How John Boehner came to love the word ‘compromise’

What does it sound like when bullies discover that they’re losing a fight that they started, one that they’re likely to keep losing for the foreseeable future?

It sounds very much like this:

Unless he takes a more bipartisan approach to fiscal cliff negotiations, President Barack Obama “guarantees a permanent war” between Democrats and Republicans, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich predicted Sunday.

“He wants to prove he can dominate,” Gingrich said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” adding that on fiscal cliff negotiations, Obama aims not to compromise, but to “block [House Speaker John] Boehner into collapse.”

Why the prediction of an endless partisan fight? “Because everybody on the right, at every level, sooner or later is going to get sick of it,” Gingrich said.

Correct me if I’m wrong — some will try to correct me though I’m right — but didn’t the Republicans start this all-out, scorched-earth permanent war thing? Wasn’t this whole thing their idea in the first place?

And now they beg for compromise?

It was almost exactly two years ago to the day that Speaker John Boehner made it clear that there would be no compromise in Washington. “I am not going to compromise my principles nor will I compromise the will of the American people,” he told Judy Woodruff of “60 Minutes”.

“You’re afraid of the word?” Woodruff asked.

“I reject the word,” the new speaker said.

Whatever his other failings, Gingrich knows first-hand the realities of being speaker. He knows what it’s like to have go searching for votes. So when he predicts, as he did Sunday, that “if Boehner works out an agreement with President Obama, it has to be an agreement that brings 120 or 140 House Democrats,” that tells you an awful lot.

A House majority requires 218 votes. If Boehner needs 120 to 140 Democrats to support an eventual deal, it means that close to two-thirds of his own party will probably be voting against the deal that he agrees to support. It means that Nancy Pelosi will have a lot to say about what that final package contains. And it means that the House GOP caucus will afterward find itself split between those RINOs who voted for the deal, and those hardliners who voted against it, with Boehner among those who supported it.

“(Boehner) can be the speaker of a block of Republicans working with Democrats or he can be the speaker of the hard right fighting the Democrats,” Gingrich said. “There’s no middle ground here. He will not carry the hard right for any deal.”

Again, this is a confrontation that congressional Republicans have wanted for years. They plotted and strategized to create just this opportunity, never imagining that when the moment came, they would be the ones pleading for compromise and a bit of political mercy.

And it doesn’t get any better in the immediate future. Next on the agenda when Congress returns?

Immigration reform, with Democrats pressing for a path to citizenship and Republicans again split between those who recognize the political and moral necessity of such a step, and those who, like Boehner two years ago, still reject the word “compromise”.

– Jay Bookman

526 comments Add your comment

Doggone/GA

December 10th, 2012
8:14 am

Turnabout is fair play?

Fly-On-The-Wall

December 10th, 2012
8:17 am

Oh the irony is rich with this…..

Mick

December 10th, 2012
8:18 am

Congress = frustration = stalemate

Jerome Horwitz

December 10th, 2012
8:19 am

The Newtster on MTP? Big Bird wasn’t available? This guy’s yesterday’s news. Bankrupt, but still belligerent (sp?).

Good points on compromise tho’. The Republicans have backed themselves in a corner on the Titanic.

TaxPayer

December 10th, 2012
8:22 am

Compromise! With these Republicans! Where’s that canned reply when I need it. Oh yes, here it is.

Granny Godzilla

December 10th, 2012
8:23 am

HDB

December 10th, 2012
8:23 am

Payback is a mother……

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
8:23 am

“Correct me if I’m wrong — some will try to correct me though I’m right — but didn’t the Republicans start this all-out, scorched-earth permanent war thing? Wasn’t this whole thing their idea in the first place?

And now they beg for compromise?”

yes.

that’s how they play the game.

“do it our way” IS their idea of compromise.

stands for decibels

December 10th, 2012
8:23 am

They plotted and strategized to create just this opportunity, never imagining that when the moment came, they would be the ones pleading for compromise and a bit of political mercy.

