The taxpayer, the Falcons and the question of priorities

As owner of the Atlanta Falcons, Arthur Blank runs a class operation that represents the city well. And as such arrangements go, the proposal to build a $1 billion Falcons stadium downtown with $300 million in taxpayer subsidies is reasonable and probably fiscally sound.

But still ….

The NFL is easily the most profitable sports league on the planet. All 32 of its teams are included in Forbes’ magazine’s list of the 50 most valuable sports franchises on the planet. (The Falcons are listed at 35th with a value of $831 million, up from $545 million when Blank bought the team in 2002.) And because live sports programming is becoming more and more valuable to advertisers, lucrative new contracts will bring more the league more than $6 billion a year in TV revenue beginning in 2014. That represents a 50 to 60 percent increase.

Now contrast that prosperity with the fiscal plight of state and local government. Thousands of workers have been laid off in Georgia, including police officers, firefighters and teachers. We tell ourselves that education is the key to prosperity, but in many cases we can’t afford to keep our kids in school for the once-standard 180 days a year. Our transportation infrastructure is inadequate to meet the demands placed upon it, yet any attempt to raise taxes to generate the necessary money is rejected.

Overall, we’re told, government can no longer do the things we want it to do; it must do only those things that we need it to do.

Given those realities, why should the Falcons demand that the public subsidize their new stadium, particularly when the publicly funded Georgia Dome continues to serve that purpose admirably?

The short answer is also the honest answer — because they can. They don’t really need the money, or even a new stadium for that matter, but in a sports-mad world they can get it. So why not? Everyone else is doing it. It’s a “bigger is better” league, from quarterbacks that go 6-5, 275 pounds to stadiums that charge fans a five-figure fee just for the right to later buy tickets. And in that hyper-competitive world, it is considered unacceptable for the Falcons to be condemned to play in the 20-year-old Georgia Dome, the 10th-oldest stadium in the league.

Under the proposed terms, the Georgia World Congress Center Authority would supply the land for a new stadium, plus contribute roughly a third of the construction cost. That public contribution would be raised through a 30-year extension of the hotel/motel tax. Proponents of the deal argue that because the hotel/motel tax is paid by visitors to Atlanta, rather than by residents of metro Atlanta, it is somehow less of a tax. However, it is also money that by a simple act of the Legislature could be diverted to purposes more crucial than subsidizing a quite profitable sports franchise.

Under the terms of the proposal, the Falcons “will retain revenue streams from the new stadium, including tickets, premium seating, food and beverage, sponsorships, naming rights and certain parking revenue.” That’s for all events at the stadium, not just Falcons games. In return, the Falcons will pay the state authority $2.5 million a year. For the sake of context, that’s about what the team pays an offensive lineman.

And again, in the universe of such deals, the Falcons could perhaps have demanded even better treatment.

Assessed from a purely practical point of view, such a deal is still hard to justify. But this is the world of sports, in which rationality and practicality are often bench players to irrationality and emotion. If any other line of work inflicted the concussions, the crippling injuries, the long-term brain damage and shortened lifespans of football, for example, it would have been legislated out of existence long ago.

Instead, we pack stadiums and find ourselves yelling at our TV sets, driven by the human thirst for pride, glory and rushes of adrenalin, even if they have to be experienced second-hand and subsidized with money that would be much better spent elsewhere.

– Jay Bookman

702 comments Add your comment

Joe Hussein Mama

December 12th, 2012
2:38 pm

Doom — “Dude don’t even waste any more of your time trying to do your tap dancing on this issue.”

Dude, don’t even bother trying to read minds and make people out as worse than you actually are.

“Your behavior in blaming the victim is nothing short of despicable.”

Your repetitive attempts to revise and rewrite what other people say is emblematic of the kind of dishonesty permeating the GOP today.

“Plain and simple.”

That’s a good description of you, Doom. Especially the “simple” part.

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
2:38 pm

“Except that NO ONE is “downplaying” or “blaming the victim”….”

Looks like sandflea is living in some kind of alternate universe. Either that or he lost his eyesight and is unable to read his or other libs comments regarding the victim.

Williebkind

December 12th, 2012
2:38 pm

“It’s breathtaking to see the degree to which the lack of comprehension has spread in our country.”

There, that is a more accurate statement.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 12th, 2012
2:40 pm

Doom — “Either that or he lost his eyesight and is unable to read his or other libs comments regarding the victim.”

