‘Overtaxed’ Americans a politically useful myth
Earlier this week, an analysis by The New York Times confirmed once more a conclusion posted repeatedly on this blog:
Contrary to the popular image of Americans as overtaxed to within an inch of our economic lives, citizens of this country in almost every economic group pay a significantly smaller share of their income in taxes — state, local and federal — than they did 30 years ago.
The sole exception:
“Lower-income households, however, saved little or nothing. Many pay no federal income taxes, but they do pay a range of other levies, like federal payroll taxes, state sales taxes and local property taxes. Only about half of taxpaying households with incomes below $25,000 paid less in 2010.”
(An interactive and much more extensive version of the chart above is available here.)
Any honest analysis of our current financial situation must account for this basic, fundamental fact. By comparison with other major industrial countries, and by comparison with our own history, we are undertaxed not overtaxed. Politicians buy votes just as easily by promising endless and repeated tax cuts as by promising new spending programs, and after some three decades of such policies, we are shocked to find ourselves increasingly in debt?
– Jay Bookman
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Tundra Dude
December 2nd, 2012
8:49 am
I note that so many cry for spending cuts, JUST NOT ANY THAT AFFECT THEM!
BINGO!
Georgia
December 2nd, 2012
8:54 am
No, the dawgs and tide are equally matched. The coach lost this one, and he knows it. There’s nothin worse than a timeout burner with pleated pants.
RB from Gwinnett
December 2nd, 2012
9:08 am
Yea, well the people clamoring for a tax increase aren’t exactly asking for tax increases on themselves either, are they? I think we should just jump off this fiscal cliff together and everybody actually shares in the pain a little instead of this “screw the other guy” mentality we’re approaching this with. There is no more “we” in this country.
A $250K family
December 2nd, 2012
9:09 am
The declining tax burden on the bottom half of income earners is reflected in the increased progressivity of the tax code since Reagan. In 1980, the top 1% paid 19% of federal income taxes. In 2009, they paid 36.7%. The top 5% went from paying 36.8% of the tax pie to 58.6%. The bottom 50% (mainly those near the 50% mark) paid 7% of all income taxes in 1980. Now they are responsible for just 2.25%.
http://www.redstate.com/2012/11/27/the-lost-irony-in-the-tax-debate/
Doggone/GA
December 2nd, 2012
9:12 am
“Reagan. In 1980, the top 1% paid 19% of federal income taxes. In 2009, they paid 36.7%”
Now post the difference in how much of the country’s wealth they controlled in that time frame.
independent thinker
December 2nd, 2012
9:18 am
restoring tax cuts to those over $250,000 is just a minimal start to ending the asinine reign of King Grover and his rich sponsors. A few additional revenue boosters to end the deficit:
1. tax vulture capitalists who bankrupt companies and fire the workers or steqal their pensions at 75%
2. Tax companies that offshore operations and outsource at double the corporate rate on American Income.
3. Investors who invest in offshore tax havens to avoid taxes should pay triple the capital gains rate with jail time if they do not report the income.
4.Eliminate all diplomatic relations and aide to any country that supports abusive tax shelters for Americans and American Companies.
5. Tax at 75% all corporate bonuses to executives of companies that do not provide
minimal levels of benefits for their workers here or overseas.
6. close most of the 800 US military bases particularly in companies whose GDP is greater than ours . WW II is over. Over a hundred bases in Europe alone. Close all military golf courses.
7. Eliminate all tax credits except for retraining and social security.
Deficit solved
Fred ™
December 2nd, 2012
9:21 am
A $250K family
December 2nd, 2012
9:09 am
The declining tax burden on the bottom half of income earners is reflected in the increased progressivity of the tax code since Reagan. In 1980, the top 1% paid 19% of federal income taxes. In 2009, they paid 36.7%. The top 5% went from paying 36.8% of the tax pie to 58.6%. The bottom 50% (mainly those near the 50% mark) paid 7% of all income taxes in 1980. Now they are responsible for just 2.25%.
