Signs of change on assault weapon ban

U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin, Democrat of West Virginia, generally shies from anything that smacks of liberalism. Last fall, for example, he declined to say publicly that he would vote for Barack Obama. He also campaigned in 2010 by broadcasting a commercial in which he literally shot up an environmental bill, and has earned an A rating from the National Rifle Association for his past opposition to gun-control efforts.

So this means something:

For those unable to view videos, Manchin embraces the idea of renewing a ban on the sale of assault weapons and banning large-capacity magazines, among other steps.

“We’ve never been in these waters before. We’ve had horrific crimes throughout our country but never have we seen so many our our babies out in harms way and their life taken from them, and the grief. I mean, that’s changed me, and has changed most Americans I would think. And with that, let’s look at ways that we can bring a common-sense reasonability to this discussion and bring all the adults to the table.”

Among those whom Manchin wants to invite to the discussion are leaders of the National Rifle Association. “These are good people and they need to be at the table,” Manchin says.

NRA involvement could indeed by useful in forging a compromise. But nothing in its modern history or rhetoric suggests that it was any interest in playing such a role.

– Jay Bookman

772 comments Add your comment

Recon 0311 2533

December 17th, 2012
9:54 pm

I’m perfectly content with imposing heavy taxation on the violent movie producers in Hollywood and on television along with even heavier taxation on the producers of violent video games. I think specifically the producers of the video games that Adam Lanza immersed himself in should be indicted as accessories to murder and brought to trial with penalties of up to life in prison.

Old Goober

December 17th, 2012
9:55 pm

She struggled with her son. She, not being a trained mental health professional, probably had no idea troubled her son was, or she was in denial.

Oh, she knew. See the story at CBSnews.com.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57559502/ex-babysitter-says-newtown-conn-school-shooter-adam-lanzas-mother-warned-dont-turn-your-back/
In fact, according to a former babysitter for Adam, she warned the babysitter never to turn his back on the boy, not even to go to the bathroom. That’s the hell that parents of mentally ill or criminally prone parents go through. The state and the courts don’t give a damn. If your kid acts up and commits a crime, they don’t want to treat the kid. They make you pay for it. They know that the kid has no money to pay for ankle monitors, fines, etc., and they pretend that the Great Fairy in the Sky is going to pay for it. Mental health treatment is the second thing to get cut in a budget, right after training.

You’re hearing it from somebody who has experienced it first-hand. I can only imagine the horror that mother went through, with nobody stepping in to help.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 17th, 2012
9:55 pm

“I’m with you 100% with that. I can’t understand how somebody can claim to be pro-life in one breath and then cheer the death penalty in the next.”

Ah ………………….. because one party is innocent and the other is not?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
9:55 pm

Bro, how appropriate. :D

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 17th, 2012
9:56 pm

Precious and few are the moments we two can share
Quiet and blue, like the sky, I’m hung over you
And if I can’t find my way back home (can’t find my way)
It just wouldn’t be fair (be fair)
Precious and few are the moments we two can share

Baby, it’s you on my mind, your love is so rare
Being with you is a feeling I just can’t compare
And if I can’t hold you in my arms, it just wouldn’t be fair
‘Cause precious and few are the moments we two can share

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I95xCjQe6Jg

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 17th, 2012
9:56 pm

P.S.

A law enforcement officer killing a perpetrator is imposing the “death penalty”.

Mad as hell

December 17th, 2012
9:57 pm

SOLUTIONS :
“”"”"”"”"”"”"”On April 28, 1996, a gunman opened fire on tourists in a seaside resort in Port Arthur, Tasmania. By the time he was finished, he had killed 35 people and wounded 23 more. It was the worst mass murder in Australia’s history.

Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.

At the heart of the push was a massive buyback of more than 600,000 semi-automatic shotguns and rifles, or about one-fifth of all firearms in circulation in Australia. The country’s new gun laws prohibited private sales, required that all weapons be individually registered to their owners, and required that gun buyers present a “genuine reason” for needing each weapon at the time of the purchase. (Self-defense did not count.) In the wake of the tragedy, polls showed public support for these measures at upwards of 90 percent.

