A little sympathy for Boehner? OK, but just a little
You have to feel a least a little sorry for John Boehner.
In fact, I wouldn’t blame the speaker of the House for wondering what terrible thing he did in some previous life to deserve being handed this budget mess. He finds himself under siege not just by his opponents, which is to be expected, but by his supposed friends as well.
And despite what some of those “friends” would like to believe, this is a battle that Boehner cannot fight and win, and he knows it. The issues at stake in the budget standoff are essentially the same issues fought out during the presidential campaign, and as speaker, Boehner has neither the pulpit nor the firepower to win against Obama where Mitt Romney failed.
That was confirmed by a new poll released Tuesday in which just 27 percent of Americans said they would blame President Obama if budget negotiations fail and the country is forced off the so-called fiscal cliff. Almost twice as many — 53 percent — would blame congressional Republicans. And yes, while Boehner deserves some of the blame for that situation, it is shared by the entire Republican Party. For years, they have celebrated themselves as unbending and uncompromising, making stubborn intransigence a point of party pride.
So they have no right to be dismayed that that’s how the American public has come to see them.
In a belated effort to try to dispel that image, Boehner proposed a budget package Monday that included $800 billion in increased taxes, a step that he and his fellow Republicans had long insisted they would never take. If you overlook the fact that the math doesn’t work — it is impossible to raise the $800 billion in promised revenue through the tax changes offered by Boehner — the proposal does represents a welcome step toward reality.
And for taking that step, Boehner has of course been hammered by those who are supposedly on his side. Sen. Jim DeMint, a South Carolina Republican, said that “Speaker Boehner’s $800 billion tax hike will destroy American jobs and allow politicians in Washington to spend even more, while not reducing our $16 trillion debt by a single penny.” The conservative Heritage Foundation followed suit, calling the Boehner plan “little more than categorical, pre-emptive capitulation.”
And of course, the proposal that conservatives saw as “capitulation” was rejected by Obama as far short of what will be needed in a final deal. The president noted that he ran for re-election on a promise to end the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest of Americans, and he repeated his insistence that it be included as part of any final package.
Clearly, after years of GOP obstruction, Obama isn’t in the mood to let Boehner off lightly.
In his package, Boehner did make at least two proposals that ought to be seriously considered:
— The speaker advocated a slight change in how future cost-of-living adjustments are made to Social Security benefits, a reform that would affect mainly Social Security recipients who have other sources of income. It’s a change that Obama tentatively agreed to more than a year ago, before negotiations failed. Including it in the final deal would give Boehner political cover as an entitlement reform and would also be good fiscal policy.
— Boehner also proposed saving money by delaying Medicare eligibility from age 65 to age 67. It’s a popular proposal among Republicans, who justify it by pointing out that people are now living longer. However, that isn’t true across the board. Among upper-income, presumably white-collar Americans, the average lifespan of a 60-year-old male has indeed increased by more than six years since 1972. But among lower-income males, it increased by only two years. For those in more physically demanding, lower-income jobs, delaying Medicare coverage would be a real hardship.
Given that increasing lifespan differential, however, it would be perfectly reasonable to charge wealthier Americans slightly higher monthly Medicare premiums, as Boehner proposes. Because that would be scored as an entitlement cut, it would also help Boehner fend off those in his own party who are going to be very unhappy with the deal that is eventually reached.
That too is something Obama has to keep in mind.
– Jay Bookman
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Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
1:05 pm
Cheesy, it was rather shameful from the GOP…but they have no shame and no low they will not find.
Recon 0311 2533
December 5th, 2012
1:05 pm
A recent Forbes study should be an eye opener. Forbes identifies 11 states that they refer to as being in the “death spiral”. Meaning they have more people living off pensions, government pensions government employment and other forms of government assistance than they have working in the private sector. 7 of those 11 states are blue states and were identified as Maine, New York, Ohio, Illinois, New Mexico, California and Hawaii. Government benefit programs such as pensions they can’t afford and are therefore unsustainable is taking them down the road to financial collapse. Other states are probably not that far behind as the private sector workforce continues to shrink. These states and the others to follow will probably be seeking federal government bailouts to stay afloat. We’ve recently heard a Detroit council member asking Obama for a bailout.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
1:05 pm
The exploitation crap again coupled with a dose of class warfare.
