On a melancholy Friday, ‘Paint It, Black’

Watching the Hurricane Sandy relief concert this week, I was reminded again that a rock band that survives more or less intact for 50 years, as the Rolling Stones have now done, is simply outrageous.

Their record becomes more remarkable still when you consider that for much of that time, surviving just one year as a hard-partying Stone was like living 10 years in most other bands. Brian Jones didn’t make it through alive, but somehow the indestructible Keef Richards did. And they really don’t show many signs of slowing down.

Here’s Mick and the boys doing one of my favorites, “Paint It, Black.” Jones plays the sitar on this song, an instrument that he first saw played by George Harrison, who of course learned it from the great Ravi Shankar, who died Tuesday at the age of 92, and who was the father of Nora Jones.

– Jay Bookman

244 comments Add your comment

josef

December 14th, 2012
5:38 pm

Thank you…and, if I may make a suggestion, folks, let’s remember why we come here on Friday. Despite it all, life is good…it may be hard to remember that, but it is…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 14th, 2012
5:39 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 14th, 2012
5:39 pm

godless heathen Christmas has declared war on me

December 14th, 2012
5:39 pm

here, here! josef and Jay.

josef

December 14th, 2012
5:40 pm

godless heathen Christmas has declared war on me

December 14th, 2012
5:41 pm

Good linkee, Kam. That gal will sooth the mind.

josef

December 14th, 2012
5:42 pm

K’chak

Good choice!

Jerome Horwitz

December 14th, 2012
5:43 pm

Jerome Horwitz

December 14th, 2012
5:45 pm

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
5:46 pm

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
5:48 pm

josef

December 14th, 2012
5:49 pm

getalife

here’s the one I thought about you I mentioned the other pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv3wmvXNxL4

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
5:50 pm

Most of us are sad
No one lets it show
I’ve been shadows of myself
How was I to know?

Tell me scarlet sun
what will time allow?
We have brought our children here
Who can save them now?

Weeping woman try to smile
Like the coming dawn
Most of us are sad it’s true
Still we must go on

Love was here today
Oh the sun was bright
I will sing you faraway
Love is here tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI5dJEjDwHo

Look before I leap...

December 14th, 2012
5:50 pm

indigo

December 14th, 2012
5:53 pm

This is an old song which, unfortunately, is all too relevant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntLsElbW9Xo

Soothsayer

December 14th, 2012
5:54 pm

getalife

December 14th, 2012
5:57 pm

I was shocked to see Paul McCartney rock out with Nirvana (did not see that coming).

It was a surreal spectacle and the song is pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnI96ILENrg

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
5:58 pm

I’m not a religious person but dedicate this song to the victims and their loved ones……… May you find peace and solace in the upcoming days and weeks………….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JXFg5KEoXg

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
6:11 pm

Yes Jay, that concert was exhilarating! A night of rock royalty!

Did you catch the unedited Pete Townshend tell the crowd to “have a f&cking beer!” after they ended their set with the song Tea and Theater! And then he told them “You’re doing good work!”

Its only Sandy wasteland…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS1JZOAI-vo

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:18 pm

Jam

Check this one out when you have time to sit back and JAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTKVq3V6qN

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:19 pm

josef

December 14th, 2012
6:19 pm

josef

December 14th, 2012
6:23 pm

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:24 pm

getalife

December 14th, 2012
6:24 pm

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:25 pm

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
6:28 pm

TBs, love The Seeker. (I can relate!).

Its not that easy tonight, but let the FNM festivities play on!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg7HvF3a_Iw

Finn McCool

December 14th, 2012
6:30 pm

Got our first full head of broccoli this week. Maybe this will lighten the mood”\:

Dana Carvey’s audition for SNL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRW27fyvwCs

Dave

December 14th, 2012
6:30 pm

A very appropriate song. I was always a Beatles and Moody Blues guy except for this one and a couple of others. Senior year in high school. Wow am I old; but, I’m alive and too many others aren’t as a result of violence.

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:31 pm

Finn McCool

December 14th, 2012
6:31 pm

Grew our first full head of broccoli would be the correct way to describe it.

josef

December 14th, 2012
6:32 pm

okay, snobs, deep cut the esoteric who all ya want..top 40 and still them at their best, imeoiauo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hje28F-IhLo

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
6:33 pm

Back at ya, TBs.

Entlewhistle goes dark too…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p0m2E7eQKA

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:33 pm

josef

December 14th, 2012
6:34 pm

BOTH
@ 6:31

Great minds…had it pulled up…beat me to it…

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:35 pm

Jam: “Who By the Numbers” is great stuff

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:36 pm

josef

Great selection at 6:32

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
6:36 pm

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:38 pm

godless heathen Christmas has declared war on me

December 14th, 2012
6:40 pm

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:42 pm

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
6:45 pm

TBs, probably their album I know the least. But it sure is good.

And I agree with jo. That and My Generation were the first two Who radio songs that I remember absolutely loving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uswXI4fDYrM

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:49 pm

Common Sense isn't very Common

December 14th, 2012
6:50 pm

If no one has put this up.

For a very sad Friday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm4LSgFv2VY

They BOTH suck

December 14th, 2012
6:57 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O1v_7T6p8U

The crowd at the start of this clip will surely give you a few chuckles as you groove on this awesome tune

Everyone have a great night and an even better weekend

Peace out Bookmanites……..

Later

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
6:58 pm

josef

December 14th, 2012
6:59 pm

ZamVet

Well, if we’re going back to that time…saw this one on the sidebar of your @ 6:45…haven’t heard it a long time…I think it was drug related… :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QexOuH8GS-Y

Erwin's cat

December 14th, 2012
7:01 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvpoiiBW9bc

I used to think this guy was a flash in the pan…but now, not so much

Soothsayer

December 14th, 2012
7:02 pm

josef

December 14th, 2012
7:05 pm

BOTH
@ 6:57

Live at the Shady Pines Rest Home, eh? :-)

Oscar

December 14th, 2012
7:12 pm

josef

December 14th, 2012
7:17 pm

OSCAR

Excellent…

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
7:17 pm

LUCIFER

December 14th, 2012
7:26 pm

Jay … slight correction. It’s Keith Richards, not Keef Richards. No biggie, just saying.

josef

December 14th, 2012
7:29 pm

and now for something completely different…don’t know why it came to mind…it just did

from the 47% to the 1% :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqF28gsYHks

USA Patriot

December 14th, 2012
7:32 pm

Can’t even imagine…..was trying to come with words…..they don’t matter. God bless those little kids!

Matti

December 14th, 2012
7:40 pm

Excellent choice, Mr. Bookman.

:cry:

USA Patriot

December 14th, 2012
7:56 pm

There you go josef…..make it ef’ing political……jackwagon! Look it up! Merry Christmas to you and yours you……..can’t even imagine your line of thinking…….jeepers!

