President Petraeus? Fox News sure liked the ring of it

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Somehow — and that “somehow” is a no doubt fascinating story in its own right — Bob Woodward at The Washington Post has obtained a digital recording of a long, detailed conversation between Fox News correspondent KT McFarland and then-General David Petraeus in the spring of 2011 in Afghanistan during which McFarland:

A.) Urges Petraeus to run for president against Barack Obama;

Roger Ailes

Roger Ailes

B.) Tells Petraeus that she was instructed to carry that message to Petraeus by Fox News President Roger Ailes and its owner, Rupert Murdoch;

C.) Tells Petraeus that Fox would fully back his presidential campaign, and by fully back she means:

D.) Murdoch would finance the campaign. Ailes would leave Fox to run the campaign. And Fox News itself would become the house organ of the campaign. As McFarland puts it point blank, “The big boss is bankrolling it. Roger’s going to run it. And the rest of us are going to be your in-house.”

Throughout the conversation, Petraeus makes it clear repeatedly that he has no intention of running for president, and that was always my sense of him as well. He understood why others might want to project that future upon him, but he himself never gave the slightest public indication of interest in that career path.

I did have the benefit of an hour-long, one-on-one discussion with Petraeus in his office in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, several months before he became famous, and certainly long before any discussion of the presidency would have been germane. We talked instead about Iraq, counter-insurgency and military-media relations. The impression I got from that conversation, from my research and from following his subsequent career path was that Petraeus was of course a very good “political general.” He knew how to get what he wanted from the media, Congress and the bureaucracy. But he also had an infantryman’s disdain for issues such as abortion, tax rates, gun control and health-care reform, not to mention the fundraising and campaign-trail compromising that would be required. They held no interest for him. So his side of the conversation was no surprise.

On the other hand, the extent of the Fox involvement in attempting to woo Petraeus into the political world is pretty startling even to those of us who already see Fox as a blatantly political implement. And while I seriously doubt that Ailes would have actually left Fox to help Petraeus — he would have been more useful to the general/politician by staying where he is — the depth of the promised commitment is pretty clear.

At one point, in fact, McFarland explains why her bosses back home are so insistent on a Petraeus candidacy:

“Well, but . . . and here’s the thinking: that they’re nervous about. . . . They feel that Obama had this mandate. And the mandate — in his own mind. Obama wanted to do Obamacare. . . . He wanted to do environment, which is basically controlling all aspects of the economy. And education, which is the future. So he pushed for Obamacare. He got that done. They didn’t anticipate 2010 results. But he now is going to lie low and be very centrist so that they win in ’12 and they get the other two. Now, what they need — and this is not from the chiefs, this is from political people — and what they need to cement it so that it doesn’t get reversed is a third term. And that means 2016, they need to win, the Democrats need to win, and they need to win with their guy. Their kind of guy. So that then you’d have the stuff as locked in place for a generation. Nobody can come in like Reagan came in and reverse.”

Petraeus was to be the means by which that danger could be averted, which says something about how much they fear Obama and also how little faith they have in the Republican Party to produce winning candidates on its own. They saw him as a potential savior; he had no interest in being cast in that role.

Ailes, by the way, downplayed the story to the Post, as well as McFarland’s role as a messenger.

“It sounds like she thought she was on a secret mission in the Reagan administration. . . . She was way out of line. . . . It’s someone’s fantasy to make me a kingmaker. It’s not my job.”

Well, at least it shouldn’t be.

UPDATE: It’s also relevant to note how neatly this behavior dovetails with Murdoch’s very-cozy relationships with top politicians in Great Britain, where he reportedly tried to act as a kingmaker with prime ministers dating back to the time of John Major, if not earlier.

– Jay Bookman

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Jeffrey

December 4th, 2012
7:48 am

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
7:52 am

“C.) Tells Petraeus that Fox would fully back his presidential campaign, and by fully back she means:

D.) Murdoch would finance the campaign. Ailes would leave Fox to run the campaign. And Fox News itself would become the house organ of the campaign. As McFarland puts it point blank, “The big boss is bankrolling it. Roger’s going to run it. And the rest of us are going to be your in-house.” ”

and yet, MSNBC is “biased”

oy.

Hillary 2016

December 4th, 2012
7:54 am

…stay tuned…

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
7:57 am

gawd, that audio…

Saint Petraeus actually says “I love Roger” [Ailes]. I couldn’t really get past that bit of hackishness.

