Signs of change on assault weapon ban

U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin, Democrat of West Virginia, generally shies from anything that smacks of liberalism. Last fall, for example, he declined to say publicly that he would vote for Barack Obama. He also campaigned in 2010 by broadcasting a commercial in which he literally shot up an environmental bill, and has earned an A rating from the National Rifle Association for his past opposition to gun-control efforts.

So this means something:

For those unable to view videos, Manchin embraces the idea of renewing a ban on the sale of assault weapons and banning large-capacity magazines, among other steps.

“We’ve never been in these waters before. We’ve had horrific crimes throughout our country but never have we seen so many our our babies out in harms way and their life taken from them, and the grief. I mean, that’s changed me, and has changed most Americans I would think. And with that, let’s look at ways that we can bring a common-sense reasonability to this discussion and bring all the adults to the table.”

Among those whom Manchin wants to invite to the discussion are leaders of the National Rifle Association. “These are good people and they need to be at the table,” Manchin says.

NRA involvement could indeed by useful in forging a compromise. But nothing in its modern history or rhetoric suggests that it was any interest in playing such a role.

– Jay Bookman

772 comments Add your comment

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 17th, 2012
4:03 pm

I was really hoping for MARTA sheets.

Or anything else really….

Granny Godzilla

December 17th, 2012
4:03 pm

NRA at the table?

over 20 little dead bodies

Joe Hussein Mama

December 17th, 2012
4:05 pm

This is a big thing, if Manchin is willing to consider changes.

I’ve got a lot of family up in Ohio coal country, not far from the West Virginia state line, and shootin’ irons up there are part of subsistence for some poor families. That said, IMO most folks up in that area probably couldn’t *afford* flashy rifles or big magazines, and probably wouldn’t want them for hunting anyway.

Just a good long rifle and shotgun, both well-maintained and cared for, and most poor WV mountain folks would be good to go.

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:08 pm

“Or anything else really….”

and even if you’d gotten that…do you really think the subject would have “stuck” for more than about 5 minutes?

godless heathen - Law Abiding Citizen

December 17th, 2012
4:10 pm

He’s got 6 years before he has to face the voters.

Greg

December 17th, 2012
4:13 pm

As a gunowner myself, I don’t see the point in owning an assault style rifle myself. Just a shotgun, a couple of handguns and a long rifle is all the arsenal I see the point in having. I don’t know the situation where I would need an assault rifle. Hiking/camping – too bulky and heavy to carry, the handguns do just fine, home defense – shotgun is easier and the sound it makes when you pump it is one of the most distinguishable noises in the world. If the world really goes bad, I will take my long rifle, scope and go hide instead of charging with an AR-15. Oh, and I vote libertarian.

josef

December 17th, 2012
4:13 pm

K’CHAK

I heartily agree…

DOGGONE

Maybe, maybe not. And don’t know if you got my message this a.m. vis a vis that link last p.m.
It was a great way to start a very taxing day… thanks…

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:13 pm

Its really sad Jay that you people on the left use children as your props to help pass gun legislation…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
4:15 pm

As may have been pointed out before, just following the desires of NRA members who are for some sensible gun control (including background checks) would be a start. But just a start.

godless heathen - Law Abiding Citizen

December 17th, 2012
4:15 pm

Good for you, Greg. So since you don’t want to own one of those ugly guns, do you think noone else should either?

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:16 pm

“It was a great way to start a very taxing day… thanks”

Yes, I did see your reply. Glad you enjoyed it. I actually saw it for the first time as a video and ’bout fell out of my chair laughing. That’s the kind of sense of humor I can only WISH I had! But I’m glad I can at least enjoy it.

Brad Steel

December 17th, 2012
4:17 pm

NRA at the table? over 20 little dead bodies

That’s the shameful truth.

