Is Christie’s weight a problem? Unfortunately, it probably is
It’s an uncomfortable question, which means that it’s right in Barbara Walters’ wheelhouse. As she put it to New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie:
For those who can’t watch video, here’s how the exchange goes:
WALTERS: “There are people who say that you couldn’t be president because you are so heavy. What do you say to that?”
CHRISTIE: “It’s ridiculous. I mean, that’s ridiculous. I think people have watched me for a number of weeks in Hurricane Sandy doing 18-hour days, so I don’t really think that would be a problem.”
I’m not so sure that’s true. As Christie acknowledged to Walters, he isn’t merely overweight, he’s seriously overweight. That struck home during last night’s broadcast of the Hurricane Sandy charity concert in New York, which Christie attended. When the camera panned to Christie, standing in a crowd surrounded by other people, the size differential between the governor and those around him was startling.
Some have raised the question of whether Christie’s weight reflects a character flaw or lack of personal discipline, but I’m with the governor on that one: “It’s ridiculous.” That alleged “lack of discipline” doesn’t show up in other aspects of his life, and as Christie aptly noted, it doesn’t affect his work ethic.
It does, however, raise significant health issues. If you look at how George W. Bush visibly aged over his eight-year presidency, and how Barack Obama has aged, the toll taken by the job and the campaigning becomes pretty clear. And unlike Christie, both Bush and Obama are pretty serious about staying in good physical shape. It’s perfectly legitimate, even necessary, to consider health when electing a president, and although Christie has never revealed his actual weight, it’s pretty clear that he would fall in the far right category in the chart below:
There’s also the image issue. Rationally speaking, you cannot judge a person’s character or intelligence by his or her weight or physical attractiveness, but the truth is that we do it all the time, without even thinking about it.
As researchers Lucy Watson and Lucy Johnston write in summarizing scientific studies into the question:
“Attractive people are perceived to be happier, more sociable and more successful than unattractive individuals. Attractive, as compared to unattractive, individuals are judged more highly on academic tasks, are treated more generously when grades are assigned and receive more support. Furthermore, physical attractiveness has been found to affect juror decisions, helping behavior, parents’ attitudes toward their own infants, psychological well-being of adults, status cues, social and professional competence evaluations, level of prestige of a given occupation and employment and job evaluations.”
Given that psychological reality, it’s no surprise that voters tend to gravitate to candidates who look presidential. And in his present physical condition, that is not a test that Christie passes.
– Jay Bookman
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They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
6:53 pm
Kam
No problem. Hope you didn’t get towed or anything. The deck we parked in was $6.00.
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
6:54 pm
Kam
Plus it was kind of a consensus deal in where we went.
Jm
December 13th, 2012
6:55 pm
Bye bye susan rice
Obama got rolled
td
December 13th, 2012
6:56 pm
DannyX
December 13th, 2012
6:50 pm
“I wonder on this issue and most others………………….”
I have not given up hope that td will actually get something right one of these days. His fawning over Karl Rove and unskewed polls was classic.
We’re rooting for you td!
I just recounted my votes over the last 2 election cycles and I am 29 out of 30 in predicting correctly. Can you say the same?
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
6:57 pm
td
Do you really believe that of all the individuals captured from the Iraqi regime that none of them said anything about WMD being shipped to Syria if it actually occurred?
Let me guess, all those who who were directly and indirectly involved in these shipments were all killed before the US invasion………..
If nothing else, thanks for posting on the AJC blogs…. You are one funny dude.
josef
December 13th, 2012
6:59 pm
TD
“The Syria Chemical Weapons Saga: The Staging of a US-NATO Sponsored Humanitarian Disaster?”
and then you say something to the effect of “you libs///”
Where do you get the idea that this is a “lib” thing…lunatic fringe, I’d posit…certainly nothing I’ve seen or heard from liberals…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 13th, 2012
6:59 pm
BOTH
Not towed, but it might have been cheaper.
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
7:00 pm
How could you be 29 out of 30?
You said Romney would win. House would gain seats and Repubs would take control of the Senate.
That only proves you to be disingenuous or just a liar in terms of the numbers you just posted.
Try again. I’m feeling generous, so I will give you anything swing.
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:00 pm
BOTH
Don’t forget that Baathist connection…
getalife
December 13th, 2012
7:00 pm
We learned the lesson of Iraq and trying to stay out of it.
