A little sympathy for Boehner? OK, but just a little
You have to feel a least a little sorry for John Boehner.
In fact, I wouldn’t blame the speaker of the House for wondering what terrible thing he did in some previous life to deserve being handed this budget mess. He finds himself under siege not just by his opponents, which is to be expected, but by his supposed friends as well.
And despite what some of those “friends” would like to believe, this is a battle that Boehner cannot fight and win, and he knows it. The issues at stake in the budget standoff are essentially the same issues fought out during the presidential campaign, and as speaker, Boehner has neither the pulpit nor the firepower to win against Obama where Mitt Romney failed.
That was confirmed by a new poll released Tuesday in which just 27 percent of Americans said they would blame President Obama if budget negotiations fail and the country is forced off the so-called fiscal cliff. Almost twice as many — 53 percent — would blame congressional Republicans. And yes, while Boehner deserves some of the blame for that situation, it is shared by the entire Republican Party. For years, they have celebrated themselves as unbending and uncompromising, making stubborn intransigence a point of party pride.
So they have no right to be dismayed that that’s how the American public has come to see them.
In a belated effort to try to dispel that image, Boehner proposed a budget package Monday that included $800 billion in increased taxes, a step that he and his fellow Republicans had long insisted they would never take. If you overlook the fact that the math doesn’t work — it is impossible to raise the $800 billion in promised revenue through the tax changes offered by Boehner — the proposal does represents a welcome step toward reality.
And for taking that step, Boehner has of course been hammered by those who are supposedly on his side. Sen. Jim DeMint, a South Carolina Republican, said that “Speaker Boehner’s $800 billion tax hike will destroy American jobs and allow politicians in Washington to spend even more, while not reducing our $16 trillion debt by a single penny.” The conservative Heritage Foundation followed suit, calling the Boehner plan “little more than categorical, pre-emptive capitulation.”
And of course, the proposal that conservatives saw as “capitulation” was rejected by Obama as far short of what will be needed in a final deal. The president noted that he ran for re-election on a promise to end the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest of Americans, and he repeated his insistence that it be included as part of any final package.
Clearly, after years of GOP obstruction, Obama isn’t in the mood to let Boehner off lightly.
In his package, Boehner did make at least two proposals that ought to be seriously considered:
— The speaker advocated a slight change in how future cost-of-living adjustments are made to Social Security benefits, a reform that would affect mainly Social Security recipients who have other sources of income. It’s a change that Obama tentatively agreed to more than a year ago, before negotiations failed. Including it in the final deal would give Boehner political cover as an entitlement reform and would also be good fiscal policy.
— Boehner also proposed saving money by delaying Medicare eligibility from age 65 to age 67. It’s a popular proposal among Republicans, who justify it by pointing out that people are now living longer. However, that isn’t true across the board. Among upper-income, presumably white-collar Americans, the average lifespan of a 60-year-old male has indeed increased by more than six years since 1972. But among lower-income males, it increased by only two years. For those in more physically demanding, lower-income jobs, delaying Medicare coverage would be a real hardship.
Given that increasing lifespan differential, however, it would be perfectly reasonable to charge wealthier Americans slightly higher monthly Medicare premiums, as Boehner proposes. Because that would be scored as an entitlement cut, it would also help Boehner fend off those in his own party who are going to be very unhappy with the deal that is eventually reached.
That too is something Obama has to keep in mind.
– Jay Bookman
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Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
2:33 pm
Nero
December 5th, 2012
1:56 pm
Fred,
Debt of Honor? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! You read to much Tom Clancy. Same entitlement mentality as the rest of Generation Greed. You are owed nothing. Get over yourself. Stop whining about your service. Nobody cares anymore if you put on a uniform and marched around. As for your balls, I’ll let you handle that.
++++++++++++++
Spoken like a true chicken hawk living in his mom’s basement.
