Man, I would not like to be John Boehner these days
John Boehner is not acting like a confident man.
Yesterday, the House speaker made a curt, 52-second public statement regarding fiscal-cliff negotiations and then turned and left the room, unwilling to take a question.
Later in the day, the AJC’s Daniel Malloy saw Boehner in a heated discussion with a handful of Georgia Republicans on the House floor. Asked about it later, they told Malloy that Boehner was pleading with them to support his so-called Plan B, which would raise taxes only on those with annual incomes of more than $1 million. At best, they seem unconvinced.
The speaker’s proposal — floated as a way to demonstrate that House Republicans are “serious” about deficit reduction — is scheduled to be voted on today. There’s a chance that it will go down to defeat if enough of Boehner’s fellow Republicans refuse to support it on grounds that it raises taxes, if only on the top 0.19 percent of earners.
It’s also interesting to note that Pope Grover I of Norquist has issued an papal bull decreeing that Plan B is somehow NOT a tax hike, and thus will not be interpreted as violating the no-tax-hikes-ever pledge that so many Republicans have signed. That says a lot about the hypocrisy involved, and about Norquist’s continuing power over party members. They may be elected by the people of their district, but they are answerable first to Pope Grover. They have to wait for him to tell them, like some pope ruling on a theological dispute, whether they have permission to cast a vote one way or the other.
Here’s the angels-dancing-on-the-head-of-a-pin rationale released by Norquist through his front group, Americans for Tax Reform, explaining how a bill that raises taxes is not really a tax hike:
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“ATR has consistently maintained that individual members of Congress make a pledge to their constituents to oppose and vote against tax increases. The House this week will vote on a tax bill. This legislation — popularly known as “Plan B” — permanently prevents a tax increase on families making less than $1 million per year. Republicans supporting this bill are this week affirming to their constituents in writing that this bill — the sole purpose of which is to prevent tax increases — is consistent with the pledge they made to them. In ATR’s analysis, it is extremely difficult — if not impossible — to fault these Republicans’ assertion.
In particular, in this Congress the House has already voted twice to prevent any tax increases on any American. When viewed with this in mind, and considering this tax bill contains no tax increases of any kind — in fact, it permanently prevents them — matters become more clear. Having finally seen actual legislation in writing, ATR is now able to make its determination about a legislative proposal related to the fiscal cliff. ATR will not consider a vote for this measure a violation of the Taxpayer Protection Pledge.”
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The statement is a clear lie, because as even Boehner has said, Plan B does raise taxes. Also note the claim that politicians made the no-tax pledge not to Norquist, but to their constituents. Pope Grover trotted out that same logic recently in his dispute with Sen. Saxby Chambliss, claiming that “If (Chambliss) plans to vote for higher taxes to pay for Obama-sized government, he should address the people of Georgia and let them know that he plans to break his promise to them. The senator’s reference to me is odd. His promise is to the people of Georgia.”
Yet it is Norquist, not the people of Georgia, or Alabama, or North Dakota, who claims the power to define a clear tax hike as not a tax hike at all.
As a further sign of trouble, late last night Boehner and his allies tried to sweeten Plan B by adding spending cuts to the measure, including cuts that would gut ObamaCare. That may help the speaker through this most immediate crisis, but he also knows that when the time comes to recruit GOP votes for a final, negotiated package to avert the fiscal cliff, that package will not include cuts to ObamaCare.
A second GOP bill, also added to the day’s calendar to make Plan B easier to swallow, would end all defense cuts scheduled to take place under sequestration and replace them with still more cuts to social programs. That way, 100 percent of the cuts would come from entitlements and other programs, while defense spending is untouched.
The bottom line remains the same: House Republicans are badly out of step with the American people.
In another in a long string of such polls, a Washington Post/ABC News poll released this week reported that 74 percent of Americans find tax hikes on those making $250,000 or more “acceptable.” Even 51 percent of Republicans find that acceptable. And 76 percent of Americans said House Republicans are not willing to compromise enough.
Overall, just 28 percent back cuts to Medicaid, just 34 percent back reductions in future growth of Social Security benefits and only 36 percent back raising the Medicare eligibility age to 67. The area that draws the most support for cutbacks (defense, at 42 percent; 48 percent among independents) is the only area in which Republicans refuse to even consider cuts.
