Bromance, not Benghazi, may explain Rice’s predicament
UN Ambassador Susan Rice
According to U.S. Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., and a few others, harsh Republican criticism of UN Ambassador Susan Rice has been motivated by racism and sexism, not by any role she might have played regarding the attacks on our consulate in Benghazi.
The editorial board of the Washington Post recently made a similar suggestion, noting that 97 House members have taken the very rare step of sending a letter to the president opposing a possible Rice nomination to replace Hillary Clinton as secretary of state. (The House, remember, has no constitutional role in the confirmation of Cabinet nominees.) As the Post pointed out, “more than 80 of the signatories are white males, and nearly half are from states of the former Confederacy.”
Personally, I think that explanation is far-fetched at best. There’s no evidence whatsoever that racism is involved, and making such a serious charge without evidence to support it is simply wrong.
That said, however, I can see how Clyburn and others could have come to that conclusion. There is no logical, rational explanation for the intensity of the criticism directed at Rice, who as UN ambassador had no operational responsibility for Benghazi and was only serving as an administration spokesperson on the topic. At best, she was a bit player in that tragedy. And with no logical, rational explanation available, it is only natural to turn to the illogical and irrational for an explanation. Thus, the racism charge.
Again, I think the charge is false. But racism also would help to explain why almost no Republican criticism has been directed at Clinton herself, the person who actually runs the State Department and is responsible for what happens at our embassies and consulates. As secretary, Clinton is also responsible for what Rice was told to say publicly about Benghazi. Yet it’s Rice, not Clinton, who has become the target of criticism.
In recent days, however, another possible if convoluted explanation has begun to emerge. The political attacks on Rice have been led by U.S. Sen. John McCain, who has made it no secret that he would prefer that fellow senator John Kerry be named our next secretary of State. In fact, while taking part in a press conference today, McCain jokingly referred to Kerry as “Mr. Secretary” instead of as senator. (Upon taking the microphone from McCain, a wry Kerry responded “Thank you very much, Mr. President.”)
That’s where things get interesting. If Kerry does become our next secretary of state, he would have to leave the Senate, leaving an open seat in Massachusetts. Scott Brown, recently defeated by Elizabeth Warren, would be perfectly positioned to run in a special election to replace Kerry.
And Brown, it turns out, is a particular favorite of McCain. The Arizona Republican serves with Brown on the Senate Armed Services Committee and took part in ceremonies last summer when Brown, a member of the Massachusetts National Guard, was promoted to colonel. Campaigning for Brown in October, McCain said “this man is the one I want most in the United States Senate.”
In most cases, the simplest explanation is also the most accurate, but in this case there is no simple explanation for McCain’s behavior. The notion that by vilifying Rice and elevating Kerry, McCain might be trying to help Brown return to the Senate makes more sense than anything else I’ve heard, including the racism angle.
– Jay BookmanI
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Tom Middleton
December 3rd, 2012
4:17 pm
Jay, know how to tell a bad grammar school teacher? He can’t get in a room full of adults without thinking he’s in charge!
Paul
December 3rd, 2012
4:17 pm
Georgia
“The acting CIA director and Hillary put the talking points together.”
You know this fact, how?
You know what the Right and Fox will call you if you don’t have an unimpeachable source, don’t you?
“Liar.”
alex
December 3rd, 2012
4:17 pm
You, think Clyburn may have ANY bias? Ya think..Naw, couldn’t, a liberal democrat…..naw…
Jay, I accept wholeheartedly your correction of my Holbrook statement.
@St. Simmon, “male Model”..what? ……Yep, that helped him against the “school marm”….
josef
December 3rd, 2012
4:19 pm
IMAM
If you want to keep going there, fine…that “honor of the Confederacy” is just a silly cheap shot and you know it. It was NOT the most important issue raised in the discussion and that was my point to begin with, you twit. That type of horse sh*t served no useful purpose whatsoever. Just like I said in the beginning, what the h3ll does that have to do with the price of eggs. Confront it head on? Yes, The Post was reducing their argument to the latest quip for insult purposes, whether it fits the discussion or not…all the rest of what they were saying went out the window like a smelly f*rt…
But, like Unmentionables said, “you know better than to go there with them,. They lack the mental acuity to understand, and you lack the patience and tolerance to discuss it with them, Some things are best kept intra nostra.”
