President Petraeus? Fox News sure liked the ring of it
Somehow — and that “somehow” is a no doubt fascinating story in its own right — Bob Woodward at The Washington Post has obtained a digital recording of a long, detailed conversation between Fox News correspondent KT McFarland and then-General David Petraeus in the spring of 2011 in Afghanistan during which McFarland:
A.) Urges Petraeus to run for president against Barack Obama;
Roger Ailes
B.) Tells Petraeus that she was instructed to carry that message to Petraeus by Fox News President Roger Ailes and its owner, Rupert Murdoch;
C.) Tells Petraeus that Fox would fully back his presidential campaign, and by fully back she means:
D.) Murdoch would finance the campaign. Ailes would leave Fox to run the campaign. And Fox News itself would become the house organ of the campaign. As McFarland puts it point blank, “The big boss is bankrolling it. Roger’s going to run it. And the rest of us are going to be your in-house.”
Throughout the conversation, Petraeus makes it clear repeatedly that he has no intention of running for president, and that was always my sense of him as well. He understood why others might want to project that future upon him, but he himself never gave the slightest public indication of interest in that career path.
I did have the benefit of an hour-long, one-on-one discussion with Petraeus in his office in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, several months before he became famous, and certainly long before any discussion of the presidency would have been germane. We talked instead about Iraq, counter-insurgency and military-media relations. The impression I got from that conversation, from my research and from following his subsequent career path was that Petraeus was of course a very good “political general.” He knew how to get what he wanted from the media, Congress and the bureaucracy. But he also had an infantryman’s disdain for issues such as abortion, tax rates, gun control and health-care reform, not to mention the fundraising and campaign-trail compromising that would be required. They held no interest for him. So his side of the conversation was no surprise.
On the other hand, the extent of the Fox involvement in attempting to woo Petraeus into the political world is pretty startling even to those of us who already see Fox as a blatantly political implement. And while I seriously doubt that Ailes would have actually left Fox to help Petraeus — he would have been more useful to the general/politician by staying where he is — the depth of the promised commitment is pretty clear.
At one point, in fact, McFarland explains why her bosses back home are so insistent on a Petraeus candidacy:
“Well, but . . . and here’s the thinking: that they’re nervous about. . . . They feel that Obama had this mandate. And the mandate — in his own mind. Obama wanted to do Obamacare. . . . He wanted to do environment, which is basically controlling all aspects of the economy. And education, which is the future. So he pushed for Obamacare. He got that done. They didn’t anticipate 2010 results. But he now is going to lie low and be very centrist so that they win in ’12 and they get the other two. Now, what they need — and this is not from the chiefs, this is from political people — and what they need to cement it so that it doesn’t get reversed is a third term. And that means 2016, they need to win, the Democrats need to win, and they need to win with their guy. Their kind of guy. So that then you’d have the stuff as locked in place for a generation. Nobody can come in like Reagan came in and reverse.”
Petraeus was to be the means by which that danger could be averted, which says something about how much they fear Obama and also how little faith they have in the Republican Party to produce winning candidates on its own. They saw him as a potential savior; he had no interest in being cast in that role.
Ailes, by the way, downplayed the story to the Post, as well as McFarland’s role as a messenger.
“It sounds like she thought she was on a secret mission in the Reagan administration. . . . She was way out of line. . . . It’s someone’s fantasy to make me a kingmaker. It’s not my job.”
Well, at least it shouldn’t be.
UPDATE: It’s also relevant to note how neatly this behavior dovetails with Murdoch’s very-cozy relationships with top politicians in Great Britain, where he reportedly tried to act as a kingmaker with prime ministers dating back to the time of John Major, if not earlier.
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USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
10:13 am
“Your democratic administration used taxpayer dollars to investigate his sex life.”
mmmm … no, an investigation into e-mail harassment LEAD to his sex life.
not the other way around.
Oscar
December 4th, 2012
10:14 am
I don’t have any problem with people using their money any way they want to. That seems to be the question here. Just as long as there are people who can expose what they have done, or wanted to do.
The way they use it just sometimes smells when exposed.
Brosephus™
December 4th, 2012
10:14 am
Jay @ 8:50
Ok, gotcha. When I tabbed over to the WaPo @ 8:39, it was on the home page and it was the 2nd most popular story. Now, I’m listening to CNN talk about it on air including playing some of the audio. Looks like you got things stirred up.
