Why the Republicans may regret holding the House
The worst thing to happen to Republicans in the 2012 election cycle will not turn out to be Mitt Romney’s defeat. Nor will it be their party’s squandering of a great opportunity to take the Senate.
No, the worst thing to happen to the Republican Party in 2012 was holding onto the House. That victory will be their undoing. It will cause major damage to the Republican brand and to Republican party unity. In fact, that victory — not the setbacks mentioned above — may end up being the catalyst that finally forces a rethinking of the GOP strategy and approach.
I understand that sounds odd, but it’s true. Without control of the House, Republicans would not be suffering through their current existential crisis. Without GOP control, it would be the responsibility of majority Democrats under Speaker Nancy Pelosi to provide the politically risky votes for tax hikes and spending cuts that are needed to correct our fiscal course.
The Republicans, in contrast, would be free to sit back, united, and do what they do well, which is preach the ideologically pure message that taxes must never be raised and entitlements are the whole problem. Come 2014, they could rally behind that message and make the Democrats pay at the ballot box.
History says that’s a great strategy. It’s exactly what Republicans did two decades ago, when Bill Clinton tackled a booming deficit by forcing through major tax hikes without a single Republican vote. While that proved successful as policy, the backlash led directly to the 1994 Gingrich Revolution and the first GOP House majority in 40 years.
This time, though, the Democrats don’t control the House. The Republicans do. They have the power and the votes, and thus they have the responsibility. And as the party in power in the House, the Republican leadership is somehow going to have to produce a significant number of votes in favor of higher taxes. They can scratch and claw and hem and haw and mumble about a coup d’etat against Boehner, but that’s how this chapter is destined to end.
And then what?
Those Republicans who took the practical and I would argue patriotic course of doing what was necessary will then engage in some rather heated “discussion”, we’ll call it, with those members who stayed the one true course, at least in their own minds. Again, you can already see that dynamic taking shape.
House Speaker John Boehner, for example, has thrown four of his fellow Republicans off of committees as a warning to others who might feel rebellious. Sen. Jim DeMint has lambasted what he calls “Speaker Boehner’s $800 billion tax hike.” Erick Erickson at RedState says the time has come for conservatives to “either start blowing stuff up or shut up.” Rush Limbaugh says the speaker is “conducting a seminar on how to surrender.”
And that rancor will only get worse. To millions in the GOP base, this is a betrayal of all that they’ve been taught to believe, committed by traitors to whom they looked as leaders.
I’ve seen suggestions on the left that this is all some sort of stage-managed, theatrical gamesmanship by conservatives to vent steam and prepare the base for the inevitable. It is not. A ban on tax hikes has been the core uniting issue for the Republicans for more than a generation, and it is being abandoned. It’s as if some strange and inconceivable combination of events had occurred that gave Democrats no choice but to produce votes in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade.
This is bone-deep stuff for the Republicans. This is who they are. This is 30-plus years of indoctrination running head on into brute fiscal reality, and the collision is going to create casualties.
Over the weekend, Grover Norquist predicted that this could lead to a newly reinvigorated Tea Party, and “Tea Party II is going to dwarf Tea Party I.” He may be right, in terms of Tea Party intensity if not size. It may also, simultaneously, lead to a resurgence among moderate Republicans unhappy with the extremism that the modern GOP has adopted and has talked itself into believing is the mainstream. Such splintering could produce any number of outcomes, and in the end I have no idea how you patch all that back together into a cohesive party.
But this is what happens when an inflexible, idealistic mantra perfectly suited for a party in opposition is actually implemented by a party that has power.
– Jay Bookman
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Doggone/GA
December 5th, 2012
9:12 pm
“Just how bad does the unemployment need to be, and just how high does the deficit need to be before you blame your messiah?”
Please explain what Jesus had to do with ANY of that?
Josef
December 5th, 2012
9:16 pm
Scout
I’m on iPad now and will have to get back on that…I can’t keyboard here with enough speed to do much more than drive by..get back with me on that, please. I have some thoughts…
DEL
I would tend to agree with that..i’m not sure, though, that he may not be that out of touch..
