Will GOP live up to its charter-school promises?

Georgia Republicans are a little giddy — and understandably so — about how easily the controversial charter-school amendment to the state constitution passed last month. Their 17-point margin of victory suggests to them that they now have an education mandate that extends well beyond state-created publicly funded charter schools.

For example, the vote is already being cited as a reason to double an existing program that today diverts as much as $50 million in state tax money into private schools. The transfer occurs through a convoluted process that gives the state no ability to regulate those schools or to hold them accountable in any way. “There is a real taste for anything that promotes school choice in Georgia,” state Rep. Earl Ehrhart, R-Powder Springs, told the AJC. “Obviously voters said that loud and clear. I think the timing is right.”

Republicans are also pleased and a bit startled by the degree of support that charter schools found among black voters in Georgia. As Pulitzer-winning author and charter-school advocate Doug Blackmon points out on his website, counties with large black populations were more likely to support the charter amendment than the rest of Georgia, even though most black political and community leaders publicly opposed the measure.

“That includes DeKalb (54 percent African-American), where the amendment passed with 64 percent of the vote; and Fulton (43 percent African-American), where it was approved by 66 percent,” Blackmon notes, adding that in Clayton County, 71 percent of voters approved the measure.

For some of the state’s more far-sighted Republicans, numbers like that represent a long-sought opportunity. They now have reason to hope that charter schools and the larger issue of school choice will finally allow them to attract black voters to their party. And for a variety of reasons, I hope they prove to be right.

The increasingly race-defined political system in this state — with conservative white people huddling in the Republican Party and everyone else collecting in the Democratic Party — is not good for the GOP and not good for Georgia. Any honest effort to break that pattern has to be applauded.

However, for Georgia Republicans, the charter vote presents more than a political opportunity; it represents an obligation. They told black parents in Georgia that school choice will improve education for their children; they now have an obligation to try to make good on that promise. And frankly, the track record so far isn’t promising. For example, the private-school “scholarship” program championed by Ehrhart and others may march behind the “choice” banner, but it is essentially a tool by which politically influential middle-class and upper-class Georgians tap into taxpayer money to support their own kids’ private-school education.

The test will be interesting to watch. Will the out-of-state for-profit companies that poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into the pro-charter political campaign now open schools in more challenging urban communities, or will they be allowed to cherry-pick the easier to serve, more profitable communities? Will state officials aggressively intervene to shutter those charter schools that do not live up to the promises that have been made?

Or, like the “scholarship” program, will this become another means by which to separate “our children” from “their children”, and by doing so justify the distrust between black Georgians and the GOP?

– Jay Bookman

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stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
7:42 am

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
7:48 am

double an existing program that today diverts as much as $50 million in state tax money into private schools. The transfer occurs through a convoluted process that gives the state no ability to regulate those schools or to hold them accountable in any way

oh you nervous Nellie. What possible harm could come from unhinged GOP fundamentalists tossing $100 million at select schoolkids?

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
7:49 am

Also to, you BOOKMAN are the TRUE RACIST for bringing up race.

(might as well haul that old saw out bright and early.)

Atlanta Mom

November 30th, 2012
7:50 am

Jay,
I was under the impression that the limit for diverting taxes to private schools was already $100 million. No?

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 30th, 2012
7:51 am

SKOOL? SKOOL? The GOP Don’ like SKOOL!

Brosephus™

November 30th, 2012
7:51 am

The GOP will end up with egg on their faces. These things won’t do a damn thing to help education in Georgia, much less education in the Black Community. I want to see how they’re gonna spin things to blame Democrats for the epic failure they’re setting themselves up for.

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
7:52 am

Since Jay asked:

[L]ike the “scholarship” program, will this become another means by which to separate “our children” from “their children”, and by doing so justify the distrust between black Georgians and the GOP?

Yes.

(THBAEOSATSQ)

Look before I leap...

November 30th, 2012
7:55 am

After the voters handed him his @ss on a platter on T-SPLOST, Deal trotted out plan “B”.
We’ll soon find out his wife and a number of relatives and cronies will be on the boards of the corporations establishing charter schools in the state. Getting nice fat paychecks in the bargain.

Nathan Deal has found his pot of gold.

Georgia on my mind...

November 30th, 2012
7:57 am

will they be allowed to cherry-pick the easier to serve, more profitable communities?

