Why the Republicans may regret holding the House

The worst thing to happen to Republicans in the 2012 election cycle will not turn out to be Mitt Romney’s defeat. Nor will it be their party’s squandering of a great opportunity to take the Senate.

No, the worst thing to happen to the Republican Party in 2012 was holding onto the House. That victory will be their undoing. It will cause major damage to the Republican brand and to Republican party unity. In fact, that victory — not the setbacks mentioned above — may end up being the catalyst that finally forces a rethinking of the GOP strategy and approach.

I understand that sounds odd, but it’s true. Without control of the House, Republicans would not be suffering through their current existential crisis. Without GOP control, it would be the responsibility of majority Democrats under Speaker Nancy Pelosi to provide the politically risky votes for tax hikes and spending cuts that are needed to correct our fiscal course.

The Republicans, in contrast, would be free to sit back, united, and do what they do well, which is preach the ideologically pure message that taxes must never be raised and entitlements are the whole problem. Come 2014, they could rally behind that message and make the Democrats pay at the ballot box.

History says that’s a great strategy. It’s exactly what Republicans did two decades ago, when Bill Clinton tackled a booming deficit by forcing through major tax hikes without a single Republican vote. While that proved successful as policy, the backlash led directly to the 1994 Gingrich Revolution and the first GOP House majority in 40 years.

This time, though, the Democrats don’t control the House. The Republicans do. They have the power and the votes, and thus they have the responsibility. And as the party in power in the House, the Republican leadership is somehow going to have to produce a significant number of votes in favor of higher taxes. They can scratch and claw and hem and haw and mumble about a coup d’etat against Boehner, but that’s how this chapter is destined to end.

And then what?

Those Republicans who took the practical and I would argue patriotic course of doing what was necessary will then engage in some rather heated “discussion”, we’ll call it, with those members who stayed the one true course, at least in their own minds. Again, you can already see that dynamic taking shape.

House Speaker John Boehner, for example, has thrown four of his fellow Republicans off of committees as a warning to others who might feel rebellious. Sen. Jim DeMint has lambasted what he calls “Speaker Boehner’s $800 billion tax hike.” Erick Erickson at RedState says the time has come for conservatives to “either start blowing stuff up or shut up.” Rush Limbaugh says the speaker is “conducting a seminar on how to surrender.”

And that rancor will only get worse. To millions in the GOP base, this is a betrayal of all that they’ve been taught to believe, committed by traitors to whom they looked as leaders.

I’ve seen suggestions on the left that this is all some sort of stage-managed, theatrical gamesmanship by conservatives to vent steam and prepare the base for the inevitable. It is not. A ban on tax hikes has been the core uniting issue for the Republicans for more than a generation, and it is being abandoned. It’s as if some strange and inconceivable combination of events had occurred that gave Democrats no choice but to produce votes in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade.

This is bone-deep stuff for the Republicans. This is who they are. This is 30-plus years of indoctrination running head on into brute fiscal reality, and the collision is going to create casualties.

Over the weekend, Grover Norquist predicted that this could lead to a newly reinvigorated Tea Party, and “Tea Party II is going to dwarf Tea Party I.” He may be right, in terms of Tea Party intensity if not size. It may also, simultaneously, lead to a resurgence among moderate Republicans unhappy with the extremism that the modern GOP has adopted and has talked itself into believing is the mainstream. Such splintering could produce any number of outcomes, and in the end I have no idea how you patch all that back together into a cohesive party.

But this is what happens when an inflexible, idealistic mantra perfectly suited for a party in opposition is actually implemented by a party that has power.

– Jay Bookman

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The Republican Civil War Begins

December 5th, 2012
6:27 pm

“Republicans will cave on the question of raising the tax rate for the highest-income Americans. The only question is whether they do so before or after the government goes over the so-called fiscal cliff.”

ABC News is reporting that Speaker Boehner is exploring a “doomsday” option that will let members vote “present” on the Senate’s bill to extend all the Bush tax cuts except on incomes over $250,000. As of yet, Grover Norquist, who enforces that American Taxpayer Pledge that all but a handful of congressional Republicans have signed, has not said if that “present” vote would violate his pledge to never raise taxes.”

http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-republican-civil-war-begins/

getalife

December 5th, 2012
6:28 pm

sheldon is benefiting from globalization of Sands resorts in the world.