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You use a far right wing nutcase site as “proof” of your failed talkshow/FOXBOT lies? Really?
Give it up already, you mindless sheep are a dying breed. Learn to think for yourself and educate yourself. It won’t hurt too much……..
Fred ™
December 2nd, 2012
9:25 am
<i.Close all military golf courses.
Yeah just let them soldiers fight and die for you, screw them having any leisure time. Close the gyms too, those slugs don’t need to play basketball. Do any with the bands and the music halls where they have instruments for soldiers tro play. Do away with the hobby shops where they work on their cars. And while you are at it, cut their pay. How much do they need to go fight and die for their country,…………..
ASSHAT.
RB from Gwinnett
December 2nd, 2012
9:29 am
Fred, “Give it up already, you mindless sheep are a dying breed. Learn to think for yourself and educate yourself. ”
Somebody posts facts for you Fred, and your response is to accuse them of being “thoughts” produced by somebody else. Do you even know what a fact is, Fred? How about you dispute the facts presented if you disagree with them instead of your mindless attack of the poster with no referece to the facts presented?
clem
December 2nd, 2012
9:30 am
watching geithner and boehner this morning, timmy is almost full of ship as boehner
clem
December 2nd, 2012
9:34 am
independent thinker, isn’t amazing most of republ bloggers here not even close to top 2%, yet they do their masters bidding (overpaid talk show hosts, talking heads and corporate execs(can you say carlyfiorina and bobnardellli)). boehner was totally bs on his revenues offered and knows it.
RB from Gwinnett
December 2nd, 2012
9:34 am
Independent Thinker, I think you should send your list to the White House and see if you can get Obama to adopt all of those as his strategy. I’m sure he and his team there are always looking for a good laugh too.
Rightwing Troll
December 2nd, 2012
9:37 am
Don’t worry Fred, as soon as Obama closes out W’s wars, in a couple years the wingnuts will be advocating more cuts to the VA as well…
Brosephus™
December 2nd, 2012
9:40 am
The bottom 50% (mainly those near the 50% mark) paid 7% of all income taxes in 1980. Now they are responsible for just 2.25%.
Funny that conservatives whine about people not paying their fair share of fed income taxes, yet they never whine about the tax cuts passed by conservatives that reduces or eliminates tax liabilities for more and more Americans.
Road Scholar
December 2nd, 2012
9:42 am
The golf course closing comment is stupid. Remove that and add removing health insurance for the Congress as well as their health club. How much do they cost us? Let them join the rest of us on healthcare and workouts. Just how much do both programs cost? Heard the health club budgets are hidden in 10-20 different bills and budgets…make it one line item! Let them see what healthcare actually costs us!
Rightwing Troll
December 2nd, 2012
9:44 am
Raise the rates on the 2%, and in the unlikely event they actually create jobs, give that amount back in deductions or rebates. More jobs adds to the tax base thus offsetting the rebates and resulting in a net increase… if the jobs are real jobs.
Oscar
December 2nd, 2012
9:49 am
Don’t think I would raise taxes on those making between 250K and 500K. Start a new bracket for those over 500K and tax income over that amount at 40 per cent.
That would raise some additional revenue without hurting the economy.
And put a cap on deductions/loopholes. For one thing, we don’t need to subsidize million dollar houses.
Rightwing Troll
December 2nd, 2012
9:49 am
On a happier note I read yesterday that GE is actually repatriating manufacturing jobs back to kentucky… Maybe, soon, we can actually purchase appliances, and hopefully more items, that have the “Made in the USA” label on them again.
Rightwing Troll
December 2nd, 2012
9:53 am
As this recent election proved, the 2% have plenty of extra cash laying around so a small tax increase won’t hurt them. They stand more to lose if the economy crashes as a result of wingnut brinkmanship as a result of an unelected, unaccountable millionaire and his “non-profit’s” strong arm tactics… much more to lose…
Oscar
December 2nd, 2012
9:54 am
Wal-Mar is cutting back on health care benefits. Most of those cut will qualify for medicaid.