USA Patriot

December 14th, 2012
7:58 pm

josef – take your 47% ++++ and shove it up your 90% a$% – jackwagon!

Corbin Sharpe, Hugging my Grand Kids....

December 14th, 2012
7:59 pm

josef

December 14th, 2012
8:00 pm

USA

For the love of Pete. t*rd in the punchbowl of a FNM, it was done in JEST…do you know what that is? Jeeze, Louise…lighten up… :-)

josef

December 14th, 2012
8:03 pm

USA

And not to get TOO ancestrally uppity on yo tacky a33, but I’m not in that 47%… :-)

Corbin Sharpe, Hugging my Grand Kids....

December 14th, 2012
8:04 pm

wet wiccan

December 14th, 2012
8:05 pm

beyond the door
there’s peace I’m sure
and I know there’ll be
no more tears in heaven

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSbqm7ZK_9s

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
8:10 pm

Corbin, nice calls. I was too young to really appreciate them.

But not this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2WzocbSd2w

getalife

December 14th, 2012
8:14 pm

josef made a con go off with music.

Tip of the hat to josef:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h45WnW0ASFY

josef

December 14th, 2012
8:16 pm

Corbin, Moonbat

Hello…

josef

December 14th, 2012
8:25 pm

getalife

I guess I shoulda been nicer to my waterboy…good help’s hard to find these days… :-)

getalife

December 14th, 2012
8:28 pm

josef,

You are the “evil rich” :)

TaxPayer

December 14th, 2012
8:30 pm

indigo

December 14th, 2012
8:35 pm

josef

but..but..but…but…but…when I did that, you didn’t thing I was just

“in jest”.

josef

December 14th, 2012
8:36 pm

getalife

I may not be that rich…but… :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53BJH1XSckE

josef

December 14th, 2012
8:37 pm

indigo

When you did what…?

USA Patriot

December 14th, 2012
8:38 pm

Ha Ha Ha Ha, typical! Gotcha all hook, line, and…..whatever floats your boat! Love it! Y’all are so predictable!

kayaker 71

December 14th, 2012
8:40 pm

One of my least favorite Stones songs but I agree that their resiliency is something to behold.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 14th, 2012
8:41 pm

Gotcha all hook, line, and….

Yes.

You are such a master baiter

josef

December 14th, 2012
8:42 pm

USA…

Okay, if that’s what you say…whatever floats YOUR boat… :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9xD_sdLeHw

USA Patriot

December 14th, 2012
8:42 pm

josef

December 14th, 2012
8:43 pm

kayaker

I’m convinced they’re the portrait of Dorian Grey on stage….

josef

December 14th, 2012
8:49 pm

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
8:51 pm

Erwin's cat

December 14th, 2012
9:05 pm

was that a sock puppet?

RB from Gwinnett

December 14th, 2012
9:07 pm

We demand there be no Christ in our schools and then we’re shocked when we see what fills the void.

Evil is not the opposite of Christ, its the absence of Christ.

moonbat betty

December 14th, 2012
9:10 pm

josef

December 14th, 2012
9:16 pm

moonbat
@ 9 10

If I had to pick a favorite of his…that would be it…

moonbat betty

December 14th, 2012
9:18 pm

jo, I just happened to stumble across it tonight.

Wasn’t looking for it.

I haven’t heard it in a long time, but struck a chord for some reason.

getalife

December 14th, 2012
9:20 pm

rb,

You have no moral compass with your unhinged behavior this last decade so don’t try that gomer plyle bs here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwfMT7hcF-0

moonbat betty

December 14th, 2012
9:24 pm

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
9:38 pm

AWESOME Johnny Cash clip.

RB, rather than striking out, perhaps you could deal with this tragedy in a healthier way. Your withering animosity of non-believers does not portray your faith in Jesus in a favorable light. It reminds me of Islamic hatred for infidels and the intolerance of cult leaders.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

Love is the answer.

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
9:41 pm

betty, the McCarthyites have always been obsessed with the wrong Lenin. (LOL!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5BBEOjUKrI

moonbat betty

December 14th, 2012
9:42 pm

moonbat betty

December 14th, 2012
9:45 pm

You got that right, JamVet – in both posts.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

December 14th, 2012
10:00 pm

Well, I’m sorta out of my depth with the Rolling Stones and some of these other folks. Heck, I never even heard of the Beatles till I got into Pearl Harbor on a ship from Guam in 1964. So I’ll just stick with redneck songs, like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmPXH_YRV10

Have a good weekend everybody.

josef

December 14th, 2012
10:03 pm

JAY

I know it must have been difficult for you to decide whether or not to give us a FNM thread. I think I can speak for most of us here this p.m. when I say “thank you.” It helped me, at least, to restore some sense of balance.
It was most interesting to listen to what people were linking, knowing that in there somewhere was that horror and humanity at its worst.

AND
Fellow FNM devotees, thank y’all. It was kind of comforting to be able to spend a little time with folks who, well, understand the healing power of music.

GOOD NIGHT

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
10:08 pm

Well said, jonix.

Back at RC with some post Charlie Rich, psychedelic blues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQr-U410JOw

RB from Gwinnett

December 14th, 2012
10:14 pm

Jammie, “Your withering animosity of non-believers does not portray your faith in Jesus in a favorable light”

You are lost my friend. Stop fighting that voice inside you and acknowledge Christ is your Lord and savior. You’ll wake up tomorrow a changed man knowing the full joy of Christ.

RB from Gwinnett

December 14th, 2012
10:28 pm

“It reminds me of Islamic hatred for infidels and the intolerance of cult leaders.”

You are deceived, Jammie. Where the Islamist would have you beheaded for not beleiving, the Christian simply prays for you to believe. If you can’t see the difference in those two, perhaps you have already lost not your head, but your mind.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 14th, 2012
10:29 pm

Stop fighting that voice inside you…

Brother AmVet

Is that voice inside you speaking Hebrew?

moonbat betty

December 14th, 2012
10:33 pm

What’s up Kam?

One more and I may be done.

No – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK23GQo7q6E

RB from Gwinnett

December 14th, 2012
10:35 pm

Kammie, “Is that voice inside you speaking Hebrew?”

Mocking God isn’t going to turn out well for you. Laugh at your own peril, kammie.

getalife

December 14th, 2012
10:36 pm

Perhaps our “leaders” could start setting a better example and show respect for the President Of the United States of America.

I remember after Gifford survived her assassination, they were going to be civil. That lasted about three days.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 14th, 2012
10:37 pm

Robert Brown from Gwinnett

No mocking.

Brother AmVet is Jewish.

Now — ain’t your face tight?

Alex

December 14th, 2012
10:43 pm

@getalife, perhaps this is not a time to think about the President, perhaps…..

