Man, I would not like to be John Boehner these days

John Boehner is not acting like a confident man.

Yesterday, the House speaker made a curt, 52-second public statement regarding fiscal-cliff negotiations and then turned and left the room, unwilling to take a question.

Later in the day, the AJC’s Daniel Malloy saw Boehner in a heated discussion with a handful of Georgia Republicans on the House floor. Asked about it later, they told Malloy that Boehner was pleading with them to support his so-called Plan B, which would raise taxes only on those with annual incomes of more than $1 million. At best, they seem unconvinced.

The speaker’s proposal — floated as a way to demonstrate that House Republicans are “serious” about deficit reduction — is scheduled to be voted on today. There’s a chance that it will go down to defeat if enough of Boehner’s fellow Republicans refuse to support it on grounds that it raises taxes, if only on the top 0.19 percent of earners.

It’s also interesting to note that Pope Grover I of Norquist has issued an papal bull decreeing that Plan B is somehow NOT a tax hike, and thus will not be interpreted as violating the no-tax-hikes-ever pledge that so many Republicans have signed. That says a lot about the hypocrisy involved, and about Norquist’s continuing power over party members. They may be elected by the people of their district, but they are answerable first to Pope Grover. They have to wait for him to tell them, like some pope ruling on a theological dispute, whether they have permission to cast a vote one way or the other.

Here’s the angels-dancing-on-the-head-of-a-pin rationale released by Norquist through his front group, Americans for Tax Reform, explaining how a bill that raises taxes is not really a tax hike:

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“ATR has consistently maintained that individual members of Congress make a pledge to their constituents to oppose and vote against tax increases. The House this week will vote on a tax bill. This legislation — popularly known as “Plan B” — permanently prevents a tax increase on families making less than $1 million per year. Republicans supporting this bill are this week affirming to their constituents in writing that this bill — the sole purpose of which is to prevent tax increases — is consistent with the pledge they made to them. In ATR’s analysis, it is extremely difficult — if not impossible — to fault these Republicans’ assertion.

In particular, in this Congress the House has already voted twice to prevent any tax increases on any American. When viewed with this in mind, and considering this tax bill contains no tax increases of any kind — in fact, it permanently prevents them — matters become more clear. Having finally seen actual legislation in writing, ATR is now able to make its determination about a legislative proposal related to the fiscal cliff. ATR will not consider a vote for this measure a violation of the Taxpayer Protection Pledge.”

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The statement is a clear lie, because as even Boehner has said, Plan B does raise taxes. Also note the claim that politicians made the no-tax pledge not to Norquist, but to their constituents. Pope Grover trotted out that same logic recently in his dispute with Sen. Saxby Chambliss, claiming that “If (Chambliss) plans to vote for higher taxes to pay for Obama-sized government, he should address the people of Georgia and let them know that he plans to break his promise to them. The senator’s reference to me is odd. His promise is to the people of Georgia.”

Yet it is Norquist, not the people of Georgia, or Alabama, or North Dakota, who claims the power to define a clear tax hike as not a tax hike at all.

As a further sign of trouble, late last night Boehner and his allies tried to sweeten Plan B by adding spending cuts to the measure, including cuts that would gut ObamaCare. That may help the speaker through this most immediate crisis, but he also knows that when the time comes to recruit GOP votes for a final, negotiated package to avert the fiscal cliff, that package will not include cuts to ObamaCare.

A second GOP bill, also added to the day’s calendar to make Plan B easier to swallow, would end all defense cuts scheduled to take place under sequestration and replace them with still more cuts to social programs. That way, 100 percent of the cuts would come from entitlements and other programs, while defense spending is untouched.

The bottom line remains the same: House Republicans are badly out of step with the American people.

In another in a long string of such polls, a Washington Post/ABC News poll released this week reported that 74 percent of Americans find tax hikes on those making $250,000 or more “acceptable.” Even 51 percent of Republicans find that acceptable. And 76 percent of Americans said House Republicans are not willing to compromise enough.

Overall, just 28 percent back cuts to Medicaid, just 34 percent back reductions in future growth of Social Security benefits and only 36 percent back raising the Medicare eligibility age to 67. The area that draws the most support for cutbacks (defense, at 42 percent; 48 percent among independents) is the only area in which Republicans refuse to even consider cuts.