Paul
December 3rd, 2012
4:19 pm
Georgia
Or… was your post sarcasm?
TaxPayer
December 3rd, 2012
4:20 pm
No, the most important question that needs to be asked and answered is why conservative outlets are so quick to make up things, and why conservatives continue to believe them even after they’ve been exposed as facts.
Well it’s not like cons can rely on truth to further their agenda.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
December 3rd, 2012
4:20 pm
Jannie
First off, you need remind NO ONE that 4 Americans were killed.
Each of us feel their loss.
Second, the film maker broke the law. Do you support law breaking and parole violation?
Third….do the words ongoing investigation mean ANYTHING to you?
DownInAlbany
December 3rd, 2012
4:21 pm
Jay
December 3rd, 2012
4:05 pm
” The most important question that needs to be asked and answered is, “Who gave the order to ’stand down’ at Benghazi?”
That’s easy: NOBODY.
No such order was given. Like the rest of that particular Fox report — including the claim that US special forces were ready and waiting in Italy — it never happened.
The Pentagon, for example, has made it clear that those alleged special forces units didn’t even arrive in Italy until many hours after the attacks had ended, and that the closest AC-130 gunships were 2,500 miles away in Afghanistan.
No, the most important question that needs to be asked and answered is why conservative outlets are so quick to make up things, and why conservatives continue to believe them even after they’ve been exposed
There was a drone (unarmed, I suppose) over Benghazi that fateful night, but, you believe that we didn’t have the resources in place to fight back? Not even an armed drone that Obama seems to be so fond of? OoooKkkk Is there not even a speck of doubt in your mind that this administration (Obama, Rice, Clinton, CIA, FBI) has been less than transparent on this issue?
curious
December 3rd, 2012
4:21 pm
Would Limbaugh, Hannity and Boortz support the nomination of John (the Poodle) Kerry for SOS?
MANGLER
December 3rd, 2012
4:22 pm
Actually, right now, there is an article on fox news’ website titled “Another Benghazi?” It would almost be funny if it weren’t so … fox
josef
December 3rd, 2012
4:22 pm
BROSEPHUS
I missed it…the Fred Rule? If it’s named for him…fill me in…
TaxPayer
December 3rd, 2012
4:22 pm
They lack the mental acuity to understand, and you lack the patience and tolerance to discuss it with them, Some things are best kept intra nostra.”
Yet you persist. Tis there a flaw in that reasoning perhaps.
JohnnyReb
December 3rd, 2012
4:22 pm
Jay, you are correct on the no racisim thing, but lose sight of the ball after that.
Republicans look harshly on Rice because she was an accomplice in crime and the spokesperson in the cover up.
What cover up Moonbats ask? The one where Obama was campaiging days before the election to have decimated Al Qaeda. An Al Qaeda attack that killed a diplomat did not fit the bragging.
Rice in her current position is privy to top secret information. She also is highly educated and did not rise to prominence by being stupid. She knew it had nothing to do with the video. She prostituted herself for Obama just before the election. She does not deserve a pass so her supporters pull out every trick in the book trying to save her.
Fly-On-The-Wall
December 3rd, 2012
4:23 pm
What amazes me after the election is that the Republicans are acting like nothing happened. The ‘cliff’ and Bengazhi are prime examples. No change whatsoever in their attitudes or language. I guess they think if they ignore it long enough then it will go away.
DownInAlbany
December 3rd, 2012
4:24 pm
Erwin’s cat
December 3rd, 2012
4:11 pm
No, the most important question that needs to be asked and answered is why conservative outlets are so quick to make up things, and why conservatives continue to believe them even after they’ve been exposed as facts.
didn’t you do a blog that unequivocally identified the disaster in a Benghazi as just a demonstration and NOT a terror attack?…Do any of “us” really know what the “facts” are?
Yeah, and he also wrote about the honesty of Petreus and then Obama contradicted the General. Who’s the liar, now?
TaxPayer
December 3rd, 2012
4:26 pm
What amazes me after the election is that the Republicans are acting like nothing happened.
Well they did check their polls to confirm rather than simply assume that nothing changed.
josef
December 3rd, 2012
4:26 pm
TAXI
“Yet you persist. Tis there a flaw in that reasoning perhaps.”