Georgia
December 13th, 2012
7:00 pm
Postcards from the cliff. Rice out. The contours of a deal. Rice. Those dirty rats wanted a head on a plate. And they got it. Deal.
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
7:03 pm
Fabricating WMD “Evidence”: Israeli Covert Operation inside Syria to “Track Chemical Arsenal”
Israel is conducting a covert cross-border operation directed against Syria in liaison with NATO and the Pentagon.
After looking for a “smoking gun” in Iran earlier this year, Israeli special forces are now “tracking” Syria’s “stocks of chemical and biological weapons”, according to The Sunday Times.
“The cross-border operation is part of a secret war to trail Syria’s non-conventional armaments and sabotage their development. ‘For years we’ve known the exact location of Syria’s chemical and biological munitions,’ an Israeli source said, referring to the country’s spy satellites and drones. ‘But in the past week we’ve got signs that munitions have been moved to new locations.’” (Uzi Mahnaimi and Lucy Fisher Israel tracks Syria’s chemical arsenal, The Sunday Times 9 December 2012.)
Everyone recalls the WMD hype prior to launching the war on Iraq. It turned out that the Iraqi WMD threat was an outright fabrication.
Sometimes you reach a point where the best policy is to just “stand down.” I think that time is now for Israel.
stands for decibels
December 13th, 2012
7:04 pm
You seriously want a SOS who’s not smart enough or doesn’t have the backbone to tell the POTUS his story about a youtube video causing the death of an ambassador is stupid? Or did she make up that story? Either way, she told it and she was either part of the lie or was too stupid to question it.
Nobody is so stupid that they actually believe such crap as this. I have to assume you’re just a liar, RB.
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
7:07 pm
“Nobody is so stupid that they actually believe such crap as this. I have to assume you’re just a liar, RB.”
It’s just a form of reasoning AFTER the facts are in…and most people who do it don’t even realize that’s what they are doing. It is, of course, pretty damn dumb…but it’s a common fault.
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
7:08 pm
Those involved in the Iraq WMD propaganda ploy are now applying their skills with a view to fabricating a WMD pretext to intervene in Syria. According to a report from the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies at Tel Aviv University, “Israelis ‘misread’ the Iraqi threat”. In 2003, the BBC wrote on the report’s findings:
Israeli intelligence miscalculated the threat posed by Saddam Hussein […] This contributed to the “false” picture painted by US and British services […]
“Israeli intelligence was a full partner with the US and Britain in developing a false picture of Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction capability,” said the author of the report, retired Brigadier General Shlomo Brom.
“It badly overestimated the Iraqi threat to Israel and reinforced the American and British belief that the weapons existed.”
“From now on, when we present serious data on other countries, like Iran for example, who will treat us seriously?” Israel Radio quoted Israeli left-wing parliamentarian Yossi Sarid as saying. (Israelis ‘misread’ Iraqi threat, BBC,December 5, 2003)
Indeed, who in the world takes this threat seriously?
getalife
December 13th, 2012
7:09 pm
“Well on the way to defeating aq” Panetta.
Time for some peace and prosperity.
Recon 0311 2533
December 13th, 2012
7:11 pm
Christie’s weight problem is a far-left speculative hope. Keep in mind he was elected governor in a blue state, while Hillary Clinton has been elected to nothing. Hillary isn’t exactly svelte and in fact her pant suits kind of reveal a case of thunder thighs, which probably won’t get better as she approaches age 69 in 016. Of course our economic condition under our current administration will by 016 have Democrats running for cover rather than running for office.
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
7:12 pm
josef
I’m not saying that it isn’t out of the realm of possibility, however there were many captured and interrogated in the Iraqi regime. I personally find it difficult to believe that none of them cracked when common sense tells us that the interrogators would be pushing for that exact info during the hundred if not thousands of interrogations that went on for several years.
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
7:12 pm
Time for some peace and prosperity.
Never were truer words ever spoken.
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
7:13 pm
“while Hillary Clinton has been elected to nothing.”
She was given a Senate seat? Tell us about that one. I hadn’t heard. Learn something new every day.
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:15 pm
getalife
Did you happen to catch Fareed Zakaria’s take Sunday on it being time to remove the state of war on terror?
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 13th, 2012
7:15 pm
TBS
Yeah, I was wondering whose ass Del pulled that one out of.