Getalife..
That seems to be the most logical..if that word still has any currency
Thulsa
Well, you know what The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” says…
Sooth
Whatever…
Recon 0311 2533
December 5th, 2012
9:18 pm
Doomy,
I think you may be on to something…If you’ve looked at some recent videos of Jay, you can see a look of something sinister. The others you mentioned do indeed raise suspicion.
pete
December 5th, 2012
9:18 pm
JamVet’s silence speaks volumes.
I’m shocked!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
9:19 pm
Doggone, we’re doomed to the nightly Ftroop stupidity and drinking hour. You can’t expect them to make sense or show intelligence. At least RB ran away with his tail between his leg when humiliated before.
JamVet
December 5th, 2012
9:21 pm
pete, are you an atheist?
Washington (CNN) — Taxes on the wealthy are going up, House Speaker John Boehner conceded Wednesday in challenging President Barack Obama to sit down with him to hammer out a deal for avoiding the fiscal cliff.
Obama, however, continued to insist on Republicans first ensuring no tax hike for anyone but the top 2% of Americans as a first step toward a broader agreement on tackling the nation’s chronic federal deficits and debt.
The first cracks in the trickle down dam are starting to appear. (Not that thirty years of economic failures for the vast percentage of working Americans is anything to be concerned about.)
Here is to hoping that economic justice is no longer a pipe dream…
Soothsayer
December 5th, 2012
9:21 pm
What if everything that you hear on the TEEVEE is nothing but propaganda devised to shape your opinion about the imperial designs of Israel using the United States as its dupe to accomplish its goals of regional dominance in the Middle East?
Yes, whatever, indeed . . .
Doggone/GA
December 5th, 2012
9:21 pm
“You can’t expect them to make sense or show intelligence”
I don’t…but the non-answers are almost as amusing as the attempts at an answer, if there ever is one.
getalife
December 5th, 2012
9:22 pm
saddam had a trial and confessed:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=1102311#.UMAAI6zhcm4
Recon 0311 2533
December 5th, 2012
9:22 pm
Oh well jokes aside…have a pleasant evening y’all.
Lynnie Gal
December 5th, 2012
9:23 pm
I agree with Jay. The Republicans will certainly be held responsible for what happens to the economy now because they held the House and are as intransigent as ever when it comes to holding the economy hostage with the fiscal cliff fiasco and for act two they will hold poor and middle class people hostage over raising the debt ceiling. They will be held responsible for this self-inflicted crisis–because they are. It’s about time.
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
9:23 pm
Nunna Yobinnes
December 5th, 2012
7:14 pm
“Judd is reportedly considering a run for U.S. Senate in either 2014 or 2016. If she ran in 2014, she would be challenging the top Republican in the upper chamber: Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). If she waited until 2016, though, she would be up against Paul.”
Dang it, did I sleep through someone changing the constitution? Don’t senators still have 6 year terms? Wouldn’t she run in 2014 or 2020?
+++++++++++++++++
Nothing has changed. You just have no clue as to our government, constitution, or theb way things work. Nothing has changed in the Constitution or in your lack of knowledge except your blatant declaration of ignorance here…….. which you will recant or deny later.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
9:23 pm
Recon,
Yeah. I kinda figured Jay for a Mossad super secret agent. Blogging is his cover.
Soothsayer
December 5th, 2012
9:24 pm
Why do they have the word confessed in quotation marks?
nobodyyouknow
December 5th, 2012
9:25 pm
Watch FOX and its “Obama is pushing us over the financial cliff.” You watch MSNBC and its ” Bohner and his Republicans are causing the President to push the country over the cliff”. Why in the world can’t these hardheads get to gether and settle this thing. After watching both parties and the leaders I’ve come to the conclusion that Mr. Obama is arrogant, hard headed, self rightous. and “my way or no way”. as is Mt Bohner and most Republicans. And my friends we are going to be the ones that pay the price.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
9:25 pm
Lenin gal rants. And much to no one’s surprise she agrees with Jay. Will wonders never cease?
getalife
December 5th, 2012
9:26 pm
Our President told the crybaby speaker that he invented this “crisis” and he will end this “crises.”