Fred ™
December 4th, 2012
10:14 am
alex
December 4th, 2012
10:11 am
@ Fred your hopeless, cannot be rational, angry and for what, bad job, bad life–try harder , mabye bad luck- wish I could help you , but you’ll have to help yourself…So YOU must listen to FOX as you suggest I parrot their words, ridiculous and inconsistent..move on read ….
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Can you translate that mess into English that literate people can read please?
Fred ™
December 4th, 2012
10:16 am
DD
December 4th, 2012
10:12 am
It’s to bad. A bag of rocks would be better than Broke Obambi.
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Shame the Republicans lacked even a bag of rocks then isn’t it? How does it feel to be a member of a party that is dumber than a bag of rocks? What does that say about you and your intelligence?
TiredOfIt
December 4th, 2012
10:16 am
FOX is the only big boy with even a hint of credibility. In the nursing homes, maybe.
Tundra Dude
December 4th, 2012
10:17 am
Redneck wrote:
Give him credit for the affair but otherwise he’s as dull as dishwater.
Maybe not. He had a previous biographer from USNews-WR.
After the book/interviews, she went to work for him at CentCom.
Don’t know about any hanky-panky, but, it seems, he favors female biographers.
Oscar
December 4th, 2012
10:18 am
Fred – word salad
Fred ™
December 4th, 2012
10:18 am
Here is an example of the Republican Party these days……..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dtXFThyr764
Oscar
December 4th, 2012
10:19 am
First, Elmer Fudd. Now, a bag of rocks. What’s next.
Dirty Dawg
December 4th, 2012
10:19 am
If there is a God, and if he/she cares anything about the USA, one way or another both Ailes and Murdoch will be dead before the next Presidential election….oh yeah, and Petraeus’ wife will have divorced him.
N-GA (on the winning side 2 federal elections in a row!)
December 4th, 2012
10:20 am
Every time I drop in and read Jay’s blog I have to laugh at all the cons whining, knowing that they will be whining IMPOTENTLY for at least four more years.
So whenever I need a good laugh………
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
10:20 am
“If there is a God, and if he/she cares anything about the USA, one way or another both Ailes and Murdoch will be dead before the next Presidential election”
um. that’s a bit harsh.
Fred ™
December 4th, 2012
10:21 am
Dirty Dawg
December 4th, 2012
10:19 am
If there is a God, and if he/she cares anything about the USA, one way or another both Ailes and Murdoch will be dead before the next Presidential election….oh yeah, and Petraeus’ wife will have divorced him.
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And Mark Richt will leave UGA……….
stands for decibels
December 4th, 2012
10:22 am
That’s why Fox had to come along and rectify the imbalance.
Exactly. That is the genius of Fox News and its “fair and balanced” assertions.
Fox news is, I believe, simply “reporting” the “news” in as grotesquely biased manner as hard-righties IMAGINE that the corporate media did.
That’s where the “balance” comes in.
MANGLER
December 4th, 2012
10:23 am
This guy had sex with someone. oooooh. That’s all the dirt on him. He has sex. oooooh.
He didn’t lie to the world and invade 2 countries under false pretenses while giving his former employer all the no-bid rebuilding contracts and in the process essentially crash the worlds economies and directly cause over 100,000 deaths and counting. No, we’re not all pissed to high hell over that, but this man who has dedicated his life to serving his Country (meaning all of us) had sex. ooooh.
RDl
December 4th, 2012
10:23 am
Fred: Well buddy, you blew that one. I Corps 1969-70. I hunted and actually shot competitively before my little tour in SE Asia and haven’t fired a weapon in the 42 years that followed. In addition, my father spent 32 years in the service, and wife’s father spent 26. My point was, and is, that generalizations are generally wrong, and I was surprised to see Jay make one like that.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2012
10:23 am
It will interesting to see how long Fox waits until they hire Petreaus as a news analyst.
The over/under in Vegas is 3 months.
flagboy?
December 4th, 2012
10:23 am
Is the story on CNN yet?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
10:24 am
” The over/under in Vegas is 3 months.”
maybe he can do a show with Ollie North.
Fred ™
December 4th, 2012
10:25 am
RDl
December 4th, 2012
10:23 am
Fred: Well buddy, you blew that one. I Corps 1969-70. I hunted and actually shot competitively before my little tour in SE Asia and haven’t fired a weapon in the 42 years that followed. In addition, my father spent 32 years in the service, and wife’s father spent 26. My point was, and is, that generalizations are generally wrong, and I was surprised to see Jay make one like that.