Doggone/GA
December 5th, 2012
2:34 pm
“Oh and did I mention I am a french model. Bon jour”
Can’t you just see the casting call for that commercial: Wanted, male actor who is EMPHATICALLY NOT a French model”
Erwin's cat
December 5th, 2012
2:36 pm
Spoken like a true chicken hawk living in his mom’s basement.
where else will he play Halo 4 and call of duty – black ops??
moonbat betty
December 5th, 2012
2:45 pm
Nero,
That response to Fred was uncalled for. Fred doesn’t parade around his service and your statement is disgusting.
Bro,
It’s all good. I like both you and Doom.
Nothing wrong with kicking up some dust every once in while.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
2:47 pm
where else will he play Halo 4 and call of duty – black ops??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYCufWb0Pmo#t=02m36s
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
2:51 pm
betty
No problem. I have no personal animosity towards anybody here. I tend to think that I treat everybody with respect. When I feel that somebody’s being disrespectful towards me, then I return the favor. Doom got his cheap shots in long before I said a single word to him. When you kick an ant hill, you can’t complain about the ants biting you back.
getalife
December 5th, 2012
2:53 pm
Get em moonbat.
nero,
Hate the troops much?
Self ban.
pete
December 5th, 2012
2:56 pm
I hope nothing happens and we go over that cliff. Let is go Republicans, and let the dems try to fix it themselves. In 4 years when the deficit hits 20 trillion, who will the dems blame? Silly me, it will probably still be Bush’s fault.
Let them drive us over the cliff.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
2:56 pm
Fred,
Maybe if you rub your Purple Heart, click your heels together three times, and repeat ” There’s no place like home” you can travel back to a time where I give a s***. Nobody cares about soldier time and your Cold War delusions of grandeur. Your personal insults are weak. Typical Bookman sycophant protocol.
DownInAlbany
December 5th, 2012
2:58 pm
“What we said was give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues, which could be accomplished without hiking taxes — tax rates, but could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes, eliminating some deductions and engaging in a tax reform process that could have lowered rates generally while broadening the base.” Anyone like to guess who this is? (President Barack Obama, July 22, 2011)
Flip-flop?
Nero
December 5th, 2012
2:58 pm
Get,
No I just don’t care about them. It’s an all volunteer force and a free country. They make their own choices. Go back to the trough before the other Boomer pigs take your place.
getalife
December 5th, 2012
2:58 pm
nero,
“Nobody cares about soldier time”
Get lost.
moonbat betty
December 5th, 2012
2:59 pm
“Nobody cares about soldier time and your Cold War delusions of grandeur.”
Nero,
You are wrong and a p***y.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 5th, 2012
3:00 pm
“SILENCE IS LIKE AGREEMENT”
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:00 pm
Bro,
Don’t you have some tickets to write? Bad cop! No doughnut!
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:01 pm
Betty,
You would know all about p**** wouldn’t you?
Fly-On-The-Wall
December 5th, 2012
3:01 pm
Betty,
No, Nero just doesn’t like anything. He’s one of those little children that isn’t happy with anything that his mommy gives him. Or, he could be one of those Goth teenagers. Take your pick but they all apply.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:02 pm
Get,
Stop leeching Boomer.
moonbat betty
December 5th, 2012
3:03 pm
Yes, Nero, and you are a typical one.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:03 pm
Fly,
You forgot to imply I’m a cutter too. You’re slipping.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 5th, 2012
3:04 pm
RED CARD in 3…2…1….
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
3:04 pm
Nero
December 5th, 2012
2:56 pm
Fred,
Maybe if you rub your Purple Heart, click your heels together three times, and repeat ” There’s no place like home” you can travel back to a time where I give a s***. Nobody cares about soldier time and your Cold War delusions of grandeur. Your personal insults are weak. Typical Bookman sycophant protocol.
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Wow. what a hoot. I’ve never said a thing about a purple heart, wounds, or much about my service. This isn’t about me.
Are you on drugs or are you just a total weirdo trying to insult anyone and everyone you can? Have you ever sought treatment?