It’s much more believable that that invisible hand job crap you’re peddling.
As to Mexicans, you’re damn right they’re being exploited. Just because you receive some renumeration doesn’t negate that fact. It isn’t a matter of whether you let yourself be exploited or not, but since you don’t have to worry about that, you obviously wouldn’t know. That captain of your destiny crap is more fantasy than Mickey Mouse.
Cheesy Grits is gone but not forgotten
December 5th, 2012
1:05 pm
They can go pretty low. Heck I’ll bet that many of them don’t think of themselves as citizens of this country anymore given the number of them that want to secede.
I wish they would secede or leave. Addition by subtraction
Don Abernethy
December 5th, 2012
1:06 pm
Boehner needs to be fired as House Speaker. He is not conservative enough. The Tea Party should take the leadership in the House.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
1:07 pm
Nobody cares about crybaby Boehner except Bookman and his jolly band of suck-ups. We’re going off the Cliff and all the leeches will scream bloody murder. Everybody will eventually adjust to the tax increases and spending cuts. Two years from now it will be part of the new normal. The only thing that will matter to the voters is whether the economy is doing better or is still in the crapper. The Boomers and the other leech classes will still cry about how it’s unfair they had to give up their hard earned benefits. Same s***, different day.
Steve
December 5th, 2012
1:07 pm
Recon, what about all the red states that live off most of the blue states’ moneys federal handouts? Perhaps if we solved that problem, the blue states could afford to support their people.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
1:09 pm
Joe mama,
I’ll look it up when i get home tonight if i have time. It’s not really feasible on a phone and I’ve got to head to an Appt anyway. My recollection is that the article and or the libs on here were calling Walmart and via it’s employees the nations biggest welfare recipient. Curiously they never mentioned the huge choline of federal, state, and local taxes Walmart and it’s employees pay. But then i guess that wouldn’t fit the lib narrative.
Jefferson
December 5th, 2012
1:09 pm
Reb would belive anything, that story is probably a lie, if not turn them in for fraud. But everything on facebook is true….
jconservative
December 5th, 2012
1:10 pm
CJ at 12:00 pm
I know.
But on 1/1/2011 everyone knew the day of reckoning was coming on tax increases. Both sides decided to wait on the election. We had the election. And taxes are increasing 1/1/2013 as scheduled. Taxes are increasing because Congress voted for a tax increase effective 1/1/2013. Obama signed the bill into law. This is a deal both sides wanted. Spin no longer works.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
1:10 pm
choline? shoulda been chunk.
moonbat betty
December 5th, 2012
1:11 pm
getalife,
Can I be your butler when the liberals take ova da vworld?
Georgia
December 5th, 2012
1:11 pm
Seriously. There is a cliff coming, but it’s not a drop off, it’s a climbing cliff. Inflation. Jim Cramer’s face registered real fear as he spoke about inflation today. Ruinous inflation. Cramer’s face looked like the emoticon of a homeless guy getting obviously brand new boots. If we do get a deal, it will be inflationary. Stocks should soar a thousand points. If we don’t get a deal then the consequence will be worse than inflation. No money is worse than inflated prices. Clinton caved to Boehner-style hard lining in the nineties and the GOP eliminated all financial oversight, which is what caused 2008, which brought us so close to financial collapse that Pelosi voted against the bailout before she voted for it. What our leaders learned from 2008 was that unbridled capitalism will implode taking everything with it. The bank’s WMD: Cold Cash and Credit Fusion bomb. (low yield). Oh, it’ll destroy the economy, but it leaves Nancy Pelosi’s face intact.
stands for decibels
December 5th, 2012
1:11 pm
that story is probably a lie
probably?
getalife
December 5th, 2012
1:12 pm
The is a gop created fake crisis and it is the gop’s problem.
The dems should not help them. Period.