Then he told him to add the debt limit because he is not playing his game.
Bold leadership.
RF
December 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
“The first cracks in the trickle down dam are starting to appear.”
Yep, and the boys in DC are having to use “the finger” they’ve given to Obama for four years to try to plug the leaks…and it’s not working.
OedipusTax
December 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
Only a mediocrity like Jay Bookman could come up with such a preposterous headline. When will the AJC fire this incompetent? Reflects badly on Atlanta. What political party doesn’t want power? Who in their right mind would ever want Pelosi to be seen anyplace else but a hair salon?
Josef
December 5th, 2012
9:27 pm
Thulsa
Don’t forget JamVet…oh, yes, and Jesus…
ODD OWL
December 5th, 2012
9:28 pm
The Republican brand has become old, stale, outdated and antiquated… Its past time they got themselves a new schtick… President Eisenhower had the best quote concerning rasing taxes… “If the congress must raise taxes, they should raise them on the people who have money, the rich people.” Marco Rubio = Cabana Boy…
Doggone/GA
December 5th, 2012
9:28 pm
“Bold leadership.”
Wellll…bold words anyway. We won’t know if it’s leadership until it comes time to act.
Soothsayer
December 5th, 2012
9:28 pm
Let’s review, shall we?
Egypt Arab Spring (Western-supported) democracy freedom fighters — chaos.
Libya Arab Spring (Western-supported) democracy freedom fighters — chaos, murder, mayhem.
Syria Arab Spring (Western-supported) democracy freedom fighters — chaos, murder, mayhem.
It sure seems like the endgame is pretty well defined, huh?
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
9:30 pm
“Yep, and the boys in DC are having to use “the finger” they’ve given to Obama for four years to try to plug the leaks…and it’s not working.”
Repubs didn’t have much of a finger to give the first 2 years considering the Ds owned both the house and the senate. Or did you forget that?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
Wisdom from the bar:
“”We Americans got so tired of being thought of as dumba**es by the rest of the world that we went to the polls this past November and removed all doubt.”
appleseed
December 5th, 2012
9:32 pm
Should all of the blame/credit for the failure of this country,in the last 12 years be laid to Bush-Whacking?Malaria mosquito borne diseases.Bush-Whacking intentional.Had not been for the states north of the MD line the South would have starved long ago.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
9:33 pm
JamVet was in on it to??? Now I know we have something solid going on here. Jesus must have descended to organize the other 4 what I reckon. The chemical 5. And we know Jam was ex AF. Maybe he flew the CIA super secret B-1 bomber that delivered the payload of sarin gas.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 5th, 2012
9:33 pm
josef:
Roger that.
They BOTH suck
December 5th, 2012
9:34 pm
Scout
Old joke from 00 and 04, but give you a B for effort.
Dirty Harry Reid
December 5th, 2012
9:34 pm
That’s right…Our Comrade can better run the country because of the mindless drones who look up at us as rock stars!
RF
December 5th, 2012
9:36 pm
“I’ve come to the conclusion that Mr. Obama is arrogant, hard headed, self rightous. and “my way or no way”. as is Mt Bohner and most Republicans”
But after four years of trying to “negotiate” and being given nothing but NO as an answer, no matter what he offered, it is perhaps time for Obama to play the same game Boehner and the boys have been playing. He has to call their bluff now, or the second term ends up as dead-ended as the first. They both know what the polls are showing, and Boehner has to try to play tough for another couple of weeks. I like the fact that the language is strong and the stance firm. Once they understand they have to give in on tax rates, I suspect they’ll find a much more willing audience for discussing spending cuts. But it’s time to force them to bend, at least a little, so that real negotiations on long term changes that could help reduce the debt and deficit can happen. Nothing will until then, and they can whine about how intractable he’s being for now. That’s how the republicans have played it for four years, so it’s time to stand up and play their game.