As to the cold war, the wall fell and Russia capitulated within 2 years of the time I joined, so once again, you got failed in your insults. I guess you are having a rough day today sport getting attention so you’ll just keep getting nastier and nastier and tell more lies until someone engages you. I feel really sorry for you.
I can’t imagine the emotional desert you exist in to be in that much pain that you would stoop to such levels on the internet of all places to get attention. I’d pray for you except I don’t pray. I’ll just heave a sigh in relief secure in the knowledge that I have NEVER been as unhappy for you. I really feel sorry for you and hope you can find some relief. However if attacking me, erroneously or not keeps you from going all postal and shooting a bunch of folks or even yourself, then by all means, attack away, better me on the internet than some poor soul where you live………
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
3:04 pm
Albany, which wingnut talk show did you get it from and what was the full clip of what Obama said, because ya know you guys are known for taking things out of context.
DownInAlbany
December 5th, 2012
3:06 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
3:04 pm
Actually,it came from the decidedly liberal Huffington Post. Care to comment further?
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
3:06 pm
Don’t you have some tickets to write?
I don’t write tickets.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:08 pm
Fred,
You bit didn’t you? Go congratulate yourself about your service. Nobody cares. An I’m completely content in knowing the well you leeches keep digging is almost dried up. I am more than happy. I’m down right giddy.
DownInAlbany
December 5th, 2012
3:09 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
3:04 pm
And, the libs conveniently choose to ignore the fact that Obama called Bush, what was it?, oh yeah, “unpatriotic” for raising the debt ceiling in 2007!
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
3:09 pm
Alright Nero, glad to see you aren’t out shooting anyone. Cool.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:10 pm
Kammie found a pic of her when she was little! Adorable sport!
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
3:11 pm
DownInAlbany
December 5th, 2012
3:09 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
3:04 pm
And, the libs conveniently choose to ignore the fact that Obama called Bush, what was it?, oh yeah, “unpatriotic” for raising the debt ceiling in 2007!
++++++++++++++++++++
Wow, and Rush has only been off air for 10 minutes………..
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:11 pm
Fred,
You’re the one trained to shoot people. Any other sage advice you may have leaned during your “service”?
Steve
December 5th, 2012
3:13 pm
Poor Nero. Probably on welfare himself. Projecting his leechiness to us all who actually aren’t on the dole.
the cat
December 5th, 2012
3:13 pm
Nero were you bullied in elementary school?
Fly-On-The-Wall
December 5th, 2012
3:14 pm
Just ignore Nero – he feeds on the attention. He’s nothing but a troll.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
3:15 pm
Albany, you have links to support your claims? Please post
stands for decibels
December 5th, 2012
3:16 pm
Not many people know this but “The Simpson-Bowles Plan” is magic. It is whatever you want it to be. It will fix the deficit and grow the economy and it does it without raising taxes on anyone, unless you want to raise taxes on some people, and then it does that. It cuts all government spending but in a way that doesn’t hurt Medicare or The Troops. If you stand in front of a mirror and say “Simpson-Bowles” three times David Gergen and Gloria Borger appear out of nowhere and praise your wisdom and seriousness. “The Simpson-Bowles Plan” gives you Your Country Back and makes it the ’90s again, or the ’50s, or whatever past decade you wish it was, when things were better. Simpson and Bowles were two kindly wizards and they granted America three wishes but dumb Washington, D.C., is too Partisan to make the wishes.
getalife
December 5th, 2012
3:16 pm
nero is a leecher.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:17 pm
Steve,
How did you know?! You’re such a smart detective! Keep it up and you just may get that gold star from Bookman.
AU Liberal in ATL
December 5th, 2012
3:18 pm
Zip. Zero. Nada. He helped build that sleazy shack of a house, let him live in it.
Steve
December 5th, 2012
3:19 pm
I love it how conservatives are coming apart at their seams right now as their party unravels and becomes irrelevant
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:19 pm
getalife is a retired Generation Leech Boomer who likes to steal from the future to satisfy his greedy appetite.
getalife
December 5th, 2012
3:21 pm
nero,
Do you even have a job?