That does not mean that cuts should not be made, in defense as well as social programs. Our fiscal problems cannot be corrected through tax hikes alone, nor through spending cuts alone. It has to be both. And by Boehner’s own admission, President Obama has proposed some $850 billion in spending cuts (the administration says the total is closer to $1.2 trillion once you throw in lower interest payments.)
Overall, those polling numbers tell us that Boehner has very little backing among the American people for the policies that his own caucus is insisting that he pursue to the bitter end. He knows that, and he’s trying to get that point across to his caucus. But in too many cases, he is preaching practicality to people to whom appeals to practicality smack of early-onset RINOism, an often fatal disease in that group.
– Jay Bookman
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Fred ™
December 20th, 2012
2:44 pm
Oh and don’t EVEN get me started on that racist made up wannabe holiday “kwanza.”
Regnad Kcin
December 20th, 2012
2:44 pm
“Well, they aren’t IN Israel…but even if they were, a lot of them would STILL be uncomfortable”
Maybe I dropped a stitch here – are we saying there are no Moslems in Israel?
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
2:44 pm
Doggone — “Know why? Because the “people” over there don’t blink. And a stare is highly upsetting to most dogs.”
That makes sense to me. One of our neighbors’ Halloween decorations includes a wispy, gauzy gray ghost that hangs from a tree branch — and it has battery-operated glowing red eyes. Our little lady Chow HATED it.
She didn’t care much about the other decorations in their yard, but she growled and fussed every time she met it’s ‘gaze’ during walkies.
Regnad Kcin
December 20th, 2012
2:45 pm
“Must suck to be you”
I think that every time he posts. I’d want to steam-clean the inside of my skull…
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
2:46 pm
Fred — “Enjoy the time off that our religions have afforded you by providing a holiday to the rest of you heathen a$$hats.”
“There does that cover everyone?”
I’m covered with that. “Heathen A$$hat” sounds just about right.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
2:47 pm
Judenrat?
Godwin’s Law proven yet again.
josef
December 20th, 2012
2:47 pm
GT
Again, you’re wrong. At no point did Oglethorpe’s Thieves ever constitute more than a relatively small element of the colonial population. Again, your ignorance of the history of Georgia to the fore. Second, I have not lived in the South all of my life. I suppose YOU would have a problem with Southern manners. You’d have a problem with manners no matter where fate plopped you. The more opposite to the Inuit? How many of them are you on a polite basis with? You might be surprised there, too. As for the happiest society, that would today be Costa Rica. I’ve spent quite a bit of time there. And, a strange thing, the ticos have a preference for Southerners. Why? We share a common code of public behavior and politeness.
You’re just an unhappy individual with a nasty disposition…cultural origins have little to do with that. It would all be kosher enough except for reasons known only to you, you somehow seem to think that makes you superior.
Your “whisky drinking, fat gutted, mulitmarried, dull witted, paranoid and ugly politician” is certainly not confined to one region of the Blue Planet…I’ve run into them a’plenty from every corner…
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
2:47 pm
“Maybe I dropped a stitch here – are we saying there are no Moslems in Israel?”
You dropped a stitch – go back and read the back and forth between me and Josef
Regnad Kcin
December 20th, 2012
2:48 pm
“Enjoy the time off that our religions have afforded you by providing a holiday to the rest of you heathen a$$hats.”
Will do – thanks!
Erwin's cat
December 20th, 2012
2:48 pm
R. Kcin — “How can you not respect someone in an indeterminate state?”
It’s the ultimate in flip-flopping! He can be both for and against something IN THE SAME POLL.
HA…It certainly makes it harder to commit to a position
ByteMe - Got ilk?
December 20th, 2012
2:49 pm
Enjoy the time off that our religions have afforded you by providing a holiday to the rest of you heathen a$$hats
I’m self-employed, I hate Christmas, because I always want the extra income as we get to the end of the fiscal year. That and Publix is closed.