JamVet
December 5th, 2012
9:37 pm
Doomy, nope.
I was in the Battle of Britain.
I went there single and came home single!
Our Comrade can better run the country…
Comrade?
betty, you wanna take this one?
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
9:37 pm
Scout,
Its kinda funny but worldwide an election ago the West European nations in polls heavily favored Obama being elected in the U.S. And in Asia the populations favored McCain. Imagine that- the deteriorating, debt ridden welfare states of Europe supporting Obama and the fast growth, market oriented Asian economies supporting McCain. Makes sense.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
9:38 pm
JamVet,
The battle of Britain? I knew you were an old fart. Just not a really old, really stale one.
getalife
December 5th, 2012
9:42 pm
Our President acted by telling the crybaby to clean up his mess.
RF
December 5th, 2012
9:42 pm
“Or did you forget that?”
Nope, but that’s all they did, and bragged about it. They just had more fingers to throw up there after 2010. That was a successful strategy to rally voters for the mid-terms, but it wasn’t exactly a governing strategy and we see how it worked out for them a few weeks ago. The base loves it when you “buck up” to the opposition for a while, but they get tired of that being all you do. Sooner or later you have to get past that, and they never did.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
9:43 pm
Sooth do have a point @ 9:28 about the chaos in the Middle east he do.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
RF, it would be shorter and easier if you just said “Its all the Repubs fault”.
They BOTH suck
December 5th, 2012
9:45 pm
Thulsa
Which study or poll are you referring to? Gallup begs to differ
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111253/world-citizens-prefer-obama-mccain-more-than-3to1.aspx#1
They BOTH suck
December 5th, 2012
9:46 pm
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111223/Developed-Asia-Clear-Preference-Obama.aspx
RF
December 5th, 2012
9:47 pm
“it would be shorter and easier if you just said “Its all the Repubs fault”.”
Okay.
It’s all the Repubs fault.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 5th, 2012
9:48 pm
Headline: “Liberal feminist group insists Obama cabinet be half female… ”
Hummmm ………….. is half the feminist group male ?
They BOTH suck
December 5th, 2012
9:48 pm
Thulsa
In my quest to be fair and balanced, I must mention that The Filipinos slightly favored McCain
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111187/Filipinos-Slightly-Favor-McCain-Majority-Preference.aspx
They BOTH suck
December 5th, 2012
9:50 pm
But on the other hand, Gallup did have a few on this blog and many elsewhere thinking Romney was going to win last month, so it must be pointed out that they have been wrong before
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
9:51 pm
they both suck,
It was a few years back so I don’t remember the specifics. I just thought it was funny at the time that Asians seemed more amenable to McCain and Europeans much more in support of Obama. I think there is also the perception of people in the rest of the world that an Obama presidency would translate to a weakening of U.S. power. And lets face it. There’s a whole lotta anti-Americanism in the world. Of course they are going to favor a president who in their eyes will sorta lower the U.S. Kinda knock us down a peg or two. And O has most certainly done that.
Liberal Pariah
December 5th, 2012
9:53 pm
Earlier today, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell took to the floor and offered an immediate vote on President Obama’s fiscal cliff plan. Harry Reid quickly objected and shut the whole thing down, labeling the suggestion a “stunt.” Think about that. The President of the United States, a Democrat, crafted a fiscal cliff package that would give him everything he wants. It has tax hikes on the rich. It has huge tax hikes on investments and estates. It has more stimulus spending. It has no meaningful, specific, or guaranteed spending cuts. And it compels Congress to cede control of the debt ceiling to him. This is “fairness” on steroids. The Senate’s top Republican proposed an up-or-down vote on everything the president wants, yet Democrats, who control the upper chamber, instantly blocked it.
The Republicans aren’t wrong, they just aren’t as good at PR as the Democrats. I say if Obama is willing to go off the fiscal cliff to tax the rich, which won’t generate enough revenue to make a difference, I say let him.
They BOTH suck
December 5th, 2012
9:54 pm
Well if you come across it again, post it.