_______

Yes it will. During the Republican takeover of this state, areas that generate large amounts of revenue have been allowed to break away from their county counterparts and form their own cities. Most of the areas have a very small minority population.Time will tell if and when these areas will be at the top of Governor Deal’s list in creating new Charter Schools. Georgia will pay a price for giving the Governor control with the tricky amendment.

globeflyer

November 30th, 2012
7:58 am

It’s pretty obvious that the public school situation is not going well in GA. It should be no surprise that areas with a large number of black residents support it. They know it’s weak and the school testing debacle only served to reinforce that notion. I applaud them for being able to see “around” their so-called leaders and demand more accountability. The best way for that group to “break the cycle” of low education, welfare, and incarceration is to improve their schools.

TaxPayer

November 30th, 2012
7:58 am

Again, I would like to thanks all the lottery players for their funding of my daughter’s Zell Miller scholarship.

As for any of you out there with high expectations of improved education for your children through tax dollar subsidized, for-profit Charter schools, you reap what you sow and that crop is never going to see the light of day if schools such as The University of Phoenix are any measure of “things to come”.

Look before I leap...

November 30th, 2012
7:58 am

Handing over $50M to folks for private schools sounds an awful lot like “free stuff”.
Only this time it is for free stuff for rich people.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 30th, 2012
7:59 am

Bible learnin’ for EVERYbuddy!!!

Jay

November 30th, 2012
8:00 am

Atlanta Mom, I don’t believe that to be the case.

JamVet

November 30th, 2012
8:01 am

The very, very, very slow to change GOP still sees American blacks and other minorities as adversaries, not allies.

And I suspect that this bureaucratic boondoggle of theirs will prove as productive as the Go Fish Campaign…

Look before I leap...

November 30th, 2012
8:01 am

“Bible learnin’ for EVERYbuddy!!!”

Don’t forget “Intelligent Design”

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
8:02 am

It’s pretty obvious that the public school situation is not going well in GA.

Cite please. Actual year-to-year metrics. For example, are public schoolers less likely to be literate than they were in years past? Are they more likely to drop out and become unemployable? Has there been some recent precipitous trend that forces our hand to dump millions of dollars into self-identifying fundamentalist GOPers’ hands?

Because if you are merely basing your observations on little titillating bits of local news items you’ve soaked in over the years, I will have to smite you.

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
8:07 am

I applaud them for being able to see “around” their so-called leaders

We’re with you all the way
Just across the bay”

Atlanta Mom

November 30th, 2012
8:08 am

Bad news Jay,
We’re both wrong.
“The Georgia tax credit scholarship program is more than a massive transfer of funds from public to private education – which, at an automatic $50 million per year increase, will reach $200 million next year, then $250 million, etc”
http://blogs.ajc.com/get-schooled-blog/2012/06/11/private-school-tax-credit-cheating-georgia-and-its-children/
Sonny really stuck it to the taxpayers of Georgia.

Jim Crow in the South still lives

November 30th, 2012
8:09 am

Southern Strategy redefined in the new Charter School Amendment which begins about 18:46 into the video…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ACS4PgDFA

alex

November 30th, 2012
8:14 am

Perhaps it is also an opportunity for parents of these children to truly step up and support their school. Teachers will tell you that parental involvement is extremely important, perhaps these white OR black parents who did vote for the measure were fed up with the public school responses to their concerns. Now thse parents will have a responsive school AND will have to continue their part in their child’s education.
It is interesting about the black response and proves that these parents are above the racial divide and want better education for their child regardless of wether it’s deemed a white/black issue by “journalists or their “community leaders”.Perhaps the ACPS system debacles have finally soured them on the sbility of their officials to provide a quality education for their children. perhaps this is just one step toward a better education for children who cannot afford private schools. As for me , I’ll forgoe the Whole food apples and leased lexus and other materials to send my children to private schools. Education is our priority.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 30th, 2012
8:18 am

“Don’t forget “Intelligent Design””

and this is what I think about that: http://cnx.org/content/m19363/latest/30.jpg

Peadawg

November 30th, 2012
8:22 am

“double an existing program that today diverts as much as $50 million in state tax money into private schools.”

Aaaaaand I stopped reading. If you want your kid to go to a PRIVATE school, pay for it yourself.

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 30th, 2012
8:22 am

Did someone open the flap on the charter school trojan horse?