Fred ™
December 20th, 2012
2:49 pm
massachusetts refugee
December 20th, 2012
2:38 pm
Merry Crimble, and a very gear year to all…
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Merry Crimble to you too pal, enjoy the song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4Uu0OlmTg
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
2:50 pm
“She didn’t care much about the other decorations in their yard, but she growled and fussed every time she met it’s ‘gaze’ during walkies”
Yep! I saw a VERY interesting show on experiments on dogs and how observant they are. One of the experiments involved 2 upside down containers. The person was sitting behind them. They brought a dog in, and the person looked at the dog, then at one of the containers…several times. When they released the dog it went straight to that container.
They could get CHIMPS to do that…not even if they POINTED at the container. But the dogs got it right off.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
2:51 pm
Oglethorpe’s Thieves?
They didn’t
buildsteal that.Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
2:52 pm
This just in: Renowned gunbunny and total douchenozzle Wayne LaPierre to appear on Meet The Press this Sunday.
Fred ™
December 20th, 2012
2:52 pm
Thanks. Glad I could be of help lol. I wanted to be all inclusive………
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
2:53 pm
“They could get CHIMPS to do that”
oops! “couldn’t”
josef
December 20th, 2012
2:53 pm
Byte ME
Aww…go out for Chinese and a movie! As Reb Tevye would say, “TRADITION!”
stands for decibels
December 20th, 2012
2:53 pm
Oh and don’t EVEN get me started on that racist made up wannabe holiday “kwanza.”
…the hell?
massachusetts refugee
December 20th, 2012
2:54 pm
tanks fred…
Fred ™
December 20th, 2012
2:54 pm
ByteMe – Got ilk?
December 20th, 2012
2:49 pm
Enjoy the time off that our religions have afforded you by providing a holiday to the rest of you heathen a$$hats
I’m self-employed, I hate Christmas, because I always want the extra income as we get to the end of the fiscal year. That and Publix is closed.
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There is at least ONE in every crowd……..
Fine then. No soup for you. Come back 1 year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGJku2nZaYw
Get Real
December 20th, 2012
2:54 pm
Doggone/GA
How do you figure that, deficit spending is the problem. Wake the F up!!The current ilk of Democrats do not know how to do anything other than spend. Again, if you believe otherwise you are in some parallel universe of candyland where everything is free and bills do not have to be paid
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
2:55 pm
Doggone — “Yep! I saw a VERY interesting show on experiments on dogs and how observant they are.”
We were often amazed by how quick on the uptake our Chows were. Very quiet, watchful and perceptive. If they were able to, they’d take notes.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
December 20th, 2012
2:55 pm
Aww…go out for Chinese and a movie! As Reb Tevye would say, “TRADITION!”
For years, my “tradition” was to go out to Park City for the week. “Jews on skis eating Chinese”
Couldn’t do it this year… rotator cuff surgery in August… but we’re scheduled for next year!
Morality?
December 20th, 2012
2:57 pm
And you don’t want to be the Obama that will be held in the history books as the author of the 2013 big “D”.
josef
December 20th, 2012
2:57 pm
K’CHAK, BYTE ME
I’m looking for that Judenrat one…who, where? Oy, gevalt!
F. Sinkwich
December 20th, 2012
2:57 pm
“I have always found you to be one of the more considered and reasonable conservative-leaning posters here.”
*blush*
Fred ™
December 20th, 2012
2:57 pm
Seriously Stands? You didn’t know kwanza was “created” by the black power movement on some faked “african” traditions? You really should read up on it.
What do you think Black people NOT living in the US think of it? What do you think 99.8% of Black people LIVING in the US think of it?
You should educate yourself on it’s “origins.”
Erwin's cat
December 20th, 2012
2:57 pm
Doggone..I think I saw that program..or a different one in the series…where they try to determine a dogs sense on fairness…seriously (and he didn’t pay any taxes either)
stands for decibels
December 20th, 2012
2:58 pm
If you can stomach it, MM documents the Year in Rush.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/12/20/misinformer-of-the-year-rush-limbaugh/191906
I really had lost count of how many times he’d debased himself once he started doubling down on the “she is SO a slut!”