What happened next has been the subject of several academic studies. Violent crime and gun-related deaths did not come to an end in Australia, of course. But as the Washington Post’s Wonkblog pointed out in August, homicides by firearm plunged 59 percent between 1995 and 2006, with no corresponding increase in non-firearm-related homicides. The drop in suicides by gun was even steeper: 65 percent”"”"”
http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2012/12/16/gun_control_after_connecticut_shooting_could_australia_s_laws_provide_a.html?wpisrc=most_viral

Who thinks the cons and NRA would buy this solution????????????????????????

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
9:57 pm

Some amazing backpeddling. I think that’s a new speed record.

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
9:59 pm

“A law enforcement officer killing a perpetrator is imposing the “death penalty”.”

Judge, jury, executuioner…all in one. How efficient.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
9:59 pm

A law enforcement officer killing a perpetrator is imposing the “death penalty

Pure garbage.

JamVet

December 17th, 2012
10:01 pm

Corporal, if abortion was outlawed would you, like td, favor the death penalty for women who had them?

Or just life in prison?

Recon 0311 2533

December 17th, 2012
10:01 pm

Mad as hell,

It’s a good time of the year in the land down under, Delta’s ready when you are.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 17th, 2012
10:01 pm

“The Clackamas County Sheriff’s office has responded to the scene; however they are not able to confirm reports at this time. They have, however, confirmed that the shooter has “been neutralized.”

Is this a true statement if he killed himself ?

“been neutralized” ?

Would lead one to initially think the police did that.

Bottom line:

You read a news article and you assume it’s true unless proven otherwise.

DownInAlbany

December 17th, 2012
10:03 pm

ABC’s Jake Tapper pressed White House Press Secretary Jay Carney on the President’s past rhetoric and his past actions. Tapper asked if the White House could provide “one act” that the President has done to support his multiple statements that he plans to change gun laws in order to prevent more violence. When Carney gave a usual talking-points answer Tapper responded “so, no.” The Press Secretary moved on without comment.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/17/1171251/-Press-briefing-by-White-House-Press-Sec-Jay-Carney-gun-control-Obama-Boehner-meeting#

Just saying…

Aquagirl

December 17th, 2012
10:04 pm

A law enforcement officer killing a perpetrator is imposing the “death penalty”.

Find me a law enforcement officer who says “I administered the death penalty while trying to arrest the suspect.” He/she will be saying that from a jail cell.If police shoot someone it’s because they or other people are in imminent danger.

This whole “I administer the death penalty to scumbags” is what drives gun control. Angry a-holes who think they have that right should not own a gun. They LIKE the idea of killing. Eff them, they’re little punks.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 17th, 2012
10:05 pm

“Judge, jury, executuioner…all in one. How efficient.”

No ………… it’s called:

1) “Probable cause”

2) “Emminent threat of death or serious bodily injury to myself or others”

3) “Rendered the individual incapable of continuing the act which prompted me to shoot”.

CASE CLOSED CLEARED !

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 17th, 2012
10:10 pm

P.S.

The perps. are not really dead:

They are just “metaphysically challenged”.

td

December 17th, 2012
10:13 pm

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
9:50 pm

“I can’t understand how somebody can claim to be pro-life in one breath and then cheer the death penalty in the next”

I can’t either. That poster who would impose the death penalty is, to me, the lowest order of hypocrite. I started to say “highest order” and decided that was WAY to flattering.

You guys are totally clueless. It is about choice. The unborn does not have any choice and did not commit any crime against any other human being. People on death row made the choice of taking another human life and must suffer the consequences of their actions.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 17th, 2012
10:13 pm

This one for you Jam – Have a great night & keep holding on..