RUN!

bookman parrot

November 30th, 2012
8:23 am

it is not raced defined “mr. race baiter jay”. it is just ideology based. i would assume people don’t wake up in the morning and look and see in the mirror that they are white or black and therefore they make their decision to be con or lib, based on what is looking back at them in the mirror. knock off your race b.s. jay

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 30th, 2012
8:24 am

Enter your comments here

Brosephus™

November 30th, 2012
8:26 am

It is interesting about the black response and proves that these parents are above the racial divide and want better education for their child regardless of wether it’s deemed a white/black issue by “journalists or their “community leaders”.

That’s not interesting. That simply shows that, if the GOP puts forth a competent and viable message, they will get votes. What’s going to be interesting is to see whether the GOP actually does anything to improve the status of education here in Georgia beyond swiping taxpayer dollars for their own kids’ private educations. The GOP is officially on the hook to substantially improve education now, and they’re gonna have to produce tangible results as opposed to blaming Democrats for their failures.

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
8:26 am

mr. race baiter jay

ha ha ha.

That’s Mister race MASTER baiter jay to you, parrot.

indigo

November 30th, 2012
8:28 am

The voting base for Georgia Republicans consists of hard core fundamentalist Christians. Republican politicians are “giddy” because now, they can see to it that school boards are packed with fundamentalists. Because there will be no way to hold these schools “accountable in any way”, they will emphasize teaching creationism, a 6,000 year old Earth, the absolute truth of The New Testament and the evils of science. This, incidentally, will greatly increase the number of their electorate in the fundamentalist black community.

So, to say Republicans are “pleased”, is an understatement.

JamVet

November 30th, 2012
8:31 am

it is not raced defined “mr. race baiter jay”. it is just ideology based.

In the case of southern, white, so-called conservatives, that is a distinction with no difference…

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
8:31 am

Sorry, I forgot to include the link with the last line of my post @ 7.49.

Mick

November 30th, 2012
8:32 am

**The test will be interesting to watch. Will the out-of-state for-profit companies that poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into the pro-charter political campaign now open schools in more challenging urban communities, or will they be allowed to cherry-pick the easier to serve, more profitable communities? Will state officials aggressively intervene to shutter those charter schools that do not live up to the promises that have been made?**

Unfortunately, you already know the answers, it’s all about dismantling public education and the rise of corporate educational mills. Georgia has leap frogged past florida and in this case, it’s all yours. We will be watching also…

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 30th, 2012
8:32 am

Can someone please now my 13 year old that Adam and Eve walked among the dinosaurs?

Please?

And that global warming is normal, never mind those disappearing ice shelves?

Thomas Heyward Jr

November 30th, 2012
8:32 am

It doesn’t matter if this legislation proves positive above even the wildest predictions, the wording on the ballot IS…………………….and will REMAIN…………a big effing black eye upon Brian Kemp and the entire Republican party.
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They proved that they are no less shady and corrupt than your average Democrat lawyer/legislator.
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You are sad and dishonest ………….Mr. Kemp.

Jay

November 30th, 2012
8:32 am

Atlanta Mom, according to the Ga. Dept of Revenue, the $50 million is correct: https://etax.dor.ga.gov/inctax/taxcredits/HB1133_Student_Scholarship_Tax_Credit_Program.pdf

Jay

November 30th, 2012
8:34 am

Mr. Heyward, Kemp had nothing to do with the wording in this case. Constitutional amendment wording is handled by a panel controlled by the governor, speaker and Senate president.

Morality?

November 30th, 2012
8:37 am

Obama – this is your “plan” to avert economic chaos and the fiscal cliff…… do nothing – a continuation of the last 4 years. You got what you voted for – NOTHING!

hamiltonAZ

November 30th, 2012
8:39 am

Rep. Erhart may find the big margin of victory for the charter amendment exciting. The private prison business will certainly benefit from an undereducated populace.
But we citizens should keep a watchful eye on our ‘choices’ If Florida is any guide, the charter fad will prove just another waste of taxpayer resourcces that should be targeted to reduce the nation leading dropout rate in Georgia. It is maddening that we know the correlation between middle school truancy and graduation rates, we know the cost of targeting these at risk students would be far less than is being siphoned off the system for ‘private’ charters, and we know that Georgia’s scores would be much, much higher if these problems were addressed and the political education theory du jour was tossed.

skipper

November 30th, 2012
8:41 am

APS is a shining example of why SOMETHING had to be done. It is a cluster that would make inner-city Detroit proud. There are some decent schools on the ouskirts, etc. but by and large, APS, with its incompetant board that PEOPLE ACTUALLY VOTED FOR is one of the reasons that something had to be done. Not a soul in the world would move to Atlanta to open a company and send their kids to one of the nightmares downtown. Time to do SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
8:41 am

59 minutes in…

Obama – this is your “plan” to avert economic chaos and the fiscal cliff…… do nothing

slipped in the very first off-topic anti-Obama post just under the wire!

