Man, I would not like to be John Boehner these days
John Boehner is not acting like a confident man.
Yesterday, the House speaker made a curt, 52-second public statement regarding fiscal-cliff negotiations and then turned and left the room, unwilling to take a question.
Later in the day, the AJC’s Daniel Malloy saw Boehner in a heated discussion with a handful of Georgia Republicans on the House floor. Asked about it later, they told Malloy that Boehner was pleading with them to support his so-called Plan B, which would raise taxes only on those with annual incomes of more than $1 million. At best, they seem unconvinced.
The speaker’s proposal — floated as a way to demonstrate that House Republicans are “serious” about deficit reduction — is scheduled to be voted on today. There’s a chance that it will go down to defeat if enough of Boehner’s fellow Republicans refuse to support it on grounds that it raises taxes, if only on the top 0.19 percent of earners.
It’s also interesting to note that Pope Grover I of Norquist has issued an papal bull decreeing that Plan B is somehow NOT a tax hike, and thus will not be interpreted as violating the no-tax-hikes-ever pledge that so many Republicans have signed. That says a lot about the hypocrisy involved, and about Norquist’s continuing power over party members. They may be elected by the people of their district, but they are answerable first to Pope Grover. They have to wait for him to tell them, like some pope ruling on a theological dispute, whether they have permission to cast a vote one way or the other.
Here’s the angels-dancing-on-the-head-of-a-pin rationale released by Norquist through his front group, Americans for Tax Reform, explaining how a bill that raises taxes is not really a tax hike:
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“ATR has consistently maintained that individual members of Congress make a pledge to their constituents to oppose and vote against tax increases. The House this week will vote on a tax bill. This legislation — popularly known as “Plan B” — permanently prevents a tax increase on families making less than $1 million per year. Republicans supporting this bill are this week affirming to their constituents in writing that this bill — the sole purpose of which is to prevent tax increases — is consistent with the pledge they made to them. In ATR’s analysis, it is extremely difficult — if not impossible — to fault these Republicans’ assertion.
In particular, in this Congress the House has already voted twice to prevent any tax increases on any American. When viewed with this in mind, and considering this tax bill contains no tax increases of any kind — in fact, it permanently prevents them — matters become more clear. Having finally seen actual legislation in writing, ATR is now able to make its determination about a legislative proposal related to the fiscal cliff. ATR will not consider a vote for this measure a violation of the Taxpayer Protection Pledge.”
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The statement is a clear lie, because as even Boehner has said, Plan B does raise taxes. Also note the claim that politicians made the no-tax pledge not to Norquist, but to their constituents. Pope Grover trotted out that same logic recently in his dispute with Sen. Saxby Chambliss, claiming that “If (Chambliss) plans to vote for higher taxes to pay for Obama-sized government, he should address the people of Georgia and let them know that he plans to break his promise to them. The senator’s reference to me is odd. His promise is to the people of Georgia.”
Yet it is Norquist, not the people of Georgia, or Alabama, or North Dakota, who claims the power to define a clear tax hike as not a tax hike at all.
As a further sign of trouble, late last night Boehner and his allies tried to sweeten Plan B by adding spending cuts to the measure, including cuts that would gut ObamaCare. That may help the speaker through this most immediate crisis, but he also knows that when the time comes to recruit GOP votes for a final, negotiated package to avert the fiscal cliff, that package will not include cuts to ObamaCare.
A second GOP bill, also added to the day’s calendar to make Plan B easier to swallow, would end all defense cuts scheduled to take place under sequestration and replace them with still more cuts to social programs. That way, 100 percent of the cuts would come from entitlements and other programs, while defense spending is untouched.
The bottom line remains the same: House Republicans are badly out of step with the American people.
In another in a long string of such polls, a Washington Post/ABC News poll released this week reported that 74 percent of Americans find tax hikes on those making $250,000 or more “acceptable.” Even 51 percent of Republicans find that acceptable. And 76 percent of Americans said House Republicans are not willing to compromise enough.