Best thing that could happen would be for all companies to cut health benefits and get out of the health care business.
Free market would be better than employer furnished health care.
guy
December 2nd, 2012
9:56 am
We will soon pay a good bit more in taxes but the sorry politicians will only spend it wrecklessly as they always do. Won’t cut spending overall! Jay,in the meantime you are welcome to go ahead and pay on the debt out of your pocket with a note saying,” I am not taxed enough so here it is.” You will be a great American liberal hero.
guy
December 2nd, 2012
9:57 am
Recklessly,not wrecklessly. Whew!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 2nd, 2012
9:58 am
BRO
Check this out..clever and should be considered..or at least I need to research..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ralph-nader-why-a-tax-on-stock-trades-should-be-part-of-a-fiscal-cliff-deal/2012/11/30/d6a1285e-3a38-11e2-8a97-363b0f9a0ab3_story.html?hpid=z2
Oscar
December 2nd, 2012
9:58 am
guy – shakes of Elmer Fudd. Chasing that wascally wabbit.
Oscar
December 2nd, 2012
10:00 am
Stevie – National sales tas?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 2nd, 2012
10:04 am
Rightwing Troll
December 2nd, 2012
9:53 am
Don’t disagree but there is a point of diminishing returns..laffer curve stuff..at some point, the taxes are such that we lose millionaires either by design or the typical attrition of those only temporarily in that particular club…those who sell businesses and the like.
How do we know any real cuts will be realized? Many of the revenue increases proposed have already been offset by more spending commitments…
Not a puzzle that can be solved by all or nothing Keynes or supply side theory…I think the idea of taxing stock trades per Nader has some merit to consider….would reduce the speculation in markets and incentivize traditional long term investments..
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
December 2nd, 2012
10:08 am
OSCAR
Like VAT? Seems that the rising number of those not eligible to pay taxes or otherwise get tax credits would see this as a tax…lets’ say it’s 5% on 50K salary…$2500 annually..that group would go nuts and BO would never agree on ideologic basis IMO…
Lets cut defense slowly over time by 20% and all other budgets by 10%…if we can’t find 10% leakage in all categories of spending we need to just shut DC down…
Oscar
December 2nd, 2012
10:18 am
Stevie,
VAT is a regressive tax and would not be accepted, so is a sales tax. Unless it only applies to luxary items or items above a certain price range.
Agree with those that say defense should be cut.
Don’t like cuts straight across the board. Some programs are more necessary and valuable than others. For instance, border protrol budget should be increased, not cut. We need someone to make decisions about what should or should not be cut.
Brosephus™
December 2nd, 2012
10:20 am
Stevie Ray
I can’t remember if it was Nader that I read it from, but when the derivatives market crashed, someone brought that up as a way to recoup losses from TARP and other stuff. One of the downsides that was brought up was the potential additional tax on the average person’s retirement because of trades made in pension funds or 401k funds. I think it would be an idea worth investigating.
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If any one of our regular angry bloggers just happen to go MIA this week, it may be time for us to pitch in for bail money.
BALTIMORE (AP) — A Baltimore blogger wanted on a court-issued warrant surrendered without incident to authorities late Saturday after broadcasting on Internet radio his negotiations with police who had surrounded his home.
Police said 47-year-old Frank James MacArthur emerged late Saturday evening. He had remained inside his home when law-enforcement officers sought at around 6 p.m. to serve a warrant issued in June for a probation violation stemming from a 2009 gun case. Authorities said MacArthur had missed a court hearing.
http://news.yahoo.com/baltimore-blogger-airs-police-talks-surrenders-044920089.html
Oscar
December 2nd, 2012
10:22 am
don’t disagree but there is a point of diminishing returns..laffer curve stuff..
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There is a point of diminishing returns. Not much good research on exactly where it is or how it works.
Don’t think a four per cent raise on incomes over 500K would create diminishing returns.