Brosephus™

December 17th, 2012
4:18 pm

Now, I don’t get too deep into the ban this, ban that stuff. However, I think there are some reasonable arguments on some things. I enjoy target shooting and such, but I don’t see the necessity of something like this…

http://www.tnmoutdoors.com/store/shopexd.asp?id=1440

being available on the open market for anybody. I know that will ruffle some feathers here, but I honestly don’t care. I don’t even think we stock these things for our military, and if it’s anybody that needs to be able to put lots of rounds downrange without having to constantly reload, it’s our military personnel in battle.

That’s my two cents. I seriously doubt we will see any significant change after this incident.

Erwin's cat

December 17th, 2012
4:18 pm

Kam
x2…i’m back in the box

JamVet

December 17th, 2012
4:18 pm

Great, the non-Christian non-conservative has showed up to step in his own ____ once again.

As for his “sadness” over this matter, it is very touching, is it not?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
4:20 pm

Christian (no so) Conservative, you mean like Obama lied, people died? No one on the left is using children for props any more than those on the right who said “I wish more were armed”. That is simply buffoonery and nonsense.

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:20 pm

“As for his “sadness” over this matter, it is very touching, is it not”

Especially as he seems to have NONE left FOR those children

Stephenson Billings

December 17th, 2012
4:20 pm

So what exactly is an “assault weapon”?

According to the now expired “Clinton-era assault weapons ban,” an “assault weapon” is any semi-automatic weapon that has a detachable magazine and 2 or more of the following:Folding or telescoping stock, pistol grip, bayonet mount, flash suppressor (or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one), and grenade launcher mount.

That’s right…as long as it has 2 or more of the above, it doesn’t matter if it fires .22 long rifle. It’s considered an ASSAULT WEAPON. Purely cosmetic criteria and ignorant legislation to make people FEEL better instead of looking at root causes of this type of behavior.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 17th, 2012
4:21 pm

C. Conservative — “Its really sad Jay that you people on the left use children as your props to help pass gun legislation…”

http://unwalled.wordpress.com/2012/05/04/an-unborn-childs-plea-2/

Yeah, you, your side and your glurge can go take a freakin’ hike. :roll:

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:23 pm

“According to the now expired “Clinton-era assault weapons ban,” ”

“now expired” And when that ban was passed those were valid criteria by which to judge. A new ban would have to have new criteria. Is that so hard to figure out?

Granny Godzilla

December 17th, 2012
4:25 pm

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:13 pm
Its really sad Jay that you people on the left use children as your props to help pass gun legislation…
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Christian? You aren’t even close.

Sadder still is your taking the Lords name in vain.

Greg

December 17th, 2012
4:25 pm

Just because I don’t own one doesn’t mean I don’t believe they should be available for purchase to any law abiding citizen. I just don’t think it is the most effective use of my dollars or abilities. Yes this was a tragedy, but anytime a child is taken too early it is a tragedy. How many lives are taken each year because of drunk drivers? Each of these is no less a tragedy to those families, yet I don’t hear serious people revisiting prohibition. How are these things related? Both shootings and drunk driving are the direct result of misuse of an otherwise harmless item.

Real Scootter

December 17th, 2012
4:26 pm

I was really hoping for MARTA sheets.

Or anything else really….

Blogspot.com is ready when you are! (sorry kam,I couldn’t help it!!! :lol:

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 17th, 2012
4:26 pm

…and even if you’d gotten that…do you really think the subject would have “stuck” for more than about 5 minutes?

Good point, but I did have hopes. Almost 2700 comments over 2 threads suggests this one’s been talked out.

getalife is correct, Republicans will hold this up in the house.

You are correct, law abiding citizens don’t have to justify their enthusiasms.

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OH NOES! THE DJIA HAS MOVED 100 POINTS AND WE ARE FCREWN!

Wait.

What’s that?

The DJIA moved UP 100 points?

Never mind.

moonbat betty

December 17th, 2012
4:27 pm

Go ahead and abolish the NRA and assault rifles.

The body count will continue to rise.