RB from Gwinnett

December 14th, 2012
10:50 pm

Brother AmVet is LOST, kammie. As are you. Even Jews believe in God, yet I’ve never once seen Jammie acknowledge his maker. Not once.

You cheer the killing of a million children every year under the guise of “choice” and feign outrage over the murder of 20????? Your beliefs are seriously inconsistent. Look inside, kammie, and admit that inner voice is in conflict with you.

MSM

December 14th, 2012
10:50 pm

Yes, we must think about how Obama can capitalize.

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
10:52 pm

RB, been there done that. Got the Jesus is My Savior t-shirt.

You are a fool because you presume too much. And you think you know what you do not. Your ego and oft stated desire for vengeance toward others are far more convincing than your proclaimed piety.

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. ~Mahatma Gandhi

moonbat betty

December 14th, 2012
10:58 pm

JamVet

December 14th, 2012
10:59 pm

RB, you are disrespectful and churlish.

You knowingly use the one time during the entire blogging week that is off limits – by common understanding and decorum – to leave a big stinking one right in the middle of it.

I’m off to bed but I am not your problem. Liberals are not your problem. Non-believers are not your problem.

You are what you hate.

You are your problem.

Now put that in your reliquary and smoke it.

Sweet dreams.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 14th, 2012
11:00 pm

You cheer the killing of a million children every year under the guise of “choice” and feign outrage over the murder of 20????? Your beliefs are seriously inconsistent. Look inside, kammie, and admit that inner voice is in conflict with you.

Too funny!

The first sixteen years of my life was immersed in the Baptist Church.

Three bible study classes a week.
Three worship services a week.
Choir practice twice a week.
A weekend at Rock Eagle choir competition once a year.
Family supper every Wed. night.
RAs (GAs for girls) once a month
Four revivals every year.
Two weeks of bible school at the beginning of every summer.
Another week at my Grandmother’s church in rural east Ga.
Billy Graham’s crusade every time he came to ATL.

The passive/aggressive guilt trip aboard the shame train that you’re tying to book me on has been tried before by far more competent individuals than you.

RB from Gwinnett

December 14th, 2012
11:00 pm

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. ~Mahatma Gandhi”

Tell that to your Lord, Jammie. Stop focusing on the messenger and take your message straight to the the big man. Tell him what you really think of Him. I’m not he one you have to answer to.

RB from Gwinnett

December 14th, 2012
11:07 pm

“Too funny!”

That’s just plain damn sick. Seek professional help ASAP.

Just damn.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 14th, 2012
11:10 pm

That’s just plain damn sick.

Nope, just plain damn funny.

You trying to school me in the matters of christian faith?

Hilarious.

Black Label

December 14th, 2012
11:17 pm

RB

Your Jesus is looking for LION Christians, not the Lying Christian you know yourself to be….

Live it or leave it but quit being a punk

Black Label

December 14th, 2012
11:21 pm

RB is deep into a bottle and high on self pride and emotionally babbling to others about his God….

Sad and amusing at the same time

Jackie

December 14th, 2012
11:21 pm

It looks like the so-called conservatives are trying to include food stamps, disaster recovery aid for the Northeast USA, union busting in the name of reform (right-to-work) and more attempts at voter restriction, all in the name of “ensuring that there is balance between revenue and expenditures by the Federal government.”

It is breathtaking and stunning that they think people are going to support this, even their supporters.

barking frog

December 14th, 2012
11:30 pm

moonbat betty

December 14th, 2012
11:37 pm

shut your face Black Label.

If RB was a Muslim you’d be saying have tolerance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8AWFf7EAc4

moonbat betty

December 14th, 2012
11:43 pm

Good night a-holes.

I’m going to the nearest Holiday Inn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IukWaNygxJY

Black Label

December 14th, 2012
11:47 pm

Moonbat

You cry much…. You big drunk baby

moonbat betty

December 14th, 2012
11:53 pm

Let me guess…Black Label is most likely Mick?

getalife

December 15th, 2012
12:11 am

“@getalife, perhaps this is not a time to think about the President, perhaps….”

So, stop crying about taking your guns.

getalife

December 15th, 2012
12:16 am

Tell us more about band camp moonbat.

moonbat betty

December 15th, 2012
12:19 am

haha get

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOO4VZeH4-g

I could tell ya, but I’d have to kill ya afterward. lol

getalife

December 15th, 2012
12:25 am

Great video.

My type of music.

Get your blood flowing.

moonbat betty

December 15th, 2012
12:30 am

oh yeah, get.

hopefully, you can circumvent the bs ads:

rock on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkFqg5wAuFk

moonbat betty

December 15th, 2012
12:47 am

stands for decibels

December 15th, 2012
8:04 am

I had other priorities yesterday and couldn’t participate, but Jay, excellent choice.

stands for decibels

December 15th, 2012
8:07 am

Learning, as I did, that the Stones were going to be playing that Sandy relief gig just as I was tuning in for the first time was more than a little shocking.

I guess it’s because I’m old enough to recall a time that when the Stones did anything together as a band, live, it was somewhat epochal. And not this week I saw them crowded aboard a show that was generating buzz on account of a Nirvana (sorta-) reunion.

It’s as it should be I guess, just one of those things.

stands for decibels

December 15th, 2012
8:08 am

As for the 800# gorilla in the room?

Hey, I’ve got an idea. Let’s cry and pray and not actually do anything as a nation about access to weaponry until the next time a score of children are slaughtered, at which time we can cry and pray and not actually do anything as a nation about access to weaponry.

Think that’ll work?

indigo

December 15th, 2012
8:37 am

stands – 8:08

You may be absolutely certain that the Republican Party, NRA and gun manufacturers will move heaven and Earth to see that is exactly what happens.

After all lives are lives but BUSINESS IS BUSINESS. Profit is all that matters.

And, for the Republicans generous funding for election and re-election campaigns is all that really matters.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 15th, 2012
8:43 am

Stands, I said it yesterday and I’ll say it again. Let’s start answering some prayers of the families of victims of this senseless and take sensible steps to reduce gun violence. We don’t need an act of God, we need acts of law and reason.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 15th, 2012
8:44 am

And I posted this on the prior blog but will repost here:

It’s not about penalties. The dealth penalty does not prevent crimes of passion or crimes resulting from mental illness. Its about taking common sense efforts to implement gun safety, to reduce the availability of large clips of ammo, to treat those with mental illness, to increase the ability of law enforcement to stop unlawful gun trafficking, to trace bullets to bring to justice those who use guns for crimes (where they don’t kill themselves). Its not about a single mass murder. Its about repeated gun violence, repeated mass murders, repeated hotheads who pull guns on kids playing music or coming home from the store. Its not about setting up a false sense of security but rather taking steps to do what we can to preclude these events, to observe, to prevent but to realize they may still occur but less frequently and perhaps over time better tools will become available.