What can I say? I’m a slow learner!
stands for decibels
December 3rd, 2012
4:26 pm
hmm. “Butthurt-Over-Benghazi Brigade” is kind of a mouthful and a pain to type…
She knew it had nothing to do with the video
Would it make more sense to refer to J-Reb and crew as “Youtubers”?
Peadawg
December 3rd, 2012
4:27 pm
“Again, I think the charge is false. But”
Is that like when people start a sentence with “I’m not racist, but…” or “I’m not homophobic, but…”?
Regnad Kcin
December 3rd, 2012
4:28 pm
“I missed it…the Fred Rule?”
See if you can guess the word that must not be uttered…
Paul
December 3rd, 2012
4:28 pm
JohnnyReb
” The one where Obama was campaiging days before the election to have decimated Al Qaeda. An Al Qaeda attack that killed a diplomat did not fit the bragging.”
After the Axis surrender, some German and Japanese forces launched attacks against the Americans.
Were Eisenhower and MacArthur lying when they said the Germans and Japanese were defeated?
TaxPayer
December 3rd, 2012
4:29 pm
I think the last I checked Republican polls, Mitt was still leading Obama.
Georgia
December 3rd, 2012
4:29 pm
Who gave the order to stand down? That’s easy. Rush Limbaugh. He’s the one who suggested it in the first place and he’s had a whole month to prove it. Hes got nothing. I remember when rush first mentioned the order to stand down. We do know that rush takes pills. Pschoactive drugs. We all know it. Who gave the order to stand down?
Aquagirl
December 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
There was a drone (unarmed, I suppose) over Benghazi that fateful night, but, you believe that we didn’t have the resources in place to fight back? Not even an armed drone that Obama seems to be so fond of? OoooKkkk
Just because you and every other con is the self-appointed Armchair General of Drone Capabilities doesn’t mean you know jack crap.
Go back to playing Call of Duty or whatever else gives your Barcolounger-spreading butt the idea you’re qualified to deploy military assets. Nobody owes you an explanation as to what capabilities we have or what we know because that places the actual people there in danger.
If you are too lazy/chicken to go fight, at least don’t endanger the people willing to do the real work.
Jay
December 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
Albany, there were two drones overhead that night; the second came in relief of the first. Both had to be reassigned from elsewhere; neither was armed. The Pentagon says they had no armed drones within reach.
Is it possible that we’re being misled on this? Of course. But there is no evidence of it.
And as a rule, uniformed officers will not publicly lie to provide political coverage to their civilian bosses, just as they will not take sides against their civilian bosses either. They may lie on national security grounds, or to protect their own butts, etc., but not for partisan political reasons. And if uniformed officers WERE lying to cover Obama’s rear end, the word would almost certainly leak out, because hundreds of people in the Pentagon know what forces were available and where that night, and military officials would be angry that force was available but nothing was done.
Their silence is confirmation that such intervention was not feasible.
Paul
December 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
josef
Azza nice hat you have there -
Erwin's cat
December 3rd, 2012
4:31 pm
Jay – No
oh that’s right…it was the drone attack on the wedding in Illinois…j/k
josef
December 3rd, 2012
4:31 pm
JohnnyReb
Just being EOI here, but was she not trotted out, according to the memo, as the spokeswoman FOR the administration? Not so much unlike, say Colin Powell or Connie Rice for the Bush administration? You don’t bite the hand that feeds you and you step and fetchit under orders as it were.
Now, as far as “all that” and Benghazi is concerned, passing too harsh a judgment on real time actions with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight is not a particularly sensible approach in my foolish, knee jerk opinion…
Krystal'sBalls
December 3rd, 2012
4:31 pm
Personally, I think John McCain is a closet “Queen”. #1 – he never could seem to keep from swinging from Patreaus’s nads the entire time he was running for President. #2 – Always running around with Lindsay Graham on his hip like they are the bopsy twins or something (how YOU doin’ Lindsay?) #3 – Now this Scott Brown/John Kerry thing. Mannnn puhlleeeeaasssee!!
On another note, while it really burns peoples’ asses to have to deal with the “race card” all the time, unfortunately it is a part of the U.S. (and really human) fabric. I guess it’s a bit painful to dissect something methodically and all that remains when you perform the side by side reasoned analysis is – race.