Thanks
Would be great to match it up against Gallup” info that, “lets face it”, slightly differs from what you posted.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 5th, 2012
9:54 pm
Thulsa @ 9:37
I heard this a few days back and posted it. You may have missed it:
“The most reliable conservative ethnic groups and voting blocks in America have always been the Chinese (those who escaped Mao and Communism) and the Cubans (those who escaped Castro and Communism).
However, this past election their children and grandchildren (educated in our government schools) overwhelmingly voted for Barck Hussein Obama.
Dark days ahead ………………….. “
getalife
December 5th, 2012
9:55 pm
Our President told the bankers to clean up their mess and they did.
He told the military to clean up their failed occupations and they did.
Now, he told the gop to clean up this mess and they will.
That is his leadership style.
Clean up your mess like you tell the children to clean up their room.
The adults are in charge.
They BOTH suck
December 5th, 2012
9:55 pm
Thulsa
Those articles I posted are from 08 before the election.
Everyone have a great night and an even better tomorrow.
Peace
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
December 5th, 2012
9:56 pm
The Republican Party will probably cease to exist (as a viable political entity able to create and implement policy) in the near future, at least at the national level. Conservatives are now 100% certain Party leadership has no stomach for the fight. The Tea Party will, in all likelihood, if it can not control the Republican Party, break away and endeavor to go it alone. Can they do all this in time to save the country? Unlikely.
This last election, while obviously disappointing, provided a massive amount of clarity.
Liberal Pariah
December 5th, 2012
9:57 pm
Your President is an Ivy League thug who has mistaken a narrow victory for a mandate and is trying to shove his class warfare policy down our throats…kinda like how he got Obamacare through. His hate is showing, much like most of Jay’s group here.
They BOTH suck
December 5th, 2012
9:57 pm
Scout
You might want to verify that Chinese information. It is correct with the Cubans in terms of their voting patterns, but you might find some discrepancies in terms of Chinese American voting patterns over the last 30 or 40 yrs.
RB from Gwinnett
December 5th, 2012
9:58 pm
Keep, seriously? You give me copy and paste from other bloggers for evidence? Wow.
So, if its an 11 to 14 cent increase on a $.90 to $1.20 pizza, I assume you’re good with a 13 to 20% price increase. Tell me though, will there be a pizza subsidy for the “less fortunate” to pay that increase or will they just get hammered at the food trough by EVERY food supplier in the chain? BTW, that estimate only includes the cost increase to the pizza producer and not all their supplier increases they’ll have to pass along.
“Now be a good chicken little wingnuts and back up your claims ”
OK, a $9/hr employee makes $19k per year. “Affordable” insurance can’t be more than 9.5% of that for a family policy, so the employee contribution can’t be more than $150/mo. Unless you can find me a group policy that covers a family for an EE contribution of less than $150/mo, I’m going to conclude you have absolutely no frigging idea what the hell you’re talking about.
Enjoy your $25 pizza, keep. With every bite, I hope you keep in the back of your mind how that $25 price is helping the “less fortunate” APS dropouts get their healthcare for absolutely nothing. In fact, buy 4 this week just to do your patriotic part!!
“
Liberal Pariah
December 5th, 2012
9:59 pm
True leadership doesn’t hide behind a YouTube video when explaining how Americans were murdered….idiot.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
9:59 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/09/opinion/09iht-edcohen.1.11819315.html
This is just one. There are several more but they got hung up in the moderator.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 5th, 2012
9:59 pm
“”We Americans got so tired of being thought of as dumba**es by the rest of the world that we went to the polls this past November and removed all doubt.”
Is that joke a retread from 2005?
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
10:00 pm
http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/blue-europe–red-asia
Blue Europe. Red Asia. Looks like the decaying Europeans like Obama and the growth oriented Asians like the Rs.
RF
December 5th, 2012
10:01 pm
“Clean up your mess like you tell the children to clean up their room.
The adults are in charge.”