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And you were infantry? Or just a REMF? Maybe even (the horror) AIR FORCE?
stands for decibels
December 4th, 2012
10:25 am
both Ailes and Murdoch will be dead
I think Murdoch’s really not all that active a participant in all this stuff these days, frankly.
also too, like UnU said (@ 10.20.)
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
10:25 am
good grief – when you get to the 7:30 / 8:00 minute mark, she goes totally off the deep end …
Welcome to the Occupation
December 4th, 2012
10:26 am
Mark in mid-town: “MSNBC is part of NBC and at no time as Fox News been as one-sided a propaganda machine as MSNBC”
Actually there’s some truth to this, though in a very perverse way, and not necessarily the way you think.
Fox News is a propaganda arm of the Republican party, but it also serves the conservative movement as a whole. Therefore, when things go south with one particular candidate or set of leaders the discussion can easily move on to new faces and arguments. That gives the network some minimal independence from any one set of party representatives. Any conservative leader knows that if he steps out of line, some Tea Party or further right figure can step on the scene and push him aside, via Fox News. On MSNBC however you have none of that. It’s completely driven by the Democratic party apparatus and of course its one cardinal rule that there will be no criticism – ever – of the great sainted Barack Obama.
That said, it’s still early. MSNBC has not had as many years to learn and to hone its formula to balance the need to maintain the enthusiasm of the party faithful and thus keep partisan eyeballs coming back with the need to not over-invest in any one figure or cohort of party leaders. How MSNBC navigates that dynamic will of course become more apparent during the 2nd term of the great sainted one. We shall see…
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2012
10:28 am
“Maybe even (the horror) AIR FORCE?”
I sure would not want to be infantry in a combat theater that lacked air superiority.
oops
December 4th, 2012
10:28 am
our tax code needs a stick of dynamite
Oscar
December 4th, 2012
10:28 am
MANGLER – Seems to me the presidents who have had sex rate a lot higher then those that did not. Maybe that was W’s problem.
alex
December 4th, 2012
10:29 am
No fred, if you can’t understand that I have no more time for you. Good luck, hope life improves for you, Merry Christmas: hope “you don’t shoot your eye out, kid” Movin’ on..
Repubs need to accept an increase on the top marginal rate to 38-39% and be done with that. Then put forth Their entitlement issues ..
oops
December 4th, 2012
10:30 am
taxable investors should get an offsetting reduction in capital gains and dividend taxes for any corporate taxes paid
Canada does this
stands for decibels
December 4th, 2012
10:30 am
First, Elmer Fudd. Now, a bag of rocks. What’s next.
Their candidate’s acceptance speech warm-up pre-empted by Clint Eastwood talking to an empty chair? nah, nobody would believe that, too absurd.
Oscar
December 4th, 2012
10:30 am
oops – a sharp pair of scissors would do just fine. Reduce by 75 per cent. Stir and bake.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
December 4th, 2012
10:30 am
YOU cons will believe anything. But Bengazi , no wait Rassmussen says Mitt is winning, you guys really are a disturbed bunch of idiots… lol
Fred ™
December 4th, 2012
10:30 am
Look before I leap…
December 4th, 2012
10:28 am
“Maybe even (the horror) AIR FORCE?”
I sure would not want to be infantry in a combat theater that lacked air superiority.
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Yeah that Afghani Air Force is a killer. They are on par with the Hungarian Navy………
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2012
10:31 am
” Seems to me the presidents who have had sex rate a lot higher then those that did not”
Thanks a lot!
It’s going to take a liter of scotch to get the image of Ronnie and Nancy out of my mind’s eye.
Fred ™
December 4th, 2012
10:31 am
alex
December 4th, 2012
10:29 am
No fred, if you can’t understand that I have no more time for you. Good luck, hope life improves for you, Merry Christmas: hope “you don’t shoot your eye out, kid” Movin’ on..
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In other words you have nothing but insults and goobley glop to offer. That’s what I figured.
Oscar
December 4th, 2012
10:32 am
oops – That would end double taxation of corporate profits. Good idea.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
December 4th, 2012
10:32 am
Even GEN Betraus wants nothing to do with the Clowns at Fake news…LOSERS….Hillary 2016……
Jack ®
December 4th, 2012
10:33 am
I’d've voted for Petraeus had he been on the ticket. Too bad his 60 year-old harmones kicked in at this time in his life. Maybe his black widow swain would be a good choice for Secy of State: if she can bed the top U.S. General, she oughta be able to handle a few recalcitrant U.N. members.