Tom Middleton
December 3rd, 2012
4:32 pm
Jay, I’m the great-grandson of a Confederate veteran buried in Newbern, Alabama, just outside of Greensboro, and what you said didn’t offended me at all.
oops
December 3rd, 2012
4:32 pm
“In most cases, the simplest explanation is also the most accurate, but in this case there is no simple explanation for McCain’s behavior. The notion that by vilifying Rice and elevating Kerry, McCain might be trying to help Brown return to the Senate makes more sense than anything else I’ve heard, including the racism angle.”
silliness.
where is Jay’s tin foil hat?
I’m sure susan collins and all the rest are just purely motivated to get Scott Brown back in office….. and so they’ll say anything, just anything, to get him back in. right?
how absurd.
here’s the reality: there was a major national security failure; it was an opportunity to really cream the campaigning president; Rice took away that opportunity through some well crafted spin; Republicans lost the election and are hacked off that they may have lost in part from campaign spin; and some people also think the next person in the SOS seat shouldn’t be willing to say just anything to the American public purely to get the president re-elected
JamVet
December 3rd, 2012
4:34 pm
curious, of course not. They are all swiftboating pieces of ____.
Or to paraphrase Paine, they are summer soldiers and sunshine patriots who, in any crisis, shrank from the service of their country…
St Simons - aboriginal BOOTAKOOK 2014
December 3rd, 2012
4:35 pm
oh well
josef
December 3rd, 2012
4:35 pm
JAY
@ 4:30
“Their silence is confirmation that such intervention was not feasible”
Yes. I have yet to hear any of the nyanh-nyanh crowd come up with anything that was feasible in real time…
curious
December 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm
Republicans not conceding the election until every vote has been counted. When they are counted they still won’t believe it.
Heck, probably 50% of the Republicans in Congress believe
1- The world is no more than 6,000 years old.
2- Global warming isn’t happening (tell that to the Polar bears).
3- Rape is a gift from GOD (women are so lucky and if you haven’t been, you need to get right with GOD).
4- the Moon walk was a hoax (filmed at some studio in the desert).
5- The Earth is flat.
6- The UN is going to take over the country (where are those black helicopters?).
7- Obama is going to take our Guns.
They have a full plate of issues to discuss after they make sure Romney gets some more tax breaks.
TaxPayer
December 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm
See if you can guess the word that must not be uttered
N is not needed,
A is for Apple,
S is for Sauce,
C is the wrong letter but
A works to make another word when
R follows and then all you need is a
H and an
A and a
T Yep. That’s all folks.
What’s wrong with NASCAR HATS!
Thulsa Doom
December 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm
Well now the Fred rule may have gotten rid of one certain word but not another. Ya’ll libs is a bunch of assclowns!
DownInAlbany
December 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm
Aquagirl
December 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
There was a drone (unarmed, I suppose) over Benghazi that fateful night, but, you believe that we didn’t have the resources in place to fight back? Not even an armed drone that Obama seems to be so fond of? OoooKkkk
Just because you and every other con is the self-appointed Armchair General of Drone Capabilities doesn’t mean you know jack crap.
Go back to playing Call of Duty or whatever else gives your Barcolounger-spreading butt the idea you’re qualified to deploy military assets. Nobody owes you an explanation as to what capabilities we have or what we know because that places the actual people there in danger.
If you are too lazy/chicken to go fight, at least don’t endanger the people willing to do the real work.
Don’t bring an opinion or ask a question on this blog or Aquagirl will get you! Sheesh
oops
December 3rd, 2012
4:39 pm
let’s follow this deviant logic of Jay’s.
First, Obama would have to pick Kerry instead of Rice. (probability unknown, but less than 50%)
Second, Scott Brown would have to run (probability 90%)
Third, Scott Brown would have to beat any other Republican contestants (estimate 60% chance)
Fourth, Scott Brown would have to win again in MA without the Tea Party / Obamacare revolt winds at his back. (probability, 35%)
Grand total compound probability: 9.5% chance +/- scott brown ends up back in the senate
Republicans aren’t stupid, and Brown isn’t the reason they’re beating up on Rice
Go fish
Paul
December 3rd, 2012
4:40 pm
josef
” I have yet to hear any of the nyanh-nyanh crowd come up with anything that was feasible in real time…”
You do miss a lot while you’re at work.
There was a SEAL team in a circling C-5 ready to do a HALO drop.