And there it is in a nutshell. Once you say it, Doom thinks he gets to decide what you meant. It doesn’t matter what you *actually* meant or what you were trying to say — Doom asserts ownership over what you said, what you thought and what you meant.

It’s one of the most pathetic debating techniques I’ve ever seen.

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
2:40 pm

Joe Mama,

Go ahead Joe. Go ahead and get in the last word so that we can move on. We gotta let Mr. Oneupmanship get his last word in or else he will be whining all day long. Still won’t change your despicable behavior though. But go ahead Joe. Last word from JHM coming in 3, 2, 1…

Andy

December 12th, 2012
2:43 pm

How about the contract says the city tax will kick in to Arthur $100 mil (up to $300 mil) for every Super Bowl the city gets in the next 15 years? Lets see how confident Arthur is…..

I’ll bet anyone ATL only gets one Super Bowl out of this.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 12th, 2012
2:43 pm

Doom: What kind of idiot…?

Are you looking in the mirror again? Perhaps we need to have someone stencil on your mirror “The idiot you see here daily is you!”

Steve-USA "Right to Work = Freedom"

December 12th, 2012
2:43 pm

getalife – “If you go out looking for a fight, you will find one. I will go to the next tea party and start yelling at the cons to see what happens and film it. Fair enough?”

The “they had no choice but to punch me” argument. More bed time stories you tell your kids.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 12th, 2012
2:44 pm

Doom — “Joe Mama, Go ahead Joe. Go ahead and get in the last word so that we can move on.”

You lose, punk. :D

That Black Guy

December 12th, 2012
2:44 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

I just wondered if there even WAS a city that had both the money and desire to bring in an NFL team if we called Blank’s bluff and he went shopping for a new home. Given the fiscal belt-tightening of today, I can’t imagine that there is such a city,
________________________________
LA is the only city I could think of. They are planning to build a stadium, although they don’t have a team, HOPING to lure a team there.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/8581593/farmer-field-los-angeles-set-built-disputes-settled

getalife

December 12th, 2012
2:45 pm

Union busting is class warfare but the unions fight back.

“There will be blood”.

“Civil war!”

Don’t start none and there will be none.

Good for the unions fighting back to class warfare.

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
2:45 pm

‘Reporter’ continues to ask rude, nasty and presumptuous questions, much like some con posters here on Jay’s blog.

Can someone please tell me what “rude, nasty, and presumptous questions” the reporter asked? Just curious as to what the kooks think a “rude, nasty, and presumptous” question is. And then I’m curious as to why the kooks think that asking a “rude, nasty, presumptous” question justifies a physical assault. Any kook care to take that on???

Erwin's cat

December 12th, 2012
2:45 pm

I’ll bet anyone ATL only gets one Super Bowl out of this

probably, but that’s not Blanks motivation

JamVet

December 12th, 2012
2:46 pm

Tell Arthur Blank he can take his new stadium and shove it up his 1% ___.

No more socialism for the rich and capitalism for the rest of us…

Joe Hussein Mama

December 12th, 2012
2:46 pm

Doom — “Can someone please tell me what “rude, nasty, and presumptous questions” the reporter asked? Just curious as to what the kooks think a “rude, nasty, and presumptous” question is.”

Maybe you should watch the tapes, Doom. (pointing, laughing) :D

Andy

December 12th, 2012
2:47 pm

probably, but that’s not Blanks motivation

But it is his sales pitch

getalife

December 12th, 2012
2:47 pm

“probably, but that’s not Blanks motivation”

Do tell cat.

He wants more luxury for his friends?

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
2:48 pm

What kind of idiot…?

Well the poster in the middle 2:43 post of course. Kinda obvious aint it.

RB from Gwinnett

December 12th, 2012
2:48 pm

Keep, “RB, you still can’t figure out that the “fact” you claim now as uninformed and ignorant “opinion” still makes you look foolish. But how silly you are for just not admitting you were wrong. Absolutely wrong. Seems to be a foolish problem many of you conned have.”

I have no idea exactly how much PJ’s pizza will go up, but I guarantee you it will go up. Feel free to prove me wrong when the law actually goes into effect.

Just so you know, the food cost on a typical pizza is a little over $1. That $.11 to $.14 increase you quoted from another blogger vs. the actual franchise is around a 10% increase in that food cost which at 22% of sales, would be a 2.2% hit to the owners bottom line. If he makes 10% profit, he can either take a 20% pay cut or pass the cost on to you.