I can remember the fifties. Top bracket was 90 per cent. It enourages a lot of giving to charities and other ways to avoid tax. But if the top brackets starts high enough would not be counter productive. Say above 20 million per year.
Oscar
December 2nd, 2012
10:28 am
Bro – Be careful what you say on the blog. The FBI could be listening.
Sounds like a mental health issue. Problem is predicting who of these people will be dangerous.
Waco was busted by enforcing a gun warrant charge. Bad results.
Brosephus™
December 2nd, 2012
11:02 am
Be careful what you say on the blog. The FBI could be listening.
Then again, I could be listening.
In all seriousness, I’ve read up on the tracking and listening programs. If any agency wanted to talk to me, I don’t think they’d have a hard time tracking me down. Not only was Waco a gun issue, but Ruby Ridge was as well.
paulo977
December 2nd, 2012
11:09 am
Indigo ….”Students from the M. Agnes Jones Elementary school were shown on TV this morning decorating a Christmas tree at the governor’s mansion.
They were ALL black.” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Salute The Plantation way of thought in this day and age !!. And we DARE lecture the world on what it should be doing to encourage Equality etc etc etc etc ????
indigo
December 2nd, 2012
11:13 am
West Point’s Cadet Chapel has just hosted it’s first same-sex marriage.
America continues to self-destruct.
Our enemies in Russia and China look at us with disbelief. We’re handing them the world and they don’t have to even lift a finger.
Doggone/GA
December 2nd, 2012
11:21 am
“Our enemies in Russia and China look at us with disbelief”
the only disbelief *I* see is YOURS
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 2nd, 2012
11:22 am
Art Laffer on CNBC August 2006
-”The United States economy has never been in better shape!”
-”Monetary policy is spectacular!”
-”This economy…is working beautifully!”
Too funny!
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 2nd, 2012
11:46 am
Indigo
West Point Chapel is a beautiful place for a wedding.
What’s your point?
Brosephus™
December 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
Our enemies in Russia and China look at us with disbelief. We’re handing them the world and they don’t have to even lift a finger.
The last time I checked, the guidance systems of Tomahawks and other muntions were not affected by same sex marriage. I don’t think closeted gay military personnel has ever had an adverse effect on our military over it’s entire existence. Then again, maybe China and Russia knows things that we don’t know.
I’m almost certain that politicians and CEO’s have done far more damage to America when it comes to China than any two gay people getting married could ever do. That’s just my view though.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm
I thought our “enemies” were in disbelief when we integrated are armed forces? Or was it when we allowed interracial marriage? Or was it when we passed civil rights legislation? Or was it when we allowed women to vote? Or was it when we allowed them in the armed forces? I am so confused about when this self-destruct point was reached. Amazing how some give up on what truly makes this country great.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 2nd, 2012
12:01 pm
Bro
I sent an email to Jay and asked him to pass it along to you.
Need to arrange the details of a certain PA care package
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 2nd, 2012
12:03 pm
keep
A good friend once said this country was going to hell just because of allowing women to vote.
I guess he was a Republican
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 2nd, 2012
12:05 pm
The last time I checked, the guidance systems of Tomahawks and other muntions were not affected by same sex marriage.
I see that you are unfamiliar with gaydar.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm
Kam
Where is your little stalker today?
Still in a funk about Ga losing?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
Freakin’
Don’t know and don’t care.
As far a crush songs go, I prefer this from Atlanta’s own Jennifer Paige:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6evcaJJD-A
Jack ®
December 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
Obama intends to expand the welfare state. He said so. Obama intends for those not on welfare to pay the bills for those on welfare.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 2nd, 2012
12:19 pm
Jack
What do you consider as welfare? I am asking a serious question as to your definition
Fred ™
December 2nd, 2012
12:27 pm
RB from Gwinnett
December 2nd, 2012
9:29 am
Fred, “Give it up already, you mindless sheep are a dying breed. Learn to think for yourself and educate yourself. ”
Somebody posts facts for you Fred, and your response is to accuse them of being “thoughts” produced by somebody else. Do you even know what a fact is, Fred? How about you dispute the facts presented if you disagree with them instead of your mindless attack of the poster with no referece to the facts presented?