That does not mean that cuts should not be made, in defense as well as social programs. Our fiscal problems cannot be corrected through tax hikes alone, nor through spending cuts alone. It has to be both. And by Boehner’s own admission, President Obama has proposed some $850 billion in spending cuts (the administration says the total is closer to $1.2 trillion once you throw in lower interest payments.)

Overall, those polling numbers tell us that Boehner has very little backing among the American people for the policies that his own caucus is insisting that he pursue to the bitter end. He knows that, and he’s trying to get that point across to his caucus. But in too many cases, he is preaching practicality to people to whom appeals to practicality smack of early-onset RINOism, an often fatal disease in that group.

– Jay Bookman

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Peadawg

December 20th, 2012
1:55 pm

All of you crazy liberals are so cute with your holidays and xmas’s.

getalife

December 20th, 2012
1:56 pm

“free stuff”

Stay the course.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 20th, 2012
1:56 pm

B. Frog — “I prefer happy holidays because it covers all celebrations and not
just christmas.”

Agreed. You can’t know what holiday someone observes this time of year just by looking at them.

Besides, isn’t it still Hanukkah right now? So Happy Hanukkah, ya, jebus-lovers.

Regnad Kcin

December 20th, 2012
1:56 pm

“So have a merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Kwazy Kwanzaa, a tip-top Tet, and a solemn, dignified Ramadan.” – Krusty the Klown

Peadawg

December 20th, 2012
1:57 pm

Political Correctness at its best @ 1:56. So afraid to offend somebody….

Oscar

December 20th, 2012
1:57 pm

And a Happy New Year.

barking frog

December 20th, 2012
1:58 pm

Doggone/GA
Thanks for explaining. just not used to you using sarcasm. Glad
you are though..

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 20th, 2012
1:58 pm

Well, to be precise, they were outvoted by the ones who want free stuff.

I love how Whiner gets “precise” by lying.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 20th, 2012
1:58 pm

Peadawg — “All of you crazy liberals are so cute with your holidays and xmas’s.”

All of you insecure christians are no less cute with your indigant insistence on CHRISTmas. :D

I’ll call out JESUS CHRIST the next time I accidentally hit my thumb with a hammer. Not before.

Regnad Kcin

December 20th, 2012
1:58 pm

“Well, to be precise, they were outvoted by the ones who want free stuff”

Mr. Sinkwich – I voted for him because I believe we need higher taxes (on me, included).

Repeating a lie does not make it so.

Con...fidence?

December 20th, 2012
1:59 pm

@Chris Matthews

December 20th, 2012
1:03 pm
Man, I would not like to be Obama! He will have 8 years of the worst economy and go down as the worst Prresident in American History!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I BET YOU $10,000 that Obama will be the BEST President

in American History.

I BET YOU $10,000 that YOU VOTED FOR ROMNEY.

How did that work out for YA?

heeheeheeheeheehee :)

Erwin's cat

December 20th, 2012
1:59 pm

The infrastructure is exactly what Obama was talking about,

yes, he mentioned roads etc etc…I guess, I’m not arguing what he said, I just don’t agree with what he said it in principle…it’s a silly argument..If a company fails, do we then blame the infrastructure? Since we are crediting it for the success?

Granny Godzilla

December 20th, 2012
1:59 pm

Free Stuff

tee hee hee

Peadawg

December 20th, 2012
2:01 pm

Joe Hussein Mama
December 20th, 2012
1:58 pm

Oh geeze Joe’s getting started. Next will be the :lol: and the (pointing laughing).

Oscar

December 20th, 2012
2:01 pm

We had to destroy the town in order to save it.
Army Officer in Viet Nam.

We have to destroy the budget and rebuild it.
Thomas Jefferson

Granny Godzilla

December 20th, 2012
2:01 pm

Peadawg

Happy Ramadan to you!

Peadawg

December 20th, 2012
2:02 pm

“Well, to be precise, they were outvoted by the ones who want free stuff”

I voted for him b/c I never once knew what exactly Mitt stood for.