Overall, just 28 percent back cuts to Medicaid, just 34 percent back reductions in future growth of Social Security benefits and only 36 percent back raising the Medicare eligibility age to 67. The area that draws the most support for cutbacks (defense, at 42 percent; 48 percent among independents) is the only area in which Republicans refuse to even consider cuts.
That does not mean that cuts should not be made, in defense as well as social programs. Our fiscal problems cannot be corrected through tax hikes alone, nor through spending cuts alone. It has to be both. And by Boehner’s own admission, President Obama has proposed some $850 billion in spending cuts (the administration says the total is closer to $1.2 trillion once you throw in lower interest payments.)
Overall, those polling numbers tell us that Boehner has very little backing among the American people for the policies that his own caucus is insisting that he pursue to the bitter end. He knows that, and he’s trying to get that point across to his caucus. But in too many cases, he is preaching practicality to people to whom appeals to practicality smack of early-onset RINOism, an often fatal disease in that group.
– Jay Bookman
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Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:57 pm
“Does that mean we can “put down” some of the regulars here on Big Daddy’s verandah? -)”
It’s something to contemplate!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 20th, 2012
4:05 pm
“The Communist Chinese government, via its state-run media front Xinhua, has called for Americans to be disarmed, arguing that the Sandy Hook school massacre demands “no delay for U.S. gun control.”
However:
““The current Chinese government, the communist People’s Republic of China, was established in a revolution led by Mao Zedong, who killed an estimated 40-70 million people with starvation, executions, and re-education camps.”
Indeed, it was Mao himself who said “political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”
Just sayin’
josef
December 20th, 2012
4:05 pm
DOGGONE
Remember our exchange on the Catahoula Hog Hound? Well, looks like the battle is beginning in earnest, now! Long story as to why and how…but it also looks like I’m losing…
RB from Gwinnett
December 20th, 2012
4:05 pm
“is that REALLY your idea of a remotely analogous situation to voters weighing in on maintaining SS, Medicare and Medicaid as viable institutions?”
Viable institutions? Is that what the poll was? Was the question “do you want SS, MC, and Mc to remain viable institutions?” And you only got 36% to say yes????
The analogy is about giving people the choice of keeping things as they are AT SOMEBODY ELSE’S EXPENSE, or making changes to them that may reduce your benefits. So if we give people a choice of getting a house AT YOUR EXPENSE, or continuing to pay for their own housing, tell me how that’s different. The deal ain’t all that funny when it’s your house we’re talking about is it?
Why don’t you tell us why you are any more entitled to keep your house in that scenario than any of these rich people you’re so giddy about fleecing are entitled to keep what they’ve worked for.
JamVet
December 20th, 2012
4:06 pm
I mean the real RUSH.
Amen, larry!
Saw them a couple of years ago, for the first time, and they were everything and more that I expected. They absolutely tore the place down.
As for that fat loudmouthed pig from the Excrement in Broadcasting network, you couldn’t pay me to listen to him!
And there’s no need to worry about the end if time stand stills…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGsQ5n9Qu0A
UNCLE SAMANTHA
December 20th, 2012
4:06 pm
liberals are so IGNORANT
that even MSNBC and CNN are having to educate them about the bad financial mess the federal government is in
how sad
http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/20/left-cant-stick-heads-in-the-sand-on-entitlement-reform/?hpt=hp_t3
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41997468/ns/politics/t/if-its-solvent-until-why-pick-social-security/
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
4:08 pm
“Remember our exchange on the Catahoula Hog Hound? Well, looks like the battle is beginning in earnest, now! Long story as to why and how…but it also looks like I’m losing”
Yeah, I remember! I don’t know a lot about them…but any breed meant to work with hogs is going to be touch. I would recommend getting Cesar Millan’s book “How to Raise the Perfect Dog” and BEFORE the dog come into your world. Study it so you’ll start our on the right foot.