Chris Salzmann

December 17th, 2012
4:28 pm

Christian Conservative @4:13 pm “Its really sad Jay that you people on the left use children as your props to help pass gun legislation…”

You must believe in arming yourselves to the teeth just like the “Good Book” says. Heck, Jesus was a teacher and I’m sure he packed heat too. He lead by example. Nothing like the warmth of cold steel strapped under that long robe?

josef

December 17th, 2012
4:28 pm

SCOOTTER

:-) But, hey, I’m in Kam’s camp…

Matti

December 17th, 2012
4:29 pm

CC is a troll of the worst kind. May I ask that we please starve it? Good sense is trying to peek through raw emotions, and we just don’t need that creepiness.

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:29 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!:

Let Jay defend himself… This issue is about guns! Plain and simple. But there is a good point made in the blog about how the left simply don’t value human life. When its ok to kill a baby simply for inconvenience and its promoted and tolerated by a certain political party…. Thats sad….

rightwingextreme

December 17th, 2012
4:30 pm

jay,

i charge that the president and dimocrats are the biggest murderers of children in this country. where’s your concern and the left’s concern for the over 750,000 babies murdered legally this year? not one was killed with a gun either. those precious little unborn children are people too. they have feelings. they sense movement and other sensations. they respond to voices in the womb. the only difference between them and the kids in connecticut is time and cells. plus, we can put a face on those little ones in connecticut……we don’t put a face on those murdered in the womb.

the president has supported legislation that would allow a baby who survived the first attempt to take their life in the womb to be murdered even after being born. he has innocent blood on his hands.

search your heart…you know i’m right on this.

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:31 pm

“When its ok to kill a baby simply for inconvenience ”

When you have to lie to make your point, you have no point.

indigo

December 17th, 2012
4:31 pm

He’s probably going to be the first of many politicians who are counting the potential votes and hope they guess right as to what the electorate mood will be about guns in the 2014 mid-terms.

(you don’t really think conscience will play a part in this, do you?)

N-GA (economic base jumper)

December 17th, 2012
4:32 pm

@Billings – One of the requirements you mentioned (not 1 of 2) is the detachable magazine. That is unnecessary in any (normal) sport. Extend that feature to magazines with 40, 50, or even 100 rounds is ludicrous. The simple fact is that this one feature is what allows someone to do so much damage. No patrolman carrying a 12-14 round handgun can hope to prevail against someone with such an assault weapon. And it seems that people are intent on illegally converting the semi-automatic action to fully-automatic. Personally I don’t think any other feature other than a detachable magazine is sufficient to make the weapon illegal….just sayin’

hiram

December 17th, 2012
4:32 pm

JohnnyReb

December 17th, 2012
4:32 pm

First, there is no such thing as an “assault” weapon. Any weapon can be used for assualt.

The rifles in question are tactical because they are associated with military style. They fire one bullet at a time, require a trigger pull to fire each round. They do reload automatically so the faster one pulls the trigger the more rounds fire.

Anyone with malice will have more than one clip. If you eliminate 30 round clips, he will have more 6 round clips.

Banning semi-automatic rifles is a political solution to a sick society that will not fix the problem. Conneticut already had some a ban on semi-automatic weapons which did not help, did it?

Screening people and letting some buy and others not wont’ fix the problem. For example, the arms belonged to the boy’s mother, not him.

It’s almost sickening the way the Left jumps on every tragedy in order to push their agenda.

Lastly, who had the brainstorm to include the NRA? Unlike the wimpy Republicans who will cave and give Obama tax rate hikes, the NRA will NEVER, and I mean NEVER agree to banning semi automatic rifles.

Oscar

December 17th, 2012
4:33 pm

I think its probably time to ban sales of assault weapons and clips holding over ten rounds.
Not banning them has not done any good. Time to try banning them.
Second amendment never applied to assault weapons.

arnold

December 17th, 2012
4:33 pm

When I see the NRA doing something reasonable, I’ll believe it. Not until then.