Better not push it next time, or else Tinkerbell dies.

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
8:43 am

APS is a shining example of why SOMETHING had to be done.

my challenge posted @ 8.02 extends to you too, skipper.

alex

November 30th, 2012
8:43 am

@ Bro, It is interesting to me and fills me with the hope that these parents will continue to see thru the “race-baiting” the Repubs as only dedicated to the “lili whites”. Perhaps the parents have seen with their eyes the problems of the current system and their leaders have been unable to fix the issues. Let’s trust the parents, As for your later comment-agree with you 100%: with opportunity comes the responsibility..

See you at Aldis

@ Mick perhaps the problem is that the PUBLIC education in this state is inept and exists in name only for many of these children.

Simple Truths

November 30th, 2012
8:43 am

It looks like the amendment passed by higher margins in area where the schools are in the most trouble. Maybe that is the reason for the high margins, not the race angle Jay is applying.

Fred ™

November 30th, 2012
8:44 am

Morality?

November 30th, 2012
8:37 am

Obama – this is your “plan” to avert economic chaos and the fiscal cliff…… do nothing – a continuation of the last 4 years. You got what you voted for – NOTHING!
+++++++++++++++

more republican losers repeating the same lies that lost them the last elections…….

they will NEVER learn. Hell, this one can’t even stay on topic. He’s so ate up with the dumbass he just sees Jay’s name and starts auto repeating lies……..

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
8:44 am

The private prison business will certainly benefit from an undereducated populace.

why you make it sound as if we live in a kleptocracy or somethin’. That’s not what I learned in school.

Oscar

November 30th, 2012
8:45 am

In their infinite wisdom, the people of Georgia voted . . . – well, you know the rest.

N-GA (on the winning side 2 federal elections in a row!)

November 30th, 2012
8:47 am

I thought there was an active lawsuit challenging the wording of the “Amendment”. Has that been dropped or resolved?

Thomas Heyward Jr

November 30th, 2012
8:48 am

Jay

November 30th, 2012
8:34 am

Mr. Heyward, Kemp had nothing to do with the wording in this case. Constitutional amendment wording is handled by a panel controlled by the governor, speaker and Senate president.
—————————————————————————————————————-
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Apologize for him if you like.
Mr. Kemp might have had nothing to do with the wording, but he has EVERYTHING to do with a fair and accurate election. His integrity represents what is arguebly the most important position in State government…He could have resigned if he had any.
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black eye……………….imho
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Oscar

November 30th, 2012
8:51 am

Depends on whether you are referring to the public promises or the private promises.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

November 30th, 2012
8:52 am

Obama’s proposal per Geitner will result in decreased revenues…if history is any guide…

His opening salvo is not where the GOP wants to begin negotiations….we should go off the cliff which will force both sides to really compromise..

IMO the fact that Obama got re-elected doesn’t mean diddly to House GOP…

Mike

November 30th, 2012
8:54 am

Maybe the black voters who really care about their kids, but are stuck in bad public systems like Clayton or Dekalb, realize this is a way for them to get their children into a better situation?
In case you guys aren’t aware, public schools can be really bad.

hamiltonAZ

November 30th, 2012
8:55 am

For the unfortunate 33 some-odd percent that didn’t recieve targeted resources to keep them from dropping out before high school graduation, Kleptocracy means:
Government by those who seek chiefly status and personal gain at the expense of the governed.

Jay

November 30th, 2012
8:55 am

NGA, there is such a lawsuit. Its chances of success are very dim, based on previous Georgia Supreme Court rulings.

Oscar

November 30th, 2012
8:57 am

I there is “no way for the state to intervene” then how can the ” act aggressively to shut down those djarter schools that do not measure up to the promises that have been made?”

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 30th, 2012
8:59 am

“Aaaaaand I stopped reading. If you want your kid to go to a PRIVATE school, pay for it yourself.”

word.

Oscar

November 30th, 2012
8:59 am

Make that “no ability to regulate those schools or to hold them accountable in any way” instead of ?no way to intervene.”