Bless my heart. Bless my soul.
Didn’t think I’d make it to 22yrs old.
There must be someone up above
sayin’ “Come on Brittany, you got to come on up.”
“You got to Hold on…”

So, bless my heart and bless yours too.
I don;’t know where I’m gonna go
don’t what what I’m gonna do.
Must be somebody up above
sayin’ “Come on Brittany, You got to come on up!”
“You got to hold on…”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le-3MIBxQTw

Old Goober

December 17th, 2012
10:14 pm

Find me a law enforcement officer who says “I administered the death penalty while trying to arrest the suspect.” He/she will be saying that from a jail cell.If police shoot someone it’s because they or other people are in imminent danger.

You might want to check out the latest execution in Florida. Police officer who decided he was going to remove “scumbags” from society without troubling the courts. He so testified to the jury. He was implicated in at least nine such murders.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
10:19 pm

You read a news article and you assume it’s true unless proven otherwise

You mean like box 26/23? Its funny to see a coward backpeddling and now claiming “I believe everything I read in a news story until proven otherwise” while constantly attacking the “librul media”. :lol: :lol: :lol:

They BOTH suck

December 17th, 2012
10:19 pm

td (this was posted at Kyle’s)

Sounds like this might be your church or one you would attend

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/tennessee-pastor-mass-shootings-because-scho

hahahahaha

And I’m gone

Aquagirl

December 17th, 2012
10:20 pm

Police officer who decided he was going to remove “scumbags” from society without troubling the courts. He so testified to the jury.

Congrats for finding an execution that Senior Digits opposes.

They BOTH suck

December 17th, 2012
10:21 pm

keep

Noticed that as well. Wont be long before we hear about the “librul media”……. You can place that bet in Vegas

and I’m really gone this time

everyone have a great night and even better tomorrow

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
10:22 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 17th, 2012
10:27 pm

“Its funny to see a ‘coward’ backpeddling”

Did you read that in a news article or just come up with it yourself ?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 17th, 2012
10:28 pm

Aquagirl (aka: “Waterlass”)

“METAPHYSICALLY CHALLENGED” !

td

December 17th, 2012
10:37 pm

Looks like more Americans are waking up and realizing the government can not protect you from evil.

CBI Deals With Massive Influx Of Potential Gun Buyers

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/12/17/cbi-deals-with-massive-influx-of-potential-gun-buyers/

JamVet

December 17th, 2012
10:43 pm

Looks like more VOTING Americans are waking up and realizing that the Republican mantra of the government is evil is pathetic and anti-American.

Keep up the good work Uncle Sam haters…

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 17th, 2012
10:44 pm

Saw this and had to post it. This is a reminder, no one is promised tomorrow so live TODAY. Remember to Kiss your kids and kiss your spouses/significant others tonight – this may be the last chance you’ll have.

The life of a young teacher’s aide, one of 25 victims gunned down at Sandy Hook Elementary School last week, was just beginning to fall into place. She was finishing her doctorate, and her boyfriend was getting ready to propose to her on Christmas Eve.

mad as hell

December 17th, 2012
11:03 pm

SENSIBLE GUN CONTROL IN A NORMAL CIVILIZED COUNTRY:

“”"”"”"”"”"”- First-time visitors to Israel might be taken aback to see groups of armed teenagers walking through a city plaza on a weeknight, or surprised to walk into a public bathroom and see an M-16 laying across the sinks as a soldier washes his face.

But guns are ubiquitous in Israel, where most 18-year-olds are drafted into the army after high school.

However, once those soldiers finish their service two or three years later, they are subject to civilian gun control regulations that are much stricter than American laws.

In fact, it’s pretty much impossible for civilians who live in Israel to acquire an arsenal of weaponry of the sort used by the alleged shooter in last week’s massacre in Aurora, Colo. James E. Holmes, who is accused of killing 12 people and wounding 58 in the Aurora movie theater, legally bought the firearms he used, according to reports, including a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic pistol and a 12-gauge shotgun. Leading up to the shooting, Holmes had bought thousands of bullets online.

