In campaign, GOP was simply less competent, efficient
One of the key selling points for Mitt Romney as president was his competence. This was a guy who knew how to run things. As a successful business leader, he had demonstrated the ability to transform an organization to make it operate faster, more efficiently and more effectively, and if given the chance he could do the same in government. That argument was extended to the overall Republican “brand’ as well, with the party selling itself as the party of business, run by people in business suits whose skills and work ethic were honed by free-market competition.
And of course, the primary way in which such claims are tested in the political arena is through the operation of a campaign. So it’s been interesting to see a string of post-election stories along the lines of this piece from The Washington Post:
Senior Republican campaign operatives who gathered over beer last week in Alexandria for a post-election briefing were taken aback by what they were told. A nonpartisan research firm presented data showing that President Obama had far outperformed Mitt Romney in managing the largest single expenditure of the campaign: television advertising.
Romney’s spending decisions on advertising look like “campaign malpractice,” said one person who had reviewed the newly circulated data.
Obama and his allies spent less on advertising than Romney and his allies but got far more — in the number of ads broadcast, in visibility in key markets and in targeting critical demographic groups, such as the working class and younger voters in swing states. As the presidential race entered its final, furious phase, for example, millions of college football fans tuning in to televised games saw repeated ads for Obama but relatively few from the Romney campaign.
All told, from June through Election Day, the Obama campaign and its allies aired about 50,000 more ads than Romney and his allies, according to the research firm’s data.
In other words, judged in terms of cost-effectiveness and efficiency — getting the most bang of out an advertising dollar — the Obama camp clearly outperformed the Romney camp. Other stories have documented the Obama campaign’s superior ability to identify its voters and get them to polls.
The Obama-ites also outperformed the Romney camp in its use of technology, as Ars Technica, a site specializing in the IT world, explains in a piece headlined “How Team Obama’s tech efficiency left Romney IT in dust.”
And as Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight has noted, that advantage shouldn’t be surprising. The Obama camp was able to tap the best and the brightest in the IT field because the IT field as a whole was strongly supportive of the incumbent:
“Among employees who work for Google, Mr. Obama received about $720,000 in itemized contributions this year, compared with only $25,000 for Mr. Romney. That means that Mr. Obama collected almost 97 percent of the money between the two major candidates.
Apple employees gave 91 percent of their dollars to Mr. Obama. At eBay, Mr. Obama received 89 percent of the money from employees.
Over all, among the 10 American-based information technology companies on Fortune’s list of “most admired companies,” Mr. Obama raised 83 percent of the funds between the two major party candidates.
Mr. Obama’s popularity among the staff at these companies holds even for those which are not headquartered in California. About 81 percent of contributions at Microsoft, which is headquartered in Redmond, Wash., went to Mr. Obama. So did 77 percent of those at I.B.M., which is based in Armonk, N.Y.”
To summarize, it would appear that in the 2012 presidential campaign a team of lazy, moochin’ Democratic “47 percenters” led by a lowly “community organizer” (insert snicker here) out-smarted, out-worked, out-adapted, out-teched and out-organized the buttoned-down corporate types led by a captain of American industry. In a campaign that in many ways turned into a contest between Old America and New America, New America proved the more fit competitor and dashed some stereotypes along the way.
– Jay Bookman
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Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer...and got the scars to priove it!
December 13th, 2012
9:03 am
I see Mitt Romney as President Obama’s biggest asset. You just couldn’t figure out you he really was or what he really stood for. All the other stuff was just gravy on the goose.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
December 13th, 2012
9:03 am
Well, we didn’t need no campaign ads. We had Fox News.
So there, Mr. Librul Smartypants.
Have a good Thursday everybody.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:05 am
The advertising measurement is a bit unfair. The Obama campaign had the luxury of knowing that he was the candidate early on, and were able to book airtime at a cheaper rate. Romney had to wait until early summer before he knew that his candidacy was locked in, so wouldn’t be able to take advantage of discounts.
Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer...and got the scars to priove it!
December 13th, 2012
9:05 am
“who he really was”…Stupid keyboard
barking frog
December 13th, 2012
9:07 am
The power of the Blackberry and his fight to keep it. Didn’t even see Mitt
with a cellphone….
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:08 am
“in many ways turned into a contest between Old America and New America, New America proved the more fit competitor and dashed some stereotypes along the way”
I do agree with this. As Darwin noted, you don’t get survival of the STRONGEST, you get survival of the ones who are ADAPTABLE. The longer the GOP continues to play to its core, and to use the same strategy and tactics it’s used in the past, the longer it will continue to fail (at least at the presidential level – they seem a bit more savvy at the congressional level)
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 13th, 2012
9:10 am
Oh so that’s why we lost…ACORN….It’s not that our GOP message is wrong. [snark]
N-GA (economic base jumper)
December 13th, 2012
9:11 am
The Romney campaign was also clueless when it came to customer research and data sampling. You would think that a young zealot with 2 years experience proselytizing in France would know better!
barking frog
December 13th, 2012
9:12 am
Advertising is good but bottom line The Dems got their vote
to the polls and Repubs didn’t. Independents pretty much
didn’t vote.
RB from Gwinnett
December 13th, 2012
9:15 am
Just face the truth…Romney didn’t promise enough people enough stuff in exchange for their vote. That’s pretty much all our elections have become these days.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:15 am
“The power of the Blackberry and his fight to keep it.”
Blackberry???!!! who the hell uses a Blackberry anymore??!!! (tech FAIL)
barking frog
December 13th, 2012
9:17 am
Romney should not have messed with Barney….
barking frog
December 13th, 2012
9:20 am
USinUK
Memory Fail! Obama put up a fight with the Secret Service to keep his
Blackberry after he was elected and it was well publicized. Made his rep
as tech savvy.
Owl
December 13th, 2012
9:22 am
An incumbent winning @51% is not efficient.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 13th, 2012
9:22 am
Ahh there is it… the only failure was that the GOP did not promise enough “free stuff”.
Will the voter fraud claim also surface while we are still on page 1?
The only reason that so many in the GOP base do not recognize how deep in trouble their party truly is and how they are fighting to survive is gerrymandering. But given their extreme acts in MI and other states, there will be a renewed effort to strike back even harder at these extremists and the media savvy used by the Obama campaign will be part of that effort.
Peter
December 13th, 2012
9:22 am
Romney Lied more………. Kind of like Deal. but this was national and the smart folks understood this……as compared to the less educated Georgia voter.
But hey a new Football Stadium is more important in Georgia then Education, and after school programs for children.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 13th, 2012
9:22 am
RB
Go on out and abuse a few of your workers. You’ll feel better I Promise.
Simple Truths
December 13th, 2012
9:23 am
Jay, you are so negative. Why not write the headline “In Campaign, Democrats were simply more competent, efficient”?
JamVet
December 13th, 2012
9:23 am
Hey RB,
Tell me again how everybody but you Republicans are lazy stupid takers, OK?
I love your strategery; it is working out great!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:24 am
barking – 9:20 – reminds me of a friend of mine … had to give up her blackberry kicking and screaming, going to an iPhone … it took her a week before she was hooked.
JamVet
December 13th, 2012
9:25 am
And would somebody tell OWL about this brand new thing we have in this country called the Electoral College? He must be one of those pure democracy Republicans…
alex
December 13th, 2012
9:25 am
Very interesting point, adds fuel to the fire that Obama may have little political capital and his victory was technical and without true substance:turn out the 47% vote and you got it, Jay ,appreciate your honesty . The ? is how could a great organizer like Romney run a poor campaign…perhaps his heart was not really into AKA GW 1 ,second campaign..
Yes, it appears that the most capitalistic tech industry adapted faster than the low tech industry of the repubs–score another victory for Adam Smith, Jay you’re opinion piece is marvelous for capitalistic ears, forward….
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:26 am
“An incumbent winning @51% is not efficient.”
an incumbent winning @ 51% when unemployment is still elevated, when gas prices were still elevated and when you have the FOX brainless wonders banging the Benghazi drum is more than efficient … it’s a WIN.
Jay
December 13th, 2012
9:27 am
Maybe so, Simple. I tweeted this as “Campaign proved modern Democrats run a leaner, smarter business model,” but that was longer than allowed in the headline above.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 13th, 2012
9:28 am
That argument was extended to the overall Republican “brand’ as well, with the party selling itself as the party of business CAPITAL, run by people in business suits CAPITALISTS whose skills RUTHLESSNESS and work ethic GREED were honed by free-market competition CAPITALISM
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
9:28 am
“To summarize, it would appear that in the 2012 presidential campaign a team of lazy, moochin’ Democratic “47 percenters” led by a lowly “community organizer” (insert snicker here) out-smarted, out-worked, out-adapted, out-teched and out-organized the buttoned-down corporate types led by a captain of American industry. In a campaign that in many ways turned into a contest between Old America and New America, New America proved the more fit competitor and dashed some stereotypes along the way.”
And now off the cliff we go! Of those 47% who had not jobs but received government subsidies had all the time to spend getting Obama elected. By the way we are talking about the morons up north and on the east and west coasts. I sure wish you guys here would join them.
MANGLER
December 13th, 2012
9:28 am
I’m pretty sure that writing off almost half of the Country (even if just figuratively) while campaigning was the largest nail in the coffin. Even if you personally disagree with the mindset of that many voters, you can’t simply say “I can’t change their minds, so I’m not talking to them”. I don’t recall the President saying that he didn’t care about the people that would vote the other way no matter what. He was speaking to everyone, even those he knew weren’t listening to him.
N-GA (economic base jumper)
December 13th, 2012
9:28 am
USinUK – By those measures it was a rout!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 13th, 2012
9:28 am
“In campaign, GOP was simply less competent, efficient”
There is some truth in what you say but that certainly has nothing to do with the fact that the GOP was MORE RIGHT for this country.
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
9:29 am
Yep, the GOP did a sloppy job it was obvious.
Yet, let us not forget the REAL bottom line…
The GOP message SUX.
clem
December 13th, 2012
9:29 am
i thought it was because the gop is the party of no (which is pretty negative)
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
9:29 am
“Just face the truth…Romney didn’t promise enough people enough stuff in exchange for their vote. That’s pretty much all our elections have become these days”
RB, I’m willing to consider this proposition. Is there anything to back it up, or is it just snark?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
December 13th, 2012
9:29 am
I think it was perfect, and the cons should stay the same for ‘14 & ‘16
stay the course cons – suck up to the hoarders, hate the gays & the
unemployed, and the immigrants (my fav haha), and by all means stay
all up in people’s bedrooms & private lives, with bibles for jaysus.
Wait just a litttttle longer, it’ll trickle down! tax cuts fer jerb creators
that simultaneously magically increase revenue!
Win-ning!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:30 am
what’s that I see???
jobless claims at a 9-week low??
sweet!
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-13/u-s-stock-futures-drop-before-retail-jobs-figures.html
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
9:30 am
RB from Gwinnett
December 13th, 2012
9:15 am
Of course you are correct, however, the win was sealed up before election. 94% of elections are won by who spends the most…Obama outspent Romney significantly as I understand it..
It’s simply an auction…neither one of them give a flip about us..just re-election or election..offer more stuff, get the votes, play golf…
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
9:31 am
Jay
Quite the interesting piece today. Another opinion piece from the WaPo earlier this year explored something similar but used different terminology to say basically the same thing. Don’t know if you read Meyerson over there, but here’s his take on that.
The rich may be different from you and me, as F. Scott Fitzgerald once noted, but bankers are increasingly different from the rest of the rich. In this year’s election, Wall Street’s campaign contributions and voting patterns, as best we can discern them, bear no resemblance to the contributions and votes from our other most highly paid sectors — particularly high tech.
A cruise through two haunts of the rich — the techies’ Silicon Valley and the banker towns of Connecticut’s Fairfield County — turns up strikingly different voting patterns. President Obama carried Santa Clara County, the epicenter of high tech, by 43 points over Mitt Romney. In such leafy Wall Street burbs as Greenwich and New Canaan, Conn., by contrast, Romney prevailed by 11 and 29 points, respectively. Outside the most banker-dense villages, Romney’s totals plummeted: Obama carried the whole of Fairfield County by 11 points, much as he carried most of the affluent suburbs of New York, San Francisco, Washington and Los Angeles.
[...]
Generalizations are now in order. Obama won overwhelming backing from the most productive and innovative sector of American capitalism. Romney won the backing of finance and casinos, whose contributions to American productivity and well-being are more difficult to discern, and which are industries based on reshuffling resources in games the house almost always wins. Obama, if you will, won the makers; Romney, the takers.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/harold-meyerson-in-this-election-makers-beat-takers/2012/12/04/d672e6f6-3e4d-11e2-ae43-cf491b837f7b_story.html
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:31 am
Applications for jobless benefits fell by 29,000 to 343,000 in the week ended Dec. 8. Economists forecast 369,000 claims. Retail sales in the U.S. rose in November as demand for automobiles rebounded and holiday shoppers snapped up electronics and clothes. Wholesale prices in the U.S. fell more than forecast in November, reflecting the biggest drop in the cost of energy since March 2009.
luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurvly.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 13th, 2012
9:31 am
That argument was extended to the overall Republican “brand’ as well, with the party selling itself as the party of
businessCAPITAL, run by people inbusiness suitsCAPITALISTS whoseskillsRUTHLESSNESS andwork ethicGREED were honed by free-marketcompetitionCAPITALISM.Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
9:33 am
“Yep, the GOP did a sloppy job it was obvious.
Yet, let us not forget the REAL bottom line…
The GOP message SUX.”
Yep, you cant have FREE STUFF all you lives. That message did fail to reach the democratic plantation.
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
9:33 am
All those tech companies ARE from deep blue states – thought I’d just get that out there.
Just Saying..
December 13th, 2012
9:33 am
Owl
December 13th, 2012/9:22 am
“An incumbent winning @51% is not efficient.”
You’re right. Anything over 50%+ 1 is excess…
How’d your guy do with his 1 Billion?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:34 am
Stevie Ray ” the win was sealed up before election. 94% of elections are won by who spends the most…Obama outspent Romney significantly as I understand it..”
wrong
Top 5 presidential candidates
(includes spending by parties and outside groups on their behalf)
Mitt Romney Republican $1 billion
Barack Obama Democrat $931 million
Gary Johnson Libertarian $3.3 million
Jill Stein Green $882,354
Virgil Goode Constitution $93,794
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2012/11/06/who-spent-and-who-gave-the-most-money.html?page=all
Aquagirl
December 13th, 2012
9:34 am
Why not write the headline “In Campaign, Democrats were simply more competent, efficient”?
Because when your mouth writes checks your @$$ can’t cash, that’s the headline you get.
Evel Knievel never got a headline like “Caesars Palace Fountains Simply More Competent, Efficient.”
N-GA (economic base jumper)
December 13th, 2012
9:34 am
@Stevie Ray: Here are a couple of links to campaign spending:
http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance/independent-expenditures/totals
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/index.php
Both suggest Romney outspent Obama.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
9:34 am
I also heard that this was originally going to be Romney’s concession speech…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYKIcnj1MJY#t=00m04s
The campaign couldn’t quite reword it to fit though.
