How John Boehner came to love the word ‘compromise’
What does it sound like when bullies discover that they’re losing a fight that they started, one that they’re likely to keep losing for the foreseeable future?
It sounds very much like this:
Unless he takes a more bipartisan approach to fiscal cliff negotiations, President Barack Obama “guarantees a permanent war” between Democrats and Republicans, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich predicted Sunday.
“He wants to prove he can dominate,” Gingrich said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” adding that on fiscal cliff negotiations, Obama aims not to compromise, but to “block [House Speaker John] Boehner into collapse.”
Why the prediction of an endless partisan fight? “Because everybody on the right, at every level, sooner or later is going to get sick of it,” Gingrich said.
Correct me if I’m wrong — some will try to correct me though I’m right — but didn’t the Republicans start this all-out, scorched-earth permanent war thing? Wasn’t this whole thing their idea in the first place?
And now they beg for compromise?
It was almost exactly two years ago to the day that Speaker John Boehner made it clear that there would be no compromise in Washington. “I am not going to compromise my principles nor will I compromise the will of the American people,” he told Judy Woodruff of “60 Minutes”.
“You’re afraid of the word?” Woodruff asked.
“I reject the word,” the new speaker said.
Whatever his other failings, Gingrich knows first-hand the realities of being speaker. He knows what it’s like to have go searching for votes. So when he predicts, as he did Sunday, that “if Boehner works out an agreement with President Obama, it has to be an agreement that brings 120 or 140 House Democrats,” that tells you an awful lot.
A House majority requires 218 votes. If Boehner needs 120 to 140 Democrats to support an eventual deal, it means that close to two-thirds of his own party will probably be voting against the deal that he agrees to support. It means that Nancy Pelosi will have a lot to say about what that final package contains. And it means that the House GOP caucus will afterward find itself split between those RINOs who voted for the deal, and those hardliners who voted against it, with Boehner among those who supported it.
“(Boehner) can be the speaker of a block of Republicans working with Democrats or he can be the speaker of the hard right fighting the Democrats,” Gingrich said. “There’s no middle ground here. He will not carry the hard right for any deal.”
Again, this is a confrontation that congressional Republicans have wanted for years. They plotted and strategized to create just this opportunity, never imagining that when the moment came, they would be the ones pleading for compromise and a bit of political mercy.
And it doesn’t get any better in the immediate future. Next on the agenda when Congress returns?
Immigration reform, with Democrats pressing for a path to citizenship and Republicans again split between those who recognize the political and moral necessity of such a step, and those who, like Boehner two years ago, still reject the word “compromise”.
– Jay Bookman
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Mick
December 10th, 2012
12:32 pm
0311
I think you need to; twisting a verse to suit your own beliefs might be considered evil…
stands for decibels
December 10th, 2012
12:32 pm
That’s pretty sick even for you…
Once you’ve chuckled at a “Pray for Obama” bumper sticker, I guess it’s all downhill.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2009/11/bumper-stickers-for-psalm-1098—-a-wrong-hearted-prayer-for-obama/1#.UMYccazhd8E
In the New International Version translations, that verse reads;
May his days be few; may another take his place of leadership.
Aha! So, they’re praying for Obama’s tenure to be a short one. Fair enough. But what does that really mean?
A clue may be in the verses of the 109th Psalm that follow verse 8:
May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.
May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes.
May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.
May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children.
May his descendants be cut off, their names blotted out from the next generation.
May the iniquity of his fathers be remembered before the Lord; may the sin of his mother never be blotted out.
May their sins always remain before the Lord, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.
In that context, are these folks actually urging us to pray for Obama’s death?
yes. THBAEOSATSQ.
Morality?
December 10th, 2012
12:32 pm
Indigo – By the way – Germany and Japan fund our existence in their countries. Do we need bases in Afghanistan? In my opinion we are funding a lost cause there – but that’s my opinion.
They BOTH suck
December 10th, 2012
12:32 pm
Scout
You missed the joke. It was a direct quote of a prediction you made about the election last month.