Devil ya know vs. the Devil ya don’t know

Oscar

December 20th, 2012
2:02 pm

And many happy returns of the day.

Erwin's cat

December 20th, 2012
2:02 pm

but you DO owe your continued existence to it. It would be a tad hard to have telephone solicitaion company without the telephon infrastructure to suppor it.

no doubt, I can’t be successful without it, but i’m not successful because of it

Peadawg

December 20th, 2012
2:02 pm

Bless your heart Granny.

getalife

December 20th, 2012
2:03 pm

cnn bumped Jay because he is a lib.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 20th, 2012
2:06 pm

I guess, I’m not arguing what he said, I just don’t agree with what he said it in principle

And I get that, although I don’t agree with you.

But that is not the point.

Every time the “you didn’t build that” card is played, the claim is that some business owner didn’t build his business. The infrastructure isn’t brought up at all.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 20th, 2012
2:06 pm

Peadawg — “Oh geeze Joe’s getting started. Next will be the and the (pointing laughing).”

Dude, whatever holiday you observe at this time of the year, enjoy it! Don’t worry about what other people are doing or not doing, saying or not saying. S’all I’m saying.

Extend to others the same courtesy that you would like extended to you. I think you will find that people who don’t share your faith will appreciate the inclusive gesture. I know that I think better of people who express a wish for ‘happy holidays’ as opposed to those who demand that everyone say ‘merry christmas.’

That said, I don’t think you’re doing that, but I do think you could stand to loosen up a bit about the holiday. :)

stands for decibels

December 20th, 2012
2:07 pm

I always thought it was kind of weird to wish people a Merry Christmas on any day that wasn’t Christmas, actually–unless I knew I wasn’t going to see that person until after Christmas.

(And then only if I knew that person actually celebrated Christmas with family/friends.)

Maybe I sound faux-naive, but I really don’t get why this dumb “say CHRISTmas NOW and REPEATEDLY or DIE, INFIDEL” business ever got any traction whatsoever.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 20th, 2012
2:08 pm

no doubt, I can’t be successful without it, but i’m not successful because of it

No one is saying that the infrastructure is the ONLY reason you are successful.

barking frog

December 20th, 2012
2:08 pm

Erwin’s cat
no doubt, I can’t be successful without it, but i’m not successful because of it
…………………………………………………………………………………….
your success will depend on your ability to think outside the box….

Regnad Kcin

December 20th, 2012
2:08 pm

Peadog – it’s no sin to go out of one’s way to be polite to people (at least in MY religion).

Erwin's cat

December 20th, 2012
2:08 pm

cnn bumped Jay because he is a lib.

or it’s just not a compelling model

Partisay

December 20th, 2012
2:09 pm

“Well, to be precise, they were outvoted by the ones who want free stuff.

Just keep believing that. There’s a reason your side has lost 5 of the last 6 popular votes for president. And I see you follow Rush’s talking points well…..

josef

December 20th, 2012
2:09 pm

Happy birthday, Baby Jesus…and thank you for the two weeks off!

Looks like our Fearless Leader got preempted by Biden. Tant pis. I like Jay. I don’t like Biden.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 20th, 2012
2:09 pm

GG — “Peadawg Happy Ramadan to you!”

Aw, GG, you’re WAY off. Ramadan’s in the summer right now. It won’t come back around to this time of year until like 2030 or so, IIRC.

Peadawg

December 20th, 2012
2:10 pm

“Extend to others the same courtesy that you would like extended to you. ”

You have the saying wrong. It’s “Do unto to others BEFORE they do it to you.”

Regnad Kcin

December 20th, 2012
2:12 pm

“Maybe I sound faux-naive, but I really don’t get why this dumb “say CHRISTmas NOW and REPEATEDLY or DIE, INFIDEL” business ever got any traction whatsoever.”

Don’t watch FOX or listen to Rush, huh?

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:12 pm

“Since we are crediting it for the success?”

Except no one has done that. The infrastructure helps a businees to DO business, it is the customers who get the credit for success.

getalife

December 20th, 2012
2:14 pm

cat,

Yeah they are running a piece on government buying guns to boost the economy.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 20th, 2012
2:14 pm

Peadawg — “You have the saying wrong. It’s “Do unto to others BEFORE they do it to you.”