And it is stupifying to see the arguments about how some guns were legally possessed so nothing could be done but we can’t change laws because then only guns would be held by criminals, some sort of idiotic Gun Catch-22.

The one thing that is certain. The stupidity of the NRA in putting more guns in the hands of people INCREASES the risks to our families and our children. Its time we talked SENSIBLE policies. Its time we have a debate about what does make sense and stop the stupid pointless retorts that basically we just have to accept this.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 15th, 2012
8:46 am

Mick

December 15th, 2012
8:51 am

Do you remember kindergarten? I do. What a magical time in life, 4 years or so or 48 months.
This really might be a watershed event, the nation needs to turn it eyes on itself and ponder “is this our life?”
Flags at half staff, tears of pain…

JamVet

December 15th, 2012
8:56 am

Wow, woke up this morning with a huge lump on my head. Must have been where RB beat me up with his Bible. LOL.

For such an enraged and pugnacious guy, his religion sure doesn’t seem to bring him much peace or understanding.

Even at this time of year. Maybe this will help…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg7HvF3a_Iw

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 15th, 2012
9:06 am

RB was spouting off some Huckabee last night. Personally I beleive that simple minds seek simple solutions to very complex matters. Spouting off that somehow this was because God has been removed from our schools is not only a misdirection and fails to account for so much, but it gives his poor simple mind an “answer”. It works for him but it does not address reality.

Corbin Sharpe, Hugging my Grand Kids....

December 15th, 2012
9:11 am

Good morning Jam..

I guess the main reason I don’t believe, I can’t believe, is what happened yesterday in Newtown. What God, if He existed would let that happen to children? What is He anyway? A scorekeeper who shouts GOOOAAALLL! when you do something good, but red cards you when you mess up? Does He hand out “attaboys” when you are good, but gives you an “awsh*t” he you are bad? Does one “awsh*t” wipe out all the “attaboys”? I have Grand Kids and Great Grand Kids the ages of those kids and I can only imagine the pain…

I want a Banner flown asking the NRA and all of these other “Gun Rights” nuts “Are These Kids a Human Sacrifice to the God of the Second Amendment?” It’s time we had a serious talk about assault weapons and semi-automatic hand guns. They make lousy hunting weapons and their only reason for existence is to kill people. It has to stop!

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
9:15 am

God has to be invited in. When God is invited OUT by the gub’ment and “Supreme” Court the schools are void of God. The children in the schools are void of God. In to that void comes sin and violence. Then you ask, out of ignorance, why is there so much violence in this world – because you asked God to leave.

RB from Gwinnett

December 15th, 2012
9:15 am

Funny how it was the navy seals who killed Osama, but it was the guns that killed thes children. You can’t have it both ways, libs.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 15th, 2012
9:19 am

Morality, sure pal. SO why are churches and religion failing to do their job on Sundays and outside of schools. But hey if in your simple mind this is the boogeyman, then I hope your God helps you.

Corbin Sharpe, Hugging my Grand Kids....

December 15th, 2012
9:21 am

Morality,
I think I understand now why you have a question mark behind the word “:morality”. It’s because you have none. You are just a tool for the myth.

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
9:22 am

Corbie – You should read and study the Bible before rushing to blame God. God does not cause harm to any one. When you don’t invite God in to your life He cannot enter. God does not pick and chose. You do. You choose to not have God in your life. The Bible says that ignorance of the Word (the Word of God is the Bible) is a dangerous thing. God is LOVE and can do no evil. When you invite God OUT of your life you invite evil in. God cannot help you unless you create the environment for God to enter.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 15th, 2012
9:22 am

It was Seals with guns that killed OBL, its was a person with a mental issue with a gun that killed those children. The common factor is a gun. The uncommon factor is that one was part of an act of stopping a criminal the other was a criminal act.

So you see, RB, your simple minded misdirection is proven wrong and really was immature and childish. Are you getting these “talking points” from a nursery school?

Corbin Sharpe, Hugging my Grand Kids....

December 15th, 2012
9:24 am

RB, The last I looked Osama Bin Laden wasn’t a four year old child. You are a piece of work. Got all that “Christian love” in you, don’t you?

Recon 0311 2533

December 15th, 2012
9:26 am

The NRA doesn’t put guns in the hands of people. The NRA advocates for the rights of law abiding citizens who own firearms legally. This heinous mass murder at Sandy Hook was committed by a mentally deranged individual with evil in his twisted mind. A blogger yesterday made the observation that these crimes of mass murder are committed by people with mental issues. An examination of our mental health systems would be the place to start in order to minimize if not eliminate the mass murder of innocent people and in particular children. People with various mental issues need to identified and included in the data bases of people who should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms. Banning weapons or onerous gun control laws isn’t the answer to this problem. This tragedy yesterday was perpetrated in a state with some of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Georgia is among the states where firearms can be easily purchased so long as one can pass the criminal background check and to the best of my knowledge we haven’t had incidents on the order of Columbine or Sandy Hook. The problem is possession of guns by criminals and mentally unbalanced individuals not gun generally.

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
9:26 am

Keep & Corbin – The Bible says that true believers will be ridiculed by non believers – you have the simple mind……… Obama & the gub’ment won’t save you – they aren’t God.

JamVet

December 15th, 2012
9:28 am

Good morning brother Corbin.

As the irreverent but wonderful George Carlin observed:

Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of sh*t you’d expect from an office temp with a bad attitude.

And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would’ve been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say “this guy”, because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever f*ck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he’s at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn’t give a sh*t. Which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.

I can’t even imagine the horror for those parents and families in Connecticut. And I refuse to take some prurient interest in their suffering. So I will avoid any and all stories about this incident for some time. Until my soul can bear such a load.

It breaks my heart that one well armed deviant can cause so much destruction.

But as a nation addicted to violence and destruction this is our tragic legacy.

There’s a life full of pain and a life full of glee
So you see that the rain doesn’t mean much to me
For I know that it pays making light
of living’s tragedies
Make your days be as bright
Take a few of these, the sweeter memories

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoweUS2lDA

Corbin Sharpe, Hugging my Grand Kids....

December 15th, 2012
9:29 am

Morality,
I don’t want to hear your blather, and for your information I have studied the Bible most of my life. I still renounce it as myth. You believe whatever you want to believe, but I’d rather believe in anything else. Prove to me there is a God. You can’t…you can only “believe”. Would you buy an unseen piece of land in Florida from a stranger? I suspect not. So why would you believe something as fantastic as the existance of a God? It makes no sence to me.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 15th, 2012
9:30 am

Well Morality, so far I have not seen your God stop any bullets or save these children. My understanding is that God gives man a brain with a power to act. So, unlike you, I will use a God-given brain and act with laws and with government to take sensible acts. Please stop posting idiotic buffoonery on a serious subject unless you can actually say something to contribute.