In Israel, assault rifles are banned except for special circumstances, such as communal self-defense in areas deemed to be a security risk. And while political violence in Israel is all too common and gun violence is a growing problem, random shootings of strangers – like the Aurora massacre — are virtually unheard-of here.”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/12/17/signs-of-change-on-assault-weapon-ban/#comments
NO NRA OR FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO OWN A GUN IN ISRAEL but everyone knows how to use one when necessary.

john

December 17th, 2012
11:32 pm

The left is very consistant when there is a tragedy to exploit. This time they didnt even wait for the bodies to be removed from the school.

john

December 17th, 2012
11:35 pm

Every time the President mentions gun control sales of guns skyrockets. He is so stupid.

john

December 17th, 2012
11:38 pm

I have decided to give NRA memberships to friends for CHRISTmas.

Mad as hell

December 17th, 2012
11:42 pm

Glad people like John are lining Dan Quayle’s pockets. Republicans sure know how to profit off human suffering:
“”"”"”"”"…. In recent years, many top-selling brands — including the 195-year-old Remington Arms, as well as Bushmaster Firearms and DPMS, leading makers of military-style semiautomatics — have quietly passed into the hands of a single private company. It is called the Freedom Group — and it is the most powerful and mysterious force in the American commercial gun industry today. ….

Behind this giant is Cerberus Capital Management, the private investment company that first came to widespread attention when it acquired Chrysler in 2007. (Chrysler later had to be rescued by taxpayers). With far less fanfare, Cerberus, through the Freedom Group, has been buying big names in guns and ammo. ….

Mr. Feinberg, a Princeton graduate who began his Wall Street career at Drexel Burnham Lambert, the junk bond powerhouse of Michael R. Milken fame, got into private equity in 1992. That year, he and William L. Richter founded Cerberus, which takes its name from the three-headed dog in Greek mythology that guards the gates of Hades.

Today, Mr. Feinberg presides over a private empire that rivals some of the mightiest public companies in the land. Cerberus manages more than $20 billion in capital. Together, the companies it owns generate annual revenue of about $40 billion — more than either Amazon or Coca-Cola last year. ….

Cerberus brings some connections to the table. The longtime chairman of its global investments group is Dan Quayle, the former vice president. …”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439×2387894

john

December 17th, 2012
11:44 pm

The left doesnt mourn for the victims. they see this as a political opportunity. as soon as it happened they were busy exploiting it.

john

December 17th, 2012
11:47 pm

the ACLU defeated a bill focusing on mental illness in CT so we should all tell them they have blood on their hands.

That Black Guy

December 18th, 2012
12:22 am

Completely off topic:

Doggone, I have a friend that has 6 puppies who lost their mom. They are about 3 weeks old. She’s getting them to eat but having problems getting them to have bowel movements. Any suggestions? You can send the response to Jay and have him forward it to me. Thanks for any advice you can give. It would tear her apart to lose her dog and her dogs pups.

appleseed

December 18th, 2012
1:40 am

claim pro-life in one sentence,cheer the death penalty in the next.This is same as being against abortions,then wanting to deny prenatal care and care after the child is born to the unwed or persons unable to afforf the cost.Hypocrisy at highest level.

appleseed

December 18th, 2012
1:42 am

afford — late/early take choice.

jays Brain

December 18th, 2012
2:21 am

In 2009 over 10,000 people were killed by drunk drivers. In 2010 again over 10,000 of which 211 where children. In 2011 reportedly over 9800 people. I don’t own a gun but I do drink and drive. Just thinking out loud.

Jack ®

December 18th, 2012
5:27 am

Assault weapons are for the military.

Truth-O-Meter

December 18th, 2012
5:44 am

Now I am waiting for my Congressman, John Barrow, who made a campaign ad bragging about his NRA endorsement and love of guns to denounce assault weapons. That ad nearly cost him my vote; then I saw another ad by his opponent and held my nose and voted for Barrow anyway.

Truth-O-Meter

December 18th, 2012
5:44 am

Now I am waiting for my Congressman, John Barrow, who made a campaign ad bragging about his NRA endorsement and love of guns to denounce assault weapons. That ad nearly cost him my vote; then I saw another ad by his opponent and held my nose and voted for Barrow anyway.

stands for decibels

December 18th, 2012
5:55 am

Guns kill people.

stands for decibels

December 18th, 2012
5:58 am

people were killed by drunk drivers.

in the off chance this ‘jay’s brain’ mystery meat is capable of thinking–

why don’t you look at how many we lost in this country every year from drunk driving before we enacted measures to seriously combat it, and before it became a public disgrace to get behind the wheel intoxicated?