Actually, I think the saying you’re looking for is ‘Do Unto Others, Then Split.’

Or something. :)

Regnad Kcin

December 20th, 2012
2:14 pm

“The infrastructure helps a businees to DO business, it is the customers who get the credit for success.”

Truedat. No customer, no success.

josef

December 20th, 2012
2:14 pm

If you’re going to get into a snit by however somebody phrases their Season’s Greetings…f-you and have a miserable time! :-)

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:14 pm

“no doubt, I can’t be successful without it, but i’m not successful because of it”

but it’s lack could cause you to be UNsuccessful. So, yes, if you have a successful business you are successful because you can efficiently serve your customers across the existing infrastructure.

indigo

December 20th, 2012
2:15 pm

barkin frog – 2:08

Erwin will have to get his homeschool high school diploma before thinking about any future success. Since his abilities here seem to be limited to one liners, I’d say that graduation is a long way off.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 20th, 2012
2:15 pm

R. Kcin — “Don’t watch FOX or listen to Rush, huh?”

I seem to recall Bill O’Reilly raging about it a couple of years ago — then it came out that his ’store’ on the Fox website had a big, fat HAPPY HOLIDAYS banner at the top of it. :D

Erwin's cat

December 20th, 2012
2:15 pm

No one is saying that the infrastructure is the ONLY reason you are successful.

some have in certain context…not you and that’s what I mean by overplayed. If there were no infrastructure or an adequate amount, I would not or could not start the biz. Does FedEx credit Hartsfield – Jackson for it’s success? the infrastructure is a tool like a shovel. how can I credit the shovel for digging a hole, when it did so poorly at digging that hole on its own.

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:16 pm

“always thought it was kind of weird to wish people a Merry Christmas on any day that wasn’t Christmas, actually–unless I knew I wasn’t going to see that person until after Christmas”

I agree…and if I know I won’t see them on the day, I usually say “HAVE a Merry Christmas” – but generally, if they say Merry Christmas to me, I say it back.

getalife

December 20th, 2012
2:16 pm

Biden led on the last ban on assault rifles.

Plan B is dead in the Senate.

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

December 20th, 2012
2:16 pm

Boner the water carrying tool …

Erwin's cat

December 20th, 2012
2:17 pm

Erwin will have to get his homeschool high school diploma before thinking about any future success. Since his abilities here seem to be limited to one liners, I’d say that graduation is a long way off

I seriously doubt you want to compare pedigree with me indigo

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

December 20th, 2012
2:17 pm

Boner the face of the useless GOP tards.

Oscar

December 20th, 2012
2:18 pm

The best thing to do would be for congress to go home for the holidays, and then come back next year and then see what can be worked out.

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:18 pm

“Truedat. No customer, no success”

And yet…you should have been here when I posted something like that, and got told I don’t know anything about running a business! And that from someone who fancied himself an expert.

Brosephus™

December 20th, 2012
2:18 pm

it’s a silly argument..If a company fails, do we then blame the infrastructure? Since we are crediting it for the success?

About a month or so, there were a few businesses downtown who were losing lots of business because of a bridge closure due to inspections to determine if it needed to be shut down. I’d ask them how that infrastructure impacts their business. You’re likely to find that infrastructure does play a part in the success and/or failure of a business.

getalife

December 20th, 2012
2:20 pm

Oscar,

To save money, they should stay home for two years without pay or benefits instead of cutting SS.

Granny Godzilla

December 20th, 2012
2:20 pm

JHM

Imagine me being politically incorrect?

I shiver in my house shoes at the thought.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 20th, 2012
2:20 pm

E. Cat — “I seriously doubt you want to compare pedigree with me indigo”

Indeed.

We don’t agree on a lot of things, but I have always found you to be one of the more considered and reasonable conservative-leaning posters here. What someone might call one-liners from you might more accurately be termed brevity and conciseness.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 20th, 2012
2:21 pm

Happy Llamapocalypse Eve!