Isn’t the simplest explanation for how we got to this current state of affairs mostly an unfounded presumption that their guy (whoever that guy was going to be) was going to beat Obama?

honested

December 10th, 2012
8:25 am

I do hope the President will compromise with the ‘hostage takers’……

In February, after the automatic adjustments to tax rates and military spending have occurred, and the ‘hostages’ have automatically been released!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
8:25 am

TaxPayer – you obviously haven’t seen the extended disco version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDiBJML16gw

Newt has "very little" credibility when it comes to budgets

December 10th, 2012
8:27 am

United States federal government shutdown of 1995 and 1996

During the crisis, Gingrich made a complaint at a press breakfast that, during a flight to and from Yitzhak Rabin’s funeral in Israel, Clinton had not taken the opportunity to talk about the budget and Gingrich had been directed to leave the plane via the rear door. The perception arose that the Republican stance on the budget was partly due to this “snub” by Clinton,[9] and media coverage reflected this perception, including an editorial cartoon which depicted Gingrich as an infant throwing a temper tantrum.[10] Opposing politicians used this opportunity to attack Gingrich’s motives for the budget standoff.[11][12] Later, the polls suggested that the event damaged Gingrich politically[13] and he referred to his comments as the “single most avoidable mistake” as Speaker.[14]

Thomas Heyward Jr

December 10th, 2012
8:27 am

If you still naively vote republican, and you value liberty……….resistance is futile.
There’s no hope for ye.
Come out of the closet and join the democrats.
.
The rest of ye.
Buck up.
When a NYT prog flamer (Kristoff) admits the destructive,degenrate,and immoral influences of Government……..the battle is half won.
.
http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/07/when-parents-have-an-incentive-for-their-kids-to-fail/

Shar

December 10th, 2012
8:27 am

Well, it’s taken long enough. “The party of no” is being forced, inch by quivering inch, to admit that the American people have always been center-right on fiscal matters, center-left on social, with an emphasis on ‘center’. We the people simply will not tolerate being forced by politically-motivated obstructionism either too far left or right; we demand compromise from both sides to stay in the center. Republicans who prioritized denying Obama a second term over the good of the country must either bend or break away, as must the Democrats who want only tax increases, no spending cuts.

It may be painful for Boehner, and there are several politicians who have left themselves no where to go and thus may fade away, but it is a long-awaited relief for the people. .

Aquagirl

December 10th, 2012
8:29 am

an unfounded presumption that their guy (whoever that guy was going to be) was going to beat Obama?

They didn’t help by nominating a CEO businessman organizer who couldn’t evaluate polling or organize jack $#!^. They thought they had it in the bag until Nov. 7th.

Thomas

December 10th, 2012
8:29 am

I am for a $5/blog federal tax and increasing the tax rate on the wealthiest 3.4576%.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
8:31 am

“They didn’t help by nominating a CEO businessman organizer who couldn’t evaluate polling or organize jack $#!^. They thought they had it in the bag until Nov. 7th.”

hahahaha … no kidding … the bloviating of this blogs righties was enough to make one nauseous if you didn’t believe in, you know, fact-based polling

Where the 'Crybaby' Gingrich Meme Came From

December 10th, 2012
8:33 am

TaxPayer

December 10th, 2012
8:34 am

The Republicans lost the war that they decided to wage on we the people. The only issue left to resolve is the manner of their surrender. Will they be honorable losers or not. Some will. Others will choose to go down hard. So be it. Radical Republicans! Who needs ‘em.

stands for decibels

December 10th, 2012
8:36 am

They thought they had it in the bag until Nov. 7th.

They acted like it. Hard to say what they thought.

(Still, what kind of candidate doesn’t bother to write a concession speech? that is kind of weird, although perhaps it was just superstition.)

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
8:37 am

“Radical Republicans! Who needs ‘em.”

I believe you mean to say … “radical republicans … good god … what are they good for? absolutely nothing”

say it again.

Oscar

December 10th, 2012
8:37 am

US – In baseball some switch hitters do well. Didn’t work for Romney. Went to the right side then couldn’t get back to the left in time.

stands for decibels

December 10th, 2012
8:38 am

By the way, the whole point of this compromising, and bargaining, and angst thereof?

Atrios, per usual, summed it up most succinctly, yesterday:

I get it. I know the reason we all care about the “fiscal cliff” isn’t because of Keynesian concerns that it will destroy the economy, it’s because tax rates for rich people are going up.

And that’s all anyone cares about. Anyone with a big microphone, anyway.

Shar

December 10th, 2012
8:39 am

Richard Mourdock beat the savvy and experienced Richard Lugar in his reelection primary by saying things like “I certainly think bipartisanship ought to consist of Democrats coming to the Republican point of view.” The far right voters of the primary liked that style of aggressive intolerance, but even in a conservative constituency the voters in the general election rejected it and elected a center-right Democrat. Americans want both sides reflected in government, and those who demand capitulation to one view are ultimately politically doomed.