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
2:58 pm
Kosher Night Before Christmas
http://www.jokeindex.com/joke.asp?Joke=3871
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
2:58 pm
“How do you figure that, deficit spending is the problem”
Figure what? That Congress is to blame? Maybe you should learn something about how our government works…becuase you SURE seem to have missed a BIG chunk of civics class.
stands for decibels
December 20th, 2012
2:59 pm
You didn’t know kwanza was “created” by the black power movement on some faked “african” traditions?
I’m well aware of its creation–without looking it up, I am pretty sure it was in 1967.
How is that “racist?” What the hell did it ever do to you?
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
2:59 pm
F. Sinkiewicz — “*blush*”
Not you. I’ve already given my review of your drama-queen-on-the-cross act today.
josef
December 20th, 2012
2:59 pm
BYTE ME…
I like that tradition, too! Ours is a mixed marriage…We do Christmas Eve and Christmas, and then go out for Chinese and a movie on the 26th!
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
2:59 pm
“We were often amazed by how quick on the uptake our Chows were. Very quiet, watchful and perceptive”
You ought to try owning sighthounds sometime. They put other types of dogs to shame. Mine will even watch hawks and other birds way up in the air. I never had another dog of ANY breed that even appeared to see them that far away.
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:00 pm
“where they try to determine a dogs sense on fairness”
I didn’t see that one, but I saw one like it using rats
Fred ™
December 20th, 2012
3:01 pm
1966 stands, and it is racist. What did it do to me? I don’t tolerate racism. In any form.
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:02 pm
JHM
@ 2:58
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
3:03 pm
I’m looking for that Judenrat one…who, where? Oy, gevalt!
josef
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/12/20/man-i-would-not-like-to-be-john-boehner-these-days/?cp=4#comment-1183467
Erwin's cat
December 20th, 2012
3:03 pm
I didn’t see that one, but I saw one like it using rats
same program series if not the same program. Is that where the rats had a choice between saving their buddy or unlocking the food barrel?
Fred ™
December 20th, 2012
3:03 pm
Time to finish cooking. That damn USinUK has gone incommunicado and I have to make some Naan tomorrow. Anyone here Indian and can give me some advise? I also needed a good meatball recipe. For naan I’m doing this:
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/naan/
Get Real
December 20th, 2012
3:03 pm
Doggone…nevermind, it appears you are incapable of understanding the obvious
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:03 pm
“1966 stands, and it is racist”
No, it isn’t. Just because you perceive it that way doesn’t make it so.
and it’s Kwanzaa, not Kwanza
stands for decibels
December 20th, 2012
3:04 pm
Fred, I just read the rest of your silly reply. You have some actual polling behind that “99.8% of Black people LIVING in the US” assertion, to back that up?
Mind you–I’m not real surprised to learn, at least according to The Root, that it appears to be in decline.
http://www.theroot.com/views/who-celebrates-kwanzaa-holiday-statistics
…but certainly a substantial percentage of people do pay some homage to it around this time of year.
How that’s “racist,” as you’ve slurred it, is still beyond me. If you’re going to throw an incredibly loaded term like that around, you’ve gotta defend it, Fred. And you haven’t.
Frankly, I’m starting to realize why Jay booted your trolling ass out of here before. What you’ve posted is inexcusable.
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:05 pm
“Is that where the rats had a choice between saving their buddy or unlocking the food barrel?”
that’s the one, except it wasn’t a choice “between” them…it was set up as 2 choices. They could do one, or the other, or both.
TaxPayer
December 20th, 2012
3:05 pm
You guys seriously don’t believe my point/analogy has some merit?
No.
And before you ask, at least I replied to a question.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
3:06 pm
Doggone — “You ought to try owning sighthounds sometime. They put other types of dogs to shame. Mine will even watch hawks and other birds way up in the air. I never had another dog of ANY breed that even appeared to see them that far away.”
I don’t think Chows are renowned for their sight, but our lady Chow actually pieced together that “tree kitties” (our expression for squirrels, to distinguish them from “ground kitties”) come down in the morning and go back up in the evening. She actually *begged* to go out in the morning (or to stay out) just so she could SIT and watch them come down the oaks in our yard.
And she would stay still! Once she heard them scrabbling around, she would WATCH the squirrels closely, as if she was a scientist, studying their habits, and only if one came within about 6-8 feet of her would instinct take over (and she’d get up to chase).