He donates to cons in Israel and here and will continue to buy elections.

It is legal.

josef

December 5th, 2012
6:29 pm

NERO

I appreciate the compliment, and thank you. I’m not out to “defend” getalife or give him benefit of the doubt. He and I have tangled before, but I’m just saying that when it comes to the charge of anti Jewishness, I’ve never seen even a hint of that from him.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 5th, 2012
6:29 pm

Well Scooter, despite the silly idiotic rant by RB, we know prices are not going up to $9 burgers, etc. Pappa John’s indicated it would be $0.10 a pizza for them (although that does not mean that number is correct). We also don’t know what it would have cost had not Obamacare gone into effect (costs have been rising for some time). Darden has tested using part time employees and found that it hurt their business and consumers were not happy. So no, I don’t believe that garbage for one minute. But the chicken littles see anything as disaster. We’re stronger than that.

Nero

December 5th, 2012
6:30 pm

josef,

An informed person making jew baiting comments is still in the end, a jew baiter. He was clear with is choice of words and seems comfortable as well. Don’t defend him. It’s beneath you.

Nero

December 5th, 2012
6:31 pm

josef,

We’re cool man.

fedup

December 5th, 2012
6:32 pm

Boehner can do what Ehud Barak did in Isreal. He can take a bunch of RINOs form a separate party and make a deal with the Dem to remain a speaker. Then the TEA party can blow in the wind and foam and froth and whatever they do best. That will be a hoot.

Fred ™

December 5th, 2012
6:33 pm

Damn josef, I guess I caught the very end. I missed Jay being in your ass. Do I need to jack him up for you? I mean he’s banished my phrase that pays……………. I’m just looking for a good excuse. I’ll get him good. I will taunt him like a frenchman. He’s not gonna dis a Mississippi homeboy while I’M around lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs

TM

December 5th, 2012
6:33 pm

We are suppose to believe we would be better off if Pelosi was in charge of the house??? I have a new Poll– who is in favor or condemning Bookman’s neighborhood to construct a new land fill for Fulton county?? With the prices of homes depressed we can get it at a steal and reduce our garbage fees by millions a year. ,

Independent voter

December 5th, 2012
6:33 pm

Repubs in the House have a plan … just vote PRESENT like Obama did as a senator… then its up to Pelosi and the dumdocrats.. to raise taxes, cut spending , and balance the budget…. not a CHANCE !!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 5th, 2012
6:33 pm

But just to be clear Scooter, as with many others, I agree that employers should not have to cover healthcare for employees. We should have single payor and cover dental as well. Healthcare, as established by Nixon, is a right that should not be based on who can afford it and for those who cant, only emergency care at the costs of business and others.

josef

December 5th, 2012
6:34 pm

pogo

Oh, I’m the one who called him Imam…he do love his Sharia! :-)

getalife

December 5th, 2012
6:35 pm

Nero,

Jew baiting?

Too funny.

Wilbur

December 5th, 2012
6:35 pm

Praise God the republicans hold the house. Unlike Jay and his Liberal friends, politics might not be their god and and what the democrat toady media say might not be their end all and be all. Maybe they will week the Obamacrats from screwing up this country even more.

Fred ™

December 5th, 2012
6:36 pm

LOL They have the WHOLE Holy Grail movie on youtube. I never knew that. For the young pup Nero……..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyIZK7GWSPI

F. Sinkwich

December 5th, 2012
6:36 pm

The House is the only institution standing between America and euro-socialist Armageddon. Like the brave patriots during the Battle of the Alamo, conservatives are heroically holding out against the Santa Anna-like moonbat siege of all that made this country great.

Need proof of what miserable things can happen when the maker-hating takers control both houses of congress and the power of a lunatic POTUS? See 2009-2011.

josef

December 5th, 2012
6:37 pm

NERO

Just saying, I didn’t see it as Jew Baiting…and I’ll jump on that bait as quick as a Mississippi mud cat! :-)

TM

December 5th, 2012
6:38 pm

And for those who this families making 250K a year or more should pay their fair share. What about the single person with no kid making 175K? Why don’t they help out??