Fred ™
December 4th, 2012
10:33 am
oops
December 4th, 2012
10:30 am
taxable investors should get an offsetting reduction in capital gains and dividend taxes for any corporate taxes paid
Canada does this
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Oh so you support Obamacare or socialized medicine right? I mean Canada does it…………… You are against free speech as well. I mean Canada does it………….
Oscar
December 4th, 2012
10:35 am
Can’t see the General on tv as an analyst. He should concentrate on writing his own book. First, he needs a good editor or writer to help him. Oh, wait . . .
Fred ™
December 4th, 2012
10:37 am
Oscar @ 10:35: You are a bad, bad, EVIL man.
I can’t believe no one watched my video. It is a PERFECT visual metaphor for the Republicans……..
oops
December 4th, 2012
10:37 am
Oscar 10:32 bingo
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2012
10:37 am
” First, he needs a good editor or writer to help him. Oh, wait . . .”
Well, first he needs to know the difference between punctuation and penetration.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
10:38 am
“It’s going to take a liter of scotch to get the image of Ronnie and Nancy out of my mind’s eye.”
ewwww …
just.
ewwwwwww
stands for decibels
December 4th, 2012
10:39 am
No, we’re not all pissed to high hell over that, but this man who has dedicated his life to serving his Country (meaning all of us) had sex. ooooh.
Perhaps you already saw this, but if not…
http://www.thenation.com/blog/171367/petraeus-packs#
“Humans are weird. Sir.”
zeke
December 4th, 2012
10:40 am
Anyone would be better than what you lefties voted in! You deserve him! The rest of us do not!
clem
December 4th, 2012
10:40 am
yea that’s what we needed a general wanting to spend more on defense and in the pocket of ailes and big business types like the kochs. would not have taken long for them to figure out the general’s weaknesses.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 4th, 2012
10:41 am
zeke — “Anyone would be better than what you lefties voted in!”
Too bad for you.
“You deserve him! The rest of us do not!”
Too bad for you.
(uploads Kleenex)
Brosephus™
December 4th, 2012
10:42 am
Fred
You’re killing me with posts like that 10:16… I guess these gluteal derbys don’t understand the implication of the statements they’re making. Funny as hell that all these things are better than Obama, yet the GOP has lost to him TWICE on the grand stage. It’s Obama 2 – GOP 0.
DJ Sniper
December 4th, 2012
10:43 am
Hold up. Did Kayaker just blame the media for crucifying Sarah Palin? LMBAO!!!!!! Give us a break!!!! That moron didn’t need any help from the media; she did a great job of making herself looking like the fool that she is.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2012
10:43 am
“Anyone would be better than what you lefties voted in! You deserve him! The rest of us do not!”
Well you are stuck with him for 4 more years. You can cry in your soup and flap your wings and go all Chicken Little, or you can stay involved, write your congress critters and urge them to find a way to compromise so we can start moving forward as a country again.
Joke
December 4th, 2012
10:45 am
hahahaha….this is a joke isn’t it! His latest claim is “it was all the mistresses fault.” Yep, that’s great President Material….NOT! He’s weak.
alex
December 4th, 2012
10:45 am
2 oops, can you give us a primer on corporate taxes?,
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 4th, 2012
10:45 am
Well
It’s seem’s as if the Republicans keep doubling down on their own version of Hope and Change.
The debates only left one clear winner in the minds of Independants and moderates.
That was John Huntsman.
They threw him under the bus early so I guess we see where the R party stands
Brosephus™
December 4th, 2012
10:46 am
Fred @ 10:18
GO TO TIMEOUT!!!!! NOW!!!!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
10:47 am
(uploads Kleenex)
heh
Joe Hussein Mama
December 4th, 2012
10:47 am
Today In HURRRRRRRRRRR —
North Korea claims discovery of ‘unicorn lair’
Unicorns exist and look no further than an ancient burial site in North Korea for proof, according to the latest bit of fantastic news to emerge from the secretive dictatorship.
North Korean archaeologists “have recently reconfirmed a lair of the unicorn rode by King Tongmyong,” reports the state news outlet, Korean Central News Agency.
http://todaynews.today.com/_news/2012/12/03/15641738-north-korea-claims-discovery-of-unicorn-lair?lite=obnetwork
Can an FNC report on the subject be far behind?