I guess we Americans are lucky he let the little head do the thinking for the big head.

JamVet

December 4th, 2012
7:58 am

Ailes, Murdoch et al are nauseating.

I was channel surfing for a few moments last night and decided to check out what the disgusting Bill O’Reilly was up to. The usual. His old man crybaby routine about why some university was not allowing the even more despicable Ann Coulter a voice at THEIR university.

To the point made downstairs, that this modern day GOP is the absolute worst political party to hit this country, at least since the days of Joseph McCarthy, it is exceedingly hard not to agree.

And any assistance that I can give in the effort to hasten their ongoing emasculation and marginalization is something that I am very glad to do…

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

December 4th, 2012
8:00 am

Remember y’all, “Fox News” is registered under “entertainment” and not “news”…

The new fox show for TV:

Fox News! The Secret Society helping to fight against the Evil Democrat Party and is trying to save the world for Big Business and the 1%….See it Thursdays!

Brosephus™

December 4th, 2012
8:00 am

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I wonder if Petraeus played this for Murdoch and Co.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBlMrGgpwXE

ByteMe - Got ilk?

December 4th, 2012
8:01 am

Ailes, by the way, downplayed the story to the Post, as well as McFarland’s role as a messenger

The non-denial denial. Very Republican.

Georgia

December 4th, 2012
8:01 am

Savior? So any president is a savior? Caesars have been around since there have been rubicons to cross. He would have been a grand Caesar.

TaxPayer

December 4th, 2012
8:02 am

Republicans being forced to impeach him over more blue dresses. Nah. He’s just not presidential material.

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:03 am

I’m pretty sure I am so old that I can remember when a story, with supporting (or “incriminating”, if you like) audio, about a major news conglomerate working directly to recruit a candidate for President would be the top headline for a given day that it came out.

But I don’t see this WaPo story (from its STYLE section! no, really, check it out! S-t-y-l-e! holy shizz…) anywhere in the google or yahoo news homepages.

I guess “The year’s most disappointing film flops” and “When butt enhancement goes horribly wrong” are more important.

Thomas Heyward Jr

December 4th, 2012
8:04 am

Times are hard …….. when the Republocrat Progressive Warmonger Party of Washington can’t even attract …………………………………………………………a warmonger.
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But they do have a drone caucus now though.

alex

December 4th, 2012
8:04 am

Peteus is a republican, Eisenhower was a republican..I’m sure that there were various business concerns who went to Eisenhower to ask him to run. The fact that businessmen want to suggest to someone to run is not news.Now Petreus is out of the picture…Jay you need to get on the entitlement question this sort of crap is best left to the NY post….Come on man get in the game, get relevant, wake up, shake out the cobwebbs, ……..

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
8:04 am

“Petraeus was to be the means by which that danger could be averted, which says something about how much they fear Obama and also how little faith they have in the Republican Party to produce winning candidates on its own. They saw him as a potential savior; he had no interest in being cast in that role.”

they love to look to the military for their candidates … “If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve.”

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:05 am

Oh well.

Jay, the election is over, and this is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let’s not bicker and argue about ‘oo killed ‘oo.

RB from Gwinnett

December 4th, 2012
8:07 am

We got Fox News, you got MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, HN, AJC, WEEKEND UPDATE, MTV NEWS, and you’re worried about Fox News….

Here’s some more important reading for you. http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/12/03/us-ambassador-were-trying-to-stop-un-from-regulating-internet/

The fact this is even being discussed ought to be enough reason to question the UN.

Brosephus™

December 4th, 2012
8:07 am

The non-denial denial. Very Republican.

When was the last time any Republican in the DC area took responsibility for their actions?

straitroad

December 4th, 2012
8:07 am

Jay, you have an obsession with Fox News. This is only a news story to the extreme left.

Wait a minute

December 4th, 2012
8:09 am

Haven’t NBC, ABC, and CBS been pushing liberal agendas and Democrat presidentail candidates for 50+ years? And, of course, MSNBC and the few hundred thousand viewers a day that watch it. Is that newsworthy? They are just too smug and arrogant to believe they are biased.

alex

December 4th, 2012
8:09 am

Oh I forgot, reminds me of the David Mcolouth book on Truman, if you have not read it, jay you should–talk about business/political concerns going to Truman to get him to run for the Senate seat. At that time he was an accomplished haberdasher ( actually not really accomplished at all)…But your syncophants are ALARMED, read some history boys and girls…….