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

November 30th, 2012
8:59 am

JAY

Couldn’t agree with your column more….I bet most who voted didn’t really understand the total implications of this “Deal”..

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 30th, 2012
9:00 am

“Maybe the black voters who really care about their kids, but are stuck in bad public systems like Clayton or Dekalb, realize this is a way for them to get their children into a better situation?”

gee.

that sounds like some of the “free stuff” your side is always deriding.

alex

November 30th, 2012
9:00 am

@ Stevie Ray, Agree; mabye twitter will solve it….I hope both sides get serious.

Oscar

November 30th, 2012
9:01 am

Proof reader wanted. Good pay and hours. Call 555-2424.

St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014

November 30th, 2012
9:02 am

“or will this become another means by which to separate “our children”
from “their children…”

oh, I don’t know, its da Ga “Deliverance-is-a-documentary” Republicans.
what do you think their angle is?
I sincerely hope this is a rhetorical question.

Bhorsoft

November 30th, 2012
9:03 am

So if I’m reading the GOP correctly, taxpayer dollars are OK for well to do white folks, but not for anyone else. Tax cuts for the rich, entitlement cuts for everyone else. Private school tax dollars for the rich, substandard schools for everyone else.

Elections Have Consequences

November 30th, 2012
9:05 am

“with conservative white people huddling in the Republican Party and everyone else collecting in the Democratic Party”

Stop it, please.

Oscar

November 30th, 2012
9:05 am

Bhorsoft – I believe you have read it correctly, down to a T.

Brosephus™

November 30th, 2012
9:05 am

Obama – this is your “plan” to avert economic chaos and the fiscal cliff…… do nothing – a continuation of the last 4 years. You got what you voted for – NOTHING!

And just what in the Sam Hell does that have to do with Georgia Charter Schools? Somebody’s ODS is flaring up today. Must have forgotten to take their meds this morning.

:lol:

hamiltonAZ

November 30th, 2012
9:05 am

“public schools can be really bad”

This point is well taken. but the bad ones are easily identified and, I believe there are not a large number of really bad ones. So, rather than take money from the system in a way that offers only the random chance that the bad school problem will be addressed, why not use that money to establish a targeted panel of apolitical educators and pass legislation that allows state takeover and individualized management of any school that fails over a specified time to meet certain criteria?
Why is this solution so hard? The answer is state and local politicians who prefer their own power to the betterment of education in this state.

alex

November 30th, 2012
9:06 am

many private schools give financial support for students of limited means, that is another option….

@ Jamvet, what’s your take on the U.N. vote?

Redneck Convert (R--and ;proud of it)

November 30th, 2012
9:06 am

Well, I’m glad Those People like the charter schools idea because we need one or two in every charter school to keep the feds off of our back. Long as they’re clean and kinda look and act White. The rest can just stay in the regular public schools. It don’t do no good to create charter schools if they’re going to get loaded up with a bunch of downtown thugs we don’t want our kids to be around they can’t be picky about who goes to them.

Anyhow, it’s Friday everybody and I’m out here hauling and lugging to try and get you ready for swapping weird music tonight. I feel like we got cheated out of some weird music swapping last Friday on account of the holiday and Bookman taking the whole long weekend off. Not to mention the hit my 401k hit because there wasn’t a big flood of Bookmanite music swappers headed to the stores to load up on beer.

Have a good Friday everybody.

St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014

November 30th, 2012
9:07 am

ALEC’s attempt to buy a re-write of history & curriculum.

So that our children is learning Jaysusss rode on a dinosaur 6000
yrs ago when the world began, to save the world from socialist
muslin teleprompters. For freedum. also, too. duh

Joe Hussein Mama

November 30th, 2012
9:08 am

indigo — “they can see to it that school boards are packed with fundamentalists. Because there will be no way to hold these schools “accountable in any way”, they will emphasize teaching creationism, a 6,000 year old Earth, the absolute truth of The New Testament and the evils of science.”

Don’t forget the teaching of faith-based mathematics. One needs a thorough grounding in that subject in order to be able to ‘unskew’ political polls.

alex

November 30th, 2012
9:09 am

@hamilton: it appears, by the cheating scandal, that the problem in Atlanta is so pervasive that your suggestion may require too many school closings and getting the legislation involved would take too much time,education in the south has been so poor, for so long..mabye people are fed up…

JamVet

November 30th, 2012
9:09 am

alex, I only saw a headline or two.