RB from Gwinnett
December 4th, 2012
10:48 am
Joey, “You know, using a whining tone to demand that *others* stop whining just doesn’t ring true, RB. Would you like to try that again? (laughing) ;D”
No, Joey, I wouldn’t care to try that again. I’d also not care to waste any more time on your juvenile posts as it’s become quite clear you don’t have the mental aptitude to discuss anything of substance without lying or playing your silly semantics games.
I tell you what, Joey, until you can offer a rational explanation of the “Big difference between “taking somebody down” and ‘taking someone down a notch or two.”, I’ll just skip over your posts and you can just skip over mine. If you ever graduate from the 5th grade, maybe we can revisit that at some point. Good riddance child.
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2012
10:48 am
““gluteal derbys ”
had to read that twice – I had responded and asked if a specific term had been banned by Jay and there it is in moderation limbo.
Oh well, it was getting a bit over-used anyways. Nice dodge there Bro.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 4th, 2012
10:49 am
Bro
Did Jay ever forward you my email address so we can arrange a care package from PA?
Donovan
December 4th, 2012
10:52 am
Fred @ 8:48
Hey, Fred, here’s a new track…you can’t’ see the forest for the trees because you are a hopeless cause for common sense. Based on the crap I just read from you and the nonsensical crap you posted to others, you belong on this posting site as a day long loser who never goes to work as a productive citizen. I have a day off from making lots of money so I’ll swim in your left wing angry cesspool.
I really don’t know how people like you get such lame thoughts. Lack of education, mental illness, naive, jealous, or just plain stupid may answer the quandary.
You sound childish and snobbish with your LOST bragging push-back comment. Oh,well. Let me put it this way and maybe you will understand. I represent the voice of common sense and self-reliance. I believe in the teachings of our founding fathers. I believe in honesty and hard work. I believe in American exceptionalism.
I have a hard time agreeing with people like you who can’t see the forest for the trees. People like you who are jealous of the wealthy; people like you who are looters of America and the American dream; people like you who love big government and love government to do your thinking and day to day decision making; people like you who vote for the likes of Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Boxer, Obama, Franken, and all the other Democrat kooks in Congress; people like you who vote to have 4 more years of reckless spending, entitlement begging, taxing only the rich, and wanting to emulate
Greece.
This all falls on deaf ears because you are a hopeless case and a dedicated liberal. Might I even be so bold as to call you a delusional hippie that never grew up?
How do you talk to a liberal? You can’t!
Brosephus™
December 4th, 2012
10:52 am
Look before…
The latest blog rule is “The Fred Rule”. According to that rule, any post with the layman’s term for gluteal derby, badonkadonk toboggan, or any other type of head covering used for the derriere will automatically get put into moderation.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 4th, 2012
10:54 am
RB — “No, Joey, I wouldn’t care to try that again.”
No, I didn’t think so. (laughing, pointing)
“I’d also not care to waste any more time on your juvenile posts”
Then stop *responding* to them, RB. (laughing)
“as it’s become quite clear you don’t have the mental aptitude to discuss anything of substance without lying or playing your silly semantics games.”
RB, it’s not my fault that you’re too poorly-informed, poorly-educated and too deep in your partisan fever dreams to be able to have a meaningful discussion with anyone educated beyond the high-school level. That said, I’m willing to slow down to your level if you’ll bring the spastic jerking of your knee under control.
“I tell you what, Joey, until you can offer a rational explanation of the “Big difference between “taking somebody down” and ‘taking someone down a notch or two.”, I’ll just skip over your posts and you can just skip over mine.”
Tell you what, RB, unless and until you provide me with those fleet fueling figures I asked you for over two weeks ago, I will NEVER leave you alone, no matter how upset you get about it.
“If you ever graduate from the 5th grade, maybe we can revisit that at some point. Good riddance child.”
Good riddance? EXCELLENT!
I look forward to you shutting your yap so the rest of us can have a productive conversation, RB. I’m glad you’ve agreed to shove off and not bother us all any more. (giggling) 
Joe Hussein Mama
December 4th, 2012
10:55 am
Donovan — “Hey, Fred, here’s a new track…you can’t’ see the forest for the trees because you are a hopeless cause for common sense.”