Bottom line, I’m feeling Jeffersonian – I place far more faith in the great mass of the electorate than I do in the individuals they elect. It may take a while, but eventually the people will enforce their collective will on those who seek to rule rather than represent.

stands for decibels

December 10th, 2012
8:39 am

So you know, when people talk about “getting the deficit under control” and whatnot, what they really mean is “ZOMG RICH PEOPLE PAYING HIGHER TAXES IS WRONG.”

DownInAlbany

December 10th, 2012
8:40 am

BOTH sides are playing games.

sam

December 10th, 2012
8:40 am

i love hearing Newt speak with such contempt about a politician trying to dominate and force the other side to give in….he’s too self-centered to see the irony.

Oscar

December 10th, 2012
8:40 am

To get elected, you have to be in line with what the majority of voters will support and vote for
Staying on the permiters of majority opinion won’t get enough votes.

Jeffrey

December 10th, 2012
8:41 am

They played chicken with health care, debt ceiling and deficit. Now comes the cliff. They’ll jump out of the car first as they are the rebels without a cause.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
8:41 am

“In baseball some switch hitters do well. Didn’t work for Romney.”

I think it works if you’re a centrist all along – but when you waffle from the left to the right, never really occupying the center at all, then you just appear spineless, not a centrist.

indigo

December 10th, 2012
8:42 am

Grown-up bullies wreak havoc, in their relationships and in the work place. And, if they’re Boehner and his cronies, they feel no remorse or shame in wreaking havoc on the middle-class.

Now, they’ve met someone, Obama, who won’t be bullied. And, like the cowards they are, they will hem and haw and evenutually cave in.

What’s somewhat unclear is how these craven, cowardly bullies ever got control of the Party. At the same time, it’s perfectly clear that childish and immature Christian fundamentalists totally approve their bullying tatics.

Not only do we need a better grade of politicians. We need a better grade of voters.

Granny Godzilla

December 10th, 2012
8:42 am

DownInAlbany

December 10th, 2012
8:40 am

BOTH sides are playing games.
.
.
.
Correct

Right is playing tiddly winks

Left is playing chess.

Oscar

December 10th, 2012
8:42 am

Sam – Often, what people say about others tells you more about the speaker than the others he is talking about.

TaxPayer

December 10th, 2012
8:42 am

USinUK,

Say it Agin! :smile:

JKL2

December 10th, 2012
8:42 am

Look Jay, it has a chart:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=82268672

The party of handouts is winning again…

Gale

December 10th, 2012
8:43 am

center right fiscal, center left social. Yep, that’s me.

Cherokee

December 10th, 2012
8:43 am

“but didn’t the Republicans start this all-out, scorched-earth permanent war thing?”

Not just generic Republicans, Jay, but specifically, it was the Newtster himself who led the way.

But Republicans generally don’t get irony….

indigo

December 10th, 2012
8:45 am

USinUK – 8:25

I’ve seen more mature behavior than that in a kindergarten class.

Pitiful, just pitiful.

saywhat?

December 10th, 2012
8:45 am

DownInAlbany

December 10th, 2012
8:40 am
BOTH sides are playing games.
____________________________________
Possibly. But only one side is winning.

Oscar

December 10th, 2012
8:46 am

Gale I think that’s where you will find the majority of oters. You should have run.

indigo

December 10th, 2012
8:47 am

JKL2 – 8:42

Another brilliant post from our resident “let them eat cake” expert.

JKL2

December 10th, 2012
8:47 am

Shame on Congressman Boehner for trying to avoid the fiscal cliff.

Forward! lemmings…

F. Sinkwich

December 10th, 2012
8:47 am

When the argument is fiscal discipline vs. free stuff, free stuff wins every time.

Fly-On-The-Wall

December 10th, 2012
8:49 am

Indigo,

I like to call those “childish and immature Christian fundamentalists” on the right the true RINOs – Religious In Name Only

DannyX

December 10th, 2012
8:49 am

“The party of handouts is winning again…”

The problem is they think they still have a winning hand. They double down with their failed “Job Creators vs Moocher” Wrestlemania rhetoric.

BENGHAZI!!!

Jay

December 10th, 2012
8:49 am

Indigo, now that you’re here, I want to note again that you have gone a little over the line recently in name-calling and lack of respect for other bloggers. Please cease.