Old Goober
December 20th, 2012
4:08 pm
Well, in our experience, Chows make EXCELLENT guard dogs. They’re going to sit around your house like 75-pound housecats UNTIL someone comes to the door or makes a noise outside. Then you’re going to hear about it.
Ours never got used to my dad; when he came to visit, the female would NOT let him get up from his seat unless one of us was with him. She would sit right in front of his seat, watching him, and would growl and bare her teeth if he stood up. We’d make her sit and submit to being petted by him — that would calm her down for that visit — but each time he returned, she went back to having a showdown with him.
Yup, sounds like mine. He’s all bluff when it comes to the barking and growling. But it gets to be embarrassing when a visitor comes and he acts as though his long-delayed prey has arrived. It’s hard to persuade a stranger that the 70-lb. snarling mastiff with the wrinkled head is really harmless. Still, I sleep well at night, knowing that he will raise unholy h-e double L if anybody ever tried to come into the house uninvited.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
4:09 pm
how sad
How passive/aggressive.
getalife
December 20th, 2012
4:10 pm
Take SS off the table.
Scaring Seniors is ridiculous.
They BOTH suck
December 20th, 2012
4:11 pm
Jam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R56qgreCRhQ
Regnad Kcin
December 20th, 2012
4:11 pm
“Ours never got used to my dad; when he came to visit, the female would NOT let him get up from his seat unless one of us was with him. She would sit right in front of his seat, watching him, and would growl and bare her teeth if he stood up. We’d make her sit and submit to being petted by him — that would calm her down for that visit — but each time he returned, she went back to having a showdown with him.”
Even small dogs can get protective – when Grandpa came to visit, picked up the youngest and swung her around – well, his ankle bled for two days…
They BOTH suck
December 20th, 2012
4:14 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNilsLf6eW4
TheDixieDove
December 20th, 2012
4:15 pm
Ode to Taxes on the Rich!
Raise taxes on the rich, Raise taxes on the rich,
Raise taxes on the rich right now!
It’s the only way to save us,
from the chains which they’ve enslaved us,
Raise taxes on the Rich Right Now!
http://thedixiedove.com/
josef
December 20th, 2012
4:16 pm
Regnard
So…which of the two ankle biters got him?
They BOTH suck
December 20th, 2012
4:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9×1_7MWq_8
Erwin's cat
December 20th, 2012
4:19 pm
new a gal with a Toyota and a bull mastiff, she had to remove the passenger seat to take the dog for a ride. He’d sit on the floor and barely fit. You didn’t dare get too close to the car when he was in it
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
4:20 pm
It seems that the few remaining cons posting here this afternoon still haven’t figured out that we’re not interested in what they have to say.
Y’all can just eff right off and go home early today, okay? Nobody here wants to play with you.
Erwin's cat
December 20th, 2012
4:20 pm
make that …knew a gal
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
4:21 pm
E. Cat — “new a gal with a Toyota and a bull mastiff, she had to remove the passenger seat to take the dog for a ride. He’d sit on the floor and barely fit. You didn’t dare get too close to the car when he was in it”
Burglar alarm?
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
4:22 pm
“new a gal with a Toyota and a bull mastiff, she had to remove the passenger seat to take the dog for a ride”
I was listening to Car Talk several years about and a girl with a big wolf-hybrid called for advice on what car to get that had space for him. Seems she had moved from California to Georgia, in her little pick-up truck. She had the dog in the back, and it wasn’t until she got to Alabama that she found out he apparently rode most of the trip on the ROOF of the cab!
They BOTH suck
December 20th, 2012
4:22 pm
Jam: TURN IT UP!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj1HacZ4ht4
josef
December 20th, 2012
4:25 pm
K’CHAK
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjU2WDExMTU=/$(KGrHqN,!nUE63Tf6INKBPFFD,hEVw~~60_1.jpg
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
4:25 pm
Loughner’s Judge Makes Conservative Plea For Gun Control
Larry Alan Burns, the federal district judge in San Diego who just last month sentenced Tuscon shooter Jared Lee Loughner to seven consecutive life terms plus 140 years in federal prison, is no darling of the gun control movement.