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:17 pm
BOTH
Where did they go? He had them. He used them. Then, they just disappeared? I’m not trying to claim they all went to Syria…but they went somewhere, and I’ve yet to hear a plausible answer (including to Syria) that makes sense to me…
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
7:17 pm
josef
Guess they made it home from “Closet Capers” again……………
Recon 0311 2533
December 13th, 2012
7:18 pm
“She was given a Senate seat?”
Right on there…she wasn’t in any kind of under fire competition like Christie, a Republican running in New Jersey.
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
7:19 pm
“She was given a Senate seat? Tell us about that one. I hadn’t heard. Learn something new every day”
Maybe she got it the same way FDR was “allowed” to serve his last 2 terms.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 13th, 2012
7:19 pm
Del
while Hillary Clinton has been elected to nothing
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
7:20 pm
Next time choose a place that’s got ample free parking, PLEASE!
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:20 pm
COMMON
Where you in last p.m.? Whoo-whee, that chile went on a twirl to make Les Ballets Trockadero de Monte Carlo green with envy!
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
7:21 pm
“Where did they go? He had them. He used them. Then, they just disappeared?”
Nope. They degraded to the point where they were useless as weapons. Nothing last forever.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 13th, 2012
7:21 pm
Del
while Hillary Clinton has been elected to nothing
“She was given a Senate seat?”
Right on there…she wasn’t in any kind of under fire competition like Christie, a Republican running in New Jersey.
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Don’t hurt yourself while turning yourself into a pretzel
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:22 pm
BOTH
Ooops…that @ 7:20 was to you…
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
7:22 pm
Recon
If you look at the last 30 yrs, New Jersey seems to go back and forth with their Governors. So while Christie did pull off an upset to win his election, it isn’t like he was the 1st Republican in governor in numerous years.
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
7:22 pm
While Israel’s secret operation in Syria could conceivably also target Russian scientists, it should be understood that its ultimate objective is to reinforce the intense propaganda campaign pertaining to Syria’s chemical arsenal. This leak in The Sunday Times could be part of the ongoing psychological operation against Syria, with a view to building a pretext for waging a preemptive war on Syria.
Since the beginning of the armed insurrection in March 2011, the US and its allies alongside the Western mainstream media have been blaming the Syrian government for committing atrocities directed against civilians, including the Houla massacre. According to independent media reports as well as the testimony of witnesses on the ground, these atrocities were committed by the US-NATO sponsored opposition forces.
The Syrian government has been demonized to such an extent by the mainstream media that if an attack were to occur, public opinion could easily be led to believe, without evidence, that the Syrian government is responsible for crimes against its own people.
This is a perfect context for a false flag operation or intensive propaganda involving chemical weapons. These allegations based on fake WMD evidence directed against the Syrian government could be used once again to pressure the UN Security Council to give NATO a “legal mandate” to intervene in Syria under the “responsibility to protect” doctrine.
False-flag operation. Where have I heard that term before?
Friends, in case you haven’t figured it out yet, there exists a United States, European, Israeli war archipelago that will not be satisfied until World War III is a reality.
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:23 pm
DOOGONE
Not to argue with that, but even there some evidence should have been found…
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
7:24 pm
josef
Read it this morning and laughed my a$$ off. Seems it was a test of EQs and someone melted…….
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:24 pm
And to further their cause, they blew up the WTC….right?
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
7:25 pm
“Not to argue with that, but even there some evidence should have been found…”
How do you think they know it was degraded?
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
7:26 pm
Where did they go? He had them. He used them. Then, they just disappeared? I’m not trying to claim they all went to Syria…but they went somewhere, and I’ve yet to hear a plausible answer (including to Syria) that makes sense to me…
The so-called gassing of the Kurds, which occurred during the Iran-Iraq war is widely attributed (including the Pentagon) to the Iranians. I can post a link if you like.
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
7:26 pm
josef
Do you know how much he had? Yes he used them. That is fact, but that in itself doesn’t mean he had them before we went in. Some went bad, some was used and there was a huge bluff on what he had as well, imo.
Again, this notion that not one of the top guys caught would have cracked is not that plausible in my mind. Possible yes, but until I see more evidence it is a far fetched theory.
Recon 0311 2533
December 13th, 2012
7:27 pm
Common Nonsense, thanks for your concern but it’s unnecessary. Try to clear your cluttered mind from far-left brainwashing.