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:33 pm

“i charge that the president and dimocrats are the biggest murderers ”

They’re crawling out of the woodwork FAST now.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
4:33 pm

CC, really so now its “okay” for you to use a fetus as a prop? As JHM would point out, you pegged the irony meter and in fact, I think you spiked it so hard you bent the needle.

Its clear that you are not engaging your brain before your post.

Class of '98

December 17th, 2012
4:33 pm

“that’s changed me, and has changed most Americans I would think”

What an incredibly arrogant, know-it-all thing to say. This tragedy has changed me, in that it has increased my hatred of “gun-free zones”.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 17th, 2012
4:33 pm

…750,000 babies murdered legally this year?

Murdered legally?

Abortion is a legal procedure, therefore by definition, it cannot be “murder”.

josef

December 17th, 2012
4:34 pm

CC
“When its ok to kill a baby simply for inconvenience ”

You don’t get much further left than me, but I’ll put mine and Unmentionable’s record on that one up against yours any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Some folks talk the talk and others walk the walk.

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:34 pm

Chris Salzmann:

The liberal mindset is so laughable. I guess we should just realize that banning guns is the answer to all our problems. I’m sure criminals will just run to the nearest police station and turn their guns right over….

You fruits still miss the big picture. Humans are violent… Now add the fact that children grow up lacking morals. They have unlimited access to pornography, alcohol, and drugs. Immoral behavior is accepted by society! Will banning guns make it better. That’s an emphatic NO!!!!

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:34 pm

“Its clear that you are not engaging your brain before your post”

Brain?

arnold

December 17th, 2012
4:35 pm

How many rounds are needed in a deer rifle when hunting? Do you often get more than one round off before the deer is gone? There is no need for more than 2-3 rounds in any magazine.

godless heathen - Law Abiding Citizen

December 17th, 2012
4:35 pm

Both shootings and drunk driving are the direct result of misuse of an otherwise harmless item.

BTW, I don’t own any so-called “assault rifles”, but I know some folks that enjoy shooting them and use them for competitions. And they could come in handy in case of zombie invasion.

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:35 pm

I saw yesterday on MessNBC that young white guys who act funny should be profiled… If thats the case every single liberal that fits that description will be profiled…

indigo

December 17th, 2012
4:36 pm

Christian Conservative – 4:29 “when it’s ok to kill a baby simply for inconvience”

Is that why God allows thousands of spontaneous abortions to happen every day? Do pregnant women somehow “inconvience” him?

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:36 pm

“Abortion is a legal procedure, therefore by definition, it cannot be “murder”.”

And it’s already illegal to kill a baby

Granny Godzilla

December 17th, 2012
4:36 pm

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:29 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!:

Let Jay defend himself… This issue is about guns! Plain and simple. But there is a good point made in the blog about how the left simply don’t value human life. When its ok to kill a baby simply for inconvenience and its promoted and tolerated by a certain political party…. Thats sad….
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Tolerated by one party?

OMFG.

Have you any idea how many opportunities the “right” has had to
end abortion?

They waive it in front of your unprepossessing face every election cycle and when they win – do nothing.

You are being played for a fool.

Abortion is still legal in AMerica because conservative leadership would rather have wedge issue than a resolved issue.

Over and over and over and over

Real Scootter

December 17th, 2012
4:36 pm

But, hey, I’m in Kam’s camp

Me too josef,but like I said I couldn’t help myself! :grin: Oh,the devil made me do it.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 17th, 2012
4:36 pm

You fruits still…

Fruits?

I see that Joseph/mike has a new sock-puppet.

rightwingextreme

December 17th, 2012
4:36 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 17th, 2012
4:33 pm
…750,000 babies murdered legally this year?

Murdered legally?

Abortion is a legal procedure, therefore by definition, it cannot be “murder”.