You were posting slogans for bumper stickers, so I gave you a suggestion: “Reagan / Carter”. You countered with you protected them. So I said that a bumper sticker could serve as two reminders for you: protection and prediction
Oscar
December 10th, 2012
12:33 pm
Doggone @ 12:00 That sound good. But the problem is there seems to be no limit on what shape or direction those tweaks can take.
Look at the shape of some of Georgia’s House districts as an example.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 10th, 2012
12:34 pm
“Hitler was “elected” but we didn’t like that one either so we did something about it.”
what is this “we” of which you speak???
the US did eff-all until it was bombed – it stood blithely by while it’s allies were getting the crap bombed out of them.
Morality?
December 10th, 2012
12:35 pm
The Bible says to pray for our leaders. so , yes I have and do pray for Obama. I also pray for God to guide him in the proper direction. I pray for Obama’s safety. I also pray for our other leaders – even the one’s I don’t care for.
Oscar
December 10th, 2012
12:36 pm
Here is a link to the map.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/GA
Joe Hussein Mama
December 10th, 2012
12:37 pm
“Morality” — “Obama recently pledged $3 billion to a group called the Muslim Brotherhood……”
Lie.
TaxPayer
December 10th, 2012
12:37 pm
Republican whine is like music to my ears. Life is good. I actually enjoy reading the Republican complaints about being forced to pay their bills.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 10th, 2012
12:39 pm
JHM – 12:37 – yep.
he’s full of ‘em today.
which is why his moniker is such a tragedy.
Morality?
December 10th, 2012
12:40 pm
Guess you can’t win……. stand by why your allies are blithely bombed or go come to their aide. Which do you suggest with Israel who is our ally but gets bombed constantly by our enemies?
TaxPayer
December 10th, 2012
12:41 pm
what is this “we” of which you speak???
What he probably meant to say was “all of us except Obama” or something like that because “we” all know that President Obama did not kill bin laden, etc.
You gotta love these Republicans and their vain attempts at navigating the river of denial. 
saywhat?
December 10th, 2012
12:42 pm
Morality?
December 10th, 2012
12:04 pm
Earned my money working 60 hours a week for 27 years. Bought gold when I saw the edge of the fiscal cliff – selling 1/2 soon and taking the rest with me to my private island…..
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….. where I will be joined by, uhhhh, ummmm, MORGAN FAIRCHILD, yeah, that’s the ticket.
indigo
December 10th, 2012
12:42 pm
Morality
No, I would not give the Muslim Brotherhood red cent.
If you don’t think our Military is a Socialist institution, then I can’t
think of anything we should reduce by 1% since there are NO Socialist institutions in America.
Z
December 10th, 2012
12:43 pm
Newt Gotrich started this fight many years ago. He’s the reason the Dem’s and the Repub’s are at war with one another. He embraced the the Religious Right to further his cause and that brought in the Extremist’s to the Republican party. Republicans have been slowly going down hill as a party since. We’ve all seen what Republican policies have done to this country and the American people. Those policies have not worked for the majority of the American people and must end.
Morality?
December 10th, 2012
12:43 pm
$3,000,000,000 to the Muslim Brotherhood……. well if you want to call it a lie you can. I mean maybe it was not exactly #3,000,000,000 ….. could have been a little less or more. Just rounding it off here to keep it simple.
indigo
December 10th, 2012
12:44 pm
Morality – “we are funding a lost cause”
100% agreement on that.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 10th, 2012
12:44 pm
Morality? “Is that the same Muslim Brotherhood that hates Israel – you know the one that Obama pledged $3,000,000,000 of our tax money to recently”
It’s one billion, not three, I believe. And that’s pretty consistent with what we’ve given Egypt in aid yearly in recent decades. Nothing new.
It buys essentially a continuation of the status quo with Israel, oh and priority access to Egyptian airspace and the Suez Canal, which is kinda sweet when you think of it.
You can bet the aid wouldn’t be flowing if there weren’t a gain.
stands for decibels
December 10th, 2012
12:44 pm
Morality, I don’t suppose you’re going to admit, now, that you heard something out of Huckabee’s fat yap that you can’t possibly back up?