(and yes, I know Jay and others have answered this point thus already a dozen times in here, but it’s a new day.)

TaxPayer

December 18th, 2012
6:19 am

Us citizens, Americans, patriots, kill other US citizens, Americans, patriots. They like killing. It is their conflict resolution of choice and their weapon of choice is the gun. And the bigger the better. And why not. Guns, when properly used, are very effective at ending any opposition to the victor’s beliefs by those that he killed. We are a nation of killers and we are clearly quite proud of that fact. Onward, Christian soldiers.

godless heathen - Law Abiding Citizen

December 18th, 2012
6:55 am

I hate to put a damper on the zeal to blame the Newtown killings on an “assault rifle”, but lets look at some facts.

From USA Today’s Timeline of events at the school:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/14/school-shooting-connecticut/1769367/?sf7893806=1

9:40 AM: Police report that a shooter is in the main office of the school
10:23 AM: Police enter the school where the shooting occurred.

Forty three minutes available for the sicko to do his work. He didn’t use all that time, but that was the window available to him. He could have done the deed with grandpa’s double barrel shotgun and still have had time too visit the snack machine.

FACTS that don’t very well fit with the fervor to blame the gun.

godless heathen - Law Abiding Citizen

December 18th, 2012
6:58 am

Guns kill people.
Cars kill people.
Falling trees kill people.
Stepladders kill people.
Bathtubs kill people.
Swimming pools kill people.
Knives kill people.
Bombs kill people.
Airplanes kill people.

Murderers kill people.

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer...and Ban the Gun Thug!

December 18th, 2012
7:00 am

Why doesn’t anything like people?

TaxPayer

December 18th, 2012
7:05 am

The gunman walked in and confidently pulled out his trigger finger and started squeezing. Nothing happened. The gunman was shocked. What went wrong. Oh! Gotta have a gun.

TaxPayer

December 18th, 2012
7:08 am

Gun owners should also use their glocks to drive nails so they can honestly claim that guns are then just like swimming pools or cars or ladders or trees. The barrel makes the perfect handle. But remember to leave it loaded and the safety off just in case a robber might be trying to sneak up on you.

Skip

December 18th, 2012
7:25 am

Seems America is incapable of solving just about anything.

Jay

December 18th, 2012
7:28 am

Godless, you are relying on an outdated timeline. Here’s the more detailed, accurate version:

9:35:53 a.m.- Dispatch: “Sandy Hook School, Caller’s indicated she thinks someone is shooting in the building.”

9:38:10 a.m.: Dispatch: “The shooting appears to have stopped. The school is in lock down.”

9:40:30 a.m.: Dispatch: “Shooter’s apparently still shooting in office area. Dickerson Drive.”

943:45 a.m.: Dispatch: “We have one female in Room 1 who has gunshot wound to the foot.”

9:46:20 a.m.: Dispatch: “We’ve got an injured person in Room 9 with numerous gunshot wounds.”

9:53:25 a.m.: Dispatch: “Newtown’s reporting one suspect down. The building has now been cleared.”

18 minutes, from first 911 call to a dead suspect.

AU Liberal in ATL

December 18th, 2012
7:44 am

While the talk sounds hopeful, I’m still not convinced. The horse is out of the barn. We’ve been living and dying in this violent, gun nut, “Christian” society for so long, it’s not going to be easy to change. And, there are so many who don’t want a change. Every time we see carnage like this gun business goes through the roof. For some it’s an issue of pure stupidity, for others it’s all about the money. It either case, it’ll be hard to overcome.
I believe President Obama is sincere in his efforts. I just hope he has the balls to stand up to the radical right wing nutcases and hypocrites who haunt Congress. He certainly has my full support.
Jay, I’d suggest that you don’t ban the ChINO. Comic relief is vital these days.