Recon 0311 2533
December 5th, 2012
1:12 pm
Steve, I didn’t mention the 4 red states in the 11 Forbes identified, Kentucky, South Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi. Pretty small states though in comparison to the blue states of New York, Ohio, Illinois and California.
DannyX
December 5th, 2012
1:13 pm
Since the election that “Boom” is more like a…
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getalife
December 5th, 2012
1:13 pm
moonbat,
Make me a ham sammich.
Now.
alex
December 5th, 2012
1:14 pm
No pardon needed, you haen’t given ANY specifics, so your NOT believable. ACA with subsidies in states with medicaid expansion may well accomplish a lot for this issue, but it is a complicated battle that may continue for years (see editorial in New England J. of Med this week). I thought you might have insight , but your rantings are just that, unsubstantiated disagreements…YOU can do better…
Madmax
December 5th, 2012
1:14 pm
That too is something Obama has to keep in mind.
He is playing this out like Obamacare. We will do it BHO’s way and the hell with any idea of compromise. I don’t want revenue I want the rate on the evil 2% raised so I can tell everyone I made good on my campaign promise of revenge. Oh spending, trust me, we’ll do that later……right, and I have a bridge to sell you.
Funny that Jay doesn’t point out that BHO’s proposal does not mathmatically work either. Funny Jay doesn’t mention that all BHO does is raise a little more cash which he wants to spend (and then some) immediately and does nothing to address deficit reduction, yet those here seem to feel he unworthy of criticism.
The more I see and hear of BHO, the more I think he and the current Egyptian President are twins, separated at birth.
Steve
December 5th, 2012
1:15 pm
Getalife, I completely agree. And the American public is not polling with the GOP on any of this crap, and Congress still have a 12% approval rating and I’m sure that will continue to drop.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
1:16 pm
JHM, interesting how some claim that taxes “paid” by employees count when you look at the employer, but if that same employee ends up paying no federal income taxes because they do not earn sufficient amounts, that somehow the employee is the freeloader and no good.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
1:16 pm
Taxes are increasing because Congress voted for a tax increase effective 1/1/2013. Obama signed the bill into law. This is a deal both sides wanted.
Yep!!!!
Georgia
December 5th, 2012
1:17 pm
Send Kerry ‘cross to Murci…….
RAMZAD
December 5th, 2012
1:18 pm
What Boehner and the GOP do not recognize is that in any war the high ground can change hands several times. It is the strategic preparations that you make while you have the high ground that set you up to win or lose the war.
Republicans made the fatal mistake of believing that they could be intransigent and reptilian forever. From the Party of “No” to running over to the White House bearing gifts and supplication.
This is proof that the American people still have the handle and Republicans are holding the blade. Only the dust and the rust of the current Republican Party will satisfy me.
Steve
December 5th, 2012
1:18 pm
Flipped Fox News on at the treadmill today. There was closet case Rick Perry being interviewed, with him claiming that all they have to do is go after the wealthier Hispanics and the GOP would have their vote, as these people would be wondering where all their money was going via taxes. (as if taxes haven’t been lowered to the lowest point in 30 years). They he talked about stressing Christian family values…and this from a guy who cheats on his wife with men, which is well known in Texas.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
1:19 pm
Funny that Jay doesn’t point out that BHO’s proposal does not mathmatically work either. Funny Jay doesn’t mention that all BHO does is raise a little more cash which he wants to spend (and then some) immediately and does nothing to address deficit reduction, yet those here seem to feel he unworthy of criticism.
Funny that Madmax can’t own up to the fact that the Republicans are all crying about debt and deficit, yet their own policies have been one of the biggest contributing factors to the debt and deficit. Funny that Madmax doesn’t acknowledge that the “party of fiscal responsibility” put forth a garbage plan that does nothing to addresse the debt or the deficit.
JohnnyReb
December 5th, 2012
1:20 pm
Several of you regulars on here have serious chips on your shoulders. Maybe that chip has something to do with your attitudes on how someone elses money is used by the government.
No where in my post on the California woman on disability was her race or nationality stated.