Enjoy the pizza, Keep! No charge for the lesson.

jo yo

December 12th, 2012
2:49 pm

Lets make a deal. The Falcons win a superbowl then we will discuss helping pay for new stadium.

getalife

December 12th, 2012
2:49 pm

I suggest Americans follow the unions lead and fight back to class warfare.

Do it for your kids.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 12th, 2012
2:49 pm

And then I’m curious as to why the kooks think that asking a “rude, nasty, presumptous” question justifies a physical assault.

Perhaps you need to look up “fighting words” caselaw during your hissy fit. Again, NO ONE is claiming that any type of question justifies a physical assault. However we will not feign “horror” because someone tries to make news by “provoking” an attack. We realize you are incapable of an intelligent assessment of the posts and the facts, especially in light of your prior stances on other verbal and physical attacks.

Georgia

December 12th, 2012
2:49 pm

Postcards from the cliff. Today, Bernanke defended coining the phrase, fiscal cliff, by saying that fiscal policy provides support for the economy and a contraction would cause a drop, but he also said that complaints about the choice of words is just a matter of taste.

Erwin's cat

December 12th, 2012
2:49 pm

,i>But it is his sales pitch

it was part of it…Goodell said it himself to the mayor..”The best way to get a Superbowl is to build a new stadium “

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 12th, 2012
2:51 pm

RB, you have no facts and no lesson. Sorry if I don’t accept your clownish post of numbers as “fact” without support. You have already proven your “opinions” are not based on reality.

Erwin's cat

December 12th, 2012
2:53 pm

He wants more luxury for his friends?

he wants more money for the team…luxury boxes will help get him there. If anyone thinks this isn’t about money…think again
The city seems to get it as they stand to profit from it as well

getalife

December 12th, 2012
2:54 pm

You need to legalize gambling to compete with New Orleans.

Also, a Bourbon Street party street is needed.

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
2:54 pm

“Maybe you should watch the tapes, Doom”

I did. And I didn’t see anything that a reasonable, sane person would see as justifying a physical assault. Then again ya’ll aren’t exactly reasonable, sane people so I guess I have my answer right there. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAH

Regnad Kcin

December 12th, 2012
2:55 pm

Keep, billboards ARE facts!

That Black Guy

December 12th, 2012
2:55 pm

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer…and got the scars to priove it!

December 12th, 2012
10:08 am
Jay, let’s move on from this one…

Bottom line, it doesn’t matter to the work for wages man. he can’t afford to go to the stadium, new or old, on what he makes. – I go to at least 2 games a year, and I’m an Eagles fan. I go to Philly for a game and I go to one of their away games. I plan and save up for it.

All he has is his TV and is only if the game comes on Sunday at 1PM, otherwise he can’t watch the Thursday or Sunday night games because he has to get up early to go to work. Professional football caters to the rich man and the West Coast Set. Why else show two eastern teams playing at 830 at night? And don’t get me started about kids…they too are part of the “working class” with school. Nope…it’s not a working man’s game anymore. College bowl games are the same way, corporate games played too late for the kids and working class. Alabama and Notre dame being the worst. To the working class, night time games have become games of next day highlights.

*Are you saying that you can’t stay up until 11 pm or midnight?*

Do you use the phrase “Stay off my lawn dagnabbit!” often? :lol:

Andy

December 12th, 2012
2:56 pm

it was part of it…Goodell said it himself to the mayor..”The best way to get a Superbowl is to build a new stadium “

Key word being “a” SB

No doubt in my mind ATL gets ONE, but many times over the sales pitch acts like we’ll get more than one which will never happen due to this being such a chitty city in February with little to do for an entire week.

getalife

December 12th, 2012
2:57 pm

cat,

So the welfare leads to revenue sharing.

Down right liberal.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 12th, 2012
2:58 pm

Kcin, I agree that the existence of billboard is a fact. What is printed on them may not be. ;)

UNCLE SAMANTHA

December 12th, 2012
2:58 pm

iebkind

December 12th, 2012
2:34 pm
WILLIE

are you PRO-CHOICE?

I dont like it but I would never interfere with the decision.

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not that

when it comes to deciding if you should or should not JOIN A UNION………. are you PRO-CHOICE?