Liberal Pariah

December 15th, 2012
9:31 am

Kam, I am assuming that you are no longer immersed in the Baptist church as described in your post of 11:10pm. If that is true, I would be genuinely interested to know why you turned away, if that is indeed your situation. :-)

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 15th, 2012
9:32 am

Keep: Spouting off that somehow this was because God has been removed from our schools is not only a misdirection and fails to account for so much, but it gives his poor simple mind an “answer”. It works for him but it does not address reality.

Word. Case in point, is this “comeback” by RB –

RB: Funny how it was the navy seals who killed Osama, but it was the guns that killed thes children. You can’t have it both ways, libs.

Simple minds indeed.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 15th, 2012
9:33 am

Recon, Perimeter mall shooting.

Sensible gun laws are not about banning guns. I agree they are about stopping those with criminal backgrounds, terrorists and mentally ill from getting weapons as a part of those sensible laws. The NRA has taken every action to block these sensible laws and steps to act.

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
9:33 am

People kill people ……….. that gun did not kill anyone. A person pulled the trigger. People on drugs kill people. Why don’t you put the blame where it belongs instead of blaming God and guns? Your belief system is warped and misguided. That is because you worship the gub’ment instead of the real creator – God.

YouLibs

December 15th, 2012
9:34 am

People who gird their ego in false piety and use it like a weapon against those who they judge to be less righteous than them are, in my opinion, about the lowest form of human life.

Seriously.

Corbin Sharpe, Hugging my Grand Kids....

December 15th, 2012
9:35 am

No Recon,
The problem with guns is that there are too many of the wrong type of weapon out there and that they have no “waiting period” for the insane.

Assault weapons have no place in a civilian environment.

I have decided that I will support, contribute to, and walk door to door if I have to, to get assault weapons out of our lives once and for all. This kind of tragedy has to stop. All you “Christians”, should be all over that…peace lovers that you are.

RB from Gwinnett

December 15th, 2012
9:38 am

“The common factor is a gun”

No, the common factor is the person behind the gun. In neither case was the gun able to do ANYTHING without the person behind it. Only the man knows the difference between good and evil.

And the simple minded solution is “let’s pass another law”. If you want to go there, the law should be the “evil control bill”. You will never stop these things unless you figure out how to control evil.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
9:39 am

“I have decided that I will support, contribute to, and walk door to door if I have to, to get assault weapons out of our lives once and for all”

and why the vendetta agains a type of gun that wasn’t even used yestereday? That’s the same kind of mindset that attacks Iraq because we were attacked by Saudi Arab citizens. Any vengence is “good” vengence…even when it has nothing to do with the actual crime.

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
9:40 am

God is real – far more real than you. Maybe you are the myth. I have just as much right to speak on here as you and I will not be censored by your ignorant voice. God gives you free will to invite him in or invite him out. If he is invited out don’t blame him for not being there. Blame yourself and the politicians you elected to censor God.

Corbin Sharpe, Hugging my Grand Kids....

December 15th, 2012
9:41 am

No Morality?…YOUR belief system is misguided. Can’t you see that if there were no guns, there would be no trigger to pull? You are a hypocrite.

Someone mentioned yesterday about the incident in China with the guy who slashed 22 children with a knife. Don’t you think that if Mr Adam Lanza had only a knife, someone would have taken the little twerp down? It was the guns he carried that made him “brave”.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 15th, 2012
9:41 am

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 15th, 2012
9:43 am

People kill people ……….. that gun did not kill anyone

Guns don’t kill people.

People WITH guns kill people.

BAN PEOPLE!! :roll:

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
9:43 am

“Don’t you think that if Mr Adam Lanza had only a knife, someone would have taken the little twerp down? ”

and who took down the guy in China? Seems like they were pretty slow off the start if he was able to attack 22 children first.

JamVet

December 15th, 2012
9:43 am

People on drugs kill people.

Yes, including the god drug.

Fortunately, we have relegated most of them to being little more than televangelist carnival barkers in their circus of the demented.

Corbin, you may want to get involved with this organization. There is an amazing woman (again, apparently because most of our “men” are just boys) who runs it…

http://www.csgv.org/

I suspect that they are going to be a the fore of effectively dealing with nightmares like this one…

(Or you could just beat people over the head with a Bible in lieu of actually doing something constructive! LOL…)

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
9:45 am

People on drugs kill people – yet you are alright with legalized drugs and you voted for the Croak -caine Prez.

Corbin Sharpe, Hugging my Grand Kids....

December 15th, 2012
9:47 am

Doggone,
If I could I’d take away every kind of gun out here, but assault weapons are a scourge fit only for the military.
And the report I saw was he carried two semi-automatic hand guns and an “Assault type rifle”.

This is very personal to me for various reasons, one being that I have relatives up there and another is I know of two incidences where children were shot down in Viet Nam. That has stayed with me for all these years and yesterday ripped off the scabs. It has to stop.

TaxPayer

December 15th, 2012
9:48 am

If we outlaw possession of guns by the Party of the Deranged at least Republicans will no longer be legally allowed to own them.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
9:48 am

“People on drugs kill people – yet you are alright with legalized drugs and you voted for the Croak -caine Prez”

so do people on alcohol…shall we try banning alcohol? Again? Because that worked out SO well that last time.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 15th, 2012
9:50 am

Well out of those 22 people in China, not a single one died. Seems the common factor was a human, but the weapon used certainly impacted the outcomes.

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
9:50 am

I don’t beat anyone over the head with The Bible – you are the one beating people over the head with your opinions. If you don’t want to believe then God isn’t beating you over the head to believe….. He gives you free will to decide to invite Him in or out. No one beat you over the head to believe so don’t beat us over the head to not believe. Your opinion is just an opinion – not a fact.

Corbin Sharpe, Hugging my Grand Kids....

December 15th, 2012
9:51 am

I was sure by now that orality would tell me that those 20 kids were better off now because they were in Heaven…What’s up with that Morality, belief system slipping?

Recon 0311 2533

December 15th, 2012
9:51 am

Keep,

I’m familiar with Perimeter Mall I was referring to shootings in schools where public outrage gets much greater coverage because it involves innocent children. The NRA has advocated for a national data base that’s well maintained and includes the groups you mentioned. Of course we need sensible laws but we don’t need restrictions on firearms or accessories such as magazine capacity or ammunition etc. Such restrictions would only create underground trafficing of these items. We haven’t been able to control illegal drugs or once upon a time alcohol, so we would only have the same problem with firearms and related products.

Corbin Sharpe, Hugging my Grand Kids....

December 15th, 2012
9:52 am

“Your opinion is just an opinion – not a fact.