Simple Truths
December 13th, 2012
9:35 am
Jay, I’m calling you out on the allowable length for the title. “In campaign, Dems simply more competent, efficient” would be shorter that what you have.
Day in and day out, you look for ways to slam the other side. Try selling and raising up the ideas of your side. Be positive. It’s almost the holidays.
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
9:36 am
“It’s simply an auction…neither one of them give a flip about us..just re-election or election..offer more stuff, get the votes, play golf…”
Does more campaign cash lead to more support for the message, or does a popular message lead to more campaign cash?
F. Sinkwich
December 13th, 2012
9:36 am
“Obama and his allies spent less on advertising than Romney and his allies but got far more — in the number of ads broadcast, in visibility in key markets and in targeting critical demographic groups, such as the working class and younger voters in swing states.”
I think this vastly understates the reach of O’bozo’s campaign efforts. The effect of the ad buys pales in comparison to the overwhelmingly positive media provided by the MSM (ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WP, etc.).
Add in the anti-Romney bias of the same cretins, it’s a wonder O’bozo didn’t win by a larger margin.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
December 13th, 2012
9:36 am
running a campaign is a perfect skill set for a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER………….
running a venture capital firm is not a perfect skill set for campaigns but for job creation
the Democrat party is well versed in campaign……….. thus that is why the win campaigns without a majority of affiliation
40% of Americans Identify as Independents
Democrats at 31%
Republicans at 27%
The Democratic party with its community organizers and union ties have a very well run campaign machine
The Republican party has been very dumb not to copy their model
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
9:38 am
“running a venture capital firm is not a perfect skill set for campaigns but for
job creationwealth accumulation”Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
9:40 am
“running a campaign is a perfect skill set for a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER………….
running a venture capital firm is not a perfect skill set for campaigns but for job creation”
…they were probably sour, anyway…
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
9:40 am
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
9:33 am
“Yep, the GOP did a sloppy job it was obvious.
Yet, let us not forget the REAL bottom line…
The GOP message SUX.”
Yep, you cant have FREE STUFF all you lives. That message did fail to reach the democratic plantation.
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Democratic Plantation?
That’s one of my favorite piffle-isms.
Georgia
December 13th, 2012
9:40 am
It was the creep factor. Mitt was a creep. Ann was a creep. His rugrats were creeps. The whole episode gave the country the heebee jeebees. Why, I myself got the vapors from debate two and three. The man was unelectable.
JamVet
December 13th, 2012
9:41 am
willie and alex, I hope that you and your loser platitudes about the 47% are around for a long, long time.
I’m counting on you to help the GOP continue in it’s current electoral death spiral…
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
9:41 am
Peter @ 9:22
“Romney Lied mor”
HEADLINE: “Lie of the Year: the Romney campaign’s ad on Jeeps made in China”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/dec/12/lie-year-2012-Romney-Jeeps-China/
Peter
December 13th, 2012
9:43 am
Yep, you cant have FREE STUFF all you lives.
But wait. Deficits don’t matter . and invading another country is important !
Who was the "Real" Mitt Romney?
December 13th, 2012
9:43 am
He changed just like the wind..nobody could figure out how he stood on the major issues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxch-yi14BE
Mike
December 13th, 2012
9:44 am
Somebody find occupations cymbalta.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:45 am
“Yep, you cant have FREE STUFF all you lives.”
okay.
I’ll play.
Show me one campaign quote where Obama promised free stuff.
ONE.
Skip
December 13th, 2012
9:45 am
Cons think 47 is the new 51.
Peter
December 13th, 2012
9:46 am
Brosephus™ . The intelligent voter…. the voter from the states with the best education figured out all the Romney Lies.
The richest counties in America voted for Obama. The poorest states, and with the worst education system, voted for Romney.
Republican’s like to keep their party dummied down.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:47 am
“I think this vastly understates the reach of O’bozo’s campaign efforts. The effect of the ad buys pales in comparison to the overwhelmingly positive media provided by the MSM (ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WP, etc.). ”
bollocks.
moonbat betty
December 13th, 2012
9:47 am
Dems are still gloating a month later?
Perhaps they should get some work done.
Peter
December 13th, 2012
9:47 am
Imagine a Republican in the White House stating “deficits don’t matter ” ? How DUMB is that ?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
9:47 am
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
9:38 am
It would appear that the value of PE, VC and the like elude you.
curious
December 13th, 2012
9:48 am
What’s happening here?
A few weeks ago many of the posters here implied Romney had it locked up.
Peter
December 13th, 2012
9:50 am
A few weeks ago many of the posters here implied Romney had it locked up.
Please these are Georgia Republican’s all Dummied down.
barking frog
December 13th, 2012
9:50 am
Out of this campaign newt was most astute, he said romney was unelectable.
alex
December 13th, 2012
9:52 am
The point of Jays article, Jamvet, is that there well may be no “death spiral” of the GOP message, but more of a technical glitch….You turn out 80% of 47% and you;’ll get more absolute votes than 60% of 53% ( not meant to be absolutely accurate). For me the message needs to evolve also and I am deeelighted to see the repubs and the country turn away from the far right. And Jam as I said yesterday if the far left makes too much of this result, especially in light of the technical issues, the spiral will be their message, just like the Gingrich repubs.. and on goes history…
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:53 am
“Out of this campaign newt was most astute, he said romney was unelectable.”
even a blind pig can find an acorn.
Who was the "Real" Mitt Romney?
December 13th, 2012
9:54 am
A few weeks ago many of the posters here implied Romney had it locked up.
_________
and people like USMC ran away when Romney lost…where is he?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:54 am
“You turn out 80% of 47% and you;’ll get more absolute votes than 60% of 53%”
please, please, PLEASE keep up the 47% message!!!
chicks dig it.
barking frog
December 13th, 2012
9:54 am
USinUK
newt is not blind.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
9:55 am
It would appear that the value of PE, VC and the like elude you.
How so? If one doesn’t have a job now and a PE firm buys a company, trims the fat, and sells for a profit, how does that help the unemployed? If one happens to be employed and lose their job due to the actions of PE and/or VC, now does that help the person out of work? PE and/or VC does not help in either of those cases, yet those who have the money invested wins both times.
Did I get anything wrong so far?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
9:55 am
N-GA (economic base jumper)
December 13th, 2012
9:34 am
You are correct my bad…I was looking only at campaign spending and not total…BO buck the trend what do you know?
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
9:55 am
Romney lost?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:56 am
“and people like USMC ran away when Romney lost…where is he?”
posting under another name, possibly???
Nero, perhaps?
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
9:56 am
Postive media Coverage for Obama?
What planet have you been on ?
http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/romney_report
http://blog.timesunion.com/politicssource/media-bias-study-finds-that-romney-has-gotten-more-favorable-coverage-than-obama-since-first-debate/1978/
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Liberal Media…also on my top ten piffle-isms list
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
9:56 am
Stevie Ray
Don’t get it twisted by thinking that I’m anti PE or VC, as that’s not the case. However, to make a claim that PE or VC is all about job creation is factually incorrect. They are about making money.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:58 am
barking – either he is VERY nearsighted … or he has a thing for whooping cranes
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/289773/thumbs/s-CALLISTA-GINGRICH-NEWT-GINGRICHS-WIFE-large.jpg
oops
December 13th, 2012
10:00 am
this is bravery
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/13/us-usa-unions-michigan-idUSBRE8BC06W20121213
barking frog
December 13th, 2012
10:00 am
USinUK
Well…love is blind and often drunk…
Who was the "Real" Mitt Romney?
December 13th, 2012
10:01 am
One thing that we have learned about Alabama….they were not foolish enough to vote for Newt Gingrich. Georgia and South Carolina gets the honor of voting in “blind faith”!!!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
10:02 am
barking – 10:00 –
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
10:02 am
this is bravery
More like chickensh*t. I find it interesting how the monied people are able to persuade people to vote against their own best interests. When the truth is laid bare, the ensuing chaos will not be a pretty thing to witness.
ITS AL BUSHS"S FAULT
December 13th, 2012
10:02 am
GOP competent ? Remember W…LOL
Mick
December 13th, 2012
10:06 am
Everything is easy after the fact. What if romney had run a more buttoned down campaign and won? He didn’t, he lost. The man with the superior campaign got it done, the right person is still president.
The republican brand is mush, who does it appeal to?
The sore losers can only chortle about free gifts as if another promised tax cut for the wealthy wasn’t???
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:06 am
bravery? yes in the pursuit of stupid, greedy and evil.
but hell it’s your way ain’t it.
F. Sinkwich
December 13th, 2012
10:08 am
Looked at your links, Granny.
First was about the primary — no O’bozo there.
Second confirmed my post.
Granny = Epic Fail
Rightwing Troll
December 13th, 2012
10:09 am
A bunch of lying old cranks living on anonymous blogs do not IT acumen make…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
10:11 am
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
9:55 am
Track records of PE and the like relative to bankruptcy/liquidation mirror general business. You clearly bought into the exception is the rule ruse peddled by the liberal machine.
Isolating PE firms as evil doers was simply a twist since Romney’s background was such. Do you know exactly how many deals went south at Bain?
Most if not all BO’s allegations about Romney’s tenure and track record at Bain…such as outsourcing, vulture capitalist, and the like were labeled 4 pinocchios…like many of Romney’s claims, those posing Romney as some evil doer are crap..since this is a complex cottage industry, it is easy to prey on the 90% of folks who have no idea how these firms operate..
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
10:12 am
FSink – “As Romney gained in the polls in the aftermath of the debate, he got substantially more favorable media coverage: 20 percent positive, 50 percent mixed and 30 percent negative. Obama’s coverage suddenly became more negative. Nearly three times as many Obama-related stories had a negative tone than a positive one: 13 percent positive, 51 percent mixed and 36 percent negative.”
horse races aren’t bias – they’re factual.
deal with it.
Tom Middleton
December 13th, 2012
10:12 am
Well, yes, but let’s not forget the Republicans’ war on women, nonchalance about the Hispanic vote, doubling down on their sacred-but-disproven supply-side economics, disdain for the education and unemployment of certain segments of our society, ignorance of the environment and hatred for peace, and almost total reliance on a region of the country still stuck in the century before last.
I mean, theirs is a party going nowhere fast without massive change, no matter how efficient they maybe can become!
JohnnyReb
December 13th, 2012
10:13 am
I wish you guys would keep up. I have been writing here for weeks Obama won because of his ground game. With that stated again, and confirmed by Jay, here’s this –
“To summarize, it would appear that in the 2012 presidential campaign a team of lazy, moochin’ Democratic “47 percenters” led by a lowly “community organizer” (insert snicker here) out-smarted, out-worked, out-adapted, out-teched and out-organized the buttoned-down corporate types led by a captain of American industry.”
Having fun, Jay, are you? Obviously.
Obama is like a pin-ball when off prompter. I’m not saying he does not have ideas, but clearly someone behind the scenes makes it happen just like they did in the tech sector.
Lastly, a bunch of well healed nerds givng cash and votes to Obama only means it help him win. Just like the Wall Street crowd giving to Mitt, it does not mean the candidates policies are best for America.
Obama is killing the middle class. Anyone with two grey cells to rub together can see that.
Rightwing Troll
December 13th, 2012
10:13 am
“I see Mitt Romney as President Obama’s biggest asset. You just couldn’t figure out you he really was or what he really stood for.”
He had loads of help from the Republican establishment… from the vagina-centric campaigns to the redefinition of rape to cheer leading for economic failure to just the outright lies oft repeated… the republicans drove the masses to the polls not Obama or his supposed “gifts” to the 47%… all of these angry lying old white men gave Obama “gifts” hand over foot.
Dixie Chicks
December 13th, 2012
10:14 am
Where is George W. Bush?
indigo
December 13th, 2012
10:14 am
The key Republican strategy error was in assuming that a majority of voters wanted to “get back to normal” and put a white man in the White House. To their racist minds this was such a certainty that, when Romney lost, their shock and disbelief level was so high that some of them, including many here, still are in a sort of deninal and are clinging to the same old failed ideology.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
10:16 am
Stevie Ray
Answer one simple question. Is the primary or basic motivation for PE/VC groups to create jobs or to make money?
I haven’t bought into anything that isn’t true. Their motivation is no different than the business creator. Nobody goes into those things with the mindset of creating jobs. People do those things to make money. If jobs happen to be created, then so be it, but if you think jobs come before money then you’ve bought into some bogus machination.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 13th, 2012
10:16 am
Obama is like a pin-ball when off prompter
Teleprompter!
2 debates won, but please proceed Governor.
Thomas Heyward Jr
December 13th, 2012
10:16 am
The State, or its mouthpieces, does not like to mention that over 3 quarters of Decent Americans did NOT vote for the “community orginizer”…(enter snark here).
Real men don’t snicker.
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Forward Liberty!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
10:16 am
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
10:02 am
I disagree with the idea that unions are in employees best interest…at least not in the past couple or 3 decades. They earned fees by negotiating post-retiree benefits that no long term pro-forma suggested were sustainable. Unions are a money making racket for those in charge with a long history of corruption. Of course, it’s all the rich folks fault….don’t consider demand, technology and competition…unions are dying breed and hope they RIP
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
10:16 am
Generally the race is the incumbents to lose…so any challenger will have to out spend.
Being the incumbent allows for him to campaign while looking presidential and some “stealth campaigning” on the tax payers dime disguised as presidential business..he gets automatic free exposure…how efficient is that?
Lynnie Gal
December 13th, 2012
10:16 am
“Just face the truth…Romney didn’t promise enough people enough stuff in exchange for their vote. That’s pretty much all our elections have become these days.” RB in Gwinnett is right. Romney didn’t promise enough people enough stuff. He promised 2% a whole lot of stuff–even more tax breaks! –He promised the other 98% of Americans that he would take away their stuff–like their healthcare and education.
JohnnyReb
December 13th, 2012
10:17 am
indigo – what a load of crap you posted. If Obama was a Conservative we would love him as much as you Moonbats.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
10:17 am
Most if not all BO’s allegations about Romney’s tenure and track record at Bain…such as outsourcing, vulture capitalist, and the like were labeled 4 pinocchios
And just what in the Sam Hell does that factoid have to do with anything I said? Did I mention Romney? Bain? Obama?
Geez dude, leave your Obama obsession alone and respond to what’s on the screen.
Hillary 2016
December 13th, 2012
10:18 am
…stay tuned…
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
10:18 am
indigo –
Kool-Aid, it’s what for breakfast
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
10:19 am
“The State, or its mouthpieces, does not like to mention that over 3 quarters of Decent Americans did NOT vote for [Obama]…”
Could we have a link, and a definition of “Decent Americans,” please?
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:20 am
F. Sinkwich
December 13th, 2012
10:08 am
Looked at your links, Granny.
First was about the primary — no O’bozo there.
Second confirmed my post.
Granny = Epic Fail
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Yes the first one is about the primary and how Romney got better coverage than Obama following the primaries.
Congrats..uou can read mostly.