Killing the Jews in the concentration camps was legal as well, yet the Nazi’s were charged with war crimes among which was the murder of 6 million Jews.

it was once legal to own slaves in this country. didn’t make it right.

spin it any way you like it, it’s the murder of a human being. it’s condeming to your argument you’re hiding behind a “legal” definition.

Patrick

December 17th, 2012
4:37 pm

I agree with Matti–let’s starve the CC troll.

Everyone else in?

getalife

December 17th, 2012
4:37 pm

Did we find our moral compass?

The red line was 20 kids massacred?

Interesting debate and the Dems say all ideas on the table.

In other words, government failed to keep these kids safe a school.

Treat it like 9/11 and allocate those resources.

Stop cutting education and restore that money too.

Focus on it like with aq.

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:37 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!:

Sure its ok because you fruits don’t believe its a child do ya??? I thought ya’ll thought it was just a mass??? Because if you thought it was an actual baby then my synopsis would be correct.. baby killing…

moonbat betty

December 17th, 2012
4:37 pm

How anyone can stay for any length of time and post on this topic is beyond me.

It’s an instant headache!

Enjoy! Laters!

barking frog

December 17th, 2012
4:38 pm

when you keep doing the same thing
and expect different results, is that not insanity.

Rick C

December 17th, 2012
4:38 pm

“Both shootings and drunk driving are the direct result of misuse of an otherwise harmless item.”

A gun’s primary function is to harm and that is what they were designed to do.

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:38 pm

“spin it any way you like it, it’s the murder of a human being”

No, it isn’t.

Matti

December 17th, 2012
4:39 pm

Why are y’all feeding it? Seriously. You feed the troll and it continues to schidt all over this page. It’s like feeding week-old pepperoni pizza to a senile dog with colitis. For the love of anything loveworthy, please stop feeding the nasty troll. Please?

Southwillriseagain

December 17th, 2012
4:39 pm

The gubmint is coming for our guns….this is the sure sign of the 2nd civil war. Stock up now while you can.

JamVet

December 17th, 2012
4:40 pm

No matter what name he uses, cc is reprehensible.

He and that other psychopathic “Christian” td, make for one helluva pair, huh?

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:40 pm

Patrick:

You could try to starve but you fruits can’t stand it. Your sitting in your basement in your underwear I’m sure and foaming at the mouth at every word I type…. You people are a sad lot but in my opinion are the real cause of why these mass killings are becoming more prominent….

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 17th, 2012
4:40 pm

…it’s the murder of a human being.

Nope.

You’re using the emotional attachment to the word “murder” to make your point, just like you brought up the spectre of Hitler

I understand that you find abortion abhorrent, but you don’t get to use made up definitions to support your argument.

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:40 pm

“In other words, government failed to keep these kids safe a school”

No it didn’t. Anyone who thinks government can protect everyone from everything needs to take a good, long, hard look at hurricane Sandy.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
4:41 pm

Well then is assault weapons are desired for competitions, then license them to limited groups who pass extensive background checks like some gun shops and firing ranges. And control the clips. You can go shoot those guns all you want. You don’t take them home. They stayed locked up in a highly controlled environment. Safety first.

Regnad Kcin

December 17th, 2012
4:41 pm

“You fruits still miss the big picture”

Hey, he calls people “fruits,” just like Jesus did!

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:42 pm

“Sure its ok because you fruits don’t believe its a child do ya??? ”

Nope. We KNOW it’s not a child.

rightwingextreme

December 17th, 2012
4:42 pm

Granny Godzilla

December 17th, 2012
4:36 pm
Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:29 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!:

Let Jay defend himself… This issue is about guns! Plain and simple. But there is a good point made in the blog about how the left simply don’t value human life. When its ok to kill a baby simply for inconvenience and its promoted and tolerated by a certain political party…. Thats sad….
.
.
.

Tolerated by one party?

OMFG.

Have you any idea how many opportunities the “right” has had to
end abortion?

They waive it in front of your unprepossessing face every election cycle and when they win – do nothing.

You are being played for a fool.