Erwin's cat

December 20th, 2012
2:21 pm

like I said infrastructure is a tool. How I use the tool determines my success. yes someone had to build that tool but that’s where the credit stops

Welcome to the Occupation

December 20th, 2012
2:21 pm

Granny Godzilla: “free stuff”

When my dog chews the head off a stuffed toy and the stuffing comes out all over the place, it reminds me of this forum.

“Free stuff” is to our con friends here what that cottony stuffing is in the heads of those stuffed animals, so much stuffing for an empty head, lacking in real content.

Oscar

December 20th, 2012
2:22 pm

If the Eric Canal had not been built, New York City would just be a little town on the Hudson.
Without the Interstate Highway System, we would not be the world leader we are now.
Without the railroads, we would all still be farmers.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

December 20th, 2012
2:22 pm

Incoming state Rep. Kyle Kacal, R-Texas:

“I’ve heard of people being killed playing ping-pong — ping-pongs are more dangerous than guns,” he added. “Flat-screen TVs are injuring more kids today than anything.”

Get Real

December 20th, 2012
2:22 pm

So Jay, are you saying that there ARE days you would like to be John Boehner?

All the talk about tax increases gets us no where with respect to the reduction in debt. Simpson-Bowles recommended a 3 to 1 ration of spending cuts to tax increases and Obama and the Democrats cannot even come to the table with 1 to 1; by the end of his 2nd term this country will be 22 trillion plus in debt….talk about going over the fiscal cliff…

Oscar

December 20th, 2012
2:23 pm

How I use the tool determines my success
______

That’s what my dad told me when we had the talk. And my wife still reminds me.

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:23 pm

“Flat-screen TVs are injuring more kids today than anything.”

Ban glat screen TV’s NOW! (Won’t bother me, I don’t own one)

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 20th, 2012
2:24 pm

“Free stuff” is to our con friends here what that cottony stuffing is in the heads of those stuffed animals, so much stuffing for an empty head, lacking in real content.

I wish my dog would stop that….

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:24 pm

“by the end of his 2nd term this country will be 22 trillion plus in debt….talk about going over the fiscal cliff”

And we have Congress to “thank” for that.

Regnad Kcin

December 20th, 2012
2:25 pm

“And that from someone who fancied himself an expert.”

On this blog, you’re not narrowing it down, much. :D

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 20th, 2012
2:25 pm

Incoming state Rep. Kyle Kacal, R-Texas:

He feels a “forceable rape” quote coming on….

Joe Hussein Mama

December 20th, 2012
2:25 pm

GG — “Imagine me being politically incorrect? I shiver in my house shoes at the thought.”

Somehow, I doubt you will incur a fatwa for it. :)

The way it was explained to me is that Ramadan’s tied to a moon calendar that — from a Western perspective — *slowly* backs up throughout the year, so each Western year, the holiday comes a little earlier than the year before. From what I was told, it’s roughly 10 days earlier each year.

I seem to recall that Ramadan came during the springtime back during Desert Storm. And I believe it also came this past August. So I guess it does kind of move about like that.

stands for decibels

December 20th, 2012
2:25 pm

I have always found you to be one of the more considered and reasonable conservative-leaning posters here.

me three.

Welcome to the Occupation

December 20th, 2012
2:27 pm

Erwin’s cat: “like I said infrastructure is a tool. How I use the tool determines my success”

No, that’s wrong.

WHOSE capital built the roads? THAT’s the question.

Who built the US highway system?

If there is no functioning government, no functioning state, to build your roads, your chances of having “success” — in a broad range of industries — is greatly constrained, regardless of your will, your skill, and determination, etc. as a Ayn Randian self-made man.

That’s why Ayn Rand is bullsh$t, among other reasons.

Regnad Kcin

December 20th, 2012
2:27 pm

“like I said infrastructure is a tool. How I use the tool determines my success. yes someone had to build that tool but that’s where the credit stops”

True – but somebody gave you the tool. How successful would you have been without it?

Neither argument, by itself, is that satisfying.

Oscar

December 20th, 2012
2:28 pm

Have a Jolly Festivus.

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:28 pm

“On this blog, you’re not narrowing it down, much.”