The second states:
As Romney gained in the polls in the aftermath of the debate, he got substantially more favorable media coverage: 20 percent positive, 50 percent mixed and 30 percent negative. Obama’s coverage suddenly became more negative. Nearly three times as many Obama-related stories had a negative tone than a positive one: 13 percent positive, 51 percent mixed and 36 percent negative.
Overall, however, Obama still has received slightly more favorable coverage this year. The reason, Pew discovered, is that much of the TV coverage of the campaign involved polling and the daily “horse race.” Since Obama led for much of the year, much of the positive coverage reflected his advantage in the polls.
Which is not really….”the overwhelmingly positive media provided by the MSM (ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WP, etc.). ”” – where your posting set the goal posts.
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Go back to daming America….you have a talent for that.
JohnnyReb
December 13th, 2012
10:20 am
Good Fight – Obama’s debate performance was well rehearsed; the next thing to a teleprompter. You can always tell when he is going off script. His delivery changes as if he is in a pulpit trying to convince the flock.
alex
December 13th, 2012
10:20 am
Indigo, when all else fails throw the RACE card, read what Jays opinion says, …nothing about race…Come on man get out of the race thing that is so annoying and superficial,, stick to the Jay piece, plenty to chew on there without resorting to the racial crap, you CAN do better…
Judd 2016
December 13th, 2012
10:21 am
…will defeat Mitch McConnell hands down….get ready!
clem
December 13th, 2012
10:21 am
yea, georgie was so smoooooooth
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
10:22 am
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
10:16 am
Why on earth does anyone consider that it is business’ obligation to create jobs? Profit is the only thing that can make future growth possible. PE’s et al are not any more guilty of razing jobs for sh*ts’ and giggles than general business.
BO was uber-successful demonizing all such firms while taking no small amount of cash out the backdoor of same…
Mike
December 13th, 2012
10:22 am
Wealthy Stars are hiding their money from the “Taxman” too, it seems.
http://www.accessatlanta.com/ap/ap/entertainment/pennies-over-patriotism-look-at-tax-averse-stars/nTTxd/
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:23 am
Teleprompter!
Now they’ve hit 3 of my ten favorite piffle-isms.
Democratic Plantation
LIberal Media
Teleprompter
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Is that like touchdown or hole in one or hat trick or something?
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
10:23 am
I disagree with the idea that unions are in employees best interest…at least not in the past couple or 3 decades. They earned fees by negotiating post-retiree benefits that no long term pro-forma suggested were sustainable. Unions are a money making racket for those in charge with a long history of corruption.
Of course you’d disagree with that idea. Your painting of unions show that you’ve completely bought into the stereotype foisted upon this country by the right wing machine. And to think that you portray yourself as some type of middle ground guy.
Funny how you accuse me of beliveing liberal machination and turn around and vomit right wing rhetoric almost word for word from the playbook.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
10:23 am
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:20 am
I submit to you that if Romney got more coverage (who really knows?) it was because he provided the most comedic material…:-)
barking frog
December 13th, 2012
10:24 am
granny godzilla
maybe…trifecta
Judd 2014
December 13th, 2012
10:24 am
Poll: Ashley Judd top Dem choice in Senate race
5:04PM EST December 11. 2012 – Kentucky Democrats have spoken: Ashley Judd is their top choice to face Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell in 2014.
The actress was the Senate candidate of choice for 29% of Democratic primary voters in a new Public Policy Polling survey, easily beating out such experienced politicians as Lt. Gov. Jerry Abramson and Attorney General Jack Conway.
Abramson, the former long-time mayor of Louisville, received 16% support followed by Conway, the Democratic nominee for Senate in 2010, with 15%.
Judd is reportedly seriously considering running for the Senate, according to a Politico report, and has talked to a pollster among other steps.She attended the University of Kentucky, but now lives in Tennessee.
McConnell campaign manager Jesse Benton has warned that the Kentucky Republican will be ready to aggressively push back on any and all comers. The PPP poll showed McConnell would lead Abramson, Conway and Judd, even though the Republican has a low approval rating among Kentucky voters. (McConnell is rated favorably by 37% of Kentucky voters compared to 55% who view him unfavorably.)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/onpolitics/2012/12/11/ashley-judd-senate-kentucky-poll/1761967/
indigo
December 13th, 2012
10:24 am
Johnny Reb – 10;17 “if Obama was a conservative, we would love him”
SURE you would, bubba hoss!!!!
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:24 am
“Why on earth does anyone consider that it is business’ obligation to create jobs?”
Ok, Why on earth should we consumers, who truly drive the economy and are the real job creaters,
ever do business with any firm that does not focus on creating jobs in America?
Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 13th, 2012
10:24 am
Well, well, well. Looks like you Cons and your “media personality getting a beat down by union thugs” was a doctored video created from multiple cameras and across multiple hours:
Unfortunately for Mr. Crowder, a look at the video broadcast on the Sean Hannity show appears to show quite clearly that he left out an important section of the footage when he put together his edit. A section of the Fox News broadcast preserved by the Web site Mediaite shows that Mr. Hannity’s producers at Fox News started the clip five seconds earlier than Mr. Crowder did. What the extra footage reveals is the man who punched Mr. Crowder being knocked to the ground seconds before and then getting up and taking a swing at the comedian.
Mackey adds that there’s another problem: “The still frame he used for the clip’s title image on YouTube, which offers a much clearer image of the man punching him, was obviously shot by a second camera, from an entirely different angle than the rest of the footage he presented of the man hitting him.”
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/13/fox_news_revealed_selective_editing_of_punched_fox_news_contributor/
Busted! Our “media people” are just a lot smarter than your Fox News media people. More prrof of incompetence.
Aquagirl
December 13th, 2012
10:25 am
if Romney got more coverage (who really knows?) it was because he provided the most comedic material…:-)
Sorry… that award clearly goes to Herman Cain.
Mick
December 13th, 2012
10:26 am
Obama is destroying the middle class? I think not, it might have a lot to do with outsourcing or republican fealty to the wealthy at the expense of the middle class…
RB from Gwinnett
December 13th, 2012
10:27 am
“I love your strategery; it is working out great!”
You mean the strategy of actually having the nerve to offer people an opportunity to be successful on their own vs. your strategy of giving them free stuff for their vote? Is that what you mean?
I concede free stuff is more appealing and as more poeple figure out they can vote themselves plunder from the public treasury, we’ll slide down that same slippery slope Greece, Spain, and others have gone down. It’s inevitable, so I hope your peeps enjoy the ride on down cause it ain’t gonna be no picnic.
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:27 am
Stevie Ray
Well I surely though he did…
indigo
December 13th, 2012
10:27 am
Erwin’s cat – 10:18
You like to sit back and make witty remarks.
Hint – your remarks aren’t very witty.
Another hint – you’re actually not very smart. Just another of the many legends in their own minds here.
GT
December 13th, 2012
10:27 am
Jay I love this, it is the positive so many in old America want to ignore.
I have a theory that the right had cloistered itself so completely in its bubble of artificial reality that it was totally off balance when it had to come out on Main Street with the ideas that sounded so good in its cave. Romney had to relaunch his campaigns over and over as his assumptions of where the American public was never matched the polls of which FOX was telling him were left wing propaganda and he was dumb enough to believe FOX had a clue of what was going on.
Adam
December 13th, 2012
10:29 am
Would anyone believe there’s actually a libertarian school of thought now that the Republicans and Democrats are working together to ensure that their chosen candidate gets elected and that the differences and fights between the two parties are nothing more than an elaborate ruse to make us think we have power? Even data like this is just a ruse, just like fossils are really God’s way of testing our faith in the age of the earth.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
10:29 am
Why on earth does anyone consider that it is business’ obligation to create jobs?
Well I’ll be damned…. So you DID NOT read what I posted earlier then when you accused me of falling for liberal stuff then, huh? That’s all I stated earlier, yet you accused me of not knowing the value of PE or VC. The value of those two are irrelevant to the statement that I made, which was more about their PURPOSE. And I still stand with my original statement.
“running a venture capital firm is not a perfect skill set for campaigns but for
job creationwealth accumulation”So, explain to me how that statement is factually incorrect?
guy
December 13th, 2012
10:29 am
Jay, you are correct and obama also knew by increasing welfare,etc. over four years he bought those voters.That was smart. What hurt Romney the most is he promised to put people who need to be working back to work. Kiss of death!
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:29 am
Greece?
Hell no..the GOP wants us to go the way of Chile…..
RB…Do you know that story?
It’s worth a peek.
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
10:29 am
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
9:47 am
“bollocks”
Are you saying that Obama did not get favorable reporting by the massive news media? OMG, that is just unbelievable the lack of comprehension liberals have.
stands for decibels
December 13th, 2012
10:32 am
Romney didn’t promise enough people enough stuff in exchange for their vote. That’s pretty much all our elections have become these days.
I say this sincerely–I really hope that continues to be your party’s take-away from 2012.
Lord Help Us
December 13th, 2012
10:32 am
‘Obama is killing the middle class. Anyone with two grey cells to rub together can see that.’
AH HA! I see the problem. ODS victims have only two grey cells, the rest of us have millions….
oops
December 13th, 2012
10:33 am
the stupid. oh it hurts. it burns…..
http://saportareport.com/blog/2012/12/new-atlanta-falcons-stadium-can-be-a-catalyst-to-improve-nearby-communities/
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
10:33 am
indigo – You like to sit back and make witty remarks
while you sit back and make mindless racially charged remarks…
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
10:34 am
““Why on earth does anyone consider that it is business’ obligation to create jobs?”
Ok, Why on earth should we consumers, who truly drive the economy and are the real job creaters,
ever do business with any firm that does not focus on creating jobs in America?”
This is a liberal/socialist comprehension of capitalism. It is worse up north and on the east and west coast.
weetamoe
December 13th, 2012
10:34 am
There is no way a competent businessman can win a political contest against a ruthless thug. Especially when said ruthless thug enlists media folk to spread such smears as the *war on women.* Democrat senator Bobby Menendez punches a woman reporter in the face, but lalala–not significant. Democrat representative Jim Moran’s election fraud ennabler son smashes his girlfriend’s face into a garbage can –but lalala-not significant. Chicago law dean says Obama is no intellectual but has merely learned to ape the mannerisms of an intellectual. But lalala–he acts the part…pretty well… so it works.
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:34 am
Are you saying that Obama did not get favorable reporting by the massive news media?
Asks williebkind
Answer:
When he deserved it, and your problem with that is?
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
10:35 am
Erwin’s cat
December 13th, 2012
10:33 am
There! You got that race card out fast.
Biden 2016
December 13th, 2012
10:35 am
tune in soon
Thomas Heyward Jr
December 13th, 2012
10:36 am
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
10:19 am
“The State, or its mouthpieces, does not like to mention that over 3 quarters of Decent Americans did NOT vote for [Obama]…”
Could we have a link, and a definition of “Decent Americans,” please?
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If you’re over the age of 10 and still need a definition of decency……chances are, you’re not.
Decency certainly doesn’t have anything to do with torture, assacinating 16 year-old Americans boys (or anybody for that matter), lying, and/or theft by coercion/violence.
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It’s never too late to reform though.
Try reading some Rothbard or Thoreau or something along those lines.
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Hope that helps.
GT
December 13th, 2012
10:37 am
Guy, love the thought that Obama bought votes from a supporter of the super pac introduced and supported by your party. We spent one billion dollars apiece on this election thanks to your paranoia that the American people could not think for themselves and needed some undisclosed wisdom from the right. How that work for you?
stands for decibels
December 13th, 2012
10:37 am
Are you saying that Obama did not get favorable reporting by the massive news media?
Not that you asked me, but–Obama received what one generally expects of an incumbent president. A challenger always has to work a bit harder to overcome the incumbent’s bully pulpit.
That is an accurate take on the media coverage of 2012. To go further and repeat the conservative meme that the corporate media was slobberingly favorable in their treatment of a fellow liberal only makes one sound foolish, especially a month after the election when one’s emotions should be well in check.
I could offer dozens of counter-examples–the most obvious being the media’s fixation with national polls that had it fairly close, even though the actual electoral vote race had been pretty much in the bag for Obama from early summer on, and he had enough of a margin for it not to matter much if (say) Ohio looked to be tightening.
Were you to read the headline and a graf or two of a lot of those stories, however, you’d think that Team Obama were running for their lives.
Aquagirl
December 13th, 2012
10:38 am
Hint – your remarks aren’t very witty.
Really? I cracked up at his(?) 9:55.
I can’t believe I’m defending the poster who committed Hasselhoff assaults on my person. I’m gonna go lie down.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
10:39 am
There is no way a competent businessman can win a political contest against a ruthless thug.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama a thug???? Mr. Roll over President????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwoTcwpQ1N8
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:40 am
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
10:34 am
““Why on earth does anyone consider that it is business’ obligation to create jobs?”
Ok, Why on earth should we consumers, who truly drive the economy and are the real job creaters,
ever do business with any firm that does not focus on creating jobs in America?”
This is a liberal/socialist comprehension of capitalism. It is worse up north and on the east and west coast.
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Yep all us liberal socialists are Christmas shopping.
It’s great to be an American job creator no matter what compass point one calls home.
It’s even better not to be the bucket holder for the oligarchs and their trickle down.
hope you’re wearing latex gloves, son.
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
10:40 am
Williebkind – There! You got that race card out fast.
I guessed you missed indigo’s 10:14
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
10:42 am
0311 — “There is some truth in what you say but that certainly has nothing to do with the fact that the GOP was MORE RIGHT for this country.”
How TERRIBLE for you that other Americans didn’t agree with you.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
10:42 am
“The State, or its mouthpieces, does not like to mention that over 3 quarters of Decent Americans did NOT vote for the “community orginizer””
considering he won with 51% of the vote, where do you get 75% of decent americans???
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
10:42 am
EC
Be kind to Williebkind. He misses lots of things. Bless his heart.
Scuba Steve
December 13th, 2012
10:43 am
You guys have GOT to be kidding with this “promised free stuff” garbage.
This is just sad at this point. Your party is going nowhere if you can’t even own a sound defeat. How about we try the following: your strategy, message, social positions, ability to relate, and RAMPANT foot-in-mouth disease.
Mark in mid-town
December 13th, 2012
10:43 am
Mitt Romney was not a good candidate and his strategy was abysmal. That said, had the msm put the same spin on the same data as they would had if a Republican was in office, then no way would Romney have lost. That’s the basic problem the Republican Party has going forward. Dominating in talk radio and having Fox News and the WSJ Editorial Page as well as having a couple of Think Tanks is no longer enough to even remotely counter the near complete control the Democratic Party and the liberal establishment have over other institutions, such as news, entertainment and academia. The Republicans thought they could spend massively on campaign commericals to overcome this or neutralize this, but that doesn’t work anymore. People tune out commercials, unless the msm creates a parallel narrative in support of such advertising. Which is what the msm did in the case of Obama’s negative commercials on Romney. Whereas, with regard to commercials Romeny Campaign and support groups would run, the msm narrative was how they were nothing but lies paid for by billionaires who didn’t want to pay their “fair” share.