JKL2

December 10th, 2012
8:50 am

indigo- Another brilliant post from our resident “let them eat cake” expert.

Sorry for your inability to accept facts.

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

December 10th, 2012
8:51 am

Usink: if you didn’t believe in, you know, fact-based polling

The Conned only believe in what Fox tells them to believe in. Everything else is just lies perpetrated by the evil liberal media.

stands: Still, what kind of candidate doesn’t bother to write a concession speech?

The kind that grew up with everything given to him and he’s never been said NO to by anyone before. I’m thinking that Mitt may have to go through years or psychoanalysis in order to get over 2M+ people telling not only no, but HELL NO!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
8:52 am

indigo – “I’ve seen more mature behavior than that in a kindergarten class.”

…. on a sugar high – with no nap.

Jay

December 10th, 2012
8:52 am

“When the argument is fiscal discipline vs. free stuff, free stuff wins every time.”

…. which explains the GOP’s “tax cuts now, tax cuts forever” philosophy of the past 30 years.

Granny Godzilla

December 10th, 2012
8:53 am

The party of handouts JKL@….

Be more specific will you.

The hand out to the least of us party

OR

The hand out to corporations and the wealthy party?

I hope even YOU can figure out the difference.

Then again….

Butch

December 10th, 2012
8:53 am

Compromising principles is completely different than compromising during negotiations to reach a solution……but I guess you would need to have principles to understand this….

As long as you continue to pull things out of context or leave out key parts of the discussion, you will continue to be a partisan hack.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
8:54 am

jkl – “The party of handouts is winning again…”

that’s laughable – the guy “blends” his data (always a red flag), then doesn’t tell us how he gets to that amount.

lau

gh

able.

stands for decibels

December 10th, 2012
8:54 am

When the argument is fiscal discipline vs. free stuff, free stuff wins every time.

When hypocrites continue to cling to a phony talking point like “free stuff”, they lose every time.

By all means, go tell it on the mountain.

DannyX

December 10th, 2012
8:54 am

“Sorry for your inability to accept facts.”

Good attempt at irony JKL2!

Fly-On-The-Wall

December 10th, 2012
8:54 am

I don’t believe in the ‘free stuff’ or ‘hand outs’ line from the right. Both sides do this. This is normal in American politics and the only thing upsetting those on the right is that their ‘moochers’ aren’t getting the free stuff. Get over it.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
8:55 am

“…. which explains the GOP’s “tax cuts now, tax cuts forever” philosophy of the past 30 years.”

and Bookman for the win.

Gale

December 10th, 2012
8:55 am

I think Shar was spot on with the “center” assessment. I find the ONLY reason politicians tilt right or left is for money. The fringes are ready to open their checkbook to anyone who agrees to champion their causes. The majority is actually in the middle and turned off by anyone who tilts too far to right or left.

JKL2

December 10th, 2012
8:56 am

dannyx- The problem is they think they still have a winning hand. They double down with their failed “Job Creators vs Moocher” Wrestlemania rhetoric.

The problem is Boehner is powerless to do anything. The Senate won’t agree and the president won’t sign anything he puts out, but he is still going to take the blame for us going over the cliff.

Forward! lemmings

saywhat?

December 10th, 2012
8:57 am

JKL2-”The party of handouts is winning again”
————————————————-
Your graph is lovely. To some, like you, it shows that benefits need to go down. To others , like me, it shows that the median income needs to go up.

F. Sinkwich

December 10th, 2012
8:57 am

“…. which explains the GOP’s “tax cuts now, tax cuts forever” philosophy of the past 30 years.”

Well, it does explain the Dem’s “more spending now, more spending forever” philosophy over the last 80 years.

Citizen of the World

December 10th, 2012
8:57 am

You live by the sword, you die by the sword.

indigo

December 10th, 2012
8:57 am

Jay – 8:49

Very well.

However, if I challenge someones’ beliefs and, instead of getting a reasoned response, I get insulted and called names, tit for tat will result.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
8:59 am

“Your graph is lovely. To some, like you, it shows that benefits need to go down. To others , like me, it shows that the median income needs to go up.”

to me, it says the data is crap.

Jay

December 10th, 2012
8:59 am

And if you cross the line, Indigo, banishment will result. That’s how things work.

james

December 10th, 2012
9:00 am

I hope they don’t reach a deal and the government is forced
to make cuts…. only way to quit all this spending! Raise taxes
on everyone including the poor with Obamacare….