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Those weren’t “facts” sport, they were twisted talk radio bumper sticker lies. Only oyu FOXBOTS lack the sense to understand that. As I know thta i have personally debunked that crap to you, the fact you maintain your lies and losing “opinions” is very telling.
The bottom line is we need to raise taxes and cut spending. BOTH. We have tried to do each one separately and it doesn’t work. But then that “fact” you aren’t willing to accept, you just want to charge stupidly back into the failed fiscal policies of the past. That’s just insane and proves why it’s useless to “talk” to you.
Even when you are proven wrong you scream “Liberal main stream media, Benghazi, but but OBAMA is a Kenyan socialist, mission accomplished…….. with all the lunacy that you spew forth, rational discussion is not possible. I really doubt that rational thought is possible for you…….
getalife
December 2nd, 2012
12:28 pm
Jack,
He wants to cut corporate welfare but the gop vote no so the gop want a welfare state.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
December 2nd, 2012
12:32 pm
Well, nothing like getting rid of all your sins down at the Church of Holiness and starting a new week
so you can commit new onesfresh and clean. The Rev. Postlewaite droned on a little longer than I would like but I decided long ago he’ll never be a Rev. Jim Bob Buice so I might as well get use to it.Anyhow I see about half the people here want us to sock it to the rich folk while the other half want to leave those poor folk that earn half a million or a million bucks a year alone in their misery. Me, I’d just like to be miserable like them.
Anyhow, it’s about time to take the missus to Ryans and she’s all antsy to put on the feed bag. She says she’ll start on her diet again tomorrow.
Have a good Sabbath everybody.
Fred ™
December 2nd, 2012
12:34 pm
Common Sense isn’t very Common
December 2nd, 2012
12:03 pm
keep
A good friend once said this country was going to hell just because of allowing women to vote.
I guess he was a Republican
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No, he was a REALIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fred ™
December 2nd, 2012
12:36 pm
Jack ®
December 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
Obama intends to expand the welfare state. He said so. Obama intends for those not on welfare to pay the bills for those on welfare.
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Your hate will cause you to have ulcers. Let it go. Ease up on it. Back slowly away from Talk radio/Fox news and learn to live life without fear again………
Fred ™
December 2nd, 2012
12:38 pm
Are you in Georgia this weekend Kam?
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 2nd, 2012
12:40 pm
Fred
I think Kam is in that little hamlet in NC with his gaydar on
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 2nd, 2012
12:40 pm
Fred
Nah, I came up here yesterday. Did I read correctly that your friend’s drain clogged up again?
Fred ™
December 2nd, 2012
12:45 pm
Common: i saw that lol
Kam: Nope. It’s all fixed. I “fixed” his washing machine as well.
Dan O
December 2nd, 2012
12:47 pm
Let the cliff happen. Federal income tax rates go to where they used to be. The lower income folks who don’t pay federal income tax pay nothing more and the rest of us…frankly I was living very well during the Clinton tax years. Stifle job creation? Ha. That’s a laugh, there isn’t any now anyway; and somehow job creation worked just great during the Clinton years; if you didn’t like your job , you could just go around the corner and get a new one.
indigo
December 2nd, 2012
12:49 pm
Doggone/GA, Common Sense, Brosephus, Keep Up
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/14/AR2009041402704.html
But of course, in your wisdom, you know more than these flag officers.
Fred ™
December 2nd, 2012
12:53 pm
Who was indigo before he started trolling as indigo/ Does anyone know? LOL I wish Jay would out the alts……….
getalife
December 2nd, 2012
12:55 pm
indigo loves him some discrimination.
“and somehow job creation worked just great during the Clinton years; if you didn’t like your job , you could just go around the corner and get a new one.”