You guys have the chip and automatically assume everything is about race. You’re pathetic.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 5th, 2012
1:20 pm
Doom — “My recollection is that the article and or the libs on here were calling Walmart and via it’s employees the nations biggest welfare recipient. Curiously they never mentioned the huge choline of federal, state, and local taxes Walmart and it’s employees pay. But then i guess that wouldn’t fit the lib narrative.”
I remember you bringing up the taxes, and I think that’s a very fair point. At the same time, if an employer is routinely paying employees so little that they have to avail themselves of public assistance, then don’t you think we as taxpayers should have something to say about that? I’m not suggesting that every Wally World shelf stocker should get twenty bucks an hour plus full medical/dental/optical coverage, but just look at Costco. They’re MUCH more generous with their employee benefits and it doesn’t seem to be hurting them at all.
Plus, Costco employees seem to give a s**t, whereas Wally World employees — from what I’ve seen — are just marking time until they punch out for the day.
Steve
December 5th, 2012
1:20 pm
Madmax – I seem to remember George Bush being the “Decider” which was very ok with all of you with your W stickers on your cars. Why the change of heart?
Recon 0311 2533
December 5th, 2012
1:21 pm
“and this from a guy who cheats on his wife with men, which is well known in Texas.”
Steve, never heard that one before and have a lot of friends in Texas. Where did you dig that up?
Joe Hussein Mama
December 5th, 2012
1:21 pm
M. Betty — “getalife, Can I be your butler when the liberals take ova da vworld?”
My wife and I will have an opening for a couple of footstools. Shall I pencil you in for an interview?
detritusUSA
December 5th, 2012
1:21 pm
Slash the defense department by 25% before you raise the MEDICARE age. Eliminate the cap on the social security tax before you reduce the cola. Simple, problem solved.
Madmax
December 5th, 2012
1:21 pm
Bro – enjoy yor koolaid. It had more substance than your mesiah’s. Nothing but air but it has to be good because HE spoke it. right
oops
December 5th, 2012
1:22 pm
“The dems should not help them. Period.”
Getalife likes the cliff.
Madmax
December 5th, 2012
1:23 pm
Steve – I was no fan of Bush and never had a W sticker on my car. I’m looking for some leadership from the WH and all we get is hot air.
JohnnyReb
December 5th, 2012
1:23 pm
So Steve, you have proof that Perry is a closet homesexual? No you don’t. If you did, you would have sold it to some pop-culture show.
But just to give you the benefit of the doubt, show it to us here. Evidence or something close enough to the truth that it interjects doubt.
Something tells me we will be waiting forever.
Steve
December 5th, 2012
1:24 pm
Recon – there are many links, but here’s a good one: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/06/would_rumors_about_his_marriag.html
Steve
December 5th, 2012
1:25 pm
Lindsey Graham, the former governor from Florida…can’t remember his name. Two other well known closeted Republicans that come to mind.
moonbat betty
December 5th, 2012
1:26 pm
Sure, JHM,
I can help pull your wife’s foot out of your rear end everyday.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 5th, 2012
1:27 pm
M. Betty — “Sure, JHM, I can help pull your wife’s foot out of your rear end everyday.”
She’s not that tall.
JohnnyReb
December 5th, 2012
1:27 pm
Let’s see Steve – the article was before Perry entered the primaries, was from Politico (throw up), but nothing was ever heard during the primaries.
Obviously, your proof is still at zero.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 5th, 2012
1:29 pm
J. Reb — “Obviously, your proof is still at zero.”
Kinda like that Orly Taitz woman.
Recon 0311 2533
December 5th, 2012
1:29 pm
Steve, Not particularly creditable sources just a lot of unconfirmed rumor. If any of was true it would have been brought out by creditable sources during his run for the Republican nomination.
alex
December 5th, 2012
1:30 pm
@ detritus, how much will that save per year, ?
joe
December 5th, 2012
1:31 pm
A little sympathy for Dems and the loony libs who support them, who are heck bent on spending us into Greece…NONE!!! You all are such takers that you don’t care what happens to the country you live in.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
1:31 pm
steve, unconfirmed rumors from not particularly creditable sources are only acceptable if you are talking Benghazi, birth certificates, fast and furious, and ODS issues
Nero
December 5th, 2012
1:31 pm
Slash all spending and raise he Medicare age. Cut COLAs to the bare minimum and reduce benefits. Cut DoD and make retirees and veterans pay a larger portion of their healthcare.