Might sy that’s true for you too…

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
9:53 am

“And the report I saw was he carried two semi-automatic hand guns and an “Assault type rifle”.”

And the report *I* saw said the rifle was found in the CAR.

“If I could I’d take away every kind of gun out here, but assault weapons are a scourge fit only for the military”

And you are letting your personal emotions get in the way of the way of your reasoning ability. You sound just like Filch in Harry Potter after his cat was petrified. “I want so see some PUNISHMENT” Filch didn’t care WHO was punished, and neither do you. You just want to see some PUNISHMENT.

Did you call for all rental trucks to be banned after the Murrough Building was blown up by a truck bomb?

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
9:55 am

Merry Christmas – the Bible says to pray for our leaders – I do not agree with Obama’s philosophy of the expansion of gub’ment – yet I pray for Obama – that God will guide him on the right course – and that he and his family will be safe from harm.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 15th, 2012
9:57 am

Morality: If he is invited out don’t blame him for not being there. Blame yourself and the politicians you elected to censor God.

Here’s thought — What if it was the DEVIL who made these things happen and NOT God? What if the DEVIL influenced all of these killings lately and they had, and this is the radical point here, “absolutely nothing to do with God!”

The bible speaks of The End Of Times, and the Devil, who knows his time is short, is trying to take as many down with him as he can?

Revelation 12:12 : But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.”

The bible speaks of the devil being like a roaring lion seeking to destroy all in his path:

<1 Peter 5:8: Stay alert! Watch out for your great enemy, the devil. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.

We always want to blame GOD when things go wrong, but if you look closely those that do that are following the DEVIL’s plan. We’re blaming God and absolving the devil of his actions.

God had nothing to do with what happened yesterday — give the blame to whom it belongs.
==========

Corbin: It was the guns he carried that made him “brave”

The most astute point yet. Thanks.

Recon 0311 2533

December 15th, 2012
10:00 am

“Corbin: It was the guns he carried that made him “brave”

No, it was his depraved mental condition and the evil in his mind.

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
10:00 am

War on drugs has not worked. War on guns will not work.
Concentrate on police protection for the vulnerable first, then
the public. Metal detectors, i.d.s, and profiling.

Black Label

December 15th, 2012
10:00 am

Morality

You are spewing about God and government, yet the murder rate today is less per capita than it was 100 yrs ago.

How do you reconcile that with the rhetoric you have been spewing? Based on your own reasoning why wouldn’t the murder rate be higher?

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:01 am

“We always want to blame GOD when things go wrong”

That’s not quite what I see. Mostly what I see is blaming God for not preventing it…not for causing it.

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
10:01 am

Corbin – Really – I suggest you understand the Bible better before attempting to quote it – you are spouting things that are not in the Bible. What you are mouthing off about isn’t even in the Bible.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:03 am

“No, it was his depraved mental condition and the evil in his mind”

And “bravery” – with or without quote – has nothing to do with it. Desperate people are not brave. They don’t need to be, they have desperation in it’s place. And it doesn’t matter if their desperation in non-sensical to sane people…they are still desperate.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 15th, 2012
10:04 am

Well out of those 22 people in China, not a single one died. Seems the common factor was a human, but the weapon used certainly impacted the outcomes.

Play it again Sam!! You played it for her, now play it for me!! Excellent point!

RB from Gwinnett

December 15th, 2012
10:04 am

“No Morality?…YOUR belief system is misguided. Can’t you see that if there were no guns, there would be no trigger to pull? You are a hypocrite.”

Exactly, because before guns were invented, nobody was ever killed. It just started with that gun thing.

And where exactly did God promise there would be no death and misery on this earth? Where did he promise he wouldn’t take children home before adulthood?

You sit here demanding gun control out of one side of your mouth because 20 children died while you demand millions be allowed to die through abortions out the other. Talk about hypocrite…

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:07 am

“while you demand millions be allowed to die through abortions out the other.”

Nothing like a good lie to end a rant. And remember is was YOU who said: “Where did he promise he wouldn’t take children home before adulthood?”

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
10:10 am

Again – for God to prevent an event in your life He has to be IN your life. The Bible says there will be trials and tribulations. Why hasn’t your precious gub’ment prevented this tragedy? The reality is that the gub’ment isn’t going to save you. That’s why I have a gun in my house – ’cause those drug addicts that the gub’ment won’t/ can’t control are going DOOR TO DOOR.

Recon 0311 2533

December 15th, 2012
10:13 am

I don’t really want to get into religious discourse here because even though I’m a believer I don’t see this forum as the place for such discussion. No ones mind is going to be changed because blogs are too impersonal. Real quickly though God did not invent sin he only gave man the ability to make choices and man chose to invent sin through the influence of satin. God can stop satin at any point he chooses and that will occur when God determines that the time has come to do so. Until then you can blame the sin of this world along with the grief it brings on satin and people who choose his evil influence.

JamVet

December 15th, 2012
10:14 am

Deranged so-called Christians like the ones here do crack me up. I remember as a boy, when their stranglehold on this country went virtually unchallenged.

Thank god (get it?), we changed all of that.

They just need another good old fashioned genocide to make them feel happy again!

Oh father high in heaven – smile down upon your son
whose busy with his money games – his women and his gun.
Oh Jesus save me!
And the unsung Western hero killed an Indian or three
and made his name in Hollywood
to set the white man free.
Oh Jesus save me!
If Jesus saves – well, He’d better save Himself
from the gory glory seekers who use His name in death.
Oh Jesus save me!
I saw him in the city and on the mountains of the moon
His cross was rather bloody
He could hardly roll His stone.
Oh Jesus save me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7jLiXeFm_E

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
10:16 am

Those on the Obama left don’t believe in censorship – unless you don’t agree with them -then they bring out the THOUGHT POLICE.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:16 am

“I don’t really want to get into religious discourse ”

and then procedes to get into one

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 15th, 2012
10:17 am

DogGone: Mostly what I see is blaming God for not preventing it…not for causing it.

Good point. However, biblically speaking, if God had prevented it, as he has prevented so many things from happening, would man have praised God; or praised his own devices or wit — So that instead of giving God the praise, they gave it to themselves?

I saw this documentary on the Dust Bowl on PBS a few nights ago, (its causes, etc. etc.); and the orator had read a piece from a farmer who had said, “Why did God Allow this to happen?” and it struck me as odd because about 5 minutes before he read that comment from that farmer all those years ago; he was talking about a new man made invention that allowed farmers to (and i can’t remember the exact word), “over plough” fields; and how the guy who invented it was lauded as being a great inventor and a savior to the farmers.

As you know, by ‘over ploughing” the fields, is one of the causes of the Dust Bowl.

Morality?

December 15th, 2012
10:20 am

If you don’t want God in your life he won’t be there but the gub’ment ain’t going to get you to heaven.