Burns is a self-described conservative, appointed to the bench by President George W. Bush, and he agrees with the Supreme Court’s decision in District of Columbia vs. Heller, which held that the 2nd Amendment gives Americans the right to own guns for self-defense. He is also a gun owner.
But while sentencing Loughner in November, Burns questioned the need for high-capacity magazines like the one Loughner had in his Glock, and said he regretted how the Federal Assault Weapons Ban was allowed to lapse in 2004. On Thursday, reacting to last week’s mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., Burns publicly called for a new assault weapons ban “with some teeth this time,” in an op-ed published by The Los Angeles Times.
You can read the whole thing here:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/12/loughner_judge_conservative_gun_control.php?ref=fpnewsfeed
JamVet
December 20th, 2012
4:25 pm
Personally, I love dogs. But Mama Kitty doesn’t so that’s the end of that conversation!
Yeah getalife, let’s let the GOP screw ups “privatize” social security, shall we?
I told the nitwits that Lyin’ Ryan was gonna cost them Florida. I also told them a year ago that whatever boob they nominated would be lucky to get 200 EC votes.
Like Ace Ventura said, “Man, am I tired of always being right!”
That the trash named West, Akin, Mourdoch, Allen and Walsh got thrown out was just bonus.
I remember when that eponymous debut album came out. It took the place by storm. Pre-Neil Peart…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h59mDlBSt7o
josef
December 20th, 2012
4:28 pm
ZamVet
Don’t trust nobody that doesn’t like animals…jus sayin…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 20th, 2012
4:31 pm
“Pelosi grilled for not pushing gun control as Speaker of House… “
JohnnyReb
December 20th, 2012
4:31 pm
Hey Moma – I’ve read several of your posts on this thread and concluded you are not stupid, just bad luck when thinking.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 20th, 2012
4:33 pm
Proverbs 12:10
“A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel.”
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
4:35 pm
J. Reb — “Hey Moma – I’ve read several of your posts on this thread and concluded you are not stupid, just bad luck when thinking.”
How interesting! I’ve concluded that you’re not thinking at all! (giggling)
Old Goober
December 20th, 2012
4:36 pm
Personally, I love dogs. But Mama Kitty doesn’t so that’s the end of that conversation!
My chow plays the role of Bookman for our four cats. He breaks up spats and chases the aggressor. But they trust him and lie right next to him. A year ago, a visitor observed the dog with the cats and stated that he had never seen anything like it.
JamVet
December 20th, 2012
4:36 pm
TBs, Anthem really does show off their staggering muscial talent, huh?
jonix, no worries, I never have. It’s a BIG red flag in my book. Some of my friends took to calling me Dr. Jewlittle (LOL!) because cats and dogs that otherwise didn’t like strangers would jump up in my lap. They know the good guys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbLVytqg_yg
josef
December 20th, 2012
4:36 pm
JHM
If you knew the Johnny Reb I admire, you wouldn’t say that…and you certainly wouldn’t be giggling. Well, on second thought, you probably would.
Bob
December 20th, 2012
4:38 pm
In all seriousness……are all you Democrats mad? There is no way we can fix this mess with revenue. There just is not enough money out there that can be grabbed. Do you really not see its spending being the problem? Really?
JamVet
December 20th, 2012
4:40 pm
My chow plays the role of Bookman for our four cats. He breaks up spats and chases the aggressor.
That’s gotta be so cool to watch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkUKiikVt30
They BOTH suck
December 20th, 2012
4:40 pm
Jam
First time I saw them I was 15. It was at the Omni
Will never forget it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17t4bSaMvl4
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
4:40 pm
O. Goober — “My chow plays the role of Bookman for our four cats. He breaks up spats and chases the aggressor. But they trust him and lie right next to him. A year ago, a visitor observed the dog with the cats and stated that he had never seen anything like it.”
That sounds wonderful.