Logical Dude
December 13th, 2012
10:44 am
Hi Jay,
So, it wasn’t that people voted their conscience and put the better guy into office, it’s because a few campaigners were incompetent on the losing side? Is that what this post is trying to say? Because that’s how I’m reading it.
“Who cares who the better candidate is, it doesn’t matter one whit. It’s about who spends money most effectively.”
Oh, okay.
DannyX
December 13th, 2012
10:44 am
“You mean the strategy of actually having the nerve to offer people an opportunity to be successful on their own vs. your strategy of giving them free stuff for their vote? Is that what you mean?”
In the mean time, in actual reality, as Jay pointed out, employees of high tech giants were giving to Obama, not Romney. The producers of modern culture were busy getting Obama re-elected. Meanwhile Fox News and Romney were talking about moochers, they still don’t know what hit them.
Lord Help Us
December 13th, 2012
10:44 am
‘Be kind to Williebkind. He misses lots of things.’
He was piffled on as a child…
GT
December 13th, 2012
10:44 am
stands for decibels, you nailed it. The right just tested positive that they really don’t have a molecule of sense on where this country is what it needs or really even cares. They pay big bucks just to listen to themselves talk.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
10:45 am
S. Truths — “Day in and day out, you look for ways to slam the other side. Try selling and raising up the ideas of your side. Be positive. It’s almost the holidays.”
If you want that so badly, then get your own side working on it first, then.
deegee
December 13th, 2012
10:45 am
Romney was like your grandfather trying to set up a new electronic device.
My 30 year old, card carrying republican nephew who despises Obama proudly shared with us on Saturday how he avoids paying state income tax in Georgia where he resides.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
10:46 am
“Sorry… that award clearly goes to Herman Cain.”
with Gov. “Ummmmmm …. Uhhhhhhhhh” Perry as a close second.
Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 13th, 2012
10:46 am
barking – either he is VERY nearsighted … or he has a thing for whooping cranes
I can speak from first hand experience that The Newt has a thing for breasts. He was at a book signing in a bookstore I was working in in college and he would just stare and stare and stare. Got busted? Hey, no problemo. We got a good laugh out of it.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
10:47 am
M. Betty — “Dems are still gloating a month later? Perhaps they should get some work done.”
Perhaps cons should stop whining and looking for bulldada explanations for why they lost.
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
10:48 am
Aquagirl – I owe a free hoff pass
RB from Gwinnett
December 13th, 2012
10:49 am
“Yep all us liberal socialists are Christmas shopping.”
Why exactly is it you Christian haters celebrate Christmas anyway? Shouldn’t you just go to work like you do every other day (no pun intended…) and pretend that whole Christ child thing never happened and is just for weak minds or whatever other hatred you’re spewing on Christains that day?
Scuba Steve
December 13th, 2012
10:49 am
Honestly how often did we hear from Limbaugh, et al. that alleged left-leaning pollsters were “pretending that the 2010 elections never happened.”
Now, they seem intent on pretending that the actual, tangible RESULTS of the 2012 election never happened! That there is nothing for them to have learned. WHAT is going on here?
Whatever
December 13th, 2012
10:49 am
Why does the media keep putting up the left and right nutcases? Why can’t we get some regular folks from each side to discuss things on the news?
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/belafonte-advice-to-obama-imprison-opposition-like-a-third-world-dictator-video/
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
10:49 am
“Obama’s debate performance was well rehearsed; the next thing to a teleprompter.”
You just stretched that meme so far, it broke. I hope the recoil didn’t hurt.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
10:49 am
“Are you saying that Obama did not get favorable reporting by the massive news media? OMG, that is just unbelievable the lack of comprehension liberals have.”
Sorry, but the facts simply don’t back up your thesis. The majority of “biased” articles favored Romney. “horse race” articles don’t count as they are fact-based (and, frankly, very few of those would favor Obama as the majority of coverage talked about how tight the race was)
hate to burst your bubble, but the facts simply don’t support you.
Aquagirl
December 13th, 2012
10:50 am
with Gov. “Ummmmmm …. Uhhhhhhhhh” Perry as a close second.
Wow, I’d forgotten all about his Brokeback Mtn. ad too. Upon further review, it’s impossible to pick the Republican candidate who provided the biggest laughs among such an embarrassment of riches.
barking frog
December 13th, 2012
10:51 am
The way to succeed in politics is when you lose, own your defeat, fix your
mistakes and go back to the ground to improve your base. What about this
do the Republicans not understand? Maybe they have confused politics with
religion. If so they better start praying for 2014…
Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 13th, 2012
10:52 am
pretend that whole Christ child thing never happened and is just for weak minds or whatever other hatred you’re spewing on Christains that day?
Pretend?? LOL
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
10:52 am
And, more to the point, fewer people are actually GETTING their news from traditional sources, according to Pew:
As the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press pointed out last week, digital news has surpassed radio and newspapers and is quickly catching up to television. Social networks are soaring as a source of news, and since 2010, the report said, “there has been a sharp decline in the proportion of Americans who got news yesterday only from a traditional news platform — from 40 percent then to 33 percent currently.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/01/business/media/challenging-the-claims-of-media-bias-the-media-equation.html?_r=0
alex
December 13th, 2012
10:52 am
@Gt, Don’t know about molecules or quarks, but confirmation bias on the right was definitely an issue as it is on the left between Granny and Danny and you and jamvet and brosephus and…….Jay and ….
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
10:54 am
“Why exactly is it you Christian haters celebrate Christmas anyway?”
if it wasn’t for hyperbole, you wouldn’t have any bole at all.
besides, some of us celebrate the solstice / mid-winter festival as our pagan forbears did before us …
“Shouldn’t you just go to work like you do every other day (no pun intended…)”
no pun taken … since there wasn’t one.
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
10:54 am
“considering he won with 51% of the vote, where do you get 75% of decent americans???”
Well, there’s all those children who are decent Americans. Of course, children can’t vote…but don’t let FACTS spoil a good rant!
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
10:54 am
S. Ray — “Why on earth does anyone consider that it is business’ obligation to create jobs?”
I’ll tell you why.
Because it’s government’s and society’s obligation to PARTICIPATE IN AND SUSTAIN the economy that makes it possible for business to realize profit. It is therefore business’ obligation to provide employment for citizens and tax revenue for government in order that THEY may continue to fulfill their part of the bargain.
In short, society puts labor and economic activity into the equation. Business is thereby obligated to put JOBS in there as well.
I have no problem extending tax breaks to companies that create jobs and hire Americans to fill them. And I have no problem imposing punitive taxation on companies that offshore jobs or move their operations overseas. If you want the benefit of American society, American workers, American defense, American transport and infrastructure, then you’d better pony up some freakin’ AMERICAN JOBS.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
10:55 am
“I can speak from first hand experience that The Newt has a thing for breasts.”
poor choice of words, there, Finneus.
GT
December 13th, 2012
10:55 am
Obama is thinking faster on this cliff event too. The Republicans have dully boxed themselves in with their false assumptions, mainly to gain polar opposite positions from the Democrats who cleverly have taken the positions of the public at large.
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
10:55 am
USinUK@ 10:52- I noticed last election that the left was far more savvy with the internet and social media…a big plus and draw for the young voter for sure…I think the right is just now getting on “myspace”
Thomas
December 13th, 2012
10:55 am
Losing a campaign to Bush or Obama is like being swept by the Cubs on your own field. Would strongly suggest changing a number of things on the team.
getalife
December 13th, 2012
10:55 am
Another slow news day so we get another thread on the failed gop party.
They are losers.
Nuff said.
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:56 am
RB from Gwinnett
December 13th, 2012
10:49 am
“Yep all us liberal socialists are Christmas shopping.”
Why exactly is it you Christian haters celebrate Christmas anyway? Shouldn’t you just go to work like you do every other day (no pun intended…) and pretend that whole Christ child thing never happened and is just for weak minds or whatever other hatred you’re spewing on Christains that day?
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RD, you remain one of the silliest creatures I know,,,and I know alot of 12 year old girls.
That said….the Christian hater thing is so much balderdash.
We don’t hate Christians. I don’t hate Christians, I am a follower of the fisherman myself….
We have a deep disdain of and lack of trust in faux christians, yellow christians and
crucifix on their sleeve christians.
The question is , why don’t you?
Thomas Heyward Jr
December 13th, 2012
10:56 am
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
10:42 am
“The State, or its mouthpieces, does not like to mention that over 3 quarters of Decent Americans did NOT vote for the “community orginizer””
considering he won with 51% of the vote, where do you get 75% of decent americans???
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Do you REALLY need that explained?
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Even if you believe .gov figures……. 60 million voted for the “community orginizer”.
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Last census 311 million in America.
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
10:56 am
“Mr. Crowder did. What the extra footage reveals is the man who punched Mr. Crowder being knocked to the ground seconds before and then getting up and taking a swing at the comedian.”
Liberal reporting again. The video, liberals use videos for all sorts of purposes, show pushing and shoving by many people because of tearing down the tent. You guy got up swinging. Finn you are a disgrace to a free society.
DannyX
December 13th, 2012
10:56 am
“…and pretend that whole Christ child thing never happened and is just for weak minds or whatever other hatred you’re spewing on Christains that day?”
Speaking of pretend… How about all the pretend Republican Christians like RB that pretend Jesus was for the rich.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
10:57 am
Mark in Mid-Town — “Mitt Romney was not a good candidate and his strategy was abysmal.”
SNIP
After that point, tl;dr.
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
10:57 am
“What hurt Romney the most is he promised to put people who need to be working back to work”
Link, please?
Scuba Steve
December 13th, 2012
10:57 am
Ha, don’t bring the Cubs into this Thomas, they have it hard enough as it is.
Mick
December 13th, 2012
10:58 am
rb
You deal in sterotypes and misinformation.
A con back during our revolutionary war would have been on the side of the british crown. Progressives are what made this country great and there were many republicans in the past that contributed.
You side with the robber barons whom teddy roosevelt vanquished more than a century ago. Today’s brand of wealthy elites have a lot more technological weapons at their disposal, the republican party and their core are truly regressives, your brand is going the way of the hostess twinkie…
GT
December 13th, 2012
10:58 am
Alex being correct is not always a bias, sometimes it actually comes from being smarter.
RB from Gwinnett
December 13th, 2012
10:58 am
Lynnie, “He promised the other 98% of Americans that he would take away their stuff–like their healthcare and education.”
Yep Lynnie, that exactly what he wanted to do, take away everybody’s healthcare, close all hospitals, doctors offices, dentist offices, OG/GYN offices, pretty much all of them. No healtcare for ANYBODY. And don’t get us started on schools, Lynnie. Did you see the ad where he promised to close all schools from daycares right through the Ivy League? Wasn’t that an awesome plan?!!! Not sure how he was going to pull off the home school ban, but what a brilliant idea, don’t you think?!!!
Idiot.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
10:59 am
RB — “Why exactly is it you Christian haters”
I don’t hate christians any more than I hate any other kind of theist.
I *intensely dislike* jackasses like you, though, but your religion doesn’t enter into that.
“celebrate Christmas anyway?”
Building’s locked that day. Can’t get in. (laughing)
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
10:59 am
“Well, there’s all those children who are decent Americans. Of course, children can’t vote…but don’t let FACTS spoil a good rant!”
seriously – I’d really like to know who the “decent Americans” are … because there doesn’t seem to be a lot of them if 75% of them turned out for Romney and he still lost …
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
10:59 am
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:56 am
I do Granny but I keep it to myself.
Doggone/GA
December 13th, 2012
11:00 am
“I’ll tell you why.”
JHM – there’s a much shorter answer: because if they want people to BUY from them, those people need JOBS to have the money to do so
Thomas Heyward Jr
December 13th, 2012
11:00 am
If anyone whats to know what the future of Amerika looks like for the next coupla years under Obama……..one only has to look at that fat-arse Union worker up in Lansing the other day.
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Rage…spittle……….violence.
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It’s the state’s way.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:00 am
Don’t know about molecules or quarks, but confirmation bias on the right was definitely an issue as it is on the left between Granny and Danny and you and jamvet and brosephus and…….Jay and ….
I see we’re painting with the broad brush today. If you don’t mind, I’d prefer you keep me out of your broad brush memes. My bias is mine. I don’t rely solely on left or right leaning sources to form my opinion. That I don’t agree with you doesn’t make me a leftie anymore that not agreeing with Jay makes me a rightie.
You would do yourself great good to actually ask people their beliefs instead of assuming and lumping people into groups based on what you “think” they believe.
Ben
December 13th, 2012
11:01 am
Oh please, Obama didn’t win because he spent TV money more efficiently. He could have spent almost nothing on TV and still would have won. It’s a lot easier when 90% of reporters are one your side and act as campaigners for you. Plus you have large ethnic groups that would have voted for him no matter what based purely on his skin color. Yes, those people are racist, and don’t lie, you know they are out there, and that they voted for Obama based on skin color and nothing else. If you’re going to call out as bigots the very few people who refused to vote for Obama because he’s black (distinguished from the many who refused to vote for him because he’s not doing a good job), then you have to call out the people who voted for him simply because he’s black as bigots as well.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:02 am
“Do you REALLY need that explained?
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Even if you believe .gov figures……. 60 million voted for the “community orginizer”.
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Last census 311 million in America.”
okay … ignoring the fact that number includes the underaged and illegals and felons, etc who can’t vote …
where are you getting 75% of “decent Americans”??? and who ARE these “decent Americans”??? can we identify them by sight? by the music they listen to? the food they eat? where they shop?
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
11:02 am
Doggone — “JHM – there’s a much shorter answer: because if they want people to BUY from them, those people need JOBS to have the money to do so”
That’s a good distillation, but I figured he wanted a bit more of an explanation than that.
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
11:02 am
“If you’re over the age of 10 and still need a definition of decency……chances are, you’re not.
Decency certainly doesn’t have anything to do with torture, assacinating 16 year-old Americans boys (or anybody for that matter), lying, and/or theft by coercion/violence.”
I was asking for YOUR definition of Decency, since YOU used the word. Sounds like you suspect what it is not, but have no idea what it is!
indigo
December 13th, 2012
11:03 am
Erwin’s cat
Someday, if and when you ever finish homeschooling and get some college, you’ll learn there REALLY ARE people in America who don’t ever want an African American in the White House and most, but not all, are Republicans.
Ben
December 13th, 2012
11:03 am
Barking Frog: How does that equate with blaming everything on Bush?
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
11:03 am
Bro – It’s Thursday, are you a flaming lib or pathetic con today?
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
11:05 am
EC
Bro morphs depending on the issue…….. as it should be
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:05 am
Even if you believe .gov figures……. 60 million voted for the “community orginizer”.
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Last census 311 million in America.