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
1:32 pm
STUPID LIBERAL
December 5th, 2012
11:23 am
What are you going to do with your smaller paychecks beginning Jan. 1st?
++++++++++++++++++++++
Buy smaller beers.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
1:33 pm
Madmax
Obviously, you’re the one on here spitting rhetoric, so who’s really believing the hype? I would tell you to Find Other Avenues of Deflection in regards to that koolaid quip. I don’t find that funny at all, given how people lost family members. Keep cheerleading for that failure of a party all you wish. I’m not one to stop you.
As for my Messiah, I was brought up a Christian, and therefore there is only one Messiah. Maybe you should think twice about using God’s name in vain. I hope God shows mercy on your soul for that, because if it were my decision, I wouldn’t.
JamVet
December 5th, 2012
1:33 pm
Rick “Global cooling” Perry digs guys?
(I got spurs that jingle, jangle, jingle…)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ac5AVosug
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
1:35 pm
Nero
December 5th, 2012
1:31 pm
Slash all spending and raise he Medicare age. Cut COLAs to the bare minimum and reduce benefits. Cut DoD and make retirees and veterans pay a larger portion of their healthcare.
+++++++++++++++++
hell yeah!!!!!!!! Especially those vets that were stupid, didn’t duck, and got all blowed up. The ingrates. First we let them go get all blowed up for us and NOW they want us to pay for their care.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
1:35 pm
Bro,
Hand job crap that I’m peddling? You blowing a gasket there bro?
So Messicans are exploited? Sez who? You? So they risk death to come over here and be “exploited”? And in being exploited they support not only themselves but families back home. who the hell are you to determine who is and isn’t exploited? are u the exploitation police?
As for being in charge of your life and your destiny i can’t help you if you let others determine your lot in life. not my problem and if you’re ticked off that others determine their own outcomes in life then you’ll just have to get over it.
Fly-On-The-Wall
December 5th, 2012
1:36 pm
Rick did to seem to show a strong interest in that bottle of maple syrup.
DannyX
December 5th, 2012
1:37 pm
Hmmmmm, Perry has said he is going to make a big announcement in July.
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
1:39 pm
DannyX
December 5th, 2012
1:37 pm
Hmmmmm, Perry has said he is going to make a big announcement in July.
++++++++++++++++++++
Here’s a video to help him with his announcement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oT8f5k1W8k
Sklipch
December 5th, 2012
1:40 pm
Same Obama as before election. The guy doesn’t understand economics. All this time spent to raise taxes on the 2%, but little discussion on how to really, seriously tackle the 16+trillion dollar debt. He can confiscate all the money the 2% make and it won’t solve the problem. I am not part of the 2%, but let’s get serious. If democrats don’t want to change anything than do the math and tell the taxpayers how much we have to increase social security, medicare and income taxes to pay for what they want.
Steve
December 5th, 2012
1:43 pm
Sorry that this is off topic, but the rumors are there about Perry. and like another poster said, if one can claim Obama to be a Muslim from Kenya with conviction, one can easily root out the closet cases as people talk. There are MANY in the Repiglican party.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
1:43 pm
Doom: who the hell are you to determine who is and isn’t exploited? are u the exploitation police?
Ask yourself that question before you try to check me. Are you doing any different than me? Who in the hell are you to determine who is and isn’t exploited? Why don’t you take your own advice?
As for being in charge of your life and your destiny i can’t help you if you let others determine your lot in life.
And whenever I claim as such, then you can address that. However, don’t put words in my mouth, ok? I don’t do that to you, even though that would probably make your crap more believable, but you speak for yourself, and don’t attempt to speak for me. K?
Nero
December 5th, 2012
1:45 pm
Fred,
Nobody cares if you were a veteran or not anymore. Bad things happen to good people. They’re patriotic. I’m sure they won’t mind their country asking a little bit more from them. Plenty of previous generations of soldiers came home from war without the same wasteful benefits. The current batch is no different. They’ll make due.