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:27 pm
BOTH
It was one of the better ones, I’ll grant it that…
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:30 pm
BOTH
I agree with much of that…I still have my questions about it. I wish I could say something here about why, but I can’t.
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
7:31 pm
It’s easy to see to what extent the posters on this blog have been propagandized.
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:33 pm
SOOTH
“It’s easy to see to what extent the posters on this blog have been propagandized.”
Espejo, espejo?
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
7:36 pm
“It’s easy to see to what extent the posters on this blog have been propagandized.”
I notice you didn’t exclude yourself
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
7:36 pm
[I]mmediately after the battle the United States Defense Intelligence Agency investigated and produced a classified report, which it circulated within the intelligence community on a need-to-know basis. That study asserted that it was Iranian gas that killed the Kurds, not Iraqi gas.
The agency did find that each side used gas against the other in the battle around Halabja. The condition of the dead Kurds’ bodies, however, indicated they had been killed with a blood agent — that is, a cyanide-based gas — which Iran was known to use. The Iraqis, who are thought to have used mustard gas in the battle, are not known to have possessed blood agents at the time.
These facts have long been in the public domain but, extraordinarily, as often as the Halabja affair is cited, they are rarely mentioned. A much-discussed article in The New Yorker last March did not make reference to the Defense Intelligence Agency report or consider that Iranian gas might have killed the Kurds. On the rare occasions the report is brought up, there is usually speculation, with no proof, that it was skewed out of American political favoritism toward Iraq in its war against Iran.
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
7:36 pm
josef
Certainly stranger things have happen. However when one looks at the fact the the US & UK had satellite & drone surveillance and even men on the ground in Iraq before the invasion ( and that doesn’t even count the unmentioned assistance from the Saudis and others in the ME), if it left, I doubt it left in huge quantities if any left at all. That surveillance would have been looking for any “mass movements” of trucks and or equipment along the boarders.
Recon 0311 2533
December 13th, 2012
7:37 pm
TBS,
After a parade of Democrats elected in the state over several years to have a portly straight talking Republican candidate come in and win the governorship in N.J., kind of belies Jay’s biased commentary against fat people. Not very politically correct.
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
7:39 pm
I don’t believe anything I hear on the TEEVEE. I trust the information I get from Global Research. So far, they have not let me down.
Of course, that would require some effort on your parts instead of receiving the spoon-fed pabulum you consume every day.
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:40 pm
BOTH
Pretty much that is my point…there wasn’t much to be officially found…my own personal suspicion is that there probably wasn’t much there to begin with…
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
7:41 pm
The reason I don’t believe anything I hear on the TEEVEE is because everything you hear on the TEEVEE is controlled by 5 corporations which are controlled by Jews which are controlled by Israel. If you want to label that as anti-semitic, so be it. It’s true.
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
7:43 pm
Recon
The article wasn’t that good to be honest. I don’t wish Christie any ill will, but we haven’t had too many portly President’s lately and both sides love to play up image.
I’m just saying that Christie winning NJ isn’t exactly a huge bombshell when looking at the fact that NJ voters seem to go back and forth over the last 30 yrs. Before Christie, it was 8 yrs of Dem. Before that 8 yrs of Repubs and so on.
And let’s be honest, it was John “Crooked” Corzine who was in office before Christie came in.
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
7:43 pm
okay pls forgive me i just thought of this and don’t mean it as bad as it sounds
36% of American Adults are obese,…if he locked up the obese vote he is an easy shoe-in…a lil opposite of Jay’s narrative today…that said…people vote who they identify with…
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
7:44 pm
“but we haven’t had too many portly President’s lately”
Or bald ones. Eisenhower was the last bald President
Recon 0311 2533
December 13th, 2012
7:46 pm
Sooth,
You’re sounding like a radical Islamic jihadist. Stay in hiding and don’t take your guns to town because you wouldn’t make it back.
catlady
December 13th, 2012
7:46 pm
I hope Mr. Christie is able to lose some weight. I have dropped 85 pounds over the last 10 years, and although I have several serious health concerns, several that I have had for years are gone! He would be more effective, in all likelihood.
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
7:46 pm
“36% of American Adults are obese”
Got a cite? Because I could believe that many adults were overweight, but obese is another factor of worse than just overweight.