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 4th, 2012
8:10 am

It would be fitting if there were a way to prosecute Fox/Murdoch/Ailes for effectively being a political organ and trying to “select” a president.

But I am sure we’ll hear the defense about how they are “fair and balanced” and it’s not the “newsy” people. :roll:

steve

December 4th, 2012
8:11 am

Fox and the GOP: home to good Americans and good Christians. Except that every one of them at the top are purposely trying to destroy the average American and create a HUGE lower class sothat we can be more easily controlled. And except that most conservative “Christians” act so un-Christlike demonizing poor people, blaming the sick and disaster victims as targets of an angry God, and would dog cuss Jesus as a hippy if he came back to Earth today. The cult of Ronald Reagan inspired by a myth that convinces the average American to vote against his own interests and further empower the super rich to control every aspect of our lives. Congrats folks that vote Republican, you support people that don’t care for America and that never really learned the lessons of Christ, we’re reaping what you’ve been sowing since 1980!

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

December 4th, 2012
8:11 am

President Petraeus?

Now I don’t care who you are……that’s funny.

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:11 am

the old “it was just a joke” excuse? yeah, why not… after all, it’s just the WaPo’s Style section calling.

In a telephone interview Monday, the wily and sharp-tongued Ailes said he did indeed ask McFarland to make the pitch to Petraeus. “It was more of a joke, a wiseass way I have,” he said. “I thought the Republican field [in the primaries] needed to be shaken up and Petraeus might be a good candidate.”

(yes, I’m still dumbfounded over the WaPo putting this in the f-cking Style section. I’m going to be doing that for awhile.)

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
8:13 am

“Jay you need to get on the entitlement question this sort of crap is best left to the NY post”

move along … nothing to see here …

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:13 am

Haven’t NBC, ABC, and CBS been pushing liberal agendas

why don’t you do some homework and find out where one of those news corporations’ CEOs directly sought to recruit a presidential candidate in our lifetimes?

there’s a good lad. Let us know what you find!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
8:14 am

“It would be fitting if there were a way to prosecute Fox/Murdoch/Ailes for effectively being a political organ and trying to “select” a president. ”

you furnish the pictures, I’ll furnish the war … FOX news … yellow journalism has never tasted so foul

RB from Gwinnett

December 4th, 2012
8:15 am

“for effectively being a political organ and trying to “select” a president. ”

Look out Jay. Somebody wants you in jail….

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
8:16 am

“why don’t you do some homework and find out where one of those news corporations’ CEOs directly sought to recruit a presidential candidate in our lifetimes?”

forget recruiting candidates … find out where one of those news corps’ CEOs said they would effing FINANCE the campaign and be the house organ of the campaign

D.) Murdoch would finance the campaign. Ailes would leave Fox to run the campaign. And Fox News itself would become the house organ of the campaign. As McFarland puts it point blank, “The big boss is bankrolling it. Roger’s going to run it. And the rest of us are going to be your in-house.”

Bob Loblaw

December 4th, 2012
8:16 am

One too many Fox News columns.

#1 Foxy Lady

December 4th, 2012
8:16 am

Bias?….. Maybe. Sexy?…… Definitely!!!

Sean

December 4th, 2012
8:16 am

Can you imagine what would have happened if he did run for president and then his love affair broke out?

Whatever

December 4th, 2012
8:17 am

Stands,

Does a news agency have to recruit a candidate to be pushing a certain agenda? Of course not.

There is no news program around anymore that doesn’t lean one way or another. It’s obvious. Fox and MSNBC seem to be the most so (to me) but the others definitely have a slant.

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:17 am

forget recruiting candidates … find out where one of those news corps’ CEOs said they would effing FINANCE the campaign and be the house organ of the campaign

yeah, I kinda buried the lede there, didn’t I. Mea culpa.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
8:18 am

“Can you imagine what would have happened if he did run for president and then his love affair broke out?”

a 24-hour-a-day schtup-fest bonanza for the news!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
8:19 am

“yeah, I kinda buried the lede there, didn’t I. Mea culpa.”

which is why I’m absolutely gobsmacked that more attention isn’t being paid to the fact that FOX on-air personalities went out and actively campaigned for Mittens.

sweet jeebus – they don’t even PRETEND to have journalistic standards.