But a Palestinian state of some kind is probably the ONLY way to some sort of long term cessation of hostilities there.

And I suspect that the average Israeli and the other people in that part of the world are beyond sick of the ongoing bloodbath.

You?

Brosephus™

November 30th, 2012
9:12 am

alex: It is interesting to me and fills me with the hope that these parents will continue to see thru the “race-baiting” the Repubs as only dedicated to the “lili whites”.

If it’s true, then it’s true. I won’t say most or even half of the GOP are racist, but those who are open minded let the jackasses speak up for everyone. It makes those who don’t speak up guilty by association. That’s no different than me being a Democrat or Liberal here just because I’m Black. I know that, regardless to what I say or post, I’m guilty by association in the eyes of many here who can’t see beyond my race. What I don’t do, however, is let others here speak for me. I can’t say the same about those in the GOP who stay silent in the face of dumb sh*t.

Oscar

November 30th, 2012
9:13 am

Gaza and West Bank will never be one state. Gaza should become part of Egypt or its own state.
Three state solution. Or one state solution.

alex

November 30th, 2012
9:13 am

2 Jam: gotta read some more about it, but I’m with you , at some point-gotta change and move in a different direction. Will keep in reading and pull up some Israeli sites. It is intereting that in this area, and others, of the world-the young people are moving the political stick-my hope for Iran, especially.

Brosephus™

November 30th, 2012
9:14 am

Maybe the black voters who really care about their kids, but are stuck in bad public systems like Clayton or Dekalb, realize this is a way for them to get their children into a better situation?

Is this way the same way to a better situation as that whole “scholarship” program that has some of my tax dollars going to pay for some of Kip and Bunny’s private school tuition?

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 30th, 2012
9:14 am

Jay, what is your take on the possible change to the filibuster? I think it could come back and bite us because the Cons will gain power once again…..might be decades but it will happen.

alex

November 30th, 2012
9:16 am

@ Bro:agree.

Brosephus™

November 30th, 2012
9:16 am

USinner @ 9:00

Did the GOP win votes by promising “free” stuff??? Say it ain’t so…

Barry

November 30th, 2012
9:17 am

As a white Republican and a dad who has put his boys through private school with nothing at this point to gain or lose anyway.
I think this is the greatest thing to happen to the black community in 50 years and now the black parents who give a crap, can get their kids a great education, instead of a steady stream of public education, teaching them how to live off the system, instead of being the system.
This will be a blessing to them.

hamiltonAZ

November 30th, 2012
9:18 am

Atlanta’s public school system is a daunting problem. But the randomness of how money will be spent opening charter schools is no answer. There is no requirement that the charters be opened and geographically accessible to children of failing schools. Indeed, one of the most prominent charter school battles took place in a northern rim county where test scores in all of the high schools were high and overall the highest in the state. The money going to that charter is money NOT going to help the distressed situation in Atlanta or elsewhere.

alex

November 30th, 2012
9:18 am

Taking a page from “whose’ playbook….2nd down……yuk, yuk

TaxPayer

November 30th, 2012
9:18 am

Broun was selected to speak for other Republicans because he is one of their educated ones. :lol:

JamVet

November 30th, 2012
9:20 am

my hope for Iran, especially.

Yes, indeed, alex.

Let the young people there keep on keeping on. And hope that sex, drugs and rock and roll wins the day. (grin)

Lord knows, the last thing we should do is invade another country…

OK, gotta go see the vampires down at the VA, then…

Hi Ho, Hi Ho, It’s Off to Work I Go!

Have a great one, all.

Seeya later…

Oscar

November 30th, 2012
9:21 am

It is way past time to get rid of the filibuster in the Senate. The original idea of the filibuster was to delay a vote until all the members could get to the Senate. We no longer have that problem.
If fifty one senators want a bill passed it should be voted on and passed.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

November 30th, 2012
9:22 am

Brosephus™

November 30th, 2012
9:05 am

Guilty as charged..got frustrated reading the status of negotiations…

Somehow, regardless of family status, we need to get more kids graduating…this “Deal” won’t remotely address this issue IMO. Unless the number of charter schools that we are stuck with go primarily to schools with the lowest graduation rates…and that probably won’t help…teachers can’t substitute for parents…more trade schools will help…offering two tracks of schooling..college prep and vocational..

straitroad

November 30th, 2012
9:26 am

Although I disagree with the Charter School Amendment of funding private schools with public money, whether a child gets an education is ulitmately based on the decision of the parents. If education is a priority of the parent, then the child will do well and if it isn’t, then the child will suffer. I wish more leaders stressed responsibility instead of promising more stuff. We would be much better off.