We’ve got a couple of hawks living somewhere near our house, but I never saw any of our dogs take notice of them.
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:08 pm
Many moons ago I was doing a year’s teaching back home in Jackson. The Season was upon us. The environment was highly diverse. The staff came up with the “novel” idea of letting the kids do THEIR thing. We were kinda pleased. Their theme was the “Season of Lights” and they highlighted the fact that these holidays revolve around the return of increasing time of daylight. All went well until a Maori exchange student quipped, “yeah, there you go. More Northern Hemisphere cultural imperialism!”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
3:08 pm
Fred
Naan on the grill
http://www.primalgrill.com/recipe_details.asp?RecipeID=120&EpisodeID=33
guy
December 20th, 2012
3:09 pm
Let’s go over that cliff! We have been printing money thinking all this would disappear anyway. Let’s roll! At least we all will be in this together.
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:10 pm
“I don’t think Chows are renowned for their sight”
Dogs have better sight than most give them credit for, but they are FAR more depended on scent than sight. Even my Whippets check each other regular by sniffing each other, even though they live together. It is scent, not sight, that confirms their identity.
But given that, sighthounds have a much quicker reaction to things they see than other breeds. It was very interesting to have a scent oriented dog (a Welsh Springer Spaniel) along with the Whippets. Took them to a lure coursing trial once and let the Welshie chase the lure to see if he would. And he did, but as soon as it got beyond where he normall saw things, he put his nose down and tried to TRACK it!
Fred ™
December 20th, 2012
3:12 pm
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:03 pm
“1966 stands, and it is racist”
No, it isn’t. Just because you perceive it that way doesn’t make it so.
and it’s Kwanzaa, not Kwanza
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Great I left an A off. Sure me. And yes it IS. It’s as racist as the former Georgia flag. I don’t care to try to convince you if you have your head so far up your ass you can’t see that. OJ was innocent, Michael Jackson WASN’T a child molester and they only went after Michael Vick because he was Black
Happy kanzaA you racist.
I
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:12 pm
K’CHAK
Missed that…was more interested in what Doggone was saying…as far as that poster is concerned, I long ago began to just skim through his/her screeds…
Thanks, though, I think…
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
3:12 pm
Doggone — “And he did, but as soon as it got beyond where he normall saw things, he put his nose down and tried to TRACK it!”
Did the lure have any kind of scent on it, or did he lose it after that?
We wanted to get our Chows involved in agility training, but the words “Chow” and “train” don’t go together so well.
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:13 pm
“I don’t care to try to convince you if you have your head so far up your ass you can’t see that”
What is it about getting insulting just because someone disagress with you? And just for you information, it MIGHT be characterized as bigotted but it’s not truly racist.
And I don’t think it’s ME that has their head so far up their ass.
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:14 pm
DOGGONE
I really do enjoy reading you on dogs…I’ve learned a lot…
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:15 pm
“Did the lure have any kind of scent on it, or did he lose it after that?”
He lost it. There’s no scent. The lure is just a whilte plastic bag.
“We wanted to get our Chows involved in agility training, but the words “Chow” and “train” don’t go together so well”
You’d be surprised. It’s all in how you approach it. It’s more a matter of finding their motivation trigger than it is what most people traditionally think of as “training”
stands for decibels
December 20th, 2012
3:16 pm
And yes it IS. It’s as racist as the former Georgia flag.
Third chance to provide actual evidence for this ridiculous assertion, and you’ve failed.
Buh bye, Fred.
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:17 pm
“I really do enjoy reading you on dogs…I’ve learned a lot…”
Thanks! And now that science is getting past that whole “animals are just instincts” baloney, we’re ALL beginning to learn a lot!
Oscar
December 20th, 2012
3:17 pm
Let’s go over that cliff!
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Even if we go past the new year to pass any bills, there will still be time to make some adjustments before the real pain hits. If nothing is done, we are probably looking at a resession starting next summer or fall.
But it would not be as severe as the last one.
Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer...and Ban the Gun Thug!
December 20th, 2012
3:18 pm
Hey y’all! Be nice…we’re all gonna die tomorrow…make points while you can…
Peadawg
December 20th, 2012
3:19 pm
“we’re all gonna die tomorrow”
I don’t think everyone is. Only the ones who argue daily about who’s side is better when BOTH sides suck donkey balls.