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
9:00 am

” “more spending now, more spending forever” philosophy ”

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight … because the GOP is a MODEL of fiscal conservatism

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 10th, 2012
9:00 am

Again, this is a confrontation that congressional Republicans have wanted for years. They plotted and strategized to create just this opportunity, never imagining that when the moment came, they would be the ones pleading for compromise and a bit of political mercy

And yet some will still fail to realize that they are fighting a losing battle like Japanese soliders in caves on an island after the war.

Welcome to the Occupation

December 10th, 2012
9:01 am

So, Jay, this is all well and good, we can all — those of us actually looking at the situation honestly — see that the Republicans are being the brutes that they always are.

But what about the Democrats?

How about a post helping us to understand the back and forth and mixed messages being sent out by leading Democrats like Sen. Durbin over cuts to Medicare, etc.? That would also be something worth exploring, don’t you think?

There have been some noises coming out of the caucus about what cuts might be on the table – eligibility age, means testing, etc. – and it would be interesting to know what the Democrats are up to. Are these trial balloons, just negotiating gambits, or is there something more to it? Are the Democrats willing to go along with the Republicans in making cuts to our already bare-bones social safety net at a time of the greatest economic hardship on the bulk of the citizenry in 80 yrs?

TaxPayer

December 10th, 2012
9:01 am

JKL2 apparently has not seen the election results.

Obama Won,
GOP, Zero.

F. Sinkwich

December 10th, 2012
9:02 am

“When hypocrites continue to cling to a phony talking point like “free stuff”, they lose every time.”

It’s not phony. Who doesn’t like free stuff?

You can put your hands over you ears while singing “la la la” all you want but the truth remains.

JKL2

December 10th, 2012
9:02 am

usinuk- that’s laughable – the guy “blends” his data (always a red flag), then doesn’t tell us how he gets to that amount.

Source: Senate Budget Committee Ranking Member Jeff Sessions’ Republican staff calculations of data from CRS, the Census Bureau, and the Oxford Handbook of State and Local Government Finance.

Reading is fundamental. You might try it some time. Feel free to google away.

Oscar

December 10th, 2012
9:02 am

Fly-On-The-Wall

You are correct. All congressman want to get as much as they can for their voters. What type of stuff they want varies according to where they are from.
Road to nowhere. Bridge to nowhere.
Dredge the Savannah River with federal dollars.

barking frog

December 10th, 2012
9:03 am

The Republicans will do as the President desires or they will rue the day they didn’t.

Jay

December 10th, 2012
9:03 am

Welcome, I think various Democrats would accept various things, and it’s all posturing until we actually see a proposal on the table. Believe it or not, I think the folks with the strongest hand to play in this process may actually be Pelosi and House Democrats. Their votes are going to be crucial.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 10th, 2012
9:04 am

“How John Boehner came to love the word ‘compromise’ … ”

Jay:

Here’s your next thread.

How Barack Obama came to love the word “transparency”.

Aquagirl

December 10th, 2012
9:06 am

if I challenge someones’ beliefs and, instead of getting a reasoned response, I get insulted and called names, tit for tat will result.

The anti-Kenyan Bitterball won’t be canceled anytime soon so we’d best get used to the name-calling. It’s all some folks have.

Jay

December 10th, 2012
9:06 am

” “more spending now, more spending forever” philosophy ”

More free wars. More free F-35s. More free Medicare Part D….

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
9:06 am

“Source: Senate Budget Committee Ranking Member Jeff Sessions’ Republican staff calculations of data from CRS, the Census Bureau, and the Oxford Handbook of State and Local Government Finance.

Reading is fundamental. You might try it some time. Feel free to google away.”

which is why I said BLENDS his data. You might want to take your own advice.

Oscar

December 10th, 2012
9:06 am

I think Boehner would support something the Senate and President would approve. His problem is rounding up the votes to get it passed.
His job would drive almost anyone to drink.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

December 10th, 2012
9:07 am

P.S.

Democrats won the presidency and the Senate.
Republicans won the House.

That’s the way it works.

TaxPayer

December 10th, 2012
9:07 am

Speaking of welfare and unemployment and food stamps and such and the need to reduce them, how’s that Republican 2010 jobs campaign coming along. Any progress yet.