Nevermind the F-A-C-T that there are not 311 million eligible voters in the US. Completely ignore the fact that the census counts A-L-L people living in the US, whether in status or out of status. You have people living here on work visas who can’t vote because of their nationality. You have green card holders who can’t vote because of their nationality. There’s also that 23% of that 311 million that are under the age of 18 as well.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
Bill Orvis White
December 13th, 2012
11:06 am
I wish to the Lord that this nation was going into a fourth Bush term. We would not be in the mess that we are in today if we would have allowed a president like Mr. Bush to serve four complete terms. Amen, Bill
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
11:06 am
USinUK — Surely we are faced with a fine example of the No True Scotsman fallacy, wouldn’t you say?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Scuba Steve
December 13th, 2012
11:06 am
I really hope some of you conservatives can join me in this line of thinking. I’m about as liberal as they come, but I am pretty desperate for an honest evaluation of this loss by the Republican party. Truthfully, I’m just a bit startled by the reaction.
The truth is, you CAN compete for ideas in the “new” hi-tech America. You CAN compete for Black & Latino votes. I’m even willing to go as far as to say that buried underneath all of your crap (and let’s be honest, there has been a lot of it in the last few months) you have some genuine concerns about the Democratic party and their plan.
The point is, nobody will take you seriously until you give up the “sports rivalry” mentality. Think about it, despite logic & what their own eyes & ears tell them, fans of an inferior team (let’s call them, Georgia Tech) are able to convince themselves that they WILL beat a superior team (let’s call them the Georgia Bulldogs. Strictly for the sake of example.) When it doesn’t happen, they’ll think of every reason in the world to blame the loss on rather than admitting their shortcomings.
A real piece of advice — stop making this about Obama. He was victorious, the second term will happen. But guess what, America will continue AFTER he leaves office. Start focusing on that.
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
11:07 am
Pretty epic meltdown (or “deltdown” as one blogger named it) last night. I must say, I did get a good belly laugh reading the rant.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
11:08 am
BOW — Obvious troll is obvious
Thomas Heyward Jr
December 13th, 2012
11:08 am
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
10:59 am
“Well, there’s all those children who are decent Americans. Of course, children can’t vote…but don’t let FACTS spoil a good rant!”
seriously – I’d really like to know who the “decent Americans” are … because there doesn’t seem to be a lot of them if 75% of them turned out for Romney and he still lost …
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Nor would any decent person vote for NDAA-supporting Neo-Con Romney either………….although there were more naive/ignorant voters for Romney..
(you can be decent but still do indecency through ignorance or naivity).
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I beleive that your typical Obama voter is NOT ignorant or naive.
Only greedy, envious, and willing to use the State to get what they want.
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See Lansing Michigan.
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
11:09 am
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
10:59 am
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:56 am
I do Granny but I keep it to myself.
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The latex gloves or disdain for faux Christians?
Pretty weak either way.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:09 am
JHM – welp, here’s the thing …
I *thought* I knew a lot of decent Americans … evidently, I don’t. So, I’d just like to know what to look out for – because it evidently has nothing to do with how you treat your fellow man – so, guideposts. that’s what I’d like.
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
11:09 am
“Yep Lynnie, that exactly what he wanted to do, take away everybody’s healthcare, close all hospitals, doctors offices, dentist offices, OG/GYN offices, pretty much all of them.”
^^^^ RB being obtuse ON PURPOSE.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:10 am
EC: It’s Thursday, are you a flaming lib or pathetic con today?
I don’t know. This time off work has effed up my thinking. Based on my discussions with Stevie Ray alone today, I’m completely confused. I had to correct him on my statement by defendingventure capital and private equity. Then I had to union check him. Somebody’s gonna have to feed me some rhetoric today.
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
11:10 am
“JHM – there’s a much shorter answer: because if they want people to BUY from them, those people need JOBS to have the money to do so”
That is an insult to the democratic plantation.
alex
December 13th, 2012
11:10 am
@Us in Uk, interesting 10:52, i find that worrisome as I suspect that this will polarize the nation as fewer people may be reading objective news and be relegated to the Breibarts or Mother jones sites….
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
11:10 am
“It’s a lot easier when 90% of reporters are one your side and act as campaigners for you. Plus you have large ethnic groups that would have voted for him no matter what based purely on his skin color.”
…and those grapes were probably sour, anyway…
RB from Gwinnett
December 13th, 2012
11:11 am
“Why on earth does anyone consider that it is business’ obligation to create jobs?”
Better yet, if that’s what all these fools on this blog think businesses exist for, how come they don’t start a business and employee all these “less fortunate” people they pretend to care about so much? And why aren’t the Democrat owned businesses hiring 5-10 more people than they need to “do their part” for the economy?
Put your money where your mouth is, liberals. Talk is cheap. Start a business with your own life’s savings and do your part for the people you keep telling everybody you care about.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:11 am
I wish to the Lord that this nation was going into a fourth Bush term.
Why? Obama has been a better GOP president than Bush ever was.
Oscar
December 13th, 2012
11:12 am
Looks like the best training for future president is the job of community organizer. Can’t argue with results.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:12 am
THJ – “Nor would any decent person vote for NDAA-supporting Neo-Con Romney either………….although there were more naive/ignorant voters for Romney..
(you can be decent but still do indecency through ignorance or naivity).
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I beleive that your typical Obama voter is NOT ignorant or naive.
Only greedy, envious, and willing to use the State to get what they want.
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See Lansing Michigan.”
so … tell me … what makes a “decent American” – you’re still not telling me who they are … much less how you got the 75% figure.
details! because it seems like you’re using MAGIC MATH …
as for this load of a$$ gravy “Only greedy, envious, and willing to use the State to get what they want.”
I think you should take a moment to look at the billions that go to corporate welfare before you condemn the money that the poor truly need.
Hillary 2016
December 13th, 2012
11:13 am
Ben
December 13th, 2012
11:01 am
then why did Black people vote in large numbers for Kerry, Bill Clinton, and other Dems in the past? Did they vote for them just because they are white?
GT
December 13th, 2012
11:13 am
Ben your Republicans being as blind as Ray Charles to the truth didn’t hurt us any either. Don’t change a thing son, keep that channel exactly where it is, keep believing the world is out to get you, it is all them and none of you, that is working so well for you!
alex
December 13th, 2012
11:13 am
@ Gt, I can only blame myself for initially responding to your blog……
Oscar
December 13th, 2012
11:14 am
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:10 am
_____
Have another cup of coffer. Does wonders t clear the mind. I’m only on my first, but things are already looking more clear.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:15 am
alex – “i find that worrisome as I suspect that this will polarize the nation as fewer people may be reading objective news and be relegated to the Breibarts or Mother jones sites….”
exactly – the FOXization of the US – people searching out the news that they want to hear.
Oscar
December 13th, 2012
11:15 am
coffee. – I said still on my first.
TaxPayer
December 13th, 2012
11:15 am
In summary, the OWS types just plain opened a big can of whoopa$$ on the stodgy antiqued white party. Don’t you just love the type of irony that is so thick and rich that it can be applied like your favorite brand of peanut butter. On whole wheat, of course.
Thomas Heyward Jr
December 13th, 2012
11:16 am
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:02 am
“Do you REALLY need that explained?
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Even if you believe .gov figures……. 60 million voted for the “community orginizer”.
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Last census 311 million in America.”
okay … ignoring the fact that number includes the underaged and illegals and felons, etc who can’t vote …
where are you getting 75% of “decent Americans”??? and who ARE these “decent Americans”??? can we identify them by sight? by the music they listen to? the food they eat? where they shop?
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Only Trained people can tell them by sight?
One question will determine whether you’re dealing with a morally-handicapped person.
Did you vote for Romney OR Obama in 2012?
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If they answer either…………..then you know.
Put them behind thee.
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And as far as the 311 million AmeriKans,………..and the children…..and the Felons…….and such.
STILL……………….do the math!
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A Great majority of “eligible” voters (notice I did not say “registered” voters)…… DID NOT VOTE for the “community orginizer”..
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And the number of Decent Americans grow larger.
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Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
11:17 am
Stevie – Actually I am working on a personal biz project whose sole purpose is to put people to work….and make me a lil money on the side too >^..^^..^<"
RB from Gwinnett
December 13th, 2012
11:17 am
“^^^^ RB being obtuse ON PURPOSE.”
Yea, cause having a conversation with somebody that stupid would be just plain pointless. But she’s one of yours so prop her up and keep telling her who to vote for…
Oscar
December 13th, 2012
11:17 am
I took MOther Jones for a year. Didn’t renew. Too conservative for me.
Ivan Cohen
December 13th, 2012
11:17 am
Apparently Mitt Romney’s selling point to get the GOP nomination was his competence. After that he was classic “empty suit”. Lon Chaney, man of a thousand faces had nothing on MItt. Even though Romney had been governor of Massachusetts, he either was sleepwalking or just going through the motions of an elected official. I doubt his election as president would have been an improvement. Successful business leader but a mediocre politician and a stiff one at that. Frankly, the Republicans would have been better nominating Max Headroom as their candidate. Max would have been the perfect compliment to Clint Eastwood and his empty chair skit at the Republican convention. At the time I thought Clint was doing a dry run from one of his upcoming movies……. “The Ventriloquist”. Mitt Romney’s voice and likeness would have been perfect for the dummy on Eastwood’s knees.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:18 am
Oscar
Working on my 2nd one already. I should be back to normal tomorrow though, if I’ve ever been “normal” at all.
GT
December 13th, 2012
11:18 am
alex you might put a touch of that blame on being a lightweigh sucked in by your regional think tanks.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:19 am
Oscar @ 11:15
Donovan
December 13th, 2012
11:20 am
Good morning, looters. I see that your cheerleader is still the pompous one with chest buttons popping from a close victory. Still in campaign mode because of the WH demands on taxation?
His opening paragraph is a little bit obscured by the fact that the Republican Party and Mr. Romney were at a somewhat disadvantage, based on their core make-up. An analogy of their plight might be compared to the Amish trying to sell liquor or rap songs to the public.
As I have mentioned before to the deaf left, the Santa Claus Party always trumps the Pragmatic Party. The Republican Party does seem to stumble when it comes to message effectiveness without the use of entitlement promises,character assassination,and class warfare. It shall be interesting to see if the Repubs want to dirty their hands and follow the Dems down the low road for votes.
Should they compete for the youth vote that has no firm convictions? Should they compete for the Latino vote who have family ties to illegal immigrants? Should they compete for the non-productive minority vote that are bone fide suckers for entilements? Should they compete for the news-ignorant vote? Should they compete for the 47% vote that has an axe to grind against the “rich”?
Difficult choices for a political party with morals and character. Easy choices for a political party with no morals or character.
JamVet
December 13th, 2012
11:21 am
BOTH, deltdown del went blogging postal last night and then got fragged. It was rather humorous…
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:21 am
“Only Trained people can tell them by sight?
One question will determine whether you’re dealing with a morally-handicapped person.
Did you vote for Romney OR Obama in 2012?
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If they answer either…………..then you know.
Put them behind thee.
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And as far as the 311 million AmeriKans,………..and the children…..and the Felons…….and such.
STILL……………….do the math!
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A Great majority of “eligible” voters (notice I did not say “registered” voters)…… DID NOT VOTE for the “community orginizer”..
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And the number of Decent Americans grow larger.”
um. yeah. THJ – have you started drinking early this morning? because your ramblings make no sense.
please join Oscar in some coffee … you seem to need some. desperately.
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
11:21 am
““It’s a lot easier when 90% of reporters are one your side and act as campaigners for you. Plus you have large ethnic groups that would have voted for him no matter what based purely on his skin color.”
…and those grapes were probably sour, anyway…”
If it were bass ackwards there would be rioting in the streets, the grapes would be smashed to pulp, people killed, and property destruction likened to Sandy. People who voted for Obama are morons and some are phd morons.
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
11:22 am
>^..^^..^<"
^^^^^^^^^ Which one, Erwin? Enquiring Physicists want to know!
JamVet
December 13th, 2012
11:22 am
Donnie,
Tell us again how Jay is anti-American, OK?
Hillary 2016
December 13th, 2012
11:22 am
Sports Terminology….a “win” is a “win” even if it is by “one” point!!! Suck it up Repubs…you lost!!
guy
December 13th, 2012
11:22 am
GT I don’t have a party but I do have enough sense to have my own opinion.I may not agree with you but that does not mean I am wrong. You have your thoughts and I have mine.How does that work for you? (not, how that work for you?) See,we all are not as smart as we think we are sometimes.) Preach on!
JamVet
December 13th, 2012
11:23 am
willie, where did you go to school?
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
11:23 am
Donovan was your daddy Eyore?
TaxPayer
December 13th, 2012
11:24 am
I went to test drive a Jeep and I couldn’t even figure out how to start the thing because all the controls had labels that looked like mahjong tiles… no, wait, that was from a Mitt Romney campaign ad. Never mind.
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
11:24 am
Donovan
December 13th, 2012
11:20 am
I am impressed. I needed that.
Scuba Steve
December 13th, 2012
11:24 am
LOL and just like that, Donovan kicks in the door making MY point for me better than I ever could.
Unbelievable.
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
11:24 am
“An analogy of their plight might be compared to the Amish trying to sell liquor or rap songs to the public”
That’s right, Donovan – they had nothing the public wanted. Some advice: just keep comp[laining how the public is too stupid to know what’s good for them, and I’ll guarantee you win the next election!
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
11:25 am
Regnad
it was supposed to be just >^..^< but it got auto edited into something else when I tried to give a hat tip to JHM for the cat emotioncon
They BOTH suck
December 13th, 2012
11:26 am
Jam
I read it this morning. Meltdown was HIGH-LARIUS……. and your “deltdown” comment gave me a great belly laugh
fedup
December 13th, 2012
11:26 am
The election showed the money people are not the engines of the companies. It is the so called “moochers” and the “47%ters” are running the companies. The top dogs only manage the money. Rich people cannot be rich without the smart ones working for them.
Cosby
December 13th, 2012
11:26 am
Hmm…it did not help that the media was covering for Barry. At every angle, they waited to punce on Romney’s mis quotes but praised and covered for Barry. Even in the debates, good old Candy joined in to cover for Barry and the middle east fisaco…how could he not loose…media bashed Romeny Ryan but praised and covered for Barry. but wait until you see what the USA will be like in 2 years and then you may have buyers remorse. Even today the media plays the class war fare ..ignoring the Union gangsters and praises those evil nasty rich folks who need to pay more..See California – the USA on 2014. Happy Trails
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
11:28 am
THJ – you have no idea what you meant by “decency” – you’ve had half-a-dozen posts to try to explain it, and not even made the attempt!
You’re a funny guy!
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:28 am
JamVet
What page? What time?
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
11:29 am
“willie, where did you go to school?”
Navy Intelligence schools, Pensacola, Fl, National crytological school, NSA, Maryland. Prior to that AIU Online, Unv Marland, City College of Chicago, Tex Central Coll, Anne Arundel Comm College.
the cat
December 13th, 2012
11:29 am
GOVERNOR Romney was electable, competent, and likable.
CANDIDATE Romney was not any of the above. His listened to his handlers and money people. I imagine that will haunt him the rest of his life. Hope so. Ann too.