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:19 am

Whatever @ 8.17, this is not about merely “pushing an agenda.”

Nobody on the planet is as obtuse as you are claiming to be, so go sell that crap to someone interested in buying,

Brad Steel

December 4th, 2012
8:20 am

Fox’s efforts to undermine patriotism should shame even the most ardent right-winger.

Thomas Heyward Jr

December 4th, 2012
8:21 am

Patreus and the Republican wing of the Neo-con Party are only getting their figures straight.
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If your’re under the age of 60……..still have hair…..don’t have a “voting record/paper trial”………AND……you..actually..served……..in the………..Military, you can name your price in the Republican party.You’re golden.
It’s the Law of Scarcity/Demand in the Free Market.
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Pretty much works the same way in the Democrat wing……(although the democrat wing might put more emphasis on not being a felon).

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 4th, 2012
8:21 am

Its amazing that so many of our conned readily accept the fact that they are lied to, manipulated by Fox, and lead by the nose by Fox for a political agenda rather than even try to claim that the “fourth estate” has ethical and other obligations to be independent. They love to bring up a certain CBS news personality who was part of a “scandal of lies” about Bush, but the fact remains: It was a scandal, CBS acted to terminate those involved and its corporate policy is that it will not be tolerated. But no heads will roll at Fox. It is their corporate policy to support the Republican party.

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:22 am

a 24-hour-a-day schtup-fest bonanza for the news!

more like a lot of file-deletions as right wing pundits tried to scrub their history of tut-tutting about Teh Clenis, and worked to support St. Petraeus’ fight for his right to paaaatay.

(had he actually secured the nomination. If the news had emerged during the primaries, he’d be tossed under the APC, of course.)

RB from Gwinnett

December 4th, 2012
8:25 am

“Can you imagine what would have happened if he did run for president and then his love affair broke out?”

Didn’t seem to affect Bill Clinton.

kayaker 71

December 4th, 2012
8:25 am

So, Bookman would have us believe that the entire news media had no role in electing Bozo for a second term. Like Ms Piggy…… MOI?. And if Republicans come up with one news outlet that protects their own, this is some kind of “news”. Spare us, Bookman.

alex

December 4th, 2012
8:27 am

@USin UK agree and of course same could be said about Msnbc, and then return is Fox says “fair and Balanced”, and on and on, We’ve done this . it’s old, it’s Sundays tuna fish salad on a thursday, it’s nauseating and it’s unneccesary. Jay is being LAZY…Move on

Whatever

December 4th, 2012
8:28 am

Stands,

I’m doing nothing of the sort. Just giving my opinion of the landscape. All stations have a slant and Fox and MSNBC are the worst (in my opinion). Hearing Chris Matthews get a “tingle in his leg” when discussing Obama was very telling to me who he’s in the bag for.

Thank you again for engaging in intelligent and congenial conversation.

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:28 am

They love to bring up a certain CBS news personality who was part of a “scandal of lies” about Bush

And oh, how they will, before this thread’s hit the century mark I imagine. Because D-n R-ther went to air with a decently documented case that happened to have one (1) sketchy bit of documentation attached, CBS sh-tcanned four producers when right wing imbeciles went ape.

(and oh how I wish they’d given that document to me–I’d have told them to leave it out the second I’d seen it, but that’s only because of my old life in the graphics biz. The proportionally spaced font woulda stuck out like a sore thumb.)

Jm

December 4th, 2012
8:30 am

Meh

People are lobbying others to run for prez all the time

Bloomberg is lobbying Hillary to be mayor of NYC

I’m lobbying Stephen Colbert to run for mayor of Georgia

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
8:31 am

“Move on”

which is what all this boils down to –

as the evidence stacks up that FOX has NO ethics or journalistic integrity, that’s EXACTLY what FOX fans want us to do – ignore it. “Sundays tuna fish salad on a thursday”?? not quite.

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:31 am

Hearing Chris Matthews get a “tingle in his leg” when discussing Obama

Oh FFS. If you knew anything about Tweety, you’d know he’s barely tolerated by actual progressives, and that he expressed similar excitement over Bush’s Mission Accomplished moment.