Andy

December 12th, 2012
2:58 pm

The only thing ATL needs like NOLA is a Cat 5 hurricane to level the slums and permanently run most of the riff raff out of the state just like Katrina did.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 12th, 2012
3:00 pm

…run most of the riff raff out of the state just like Katrina did.

There’s your sign.

Erwin's cat

December 12th, 2012
3:00 pm

Down right liberal.

I know, I got called out by Uncle Samantha :D

Hey, I just want Blank to continue to improve the franchise and compete. They play against some pretty big money as it is

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
3:00 pm

“However we will not feign “horror” because someone tries to make news by “provoking” an attack”

You coulda just dispesensed with the rest of your completely bullshyte post and just said “Its the victim’s fault.”

Why do birds suddenly appear…

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
3:01 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 12th, 2012
3:02 pm

Joe: It’s one of the most pathetic debating techniques I’ve ever seen.

Absolutely. It only works in the mind of a pipsqueak

St Simons - aboriginal BOOTAKOOK 2014

December 12th, 2012
3:03 pm

sure Arthur – a $ 100 million for every Super Bowl Ring.

and you give us $100 mil for every choke….cha ching

Regnad Kcin

December 12th, 2012
3:03 pm

“when it comes to deciding if you should or should not JOIN A UNION………. are you PRO-CHOICE?”

You make the choice when you choose to take the job.

Brosephus™

December 12th, 2012
3:03 pm

Kam

You in the city or mountains?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 12th, 2012
3:04 pm

Doom: You coulda just dispesensed with the rest of your completely bullshyte post and just said “Its the victim’s fault.”

As pointed out before, you don’t get to “rephrase” what I said to match your false hissy fit. You lost again speedo boy or you just being a doomhole once again?

JamVet

December 12th, 2012
3:04 pm

getalife, WAY too many racist Republicans like KKK Andy around here for this city to ever be anything more than a morgue compared to the Big Easy…

getalife

December 12th, 2012
3:06 pm

cat,

They are competing in the stadium you have now.

We won the world championship in our old stadium.

Your dome is fine.

Andy

December 12th, 2012
3:06 pm

KKK Andy

That’s a knee slapper

barking frog

December 12th, 2012
3:07 pm

JamVet
I am a member of the KKK club…that is Krystal Krispy Kreme club.

getalife

December 12th, 2012
3:07 pm

Jam,

Yup, slap full of cons.

They do love welfare for the wealthy.

Andy

December 12th, 2012
3:08 pm

The Republican part is funny too. I wouldn’t shake Romney’s or Obama’s hand if given the opportunity.

Erwin's cat

December 12th, 2012
3:09 pm

get
It’s not about the dome…in all honesty
It’s about what money the Falcons leave on the table that goes to GWCC.
This could likely all be resolved with a new lease agreement…I have no idea why it’s not the first approach.

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
3:10 pm

“you don’t get to “rephrase” what I said”

Yes I do. I just did. Deal with it sandflea.

Every time Doomy is near…

LeemanBennetRocks

December 12th, 2012
3:10 pm

Insane that a city that can’t fix its sewers and water system would agree to fund $200 million-plus in improvements to build a stadium that no one needs.

Oops, I misspoke. Mr. Blank needs the stadium, so, voila, let’s build one.

Complete and total waste. If Arthur Blank wants a stadium to increase the value of his nearly $1 billion franchise, let him pay for it, lock, stock and barrel.

Since he’s owned the Falcons, the value of the franchise has more than doubled. What’s that increase done for this city? Nothing, absolutely nothing. It has not improved the area to the west and south of the dome, nor has it improved the lives of the people who live there.

I honestly have great respect for Mr. Blank. He’s a very smart man who has worked hard to make his fortune. But it is not up the citizens of this city and state to continue to fund the growth of his fortune, nor to bow to lame threats of moving the franchise.

Last time I looked, the city of Los Angeles is doing pretty well without an NFL team. Let him build his fortune somewhere else, if necessary.

rivercard

December 12th, 2012
3:12 pm

RB- let me make sure I understand. Pizza food costs around $1 per pie and food costs 20% of revenue. So, Papa is charging $5 per pie?

If so, Politics be damned I might go try one.

TaxPayer

December 12th, 2012
3:12 pm

G

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Thks for that one, Red.