GT
December 5th, 2012
1:46 pm
Representatives of the southern red states have a different agenda than the rest of this nation. Artificial economies have replaced the industry that left. South Carolina lost the textile business and in its stead have several federal prison facilities and other random operations subsidized by our government, Strom Thurmond’s legacy. This state and other southern states bargain the jobs for votes and power. Now you have two lines of the Republican Party, the one whose course is predestined to the original jobs for votes trade and the one trying to redirect the Republican Party before it self destructs.
Bush in his tour of the White House with the soon to be president Obama spoke of his party. He told O not all your enemies come from the opposition party. To the south the region has always been more important than the nation. Education was a luxury and also a sure way to be defeated in a general election. Religion is a control mechanism, and you work for the politician not him or very few times her for you. Many southerners have an equivalent lobotomy where poverty not their own making, malnutrition and ignorance has produce this O.J. Simpson jury view of the world that there is a conspiracy under every rock. This makes it almost too easy for carpet baggies like Newt to come in and have his way.
This is the traffic Boehner has to conduct.
Steve
December 5th, 2012
1:46 pm
sklipch, spending cuts are on the table with the Dems. And we have to start somewhere. You can’t cut the debt in one day, or you collapse the economy. Come on, man, this is common sense.
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
1:48 pm
Nero: Not only do I not get Gov’t help especially from the VA, but I would cut off my own balls with a dull knife before I would ever set foot in one. you need to get over yourself.
but you also need to quit trying to screw those who lost limbs and health in service to their Country. I know that as a Republican the word honor to you means, “jump on ‘er and stay on ‘er,” but a nation owes a debt of honor to care for those who are wounded in their service.
stands for decibels
December 5th, 2012
1:51 pm
I would tell you to Find Other Avenues of Deflection
oooh ooooh I’m telling Teach.
alex
December 5th, 2012
1:51 pm
i see JAMVET has returned with his fantasies, so much for semiserious conversation, outta here….Wait ’till Jay gives us something to chew on, no not that Jamvet ,……
Steve
December 5th, 2012
1:54 pm
Johnny – if Perry had won the nomination, this would have been brought to light. Trust me.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
1:55 pm
Doom
One last thing, when it comes to being the exploitation police, I’m sure that I have much more experience at detecting exploitation than an insurance salesman does.
http://cbp.gov/xp/cgov/border_security/human_trafficking/stories_info/overview.xml
But, you go ahead and keep on believing in your supposed superiority over everyone else here when you don’t have a damn clue as to what we do in our own personal lives.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
1:56 pm
dB
I’m just not in the mood for suffering fools today, and it seems as though all the fools here want to play tiddlywinks with me for some reason.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
1:56 pm
Fred,
Debt of Honor? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! You read to much Tom Clancy. Same entitlement mentality as the rest of Generation Greed. You are owed nothing. Get over yourself. Stop whining about your service. Nobody cares anymore if you put on a uniform and marched around. As for your balls, I’ll let you handle that.
Boehner Is A Bought and Bossed Man
December 5th, 2012
1:57 pm
@Sklipch
December 5th, 2012
1:40 pm
Same Obama as before election. The guy doesn’t understand economics. All this time spent to raise taxes on the 2%, but little discussion on how to really, seriously tackle the 16+trillion dollar debt. He can confiscate all the money the 2% make and it won’t solve the problem. I am not part of the 2%, but let’s get serious. If democrats don’t want to change anything than do the math and tell the taxpayers how much we have to increase social security, medicare and income taxes to pay for what they want.
================================================
Obama is NOT the SAME. Stay Tuned.
CONS understand ECONOMICS? They got us INTO this mess.
Taxing the RICH is a start. Why are YOU poor people defending the rich?
That is rich……….
YOU can’t have it both ways. You complain about the democrats CHANGING
THINGS and in the same breath YOU say “If democrats don’t want to change
anything.” MAKE UP YOUR MIND.
CONS ARE BOUGHT AND BOSSED.