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 5th, 2012
6:40 pm

:lol: Sinky thinks the Texans won at the Alamo. Guess he’s never visited the basement there.

Independent voter

December 5th, 2012
6:40 pm

Jay Bookman needs a real JOB and a real LIFE !!!

Mick

December 5th, 2012
6:40 pm

sink

I think the republicans have nothing to offer except their fealty and loyalty to the 2% wealthy class. That strategy is both a short term and long term loser…

Nero

December 5th, 2012
6:41 pm

getalife,

Laugh it up. We know exactly what you meant. Go back to the trough. Maybe if you’re too busy stealing from future generations, you won’t have time to post your jew hating words.

Real Scootter

December 5th, 2012
6:41 pm

Thanks for the comeback Keep!I see where you are coming from now. My roommate is a chicken little,after Obama was re-elected he ran around here trowing his arms up in the air so much that I thought he was going aloft. lol

moonbat betty

December 5th, 2012
6:41 pm

Good thing the Obama and the dems have a scape goat.

Otherwise they may have to claim responsibility for something…anything.

The Bush thing is beginning to get stale

Fore!!

getalife

December 5th, 2012
6:41 pm

The “mafia” tried to go global with casinos in Cuba but sheldon took it to a whole new level and is one of the most powerful figures in Israeli and American politics.

Meyer Lansky would be impressed.

jconservative

December 5th, 2012
6:41 pm

“Well, I sure hope they don’t vote for a tax increase.”

Relax Redneck. No one is going to vote for a tax increase. No one is going to be asked to vote for a tax increase. That was done in December 2010. Taxes are going up on 100% of taxpayers 1/1/2013. No one is going to be asked to vote for anything but a tax cut. Republicans can vote to give 100% of taxpayers a Tax Cut on their first $250,000 of income and not vote for a dime of tax increases on anyone. Just make sure the wording is correct.

This is the US Congress located in Washington, DC and this is the DC way of doing things.

Georgia on my mind...

December 5th, 2012
6:42 pm

Jay, this is one of your better articles. Excellent observation!!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 5th, 2012
6:43 pm

The Bush thing is beginning to get stale

Yes… according to you wingnuts it was stale before Bush left office

Rand Paul: Ashley Judd 'Way Damn Too Liberal' For Kentucky

December 5th, 2012
6:46 pm

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) doesn’t want actress, activist and potential Democratic candidate Ashley Judd as his fellow Kentucky senator, but he doesn’t expect her to get there anyway, he said Wednesday.
“She’s way damn too liberal for our country, for our state,” he told radio station WMAL. “She hates our biggest industry, which is coal. I say, good luck bringing the ‘I hate coal’ message to Kentucky.”
Judd is reportedly considering a run for U.S. Senate in either 2014 or 2016. If she ran in 2014, she would be challenging the top Republican in the upper chamber: Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). If she waited until 2016, though, she would be up against Paul.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/05/rand-paul-ashley-judd_n_2245171.html?ref=topbar

josef

December 5th, 2012
6:46 pm

FRED

Merci, Mec. Je lui donnais une course pour son dollar révisionniste et, tant pis, j’ai fait une erreur et j’ai dû faire la marche arrière une étape … qui lui doit avoir rendu heureux, alors … :-)

moonbat betty

December 5th, 2012
6:46 pm

Keep, keep making excuses if that is what works for ya.

Jay

December 5th, 2012
6:48 pm

Nero, stop. Just stop. Is stupid, mindless provocation all you have to offer?

josef

December 5th, 2012
6:49 pm

getalife

“Meyer Lansky would be impressed.”

Anti-Semitic Jew Baiter… :-)

Doggone/GA

December 5th, 2012
6:49 pm

“Is stupid, mindless provocation is all you have to offer?”

short answer: yes

Since the first post he made here

josef

December 5th, 2012
6:52 pm

Oh, cr*p! Big Daddy’s here…I guess I’m going to have to be nice.. Just when I was about to get provocated! . :-)

getalife

December 5th, 2012
6:55 pm

josef,

I have been called worse :)

F. Sinkwich

December 5th, 2012
6:55 pm

“Sinky thinks the Texans won at the Alamo.”