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
7:47 pm
Del, I think that I am sounding like someone who seeks the truth in this world of spin and lies and ulterior motives. The only gun I have stays here in my home.
Recon 0311 2533
December 13th, 2012
7:49 pm
“Corzine who was in office before Christie came in.”
TBS, you’re correct there and it probably was the reason Christie got elected.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 13th, 2012
7:51 pm
Or bald ones. Eisenhower was the last bald President
Although not completely bald, Nixon was follically challenged.
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:51 pm
This is my rifle, this is my gun, this one’s for shooting, and this one’s for fun…
Recon 0311 2533
December 13th, 2012
7:51 pm
“The only gun I have stays here in my home.”
Sooth, copy that and I’m glad.
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
7:53 pm
Dog
http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
seriously i think they are a minority that gets overlooked and is a lil tired of it…they are vilified for the most part….if he ran it could prove to work to his advantage
josef
December 13th, 2012
7:55 pm
ERWIN’S CAT
That’s true…
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
7:55 pm
“Although not completely bald, Nixon was follically challenged”
Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades!
td
December 13th, 2012
7:56 pm
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
7:00 pm
How could you be 29 out of 30?
You said Romney would win. House would gain seats and Repubs would take control of the Senate.
That only proves you to be disingenuous or just a liar in terms of the numbers you just posted.
Try again. I’m feeling generous, so I will give you anything swing.
If you would read my statement then you would find out that I said “votes”. My vote has predicted the winner correctly 29 out of 30 times during the past two cycles.
As far as predictions, I do not think I ever predicted the US Senate would come back under the control of Republicans (although I was surely hoping) and all I ever said about the House is that there is no way the Dems take back control. Oh, I did predict that the GOP would pick up a house seat (maybe two) in Georgia. I think that one was correct.
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
7:56 pm
Kam I made the same point earlier…going back to the less shallow days is a yellow card
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
7:57 pm
Secret Meeting in London: Plotting to Wage War on Syria without UN Authorization
Britain’s “Duplicity, treachery and infidelity.”
Remember Libya was “not going to be another Iraq” disaster, “lessons have been learned”? Libya’s ruined towns and social structure of course, chillingly resemble Iraq. Now, it is Syria’s turn, but Syria will “not be another Libya”, yes mistakes were made, but lessons have yet again been learned.
Today’s (London) Independent cover story reports the: “plan for (the) international coalition to provide air and naval support, plus military training for the opposition”, commenting that :“Western intervention is now deemed necessary as civil war has reached ‘tipping point’ “ and of course: “Britain, France and US agree ‘no boots on the ground.’ “
This is the outcome of a secret meeting in London recently, hosted by Sir David Richards, who heads Britain’s armed forces. Participants in the scheming were: “the military chiefs of France, Turkey, Jordan, Qatar, the UAE and” (surprise) “a three star American General.” The paper records: “Strategy was discussed at length”, with other UK government Ministries “and their counterparts in allied states” also holding meetings – read plotting another overthrow of massive illegality, of a sovereign leader and government.
“L’Angleterre, ah, la perfide Angleterre …” is an expression regarding Britain believed to go back as far as the 13th century relating to acts of “duplicity, treachery and infidelity” in relations with other nation states, states Wiki neatly.
Prime Minister Cameron is determined to involve Britain in more bloodshed, having learned nothing from his disastrous involvement in Libya – sorry, he is: “ … determined that more should be done by Britain to bring an end to the strife …” That would be a first, and of course Foreign Secretary Hague (“I have been a Conservative Friend of Israel since I was sixteen”) has long been stating that Britain must arm the insurgents and pledging considerable sums to do so.
What a bunch of dumbasses you all are.
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
7:59 pm
EC – I went to that website…it does say they changed the definition of obese, but I wasn’t curious enough to track down what they define it as now. Best I can say is *I* am probably judging that date by the old definition.
Being overweight myself, what I resent is the automatic assumption that if you are overweight you are unhealthy. That is by no means universally true.
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
8:02 pm
“One multi-million dollar question remains, will Russia and China sit quietly on the sidelines and allow another bloodbath and overthrow, having been so comprehensively duped over Libya?”
Indeed this is the question. Will World War III be the result?
Wilbur
December 13th, 2012
8:03 pm
Cheap shot early, Jay. Well done!