Both our Chows died last year, and my wife’s kind of dragging her feet on adopting one or more new ones. We only have puddy tats right now, so it’s good to hear that someone else has made a go of it with Chow + cats.
I don’t think it will be a problem when we’re ready to adopt, though. Our vet knew of a Chow rescue group somewhere out west, and after he called them, they were apparently ready to put a dog on a plane THAT DAY for us. So maybe if we can’t find some local Chows to rescue when we’re ready, we might go that route.
josef
December 20th, 2012
4:40 pm
Old GOOBER
Hmmm…I’d always wondered how Big Daddy could herd cats with such, well, elan…now I know. He’s a chow…
ZamVet
Yep. They know.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
4:41 pm
josef
My favorite image of that genre
http://tinyurl.com/clk2ltq
Tells a more complete story
getalife
December 20th, 2012
4:43 pm
My dog is a rescued puppy from Katrina.
Mixed breed at 120 pounds.
His name is Monster .
Paul
December 20th, 2012
4:44 pm
josef
” All went well until a Maori exchange student quipped, “yeah, there you go. More Northern Hemisphere cultural imperialism!”
(or myopism!)
They BOTH suck
December 20th, 2012
4:45 pm
Jam
So many great ones, but these two are probably my favorites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD7zHVWNngM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=096LhjGNNCk
You won’t get wise
With the sleep still in your eyes
No matter what your dream might be
josef
December 20th, 2012
4:45 pm
K’CHAK
@ 4:41
Gotta go with you on that one!
Paul
December 20th, 2012
4:46 pm
Doggone/GA
“Seems she had moved from California to Georgia, in her little pick-up truck. She had the dog in the back, and it wasn’t until she got to Alabama that she found out he apparently rode most of the trip on the ROOF of the cab!”
Uh-oh… I’ll bet the Romney haters practiced on her -
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
4:47 pm
“Hmmm…I’d always wondered how Big Daddy could herd cats with such, well, elan…now I know. He’s a chow…”
Yeah, you might not say that if you had the experience *I’vd* had with chows and cats. I used to live in Macon and my neighbors chow was a maniacal cat killer. Killed a cat right outside my living room window, and did his damnedest to kill mine through the fence that was the cat pen.
Paul
December 20th, 2012
4:48 pm
“In all seriousness……are all you Democrats mad? There is no way we can fix this mess with revenue”
Actually, Bob, it’s only Republicans saying that. I know you’ve heard conservatives say that’s what Democrats think, but have you ever actually heard a prominent Democrat say that?
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
4:49 pm
“Mixed breed at 120 pounds”
I was watching one of those “Animal Cops” shows on Animal Planet and they rescued a litter of pups. They weighed maybe in the neighborhood of 12 -15 lbs each, and the rescuer estimated they were 3-4 months old. Got them back to the shelter and the Vet said they were SEVEN WEEKS old. I’ve often wondered how big they grew up to be!
pogo
December 20th, 2012
4:49 pm
So the official communist newspaper of the Chinese government, Xinhua, is now advising Obama on what he should do to further the communist cause. Number one, disarm your citizens. Seems they find a kindred spirit in Obama or they wouldn’t even bother with such drivel. And this coming from a political system whose iron fisted implementation killed millions of its own people in the “Cultural Revolution”. We better hope that the leaders of this country never asks its citizens to disarm or you can kiss your childrens future goodbye.
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
4:50 pm
“Uh-oh… I’ll bet the Romney haters practiced on her”
Well, there IS a difference between the dog choosing to do that…and not having a choice. But that story is one reason I wasn’t as horrified as others were about the “dog in the crate on the roof” story.
Tundra Dude
December 20th, 2012
4:50 pm
Don’t trust nobody that doesn’t like animals…jus sayin
Been out shopping….this thread is going to the dogs, looks like.
I resemble that remark.
I did pick up a stray pup in a box on the docks in Thailand, once. Got to Panama canal, the customs gestapo nabbed him, (dummy wouldn’t stop howling)
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
4:51 pm
getalife — “Mixed breed at 120 pounds. His name is Monster .”