There was another SEAL team in a sub lying just offshore.
There was a Predator armed with Hellfire missiles overhead and several lined up on a nearby runway, just ready to take off.
There was an AC-130 gunship 10 minutes away with a full fuel and ammo load.
There was a Marine Amphibious Unit ready to load into their landing craft ans Ospreys.
And when Our President got a direct call from one of the contractors on the ground at the consulate, the President told him to stand down then gave the order to pull back all our military forces and let our people die.
At least, that’s what the people in the know are sayin’.
bob
December 3rd, 2012
4:41 pm
Rice and the rest are telling the truth, they felt the events occurred because of a video. That’s the sad part, most everyone knew it was not about a video from day one but Obama thought it was about the video for 17 days.
Bob Wallace
December 3rd, 2012
4:44 pm
Everybody’s got an angle.
josef
December 3rd, 2012
4:45 pm
PAUL
I obviously have missed a lot…
Erwin's cat
December 3rd, 2012
4:46 pm
DownInAlbany – Don’t bring an opinion or ask a question on this blog or Aquagirl will get you! Sheesh
you just need to know her Kryptonite
barking frog
December 3rd, 2012
4:46 pm
Of course it’s about race. Of course it;s about politics and somewhere under
there it’s about money. This is the USA a good portion of which almost
kicked the ass of the other portion and it is still about that too.
curious
December 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
The entire 101st Airborne Division was prepared to jump in 15 minutes after the attack began.
DownInAlbany
December 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
Erwin’s cat
December 3rd, 2012
4:46 pm
DownInAlbany – Don’t bring an opinion or ask a question on this blog or Aquagirl will get you! Sheesh
you just need to know her Kryptonite
Pray tell!
TM
December 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
I guess when Jay criticized the other Rice about WMD he was just one of those racist columnist from that paper that covers Dixie like the dew.
JohnnyReb
December 3rd, 2012
4:48 pm
hello josef, and best wishes.
I beg to differ. Obama himself stated “he” sent her to the talk shows to speak for the administration.
That’s OK, but when what she says deliberately misleads the people there has to be questions. It really comes down to being willing to accept our UN Ambassador did not tell the truth when addressing the people. I say no, and she has climbed the ladder as far as she is to go.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 3rd, 2012
4:48 pm
That’s the sad part, most everyone knew it was not about a video from day one
Amazing how many are privity to the intelligence and information of events in other countries. They “know” things….. just as they “KNOW” Obama was not born in the US
Erwin's cat
December 3rd, 2012
4:48 pm
DownInAlbany – One word…”the Hoff”
oops
December 3rd, 2012
4:48 pm
Cons issued cliff counter-offer a 1/2 hour ago
barking frog
December 3rd, 2012
4:49 pm
The only thing left unknown about the Benghazi consulate attack
is how useful it can be politically to both parties.
curious
December 3rd, 2012
4:49 pm
A lie would have been on the scale of “What attack?, they died in a car wreck”
Betty Haynes
December 3rd, 2012
4:49 pm
I certainly don’t have an angle Mr. Wallace. Good day.
Aquagirl
December 3rd, 2012
4:49 pm
Pray tell!
Erwin, I’m warning you…do it and they’ll never find your remains.
Thulsa Doom
December 3rd, 2012
4:51 pm
“Barcolounger-spreading butt”
Down in Albany,
Ya have to admit that is kinda funny. And to her credit Aquagirl did come up with Captain McBunny pants in reference to W. Even cons have to laugh about that one.
JohnnyReb
December 3rd, 2012
4:51 pm
Fly-On-The-Wall
December 3rd, 2012
4:23 pm
What amazes me after the election is that the Republicans are acting like nothing happened. The ‘cliff’ and Bengazhi are prime examples. No change whatsoever in their attitudes or language. I guess they think if they ignore it long enough then it will go away.
____________________
The answer is – the election was a battle. Not the war. Many on the Left are acting, speaking and writing like they won the war. What’s disappointing is some Republicans are acting the same.
Obuma math...
December 3rd, 2012
4:51 pm
…Republicans say the plan, using the Obama administration’s math, would achieve $4.6 trillion in savings.
But the Dems have not responded yet, though the Repubs are only claiming $2.2tril in savings…
RW-(the original)
December 3rd, 2012
4:52 pm
But, like Unmentionables said, “you know better than to go there with them,. They lack the mental acuity to understand, and you lack the patience and tolerance to discuss it with them, Some things are best kept intra nostra.”