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:19 pm
CORBIN
Oscar
December 20th, 2012
3:21 pm
josef
December 20th, 2012
2:47 pm
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Can’t believe you read all that. I stopped reading after the part in the first line about English prisons. Would not waste my time on something so inaccurate and ignorant.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
December 20th, 2012
3:21 pm
“we’re all gonna die tomorrow”
http://weather.blogs.starnewsonline.com/11385/apocalypse-forecast/
Old Goober
December 20th, 2012
3:22 pm
We wanted to get our Chows involved in agility training, but the words “Chow” and “train” don’t go together so well.
You’re tellin’ me! Mine won’t even take a leash. If you put a leash on him and try to get him to walk with you, he’ll sit right down and won’t move unless you drag him. And if the same person comes to the door every day for two years in a row, he’ll bark as though he’s seeing the person for the first time.
larry
December 20th, 2012
3:23 pm
It is offical!! Its 12/21/2012…………
In New Zealand…………..
We’re still here!!
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:23 pm
DOGGONE
Did you catch that PBS one, “My Life as a Turkey?”
ByteMe - Got ilk?
December 20th, 2012
3:23 pm
We’re still here!!
I’m hearing warning sirens here….
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:23 pm
“You’re tellin’ me! Mine won’t even take a leash. If you put a leash on him and try to get him to walk with you, he’ll sit right down and won’t move unless you drag him”
Sound like he’s just a better trainer than you are!
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:25 pm
“Did you catch that PBS one, “My Life as a Turkey?””
At least twice. Absolulutely fascinating!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
3:25 pm
Sound like he’s just a better trainer than you are!
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:25 pm
OSCAR
Oh, I always read GT. He’s a case study in liberal bigotry! He doesn’t speak well for our people!
Ronald Reagan
December 20th, 2012
3:26 pm
Conservatives just know whats best for common folk!
larry
December 20th, 2012
3:26 pm
Or if you’re a Rush fan…………….. I mean the real RUSH……… not the goofy commentator………..
Its 12/2112
In New Zealand…………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQEgZNqa8jE
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:26 pm
DOGGONE
Watch it every chance I get. That thing about grieving over fallen trees! Amazing…
Peace
December 20th, 2012
3:27 pm
Let’s go over the cliff, holding hands if you want. That is the only way that Americans will realize our plight. Better to take the plunge at $16.5 trillion than wait until it’s $20-30 trillion. Let’s do it.
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:29 pm
Josef – yep, amazing. I used to have a Dalmatian that had some mental problems…and she got where we couldn’t move anything in the house. Anything “out of place” caused to severe distress.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
3:29 pm
SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS!
Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer...and Ban the Gun Thug!
December 20th, 2012
3:29 pm
ByteMe – Got ilk?
December 20th, 2012
3:21 pm
Peadawg
December 20th, 2012
3:32 pm
KAMSPAM!
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:34 pm
Byte Me
Well, the opera ain’t over til the fat lady sings….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSk2ccnVOao
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 20th, 2012
3:36 pm
PEAPUPPY!
Regnad Kcin
December 20th, 2012
3:37 pm
“I used to have a Dalmatian that had some mental problems”
In my experience, dalmatians can be quite “high-strung”…
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:39 pm
BTW
Jokes aside…in that 3:34, it would behoove us all to listen to the message at the end…scroll ahead to
6 45…
Peadawg
December 20th, 2012
3:40 pm
Aaaaaaaaand there’s the relapse. Bless your heart Kam.
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:40 pm
“In my experience, dalmatians can be quite “high-strung”…”
What they are is energetic. Their “job” was to follow along with coaches and that meant miles and miles of traveling. That takes a lot of energy and stamina. Plus, they are self-motivated workers, which means they aren’t bred to be depending on people to tell them what to do (think Border Collies here) – and that can make them a challenge to train. It’s just not in their nature to think YOUR opinion is more importan than their own.
But gven all that, the one I had was just plain nuts. And she got so bad, we finally put her down because her life was a misery and no hope of it getting better as she got older.