Nope.

pete

December 5th, 2012
6:56 pm

Dems have been driving this bus for 4 years. I say we just let the damn thing crash, and then sit back and enjoy the democratic circular firing squad. Once our debt hits 20 trillion, and unemployment goes above 10%, we can sit back, smile, and say “see, I told you so”.

stands for decibels

December 5th, 2012
6:59 pm

Don’t get me wrong–I really like Jay a lot. Great guy. Has a lot of good ideas. But

for tax hikes and spending cuts that are needed to correct our fiscal course.

I really wish Jay didn’t believe this.

getalife

December 5th, 2012
7:00 pm

filky,

You are not in Alamo.

RB from Gwinnett

December 5th, 2012
7:00 pm

Keep, “Pappa John’s indicated it would be $0.10 a pizza for them ”

How about backing that up, keep.

F. Sinkwich

December 5th, 2012
7:03 pm

“Pappa John’s indicated it would be $0.10 a pizza for them ”

Bwaahahahahahahaha

josef

December 5th, 2012
7:03 pm

Remember the Alamo? The one on Hwy, 80 in Jackson? And how!!! :-)

stands for decibels

December 5th, 2012
7:04 pm

Real Scootter

December 5th, 2012
7:04 pm

As smart as nero is,I don’t know why he hasn’t figured out that getalife is bulletproof! :grin:

Fred ™

December 5th, 2012
7:06 pm

Josef: Aïe, cela doit avoir blessé. Je lui donnerai une coupure alors.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 5th, 2012
7:06 pm

Why sure RB. I was wrong. The guy from PJ claimed 11-14 cents a pizza. Other analysis says less than a nickel. Now be a good chicken little wingnuts and back up your claims or just admit you don’t know what you are ranting about and apologize. I don’t think you have the ability to know the truth or to admit you were completely and absolutely wrong.

Schnatter, a Romney supporter who held a fundraiser for the former Republican nominee, said in August that Obamacare would cost the company between 11 and 14 cents per pizza. Subsequent analysis by Caleb Melby of Forbes found that the price increase would actually be closer 3.4 to 3.6 cents per pie.

Fred ™

December 5th, 2012
7:07 pm

Hey josef: They were talking Rick Perry rumors and such downstairs and someone said he was going to make “a big announcement” soon. I posted this as a guide for him. Hope you like it. :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oT8f5k1W8k

Fred ™

December 5th, 2012
7:09 pm

And now I am off. Ya’ll be chilly.

stands for decibels

December 5th, 2012
7:09 pm

since I was lookin’ at the Shnatter claim myself, here’s the original documentation with that per-pizza claim..

http://www.pizzamarketplace.com/article/198309/Papa-John-s-turns-in-strong-domestic-and-international-Q2

TaxPayer

December 5th, 2012
7:11 pm

On Tuesday, FedEx Chairman and CEO Fred Smith, an adviser to Sen. John McCain’s presidential campaign, said that the notion that tax hikes on the richest Americans would kill jobs was simply “mythology.”

And on Monday, a gathering of the nation’s top defense executives took a surprising turn when they endorsed tax rate increases on the wealthy and cuts of up to $150 billion to the Pentagon’s budget. Top executives from Northrop Grumman, Pratt & Whitney, TASC and RTI International Metals appeared at the National Press Club at an event organized by the Aerospace Industries Association, the top defense contractor lobbyist.

Poor Republicans. They’re even losing support from their 2 percenters. Now that’s gotta hurt.

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:14 pm

“Judd is reportedly considering a run for U.S. Senate in either 2014 or 2016. If she ran in 2014, she would be challenging the top Republican in the upper chamber: Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). If she waited until 2016, though, she would be up against Paul.”

Dang it, did I sleep through someone changing the constitution? Don’t senators still have 6 year terms? Wouldn’t she run in 2014 or 2020?

RF

December 5th, 2012
7:15 pm

“The House is the only institution standing between America and euro-socialist Armageddon.”

I know that’s what they said at the Texas Secession seminar, but that just don’t make it so….

RF

December 5th, 2012
7:19 pm

“They’re even losing support from their 2 percenters. Now that’s gotta hurt.”