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
11:29 am
“If it were bass ackwards there would be rioting in the streets, the grapes would be smashed to pulp, people killed, and property destruction likened to Sandy. People who voted for Obama are morons and some are phd morons.”
Your surrender is acknowledged.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:30 am
yay!!! I missed you yesterday, Donovan, so I couldn’t bring this one out …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HluUIly_r08
Welcome to the Occupation
December 13th, 2012
11:30 am
RB from Gwinnett concede free stuff is more appealing and as more poeple figure out they can vote themselves plunder from the public treasury, we’ll slide down that same slippery slope Greece, Spain, and others have gone down.
So does “free stuff” only bother you when you imagine it to be by blacks, browns, and scroungers?
Doesn’t bother you when it’s the banks or the massive corporations who avoid paying any taxes who get the free stuff? That doesn’t bother you at all does it?
By the way, RB, if it’s been pointed out once it’s been done a hundred times on these boards that getting “free stuff” had nothing to do with Spain and Greece’s predicament, and at any rate it is highly misleading to lump together those two countries. But obviously you’re not interested in examining pesky facts like that.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
11:31 am
Williebclueless — “That is an insult to the democratic plantation.”
What do you think *you* know about it?
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
11:31 am
“just keep comp[laining how the public is too stupid to know what Free Stuff is for them, and I’ll guarantee you win the next election!”
That reads more factual.
guy
December 13th, 2012
11:31 am
Cosby, They won’t have buyers remorse because they will blame someone else by then. That’s ok too!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:31 am
“Navy Intelligence schools, Pensacola, Fl, National crytological school, NSA, Maryland. Prior to that AIU Online, Unv Marland, City College of Chicago, Tex Central Coll, Anne Arundel Comm College.”
laugh
effing
RIOT
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
11:31 am
“it was supposed to be just >^..^< but it got auto edited into something else when I tried to give a hat tip to JHM for the cat emotioncon"
Keep the other one – it fits your monicker.
the cat
December 13th, 2012
11:31 am
Haven’t been here in a bit. Why are all the idiots from Kyle’s blog posting here? were they banned from Kyle?
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:32 am
ignoring the Union gangsters
Cosby
Are these the union gangsters you’re referring to? They even stopped long enough from their thuggery for a group photo with a political candidate.
http://www.martinheinrich.com/news/american-federation-of-teachers-new-mexico-endorses-martin-heinrich-for-senate
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December 13th, 2012
11:34 am
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♥ ☆ ♥ ♥ ☆ ♥ ♥ ☆ ♥
♥ ☆Hillary 2016♥ ☆
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Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:34 am
USinner @ 11:30
http://www.shootbank.net/photos/1756.medium.jpg
Oscar
December 13th, 2012
11:34 am
Saw the Barbara Walters Special last night. She interviewed Gov. Christie and Hillary – not at the same time. Good interviews.
Pretty sure Hillary will not run.
Christie looked good. Could be the next president.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
11:35 am
Donovan — “Good morning, looters.”
ST*U, Donny.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118715/quotes
GT
December 13th, 2012
11:36 am
Guy I do make some typos on the end of words for some reason, can’t get the hang of typing without spell-check, but thanks for pointing that out to me.
And Guy if it is your own opinion I am all for you. But if it just happens to be someone else’s and the combination is not winning for you, maybe your own opinion would really work better than the one you are using now. Just a thought have a good day old man.
TaxPayer
December 13th, 2012
11:37 am
I wonder if Mitt has cleared off some shelf space for his Politico Award.
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
11:37 am
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:31 am
I was really poor!
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
11:37 am
Oscar
If I were Hillary…I’d run if I had a grandchild by 2014.
I have my priorities.
Oh and congrats to Jenna Bush Hager and the whole family on their happy news.
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
11:37 am
Keep the other one – it fits your monicker.
i lol’d
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:37 am
Bro – he just kills me.
or makes me crave a nice sharp cheddar to go with his whine …
alex
December 13th, 2012
11:38 am
Any Facts out there or is this blog about CV’s…
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:38 am
willieb – with that many colleges to your credit, you’re giving Sarah Palin a run for her money …
bookman parrot
December 13th, 2012
11:39 am
pat yourself on the back Jay, but it will probably lead to a kick in the pants for the country as a whole after the damage that BHO will cause in the next 4 years.
the results of this election just shows how many simpletons are in the voting electorate and how easily they can be fooled. remember the phrase “fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me”. I think alot of people who voted for BHO will fall under this saying, and hopefully they will have the cognition to recognize their mistake
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:40 am
EC
Wouldn’t it be more correct if it looked like this?
>^..^^..^<|
———-
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:41 am
dang it…. Lemme try this again
>^..^^..^<|
———-
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
11:41 am
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
Wow, I am flattered.
appleseed
December 13th, 2012
11:41 am
Orifice you know the smartest thing the pugs done was to keep Georgie out of sight out of mind.No Georgie at the RNC.No more Bush-Whacking.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:42 am
” it will probably lead to a kick in the pants for the country as a whole after the damage that BHO will cause in the next 4 years.”
yep … economy growing … good jobs report this week … oof! SUCH a kick in the pants …
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:42 am
Dang blog won’t even let me put the cat in the box.
Erwin's cat >^..^
December 13th, 2012
11:43 am
I’ll keep it simple…if this works
bookman parrot
December 13th, 2012
11:43 am
i saw something interesting the other day on Yahoo … that some organization gave Romney the “biggest lie of the year”. That organization should give Obama the “lifetime achievement
for lying” award.. that just based on he would be the most transparent pres, yet he excels at being evasive
Erwin's cat
December 13th, 2012
11:43 am
shoot!
Jefferson
December 13th, 2012
11:43 am
RB the promises Romney made was to the rich people and corporations, he needs more millionaires and for corps to vote for him to win.
That is lame BS you are spewing, or should I say repeating as it was not your idea.
bookman parrot
December 13th, 2012
11:45 am
to USinU
get back to me in four years or even next year when the middle class is getting dinged by much high tax burden
Oscar
December 13th, 2012
11:46 am
bookman parrot
December 13th, 2012
11:43 am
____
That award was for his statement about jeeps will be made in China instead of in the US.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
11:47 am
B. Parrot — “get back to me in four years or even next year when the middle class is getting dinged by much high tax burden”
You can always tell when the conservative posters didn’t even bother to read their own candidate’s economic plan.
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
11:47 am
Hey, you libs sure lost a lot of money yesterday with Mi voting to be a right to work state. But you still have the lame stream media.
bookman parrot
December 13th, 2012
11:48 am
to USinUK
since you like numbers
how about the 6.2 trillion more deficit under BHO
how is that better. how is that even close to what he promise in campaign rhetoric 4 years ago.
you can’t argue those numbers… but i’m sure you will try with whatever fits into your fantasyworld
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:49 am
“get back to me in four years or even next year when the middle class is getting dinged by much high tax burden”
the middle class has done just fine in the past with higher tax burdens than what is proposed … so have the wealthy …
what do you have against balancing the budget???
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:49 am
They BOTH
If you’re still here, have you seen this one…
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-12/mcdonald-s-8-25-man-and-8-75-million-ceo-shows-pay-gap.html
Johnson, 44, needs the two paychecks to pay rent for his apartment at a single-room occupancy hotel on the city’s north side. While he’s worked at McDonald’s stores for two decades, he still doesn’t get 40 hours a week and makes $8.25 an hour, minimum wage in Illinois.
[...]
Johnson would need about a million hours of work — or more than a century on the clock — to earn the $8.75 million that McDonald’s, based in the Chicago suburb of Oak Brook, paid then- CEO Jim Skinner last year.
[...]
Shareholders, not employees, have reaped the rewards. McDonald’s, for example, spent $6 billion on share repurchases and dividends last year, the equivalent of $14,286 per restaurant worker employed by the company. At the same time, restaurant companies have formed an industrywide effort to freeze the minimum wage, whose purchasing power is 20 percent less than in 1968, according to the Economic Policy Institute, a think tank that advocates for low- and middle-income workers.
[...]
He’d heard about an effort to form the Workers Organizing Committee of Chicago, a group pushing for a $15-an-hour wage. Johnson joined despite McDonald’s previous efforts to prevent unions, which have left workers with lingering fears. The Big Mac seller has employed a group of experienced managers and executives to parachute into locations where union activity is suspected. In 1998, after workers at a McDonald’s in Ohio went on strike to protest unfair wages and working conditions, the leaders lost their jobs, said Sonny Nardi, president of Local 416 Teamsters union in Cleveland.
JamVet
December 13th, 2012
11:50 am
…the results of this election just shows how many simpletons are in the voting electorate and how easily they can be fooled.
Woo Hoo!
The always brilliant parrot has seized on a grand idea!
Tell everybody outside of your pup tent how stupid and lazy they are!
Yeah!
Label them all communists and mooches!
Now that is a sure fired way to win elections, parrot!
Good for you.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
11:51 am
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:40 am
American consumers by a ton of goods from business who have few to no employees domestically. Look at APPLE, DELL, and the like. It’s kinda funny how BO won the tech voters when those very businesses are the true leaders in offshoring since its conception..
Just another irony…Apple and Dell are not in business to create US jobs…they are in business to provide products the consumer can use and afford. Neither would be the case if all their employees were on shore…they’d died years ago and we’d all be using and applauding Samsung et al..
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
11:55 am
” It’s kinda funny how BO won the tech voters when those very businesses are the true leaders in offshoring since its conception..”
um – why is that funny when Obama has said that he is against offshoring???
makes perfect sense to me.
Mick
December 13th, 2012
11:57 am
donovan
**The Republican Party does seem to stumble when it comes to message effectiveness without the use of entitlement promises**
What about medicare part d???
**character assassination**
What about birthers? Muslim socialist, marxist, death panels
** class warfare.**
It’s over, the rich have won that war, but we are starting win some battles starting with a nice tax increase for the top 2%.
It’s all good man, don’t take yourself too seriously – we don’t!!!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
11:57 am
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
11:49 am
What’s the point? So the guy at top is overpaid and guy at bottom is paid minimum wage. Did you know that McDonalds has been experimenting with the drive-thru order taking outsourced domestically? Not sure about offshoring but they basically hire someone who works from home to actually take order and transmit to kitchen…the failure rate was cut more than half…
How do you know the guy at the bottom doesn’t find happiness in the amount of money he makes? It’s his choice…only if society is conspiring to keep a man down intentionally, what’s the problem? I think a big part is that entitlements past a certain point become enablers to keep dreams and aspirations under wraps…
F. Sinkwich
December 13th, 2012
11:58 am
“what do you have against balancing the budget???”
Ask your messiah, O’bozo. Dude don’t believe in that.
F. Sinkwich
December 13th, 2012
12:00 pm
“Johnson, 44, needs the two paychecks to pay rent for his apartment at a single-room occupancy hotel on the city’s north side. While he’s worked at McDonald’s stores for two decades, he still doesn’t get 40 hours a week and makes $8.25 an hour, minimum wage in Illinois.”
*sniff*
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
December 13th, 2012
12:03 pm
IF you voted for DUBYA cons then its all your fault…
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
12:03 pm
F. Sinkwich — “*sniff*”
And you wonder why your side lost.
Old Farmer
December 13th, 2012
12:03 pm
I think the people still remembered Bush-Cheney and that had a lot to do with it. It also didn’t help that Romney came across as a candidate for the rich, elite. Well, it’s no wonder he came across that way, that’s what he was.
stands for decibels
December 13th, 2012
12:03 pm
What the extra footage reveals is the man who punched Mr. Crowder being knocked to the ground seconds before and then getting up and taking a swing at the comedian.
Sigh.
Don’t those FNC viewers ever tire of being played? At what point do they tell the demon spawn of Breitbart to eff off?
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
12:04 pm
*sniff*
That’s the attitude! It will lead you to VICTORY!
Darwin
December 13th, 2012
12:04 pm
Some insight here as well. During the 47% speech, Romney claimed that the financial markets would rebound just by him being elected. No policies enacted. No legislation. Just by being elected. Tells you something about the whole Romney campaign. It was based on destiny alone.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:04 pm
Both parties are incompetent – Obama’s incompetent…… that’s why we are $16,000,000,000,000 + in debt. It took hard work by BOTH parties over many years to throw our country’s future down the RAT HOLE – also known as SOCIALIST social giveaway programs primarily initiated but not funded – by the Dems.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:07 pm
The only thing more incompetent than politicians running this Kangaroo Court is the voters that put them in office. You voted for what you got – incompetence.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
12:07 pm
“Ask your messiah, O’bozo. Dude don’t believe in that.”
dearheart, my messiah is Daniel Craig.
or Damien Lewis.
they don’t say much about a balanced budget.
guy
December 13th, 2012
12:07 pm
GT You did not hear me in that I do have a different opinion than you. I am concerned about this nation and the losers so far are all of us on both sides. Understand, I don’t need the press on either side deciding how I feel or vote. You have a good day and if 60 is old to you,then have a good day from an old man!
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
December 13th, 2012
12:08 pm
GOP ITS ALL YOUR FAULT
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
12:08 pm
“The only thing more incompetent than politicians running this Kangaroo Court is the voters that put them in office”
yep
more winning messages
keep it up!!! people will flock to the GOP in droves … no really! they will!!!
the cat
December 13th, 2012
12:08 pm
Keep it up, you will lose again in 2016. Rinse and repeat.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
12:03 pm
F. Sinkwich — “*sniff*”
And you wonder why your side lost.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 13th, 2012
12:08 pm
stands, so its possible the “reporter” trying to manipulate the events may actually have not filed charges because he or someone associated with him physically provoked the response first all Fox/Breitbart Thug like.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
12:09 pm
Mick
December 13th, 2012
11:57 am
Jury remains out if the “victory” of shaking down the 2% will actually be favorable to the other 98%. So FEDS get another 80 biln a year….5-7% of annual deficit…go buy your self something nice.
Even that looks good on paper but when we don’t realize any real cuts of meaning (likely the case over time), it will just go to paying off increasing interest on the debt that will continue to spiral..
Just how big do you want government to be?
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
12:09 pm
T. Cat — “Keep it up, you will lose again in 2016. Rinse and repeat.”
One wonders if he trips handicapped people in the grocery store parking lot.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
12:10 pm
S. Ray — “Just how big do you want government to be?”
Big enough to drown Grover Norquist in a bathtub.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:11 pm
Obama is our 1st “Reality Show” President but this is not our 1st “reality Show” Congress – at least Nanny Pelosi is not on T V trying on wedding dresses though she would fit in on “House Wives” .with those botoxed lips.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
12:11 pm
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 13th, 2012
12:08 pm
Are you with me that the GOP should give DEMS everything they want in the cliff discussions?
Be the perfect metric to measure just how effective their economic concepts and ability to deliver really are…I’d like to see that happen, give them everything they want and sit back and keep score..
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
12:13 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
12:10 pm
We agree on that dope…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 13th, 2012
12:14 pm
ITS ALL BUSH’S FAULT
December 13th, 2012
12:08 pm
Another brilliant entry…can’t thank you enough.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
December 13th, 2012
12:15 pm
The only thing President Obama does well is campaign.