Don’t try to concern troll me–guys like our Stevie Ray and Jm would eat you for breakfast.

DJ Sniper

December 4th, 2012
8:33 am

Kayaker, let’s try this again: Did the chairman of any other news outlet say anything about his network financing a presidential campaign? Since that hasn’t happened, you can’t compare them with Fox News. And please stop with the “liberal media” excuse that some of you seem so fond of.

mm

December 4th, 2012
8:34 am

Fox News needs to have their license revoked.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 4th, 2012
8:34 am

Don’t you love our conned admitting they have no problem with propaganda and being misled. Any wonder they are shocked to lose elections? USinUK, its more than yellow journalism, but it is clearly the Ailes plan outlined for Nixon. Insidious.

And for the record, while MSNBC may have progressive opinion commentators on certain shows (and they disclose it), I expect their NEWS to be independent, based on facts and good ethical reporting making real effort to be independent. I would be offended if I learned that MSNBC/NBC news said they would slant their news coverage to support a candidate or party. And while our conned may claim “its the same”, as usual, its NOT and another smoking gun has been found.

Whatever

December 4th, 2012
8:35 am

Stands,

I’m all excited. Someone is going to eat me for breakfast…..I don’t live in your world. I don’t get bent out of shape over comments such as yours.

I’m actually here to try and have some descent political conversation. I am really surprised at how inconsiderate many here are. No wonder we can’t work together on tough political issues. Look at yourself and others like you. Everyone is pretty much a jerk but somehow we expect our leaders to not be like us.

If you want Congress and the President to work together maybe you could start with yourself instead of crowing about who will eat who. If you were a child I’d find it humorous but since I assume you are an adult I’ll just feel pity for you.

Brosephus™

December 4th, 2012
8:36 am

(yes, I’m still dumbfounded over the WaPo putting this in the f-cking Style section. I’m going to be doing that for awhile.)

Where else would you put it if you wanted to hide it? ;)

St Simons - aboriginal BOOTAKOOK 2014

December 4th, 2012
8:37 am

hahaha joke’s on us libs

Unskewed polls & Ron Jeremy dot com have him surging!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
8:37 am

Oh FFS. If you knew anything about Tweety, you’d know he’s barely tolerated by actual progressives, and that he expressed similar excitement over Bush’s Mission Accomplished moment.

let’s have a replay, shall we??

Chris Matthews on MSNBC called Bush a “hero” and boomed, “He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics.” He added: “Women like a guy who’s president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It’s simple.”

http://www.thenation.com/blog/160252/8th-anniversary-mission-accomplished-how-media-heavies-hailed-hero-bush#

TaxPayer

December 4th, 2012
8:38 am

Truth in advertising should require Fox Lies to be the official name of the most trusted site for what Republicans want to hear.

Jm

December 4th, 2012
8:38 am

People who use the f bomb have difficulty expressing themselves adequately with the rest of the English language.

They also look very dumb.

DannyX

December 4th, 2012
8:39 am

“@USin UK agree and of course same could be said about Msnbc, and then return is Fox says “fair and Balanced”, and on and on, We’ve done this . it’s old, it’s Sundays tuna fish salad on a thursday, it’s nauseating and it’s unneccesary.”

Time after time specifics are given showing Fox News crazy behavior. Just about everyday Fox News does something stupid. The Fox News puppets then defend them by offering the very lame “MSNBC does it too” defense with the maturity of a 6 year old, never providing specific examples just a lot of whining.

Hey Fox News defenders, go to your room!

ObamasNoLeader

December 4th, 2012
8:39 am

More senseless drivel from Jay….

Brosephus™

December 4th, 2012
8:39 am

dB

I will give the WaPo a smidget of credit. They have the story linked on their home page as the first story below their primary stories.

Donovan

December 4th, 2012
8:41 am

The trouble with the Republican Party is fairly simple. It cannot figure out a way to convince half the American people they are being had by the Santa Claus Party. It cannot find a way to take away the candy that is ruining the health of this country. It cannot find a way to persuade the hapless from hating the productive segment of society. It cannot find a way to persude people that self-reliance is better than government reliance.

It is a historical problem of trying to effectively educate mankind to the evils of government malfeasance and entitlement abuse. The Democrat Party knows all too well the frailties of human nature and elects to use the low road exploitation of controlling human nature for its corrupt power.