Joe Hussein Mama
December 10th, 2012
12:47 pm
“Morality” — “$3,000,000,000 to the Muslim Brotherhood……. well if you want to call it a lie you can. I mean maybe it was not exactly #3,000,000,000 ….. could have been a little less or more. Just rounding it off here to keep it simple.”
Accent on “simple” wherever you’re concerned.
It’s not the amount that’s at issue. It’s your lying claim that it was given to the Muslim Brotherhood.
TaxPayer
December 10th, 2012
12:47 pm
Earned my money working 60 hours a week for 27 years. Bought gold when I saw the edge of the fiscal cliff – selling 1/2 soon and taking the rest with me to my private island…..
“It’s de next plane of disgruntled Republicans,” he exclaimed.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 10th, 2012
12:47 pm
“Guess you can’t win……. stand by why your allies are blithely bombed or go come to their aide. Which do you suggest with Israel who is our ally but gets bombed constantly by our enemies?”
and there’s Israel … minding their own business … not bombing back … or assassinating their elected leaders … (with guns and bombs bought from the US, no less)
stands for decibels
December 10th, 2012
12:48 pm
Welcome @ 12.44, you know and I know that the Camp David peace accords set those payments in motion ages ago, and that every President since Carter has been providing funds to Egypt.
I’m one of those fools who thought our “morality” might know this as well, but could provide some (laughable) information about a new commitment being made directly to the Muslim Brotherhood.
But from appearances, he doesn’t even know about the first bit. It was probably a complete shock to him that we’ve been sending billions to Egypt for many years.
Dharma Bum
December 10th, 2012
12:48 pm
Taxpayer… you are no better than the Republicans you are badmouthing… you are a part of the problem and demonstrate very neatly why America is in its current predicament. You people on both sides are more interested in name-calling, shooting your mouths off with quick one-liners, and catching the other side with their pants down than working towards a compromise to solve the massive issues plaguing this country (that both parties got us into). Enough snark and stupidity… if you cannot offer a constructive solution without resorting to childish name-calling, maybe you should move along and let the adults handle things.
Mr Right
December 10th, 2012
12:49 pm
and those who, like Boehner two years ago, still reject the word “compromise”.
Obama was never about ‘compromise”. See Obamacare!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 10th, 2012
12:49 pm
“$3,000,000,000 to the Muslim Brotherhood……. well if you want to call it a lie you can”
if he funded $3B to Egypt and/or the Muslim Brotherhood, you should have no problem providing us with a link about it.
(not holding my breath considering you flat-out LIE about everything else)
getalife
December 10th, 2012
12:49 pm
The gop should man up , apologize to our President for their behavior, then bow down and kiss our President’s feet.
He crushed the gop party.
They are trapped like rats.
RB from Gwinnett
December 10th, 2012
12:49 pm
Boehner can’t win. If he just threw his hands up and gave Obama every last thing he’s asking for, when the car goes in the ditch, the Bookman’s of the world will still blame it all on the Republicans. Just like they continue to blame Bush to this day.
I think we should just let him have everything he wants and when the wheels fall off, just say “I told you that would happen” just like when your children behave the same way Obama is behaving. Maybe then we could give him a participation trophy and a snack and send him home to mommy.
Brosephus™
December 10th, 2012
12:50 pm
saywhat?
Island living isn’t as costly as people make it out to be. For example, one could have their own private island in Michigan for the cost of a home here in the metro Atlanta area.
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/islands/fishermans-point-island
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 10th, 2012
12:50 pm
… if you cannot offer a constructive solution without resorting to childish name-calling…
Oh, the irony.
Morality?
December 10th, 2012
12:50 pm
Indigo – We have common ground – no funding to the Muslim Brother hood. As for the game – let me explain for you – I call them “socialist programs” but you may refer to them as what some call simply “social programs” I am willing to reduce the military – are you willing to reduce the social programs?
That is the only way to avoid the fiscal cliff now that we have agreed by compromise to confiscate 100% of the 1 per cents assets and give them to the gub’ment. I just cut the military 1 % – your play.