Regnad Kcin
December 20th, 2012
3:41 pm
” her life was a misery and no hope of it getting better as she got older.”
It can be so hard to do the right thing – you have my sympathy.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
3:42 pm
O. Goober — “You’re tellin’ me! Mine won’t even take a leash. If you put a leash on him and try to get him to walk with you, he’ll sit right down and won’t move unless you drag him. And if the same person comes to the door every day for two years in a row, he’ll bark as though he’s seeing the person for the first time.”
Well, in our experience, Chows make EXCELLENT guard dogs. They’re going to sit around your house like 75-pound housecats UNTIL someone comes to the door or makes a noise outside. Then you’re going to hear about it.
Ours never got used to my dad; when he came to visit, the female would NOT let him get up from his seat unless one of us was with him. She would sit right in front of his seat, watching him, and would growl and bare her teeth if he stood up. We’d make her sit and submit to being petted by him — that would calm her down for that visit — but each time he returned, she went back to having a showdown with him.
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:47 pm
“It can be so hard to do the right thing – you have my sympathy”
thanks. It was hard, but she got where she would absolutely PANIC if she saw anyone she didn’t know…even if they were 2 blocks away. That’s no way to live.
Reality
December 20th, 2012
3:48 pm
How can anyone, and I mean ANYONE, and an ounce of sense cannot clearly see that the republicans ONLY care about the most wealthy?
Look at what Boehner is fighting for – the people making over $250,000. Is he fighting for the middle class? No.
Is he fighting for the retired people? No. In fact, he wants to take from them by cutting social security and medicare. To give to whom? The most wealthy!
If there is ANYONE with any doubt what-so-ever what today’s republican politicans care about, just look at what they are fighting for!
larry
December 20th, 2012
3:49 pm
And this discussion has gone to the dogs.
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:49 pm
Speaking of chows…I’ve told this one before, but…
In my hometown, our town stray was a chow. Nobody knew who it may have belonged to or where he came from, but everybody fed him as he was the “guardian” of the kids. He would get between the kid he felt was being threatened and whoever or whatever he had determined to be that threat. He made it quite clear he’d go down fighting to protect his charge. Let a parent come out even to to bring Johnny or Janie “into line” if Chow Chow (our name for him) didn’t agree, there he’d be…
And funny thing,,,if he decided that the parent was right and that no excess harm would befall the child, he’d move over to the side, keeping an eye out. If the parent went further than Chow Chow though necessary, he’d “get in the middle of it.”
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:50 pm
“And this discussion has gone to the dogs”
Beats fighting like cats and dogs…don’t you think?
UNCLE SAMANTHA
December 20th, 2012
3:50 pm
LIBERALS ARE DELUSIONAL
they need to read what Erskine Bowles is warning about with regards to SS let alone Medicare.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41997468/ns/politics/t/if-its-solvent-until-why-pick-social-security/
Erwin's cat
December 20th, 2012
3:52 pm
Don’t chows have a reputation for biting? like in the top five of biting dogs?
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:52 pm
Josef – a good chow is a good dog. Part of the problem with them is that to some extent they’re like bears, they have inexpressive faces…so people misread them quite often. And that can get you bitten. I knew someone years ago that showed chows and she had one very nice male, but she said when she went in the ring if he wasn’t wagging his tail she might as well leave…because sooner or later he was going to try to take a piece out of the judge. And that is NOT a good thing at a dog show!
josef
December 20th, 2012
3:53 pm
DOGGONE
“thanks. It was hard, but she got where she would absolutely PANIC if she saw anyone she didn’t know…even if they were 2 blocks away. That’s no way to live.”
Does that mean we can “put down” some of the regulars here on Big Daddy’s verandah? -)
Doggone/GA
December 20th, 2012
3:56 pm
“Don’t chows have a reputation for biting? like in the top five of biting dogs”
“Top biters” can vary, depending on what list and where you are, but these are the ones most likely to giver your insurance company fits:
1.Pit Bulls & Staffordshire Terriers
2.Doberman Pinschers
3.Rottweilers
4.German Shepherds
5.Chows
6.Great Danes
7.Presa Canarios
8.Akitas
9.Alaskan Malamutes
10.Siberian Huskies
11.Wolf-hybrids