Mommie will kick you out one day child.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:22 pm
I love how the leeches are whistling past the graveyard and patting themselves on the back about the election. Your hubris induced fall will be that much sweeter when the shoe drops.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:23 pm
getalife,
Yes I have a wonderful job. Thanks for asking. When she does can I come live with you grandpa?
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
3:23 pm
dB
getalife
December 5th, 2012
3:24 pm
nero,
No.
stands for decibels
December 5th, 2012
3:27 pm
…and I thought *I* was angry about yesterday’s Senate treaty vote.
http://bit.ly/TQkrcY
Read the treaty yourself. It’s a bracing statement in favor of the dignity of people with disabilities. Bob Dole supports it, as does George W. Bush, who negotiated it. Eight Republicans, who were just a little weary of the mother####ing, voted for it, too. Why? Because it’s a ####ing treaty to help the disabled that changes nothing in U.S. law, but makes a statement that the world acknowledges the rights of a certain group of people. And because when that comes up, you vote for it, unless you’re a…well, you know by now.
So that’s two of us.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
3:29 pm
dB
I was wondering if you had read today’s post… My question is answered before I could ask it.
JamVet
December 5th, 2012
3:29 pm
Zero is an attention troll.
And as Hillbilly Deluxe once wrote, “I’ve flushed better than him.”
stands for decibels
December 5th, 2012
3:30 pm
also, too:
So it was that yesterday, 38 Republicans voted against ratifying the United Nations Convention on Rights of Persons with Disabilities, a 2006 treaty that’s been ratified by 126 nations, including Pakistan, Myanmar, and Uganda (and, you know, most of Europe and South America, as well as China). Why did enough Republicans oppose the treaty, which does little more than say, “Hey, we should try to make the lives of people with disabilities a little less sh-tty,” to deny it the two-thirds needed? Because sovereignty. Or freedom. Or something.
(those grafs I’ve posted were the cleanest. The rest, well, just read the rest of the damn thing yourself.)
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:32 pm
Get,
I promise to go down to the mailbox of each of your three houses and dutifully bring you your multiple benefit checks each and every month. C’mon! Say yes. Please?
Union
December 5th, 2012
3:33 pm
“Citi to Cut 11,000 Jobs as New CEO Moves to Slash Costs .”
must be from all those profits bookman was talking about..
getalife
December 5th, 2012
3:33 pm
nero,
Get your own house leech.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:35 pm
JellyVet,
Thanks for your observations. You may now continue your normal diatribes against Republicans.
JamVet
December 5th, 2012
3:35 pm
<i….must be from all those profits bookman was talking about..
Just more money for the CEO…
oops
December 5th, 2012
3:35 pm
Bush’s fault has been replaced by: Romney’s fault. Even though the guy doesn’t have power. How pathetic.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/romney-can-retire-later/2012/12/04/6405611a-3e62-11e2-ae43-cf491b837f7b_story.html?tid=pm_opinions_pop
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:36 pm
Get,
But you have three. More than your “fair share” don’t you think?
getalife
December 5th, 2012
3:37 pm
nero,
Stop leeching off your parents son.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 5th, 2012
3:37 pm
“Obama Warns GOP Against Debt Ceiling Fight: ‘I Will Not Play That Gam’ ”
“Homey D. Clown” don’t play that game !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVcUuTg5oSc
Union
December 5th, 2012
3:38 pm
JamVet
December 5th, 2012
3:35 pm
“Just more money for the CEO…”
of course..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
December 5th, 2012
3:38 pm
Excuse me: “Game”
getalife
December 5th, 2012
3:38 pm
“The rich will pay more taxes” crybaby.
Change.
DownInAlbany
December 5th, 2012
3:39 pm
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
3:11 pm
DownInAlbany
December 5th, 2012
3:09 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
3:04 pm
And, the libs conveniently choose to ignore the fact that Obama called Bush, what was it?, oh yeah, “unpatriotic” for raising the debt ceiling in 2007!