Clearly the Misery Index complied during his first term proves he’s failed as a manager, statesman and leader. He’s a social reformer – who lives by one paradigm: A government who takes from Peter to give to Paul can count on Paul’s support. That’s why he won reelection. He pandered to Paul.
Besides the entitlement class, the color-struck among the electorate continued to find virtue in pigmentation and pigmentation alone. The President is still black! And that’s a good thing – for tee shirt sales and stand up routines at The Soul Train Awards.
Please see the idiotic comment posted by @indigo.
Question for you @indigo. There’s a black man sitting in the Oval Office. Has been for four years now. What’s the current unemployment rate in the black community? How about the number of black men incarcerated? Does the rate of illegitimacy among black babies cause you reason for concern?
Tell me again why it’s important for the president not to be a white guy.
Mitt Romney is an out of touch rich guy. He’s a stuffed shirt. But he’s also a competent leader and manager with a proven track record.
Obama’s an empty suit. Yet he was again beneficiary of incredible voter largess – considering his weak resume and ineffective first term.
I am thankful that the office has a two term limit. My fellow Americans would probably elect this nimrod again in 2016.
Atlanta elects a mayor every four years based solely on race. How’s that working out for us?
Wise up, people.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:17 pm
What’s Congress going to do with the assets (taxes)confiscated from the 2 % … is it put in a lock box to only go to reduce the deficit or is going down the rat hole too? Not in a lock box so RAT HOLE is where it’s going…….. and Jay refused to take me up on my offer that the deficit would not be ONE CENT lower when Obama leaves office than it is today. What does that say for Obama’s “plan” when his biggest fan is not confident?
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
12:20 pm
“And you wonder why your side lost.”
We know why our side lost:
-Liberal media is not journalism.
-up north,east and west coast are morons who believe they are owed free stuff.
-above mentioned areas fall for a pretty speech filled with lies and do not look for substance–dont are to hear speeches with substance but rather entertaining speeches.
What to do to resolve this–Tell lies and offer free stuff and when you get elected revert back to your truthful conservative ways. Election won and the republic has won.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
12:20 pm
E. E. Purgatory — “Mitt Romney is an out of touch rich guy. He’s a stuffed shirt. But he’s also a competent leader and manager with a proven track record.”
No, he’s not. Remember, he was *gone* from Bain when all those big wins came through.
That’s what he SAID, anyway.
Maybe if we had a look at his taxes, that might clear things up.
Mick
December 13th, 2012
12:21 pm
stevie ray
You have to start somewhere, correct? Obviously there needs to be an exhaustive audit on every single program out there targeting waste and fraud. Everyone’s taxes need to go up to pay down the debt, no new spending. Shore up social security and medicare, thats all I ask…
guy
December 13th, 2012
12:21 pm
Morality THANKS FOR THE TOTAL TRUTH! FINALLY A PERSON WITH COMMON SENSE! HOW CAN ANY OF US BE PROUD OF EITHER PARTY?
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
12:21 pm
Wiliebkind — “We know why our side lost”
No, you don’t. You and your ideological compatriots prove it here every day.
You haven’t a clue. Besides, you’re arguing to stay the same losing course. Fine. Please do that.
You will just continue to lose.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:22 pm
Obama’s plan is the same as Congress’s plan – stay in the evil 1 %.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 13th, 2012
12:23 pm
Williebkind –
” -up north,east and west coast are morons who believe they are owed free stuff”
Ha! What a laugh.
Those are the very surplus regions that generally subsidize the less productive regions like the South.
If transfers from the richer regions to the South were cut off, now that is something that truly would leave the South looking like Greece. Irony of ironies!
Krystal'sBalls
December 13th, 2012
12:23 pm
…and your last statement in the article Jay sums up my entire outlook on this thing from the beginning, and has been what I have been saying here for a long time now. THAT is what eats his HATERS up! They just cannot get past it. Of course these people including the Pres. are MUCH more than that. It’s just the narrrative they’ve been sold…
Williebkind
December 13th, 2012
12:26 pm
Joe Hussein Mama:
Ideolog? Now thats the butt telling the turd he stinks. The progressive liberals will eventually lose out. Just like any war there will be pain and suffering. Your group caused it and I feel your group should have more pain and it will. The plantation will never give up their free stuff so they will have to die off.
guy
December 13th, 2012
12:28 pm
Escaped from Email Purgatory, Add Detroit to the list of successfully run places too!
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 13th, 2012
12:28 pm
JHM
Big enough to drown Grover Norquist in a bathtub.
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I’ll hold him down, you sit on his legs
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:29 pm
My side didn’t lose – my side didn’t get in the run off for “Reality Show” President. I am a FISCAL conservative. “W” and Obama are FISCAL liberals……. I did not vote for a fiscal liberal – you did. You voted for a PARTY LOYALIST – I vote for USA loyalists….. you know, those that put our FISCAL future 1st. Your candidate puts party 1st and country be damned.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
12:32 pm
Williebkind — “Ideolog? Now thats the butt telling the turd he stinks.”
Considering all those schools you claim to have attended, I’d think you’d have the brainpower to distinguish between the words “ideological” (which I used) and “ideologue” (which I did not). Clearly, I overestimated how much time you spent AWAKE during your supposed education.
“The progressive liberals will eventually lose out.”
Nope. Time, truth, facts, demographics and age are on OUR side. You have no hope whatsoever of prevailing.
“Just like any war there will be pain and suffering.”
If you think you have to wage war against your own countrymen, then you’ve already lost.
“Your group caused it”
Yes, run and tell mommy that the OTHER kids broke the window. Do it quick before she finds out about it on her own. (laughing) ;D
“and I feel your group should have more pain”
Someone call the WAAAAAAAAAAAHmbulance! (laughing, pointing)
“and it will.”
“The plantation will never give up their free stuff so they will have to die off.”
Clueless loser says what?
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 13th, 2012
12:32 pm
It’s too bad that the majority of Americans voted for a Fiscal REALIST
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:32 pm
What’s that Obama’s “preacher” said in Church – no less? “G.D. America” – Obama’s preacher, like Obama and Congress (both sides), is loyal to his party 1st and “G D. America.” That’s what you voted for – congratulations…… you won – the USA lost.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 13th, 2012
12:35 pm
I didn’t see Wright’s name on the ballot. Did I miss something?
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:35 pm
No you voted for a FISCAL fraud.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
12:37 pm
“Morality” — “My side didn’t lose”
Nobody’s talking to *you.*
Escaped from Email Purgatory
December 13th, 2012
12:38 pm
@JH Mama.
Good point.
But given the choice between a guy who was a republican governor of a democrat state who worked across the aisle to implement a viable health care plan and ram-rodded an Olympics, I’ll take that over a community organizer and freshman senator who voted “present” most of the time.
Clearly, I was in the electoral minority.
The election of 2012 was like a beauty contest between two homely girls and it all came down to the talent competition. Romney played Beethoven’s 9th while reciting Macbeth. Obama? He recited a limeric about a hermit named Dave.
But he won anyway.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:38 pm
Obama’s mentor J. “G.D. America” Wright was on the ballot under the pseudonym OBAMA.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:40 pm
Is your pseudonym now NOBODY?
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
12:41 pm
“Obama’s mentor J. “G.D. America” Wright was on the ballot under the pseudonym OBAMA”
Are we gonna have to post that entire sermon again? Morality: Context matters.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:41 pm
There ain’t NOBODY.
btull27
December 13th, 2012
12:43 pm
That’s what is is so sad, we have 2 incompetent parties vying for power. Democrats are just lucky Republicans are currently bigger idiots than them. Republicans can’t help but shoot themselves in the foot. I believe their incapable of running a smart campaign. This past election should have been a slam dunk, but Republicans chose to get mixed up in a battle on social issues instead of economics. Democrats know all they need to do is bring up abortion and Republicans will say something stupid and that will redirect attention away from their record. I don’t dislike Mitt Romney, but that’s really the best they could come up with? Democrats knew what they were doing by running Herman Cain off because he would have made winning tougher for their tactics. Libertarians need to take the ball and run because their platform would make them immune to the normal social issues which are currently used to divide the vote. Instead, 2016 will bring back the same BS. Clinton vs Rubio and Marco hates women, doesn’t believe in evolution and is no longer in touch with his Hispanic heritage. Clinton loves women, has experience and has her husband.
Brosephus™
December 13th, 2012
12:43 pm
Stevie Ray
The point is you’re butting into a conversation that TBS and I have going on outside the blog. If you’re worried about the guy’s happiness, why don’t you read the article instead of trying to pick a fight that you’re going to lose? You didn’t respond to my question to you earlier when you made an ass of yourself trying to assume what I was talking about. Please don’t make the same mistake twice. ? K
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:45 pm
Context matters – just pointing out that to these politicians you voted for are PARTY LOYALISTS 1st and as Rev Rat said “We 1st and G.D. America”. That was basically the context in a nut shell. He said it – he meant it – Obama was in the balcony – didn’t here Obama deny it.
Lord Help Us
December 13th, 2012
12:50 pm
Morality? Have you forgotten Bill Ayers?
You need to step up your game.
Cowboy Up, Pilgrim….
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
12:50 pm
“Democrats knew what they were doing by running Herman Cain off because he would have made winning tougher for their tactics’
Please! Don’t run Herman Cain! Not him! Oh, noesssssssss!!!!!
Welcome to the Occupation
December 13th, 2012
12:50 pm
Morality? “What’s that Obama’s “preacher” said in Church – no less? “G.D. America” – Obama’s preacher, like Obama and Congress (both sides), is loyal to his party 1st and “G D. America.” That’s what you voted for – congratulations…… you won – the USA lost.”
Ok granted, the intellectual level of this blog may not be able to support this, but here goes anyway:
Has it ever occurred to you that saying “G.D. America!” may not necessarily be anti-American at all?
I know it’s a stretch! But what I’m asking you to do is switch off the Fox News/Rush Limbaugh type pseudo-thinking for a moment and ponder something new.
Have you ever read the Old Testament, for example, about the old prophets of Israel? If you reflect on that for a moment – I know I’m stretching here – it might begin to dawn on you that those two things might not necessarily be incompatible at all.
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
12:51 pm
“Rev Rat said “We 1st and G.D. America”. That was basically the context in a nut shell. He said it – he meant it”
Morality, I hate to be the one to tell you…but on this issue, you have no clue.
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
12:52 pm
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
December 13th, 2012
11:51 am
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
10:40 am
American consumers by a ton of goods from business who have few to no employees domestically. Look at APPLE, DELL, and the like. It’s kinda funny how BO won the tech voters when those very businesses are the true leaders in offshoring since its conception..
Just another irony…Apple and Dell are not in business to create US jobs…they are in business to provide products the consumer can use and afford. Neither would be the case if all their employees were on shore…they’d died years ago and we’d all be using and applauding Samsung et al..
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Does any of the above surprise you?
I hope that you and I both by local whenever possible….it’s a start.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
12:53 pm
E. E. Purgatory — “But given the choice between a guy who was a republican governor of a democrat state who worked across the aisle to implement a viable health care plan and ram-rodded an Olympics, I’ll take that over a community organizer and freshman senator who voted “present” most of the time.”
Given a choice between a sitting President who’s had to fight the Republicans tooth-and-nail for every scrap of progress over the last four years and a former Governor who didn’t carry ANY state he’s ever lived in AND who had to beg the Federal Government to triple its funding of the Olympics he purportedly “saved,” I’ll take Obama.
“Clearly, I was in the electoral minority.”
Clearly.
“The election of 2012 was like a beauty contest between two homely girls and it all came down to the talent competition. Romney played Beethoven’s 9th while reciting Macbeth. Obama? He recited a limeric about a hermit named Dave.”
The Republican primary was all about who the Republican rank and file hated least. Don’t even try to make Romney more than he was. Four years ago, he’s the guy who came second to a dyspeptic old man who made the grandest VP selection FAIL in our collective national history. Today, y’all act like Romney hung the moon.
Question: If Romney was all that from the get-go, how come y’all didn’t put him atop the ticket in 2008?
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:55 pm
Now what I said about Obama and the Dems being PARTY LOYALISTS 1st also goes for the Repubs…… their main objective is to tell the voters what the voters want to hear so they will get reelected. They know that if they tell you the TRUTH that you won’t likely get their vote because you “Can’t handle the truth”. As I have advocated before – we need a 3rd Party that is loyal to the FISCAL survival of the USA over party loyalty. TERM LIMITS FOR CONGRESS and a BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT to the Constitution would have avoided Fed Debt 2013 big “D”. Obama will go down in history as the HERBERT HOOVER of 2013.
Granny Godzilla
December 13th, 2012
12:56 pm
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
12:29 pm
My side didn’t lose
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and dismissed.
Regnad Kcin
December 13th, 2012
12:56 pm
” Romney played Beethoven’s 9th while reciting Macbeth.’
I liked the part where he sang all the parts of the “Ode to Joy” while reciting MacBeth, all the time playing all the instruments in the orchestra simultaneously! Quite impressive!!
The limerick WAS really funny, though…”hermit named Dave” LOL
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
12:57 pm
“Morality” — “Is your pseudonym now NOBODY?”
You answered a question that wasn’t addressed to you.
When I want or need a reply from you, I’ll let you know.
Lord Help Us
December 13th, 2012
12:59 pm
Not bashful with a knife and fork sheets!!!
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
1:02 pm
Occupy – It is what it is and he said what he said. Rev Rat is about as much of a preacher as Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson. Reinterpreting the Bible to fit their message is quite common among their ilk.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
1:05 pm
NOBODY – you put my name on it and I replied to NOBODY….. if that’s you then fine.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
December 13th, 2012
1:07 pm
@JH Mama.
Pull back your partisan hackles.
The election’s over. You won – sort of. Obama’s my president too. Here’s hoping he gets a clue this term. We’re all swimming in the same big toilet and if BHO continues to screw up we all get flushed.
“Y’all”?. I’m independent fella – not that you’d have any idea about the concept. Independent means I can smell dog crap when it’s on the bottom of my shoe and not think it’s Chanel No 5. or rationalize the foul smell away by saying it could smell worse if it was my neighbor’s dog who left it.
I try to be nice. But for what? I acknowledge the limited validity of your Bain rant. You’re welcome.
But you choose to toss it back in my face along with 95% of the text of my original response while you spectacularly miss my point. Copying and pasting doesn’t lead to comprehension. You gotta read the text first.
Lemme try to spell it out for you. The homely girl analogy means that neither candidate… ah never mind.
Enjoy your delusion.
Peace.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
1:08 pm
You LOST the election but you just don’t know it yet……… HERBERT HOOVER of 2013.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
1:10 pm
Please do not insult homely girls.
Morality?
December 13th, 2012
1:11 pm
Just refer to them as a homely party as we do not want the gender card played here – again.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
1:16 pm
“Morality” — “NOBODY – you put my name on it”
I did not.
“and I replied to NOBODY….. if that’s you then fine.”