****, Donny.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_big_lebowski#Cast
Brosephus™
December 4th, 2012
10:56 am
NoCom
Check your email…
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 4th, 2012
10:58 am
Damn
I must have missed the party with so many using meth THIS EARLY
Brosephus™
December 4th, 2012
10:58 am
People like you who are jealous of the wealthy; people like you who are looters of America and the American dream; people like you who love big government and love government to do your thinking and day to day decision making; people like you who vote for the likes of Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Boxer, Obama, Franken, and all the other Democrat kooks in Congress; people like you who vote to have 4 more years of reckless spending, entitlement begging, taxing only the rich, and wanting to emulate Greece.
Not to inject myself into the debate Donovan, but are you sure you’re talking about Fred™ from this blog, or some random Fred™?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
10:59 am
“badonkadonk toboggan”
baaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
11:01 am
“How do you talk to a liberal? You can’t!”
I’m sorry, Donovan … did you say something?
no?
didn’t think so.
Elliot Garcia
December 4th, 2012
11:01 am
Nothing unusual here…..Everybody knows that NBC and CBS bankrolled Obama…..
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2012
11:03 am
@
Donovan
December 4th, 2012
10:52 am
Wow, every Foxbot/Rushism for the last 4 years in 5 short paragraphs.
Nice done sir!
nelson
December 4th, 2012
11:05 am
I read some of the biograpy All In: The life of General David Petraeus, authored by Paula Broadwell, the General’s paramour. Needless to say, she portrayed David as larger than life, a “firstie” at West Point, meaning the upper 5% in academics, leadership and sports[soccer & tennis]. David was an over achiever in every way. He grew up in Cornwall, 5 miles from West Point. This all leads to the crux of [plot] of the biography. The General is 100% military, that is or was his place. He is a strong leader but not a political leader.
Splavistic
December 4th, 2012
11:06 am
“I’m pretty sure I am so old that I can remember when a story, with supporting (or “incriminating”, if you like) audio, about a major news conglomerate working directly to recruit a candidate for President would be the top headline for a given day that it came out.”
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EXACTLY!!!! WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?!!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
11:07 am
“Everybody knows that NBC and CBS bankrolled Obama…..”
oh, really???
care to provide some … oh, what’s that word … hmmm … EVIDENCE … that’s it! evidence.
got any??
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 4th, 2012
11:08 am
USinUK
WE gon’t need no stinking EVIDENCE
OR BADGES
Obamas_a_regionalist
December 4th, 2012
11:09 am
So, Petraeus was the pick of Fox News.
And Obama is an Affirmative Action baby chosen by liberals with power.
Welcome to America. It’s called politics.
Fred ™
December 4th, 2012
11:10 am
zeke
December 4th, 2012
10:40 am
Anyone would be better than what you lefties voted in! You deserve him! The rest of us do not!
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So you are saying you are worse than Obama/ How does that feel? Like a loser?
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
December 4th, 2012
11:11 am
Repugs you are losers…..And will will continue to be losers…..self deport please…
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2012
11:11 am
“He is a strong leader but not a political leader.”
You don’t get to pin multiple stars on your shoulders without knowing how to play the game of politics.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
December 4th, 2012
11:12 am
FOX carnival barkers… yeah
Welcome to the Occupation
December 4th, 2012
11:12 am
Obamas_a_regionalist: “And Obama is an Affirmative Action baby..”
Do you say that because your white nativist pride is seething in pain from the wound inflicted by the indignity of the black guy who’s president and can run rings around you intellectually?
Thought so.
Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 4th, 2012
11:13 am
“Jon Stewart said, despite what Fox News may say, “the rest of us can’t swing a dead elf without knocking over an inflatable snow globe or a giant blinking candy cane. For God sakes, Fox News itself is located in midtown Manhattan, the epicenter of all that is godless, secular, gay, Jewy and hellbound, and yet even here, all around your studio, it looks like Santa’s balls exploded.”
Look before I leap...
December 4th, 2012
11:13 am
“Shut the hell up JamVet you punk.Rachell Maddow is the dyke cry baby for gay people”
See what happens when a 5 year old has unsupervised access to the internet?