TaxPayer
December 10th, 2012
12:51 pm
Oooh! I called one of those people a “disgruntled Republican”. That really hurt poor Dharma Bum’s fee fee’s.
stands for decibels
December 10th, 2012
12:51 pm
if you cannot offer a constructive solution
I know of one. I link to it fairly regularly. It’s been out there unloved for about a year and a half now.
http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/the-peoples-budget/
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2012
12:51 pm
“Doggone @ 12:00 That sound good. But the problem is there seems to be no limit on what shape or direction those tweaks can take”
Yep, that’s why it should be put on a computer and done solely on numbers…and nothing to do with how a particular area voted in the last election.
getalife
December 10th, 2012
12:52 pm
Yeah rb, your party are role models.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 10th, 2012
12:53 pm
Brosephus — “Island living isn’t as costly as people make it out to be.”
Dude. You know I used to live in Hawaii. No talk story, eh, brah?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 10th, 2012
12:53 pm
suck:
Roger that.
UK:
Better later than never ………….
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Mick:
I merely posted that verse without comment. It’s stands by itself and does not need me (or you) to try to interpret it. It says what it says.
Take it up with God.
Got to run ……………. back tonight !
Joe Hussein Mama
December 10th, 2012
12:54 pm
Doggone — “Yep, that’s why it should be put on a computer and done solely on numbers…and nothing to do with how a particular area voted in the last election.”
Ma’am, not to be contentious, but I was under the impression that you were unalterably opposed to mixing elections and computer technology. Did I somehow minsunderstand you?
Morality?
December 10th, 2012
12:54 pm
Brosephus – thanks for the info…… but I was thinking of something a little further away from D.C.
Dharma Bum
December 10th, 2012
12:54 pm
Kam, when have I ever name-called someone personally? Even with your rather abrasive tone at times, I avoid directly attacking you because it just isn’t something polite to do over the internet. I attempt to treat everyone on here with both a sense of propriety and respect.
That being said, our elected officials are trying my patience and, as recent reports suggest, I’m not the only one that thinks so…. apparently they are viewed as being only slightly more trustworthy than car salesmen!
indigo
December 10th, 2012
12:55 pm
Morality
Socialism – “a theory or system of social organization in which the means of production and distribution of goods are owned and controlled collectively or by the government”.
If our Military does not fall under that definition, then nothing else in American Govt. does.
Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!
December 10th, 2012
12:56 pm
“have and do pray for Obama. I also pray for God to guide him in the proper direction.”
Morality, you ever think that God IS guiding President Obama in His direction, but it’s just not the direction you want?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 10th, 2012
12:57 pm
Kam, when have I ever name-called someone personally?
I suggest you reread your last post and pay special attention to the clue that I gave you.
Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!
December 10th, 2012
12:57 pm
Scout,
“Got to run ……………. back tonight !”
Thanks for the warning…
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 10th, 2012
12:58 pm
SAcout – “Better later than never ”
please.
your point was that “we did something about when Hitler was elected”
the hell we did.
we didn’t do anything then.
we didn’t do anything when he annexed Austria.
we didn’t do anything when he invaded Poland.
we didn’t do anything when he invaded France.
we didn’t do anything when he started a bombing campaign on England.
so, you can leave the false moral high ground on that one.
Fly-On-The-Wall
December 10th, 2012
12:59 pm
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Republicans should just get out of the way and give the President everything he wants. They claim that the country will fail if the President enacts his plans so I say give him a chance to fail since you seem to believe that we’re done for regardless. Get out of the way and let him fail if that’s what you believe. Then you’ll sweep in 2014 and 2016.
But I know you won’t/can’t do that. You’re more afraid that the President’s plans will work. You’re afraid of success!
TaxPayer
December 10th, 2012
12:59 pm
I suggest you reread your last post and pay special attention to the clue that I gave you.
Perhaps if Dharma were to glare into a mirror while typing, he could get a light bulb to at least flicker a little.