Yeah, because a lot of them have nice government contracts that would likely be hurt if the automatic cuts kick in. For them, it’s either pay a little more in taxes or risk losing a LOT of nice profit for potentially a long time. My suspicion is that if the defense budget were cut, a close examination of spending over there might reveal some of the sweetheart deals the public is quietly unaware of for the most part. They’re realizing they need to pony up a little more in the short term to protect themselves in the long run.

josef

December 5th, 2012
7:19 pm

FRED

Eh bien, J’ai dû dire que j’ai eu erreur … ,ça qu’il lui-même ne ferait jamais … donc j’ai fini par être le meilleur homme … ça en valait la peine! :-)

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:21 pm

Wow, I wish I could remember that French class from 37 years ago.

RF

December 5th, 2012
7:21 pm

“Judd is reportedly considering a run for U.S. Senate in either 2014 or 2016″

I bet she’d be a lot better at appealing to the regular folks there in Kentucky that Rand or McConnell, who basically worship at the coal mine owners’ shrine. I gotta tell you, I may not play for the regular Joe team, but that is one good looking woman who could charm a lot of voters, IMO.

TaxPayer

December 5th, 2012
7:22 pm

Was that Rand Paul that was overheard telling Ashley Judd that, being a woman, she should know that women folk are able to reject sperm during a legitimate rape.

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:22 pm

La plume de ma tant.

Tdawg

December 5th, 2012
7:24 pm

The Republicans need to STFU and do as they are told. I will give the Republican party a little of their own advice. Like that jerk Governor in Ohio told the Democrats while they were in the process of sticking it to the Ohio middle class. Seems to me he told the Democrats that the people voted us into office to run this state, so we are going to do the peoples will weather the Democratic party likes it or not. Pretty sure Obama was elected by the people. So take some of your own advice and do as the ELECTED HEAD HANCHO told you bunch of losers to do.

By the way. I don’t like Obama/Democrats. Then again, I don’t like the Republicans either. Just like first time Obama won the election and the Republican party got on national TV and lied through their teeth, promising to work with Obama. Well seems after making the same promise this time they’ve done exactly as I knew they would. They wasted absolutely no time in once again lying threw their teeth again. Just like last time the Republican party has absolutely no intention of helping Obama. Those bunch of pompas arse jerks would rather watch this country go up in flames rather then work with Obama. Suck it up losers. After Obama you’ll have Hillary to deal with. Why would any sane person vote for a party of nothing but liar’s?

josef

December 5th, 2012
7:24 pm

FRED

So…if Perry can do it, is the Wa-do far behind… :-)

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:24 pm

Hmmm. Or was it le plume de ma tant? tante? taunt?

The Republican Civil War Begins

December 5th, 2012
7:26 pm

“Dang it, did I sleep through someone changing the constitution? Don’t senators still have 6 year terms? Wouldn’t she run in 2014 or 2020?”

Mitch McConnell was reelected in 2008 while Rand Paul began serving his first term in 2010. The internet is a useful tool to find out all sorts of information. Avail yourself of this tool before exposing your ignorance.

josef

December 5th, 2012
7:27 pm

Nunna

Repitez… un bon vin blanc! :-)

Tundra Dude

December 5th, 2012
7:27 pm

Eh bien, J’ai dû dire que j’ai eu erreur … ,ça qu’il lui-même ne ferait jamais … donc j’ai fini par être le meilleur homme … ça en valait la peine!

Google translator:
Well, I had to say that I was wrong … that he himself would never … so I ended up being the best man … it was worth it!

stands for decibels

December 5th, 2012
7:27 pm

I’ve heard next to nothing about this whole Ashley Judd for Senator business, but it raises a question.

We don’t think a whole lot about businessmen who choose to run for office. We don’t really raise an eyebrow when some banker or car dealer runs for Senate. But a successful entertainer, for some reason, that raises eyebrows.

How is that entertainer–someone who faces some of the roughest odds-against success and overcomes and succeeds–any less qualified to be a political representative, than some flippin’ banker or car dealer?

I guess I’m still smarting from people who seemed to think that Al Franken somehow wasn’t qualified, even though he was clearly about as much of a policy wonk sorta guy as you could possibly find, who wasn’t already in politics, professionally. (and really, having hosted a radio talk show for several years, he really was.)

/soapbox

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:28 pm

Excuse me for not staying on top of my Kentucky politicians. We all can’t be as wonderful as you Republican Civil War.

stands for decibels

December 5th, 2012
7:29 pm

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:30 pm

dB – Sonny Bono too.