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Wow, and Rush has only been off air for 10 minutes………..
Hey, take a look at the Huffington Post, if you like. Truth be known, HP was defending the Prez, saying “times have changed.” For the record, don’t listen to Rush, don’t watch Fox News, so, your tired criticism falls on deaf ears.
DownInAlbany
December 5th, 2012
3:41 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
3:15 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/05/obama-tax-hikes_n_2245427.html
St Simons - aboriginal BOOTAKOOK 2014
December 5th, 2012
3:41 pm
don’t listen to Rush, don’t watch Fox News…..
hot damn, that never gets old heheh
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:42 pm
Get,
It’s only fair since your generation has been doing it since well before I was born. Stop leeching off your great-grandchildren pops.
getalife
December 5th, 2012
3:44 pm
Warren on the banking committee is a good move.
Not playing the debt limit game is another good move.
The gop are lost.
moonbat betty
December 5th, 2012
3:44 pm
Nero,
You sound like a broken record.
Your schtich is beyond lame now.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
3:46 pm
Well Albany, if you read the entire article, you already had the statement of the White House regarding the statement. After Flip Flop Mitt, do you really think it matters if you want to disagree with the White House position? You are unwilling to accept any explanation that does not fit your POV.
skipper
December 5th, 2012
3:49 pm
If I can get all the $ back I pumped into all these programs…..I’d love it! Until then (ha-ha) I do NOT want the medicare age raised! I have paid into S.Security all my life….it needs to be there! Funny…the folks that put the sh*t there from the get-go are the ones who are gonna be left out in the cold! I paid into it all for many years….no freebies for me. Nobody owes me a thing…but I. along with many realize: there is a difference between “entitlement” programs for those who cannot or will not “do”, if I may, and those who played by the rules, faithfully spent a lifetime paying in, and want only what has been earned!
Nero
December 5th, 2012
3:50 pm
All hail moonbat betty! Arbiter of all that is lame. Snicker..:)
indigo
December 5th, 2012
3:51 pm
Boehner and his cronies decided sometime ago to put all their election and re-election eggs in one Big Business basket,so to speak. Now, finding himself in an impossible situation, he’s desperately playing both sides in a last ditch effort to save his political skin. Brutal Big Business sponsors will tolerate NO deviating from the no taxes on the rich stance. So, in all likelihood, Boehner is living on borrowed political time.
Nothing good for the Republicans will come from this. And, if we all go over the cliff, nothing good will come for either Party or middle-class and poor Americans.
Only the(surpirse)rich will come out essentially unaffected.
DebbieDoRight -- A Do Right Woman
December 5th, 2012
3:52 pm
Everyone………..
Stop Feeding The Troll………
If you keep playing with that thing you’ll go blind…………..
moonbat betty
December 5th, 2012
3:52 pm
Why thank you, Nero.
Speaking of lame, are you one of these Jugglo kids, who think they know everything, but are really clowns?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odeXKQ_E8iU
USA Patriot
December 5th, 2012
3:53 pm
Maxine Waters as the leading Dem on the House Financial Services Committee?? Talk about putting the wolf in the hen house! Yikes!
stands for decibels
December 5th, 2012
3:54 pm
If I can get all the $ back I pumped into all these programs…..I’d love it!
you might, you might not. That’s the way insurance works.
But otherwise, point taken. You have a great deal of company. (linking again…)
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2012/11/28/americans-overwhelming-oppose-raising-the-medicare-retirement-age/
DownInAlbany
December 5th, 2012
3:57 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
3:46 pm
Well Albany, if you read the entire article, you already had the statement of the White House regarding the statement. After Flip Flop Mitt, do you really think it matters if you want to disagree with the White House position? You are unwilling to accept any explanation that does not fit your POV.
As opposed to gulping down everything that comes out of the WH with a smile on your face?