Therefore, when there is only one voice out there such as Fox News which has a huge viewing audience that reveals truth and common sense, Democrats will try anything to vilify this network of truth. Their main beacon of evil, MSNBC, never seems to come close to the ratings that Fox garnishes and it drives them crazy.

So what does the liberal nation do? It sends out the likes of Jay Bookmans to stir up the pot of ridicule and hatred. Right, guys? Judging from the typical rhetoric of the Bookman sheep, I’d say I was right.

RB from Gwinnett

December 4th, 2012
8:42 am

You have 9 networks doing the liberal bidding and you tools are having a meltdown over the 1 network supporting Republicans????? What the hell is wrong with you people? You’re behaving like a communist dictator who wants to silence all opposition.

But then several of you do tend to have communist tendencies…

DannyX

December 4th, 2012
8:42 am

“tingle in his leg”

That tingle is over four years old! The Fox News crazy never ends.

kayaker 71

December 4th, 2012
8:43 am

DJ Sniper, 8:33.

You wouldn’t know liberal bias if it bit you on the arse. It just pisses you off if the right now has someone who will stand up for them and their candidates. The entire media structure in this country, including Fox, has become so polarized that it can no longer be called anything else but an extension of either the DNC or the RNC. To deny this is not only ridiculous but pretty stupid. The TV and print media has not only let the electorate down by being so in the tank for a particular candidate but does so with abandon. Most of them just don’t care if their candidate wins. Most people who watch this political drivel that is presently called “journalism” and believe it would believe most anything that some talking head says, no matter what party they belong to. So don’t give me this BS about a non-biased media. It just ain’t so.

Fred ™

December 4th, 2012
8:43 am

Brad Steel

December 4th, 2012
8:20 am

Fox’s efforts to undermine patriotism should shame even the most ardent right-winger.
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Who are you trying to kid? As is proven hundreds of times a day here, Republicans have no shame. As well as no honor, integrity, or ethics……….

When exactly DID they transform into the party of liars and scum? When they embraced Rush Rand as their God and Goddess or was it before? Either way it’s a shame.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
8:44 am

“People who use the f bomb have difficulty expressing themselves adequately with the rest of the English language.

They also look very dumb.”

meh. if it was good enough for Shakespeare’s plays, it’s good enough for me.

DannyX

December 4th, 2012
8:44 am

“What the hell is wrong with you people? You’re behaving like a communist dictator who wants to silence all opposition.”

What a weird hysterical reaction.

Most of us don’t want to silence Fox News, we want to point a finger at them and laugh.

Jay

December 4th, 2012
8:46 am

So who had the tape? McFarland? Petraeus? His staff?

Who leaked it? And why?

Fred ™

December 4th, 2012
8:48 am

Wow Donovan, you are sad. You know you LOST right? You LOST because only a small minority of people are stupid enough to believe the Rush Foxbot lies like you posted at 8:41.

yeah anyone who has a brain and it’s a FOXBOT automatically wants “candy” and “free giveaways.”

Try a different tack, thta hate filled mantra fools very few people, although you seem to be one of them.

Yawn. you forgot to say obamaphone, Muslim Kenyan with no birth certificate, and Benghazi……….. can you get more bumber sticker lies in next time please?

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:48 am

Fox News needs to have their license revoked.

what “license?” any leverage the FCC had over actual broadcasters was given away ages ago (thank you Reagan and Clinton). and obviously, FNC is not an on-the-air broadcaster, so there’s next to nothing that can be done, legally.

weetamoe

December 4th, 2012
8:49 am

Ahh, more conspiracy theories.

Sally

December 4th, 2012
8:49 am

Interesting commentary from a liberal media guy. That liberal media that ignored the story of a U.S. Ambassador and two Navy Seals being killed by extremist in order to get their guy re elected. You sir have no credibility when it comes to pointing a finger at a media outlet not doing their job properly.

Fred ™

December 4th, 2012
8:49 am

Jay @ 8:46. I was wondering that myself. Judging from the way they seem to have thrown McFarland under the bus, I would suspect she did it. I imagine she was butt hurt on another matter and decided to go all scorned woman on them.

Jay

December 4th, 2012
8:50 am

Bro, initially the story appeared nowhere on their home page. Not even a link from their one-word headlines across the top, such as “Petraeus”.