Jay

December 5th, 2012
7:30 pm

Ms. Judd is indeed an attractive actress, but as a political candidate she would be, well, an attractive actress.

pete

December 5th, 2012
7:31 pm

I got the following e-mail from an ex-colleague today. Spin this however you would like.

Hey —–, hope you are doing well. We need to get together for lunch sometime. Anyway…we just lost 12 more folks on Friday. This is getting to be a normal and familiar process around here. Seems odd though…every one of them supported Obama. Wow, voting does have consequences. Folks are yanking off those Obama bumper stickers real fast now. Haha…

Holla back when you can!

Later.

stands for decibels

December 5th, 2012
7:31 pm

Excuse me for not staying on top of my Kentucky politicians

If Ashley gets elected, I’d be willing to stay on top of her for you.

[slapping own wrist.]

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 5th, 2012
7:31 pm

stands, well I am sure that our wingnuts would have no problem with Chuck Norris running. They did not have much problem with the Arnold or there was that other actor who worked with a chimp…or the one that spoke to an empty chair

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:31 pm

I bet she’d get a lot of votes from her male constituents.

getalife

December 5th, 2012
7:32 pm

Senator Judd sounds good to me.

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:32 pm

dB – I was gonna suggest that myself, but I didn’t know if that would go over very well.

josef

December 5th, 2012
7:33 pm

@ 7:27

“répétez”

Pardonnez-moi, Grand-mère! Je l’écrirai les dix fois ..

:-) .

stands for decibels

December 5th, 2012
7:34 pm

– I was gonna suggest that myself, but I didn’t know if that would go over very well.

Well, that was my quota of stupid, sexist jokes for the week. Why don’t you use yours tomorrow?

think I’ll indulge in some dessert. Might be back in a bit.

Doggone/GA

December 5th, 2012
7:34 pm

“but as a political candidate she would be, well, an attractive actress.”

Did you know that James Earl Jones has a disabling stutter, and that whenever you hear him speaking normally…he’s acting. She can always act her way through being a politician. She couldn’t hardly to worse than the politicians who think they can act…but can’t.

Brosephus™

December 5th, 2012
7:35 pm

If I were a comedian, I could get enough material from this blog to write for a thousand other comedians and never use the same joke twice…

No, the worst thing to happen to the Republican Party in 2012 was holding onto the House. That victory will be their undoing. It will cause major damage to the Republican brand and to Republican party unity. In fact, that victory — not the defeats mentioned above — may very well end up being the catalyst that finally forces a rethinking of the GOP strategy and approach.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In order to “rethink” strategy, the GOP would have to think strategy first. As is obvious from the near perfect robotic regurgitation of their rhetoric over the past 3-4 decades, I think the collective brains of the GOP have been on autopilot for so long, the synapses no longer fire off enough to make thinking possible.

I can see your logic Jay, but your critical mistake is trying to apply logic into a logic-resistant situation. You have to consider that hubris is strong with that group. With them controlling as many state governments as they do, there will be no rethinking at all. If anything, there will be regrouping and retrenching.

josef

December 5th, 2012
7:36 pm

Ronald Ray-gun got to be POTUS and he wasn’t even attractive…

RF

December 5th, 2012
7:37 pm

“or the one that spoke to an empty chair”

I think, ironically, that was a bit of foreshadowing in that wacky performance at the convention. The more some of the far-right talks, the more empty chairs there are around them…

Judd discusses her stance on the hip-hop culture

December 5th, 2012
7:37 pm

Brosephus™

December 5th, 2012
7:38 pm

betty: Good thing the Obama and the dems have a scape goat.

Otherwise they may have to claim responsibility for something…anything.

Has that not been the GOP playbook since 2009? I have yet to hear either party claim responsibility for anything, but they damn sure know how to point out the faults of their opposition.

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:38 pm

josef – considering that he was about 3000 years old, he looked ok.

Ronnie Raygun

December 5th, 2012
7:38 pm

If mandatory heath insurance would create $25 pizzas, why did the Papa John’s Romney supporting CEO claim it would only add $.14 to each pizza? Was he really a secret Obama supporter?

josef

December 5th, 2012
7:39 pm

DOGGONE

So did Winston Churchill…and a lot of others…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stutterers

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:40 pm

When 900 years old you are, look as good you will not.

saywhat?