How many mailmen do you feed him?
Skip
December 20th, 2012
4:51 pm
My Shepard/Chow died almost a year ago and you have me thinking again. Thing is I’m not sure if I want another dog or if I really just want her back.
josef
December 20th, 2012
4:51 pm
PAUL
Yeah, well, there is that myopic world view thingie…
DOGGONE
I had heard they weren’t particularly cat friendly. Chow Chow wasn’t known for that…
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
4:52 pm
Gotta step out for a bit…too lazy to cook dinner tonight. Be back later.
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
4:53 pm
Can’t leave with this one out there: Thing is I’m not sure if I want another dog or if I really just want her back.
Then don’t get one until you are SURE. That’s a heck of a burden to put on a dog, that it ISN’T your previous dog.
getalife
December 20th, 2012
4:54 pm
Doggone/GA,
Monster was 6 weeks old but could tell he would be large by looking at his paws.
He hates thunderstorms and loud noises.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
4:54 pm
But they trust him and lie right next to him.
Reminds me of a Boxer we once had. If any people were around, he and the cat next door would make viscous noises at one another, but if they didn’t see anyone looking they’d lie down side by side. First time I saw that I went outside and sure enough, the cat leapt up and started hissing and my dog jumped up barking, but not before they both had a kind of sheepish look about themselves.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
4:57 pm
So the official communist newspaper of the Chinese government, Xinhua, is now advising Obama on what he should do to further the communist cause.
Day old breitbart spam.
getalife
December 20th, 2012
4:58 pm
Joe,
We have a slot in the door for mail and when he hears that open, he attacks the door..
He is all bark and no bite.
Brought me a baby possum a couple of times but did not hurt it.
I would bring it outside and it would run away.
They BOTH suck
December 20th, 2012
5:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoXFVb1VVJA
josef
December 20th, 2012
5:00 pm
K’CHAK
@ 4:54
I’ve seen them do that, too…just goes to show you how much alike we and they are, eh?
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
5:01 pm
Doggone — “Then don’t get one until you are SURE. That’s a heck of a burden to put on a dog, that it ISN’T your previous dog.”
Totally agree, for any kind of animal. The new pet *won’t* be the same as the deceased pet, and it wouldn’t be fair to expect that of them.
Skip
December 20th, 2012
5:01 pm
Dogone, that’s why I don’t hang out at the rescue shelter, it’s a lifetime commitment. And she was 100 lbs of please don’t let the cats terrorize me. Maybe it was the Shep half in her but the cats were boss.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
5:05 pm
getlife — “Brought me a baby possum a couple of times but did not hurt it. I would bring it outside and it would run away.”
Fa la la la la
La la la la
http://cuteoverload.com/2008/12/24/possum-carolers/
josef
December 20th, 2012
5:06 pm
SKIP
Put me in the get another column…it’s the best way to get over the loss in my experience. But like the others were saying, s/he won’t replace the other one…
josef
December 20th, 2012
5:09 pm
JHM
@ 5:05
-)
getalife
December 20th, 2012
5:17 pm
Joe,
Ugly creatures but we feed him and sometimes Mom and Dad show up.
Skip
December 20th, 2012
5:19 pm
Four great dogs over the last 25 years so there was always an overlap. always a dog to tell we’re so lucky to have you when one died. The wife says “If it makes the decision any easier, the day you die I’m getting another dog. And I’m sure she will, farm raised as she is.
josef
December 20th, 2012
5:20 pm
SKIP
@ 5:19
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 20th, 2012
5:22 pm
Skip
If it makes the decision any easier, the day you die I’m getting another dog.