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:50 am

You have 9 networks doing the liberal bidding

No, we do not.

I know this is already painfully obvious to rational people out there, but some people are stupid and need to be reminded that the corporate-owned media are not “doing the liberal bidding,” and repeating this lie isn’t going to make it any more true.

So stop lying, RB.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
8:50 am

“You have 9 networks doing the liberal bidding and you tools are having a meltdown over the 1 network supporting Republicans????? What the hell is wrong with you people? You’re behaving like a communist dictator who wants to silence all opposition. ”

:lol:

silence them??

I’m happy if they continue to broadcast – they just have to adhere to ethical and journalistic standards.

and here’s a hint – financing a candidate’s campaign AIN’T ONE OF THEM

Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 4th, 2012
8:52 am

That liberal media that ignored the story of a U.S. Ambassador and two Navy Seals being killed by extremist in order to get their guy re elected.

Ov vey, the weak minded gullible sure do like to swallow anything their Fox masters tells them.

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:52 am

I’m all excited. Someone is going to eat me for breakfast…

Hey, I can relate. If that “someone” were, say… oh, never mind. I’m probably close to getting yeller-carded already.

St Simons - aboriginal BOOTAKOOK 2014

December 4th, 2012
8:52 am

2003 – Fox News Wins Right to Lie in Fla Court of Appeals

Fox KNOWS how to exert its rights, buddy

GT

December 4th, 2012
8:52 am

Now overlay this with what is going on in England. You have a hacking Murdock who has violated about every law of privacy known to the free world. I mean this guy is a Watergate break-in a minute. And where is the motivation, these guys would shoot their parents for a good meal so don’t give me patriotism; my guess is it leads to money and power, and from a foreign power no less.

Buzz Belle

December 4th, 2012
8:53 am

Dangerous. Scary. Republican.

kayaker 71

December 4th, 2012
8:53 am

Patraeus would make a great president. But if he runs, the liberal media will make it their mission to vilify, demean and relentlessly pursue his every move to make him appear unqualified and ridiculous. Sarah Palin and her family were so maligned by this “non-biased” media that you would have thought that this chick was some kind of pariah and a pox on society. But it worked and there is not one liberal who has any remorse for doing it. It was necessary to win…. to hell with decency and demeanor. Anything that furthers the liberal cause is fair game…. anything. No wonder some guy at Fox is interested in backing a candidate that he feels would make a good president. The rest of the media has been doing that same thing for years only on a different side of the aisle.

Kramer

December 4th, 2012
8:53 am

Bill Clinton as President? Bookman liked it. You taking on Fox News Bookman is a joke. 100 times more people watch their programming at 3:00 am then read your sh*t on a daily basis. Plus they trust FNC more then you and that really pi**es you off doesn’t it?

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:53 am

Not even a link from their one-word headlines across the top, such as “Petraeus”.

When I clicked the “see related stories” on Teh News Google a few minutes ago, there were but 13 listed, included Jay’s.

Were it not for a few DFHs taking notice of this Style story, it’d be buried already.

DannyX

December 4th, 2012
8:53 am

“I know this is already painfully obvious to rational people out there, but some people are stupid and need to be reminded that the corporate-owned media are not “doing the liberal bidding,” and repeating this lie isn’t going to make it any more true”

That lie allows the Fox News crazies to justify the Fox News crazy.

bookman parrot

December 4th, 2012
8:53 am

to USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
“oy”
what are you oying. Fox has never tried to say it is not a conservative outlet. But the so called mainstream media (ABC, NBC, MS-NBC…) likes to pretend it is “fair” … when it is totally biased.
Which is worse, the con says it is a con… or the liar pretending to be something it totally is not.
That is not a question for you (USinUK)… because you are beyond hope of being objective.

Fred ™

December 4th, 2012
8:53 am

Sally

December 4th, 2012
8:49 am

Interesting commentary from a liberal media guy. That liberal media that ignored the story of a U.S. Ambassador and two Navy Seals being killed by extremist in order to get their guy re elected. You sir have no credibility when it comes to pointing a finger at a media outlet not doing their job properly.
+++++++++++++++++

Did you even blush when you typed that lie above? Have you at least THAT much shame? A mercenary is not a SEAL and a SEAL is not a mercenary. Two mercenary’s died in Libya with the Ambassador, not 2 SEALS.