Black Label

December 15th, 2012
10:21 am

Morality

No reasoned answer to back up per capita murder rates and your God and government hyperbole, I see

No offense, but already knew facts would trip you up

JamVet

December 15th, 2012
10:22 am

Talking morality with M?/Towncrier is a joke.

Might as well talk celibacy with Heidi Fleiss…

People, what have you done?
Locked him in his golden cage, golden cage
Made him bend to your religion
Him resurrected from the grave, from the grave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kmq9uM4Mq0

RB from Gwinnett

December 15th, 2012
10:22 am

Corbin, that “Beating over the head feeling” is not coming from us, dude. We’re just posting stuff on a blog where you can leave any time you feel like you’re being beat on. That feeling is the Holy Spirit trying to get through to you. It’s same feeling you have when you do something wrong when you know better. It follows you everywhere, Corbin, whether their is a Christian nearby or not. Running from it won’t make you feel any better.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:23 am

“As you know, by ‘over ploughing” the fields, is one of the causes of the Dust Bowl”

As we know NOW. That consequence was not apparent at the time that plow was introduced. It was only AFTER the conditions were studied that it became clear how much it contributed. But it was not the only factor, and one thing I disliked about that series…and I’ve watched it several times – was that it did not also discuss the issue of “clean farming”, which was a significant factor in the Dust Bowl causation also.

At the time, farmers were encouraged to keep their farms “clean” be clearing their fence rows of brush and trees, and to plow their fallow fields before winter to keep weeds from growing. Both of those practices contributed significantly to the ability of the wind to carry topsoil for greater distances. And one of the many things done to alleviate the Dust Bowl conditions was to plant trees, which they DID mention. MILLIONS of trees were planted.

Recon 0311 2533

December 15th, 2012
10:25 am

“and then procedes to get into one”

I see it’s only acceptable when you do so. Got it.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:27 am

“I see it’s only acceptable when you do so. Got it.”

Did I say it was unacceptable? No, I didn’t.

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
10:29 am

How about discussing how high should the fences be? should the doors be
locked or guarded ? can auto locks be installed to stop advances from class
to class ? you know things that can be done, and quickly.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:33 am

“can auto locks be installed to stop advances from class to class ? you know things that can be done, and quickly”

And that would effectively stop first responders from ALSO getting in quickly. Beware unintended consequences.

Recon 0311 2533

December 15th, 2012
10:34 am

you know things that can be done, and quickly.

Well if you take objective steps to solve problems it wouldn’t allow sufficient time for people to pontificate or assign blame.

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
10:36 am

Doggone/GA
And that would effectively stop first responders from ALSO getting in quickly. Beware unintended consequences.
………………………..
and auto responders can’t have auto keys???

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 15th, 2012
10:37 am

I’m going to break down Morality’s comments because there is a inequity in his statements

First — Again – for God to prevent an event in your life He has to be IN your life.

Not true. God watches over the saints as well as the sinners. He knows your heart before YOU even know your heart.

Jeremiah 1:5: — “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”

The Bible says there will be trials and tribulations. Why hasn’t your precious gub’ment prevented this tragedy?

Definition of Government – Noun

The governing body of a nation, state, or community.
The system by which a nation, state, or community is governed

How can a governing body save you from the unexpected? They can put laws into place, they can put people in positions to enforce those laws, but of course, they can’t “save you”.

The reality is that the gub’ment isn’t going to save you. That’s why I have a gun in my house – ’cause those drug addicts that the gub’ment won’t/ can’t control are going DOOR TO DOOR.

So, your true Christianity comes out at last!! IF you are a true believer as you try to proclaim to be, and if you truly believe that your FAITH is going to save you, then why do you need a gun?

Matthew 4:10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’”

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:40 am

“and auto responders can’t have auto keys???”

Certainly, but then you’re talking about possibly up to hundreds of people having one – depending on the size of the city. The more people who have one, the greater the chances of once being lost or stolen…and used to commit a crime.

Yesterday we heard calls for “sensible” discussions. Well, this is what a sensible discussion looks like. Present your ideas and see if they can be beaten down. Because if someone HERE can think of a way around it, then so can someone determined to commit just such an atrocity as occurred yesterday.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:42 am

“Not true. God watches over the saints as well as the sinners”

And Jesus said he came to call sinners, and not saints

indigo

December 15th, 2012
10:42 am

Morality – 9:15

So your “God of love” allowed little children to be murdered because the Supreme Court and Government, all adults, “invited God out”?

Since there is not a shred of evidence God(Gods) even exist, it would take a delusional religious nut like you to believe such a fantastic tale.

Of course, if you have hard scientific evidence your God actually exists, why haven’t you shared this with all of us so we can be true beleivers?

Give us your hard, irrefutable evidence, if you have any. If not, don’t go away mad, just go away.

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
10:45 am

Doggone/GA
Yesterday we heard calls for “sensible” discussions
……………………………………………………..
o.k….back to god, guns and diatribe.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 15th, 2012
10:46 am

Of course, if you have hard scientific evidence your God actually exists, why haven’t you shared this with all of us so we can be true beleivers?

Uh oh!! I’ve seen INdigo do this before!

It’s a trap! Don’t fall in Morality!!

Danger! Danger! Danger! Will Robinson!!

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:46 am

“Give us your hard, irrefutable evidence, if you have any.”

Did you know that even now, after centuries of scientific discoveries, that scientists STILL can’t explain how a cat purrs?

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
10:48 am

Does anyone have proof that God can actually damn America ?

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:51 am

“Does anyone have proof that God can actually damn America ?”

Or even that he will, just because somone of no consequence says he should?

Black Label

December 15th, 2012
10:54 am

Morality spoke directly about God being taken out of schools, etc and a link to murder and tragedies..

When asked to reconcile per capita murder rates of 100 years ago (ie the facts) with today’s per capita rates, he ran as fast as he could.

Nothing against your faith Morality, however it would be nice if you were able to back up your posts when provided the facts you left out.

Oscar

December 15th, 2012
10:54 am

scientists STILL can’t explain how a cat purrs?

++++++++++

They did finally figure out how a bumblebee flies about ten years ago.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 15th, 2012
10:55 am

Lt. Paul Vance of the Connecticut state police said Saturday that the gunman in the mass shooting Friday at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., was not voluntarily allowed into the school but forced his way in.

Oscar

December 15th, 2012
10:57 am

People in the mental health field can identify people who have, like the shooter, personablity disorders, but they can’t predict who will become violent. Only a very small percent do.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
10:58 am

“They did finally figure out how a bumblebee flies about ten years ago”

Did you know that the Air Force is (or at least was) studying how dragonflies fly…to see if they could use that information to improve manned flight?