They gave away new cars to come to work.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
December 2nd, 2012
12:55 pm
Fred
Conventional wisdom: indigo was carlosgv
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 2nd, 2012
12:57 pm
Indigo, a cite to a 3 year old 2009 article and prior to the repeal of DADT and the subsequent events… yes I am sure that “wisdom” is just comprehensive evidence.
Oh wait, here is my evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5Dfs7jqFI
Doggone/GA
December 2nd, 2012
12:58 pm
“But of course, in your wisdom, you know more than these flag officers”
got it in one
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 2nd, 2012
1:00 pm
And an even more insidious plan: Harvard To Approve BDSM Sex Club Called Harvard College Munch
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
December 2nd, 2012
1:05 pm
I see that you are unfamiliar with gaydar.
Touché!!!
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
December 2nd, 2012
1:10 pm
indigo
I never claimed to know more than anybody. I’m just trying to understand your rationale in that post. We’ve had gays in the military for a long, long time. If Russia and China didn’t kick our ass then, what’s changed to enable that now? Are you saying that a gay person can’t pull a trigger or key a sequence to launch missiles in the same manner that a straight person does? Are you saying that a gay person doesn’t posses the ability to kill if needed?
getalife
December 2nd, 2012
1:16 pm
The gop counter offer is :
“McConnell told the Wall Street Journal on Friday that Republicans are seeking to raise to the Medicare age and modify Social Security. In return, they’d agree to an increase in tax revenue– but not from higher tax rates.”
Krugman called it what it is. Pathetic.
The gop will disband after they get crushed again 14.
Doggone/GA
December 2nd, 2012
1:21 pm
“The gop will disband after they get crushed again 14.”
And I don’t think they will. Given the nature of those in current control…if the more moderate Conservatives can’t get power back, then I think it’s more likely it will slowly fade away. “Die” more with a whimper than with a bang.
getalife
December 2nd, 2012
1:31 pm
I think a party refusing to listen to the majority of the American people is political suicide.
There is no future for the gop.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 2nd, 2012
1:42 pm
get, you are definitely wrong. Look they have Alan West, who compares himself to Lincoln because Lincoln also only served 1 term in Congress.
West apparently thinks his next step is to the WH. This is bound to be a unifier for the GOP…. perhaps West/Cain ticket or maybe West/Newt or West/Bachmann? 
Oscar
December 2nd, 2012
1:46 pm
I’m just trying to understand your rationale in that post.
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You think there was any rationale in that post. Boy are you an eternal optimist or what.
I read it and I don’t think there was a ghost of rational thought anywhere near that place.
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
December 2nd, 2012
1:48 pm
Oscar
Yeah, I try to see the positive in everything, even when there appears to be no positive at all.
barking frog
December 2nd, 2012
1:53 pm
brosephus 1:48
Are you positive?
St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014
December 2nd, 2012
1:57 pm
“McConnell told the Wall Street Journal on Friday that Republicans are seeking to raise to the Medicare age and modify Social Security. In return, they’d agree to an increase in tax revenue– but not from higher tax rates.”
I noticed that too, & so did many mainstream, even conservative dudes:
http://swampland.time.com/2012/11/30/fiscal-cliff-fictions-lets-all-agree-to-pretend-the-gop-isnt-full-of-it/
The jig’s up cons.
Its pretty easy. Listen to the People, cons or get wiped out.
Hillary and E Warren won’t have anybody to run against in ‘16 if u dont
getalife
December 2nd, 2012
1:58 pm
For the record, I don’t care what happens to the gop. I know they will stay the course because their core principle is to fight change at all costs..
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
December 2nd, 2012
1:59 pm
frog
Even when I’m negative, I’m always looking for positive outcome.
barking frog
December 2nd, 2012
2:02 pm
getalife
GOPers won’t accept change from a dollar.
getalife
December 2nd, 2012
2:04 pm
frog,
The call that chump change.
cons being the chumps.
barking frog
December 2nd, 2012
2:06 pm
BTW Congress is considering getting rid of the one dollar bill.