Oh, they’ve got a few more toys to throw and a little fit left in them. As I remember Andy saying to Opie when he tried throwing a fit to get what he wanted, “boy, you’re a sight!” Give them a little while to finish the fit before you think about opening the door…
appleseed
December 5th, 2012
10:01 pm
Obama has certainly knocked down some ego that is.
They BOTH suck
December 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
Thulsa
Post them and I will check them out in the morning. Got to get up early, so I am past bedtime.
FYI: I didn’t see where that first article mentioned McCain.
Did I miss something?
RF
December 5th, 2012
10:02 pm
“Your President is an Ivy League thug who has mistaken a narrow victory for a mandate”
dude, narrow is hanging chads and the SCOTUS deciding the election. 53-47 is a pretty solid win in politics.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
10:03 pm
“Unless you can find me a group policy that covers a family for an EE contribution of less than $150/mo, I’m going to conclude you have absolutely no frigging idea what the hell you’re talking about.”
I’ll go with the “you have absolutely no frigging idea what the hell you are talking about”. Its a recurring theme with tweedledum.
Liberal Pariah
December 5th, 2012
10:03 pm
Obama met with Al Sharpton about tax increases. Now if he could just get Al to pay his taxes…
Liberal Pariah
December 5th, 2012
10:04 pm
What does it say when the Democratice leader won’t let the Senate vote on Obama’s plan? heheheheheeheheheheheheh
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
10:05 pm
http://www.economist.com/blogs/certainideasofeurope/2008/10/blue_state_europe_red_state_as
3 of them they both suck
RF
December 5th, 2012
10:05 pm
“True leadership doesn’t hide behind a YouTube video”
yeah, that was pretty embarrassing when that doggone 47% video went viral. I guess we found out true leadership is only available to those of the silver spoon set…
Liberal Pariah
December 5th, 2012
10:05 pm
The non idiot part of America kept the House Republican and the country is still as divided as ever. The percentages show that.
RF
December 5th, 2012
10:06 pm
“Obama met with Al Sharpton about tax increases. Now if he could just get Al to pay his taxes…”
LOL
Now that’s funny- I don’t care what side of the political aisle you’re on!
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
“Obama met with Al Sharpton about tax increases.”
Hell he shoulda just met with Homey the clown. I mean really? What’s the difference other than a couple hundred pounds and Homey being a tad brighter?
Liberal Pariah
December 5th, 2012
10:07 pm
I made a Lib laugh…definitely time to go beddy bye.
Have A Nice Evening All
willydoit?
December 5th, 2012
10:08 pm
This is wrestling folks. Boehner and Obama act like they are mortal enemies and neither will give.
What’s that?? A CHAIR…SOMEONE THREW A CHAIR IN THE RING!!
After the match….they both split a six pack behind the curtain.
Never fear Jay…..the Republicans will give in as always….completely spineless…how do they even stand up?
They BOTH suck
December 5th, 2012
10:09 pm
TD
Real quick. Good info. Probably shows that you guys shouldn’t have feel for Gallup’s polls last month. Seems they might have been wrong since at least 08……
And at the end of the day, you know how Asian Americans vote
Later dude
getalife
December 5th, 2012
10:16 pm
“Is that joke a retread from 2005?”
The Brits wrote how can Americans be so dumb after the reelection of w.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
10:17 pm
Scout,
Yep. That’s the sad part. They’re grandparents know the horrors of socialism and know the joy of economic freedom. And then a couple of generations later they get dumbed down to believing the welfare state and creeping socialism is the way to go. Sad.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
10:17 pm
Their not they’re
getalife
December 5th, 2012
10:19 pm
“welfare state and creeping socialism is the way to go. Sad”
Stay the course with that garbage cons..
USA Patriot
December 5th, 2012
10:32 pm
“The Brits wrote how can Americans be so dumb after the reelection of w”
Yep, it’s working real well in Britain trying to stave off Sharia law and all the other “refugees” they took in.
Meanwhile, Iran is echoing the same statement ” how can Americans be so dumb after the reelection of O?”
getalife
December 5th, 2012
10:34 pm
How is Canada’s economy doing?