Independent

December 18th, 2012
7:48 am

Bread and circuses, feel good political grandstanding. At least we can look forward to a temporary bump in the economy from weapon sales. It is fairly easy to take an M1 Garand of WW2 fame and fire off all 8 rounds in a couple of seconds. Reloading takes less than 3 seconds. Bolt action riflles in experienced hands can achieve similar rates of fire. Charles Whitman was able to kill 13 and wound 32 others in 1966 without the use of a so-called “assault weapon”. If someone is determined to kill, they will find the means. 3,000 died eleven years ago without a single shot being fired.

AU Liberal in ATL

December 18th, 2012
7:51 am

John, between you and the President, you’re the stupid one. You’re wrong on every issue. President Obama has not uttered the words “gun control”. Not once.

KEITH

December 18th, 2012
8:01 am

Since obama failed to reinstate the clinton gun ban when he had majorities in both Houses of Congress does bookman think that obama has blood on his hands from this tragedy?

KEITH

December 18th, 2012
8:07 am

how can someone be prolife and support the death penalty? Simple. Prolife is in reference to innocent children. The death penalty is in reference to murderers. Understand now?

KEITH

December 18th, 2012
8:08 am

if a senator votes for ANY bans on guns we will make them pay in the next election.

KEITH

December 18th, 2012
8:11 am

what bookman and his hysterical comrades fail to mention is that the Bushmaser gun is already banned in CT. Lots of good the ban did.

KEITH

December 18th, 2012
8:13 am

perhaps guns should only be banned in blue states like CO and CT. People there do not seem mentally stable enough to own guns. they voted for obama didnt they?

JamVet

December 18th, 2012
8:17 am

k, your name in caps makes your ignorance-filled drivel no less insipid.

Go back to all lower case, it seems more fitting.

BTW, saw this and thought of you cons here…

A North Alabama football player has been told he’s no longer on the team after making racist remarks about President Obama on Twitter on Sunday night.

On Sunday night, President Obama gave a speech from Newtown, Conn., addressing the terrible tragedy that took place at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Friday. It was a speech that pre-empted NBC’s showing of Sunday Night Football, which upset quite a few people, apparently.

And one of those people was North Alabama football player Bradley Patterson. When the president began his speech, instead of just changing the channel to continue watching the game, Patterson took to his Twitter account.

“Take that n—– off the tv, we wanna watch football!” Patterson tweeted.

As you’d expect when an idiotic statement like that goes national, Patterson quickly deleted his Twitter account but only after going the “I was hacked” route. Well, Patterson’s school isn’t gullible enough to believe that. He has been asked not to return to the football team.

At a minimum he is a good foot soldier in your All White Conservative Army…

Evolve or die.

(Either way is good with me.)

Joe Hussein Mama

December 18th, 2012
9:02 am

J. Reb — “Only a bleeding heart would think a patriot would sell his freedom for gun buyback dollars.”

Only a gun fetishist would think that his freedom equalled his firearms.

“if I could get all those people who did not vote in November to read the trash you guys post here, Dems would never win another election. You would scare the vote out of them.”

Bring. It. On. Son. You were wrong about November and you’re going to be just as wrong about the next election, too.

fair and balanced

December 18th, 2012
9:23 am

Idyllic Newtown Conn. Had a Serious Gun Problem:

People in the rural, hilly areas around Newtown, Conn., are used to gunfire. In one woodsy stretch, southeast of downtown, the Pequot Fish and Game Club and the Fairfield County Fish and Game Protective Association, where members can fish in ponds and hunt pheasant, lie within a mile of each other, and people who live nearby generally call them good neighbors.In the last couple of years, residents began noticing loud, repeated gunfire, and even explosions, coming from new places. Near a trailer park. By a boat launch. Next to well-appointed houses. At 2:20 p.m. on one Wednesday last spring, multiple shots were reported in a wooded area on Cold Spring Road near South Main Street, right across the road from an elementary school.