Erwin's cat

December 12th, 2012
3:13 pm

Last time I looked, the city of Los Angeles is doing pretty well without an NFL team. …

I guess you missed The Black Guys post

UNCLE SAMANTHA

December 12th, 2012
3:14 pm

not in a right to work state

its your CHOICE

something ALL LIBERALS should favor

and individuals RIGHT TO CHOSE and not have anyone tell them what to do

Joe Hussein Mama

December 12th, 2012
3:16 pm

Doom — “I did. And I didn’t see anything that a reasonable, sane person would see as justifying a physical assault.”

Objection! Assuming facts not in evidence!

F

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Peter

December 12th, 2012
3:17 pm

Well priorities are……Corrupt government and Judges under the Republican’s……

Yup a Judge can buy his stripper girlfriend cocaine and pot… but before being charged resign with full retirement benefits in this state…..

Talk about ripping off the Georgia taxpayer !

But hey Republican’s run all…….

Erwin's cat

December 12th, 2012
3:17 pm

its your CHOICE

it always is…in every state

and you should CHOSE to think for yourself

Don Coyote

December 12th, 2012
3:18 pm

The hotel/motel tax receipts will only continue to diminish even if this more grand temple to the football gods is built. After paying off the debt on the Georgia Dome it would be better to utilize it to convert Underground to a casino complex to help lure the convention business back to Atlanta. Without year-round conventions the hotel/motel tax will not support the debt this unneeded stadium will incur.

To Arthur Blank I would ask, How much is enough? You have a good thing going with the Falcons. How much money do you want to die with?

To Atlantans I would ask, Why do you feel the need to “support” professional athletes that are being paid millions to pound on each other each week? They would just as happily go to another city for the money anyway and regardless of posturing the “team” concept goes out the window if their agent can swing them a better deal elsewhere. As Seinfield once said, “you are just rooting for laundry”.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 12th, 2012
3:20 pm

Doom, when you lie, you lost. :lol: And you have lost, child.

TaxPayer

December 12th, 2012
3:20 pm

moonbat betty

December 12th, 2012
3:20 pm

We don’t need a new dome. If we could have one with a retractable roof, that would be cool.

We should be guaranteed X number of Super Bowls if we did build a new one.

On a side note, the most hilarious idea I ever heard was building a casino at Under Ground Atlanta.

indigo

December 12th, 2012
3:21 pm

Erwin’s cat – 2:34

1. I said “taxpayer’s money”, not “the money collected from hotel taxes”.

2. Jay said “a simple act of the Legislature” could divert this hotel tax money.

The bottom line question is – do you think we actually need a new stadium or could this tax money, wherever it comes from, be put to better uses?

TaxPayer

December 12th, 2012
3:22 pm

FIVE DOLLAR PIZZAS! Talk like that could cause a riot.

JKL2

December 12th, 2012
3:23 pm

Jay- the proposal to build a $1 billion Falcons stadium downtown with $300 million in taxpayer subsidies is reasonable and probably fiscally sound.

What are you worried about? It’s free money from the government Jay. You have shown us repeatedly that debts don’t matter since obama got elected. I think we should raise it up to $1B so everyone can have cliamte controled seats.

Do they take EBT cards at the concession stand?

Common Sense isn't very Common

December 12th, 2012
3:23 pm

TP

If PJ’s pizzas cost $1 to make, he is overcharging for quality at $1.50 :-)

indigo

December 12th, 2012
3:24 pm

Doom – 2:54

Adolescent boy is as adolescent boy does.

Have you finished your homework yet?

Erwin's cat

December 12th, 2012
3:24 pm

indigo
It has been proven here again and again..It doesn’t matter what I actually think :D

I will make no political or logical sense today. I want outdoor football and a competitive team and will say most anything to get it

UNCLE SAMANTHA

December 12th, 2012
3:24 pm

its not your CHOICE if you want a job but don’t want to join a UNION
thats why RIGHT TO WORK is growing and unions are dying

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
3:25 pm

“Doom, when you lie, you lost. And you have lost, child.”

Nope. No lie though you like to constantly throw the accusation around without a shred of proof.

Just like keep they long to be close to Doom….

Erwin's cat

December 12th, 2012
3:26 pm

Uncle Samantha
No one can make anyone join a union in any state for any reason

Joe Hussein Mama

December 12th, 2012
3:26 pm

E. Cat — “I will make no political or logical sense today. I want outdoor football and a competitive team and will say most anything to get it”

Okay, then. Based on that, I can understand where you’re coming from. :D

I still think Blank should build it himself, but I can certainly understand your position now.