Well, that “expert” doesn’t post here anymore.

getalife

December 20th, 2012
2:28 pm

Erwin’s cat is a con kook but the cat is a lib.

josef

December 20th, 2012
2:30 pm

And another thing, I wish some folks who wish me a Merry Christmas would quit that thing of,
oh, I’m sorry. Happy Holidays.” Jeeeze, does it matter? Are you trying to tell me I’m not invited to Baby Jesus’ birthday party…maybe not, but it sure makes me wonder…

Regnad Kcin

December 20th, 2012
2:30 pm

“I have always found you to be one of the more considered and reasonable conservative-leaning posters here”

How can you not respect someone in an indeterminate state? :)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 20th, 2012
2:31 pm

some have in certain context…

I think the problem here is what you infer, as everyone talking about this here and now has already acknowledged infrastructure as only one part of a successful business (other things needed are customers and by extension, demand.)

the infrastructure is a tool like a shovel. how can I credit the shovel for digging a hole, when it did so poorly at digging that hole on its own.

If all you want is a hole in the ground then you and the shovel get the credit.

What if you wanna lay cable or pipe?

Did you manufacture that cable/pipe or is it your intent to hook up to a sewer line/water line/existing underground electric/ cable service?

Did you build that?

Do you need a hole in the ground for agricultural purposes?

Did you make the seeds?

Erwin's cat

December 20th, 2012
2:32 pm

I guess in my field i take offense to the “you didn’t build that” as an inventor, it’s like saying “i didn’t invent that” when the patent office says otherwise…
solidworks gets nothing, not even an honorable mention… even though I used solidworks to create the design/invention
You guys seriously don’t believe my point/analogy has some merit?

BTW thanks JHM…I don’t think I’ll be sharing risotto recipes with indigo

Joe Hussein Mama

December 20th, 2012
2:32 pm

R. Kcin — “How can you not respect someone in an indeterminate state?”

It’s the ultimate in flip-flopping! He can be both for and against something IN THE SAME POLL. :D

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:32 pm

“And another thing, I wish some folks who wish me a Merry Christmas would quit that thing of,
oh, I’m sorry. Happy Holidays”

I think you could be generous and give them a pass on that one. They’re just uncomfortable saying Merry Christmas when they know THEY would be uncomfortable if people started wishing THEM a Happy Hanukkah all the time.

getalife

December 20th, 2012
2:32 pm

Happy Baby Jesus Birthday.

josef

December 20th, 2012
2:32 pm

A sidebar…have you ever looked at the map and plotted the northern ranges of Islam? It seems that once you start getting into the realms of the lands of the midnight sun, Islam fades. Why? Ramadan often falls in the summertime…

Acer706

December 20th, 2012
2:33 pm

This is Obama’s problem. Why is the spotlight on Boehner to come up with a solution to it?

Erwin's cat

December 20th, 2012
2:34 pm

What if you wanna lay cable or pipe?

Isn’t that what the kids used to call it? :D

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:34 pm

“A sidebar…have you ever looked at the map and plotted the northern ranges of Islam? It seems that once you start getting into the realms of the lands of the midnight sun, Islam fades”

Desert dwellers don’t like it where it’s that cold? ;-)

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 20th, 2012
2:35 pm

Are you trying to tell me I’m not invited to Baby Jesus’ birthday party…maybe not, but it sure makes me wonder…

There’s a nativity “scene” made of plastic miniature people and animals across the street from my home. My dog is severely distrustful of it for some reason.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 20th, 2012
2:35 pm

This is Obama’s problem.

There’s your sign.

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:35 pm

“This is Obama’s problem”

Nope, it isn’t. All Obama has to do is sit tight and he’ll get the taxe increase he wants. Boehner, on the other hand, will have a bunch of angry millionaires on his hands.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 20th, 2012
2:36 pm

This is Obama’s problem. Why is the spotlight on Boehner to come up with a solution to it?