See, this is why no one here takes you seriously.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 13th, 2012
1:19 pm
Morality? “– It is what it is and he said what he said. Rev Rat is about as much of a preacher as Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson”
Yes, Jeremiah Wright may be a cynical operative like those individuals, but it’s a fact:
What he said about American empire was spot on.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
1:24 pm
E. E. Purgatory — “@JH Mama. Pull back your partisan hackles.”
You first.
“The election’s over. You won – sort of. Obama’s my president too. Here’s hoping he gets a clue this term. We’re all swimming in the same big toilet and if BHO continues to screw up we all get flushed.”
Indeed. So how about suggesting to your ideological compatriots that they become CONSTRUCTIVE with their criticisms instead of rehashing the same old same old?
“Y’all”?. I’m independent fella – not that you’d have any idea about the concept.”
Oh, my dear country mouse, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
I spent the first 20+ years of my voting life as a Republican and enlisted in the Army during the Reagan administration. I spent over a dozen years volunteering and phonebanking for different state GOPs until I finally lost confidence and faith in the party in 2003. So you can take that ‘no concept of independence’ obloquy and shove it riiiiiiiiight where the sun never shines.
“Independent means I can smell dog crap when it’s on the bottom of my shoe and not think it’s Chanel No 5. or rationalize the foul smell away by saying it could smell worse if it was my neighbor’s dog who left it.”
Which means what in this context? You don’t know me well enough to speak for me, so what are you trying to say?
“I try to be nice.”
I hadn’t noticed.
“But for what? I acknowledge the limited validity of your Bain rant. You’re welcome.”
That is wise on your part, given the unavailability of any coherent or valid response to it.
“But you choose to toss it back in my face along with 95% of the text of my original response while you spectacularly miss my point.”
If you’re going to come to an internet message board and demand good faith, then you need to *demonstrate* some. If you come to an IMB being a Richard, then expect others to be Richards right back to you.
If you’ve got a point and I missed it, then man up and try again instead of whining, complaining and trying to insult my intelligence.
“Copying and pasting doesn’t lead to comprehension. You gotta read the text first.”
Reading doesn’t lead to agreement.
“Lemme try to spell it out for you. The homely girl analogy means that neither candidate… ah never mind.”
Yes, I thought so. Expending effort’s too much for you. How SURPRISING. (laughing, pointing)
“Enjoy your delusion.”
Enjoy yours, country mouse.
Krystal'sBalls
December 13th, 2012
1:30 pm
Can we get some Lithium up in this B**** please!!!????
Or might that be “immoral” without an accompanying presecription?
Escaped from Email Purgatory
December 13th, 2012
1:37 pm
@JH Mama
Tisk, tisk Mary.
Emoticons (verbs enclosed in parentheses) and over-use of a point-counterpoint technique. Very impressive.
And your name calling leaves a lot to be deisred. Country mouse? Being a “Richard”? Come on man, grow a pair. A real man’s thesaurus has suitable synonyms lie “tool” that don’t scream ” I watch Glee and belong to Oprah’s book Club.
JH, you were beaten up a lot during PE in highschool, weren’t you.
That’s awful.
That’s
Escaped from Email Purgatory
December 13th, 2012
2:14 pm
@JH Mama
Let’s bury the hatchet (both arms extended in conciliatory manner).
We’re both just mopes with nothing better to do than post half-baked opinions on Bookman’s blog (wry smile).
Heck, I’m on vacation today. At least you have the good sense to use your employer’s time for this nonsense (wink and another wry smile)
As my dad used to say about opinions – they’re like a euphemism/expletive reference to a certain area of the body not suitable for mention here (nodding head backward while pointing over my shoulder with my thumb)
We’ll agree to disagree – how about that? (raised eyebrows and smile to denote sincerity and a willingness to reach an amicable settlement)
Lets shake on it (right hand extended in your directions).
Citizen of the World
December 13th, 2012
2:21 pm
The Democrat’s cooperation mindset trumped Republican’s competition mindset both in the messaging and the campaigning. Romney’s “I’m the boss man, I can fix everything, that’s all you need to know” persona probably infected his campaign from the top down, with information and ideas from boots on the ground never sought and decisions from the top never questioned. Just like too often happens in business.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 13th, 2012
5:02 pm
E. E. Purgatory — “@JH Mama Tisk, tisk Mary.”
Oh, and what a cute little poster it is, with the feminine names!
Never seen THAT mode of insult used on the internet before.
“Emoticons (verbs enclosed in parentheses) and over-use of a point-counterpoint technique. Very impressive.”
I post to please myself, within the bounds established by our blog host. If you don’t like it, that’s too bad.
“And your name calling leaves a lot to be deisred. Country mouse? Being a “Richard”? Come on man, grow a pair.”
Why bother? You leapt right out of the box with insults and presumptions about me despite not knowing a damn thing about me. What’s so worthwhile about *you* that I should expend greater effort? Why should I expend greater effort with someone who doesn’t know the first thing about me, but immediately launches into insult mode? In short, just who do you think you are?
“A real man’s thesaurus has suitable synonyms lie “tool” that don’t scream ” I watch Glee and belong to Oprah’s book Club.”
A real man doesn’t need to bring up what a real man would do or not do.
“JH, you were beaten up a lot during PE in highschool, weren’t you.”
Uh, no. And if you were standing right next to me, I think you’d understand why.
“That’s awful.”
“That’s”
And *that’s* a sentence fragment.
“@JH Mama Let’s bury the hatchet (both arms extended in conciliatory manner).”
Oh? In a single post, you switch from calling me “Mary” to wanting to be friendly? I think not. If you want to be friendly and sociable with me, then SHOW ME. Talk is cheap, and right now, yours is especially low-priced.
“We’re both just mopes with nothing better to do than post half-baked opinions on Bookman’s blog (wry smile).”
I don’t appreciate that sort of presumption and familiarity from people who don’t know me. You know *nothing* about me, and so far as I know, we’ve never posted at each other before today. Maybe you’d better spend some time getting to know me before you presume to speak for me.
“Heck, I’m on vacation today. At least you have the good sense to use your employer’s time for this nonsense (wink and another wry smile)”
What makes you think you know anything about my work or employment?
“As my dad used to say about opinions – they’re like a euphemism/expletive reference to a certain area of the body not suitable for mention here (nodding head backward while pointing over my shoulder with my thumb)”
How very appropriate that you should choose that particular part of the body for your illustration.
“We’ll agree to disagree – how about that? (raised eyebrows and smile to denote sincerity and a willingness to reach an amicable settlement)”
How about we agree that you’re a boorish jackass who’s been quite rude and presumptuous today, and who might benefit from amending his posting behavior?
“Lets shake on it (right hand extended in your directions).”
I don’t have a problem being friendly with people with whom I don’t agree (on any number of topics). That said, I expect a minimum level of politeness and good will from them, and they of me. You, Artless Noob, have not demonstrated anything remotely like that, and despite the fact that we might actually prove to have common ground on a number of topics, I quite simply have no desire to ‘bury the hatchet’ with whoever you happen to be.
If you’d like to drop the jackass act, back up and start over, that’s fine. I’m willing to do that. But there is nothing I can envision that would make me want to socialize or be friendly with you right now, given your behavior of today.
The best you’re going to get out of me is a clean slate and a fresh start, if you’re willing to take it. Don’t push it by looking for a hug or a handshake. I don’t hug or shake hands with strangers who call me “Mary.”
saywhat?
December 13th, 2012
5:04 pm
Seems to me that republiconserviteatardibiterians are all in favor of meritocracy and the free market of ideas until a democrat shows more merit than their guy, and the market rejects their ideas as sucking harder than sinkwich on Reagan’s knob.
Too bad.
Dharma Bum
December 13th, 2012
6:31 pm
As several others have pointed out… neither the Democrats (Party of Fear) nor the Republicans (Party of Hate) are political groups we should be proud of.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
December 14th, 2012
7:55 am
@JH Mama
Based on my limited discourse with you, seems you can give as good as you take. All those copy and paste of comments taken out of context followed by your well-crafted zingers – come on. That’s a bit catty, don’t you think?
What do you expect in response? “Thank you JH Mama. May I have another?”
Bottom line is that I really meant no offense – and I apologize for any you took due to my comments.
I will say that you take my posts way too seriously. Haven’t figured out if that’s my fault or yours.
PS I saw your “downstairs” reference in Bookman’s blog on Chrisite. It was kind of cryptic. Your comments above weren’t posted yet, so I assumed….
Rabbit
December 14th, 2012
8:00 am
For those who think ‘blame Romney’ justifies no party introspection, consider this: Romney was indeed a weak candidate, but the party machinery surrounding him is responsible for the grossly out of touch strategies that resulted in defeat. Also, the line Boehner uses, “the country kept a Republican majority in the house, so they want…” the house to continue to be obstructionist is simply incorrect. The House is Republican because of the broken system of redistricting. Without congressional districts being gerrymandered into solid, predictable voting units, the House Leadership is out. Doubt it? Look at the senate where the electoral college you decry doesn’t factor into the outcomes, just people voting.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 14th, 2012
9:21 am
E. E. Purgatory — “Based on my limited discourse with you, seems you can give as good as you take.”
Of that you may be assured.
“All those copy and paste of comments taken out of context followed by your well-crafted zingers – come on. That’s a bit catty, don’t you think?”
If you don’t like what I have to say, then you’re perfectly capable of scrolling right on past my comments, I suspect. Besides, “Fisking” — the method I use in replying on this blog — has a long and notable history on the internet.
“What do you expect in response? “Thank you JH Mama. May I have another?”
How about ‘whoops, I seem to have come on too strong. Let’s back up and start over’ instead of this doubling-down jackassery you seem to prefer.
“Bottom line is that I really meant no offense – and I apologize for any you took due to my comments.”
I’m not going to directly accept your apology, but I *will* stand by my offer to start over with you if you’re willing to do so as well.
“I will say that you take my posts way too seriously. Haven’t figured out if that’s my fault or yours.”
You employ a degree of sarcasm and familiarity which, while it would be certainly appropriate to a pair of regular posters who know each other well, is definitely INappropriate between individuals online who do *not* know each other well, Plus, your generous sprinkling of insults and presumption don’t do a thing to defang your criticism or to make it look like good-natured jest.
This is why I said several times that you don’t know me well enough to talk to me that way.
“PS I saw your “downstairs” reference in Bookman’s blog on Chrisite. It was kind of cryptic. Your comments above weren’t posted yet, so I assumed….”
Pages here don’t auto-refresh. You may simply have not manually refreshed this page quickly enough to see my comment in this thread, as I did post it before notifying you it was here. Also, on rare occasions, some posters experience weird timestamps; there are numerous examples of replies to posts being timestamped *before* the post that was replied to. That’s certainly another possibility.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
December 14th, 2012
10:21 am
@JH Mama
So be it.
You’re demanding a level of deference – perhaps capitulation is a better word – I don’t have the capacity to provide. Heck, you make my wife’s ‘Honey Do” List look like a thank you note.
It sort of begs the question: “Who in the heck do you think you are, anyway?”
I’ll take your many suggestions for my improvement in blog decorum under advisement. They do have some validity, no doubt.
But check yourself as well. Talk about self important. Jeez.
I look forward to reading your comments in future Bookman blogs.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 14th, 2012
1:45 pm
E. E. Purgatory — “@JH Mama So be it. You’re demanding a level of deference”
Rejected. I’m not demanding any sort of deference. I’m demanding *politeness.*
“– perhaps capitulation is a better word –”
Denied. I’m not demanding any sort of capitulation. I’m *offering* a fresh start.
“I don’t have the capacity to provide.”
Shrug. Fine. You’re incapable of saying ‘you know what, JHM — I came on too strongly and I can see how that might have set you on edge. Let’s start over and see if we can get off on the right foot.’
Thanks for admitting that serious shortcoming on your part. It might have saved us both some time if you’d introduced yourself with that.
“Heck, you make my wife’s ‘Honey Do” List look like a thank you note.”
I don’t know you or your wife, nor do I know anything about your relationship, so I’m afraid I don’t take your meaning here.
“It sort of begs the question: “Who in the heck do you think you are, anyway?”
I think I’m a stranger to you, and I think if you met me in public and addressed me the way you did here yesterday, you’d be wiping a bloody nose and picking yourself up off the sidewalk. You presumed a level of familiarity with me that was entirely inappropriate, and began our discussion with repeated insults. I recognize that barriers fall away more quickly online than in person, but issuing presumptuous and personal insults to someone you’ve just met is as likely to mark you as a jerk and a boor online as it is offline.
“I’ll take your many suggestions for my improvement in blog decorum under advisement. They do have some validity, no doubt.”
I appreciate your willingness to consider them.
“But check yourself as well.”
I’d be more open to considering your current criticisms if you hadn’t *commenced* your discourse with me with so much in the way of overfamiliar and *personal* criticism. Consequently, as of right now, I’m not particularly amenable to hearing or considering your critique of me.
“Talk about self important. Jeez.”
Speak for yourself.
“I look forward to reading your comments in future Bookman blogs.”
And I to yours.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
December 14th, 2012
2:13 pm
@JH Mama
“I think I’m a stranger to you, and I think if you met me in public and addressed me the way you did here yesterday, you’d be wiping a bloody nose and picking yourself up off the sidewalk.”
You’re getting perilously close to making physical threats. You need to calm down. I’m afraid what you call a provocative might not stand up in court. That’s a layman’s opinion on my part.
One thing that might be important for you to consider is the fact that we are interacting on a political blog. We interact by sharing (imposing, some might say) our opinions on politics, religion, race, etc on our fellow posters.
If we were in public, no doubt these conversations wouldn’t be broached in the first place. Our home training taught us all that such matters aren’t discussed in polite company. Why? Because polite company doesn’t give a fig about our opinions on politics, religion and race.
That’s why we frequent political blogs.
It seems to me, the more we engage in dialogue, the clearer it becomes, that we don’t need to engage in dialogue.
Best of luck to you – but watch those threats. Totally out of line.
Escaped from Email Purgatory
December 14th, 2012
2:59 pm
@J H Mama
At this point, I don’t think anybody but you and I are posting comments to this blog. So here goes.
After a second read of our entire conversation yesterday, I see your point (to an extent). You’re kinda huffy and pompous, but what I said could have been said better in some instances and can’t be excused by your condescending tone.
Like you say, we don’t know each other, so you took my smack talk literally and it offended you. That’s understandable.
I realize that my latest comments expressed here might only escalate an already tense situation, but when I contribute to a dysfunctional situation, I need to acknowledge it to the other party.
Couple this with my mea culpas from earlier posts, and you got all I have to give.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 17th, 2012
9:54 am
E. E. Purgatory — “You’re getting perilously close to making physical threats.”
In your opinion.
“You need to calm down.”
I am, have been and remain quite calm. Heed your own advice.
“I’m afraid what you call a provocative might not stand up in court. That’s a layman’s opinion on my part.”
(laughing) It certainly is a layman’s opinion on your part. When you think you’ve got a cause for legal action, let me know.
“Best of luck to you – but watch those threats. Totally out of line.”
Come on less like a jerk and you might not find yourself mistakenly perceiving threats around every corner, Mister.