Abortion is still legal in AMerica because conservative leadership would rather have wedge issue than a resolved issue.

Over and over and over and over

Actually GG, it’s the dimocrats that keep this going. Obama and Pelosi mandated this be covered in obamacare.

The left always screams at election time about the “war on women” and how the gop will send them back to the dark ages.

No…your argument is wasted. It’s the dimocrat party, and anyone who supports them, that is the party of murder in this country.

obama didn’t even oppose a bill preventing the murder of a child who survives abortion and then he has the gall to stand before those folks in connecticut and the nation and tell us he cares about kids. please!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 17th, 2012
4:42 pm

I’m sure and foaming at the mouth at every word I type….

We’re laughing at you mike, not with you.

GT

December 17th, 2012
4:42 pm

Was it Meet the Press yesterday that invited any Senator who had monetary support from the NRA to appear on the show, some number in the 30s I believe, and they were turned down by every one of them. Brave men these gun guys.

getalife

December 17th, 2012
4:42 pm

moonbat,

That headache is caused by empathy.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
4:42 pm

Christian, how many guns do you have?

Brosephus™

December 17th, 2012
4:43 pm

It’s like feeding week-old pepperoni pizza to a senile dog with colitis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKm5xQyD2vE

josef

December 17th, 2012
4:43 pm

SCOOTER

“…and the Rev says, ‘how come anytime the devil makes you do something it’s always for you. When’s he gonna do something for me?”
“I asked him about that. He said if it wasn’t for him, you wouldn’t have no job”

The Rev says, “well, why didn’t you step on the brake?”
“‘Cause I was kickin him. You can’t kick ‘im and step on the brake at the same time! You don’t know. You wasn’t there. We had a big old fight. That’s why I was in the backseat when y’all got the car turned over>”

G-d I loved Flip Wilson… :-)

Chris Salzmann

December 17th, 2012
4:44 pm

When someone says “Christian Conservative”, I don’t see the point of a debate. Your kind got beaten soundly in the last two elections. No one cares what the hell you think!!! So go dig a hole and climb in. People like you thrive on ignorance and intolerance.

Redcoat

December 17th, 2012
4:44 pm

What law is going to change the mind of someone mentally ill from harming anyone? Law enforcement officers are not required to protect you.

getalife

December 17th, 2012
4:44 pm

“normal thinking people…”

That is hilarious :)

cons are out of the mainstream and majority thinking.

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:44 pm

GT:

Those Senators had the honor and decency to let the families mourn instead of trotting out there in front of a camera spewing liberal talking points. I asked a question on the last blog and still haven’t found an answer. Who will benefit from this horrific tragedy the most?

They BOTH suck

December 17th, 2012
4:45 pm

“Especially you JamVet. No way could you ignore me. I can imagine you sitting there in a soiled diaper in some nursing home with drool running down the side of your face preaching to us liberal non-sense that will never be accepted by normal thinking people….”

Definitely competing with td for the most compassionate and tolerant Christian on the blog………………….

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:45 pm

“obama didn’t even oppose a bill preventing the murder of a child who survives abortion ”

Because there were ALREADY LAWS ON THE BOOKS that protect that living child. Once a foetus is separated from the umbilical cord it is a separate being from the woman, and immediately becomes a citizen and is therefore under the protection of the laws against murder.

And if you had bothered to read the history of the vote and the reasons for it you wouldn’t spout of idiotic talking points about it.

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:46 pm

getalife:

So owning a gun and protecting oneself is out of the mainstream??? Hmmm. You may need to eat more fish…

Aquagirl

December 17th, 2012
4:46 pm

A gun’s primary function is to harm and that is what they were designed to do.

Instead of relying solely on legislation, we need to take the drunk driving approach. Toughen penalties AND start shaming little people who need Rambo-esque guns to feel better. And yes, that would include people like the mother of the shooter, who apparently got a kick out of her time at the range. I’m sure she would re-think the thrill factor if she wasn’t dead. 10 minutes of mindless “ooh, I feel powerful!” is not worth your life, your son’s life, and the lives of 20 + other innocents.