Union
December 5th, 2012
3:58 pm
funny thing.. it would be a win win for obama if we didnt reach an agreement and had our little fiscal cliff issue..
DownInAlbany
December 5th, 2012
4:00 pm
Keep up the Good Fight: No comment on Bush being “unpatriotic?” Come on, don’t avoid the question because if he was then, Obama is now!
skipper
December 5th, 2012
4:00 pm
stands for decibels:
Thanks for the link……it says it all!
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
4:00 pm
skipper
Be careful as talking like that on this blog will get you labeled as a “Librul”.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
4:01 pm
Nope Albany, I reviewed the facts and made my own decision as to veracity of the claims…. Sorry you can’t understand that unless Fox and Rush tell you what to do.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
4:02 pm
Betty,
Nah, Faygo is too ghetto for my tastes. Plus I try to not emulate anything that comes from Detroit. More for you sweet cheeks.
indigo
December 5th, 2012
4:03 pm
the cat
Nero is still in elementary school. He is being homeschooled by rich parents who don’t give a flying f*ck about anyone but themselves.
Ken
December 5th, 2012
4:04 pm
Billions in taxes, trillions in debt. Simple math . There is no end game.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
4:05 pm
indigo,
I love you too!
JamVet
December 5th, 2012
4:06 pm
…it would be a win win for obama if we didnt reach an agreement and had our little fiscal cliff issue..
Yep, I believe you are correct; the jig is up.
Many more Americans than not, now believe that the GOP is the worst of the two evil options regarding any and all matters fiscal.
The consequences of thirty years of trickle down insanity…
DownInAlbany
December 5th, 2012
4:06 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
4:01 pm
Nope Albany, I reviewed the facts and made my own decision as to veracity of the claims…. Sorry you can’t understand that unless Fox and Rush tell you what to do.
The facts, as reported by MSNBC? Chris Matthews or Al Sharpton?
JamVet
December 5th, 2012
4:07 pm
Bush was not unpatriotic. He was just staggeringly incompetent…
DebbieDoRight -- A Do Right Woman
December 5th, 2012
4:07 pm
What are you talking about Jam? Trickle down worked!!! Didn’t you feel that golden stream of wealth dripping on you?
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 5th, 2012
4:10 pm
Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
—Mark Twain
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
4:12 pm
For the record, don’t listen to Rush, don’t watch Fox News, so, your tired criticism falls on deaf ears.
We know, thye follow YOU around all day so they know what the talking points are. You whip Chuck Norris’s ass too I suppose……….
Nero
December 5th, 2012
4:12 pm
No Deborah, your catheter slipped out again.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
4:13 pm
Albany, again you failed to post the context about the unpatriotic. It was indeed wrong to spend on 2 wars and give tax cuts at the same time and to put the entire amount on the “credit card”. I won’t get into the “unpatriotic” nonsense. But really if you want to claim now that Obama was unpatriotic, then I guess you have to concede he was right on Bush (but you still support Bush like the silly goose you are). Of course there in another distinction, Obama was forced to spend to save the economy after Bush destroyed it, Bush did not have fight the Iraq war.
Fly-On-The-Wall
December 5th, 2012
4:13 pm
Debbie – that was a good one!
DownInAlbany
December 5th, 2012
4:15 pm
No takers on the “unpatriotic” label, except for Jam’s usual deflections. But, then again, if Bush was incompetent, what does that make Obama? Just wondering…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
4:16 pm
well Albany, what I don’t do is listen to a political arm of the GOP that lies constantly. You’re really looking foolish.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
4:16 pm
“…force to spend to save the economy…” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I think a little pee just came out!
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 5th, 2012
4:17 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I think a little pee just came out!
They make diapers for that.
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
4:18 pm
You have pklenty of takers. You just refuse the answers to your stupid
lies “questions.”Get over it, your bad talk radio FOXBOTS lies were soundly rejected by the American people. Get new lies and quit recycling the old ones. It’s boring as well as false.