USA Patriot
December 5th, 2012
10:37 pm
“Oh Canada” has gonads, haven’t seen that since……..’08.
getalife
December 5th, 2012
10:39 pm
Yeah and Canada provides health care for their people like the rest of the civilized countries.
RB from Gwinnett
December 5th, 2012
10:39 pm
“What’s the difference other than a couple hundred pounds and Homey being a tad brighter?”
I’m sorry , but its not clear from the post. Are we talking about Sharpton or Obama? Not arguing the point either way….just want to know which side of the clown car to laugh at.
ld
December 5th, 2012
10:41 pm
In January, IF the WhiteHouse doesn’t fold, then every Democrat and Republican can truthfully hold a press conference and say that the will of Congress has been met — the Bush tax cuts have expired — just as Congress originally intended.
USA Patriot
December 5th, 2012
10:44 pm
You want healthcare, go to Canada…..then, visit FL about this time of year through MAR/APR and try to get an appointment w/ a doctor. Nope, all Cannucks coming to get “real” healthcare! But, that all stops as of ‘14 with O’care – and FL will be screaming about all of the lost revenue & lib’s will be crying about lost taxes………Puuulllllleeeeezzze!
George P. Burdell
December 5th, 2012
10:46 pm
It is crap articles like this that make me think it is just best for the Republicans to back off of all of it and let the Dems have their way and take ownership of what happens. The Repubs are going to take the hit no matter how it turns out so just let it go and play out. It is sad that this country has such a transparent spending problem, which will only get worse as more age, and yet this discussion has turned into a revenue issue involving at best $160 billion a year before we will even discuss fixing any expenses. I think the Republicans should just stand pat, say its all on you, and let the chips fall where they may.
USA Patriot
December 5th, 2012
10:47 pm
George – agree!
getalife
December 5th, 2012
10:50 pm
george.
That is called check mate.
barking frog
December 5th, 2012
10:54 pm
getalife
the Prez is a tricky man…
USA Patriot
December 5th, 2012
10:59 pm
get – at that point it’ll probably be “check your mate, ’cause who’s gonna pay for our stuff?”
George P. Burdell
December 5th, 2012
11:01 pm
Its not checkmate, rather you blather on about how this and this has done this. Let you guys take the reigns (not that you haven’t already, but just to make it clear) for a little while and see just how truly screwed up everything will end up.
getalife
December 5th, 2012
11:10 pm
By all means cons, give the President what he wants just like you did with w.
I guarantee there will be a better result.
No attacks in our country, no scandals, no collapses and no failed occupations.
You know it
December 5th, 2012
11:17 pm
“I guarantee there will be a better result.”
That’s exactly what they are afraid of happening.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 5th, 2012
11:17 pm
Jim Hussein DeMint is a total putz.
George P. Burdell
December 5th, 2012
11:33 pm
You are delusional. I’m certainly not afraid of a “better result”. Any sensible person would be all for a “better result”. I’m much more fearful that your idiotic ideas will lead to a less promising future for my child. I am raising him better than to expect handouts. That may cost him in the short run, but in the long run it will serve him well.
getalife
December 5th, 2012
11:37 pm
george,
Teach him how w took a surplus, exploded the deficit then collapsed the economy.
You know it
December 5th, 2012
11:53 pm
George
About time you stop being bitter and work to be better
That one letter is a stumbling block for you at this time.
You can do it. Start today
getalife
December 5th, 2012
11:59 pm
Then teach him how President Obama cleaned up w’s mess.
Rabbit
December 6th, 2012
12:11 am
In less than a decade we go from Karl Rove suggesting a permanent Republican majority to an utterly feckless Speaker Boehner presiding over the end of the Republican Party.
George P. Burdell
December 6th, 2012
12:16 am
Thank you for the advice. I’ll raise my kid as I see fit and that includes making sure to make a point when a hustler approaches us at the gas station to point out of why that is not an honorable way of making a living.
getalife
December 6th, 2012
12:32 am
Rabbit,
American politics is the best reality show on television.