Kat can haz cheezstadium? >^..^<

moonbat betty

December 12th, 2012
3:27 pm

“I want outdoor football and a competitive team and will say most anything to get it”

E Cat, you got that right.

Indoor football just ain’t right!

Erwin's cat

December 12th, 2012
3:27 pm

Thanks JHM
I should have been transparent from the get go

Common Sense isn't very Common

December 12th, 2012
3:28 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

December 12th, 2012
3:28 pm

SoCo/Bro

I’m in the mtns, but I just talked to BOTH so I’m probably coming in tonite.

stands for decibels

December 12th, 2012
3:29 pm

helicopter ben SHEETZ.

Erwin's cat

December 12th, 2012
3:29 pm

>^..^<

too funny

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 12th, 2012
3:31 pm

Poor speedo boy is making no sense. A doomed dog wont hunt.

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
3:32 pm

Joe mama,

Sorry punking but you’re still not making any sense. Not that I expected you to of course.

I’ll give you a chance though being the sort of charitable fella that I am. Don’t blow it Joe. Tell ya what. Why don’t you just post one of those “rude, nasty, and presumptous questions” the reporter asked that justifies a physical assault?

The smart money sez that you’re full of shyte and that you won’t post one of these “rude,nasty, and presumptous questions” that the reporter asked that justifies an attack for one reason. Because they don’t exist.

Prediction- Joe Mama will respond with a lot of tap dancing and bluster to avoid posting one of those supposedly “rude, nasty,and presumptous questions”.

Now everybody stand back and watch as I make Joe mama try and tap dance his way out of his own bullshyte.

Common Sense isn't very Common

December 12th, 2012
3:34 pm

Bro

I heard Kam was coming to Atlanta because there was a shotgun toting father in NC saying something about his daughter swallowing a soccer ball

:-)

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
3:35 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 12th, 2012
3:31 pm
Poor speedo boy is making no sense. A doomed dog wont hunt.

Nope. I’m making too much sense and your little liberal noggin just aint used to rational thought. It makes the emotionalism synapses in your little noggin explode.

Keep longs to be close to Doom….

Joe Hussein Mama

December 12th, 2012
3:46 pm

Doom — “Joe mama, Sorry punking but you’re still not making any sense. Not that I expected you to of course.”

Well, of course you’re not following me, Doomie. You’d need several more degrees than you already possess just to keep up with me. :D

“I’ll give you a chance though being the sort of charitable fella that I am. Don’t blow it Joe. Tell ya what. Why don’t you just post one of those “rude, nasty, and presumptous questions” the reporter asked that justifies a physical assault?”

Sure, Doom! Just as soon as you show me where I or anyone else here said that such a question actually *justified* a physical assault! (laughing, pointing) :D

Now don’t blow it,, Doomy. That’s just the kind of charitable fellow I am. :D

“The smart money sez that you’re full of shyte and that you won’t post one of these “rude,nasty, and presumptous questions” that the reporter asked that justifies an attack for one reason. Because they don’t exist.”

Your “smart” money loses. And that’s because nobody here *claimed* that such a question justified a physical assualt. (laughing, pointing) :D

“Prediction- Joe Mama will respond with a lot of tap dancing and bluster to avoid posting one of those supposedly “rude, nasty,and presumptous questions”.

Revelation — Poor lying Doom will once again shriek with rage when reality refuses to behave in the way he wants it to.

“Now everybody stand back and watch as I make Joe mama try and tap dance his way out of his own bullshyte.”

No, get closer! Everybody come watch Doom melt down when he realizes that nobody actually *said* what he *imagines* they did. (giggling) :D

gbl

December 12th, 2012
3:47 pm

If we spend money on a new stadium we can enjoy watching and supporting the Falcons until they move to greener pastures…

or….let’s spending more money on public housing to support those tenants forever…..who never move to greener pastures…

Andy

December 12th, 2012
3:50 pm

Why not use the old stadium as high density public housing or better yet a prison?

k483

December 12th, 2012
3:51 pm

I am a unapologetic conservative who reads this column mostly for the amusement, but I have to agree with Jay’s assertion in this case. The reason the Falcons are seeking government help is because they know the numbers won’t work from a private-subsidy standpoint. Like so many of these programs, they only cash flow if the cash can flow from the point of a gun. But on its on it does not make financial sense. I just wonder how far the $300M would go to cover promised police/fire/teacher raises….