St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014
December 2nd, 2012
2:06 pm
“If Texas goes blue (by ignoring/insulting/degrading people of color), you
can’t get to 270 electoral votes. The Republican Party would cease
to exist. We would become like the Whig Party.”
–Ted Cruz, the “future of the Republican pahhty” & ultra-con
don’t listen to him – you’re doing just fine – Mitch the Turtle & Orange
Bankster-man are fiiiine statesmen, heheh
Doggone/GA
December 2nd, 2012
2:09 pm
“BTW Congress is considering getting rid of the one dollar bill”
Again. The last time they tried it, it was an resounding flop. And it will be again, if they actually go through with it.
getalife
December 2nd, 2012
2:13 pm
cruz is right.
The change to the dollar is “chump change” that does nothing.
barking frog
December 2nd, 2012
2:14 pm
Doggone/GA
The mint has millions of metal dollars that no onewill take off their hands.
Drop the paper dollar and they will be used and the metal dollars last much
longer. Also may issue metal 2 dollar coin. Canada has done this. 1 dollar
coin is the loon and 2 dollar coin is the toon. great sense of humor.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 2nd, 2012
2:14 pm
BTW Congress is considering getting rid of the one dollar bill
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How are they(congesscritters) going to pay for the strippers?
barking frog
December 2nd, 2012
2:16 pm
Common Sense
making it rain could be dangerous…
getalife
December 2nd, 2012
2:17 pm
common,
The stripper will have coin purses
Brosephus™
December 2nd, 2012
2:18 pm
making it rain could be dangerous…
barking frog
December 2nd, 2012
2:19 pm
getalife
that would be coin slots but don’t feed the one armed ones.
St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014
December 2nd, 2012
2:20 pm
3 more Fridays left in the Old Age.
adapt & come with us. or not. whateverrrr
barking frog
December 2nd, 2012
2:21 pm
brosephus
…for the strippers, but then they might shoot you if you throw
silver dollars at them.
Doggone/GA
December 2nd, 2012
2:22 pm
“Drop the paper dollar and they will be used and the metal dollars last much longer”
Yep, that’s what they said the last time. The reason “The mint has millions of metal dollars” is BECAUSE “no onewill take off their hands”
They weren’t liked, and weren’t used, the last time. They won’t be again. People just DON’T LIKE THEM.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 2nd, 2012
2:24 pm
frog
That coin slot may get you in more trouble than throwing the money
barking frog
December 2nd, 2012
2:24 pm
Doggone/GA
Last time they didn’t discontinue the paper dollars.
barking frog
December 2nd, 2012
2:25 pm
Common sense
that has been my experience…
Brosephus™
December 2nd, 2012
2:27 pm
frog
True. I’d suggest that you make it rain at The Cheetah instead of Magic City then.
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NoCom @ 2:24
Doggone/GA
December 2nd, 2012
2:27 pm
“Last time they didn’t discontinue the paper dollars”
And they won’t this time. Because the same reasons exist for not doing away with it. Just as a small example, EVERY vending machine in the country that takes dollars would have to have their coin handling machinery completely changed.
TaxPayer
December 2nd, 2012
2:28 pm
They should make a perforated dollar bill so those cheapskate cons can ask for change when they tip the strippers.
barking frog
December 2nd, 2012
2:29 pm
Machine vendors are pushing the dollar coin like before.
also in consideration dropping penny, nickle, dime.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 2nd, 2012
2:31 pm
Okay, y’all are late on the news. The $1 bill has been replaced, effective immediately. In order to comply with the new law, as the new Dollar Bill Czar, I am collecting the old bills. Send your old dollar bills to me immediately. And don’t forget to include the $12.95 processing and handling fee. I’ll ship your new $1 bill coins in 10-12 weeks
barking frog
December 2nd, 2012
2:32 pm
Not sure, but i think most vending machines can accept dollar coins.
getalife
December 2nd, 2012
2:33 pm
Keep,
You should advertize on fox like the gold vendors.