DannyX

December 4th, 2012
8:54 am

“Bill Clinton as President? Bookman liked it.”

Someone is about to be schooled by Jay.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
8:55 am

“That liberal media that ignored the story of a U.S. Ambassador and two Navy Seals being killed by extremist”

:lol:

yes.

they ignored it.

TOTALLY ignored it.

nope, no stories about the riots at all.

nothing.

kept quiet.

schtum.

nada.

nuttin’

DannyX

December 4th, 2012
8:56 am

“Fox has never tried to say it is not a conservative outlet.”

Fox News is NOT a conservative outlet. Fox News is a crazy news outlet.

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:57 am

Bill Clinton as President? Bookman liked it.

Jay called for Clinton to resign, actually.

alex

December 4th, 2012
8:57 am

@ fred, your broad paint strokes belittle and diminish your intellectual impact, neither the Dem or rhe Repubs are a monolithic group, to say so shows ignorance. Broaden your horizons, thinking in absolutes is for physiscs, not for politics.

The Pres has rejected the Repubs entitlement cuts in light of their lack of acceptance of the tax cuts (direct)…Game on, Washington style….

? will dropping the morgage deduction negatively affect the housing industry or How high can the marginal rates go before there is an adverse economic impact ? ( if any)

Fred ™

December 4th, 2012
8:57 am

kayaker 71

December 4th, 2012
8:53 am

Patraeus would make a great president. But if he runs, the liberal media will make it their mission to vilify, demean and relentlessly pursue his every move to make him appear unqualified and ridiculous.
+++++++++++++++++++++

Why/ What evidence do you have of that? Seems to me that the “liberal media” wou;d SUPPORT a guy that Obama appointed for Director of CIA.

Oh and don’t EVEN tyr to compare that mindless twit Palin and her dysfunctional family to Petraeus. There isn’t a shred of similarity in them. See, you lose credibility when you try to act like that sad joke of a human is a major player in the Republican party. Oh wait, she is, that IS a joke and why no one can take you seriously. Hell Sarah Palin makes Joe Biden look smart……..

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
8:58 am

Fox has never tried to say it is not a conservative outlet.

Fox claims to be “fair and balanced.” Fox claims “we report, you decide.”

barking frog

December 4th, 2012
8:58 am

“President” Petraeus as a General had no control overr his subordinates
(see McChrystal) was demoted for such by removal as Commander Central
Command and no control over his “little Man” as head of CIA. He openly
criticized the withdrawal date in Afghanistan set by the President and said
he would not comply with it. He should have been fired for insubordination.
He has been trumpeted for VP and President by the abovementioned
schemers for their own purposes. He should be allowed to go in peace
and forgotten as soon as possible. Fox should be considered the Enquirer
on steroids.

Morality?

December 4th, 2012
8:58 am

President Petraeus? – NO

Fred ™

December 4th, 2012
8:59 am

Kramer

December 4th, 2012
8:53 am

Bill Clinton as President? Bookman liked it. You taking on Fox News Bookman is a joke. 100 times more people watch their programming at 3:00 am then read your sh*t on a daily basis. Plus they trust FNC more then you and that really pi**es you off doesn’t it?
++++++++++++++++++++

So using your “philosophy” we should all eat cow sht because a trillion flies world wide couldn’t be wrong……..

About the reasoning skills one has come to expect from a FOXBOT……..

stands for decibels

December 4th, 2012
9:00 am

Fred @ 8.57, Joe Biden IS smart.

For the record.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

December 4th, 2012
9:00 am

parrot – “Fox has never tried to say it is not a conservative outlet. But the so called mainstream media (ABC, NBC, MS-NBC…) likes to pretend it is “fair” … when it is totally biased.
Which is worse, the con says it is a con… or the liar pretending to be something it totally is not.
That is not a question for you (USinUK)… because you are beyond hope of being objective.”

so says the guy who doesn’t QUIIIIITE understand marginal tax rates but calls other people idiots when they point out that his math doesn’t add up.

And, again – I have no problem saying this until I’m blue in the face (and it looks like I’m going to need to) – I don’t care if FOX continues to broadcast, as long as they adhere to ETHICAL AND JOURNALISTIC STANDARDS.

financing a candidate’s campaign and serving as his communications organ AIN’T EITHER.