Georgia

December 12th, 2012
4:03 pm

Blank deserves a new stadium. He brought us affordable hardware. Come on, nobody has ever thanked him for the greatest store ever. Thank you, Mr blank, and good luck in the playoffs.

Thulsa Doom

December 12th, 2012
4:06 pm

Yep. Just as I imagined. Just like I said. Rather than producing one of those “rude, nasty, and presumptous” statements that joe mama claimed the reporter made joe mama just did one big tap dance around it. Just like I said. I knew he was lying and proved it. Again.

Dance for me Joe. Since you can’t produce one of those supposedly “rude, nasty, and presumptous” statements that you claimed the reporter made I want to see you tap dance some more. Tap dance for me sweetie!

Joe Hussein Mama

December 12th, 2012
4:12 pm

Doom — :”Yep. Just as I imagined. Just like I said. Rather than producing one of those “rude, nasty, and presumptous” statements that joe mama claimed the reporter made”

Doom lies again, for Joe Mama made no such claim. (pointing, laughing) :D

“joe mama just did one big tap dance around it. Just like I said. I knew he was lying and proved it. Again.”

Poor, lying Doom. Can’t face facts. (giggling) :D

This is what happens when you try to speak for people, Doom. Nobody said what you claimed. Not a single person here said that such a question would justify a physical assault. (laughing) :D

“Dance for me Joe. Since you can’t produce one of those supposedly “rude, nasty, and presumptous” statements that you claimed the reporter made”

I made no such claim, Doom. That was you, dishonestly trying to speak for me.

Poor, lying, easily-led Doom. Poor, foolish Doom. (laughing, pointing) :D

“I want to see you tap dance some more. Tap dance for me sweetie!”

Can’t, Doom. I’m too busy sticking a fork in you. :D

Joe Hussein Mama

December 12th, 2012
4:19 pm

Here’s where you failed, Doom.

Why don’t you just post one of those “rude, nasty, and presumptous questions” the reporter asked that justifies a physical assault?

Neither I nor any other poster here *said* that such a question justified a physical assault. And all I had to do to sucker you in was to tell you to watch the tape.

When you watched it and didn’t see any questions that would have justified a physical assault, you figured you had me. :D But what you didn’t catch onto is that I didn’t say that there WERE any questions in there that justified a physical assault. You just FIGURED that’s what I meant, and since you’re too thick to actually ask me what I meant, away you jumped to the conclusion.

The WRONG conclusion. (laughing, pointing) :D

Once again, neither I nor any poster here claimed that any sort of question JUSTIFIED a physical assault, your dishonest attempts to revise our words and intents notwithstanding.

Now carry your beaten behind home and smarten yourself up, Doom. And stop trying to rewrite what others say.

Georgia

December 12th, 2012
4:46 pm

Postcards from the cliff. Steve Forbes vs Howard Dean. Forbes thinks we’ve been here before, and can grow our way out of it. Dean thinks we’ve never had this global economy, and old solutions won’t work. Especially with the unprecedented debt.

barking frog

December 12th, 2012
4:54 pm

The small business administration should be working overtime.

Brosephus™

December 12th, 2012
4:55 pm

That Black Guy

December 12th, 2012
5:08 pm

Erwin’s cat

December 12th, 2012
3:13 pm
Last time I looked, the city of Los Angeles is doing pretty well without an NFL team. …

I guess you missed The Black Guys post
________________________
HEY!!
It’s THAT Black Guy.

You Kat, you.

barking frog

December 12th, 2012
5:23 pm

It should be named The Sons of Confederate Veterans stadium…..

Joe Hussein Mama

December 12th, 2012
5:24 pm

I’m out, Doom. Have a good evening.

And try aloe vera ointment on that itching, burning behind of yours. I bet it’ll help. :D

Joel Edge

December 13th, 2012
5:54 am

“Instead, we pack stadiums and find ourselves yelling at our TV sets”
Speak for yourself. There ain’t no “we” in this case, Bookman.

Mike C.

December 14th, 2012
2:18 am

Let’s not jump the gun here. The Falcons are doing great his year, yes. Give them another year and see how they do. How stupid will Atlanta feel if we are building a brand new stadium and next year the Falcons are 3-9 by this time.

But 20 year old stadium is not hardly old either….