Ironically enough the same christian conservatives indulging in mindless primal gun-hugging rush to judge women who have abortions because they think those women should “control themselves.”

Jay

December 17th, 2012
4:46 pm

CC, you do the reputations of both Christians and conservatives a grave disservice with your posts here. Cease the personal attacks or be banned.

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:46 pm

“We’re laughing at you mike, not with you”

Amen to that? And it’s getting more laughable minute by minute!

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:47 pm

They BOTH suck:

I won’t take the idiot lunacy from you left wing buffoons… I let you have it back 10 fold….

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
4:47 pm

Who will benefit from this horrific tragedy the most?

Gun manufacturers and gun shops because idiots are running around saying that guns will be banned which is not what common sense gun control is about. But then they have been spewing those lies throughout the entire Obama administration from the very top of the NRA leadership.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 17th, 2012
4:48 pm

I asked a question on the last blog and still haven’t found an answer. Who will benefit from this horrific tragedy the most?

Of course you got an answer. Again:

Glock.
Smith & Wesson
Taurus.
Sig Sauer.
Springfield Armory.
Remington.
Winchester.
CZ.
etc…

Chris Salzmann

December 17th, 2012
4:48 pm

Here’s a link to another “Christian Conservative”: Tennessee pastor: Mass shootings because schools teach evolution and ‘how to be a homo’

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/17/tennessee-pastor-mass-shootings-because-schools-teach-evolution-and-how-to-be-a-homo/

Isn’t the Rapture or something coming??? Not soon enough. The world would be a better place without these religious bigots.

getalife

December 17th, 2012
4:48 pm

“You may need to eat more fish…”

Good advice because my triglycerides are bad.

barking frog

December 17th, 2012
4:48 pm

I believe that since assault rifles have committed personal attacks
they should be banned.

Christian Conservative

December 17th, 2012
4:48 pm

Jay:

Well bud you can ban if you wish but you fruit followers attack even more than I do…. I guess its a one way street since you think the way they do…..

Granny Godzilla

December 17th, 2012
4:49 pm

rightwingextreme

December 17th, 2012
4:42 pm

“obama didn’t even oppose a bill preventing the murder of a child who survives abortion ”

Best do some investigation on that….You’re using the
FOX/Landslide! Landslide! talking point.

And it makes you look like an uniformed dullard.

That line is on the same list as WMD’s, Mental Recession, Chrysler closing MI plant….

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 17th, 2012
4:50 pm

Brosephus™

December 17th, 2012
4:50 pm

I asked a question on the last blog and still haven’t found an answer. Who will benefit from this horrific tragedy the most?

Seems like the Religious Right…

How else do you explain the ability to work abortion talking points into an incident that involved adults and 6 and 7 year old kids who were gunned down in a school? I’m still interested to see how you’re going to work premarital sex and gay marriage into this incident? I guess it’s only a matter of time until the message is received from the chatterbrains.

*Matti, sorry for tossing out that week old pepperoni pizza. I won’t do it again, promise. :oops:

JamVet

December 17th, 2012
4:50 pm

Not sure about fruits but Hayzeus did say, “Blessed are the cheesemakers.”

TBs, I guess I missed that beauty! But then I read very little of that misanthrope’s stuff anymore.

The lunatic is straight out of the Old Testament and wants to execute hundreds of thousands of American woman for having abortions.Seriously.

The man is totally, completely, utterly off of his rocker.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 17th, 2012
4:50 pm

The tired “you’re picking on me because I am a conned” card. :roll:

Doggone/GA

December 17th, 2012
4:50 pm

Do we start taking bets on when CC declares vicotory as he backs out of the room?

The other half of your brain.

December 17th, 2012
4:51 pm

Jay, The Masterbaiter, Keep milking it, pretty soon the “TEET” will run dry.