I love that one and am inclined to borrow it. Can I shorten it and just say, “I know this is my problem but I just don’t have the patience to explain to you how dumb you are?”
ptm4936
December 3rd, 2012
4:53 pm
Jay Bookman would not recognize logical or rational if they were standing next to him. Logical and rational are the purview of those who deal in facts, not the race pimps and liberals who lean on emotion in the absence of facts.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
December 3rd, 2012
4:53 pm
Just curious, is she gay? Libs, no hidden agenda here, just a question? Do not make a big deal out of it?
Paul
December 3rd, 2012
4:55 pm
JohnnyReb
“That’s OK, but when what she says deliberately misleads the people there has to be questions.”
Did Ambassador Rice ever say anything along the lines of “according to what we know now” or “our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present,” or ‘we believe” or ” I think it’s clear that there were extremist elements that joined in and escalated the violence. Whether they were al Qaeda affiliates, whether they were Libyan-based extremists or al Qaeda itself I think is one of the things we’ll have to determine.”
Did she ever say anything like that?
Thulsa Doom
December 3rd, 2012
4:55 pm
TM,
It depends. Its blatant racism when a con questions a black Democrat. When a lib questions a black Republican they’re really just calling out that shameful uncle Tom who had it coming anyway.
Doggone/GA
December 3rd, 2012
4:56 pm
“It really comes down to being willing to accept our UN Ambassador did not tell the truth when addressing the people”
There’s a big difference between knowing somethings a lie before you say it – does “mushroom could” ring any bells? And finding out afterwards that what you said was accurate based on the information you had at the time, but that turned out not to be 100% correct as more information became available.
josef
December 3rd, 2012
4:57 pm
RW
At the risk of riling the sleeping dog, but Unmentionable says, “yeah, that’s it!”
getalife
December 3rd, 2012
4:57 pm
josef,
If the intel report is correct, siran gas shells are ready to use.
RW-(the original)
December 3rd, 2012
4:58 pm
Since Kerry would be fairly sure to be tapped SecDef if State didn’t happen the idea that McCain wanted to clear the deck for Brown makes no sense.
Simple Truths
December 3rd, 2012
4:58 pm
Jay is going for the tin foil hat, kook theories now…
Aquagirl
December 3rd, 2012
4:58 pm
Just curious, is she gay? Libs, no hidden agenda here, just a question?
Hey, I’m just curious, what sexual positions does your wife prefer?
Paul
December 3rd, 2012
5:00 pm
getalife
If chem weapons are deployed, we’re gonna get sucked in, I’m afraid.
That Sarin is nasty stuff.
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/sarin/basics/facts.asp
DownInAlbany
December 3rd, 2012
5:00 pm
Paul
December 3rd, 2012
4:55 pm
JohnnyReb
“That’s OK, but when what she says deliberately misleads the people there has to be questions.”
Did Ambassador Rice ever say anything along the lines of “according to what we know now” or “our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present,” or ‘we believe” or ” I think it’s clear that there were extremist elements that joined in and escalated the violence. Whether they were al Qaeda affiliates, whether they were Libyan-based extremists or al Qaeda itself I think is one of the things we’ll have to determine.”
Did she ever say anything like that?
Not J Reb, but, yes, she did….
“Our current best assessment, based on the information we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous–not a premeditated–response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.” Susan Rice, September 16, 2012
getalife
December 3rd, 2012
5:01 pm
President Obama warns assad not to use them or there will consequences ( bombing the crap out of him).
TM
December 3rd, 2012
5:01 pm
You guys need to get over this Benghazi issue. The election is over, Obama has the spooks covering for him and Rice fell on the sword for her man. Watch, Obama will approve the Keystone pipeline before he leaves and Rice will make Buffett look like a middle income earner.
josef
December 3rd, 2012
5:02 pm
JohnnyReb
The point is that she was speaking FOR the administration. That’s the way the game is played. The electorate put the current administration back in to play their game. Why are we now out to make her the “fall guy?”