Tundra Dude
December 13th, 2012
8:05 pm
JOSEF:
Pretty much that is my point…there wasn’t much to be officially found…my own personal suspicion is that there probably wasn’t much there to begin with…
There was, at one time. The entire list of US suppliers of various substances was published in a German paper.
I choose to believe USAF Lt.Col. K. Kwiatkowski, assigned to the pentagon during this time. She claims the fix was in for Iraq, never mind the intell.
It was well known that 95% of the wmds had already been destroyed or otherwise accounted for, she sez.
As Huffington Post Senior Editor Marc Cooper wrote in a profile of Kwiatkowski for LA Weekly:
(snipped)
Though a lifelong conservative, Kwiatkowski found herself appalled as the radical wing of the Bush administration, including her superiors in the Pentagon planning department, bulldozed internal dissent, overlooked its own intelligence and relentlessly pushed for confrontation with Iraq.
(snip)
“The biggest shock I had in May 2002 was finding that the war plan for invasion of Iraq was in its second draft – it was ready to go. We were ready to invade Iraq in the Spring of 2002″.
josef
December 13th, 2012
8:05 pm
DOGGONE”
I resent is the automatic assumption that if you are overweight you are unhealthy. ”
Me, too…I was always slim (emphasis on WAS
) and could eat like a horse and never put on a pound. Healthy? I doubt it, considering what and how much of it I consumed!
indigo
December 13th, 2012
8:09 pm
Soothsayer – 7:22
If World War III started, it would be an all out nuclear exchange between Russia and America and other countries. The resulting thousands of nuclear explosions would, at best, boot us(those left alive) back to the stone age. At worst, it would exterminate all humanity.
Exactly who are those people in the “archipelago” who are insane enough to want this?
stands for decibels
December 13th, 2012
8:09 pm
It’s just a form of reasoning AFTER the facts are in…and most people who do it don’t even realize that’s what they are doing. It is, of course, pretty damn dumb…but it’s a common fault.
You’re probably right, and I’m probably overreacting.
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
8:10 pm
td
My apologies, but you are in GA…………. How hard is it to vote a straight Republican ticket and your candidate win the majority of times? Vegas wouldn’t have exactly given you great odds since anyone can see what the outcome is going to be.
Good for you that you lean right and want Republicans in office (heck while not voting for all of them, I do vote for some), but not sure how much bragging rights come with voting with the already pretty much known.
You don’t get huge a payback in Vegas to bet that the sun is going to shine tomorrow.
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
8:10 pm
“I was always slim (emphasis on WAS ) and could eat like a horse and never put on a pound”
Same here…but my fibromyalgia restricts what I can do to a MUCH greater degree than my weight does.
stands for decibels
December 13th, 2012
8:11 pm
So all you guys who have posted some variant of
Cheap shot early, Jay. Well done!
Have ANY of you, seriously, *not* considered this particular aspect of Chris Christie’s electoral prospects? Discussed it, even?
Recon 0311 2533
December 13th, 2012
8:11 pm
Indeed this is the question. Will World War III be the result?’
World War lll, will only be a result of American weakness and unfortunately, that can’t be discounted.
josef
December 13th, 2012
8:13 pm
DOGGONE
A funny thing on that “healthy” one…I put on the pounds when I quit smoking…
SFD
I can say that until others brought it up, it never entered my mind…
stands for decibels
December 13th, 2012
8:15 pm
the fix was in for Iraq, never mind the intell.
and herewith another soul searching kinda question:
is there anyone here who didn’t believe that to be the case, in their hearts, before we ever invaded?
I supported the invasion at the time because I figured regime change was a dirty job that needed doing. I was stupid enough to think that our state dept. and military had this figured out, and that it’d be messy, certainly more difficult than the Administration was letting on, but not that much more horrible than, say, Panama.
But I never thought they posed a credible WMD threat, and I don’t think any honest folks who were in the know, at the time, believed it either.
independent thinker
December 13th, 2012
8:15 pm
Chris Christie is very selective onhow he throws his weight around- Just ask Romney!
stands for decibels
December 13th, 2012
8:16 pm
it never entered my mind…
Really? Wow. (I was going to say something about assuming his weight was the 800-pound gorilla in the room, but That Would Be Wrong.)