Erwin's cat
December 10th, 2012
1:00 pm
we didn’t do anything until the Germans bombed Pearl harbor
Dharma Bum
December 10th, 2012
1:00 pm
/facepalm… I don’t throw the term “Disgruntled Republican” around as an insult. I’m simply stating that by throwing mud at his opponents, Mr. TaxPayer is turn no better.
Brosephus™
December 10th, 2012
1:00 pm
JHM
It’s all about which island you live on. I guess I should have stated that owning a private island isn’t as expensive, or exclusive, as our poster tried to make it sound. My bad…..
Morality?
December 10th, 2012
1:00 pm
The Muslim Brotherhood is what the new governing party in Egypt calls themselves. And yes Obama has pledged to fund them. And yes they have, in the past, considered the destruction of Israel to be on their agenda. Heh – I don’t speak for Huckabee – just heard it on the radio – that’s what I said already.
getalife
December 10th, 2012
1:01 pm
Too bad the gop can’t get their act together and will lose the house in 14.
You cons will get to whine through a Dem rubber stamp congress.
Karma.
TaxPayer
December 10th, 2012
1:03 pm
Dharma Bum,
All you simply stated were insults. Live up to your own posts. Or else let the adults handle it.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 10th, 2012
1:03 pm
“The Muslim Brotherhood is what the new governing party in Egypt calls themselves. And yes Obama has pledged to fund them. ”
link.
Erwin's cat
December 10th, 2012
1:04 pm
All you simply stated were insults. Live up to your own posts. Or else let the adults handle it.
shall I call one?
TaxPayer
December 10th, 2012
1:04 pm
It’s all about which island you live on. I guess I should have stated that owning a private island isn’t as expensive, or exclusive, as our poster tried to make it sound. My bad…..
Apparently it is going to take half of his gold reserve to cover it.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 10th, 2012
1:04 pm
“Morality” — “The Muslim Brotherhood is what the new governing party in Egypt calls themselves. And yes Obama has pledged to fund them.”
Lie. Whether you’re just repeating what Huckabee said or subtly changing the meaning of it, it’s still a lie.
Obama has asserted that we will *continue* to support the legitimate government of Egypt going forward, just as we have done for DECADES.
T’aint a thing in there about supporting a partisan foreign *political party,* your frothing pronouncements notwithstanding.
Morality?
December 10th, 2012
1:05 pm
Corbin – No I do not think God is guiding Obama to do some of the things Obama has proposed.
Why ? Because some of Obama’s agenda is in direct conflict with the Word of God. God is the same yesterday, today and forever……. but politicians “evolve”.
Dharma Bum
December 10th, 2012
1:05 pm
I’d like to be proven wrong about the direction things will go politically, namely, I’d love to see people put down their pitchforks and mental brick walls they have built up and actually approach the other side with cool heads and open ears… something that both dems and reps appear unwilling to do at this point.
Well it has been fun, but I have work to do… it is a sunny and warm day in FL! Good day everyone!
JKL2
December 10th, 2012
1:05 pm
welcome- Let’s face it, capitalism just hasn’t been able to hack it
Thank you chairman obama
Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you feed him for life.
obama: who needs a fish. I got fish here. free fish fo everyone.
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2012
1:05 pm
“Obama was never about ‘compromise”. See Obamacare!”
Poor example. Pointing to “Obamacare” does NOT prove your point. In fact, it refutes it.
TaxPayer
December 10th, 2012
1:05 pm
shall I call one?
Call whatever you wish, Erwin.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
December 10th, 2012
1:06 pm
Well, it’s no fair to crittersize the Boner about something he said two years ago. That was back when us Republicans won the election.
Now it’s different. This election we got slapped around like a abused wife. I mean, sure, we never wanted to compromise back then because the people were on our side. Now the same people look on us like they would look on child molesters.
I reckon what I’m trying to say is, Have mercy, Obama! Don’t rub our nose in it.
Have a good Monday everybody. It’s raining out here and I hope all you spoilt office sissys get soaked from a roof leak right over your head.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 10th, 2012
1:06 pm
“Pointing to “Obamacare” does NOT prove your point. In fact, it refutes it.”
no kidding!
getalife
December 10th, 2012
1:06 pm
I am for con self deportation.