December 5th, 2012
7:41 pm

RB from Gwinnett

December 5th, 2012
7:00 pm
Keep, “Pappa John’s indicated it would be $0.10 a pizza for them ”

How about backing that up, keep.

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F. Sinkwich

December 5th, 2012
7:03 pm
“Pappa John’s indicated it would be $0.10 a pizza for them ”

Bwaahahahahahahaha
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Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 5th, 2012
7:06 pm
Why sure RB. I was wrong. The guy from PJ claimed 11-14 cents a pizza. Other analysis says less than a nickel. Now be a good chicken little wingnuts and back up your claims or just admit you don’t know what you are ranting about and apologize. I don’t think you have the ability to know the truth or to admit you were completely and absolutely wrong.

Schnatter, a Romney supporter who held a fundraiser for the former Republican nominee, said in August that Obamacare would cost the company between 11 and 14 cents per pizza. Subsequent analysis by Caleb Melby of Forbes found that the price increase would actually be closer 3.4 to 3.6 cents per pie.

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And RB and stink slink away, with their azzes thoroughly kicked, to go home, lick their wounds, and perhaps creep back when they think everybody has forgotten their total humiliation at the hands of a simple google search, one they were too feeble to make on their own.
Then they will again spout crap they believe in their heart of hearts to be true, about things which they know absolutely nothing about, until once again they are publicly humilitated and the cyle repeats itself. And so it will ever be. Sigh.

RF

December 5th, 2012
7:41 pm

“hubris is strong with that group. With them controlling as many state governments as they do, there will be no rethinking at all. If anything, there will be regrouping and retrenching.”

And that is what will either split the party into two separate entities or relegate what we currently know as the Republican party to a weakened shell of itself. The state level party will continue for a while until they get squeezed out. That’s gonna take a decade, I believe, and only then will what is left of the party be able to regroup and begin rebuilding some political clout.

Brosephus™

December 5th, 2012
7:42 pm

She can always act her way through being a politician. She couldn’t hardly to worse than the politicians who think they can act…but can’t.

AMEN!!!!

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:42 pm

Speaking of stutterers, have any of you ever heard Porky Pig singing “I’ll have a blue, blue Christmas”? Hysterical.

Doggone/GA

December 5th, 2012
7:42 pm

“So did Winston Churchill…and a lot of others”

Yes, I know…but I get pretty annoyed at anyone who seems to think a performer simply CAN’T do anything else, or have any other interests. I have no idea whether she is a good actress or not, but her acting ability is almost certainly NO indication of whether or not she would be good in politics.

Brosephus™

December 5th, 2012
7:43 pm

saywhat?

RB and Sinkwich are immune to humiliation.

Just sayin’

RF

December 5th, 2012
7:43 pm

“Ronald Ray-gun got to be POTUS and he wasn’t even attractive…”

And he swore he never colored his hair. RIIIIIGHT…

F. Sinkwich

December 5th, 2012
7:45 pm

“Those bunch of pompas arse jerks would rather watch this country go up in flames rather then work with Obama. Suck it up losers.”

If O’bozo gets his way, the country does indeed go up in flames.

Thanks for playing.

Brosephus™

December 5th, 2012
7:46 pm

RF

I disagree. When you have a party that prides itself on it’s “conservative Christian values” and overwhelmingly elects politicians like Nathan Deal, they are not going to lose much of anything. There’s probably at least 40% of the electorate in places, like Georgia, that will vote for the Republican candidate if their own parent or child was running as the Democratic opposition. The Republican Party ain’t going anywhere when you have mindless support like that.

Nunna Yobinnes

December 5th, 2012
7:47 pm

Brosephus – when your choices are Deal or Raw-ee, I’m just sayin’

saywhat?

December 5th, 2012
7:48 pm

Brosephus™

December 5th, 2012
7:43 pm
saywhat?

RB and Sinkwich are immune to humiliation.

Just sayin’
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It must be that it requires too much introspection, shame, or a lack of pathologically severe narcissism. Or maybe they are just masochists and get off on the repeated punishment.

josef

December 5th, 2012
7:49 pm

DOGGONE

I agree…