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
8:16 pm
“A funny thing on that “healthy” one…I put on the pounds when I quit smoking…”
I put them on after I started having migraines. The ONE thing that I could guarantee would trigger one was to be too hungry. It’s hard to lose weight when you are literally TERRIFIED to be hungry.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
December 13th, 2012
8:18 pm
Well, glad to see that guy is 29 out of 30 in voting for the winners in elections. A person like that will never cause us any trouble. He’ll go along to get along. If the majority wants it then it’s good enough for him. If we had more like him we could still be living in the 1850s without a peep of protest.
Have a good night everybody.
stands for decibels
December 13th, 2012
8:20 pm
It’s hard to lose weight when you are literally TERRIFIED to be hungry.
Never heard of that phenomenon before–yes indeed, I’d think it’d be well-nigh impossible to control one’s weight under such circumstances.
josef
December 13th, 2012
8:22 pm
SFD
On Christie…I’m not blind, yet, but it being at issue? No.
As for your take on Iraq…that was much my own opinion at the time. I figured if he did have a stock, he’d used them on the Shia, And I am glad to hear somebody here say that at the time they were not opposed to the Iraqi incursion.
Hindsight? That’s another matter and it is, as we know, 20/20.
josef
December 13th, 2012
8:24 pm
DOGGONE
I had serious migraines before the heart attack and, while I didn’t put on weight from it, I know what you are talking about with the eating…
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
8:25 pm
“Never heard of that phenomenon before–yes indeed, I’d think it’d be well-nigh impossible to control one’s weight under such circumstances”
It is. I had vicious migraines and as I told someone that if I knew for CERTAIN that sex would cure them…I’d walk the streets for that cure.
One thing I cannot fathom is how parents deal with children who get migraines. It’s bad enough when yo are an adult.
Recon 0311 2533
December 13th, 2012
8:26 pm
70 years old 5′11 and weigh in between 168 and 170. Can still run 5 miles, swim laps and lift free weights every other day. Former infantry and recon Marine. I won’t be running for public office though. Semper Fi…I’m out.
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
8:27 pm
Dog
I occasionally have bouts with cluster headaches….i get it
Mick
December 13th, 2012
8:27 pm
recon
**Of course our economic condition under our current administration will by 016 have Democrats running for cover rather than running for office.**
Right…we can go with that because your election forecasting was so on target.
td
December 13th, 2012
8:28 pm
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
8:10 pm
Kind of like the same thing when people go to the polls in the NE or on the west coast with Democrats. Are the odds any better in those states in Vegas?
The few states that were in play voted for Obama for President and put their Republican House members right back in office at the same time. Paul Ryan’s district voted for Obama but put Ryan back in office by a landslide.
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
8:31 pm
“I occasionally have bouts with cluster headaches….i get it”
The worst day I had was when I had 2 migraines at once. Since I had classic migraines, that occur on only one side of your head, if you have a migraine on both sides that’s 2 migraines. They gradually diminished after that and now I haven’t had one in 12 years, and slowly, slowly, my appetite is going back to something more normal. I’m not losing much weight, but I’ve stopped gainind and that’s something.
Recon 0311 2533
December 13th, 2012
8:33 pm
mick,
You’ll probably go to your grave clutching the hammer and sickle. I’m certain you make your comrades proud.
Soothsayer
December 13th, 2012
8:33 pm
Most migraines can be permanently cured with manganese supplementation.
You should never take vitamins containing iron without supplementing manganese.
Likewise, you should never take vitamins containing selenium without supplementing sulfur (MSM).
I know, I suffered from migraines most of my adult life until I learned what I just told you.
josef
December 13th, 2012
8:35 pm
DOGGONE
Folks think I’m trying to be funny when I tell them had I know that the heart attack would signal the end of the migraines, I’d've had one in my teens…I asked my cardiologist about it and he said that there were a lot of factors coming together on it…the meds, closer attention to my overall health, reduction of stress, etc. I used to have them almost weekly, and since the whap, I’ve only had 3. I didn’t have the dual ones, thank G-d…
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
8:37 pm
Dog 7:59
yeah, it’s in there somewhere…my point contrary to Jay…is his weight could work for him especially given that Babbs and Jay are unconsciously or not …vilifying it …i know many with weight issues that are not the result of mainstream ideology of how they got that way….i hope you find a solution to your migraines…unless you’ve had one, you don’t understand it
Mick
December 13th, 2012
8:39 pm
recon
As usual complete nonsense, but then, that is your forte…