Brosephus™
December 4th, 2012
11:14 am
USinner
I came across this the other day and thought about you and your blog.
http://cdn.motinetwork.net/motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0908/bacon-bacon-sandwich-food-funny-demotivational-poster-1250121881.jpg
stands for decibels
December 4th, 2012
11:14 am
Shut the hell up JamVet you punk.Rachell Maddow is the dyke cry baby for gay people
another one for the “Kids, drugs are bad, mmkay?” file.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
December 4th, 2012
11:14 am
Rachel Maddow got a bigger pair than all of you Con losers combined…
Any Old Tom, Dick, MITT Or Harry....For President
December 4th, 2012
11:16 am
@Donovan
December 4th, 2012
10:52 am
I have a hard time agreeing with people like you who can’t see the forest for the trees. People like you who are jealous of the wealthy; people like you who are looters of America and the American dream; people like you who love big government and love government to do your thinking and day to day decision making; people like you who vote for the likes of Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Boxer, Obama, Franken, and all the other Democrat kooks in Congress; people like you who vote to have 4 more years of reckless spending, entitlement begging, taxing only the rich, and wanting to emulate
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YOU are the pot calling the KETTLE BLACK.
What forest were CONS looking through when they nominated
“I LOVE THE SIZE OF THE TREES” Myth Robme?
How did that WORK FOR YA?
Any Old Tom, Dick, MITT Or Harry….For President?
Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
December 4th, 2012
11:16 am
Who bankrolled Obama? Secret super pac.
Thank you Citizens United!
RDl
December 4th, 2012
11:17 am
Fred: I was in a little place called Hiep Duc. Look it up. Or if you prefer, read the book. You can probably find it in your local library. Bottom line, I just don’t think that all infantrymen think the same way about things like abortion, gun control and the like. I’m sorry if you do. We just disagree.
alex
December 4th, 2012
11:17 am
@ Common sense… Holiday stress, I guess..HO! Ho! HO!
Oops
December 4th, 2012
11:18 am
Alex 10:45
What do u want to know?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
11:18 am
“Shut the hell up JamVet you punk.Rachell Maddow is the dyke cry baby for gay people”
holy moses … someone started the bourbon early …
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
11:18 am
Bro – 11:14 … needs cheese.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
December 4th, 2012
11:21 am
“Please give me 3 legit reasons……..Waiting”
because he turned around the economy
because he’s NOT trying to make women a second-class citizen
because he’s accomplished more against terrorism in 4 years than Bush did in 8
oh, and you’re a wanker.
Any Old Tom, Dick, MITT Or Harry....For President
December 4th, 2012
11:21 am
@Why ?
December 4th, 2012
11:18 am
To all the gays,blacks,mexicans,young brain washed college kids,and a portion of white females,why in the hell did you vote for Obama.Please give me 3 legit reasons……..Waiting
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Reason #1 Why?
Reason #2 Why?
Reason #3 PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
Brosephus™
December 4th, 2012
11:21 am
Why ? @ 11:10
Remember that everybody’s just playing along….
http://www.traemcneely.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/wpid-what-if-525×5231.jpg
N-GA (on the winning side 2 federal elections in a row!)
December 4th, 2012
11:21 am
@Donovan – “I represent the voice of common sense and self-reliance. I believe in the teachings of our founding fathers. I believe in honesty and hard work. I believe in American exceptionalism.”
1. You do not represent JACK!
2. What “teachings” would those be? Slavery? Womens Bondage?
3. Define American exceptionalism (this should be good – lol)
Welcome to the Occupation
December 4th, 2012
11:21 am
Donovan: “People like you who are jealous of the wealthy”
I’m not jealous of the wealthy, I just want their money. I want it to go other places. And I’m interested in getting more militant about seeing to it that that happens. So you see, it’s got nothin to do with “jealousy” as the pin-headed Fox News junkies are wont to think. It’s all about returning the money the wealthy 1% elites are hoarding illegitimately for themselves to the detriment of the people. It’s about smashing the tray out of their hands on their way to gorge themselves on yet more benefits they’ve apportioned to themselves, greedy insatiable pigs that they are.
See, I’m not jealous. I’m militant. Yeah, that’s it.
Splavistic
December 4th, 2012
11:23 am
Seriously! How is this NOT in BOLD on all major news sites (besides FauxNewz, obviously…)?!!! Major bombshell. I’m sure a number of laws were broken during the course of their conversation.
Joe Hussein Mama
December 4th, 2012
11:23 am
Why — “Shut the hell up JamVet you punk.Rachell Maddow is the dyke cry baby for gay people”
I know, right? How DID that woman *ever* manage to get a TV gig when an eloquent rascal like yourself can’t score one?