DannyX

December 10th, 2012
9:07 am

“Republican staff calculations”

Otherwise known as the Unskewed Republican Data Center.

barking frog

December 10th, 2012
9:08 am

The folks that think Medicare is free are in for a rude awakening at age 65.

real john

December 10th, 2012
9:09 am

Jay,

Since when have the Dems been compromising on anything???

If you remember, the Repubs “compromised” on giving Obama the debt ceiling increase. Of course Obama praised his debt commission. Of course, the debt commission gives recommendations that Obama does nothign with. Now that its time for rubber to meet the road, Obama and the libs create this “debt fiscal cliff” crisis.

Basically the Repubs compromised and gave the Dems their SPENDING INCREASE, but refuse to actually make any hard cuts. As usual, the Dems have no plan, but to tax the rich.

Seems to me the Repubs are the only ones compromising

Welcome to the Occupation

December 10th, 2012
9:09 am

Jay: “Believe it or not, I think the folks with the strongest hand to play in this process may actually be Pelosi and House Democrats”

I hope you’re right.

Doggone/GA

December 10th, 2012
9:10 am

“However, if I challenge someones’ beliefs and, instead of getting a reasoned response, I get insulted and called names, tit for tat will result”

In case you’ve forgotten, the Golden Rules is “Do as you would be done by” not “Do as has been done to you”

St Simons - aboriginal BOOTAKOOK 2014

December 10th, 2012
9:10 am

bu,,,bu…the Republicans are surging! Maybe today’s the day.

Never, ever compromise with a bully.

barking frog

December 10th, 2012
9:11 am

It should not be considered compromise if both parties are doing
what is best for the people.

JKL2

December 10th, 2012
9:11 am

saywhat?- Your graph is lovely. To some, like you, it shows that benefits need to go down. To others , like me, it shows that the median income needs to go up.

To fit into your george soros “new world order” the median household income is going to have to drop to $14.4k. You’re voting in the wrong direction if want to see that happen.

Nothing but rainbows and unicorns here in obamaland.

Joe Hussein Mama

December 10th, 2012
9:12 am

F. Sinkiewicz — “You can put your hands over you ears while singing “la la la” all you want but the truth remains.”

Truth is, your talking point’s got no basis in reality. Sure, it *sounds* good, but it’s total bulldada.

Go ahead and tell me what “free stuff” I’m getting for having voted Democratic, Fishy. Please, by all means, fill me in.

Recon 0311 2533

December 10th, 2012
9:14 am

Obama’s stand on raising taxes on those earning over 250k is shameless politics designed only to appease the left. It accomplishes essentially nothing in addressing our debt crises. Obama has shown his leadership incompetence once again by his failure to put the nations economic security ahead of politics.

Oscar

December 10th, 2012
9:14 am

Real John – Raising the debt ceiling is not a compromise. It’s facing reality.
The way to reduce the debt is change the laws that create debt, not refuse to pay the bills already incurred.

Granny Godzilla

December 10th, 2012
9:15 am

Real John

Please review your information on Erskine Bowles…..you are badly factually inaccurate…..

Aquagirl

December 10th, 2012
9:15 am

tell me what “free stuff” I’m getting for having voted Democratic

The after-election posts were richly entertaining and 100% free.

done

December 10th, 2012
9:15 am

We suck and deserve the decline we are headed for. Good luck, you will get no help from me if you need it,I’m done helping others.

DannyX

December 10th, 2012
9:16 am

“Obama’s stand on raising taxes on those earning over 250k is shameless politics designed only to appease the left.”

See how bad things are for Republicans, the left now accounts for over 60% of the American public.

Brosephus™

December 10th, 2012
9:17 am

The problem is Boehner is powerless to do anything. The Senate won’t agree and the president won’t sign anything he puts out, but he is still going to take the blame for us going over the cliff.

I thought the GOP wanted massive spending cuts. That’s why they voted on that deal to get those spending cuts. I say let’em have those spending cuts. They wanted them. They own them.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 10th, 2012
9:17 am

“Obama’s stand on raising taxes on those earning over 250k is shameless politics designed only to appease the left. It accomplishes essentially nothing in addressing our debt crises.”

only in bizarro-world does not increasing revenues = “accomplishes nothing”

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

December 10th, 2012
9:18 am

I’m not sure what JKL is trying to say. I see 168.00 a day as 7.00 per hour for 24 hours and 21.00 an hour for eight hours. A working wage for most. maybe if the GOP would work on a good jobs bill, then those on welfare would be off the “dole”…