St Simons - aboriginal BOOTAKOOK 2014
December 3rd, 2012
5:02 pm
getalife – a new one –
speculabation
just say ‘it raises so many questionnnns’
then, off they go – boom-chicka-wow-wow
pogo
December 3rd, 2012
5:02 pm
hello josef. I see not much has changed here. Strangely, even after Obama was re-installed for another four it seems the level of vitrole is even worse than before coming from the liberals. Man, can’t they ever be satisfied? Of course, Jay does have that effect on people, doesn’t he? And he plays his little liberal puppets here to the hilt. For many of them Jay is their life. Without hate and division Jay would be flipping hamburgers somewhere(of course I have more respect for hamburger flippers than Jay as a journalist). At least they do their work without causing harm.
MANGLER
December 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm
“oops”,
You’re using math. Careful now, math is based on actual things. Your percentages are based off of, well … what are they based off of? Factiness? Truthisms? Ah, opinions and estimates. OK.
Tag
JohnnyReb
December 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm
Paul – she clearly stated the attack was due to the video. All the other plausisble denial double-speak is just part of the cover up.
MANGLER
December 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm
Aquagirl,
someone else’s Husband most likely.
Erwin's cat
December 3rd, 2012
5:05 pm
MANGLER – You’re using math. Careful now, math is based on actual things
yeah like imaginary numbers
JohnnyReb
December 3rd, 2012
5:05 pm
josef – because she knowingly lied to help Obama just before the election. She’s a foot soldier, not material for Secretary of State.
josef
December 3rd, 2012
5:06 pm
getalife, Paul
Is Assad willing to do that…?
Doggone/GA
December 3rd, 2012
5:06 pm
“Why are we now out to make her the “fall guy?””
Now? Seems to me this all started a long time before “now”
getalife
December 3rd, 2012
5:06 pm
I like it St Simmons.
pogo,
Good to see you too
josef
December 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
Question
Which country’s flag is that over Rice’s shoulder in the picture with thread?
Aquagirl
December 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
someone else’s Husband most likely.
I can’t believe I’ve been out-snarked. Heh.
Brosephus™
December 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
josef
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/12/03/a-technical-guide-to-cliff-jumping/?cp=all#comment-1164897
A.K.A. “The Fred Rule”
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Republicans look harshly on Rice because she was an accomplice in crime and the spokesperson in the cover up.
If that’s the explanation, no wonder the Republicans are easily destracted by shiny objects in the rearview mirror that are closer than they appear.
They look harshly on the accomplice but nary a damn peep about the principles.
Doggone/GA
December 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
“because she knowingly lied ”
got proof?
josef
December 3rd, 2012
5:08 pm
JohnnyReb
But, that’s her job…
getalife
December 3rd, 2012
5:09 pm
Oops St Simons.
josef,
I don’t know how desperate he is.
Erwin's cat
December 3rd, 2012
5:10 pm
Hey, I’m just curious, what sexual positions does your wife prefer?
I was gonna say “pulse”
josef
December 3rd, 2012
5:10 pm
BROSEPHUS
Thanks…I’ll have to remember that…
Aquagirl
December 3rd, 2012
5:13 pm
Which country’s flag is that over Rice’s shoulder in the picture with thread?
I think it’s the one across the Whatchamacallit Sea near Uz-beki-beki-stan-stan.
Erwin's cat
December 3rd, 2012
5:14 pm
Elbonia?
barking frog
December 3rd, 2012
5:14 pm
aquagirl
Hey, I’m just curious, what sexual positions does your wife prefer?
………………………………………………..
Missing Debbie Do Right?
josef
December 3rd, 2012
5:14 pm
getalife
He’s one scary mo-fo, all right. And, really, what does he stand to lose. He’s dead meat already, and those kind usually have no problem with taking everybody out with them,,,
Paul
December 3rd, 2012
5:23 pm
JohnnyReb
” she clearly stated the attack was due to the video. All the other plausisble denial double-speak is just part of the cover up.”
We sure don’t want to throw any cold water on any good conspiracy theories, do we?
It’s been asked before, but did you exhibit the same absolute sense of condemnation towards SecState Powell and National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice over their testimony on WMDs and nukes in Iraq?
Paul
December 3rd, 2012
5:24 pm
josef
“Is Assad willing to do that…?”
I’d say moving the components and readying them for deployment is a pretty serious indicator.
getalife
December 3rd, 2012
5:25 pm
josef,
He wants to be like Daddy and will probably use them.