————————————————————————-
Is that her PET name for you
josef
December 20th, 2012
5:25 pm
getalife
We used to have a pooch named Phailledeaux…had his name on the dog house!
pogo
December 20th, 2012
5:25 pm
According to one doomsday prediction by “scientists”, one of the scenarios involves dogs being bit by foxes carrying a communicable type of cancer which will then be passed on to anyone the dog comes into contact with. My God, what’s next? Will they find that listening to the New York Dolls or The Tubes (early Tubes) caused brain damage which, after 30 years, turns its listeners into slobbering old idiots who sit around wanting some kind of stimulation? Yea, they probably will. If they do I guess the only salvation for humanity is that not that many listened to these two bands. That is good for future of humanity, but bad for the individuals who truly knew good rock and roll. Does anyone remember The Tubes playing in Atlanta? The AJC printed an article about how offensive and bizarre the band was. I was fortunate enought to have been there. Long live Quay Lude (or Fee Waybill if you will)!!! I think Justin “Beaver” is the rock and roll anti-christ and that lady ga-ga is his demonic, electronic and synthesized girl counterpart who are hell bent on making todays children into blathering pop-idiots.
getalife
December 20th, 2012
5:29 pm
josef,
Great name.
Our dogs are part of the family.
Finance guy
December 20th, 2012
5:31 pm
We have a spending problem.
pogo
December 20th, 2012
5:32 pm
It’s the end of the world as we know it, and the world feels, uh, miserable.
getalife
December 20th, 2012
5:35 pm
pogo,
NASA took video of the last meteorite that missed Earth so the world will not end.
Yet.
Skip
December 20th, 2012
5:40 pm
Mayans were Libs, and they didn’t mean everybody.
They BOTH suck
December 20th, 2012
5:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDZVLiH7Ym0
booger
December 20th, 2012
5:44 pm
It’s just as well Jay. After a lifetime of being a sideline critic from behind a keyboard, being given some responsibility might be more than you could take. Better let the grownups handle this one.
Jefferson
December 20th, 2012
5:47 pm
Raise taxes and provide services, even for the selfish GOP supporters .
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
5:53 pm
Booger — “It’s just as well Jay. After a lifetime of being a sideline critic from behind a keyboard, being given some responsibility might be more than you could take. Better let the grownups handle this one.”
Said the dude named “Booger,” who didn’t even rise to Jay’s level.
I’m out, y’all. Someone send the unibrowed trolls back to Kyle’s and get us a better class of conservative poster up in here.
Patty
December 20th, 2012
5:53 pm
Let’s hope the Mayans are correct.
Finance guy
December 20th, 2012
6:00 pm
Democrat reaction to news we have a spending problem:
Fingers in ears
Followed by:
Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
6:07 pm
DemocratRepublican reaction to news we havea spending problemany problem:Fingers in ears
Followed by:
Cuttaxescuttaxescuttaxescuttaxescuttaxescuttaxescuttaxes
Jay
December 20th, 2012
6:08 pm
Appreciate you thinking of me, Booger. The taping went great, and from what I can gather, CNN taped it today to insert into coverage in the next few days when the schedule allows.
Mama Says
December 20th, 2012
6:08 pm
Jay has discovered hypocrisy is rampant in politics !
Good job Jay next thing you know you will accuse Obama of wanting to spend more than the government has. Oh sorry, my bad guess I stepped on your tag line.
This is the product the modern media produces folks. Bias commentary on blatantly obvious issues.
Erwin's cat
December 20th, 2012
6:09 pm
Reminds me of a Boxer we once had. If any people were around, he and the cat next door would make viscous noises at one another, but if they didn’t see anyone looking they’d lie down side by side. First time I saw that I went outside and sure enough, the cat leapt up and started hissing and my dog jumped up barking, but not before they both had a kind of sheepish look about themselves.
like a farside cartoon of the cows playing poker in the pasture with the lookout cow saying “car”
Skip
December 20th, 2012
6:09 pm
Got to go but thanks guys.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
6:11 pm
like a farside cartoon of the cows playing poker in the pasture with the lookout cow saying “car”
I haven’t seen that particular cartoon, but being a big Gary Larson fan, I can imagine that.
Ol' Timer
December 20th, 2012
6:13 pm
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” ~Voltaire
When trying to understand the rationality of Grove Norquist, the words of Gertrude Stein come to mind:
“There ain’t no answer.