Because it’s Boehner’s problem. Obama has approval rating and polls on his side. Boehner, not so much.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 20th, 2012
2:36 pm

E. Cat — “BTW thanks JHM…I don’t think I’ll be sharing risotto recipes with indigo”

My wife’s got a great one that involves about five or six different kinds of dried, minced mushrooms. She rehydrates the mushrooms and reserves the broth, then cooks the risotto and mushrooms with it. If she’s feeling industrious, she’ll venture to Whole Foods and get a variety of fresh mushrooms instead, but that complicates the broth somewhat.

The finished product is great alongside slow-roasted pork or grilled sausages in the fall or winter.

Regnad Kcin

December 20th, 2012
2:36 pm

“You guys seriously don’t believe my point/analogy has some merit?”

Speaking only for myself, I guess it never occurred to me that you WOULDN’T get the credit – and that the “infrastructure is necessary” addendum was a thought-provoking argument for the necessity of government/taxes. I didn’t take it as a slam against business owners, and honestly have trouble seeing that interpretation.

That being said, perhaps you don’t see it that way.

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:36 pm

“My dog is severely distrustful of it for some reason.”

Know why? Because the “people” over there don’t blink. And a stare is highly upsetting to most dogs.

getalife

December 20th, 2012
2:37 pm

Just watched the basketball coach of Ohio State pass the moral test.

Asking our leaders to step up and change for the children.

josef

December 20th, 2012
2:37 pm

DOGGONE

Why, though? If they were in Israel, they’d be getting a Happy Hannukah…Jewish Christmas, doncha know! :-)

GT

December 20th, 2012
2:37 pm

Josef the Georgia you paint is still one started by English prisoners, broad bush or thin dropping the DNA molecularly is the same.

You can beauty well see the obliqueness of the thinking in the south, living here all your life. The artificial politeness accompanied by most hate based, insecure, dull minded and duplicitous human being on earth. It was once noted that the Eskimo is the happiest race on earth, and could you find a more foil opposite of the Eskimo than the Southerner? And if we have a weak moment of happiness I can assure you some whisky drinking, fat gutted, mulitmarried, dull witted, paranoid and ugly politician will snuff it out of our world before it can takes root.

massachusetts refugee

December 20th, 2012
2:38 pm

Merry Crimble, and a very gear year to all…

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 20th, 2012
2:39 pm

Because the “people” over there don’t blink. And a stare is highly upsetting to most dogs.

He severely distrusts the plastic cows most, although the “people” warranted a low growl.

And why don’t HOA covenants that restrict you keeping your kids’ toys in the front yard exclude nativity scenes? I’m more annoyed by those than I am by someone leaving their kids’ plastic toys outside for the neighborhood to play with.

Peter

December 20th, 2012
2:40 pm

Well as the Republican’s LIE who ants to be them ?

Republican lies……….. we are for small government…. deficits don’t matter.

weetamoe

December 20th, 2012
2:41 pm

Remember when some news show person moderating a republican primary debate asked all candidates to raise their hands if they would agree to a $1.00 tax increase if it were accompanied by a $10.00 reduction in spending? A hypothetical question by a person who had no authority to offer or follow through on such an arrangement, yet the candidates were harshly criticized (even in these pages) because every one of them was too smart to play the game. Remember when Pelosi complained that republicans were not even willing to accept a rate increase on those earning over a million? When republicans agreed to accept that arrangement, she and her house cronies snickered that it had been only a ploy. It is obvious that he who *won* is waging a scorched earth campaign against conservatives and people like me are considered enemies of the state. The toadies who play the role of Judenrat obviously are enjoying the chance to humiliate the opposition, but history suggests their fun will not last.

Doggone/GA

December 20th, 2012
2:41 pm

“Why, though? If they were in Israel, they’d be getting a Happy Hannukah…Jewish Christmas, doncha know”

Well, they aren’t IN Israel…but even if they were, a lot of them would STILL be uncomfortable.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 20th, 2012
2:42 pm

The toadies who play the role of Judenrat obviously are enjoying the chance to humiliate the opposition, but history suggests their fun will not last.

Must suck to be you.

Fred ™

December 20th, 2012
2:43 pm

Merry Christmas to the Christians or those leaning that way.

Happy Hanukkah to the Jews or those leaning that way.

Enjoy the time off that our religions have afforded you by providing a holiday to the rest of you heathen a$$hats.

There does that cover everyone?