Yet recent efforts by the police chief and other town leaders to gain some control over the shooting and the weaponry turned into a tumultuous civic fight, with traditional hunters and discreet gun owners opposed by assault weapon enthusiasts, and a modest tolerance for bearing arms competing with the staunch views of a gun industry trade association, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which has made Newtown its home.

See http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/17/nyregion/in-newtown-conn-a-stiff-resistance-to-gun-restrictions.html?

How about we start with this town’s gun fetish????

jays Brain

December 18th, 2012
10:07 am

hey Stands for decibels love your typical liberal demorat “if you can think:” BS and hate. Like a typical dubmaarse DEMORAT, you want all guns banned just like you ban all drugs. it solves NOTHING. If I wanted to kill you or any number of people I wouldn’t need a gun to it. People like you think government can ban hate, drugs, guns and solve all life problems yet the real problem in life is people that think like you. Seems like all these mass killings happen in liberal – socialist thinking states.
Murder is illegal, theft is illegal, rape is illegal……..Lose your hard on for more government control. I can help it that weak noodles like you need government to tell you how to think, what to buy and what not to buy. Don’t blame me or the government- go ask your parents why you are so weak and a government dependent simpleton.
Think about that,.

DownInAlbany

December 18th, 2012
10:26 am

With all the libs throwing barbs in the direction of anything conservative, what, exactly has our just re-elected Prez done to stem the violence? Yesterday, Jay Carney couldn’t name even one example of his actions to stop gun violence. Hail to the Chief!

KEITH

December 18th, 2012
10:35 am

Colorado Bureau of INVESTIGATION IS REPORTING RECORD GUN BUYING IN THE STATE IN THE WAKE OF CALLS FOR GUN CONTROL. DEFEATS YOUR PURPOSE DOESNT IT BOOKMAN?

KEITH

December 18th, 2012
10:37 am

The Bushmaster rifle is already banned in CT and the school is a gunfree zone. So the laws bookman advocates are already in place where this happened.

DownInAlbany

December 18th, 2012
10:45 am

TRANSCRIPT:

BN: You said you would change your mind on gun control

MANCHIN: Honey, I didn’t change my mind on anything. I think
everything should be open for discussion.

BN: But apparently, in one of your campaign ads, it shows you holding a gun.

MANCHIN: Sure.

BN: In the same light you’ve sort of said that it’s time to change the
gun laws.

MANCHIN: I’ve never said that. Where are you getting this from?

BN: Okay, so what are you saying now these days?

MANCHIN: We’ll talk. I mean. You’re totally off base. You’re
misinformed and you’re off base. You know I’ll put a statement out and
you ought to read my statement. We’ll get you a statement. I’m not
gonna say a word, Okay? I’ll get you a statement.

BN: But it’s my understanding that…

MANCHIN: No it’s not. You’re totally misinformed and you’re out of touch.

BN: But do you think the gun laws should be changed.

MANCHIN: I think everything should be on the table.

BN: But do you think the gun laws should be changed?

MANCHIN: I think everything should be looked at. Everything needs to
be looked at.

BN: Everything needs to be changed then?

MANCHIN: No, honey, nothing. I’m not talking to you anymore I can
tell where you’re going.

But, the NRA and Republicans are the cowards? (not to mention sexist with the “honey” line)

Nunna Yobinnes

December 18th, 2012
11:19 am

“The country’s new gun laws prohibited private sales, required that all weapons be individually registered to their owners, and required that gun buyers present a “genuine reason” for needing each weapon at the time of the purchase. (Self-defense did not count.) ”

Wow, the citizens of Australia must get the warm fuzzies knowing that their government wants to deny them the right to defend themselves. I guess their government considers law abiding citizens “expendable”.

Just Saying..

December 18th, 2012
11:53 am

Christian Conservative
December 17th, 2012
4:13 pm/”Its really sad Jay that you people on the left use children as your props to help pass gun legislation…”

And neither did you like the way Obama was elected to a 2nd term, and God’s Only Party losing, rather than gaining, seats in the House and Senate…

Prepare thyself…