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
1:58 pm
Bro,
sorry man but you’re the one who made the claim of “exploitation”. If u can’t back up your emotionalism parade crap then I’m not surprised. You lost your credibility when you had to stoop to the level of insulting myself and my profession. Anyway have a great day Mr. exploitation cop.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
2:01 pm
Its always a good day when Brosephus kicks some fool arse.
Well done!
moonbat betty
December 5th, 2012
2:01 pm
I can’t believe Bookman banned db’s favorite acoronym!
What’s up with that?
Are liberals supossed to be polite or something now?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
2:02 pm
You lost your credibility when you had to stoop to the level of insulting myself and my profession
Now that stupidity is just hilarious when you consider the sniveling poster who is making the claim
moonbat betty
December 5th, 2012
2:03 pm
“Its always a good day when Brosephus kicks some fool arse”
Throwing a temper tantrum does not = a BOOM.
Drive By Bumper Sticker
December 5th, 2012
2:03 pm
Boehner Cried
People Lied
The Truth Died…………
Here Lies The Truth — “The Fiscal Cliff Is A Fiscal Curb”.
stands for decibels
December 5th, 2012
2:04 pm
ACA with subsidies in states with medicaid expansion may well accomplish a lot for this issue
alex, what part of “there ISN’T ANY PROBLEM that *needs* ’solving’” don’t you get?
There’s only a problem if we’re stupid enough to raise the freaking eligibility age.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
2:04 pm
Doom
I simply said exploitation. I never said what group. You brought Mexicans into the conversation, not me. Your emotional “Mexicans” crap is the only emotion brought into the conversation. I didn’t insult your profession, as much as I simply tried to point out to you that my profession trains in detecting exploitation of others. If the insurance industry trains you to do that, then my hat’s off to you. I have family members who are in the insurance industry.
Your emotions got the best of you, and as usual, you’re not man enough to own up to it. That’s ok because you already admitted long ago that you come here to be an ass. I expect it from you. Maybe one day you’ll grow up and understand that there are people who have skills and knowledge that you don’t. That doesn’t make you any less a man to own up to that. You have a great day as well.
Drive By Bumper Sticker
December 5th, 2012
2:06 pm
Example Of Republican Math:
20000×2% = Richer Rich People
30/1.25 Million (squared) = Sh##t Out Of Luck People.
Which Are You?
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
2:08 pm
bro,
what the f does exploitation have to do with illegals living and working here in America. you’re talking some crazy shyte about illegals being exploited by Mexican coyotes leading to the border. what in the hell does that have to do with the supposed exploitation of living and working in America. geez. you make about as much damn sense a shark on land. did you take a drink from the idiot fountain this morning? good God the kooks get dumber every day.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
2:09 pm
betty
Care to show where I had a temper tantrum? I’ll tell you the same thing I told Doom. There are people here with knowledge and skillsets that others don’t have. I don’t ridicule anybody here, and I won’t let anybody do that to me. If you want to challenge me as to what I know or don’t know, then be man/lady enough to do so without all the extra crap.
There are some things I can divulge and some things I can’t. If I can find public information on it, then I can share the stuff that I know. If it’s not public knowledge, I’m not gonna lose my job sharing things here that I see at work.
Drive By Bumper Sticker
December 5th, 2012
2:09 pm
Republican Pledge Of Allegiance:
I Pledge Loyalty To Money and all the things it can buy.
Cars, Women, Drag Queens, And All the Mexican Pool Boys i can afford.
In Trickle Down We Trust.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
2:10 pm
Just walk away and let the sequestration happen. It’s all political jockeying now. Just walk away and move on.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
2:12 pm
what the f does exploitation have to do with illegals living and working here in America. you’re talking some crazy shyte about illegals being exploited by Mexican coyotes leading to the border.
How in the hell do you know what I’m talking about? You’re simply A-S-S-U-M-I-N-G that’s what I’m talking about. I gave you a link earlier to see that exploitation goes far beyond some Mexican cutting your grass. Why don’t you go Google Georgia statute 16-6-16 for starters. Georgia has it’s own issues, and it has nothing to do with Mexicans or the land border.