Welcome to the Occupation

November 30th, 2012
9:27 am

Thanks Roy Barnes.

You know, I would be tempted to conclude that this is one case that is truly a single-partisan issue, but upon closer inspection it’s clear that in no area — not even high finance — is the disease we face so starkly bipartisan as it is in education.

And just a quick glance at what Rahm Emanuel is doing in Chicago will remind us that the Democratic party has done just as much if not more to attack education and create the current disastrous runaway train of privatization as their bed-mates the Republicans with whom they exchange scabies.

Both of these parties are essentially rotten.

St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014

November 30th, 2012
9:27 am

“means by which to separate “our children” from “their children…”

oh, and we’re racist for noticing racism too

Brosephus™

November 30th, 2012
9:28 am

I think this is the greatest thing to happen to the black community in 50 years and now the black parents who give a crap, can get their kids a great education, instead of a steady stream of public education, teaching them how to live off the system, instead of being the system.

No it is not. This will likely help the same number of Black students as that tax-dollar scholarship scheme did. The only thing that will help the Black community is solid career-type employment with decent pay and benefits. There is no need to give state government control over local school districts.

emz

November 30th, 2012
9:29 am

The Georgia GOP is not good for education for anyone different from them.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 30th, 2012
9:33 am

S. Ray — “…teachers can’t substitute for parents…”

Word.

Momma n’ Daddy helping Bobby n’ Susie with their math & English homework on a routine basis will, IMO, do a lot more for a kid’s academic performance than a bright shiny new charter school will.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

November 30th, 2012
9:33 am

at least the people of GA have finally stepped up to stop the liberal democrat racist educational systems that are destroying minority communities………….

its been unfair and an injustice that the democrats have a monopoly control of the educational systems in the cities and counties that FAIL the most……………….. all a racist plot to prevent minorities from making their lives better…………

its time the white liberal racists are purged from education so that minorites can prosper

Welcome to the Occupation

November 30th, 2012
9:34 am

straightroad: “Although I disagree with the Charter School Amendment of funding private schools with public money, whether a child gets an education is ultimately based on the decision of the parents”

Judging by that statement you’re almost certainly middle-class and white. In any case, you’re wrong. The question of a child getting an education is not so much the WILLINGNESS of the parents to see to it, as you suggest, but the ABILITY in socio-economic terms. The increasing precarization of the lower end of the economic spectrum over the past 30 or so years, now followed by the increasing unwillingness of the oligarchy that has a stranglehold over policy to even support in principle the education of the entire populace, THESE are the real factors that make educating the population more and more questionable outside the affluent segments.

Brosephus™

November 30th, 2012
9:35 am

Stevie Ray

I was going to attribute your post to Tourette’s as opposed to ODS. :)

I can’t understand why you, or anybody else, gets themselves worked up into a tizzy over this stuff. Regardless of the issue or situation, we all know it will end up the same way with the bottom 50% – 70% of America getting screwed without the common courtesy of a reach around.

As to the school issue, it won’t solve a thing other than diverting tax dollars from schools to favored campaign donors and friends.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 30th, 2012
9:35 am

“Did the GOP win votes by promising “free” stuff??? Say it ain’t so…”

no … only DEMS give away “free stuff” … the GOP gives “zero-cost stuff”.

world of difference, there.

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 30th, 2012
9:36 am

Rand Paul?

Who names their kid after a road atlas?

Brosephus™

November 30th, 2012
9:37 am

at least the people of GA have finally stepped up to stop the liberal democrat racist educational systems that are destroying minority communities………….

Well, seems as though someone’s putting their B.S. degree to work this morning. :roll:

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 30th, 2012
9:38 am

“oh, and we’re racist for noticing racism too”

the GOP’s version of “he who smelt it dealt it”

UNCLE SAMANTHA

November 30th, 2012
9:38 am

POLITIC-FACT CHECK

Although I disagree with the Charter School Amendment of funding private schools with public money

FALSE- PRIVATE SCHOOLS ARE PRIVATE……………. CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE NOT PRIVATE SCHOOLS…………LIBERAL BELIEFS IN EDUCATION ONLY SUPPORT THE NOTION TO REMOVE THE LIBERALS FROM EDUCATING!