There ain’t gonna be an answer.
There never has been an answer.
There’s your answer.”
Erwin's cat
December 20th, 2012
6:13 pm
Jay – i’ll look for it or dvr it if you get a heads up on when, ..Maybe this time you’ll convince me
getalife
December 20th, 2012
6:18 pm
Looks like we go over the cliff then pass a tax cut.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/20/dan-burton-tax-cuts_n_2340755.html
YouLibs
December 20th, 2012
6:21 pm
Republic reaction to the news that we have a slow economy that is inching its way out of a hole problem that needs more stimulation :
We have a spending problem, we have a spending problem. Let’s start an austerity program at this precise moment so we can torpedo any hopes of the economy getting better and Obama getting credit for it.
Followed by:
Lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala
Erwin's cat
December 20th, 2012
6:24 pm
http://kansas-railroad-job-insurance.com/2011/08/17/far-side-cartoon-on-cows/
KAM – i mis-remembered a little
Mama Says
December 20th, 2012
6:27 pm
We are all crazy. We should kick all the politicians out and change the constitution to restrict the media from editorializing. They should be required to print facts which they would cite with references.
After all if its in the country’s best interest to adjust the constitution in order to limit gun usage it would have to constitutional to require truth in media
getalife
December 20th, 2012
6:28 pm
The economy is growing faster than expected.
The gop failed.
josef
December 20th, 2012
6:34 pm
D*mn, who let the dogs out?
December 20th, 2012
6:27 pm
“We are all crazy. We should kick all the politicians out and change the constitution to restrict the media from editorializing. They should be required to print facts which they would cite with references.”
Right…just as soon as we get shed of that pesky 2nd Amendment, we can take out the First..
Towncrier
December 20th, 2012
6:34 pm
From yesterday’s column on gun control:
“One of the bigger deterrents to drunk driving is the significantly increased cost of auto insurance for those convicted. Bars and liquor stores with a history of over-serving also have to worry about increased insurance costs. If you make gun owners and sellers financially liable for any damage done with their weapons, you create a market-based incentive to be responsible.
None of those steps violates the Constitution; none prevents honest citizens from obtaining firearms for personal defense, hunting and other legitimate purposes. But together, they have the potential to dramatically reduce the number of deaths caused by firearm misuse.”
It is interesting to me that hardly anyone has addressed the current “reading” of the first amendment with respect to all of these gun-enabled mass killings. I mean, there was a time when you could not grow up watching unbelievably graphic violence and sex on your television or in the movies or (now) on the Internet. Free “speech” should be just that – speech and NOT all conceivable means of expression. In my view, the way a child is reared and what he is taught has far more to do with these evil acts than the kinds of guns that are available. The first mass killing with a gun (as I recall) was in 1947 by a veteran using a pistol. He killed 9 people in all. The lesson the media and entertainment industry teaches youth is that violence is culturally acceptable. What some libertarians and liberals don’t seem to realize is that unbridled “freedom” is destructive in ways we are now seeing.
Another thing that is not really being addressed is parenting in this increasingly crazy world. There is NO guarantee that good parenting will produce nothing but good children, but I believe there is a strong correlation between the two. What I think you see in the parents of some of these killers is 1) affluence 2) permissiveness (was it Keobold’s father who didn’t think he had the right to invade the privacy of his son’s bedroom where bombs were being built?) and 3) selfishness.
This is all just a long way of saying guns are nothing but the tip of the iceberg. I think Sowell conclusively shows that there is no real correlation between the number of guns and how many killers a nation has.
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
6:35 pm
“change the constitution to restrict the media from editorializin”
Funny that it’s the Constitutionally protected freedom of speech that allows you to say you think freedom of speech should be banned for someone else.
Erwin's cat
December 20th, 2012
6:36 pm
get – The economy is growing faster than expected.
http://money.msn.com/investing/welcome-to-the-new-recession
really?