You do realize that there are more ways to be undocumented in the United States besides swimming across the Rio Grande, right? If not, I can’t help you.
moonbat betty
December 5th, 2012
2:14 pm
You seem angry, Bro.
And that’s OK.
You are pretty cool and level headed most of the time.
You just seem a little wound up today is all.
stands for decibels
December 5th, 2012
2:14 pm
I’m just not in the mood for suffering fools today
me neither.
rather than speaking in code, perhaps the next time some guy writes “heck bent on spending us into Greece…” or “government had nothing to do with this amazing success” or suchlike, we could just link to this.
I can’t believe Bookman banned db’s favorite acoronym!
Not to argue for argument’s sake, but I’m pretty sure “THBAEOSATSQ” gets a *lot* more usage in here from yrs truly than that-which-must-not-be-posted.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
December 5th, 2012
2:14 pm
JohnnyReb quotes from a story posted on FB so it must be true because you cannot put it on the internet if it is not true.
Oh and did I mention I am a french model. Bon jour.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
2:15 pm
knowledge and skillsets…snicker
Thulsa Doom
December 5th, 2012
2:17 pm
bro,
that’s right. i did bring in Mexicans. I’m using them as an example because that is the group most people think of when thinking of immigration and this “exploitation crap”. and yeah. you were low down enough to write something about the crap that i peddle. so if that wasn’t a personal attack then what was it? And enough with your effing high and mighty crap about me as if you don’t ever sir up any crap on here. dang hypocrite
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
2:19 pm
betty
Not angry at all, nor am I wound up. I simply refuse to let somebody talk over me when they don’t have a clue as to what they’re talking about. Simple as that.
Why would a surgeon allow a bartender to tell him what his job is? Are you suggesting that I should let Doom tell me what I know and do for a living when he doesn’t appear to have a clue? If that’s what I’m supposed to do, then I’m simply not wired that way.
Nero
December 5th, 2012
2:19 pm
http://youtu.be/q-Rqdgna3Yw
straitroad
December 5th, 2012
2:23 pm
Brosephus, you might need to take a walk and collect yourself….wound a little too tightly today.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
2:24 pm
yeah. you were low down enough to write something about the crap that i peddle. so if that wasn’t a personal attack then what was it?
It was an ego check, which obviously did nothing for you. Contrary to your opinion, you don’t know everything. Exploitation goes beyond people working under the table for cash. How would you like it if someone talked your daughter into going to another country and then forcing her into prostitution? You have a way of letting your ego and hubris overload your common sense.
Yeah, I took a cheap shot at you, and when you come at me wrong again, I will do it again. When you decide to approach me and converse with me as a man, I’ll return the favor. As long as you attempt to talk down to me, curse at me, or anything else that has the appearance of attempting to belittle me, I will take every cheap shot at you that I can just to let you know that you are not the only one here that can belittle someone.
It’s as simple as that. Act as a man and you get treated as a man. Come at me with that crazy and dumb stuff, and you’ll get it right back.
Erwin's cat
December 5th, 2012
2:25 pm
Bro I’m not one to tell ya what to do….but, don’t let them tell ya what to do
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 5th, 2012
2:26 pm
…. Doomy can be quite a blog jackass sometimes. . OK maybe many times…
It’s always HeeHaw time when Doom posts.
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
2:29 pm
you might need to take a walk and collect yourself….wound a little too tightly today.
Answer this for me, bro…
Why is it that I’m wound up tight, yet Doom started the entire thing with his smart assed comments @ 12:04 and 12:05? Is it because y’all think that I’m what y’all consider “liberal” and won’t give you back the same crap you try to give me? I’m not wound up at all. I’m acutally laughing my ass off at y’all that think I’m wound up because ain’t none of y’all said a thing to or about Doom’s four-letter tirades.
oops
December 5th, 2012
2:29 pm
boomers
http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Ga-town-stunned-after-woman-killed-at-gas-station-4092744.php
Brosephus™
December 5th, 2012
2:29 pm
EC
Fred ™
December 5th, 2012
2:32 pm
RIP DAVE BRUBECK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9aG3wUrfrE
oops
December 5th, 2012
2:33 pm
Brubeck was a con