Love it or leave it cons.
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2012
1:07 pm
“Ma’am, not to be contentious, but I was under the impression that you were unalterably opposed to mixing elections and computer technology. Did I somehow minsunderstand you”
Must have. What does districting have to do with computers in elections?
JKL2
December 10th, 2012
1:07 pm
welcome- Easy. Because they owe so so much to the system that has enabled them to enjoy those riches and that success.
What happens when the rich only make enough money to cover 8% of your deficit? (we won’t even go into talking about debt). Wh owes then?
TaxPayer
December 10th, 2012
1:08 pm
JKL2 sure seems to be intimately familiar with free stuff.
AmericaShrugged
December 10th, 2012
1:08 pm
geta – Why not just put a bounty on them, say $5 a head. Jamvet and his ilk will have the problem solved by the end of the year!
saywhat?
December 10th, 2012
1:08 pm
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2012
1:05 pm
“Obama was never about ‘compromise”. See Obamacare!”
Poor example. Pointing to “Obamacare” does NOT prove your point. In fact, it refutes it.
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I didn’t even bother trying to poiint that out. I figure he is confused enough as he is.
Morality?
December 10th, 2012
1:08 pm
Have a LOVELY day now and remember that despite the gub’ment the sun will come up tomorrow – Selah.
getalife
December 10th, 2012
1:09 pm
Now our President is giving away fish? Is it fried or grilled jk?
saywhat?
December 10th, 2012
1:09 pm
(this time without typos)-I didn’t even bother trying to point that out. I figure he is confused enough as it is.
Mr Right
December 10th, 2012
1:10 pm
But I know you won’t/can’t do that. You’re more afraid that the President’s plans will work. You’re afraid of success!
Plans of what? Breaking the country? $20,000,000,000,000.00 debt till the end of his term! Yea, I am afraid of that! But who cares, nothing to see here, just move along!
Joe Hussein Mama
December 10th, 2012
1:10 pm
Doggone — “Must have. What does districting have to do with computers in elections?”
Well, you said this earlier on this page:
Doggone — “Yep, that’s why it should be put on a computer and done solely on numbers…and nothing to do with how a particular area voted in the last election.”
. . . and I was trying to square that with what I recall you saying about computers being used in elections previously. P’raps you could elaborate a bit so I could understand better where you’re coming from, please?
Erwin's cat
December 10th, 2012
1:10 pm
welcome- Easy. Because they owe so so much to the system that has enabled them to enjoy those riches and that success.
if it’s the system and not the individual.. then how come we all aren’t wealthy? We all have access to the same infrastructure etc that paved the way for these “takers”
getalife
December 10th, 2012
1:11 pm
shruuged,
No need for violence.
The cons and the gop are self destructing.
Stay the course.
JKL2
December 10th, 2012
1:12 pm
Brosephus- Funny that the GOP tries to take credit for the good that happened during the Clinton years, yet they try to blame others for the bad of the Obama years
Newt did nothing during the Clinton years, free pass for pelosi and obama. Got it.
getalife
December 10th, 2012
1:14 pm
morality?
No, cons lost their moral compass.
rb thinks they are role models.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 10th, 2012
1:16 pm
Erwin’s cat: “f it’s the system and not the individual.. then how come we all aren’t wealthy?”
Many factors, but one of them being gaping chasms in wealth and opportunity between wealthy and less affluent. That’s far far more important than natural ability.
“We all have access to the same infrastructure etc that paved the way for these “takers””
No we don’t.
I do not have the same access to patent protections and other benefits of government as a wealthy capitalist like Bill Gates or the Google owners or the Koch brothers, or just of corporations in general. We’re talking about gigantic imbalances here.
JKL2
December 10th, 2012
1:17 pm
cheesy grits- Asking people like Mitt Romney to pay the same, not half, the tax rate as everyone else is not punishing them
Warren “I forgot where I put my checkbook” Buffet says,”What?”.
Moveon.org, nothing to see here…
Ken
December 10th, 2012
1:18 pm
When my taxes go up I wll not buy or save like I do now. That means somebody will get laid off. Nobody wins.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 10th, 2012
1:20 pm
rb thinks they are role models.