Oscar

December 15th, 2012
11:02 am

Checked it out on Google. Studies are still being done with other small insects as well – to find a way to improve flight dynamics of planes.

Amazing how much there is we don’t know.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
11:02 am

“People in the mental health field can identify people who have, like the shooter, personablity disorders, but they can’t predict who will become violent”

And that is the problem. As I said yesterday, I heard an interview with a psychiatrist about that and he said the millions of people present the same character “tells” but they don’t all turn out to be mass killers.

Oscar

December 15th, 2012
11:06 am

I grew up in a small town. There were a few older boys there that fit the same description – quiet, remote, odd acting. I was afraid of them but none of them ever became violent.

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
11:06 am

The air force should betold that dragonflies fly by flapping their wings
and to go back to protecting the country using planes developed by
airplane manufacturers.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
11:06 am

“Amazing how much there is we don’t know”

And, of course, amazing how much can’t be scientifically proven. Yet.

Tracy

December 15th, 2012
11:11 am

What kind of idiots want to argue the existence of God on a day like this or any day for that matter?

20 babies loved by 40 parents, countless friends and relatives will never see another sunrise. The community held a vigil at A CHURCH NOT A BLOG.

DISGUSTING!

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
11:13 am

“What kind of idiots want to argue the existence of God on a day like this or any day for that matter?”

Such atrocities have ALWAYS brought out the doubts about God, his existence, and his influence. Why should now be any different?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 15th, 2012
11:14 am

The community held a vigil at A CHURCH NOT A BLOG.

DISGUSTING!

Another travel agent with guilt trip tickets for the shame train.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Oscar

December 15th, 2012
11:18 am

I suppose there was someone around who told Orvill and Wilbur to quit wasting their time and just repair the bicycles that were already built.

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
11:19 am

Tracy
Humans use superstition to deflect fear caused by their vulnerability.
BTW, this is a blog not a church feel free to change locations.

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
11:21 am

Oscar
Orville and Wilbur were operating on their own dime.

Doggone/GA

December 15th, 2012
11:22 am

“Another travel agent with guilt trip tickets for the shame train.”

And I, for one, am not buying what he is selling. We each find solace – if we CAN find solace – in our own way, place and time.

Oscar

December 15th, 2012
11:22 am

It’s also time to talk about how to protect against semi-auto hand guns with magazines that hold up to 20 or so rounds and can be reloaded in a flash. Two of those guns can fire a lot of rounds quickly.

A six shot revolver takes a long time to fire that many rounds.

Brosephus™

December 15th, 2012
11:24 am

When God is invited OUT by the gub’ment and “Supreme” Court the schools are void of God. The children in the schools are void of God.

That’s complete bullsh*t of the most impeccable quality. If you are a believer, then God is everywhere. God has not been invited out of nothing. The Supreme Court and the government has simply said that you can’t force your God onto those who don’t believe in him.

As a Christian, I stand in awe at the mass stupidity and misuse of religion by those who supposedly are believers. If you believe, nobody can take that from you, regardless to what the laws or courts say.

:roll:

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
11:27 am

If you knew uzi as we know uzi
oh, oh, oh what a gun….

St Simons - he-ne-ha

December 15th, 2012
11:27 am

Oscar – “People in the mental health field can identify people who
have, like the shooter, personablity disorders, but they can’t
predict who will become violent.”

Correct. You have no idea how many times A DAY mrsstsimons and
hundreds of others everywhere work frantically to diffuse tortured
minds. She had two incidents yesterday, two squad cars, came
home shaking, in what’s supposed to be the happiest place on earth.
We really have to address and quit ignoring mental health in this
country. That’s all i need to type, i’ve got a 5 yr old.

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
11:31 am

All this insanity has been caused by rock music and it’s practitioners,
also hip hop.

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
11:32 am

also movies and tv..

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
11:32 am

and the Media and the internet….

Brosephus™

December 15th, 2012
11:33 am

The community held a vigil at A CHURCH NOT A BLOG.

DISGUSTING!

Yet, you’re on a BLOG discussing how disgusting that is. Sounds like a serious mental disconnect going on there, Tracy.

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
11:34 am

and the Mayan calendar will……

Brosephus™

December 15th, 2012
11:34 am

frog

That stuff only affects you if you allow it to.

Oscar

December 15th, 2012
11:35 am

Sons of Confederate Veterans

Piece on guns upstairs.

josef

December 15th, 2012
11:35 am

I probably shouldn’t be here on the verandah today, but here I am anyway.

Why are we bringing G-d into it? Because we need answers, I would say. Some would blame G-d. Some would reject, not the concept of G-d, but G-d H-mself. Others would seek solace in G-d. And some, alas, would see this as an opportunity to preach their own beliefs or non beliefs, turning a tragedy that affects all of humanity into a pulpit for their own belief or non belief rather than an event which should bring us together in a soul search for order and meaning.

I am a believer. And, yes, this puts that belief to a test of faith. Luckily, I suppose, my own brand allows me the option to be angry at G-d, to question H-m, to demand answers which, we know nonetheless are not coming from H-m on high, but from within ourselves where G-d resides.

It is natural for us to “go there” especially in times like these. And, yes, this is the place to do it. It is a good thing that we have such a venue.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 15th, 2012
11:35 am

stop your trolling and inciting frog!

Even though you’re very good at it….. :wink:

JamVet

December 15th, 2012
11:45 am

Because some folks is even whiter than me
Some folks is even blacker than me
I got myself caught in the middle somewhere
And that’s just where I want to be

I’m talking about your outside
Talking bout your inside too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm9yB3gAS7o

barking frog

December 15th, 2012
11:46 am

Debbie Do
I’ll talk t’you upstairs

Recon 0311 2533

December 15th, 2012
11:48 am

I don’t know the exact percentage but I would accept as fact that only a small percentage of the mentally ill are actually prone to become mass murderers. None the less I believe anyone whose being treated for a mental issue or has a history should appear in a data base that prohibits them from purchasing or owning a firearm. Additionally, we need to address the more difficult challenge of identifying those who have mental issues but go untreated. Those suspected of mental illness were once a long time ago reported to mental health treatment centers and could be picked up and detained for observation. Society doesn’t allow that anymore because that practice got so far out of control that anybody could report someone who was perfectly healthy but yet be picked up and detained for observation. While we wouldn’t want to return to those times we have to realize that the system for identifying and assisting those with mental problems has become far too lax.

Peope that are "Mentally Sick" Kill w/Guns!

December 16th, 2012
4:05 pm

We NEED to seek HELP for the “Mentally Sick” so they won’t KILL!
Guns do NOT kill… People pull the trigger to KILL!! IF someone WANTS to kill, they will find a way… EX: Knives, strangling, set fire, etc!!!

YES… Evil is not the opposite of Christ, its the absence of Christ!!!