Maybe he meant roll models.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 10th, 2012
1:20 pm
JKL2: “What happens when the rich only make enough money to cover 8% of your deficit? (we won’t even go into talking about debt). Wh owes then?”
Why should anybody cry about them when they’re the ones, with their political agents, who have run up the deficit in the first place with their wars and their bailouts of big banks to cover themselves after they blew up the system.
Tell me again, why should I hesitate to ask these people to put back in something of what they’ve parasitically skimmed off?
Erwin's cat
December 10th, 2012
1:21 pm
I do not have the same access to patent protections and other benefits…
yes, you do…I just filed a provisional patent a few weeks ago for a couple hundred bucks. Bill Gates started in his garage as did Jobs, Google is publicly traded…what’s your excuse?
getalife
December 10th, 2012
1:21 pm
ken thinks it is all about him and cons still think rw media are credible.
Love it.
Stay the course cons.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 10th, 2012
1:22 pm
JKL2: “obama: who needs a fish. I got fish here. free fish fo everyone.”
I’m still waiting for information on where to pick up my “free fish”. I haven’t heard a peep.
JKL2
December 10th, 2012
1:24 pm
-morality?
Be sure to put smiley faces after everything you say. That makes you credible here.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 10th, 2012
1:25 pm
Erwin’s cat: “Bill Gates started in his garage as did Jobs, Google is publicly traded…what’s your excuse?”
I don’t want a patent so I can hoard my own benefits and hang others out to dry in a rigged game. Instead, I’d rather agitate and build a world founded on economic justice. Plus, I don’t like garages.
“I just filed a provisional patent a few weeks ago for a couple hundred bucks”
Good luck with that.
getalife
December 10th, 2012
1:26 pm
Kam,
Oh roll models.
Lunch!
getalife
December 10th, 2012
1:27 pm
I do hope our President is handing out grilled salmon.
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2012
1:29 pm
“. . and I was trying to square that with what I recall you saying about computers being used in elections previously. P’raps you could elaborate a bit so I could understand better where you’re coming from, please?”
Using computer to set district lines has nothing to do with using computer in actual elections. How a computer sets district lines is easily checked by anyone who cares enough TO check. Using them in elections is too fraught with the possiblity of fraud that CANNOT be checked independently.
Erwin's cat
December 10th, 2012
1:31 pm
Good luck with that.
luck has nothing to do with it, I’ve got a couple dozen already awarded.
A patent won’t make you rich, or even make it a good idea, it just protects one from being robbed of an idea.
The games not rigged, you just choose not to play, but are critical of those that do
Stevie Ray
December 10th, 2012
1:32 pm
Brosephus™
December 10th, 2012
11:15 am
So BRO, you are suggesting that forcing business to hire regardless of need, despite the little conflict with shareholders, is some sort of answer.? It’s all the fault of big business hoarding cash?
Couldn’t disagree more…first, big business has no obligation to employ folks unless margin exists. So if I have small shop, you’d somehow require me to hire someone who will have nothing to do?
Business serves shareholders…and whatever you suggests they did wrong to contribute to this crap was available due only to the purchased government…congress allows this to happen..they need the money..
Again, if you are suggesting forcing business’ to create jobs, how this wouldn’t further deteriorate an already rotten situation (it’s not getting better) is something I need your help to explain..
getalife
December 10th, 2012
1:32 pm
What did you patent cat?
Georgia
December 10th, 2012
1:33 pm
You have to be so careful with patents and trademarks. The Chinese don’t respect them. The internet will devour you. It’s gotten to where I don’t want to create anything anymore. The only reason PST made money is because nobody and I mean nobody can do that dance. Ever try it? It’s impossible.
Erwin's cat
December 10th, 2012
1:33 pm
Almost certainly not…SHEETZ
Stevie Ray
December 10th, 2012
1:34 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
December 10th, 2012
1:25 pm
This concept of “economic justice”…can you tell me what that looks like?
Erwin's cat
December 10th, 2012
1:34 pm
get – which one?
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