For Republicans, some daunting numbers

You can lead an elephant to water but ...

You can lead an elephant to water but ...

Some numbers:

– Thirty-three U.S. Senate seats were up for grabs in the 2012 election. Democrats won 25 of those 33 seats.

– Mitt Romney is going to the White House today to have lunch, not to check out his new crib. And the main reason he will have to dine and dash is because American women rejected both his candidacy and his party, voting for Barack Obama by a margin of 55-44 percent. The gender differential in most down-ticket races was even larger.

– The Republican-run U.S. House has 19 major committees. Next year, it appears that all 19 will be chaired by white males.
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– The current Republican House caucus includes 24 women. Next year, that number will drop to 19.

– In the last three presidential election cycles, Americans under 30 voted Democratic by an average of 60 percent. And lest Republicans try to comfort themselves with the argument that it’s nothing new, that young voters always vote Democratic, it simply is not true. In the previous eight election cycles, an average of just 46.5 percent of young people had voted for the Democrat.

What does it mean? Generally speaking, younger voters who cast repeated ballots for a particular party tend to form a lasting affiliation with that party.

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– On Wednesday, House Speaker John Boehner reiterated his caucus’s strong opposition to raising taxes on the wealthy. Also on Wednesday, a new Washington Post poll was released reporting that just 37 percent of Americans agree with the position that Boehner and others have made the central focus of their party’s economic identity.

As longtime conservative Bruce Bartlett puts it in his much-cited piece for The American Conservative:

“At least a few conservatives now recognize that Republicans suffer for epistemic closure. They were genuinely shocked at Romney’s loss because they ignored every poll not produced by a right-wing pollster such as Rasmussen or approved by right-wing pundits such as the perpetually wrong Dick Morris. Living in the Fox News cocoon, most Republicans had no clue that they were losing or that their ideas were both stupid and politically unpopular.

I am disinclined to think that Republicans are yet ready for a serious questioning of their philosophy or strategy. They comfort themselves with the fact that they held the House (due to gerrymandering) and think that just improving their get-out-the-vote system and throwing a few bones to the Latino community will fix their problem. There appears to be no recognition that their defects are far, far deeper and will require serious introspection and rethinking of how Republicans can win going forward. The alternative is permanent loss of the White House and probably the Senate as well, which means they can only temporarily block Democratic initiatives and never advance their own.”

Political power ebbs and flows. It always has and always will. But it doesn’t just ebb and flow on its own. It fluctuates because losing parties take stock of why they’re losing and adapt to changing realities. If a political party not only refuses to adapt but makes a refusal to recognize changing realities a central part of its identity, ebb and flow can be delayed for a long, long time.

– Jay Bookman

949 comments Add your comment

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 29th, 2012
10:41 am

Those are some powerful numbers….. looks like the tide is going out for the GOP. It may not come back. :D

getalife

November 29th, 2012
10:42 am

The gop will lose the house next cycle then disband.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
10:42 am

Bruce Bartlett — “most Republicans had no clue that they were losing or that their ideas were both stupid and politically unpopular.”

Ahem. :D

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
10:43 am

There are ripples of change in the Republican party, but the leadership acts just the same as always.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
10:43 am

“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.”

Charles Darwin

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 29th, 2012
10:43 am

Still not sure other than custom and civility why Romney is off to the White House and I don’t think it will help with Boehner but I could be wrong. Romney will have little sway with any in the GOP. Most of the GOP appear to have already abandoned him. Would be nice to see Romney stand up and say cut the crap.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 29th, 2012
10:44 am

And by cut the crap…I meant that directed at the GOP.

barking frog

November 29th, 2012
10:46 am

Believe me, the GOP will change, but slowly. The Jeb Bush ideology
will become the mantra which is basically moderation.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
10:47 am

Will be interesting to watch the Republican infighting as they adjust to the changing demographics that some of their elected officials, party officials and voters seem to resist and even act as if it isn’t occurring.

Lord Help Us

November 29th, 2012
10:47 am

tick…tick…tick…

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
10:48 am

Is Ryan also coming to the lunch?

If so when Romney and Ryan walk into the White House, they should start playing “Didn’t we almost have it all” by Whitney Houston.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
10:48 am

That group of chairmen had better at least accept the gay lifestyle because that’s the only thing that could potentially work in their favor, given their makeup.

Steve

November 29th, 2012
10:49 am

Check out article comments at redstate.com. These tea party conservatives are FURIOUS at the Republican party now. I read comments such as, “Republicans have moved to the left, Democrats have moved to Socialism.”

They are also talking about a third “Constitutional” type of party. They want the GOP to die and a new party to take over that is more conservative. Great – more independents will vote Democrat :)

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
10:49 am

All is not lost for the GOP, Rick Perry is going to announce next July that he is running for President in 2016!

(Well all is not lost for Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert I should say.)

Fly-On-The-Wall

November 29th, 2012
10:50 am

Keep – that would be nice but given how Robme has responded after losing I doubt he’d find any backbone now. But I would love it if he did. Start the process now to have a real conservative party and by that I don’t mean Tea Party, I mean the conservatives we knew back in the 60s & 70s. We must have two strong parties (at least, maybe more) for our system to function properly.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 29th, 2012
10:50 am

Keep up the “good work”, GOP…please.

King of Planet Kolob

November 29th, 2012
10:50 am

We do not have to look to Europe to see the effects that raising taxes on the wealthiest will have on jobs and the economy. Just look at the Bush and Clinton years. Sam Walton’s employees should not have to supplement their income with public assistance that we pay for. If Repubs. can’t adapt they will go the way of the dinosaur.

East Lake Ira

November 29th, 2012
10:50 am

A generation has firmly attached itself to the Dems thanks to Clinton, Bush and Obama.

Thanks GOP!

Couldn’t have done it without you.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
10:51 am

“they should start playing “Didn’t we almost have it all” by Whitney Houston”

baaaahahahaha …

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 29th, 2012
10:52 am

I still think that President Obama is having lunch with Romney to ask Mitt if he would be the new Ambassador to Libya… :)

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
10:52 am

In the long run, the GOP will moderate – count on it.

The Tea Party will be relegated to the rubbish bin of history (perhaps leaving a greater appreciatin of some or the more libertarian values within the GOP).

However, venial stupidity is strong within the current GOP leadership – this ship may take awhile to get back on course. In the meantime, the Democratic Party will make a lasting imprint on the political landscape taht will be hard to erase.

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
10:52 am

Still not sure other than custom and civility why Romney is off to the White House

Me neither, although rumor has it that Barack had been heard rehearsing “Bess, You Is My Woman Now”, of late.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
10:52 am

Maybe Obama wants to offer Mitt a plea bargain if he’ll share some names on other Swiss bank accounts.

St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014

November 29th, 2012
10:52 am

Do NOT listen to this man, cons.

He is part of the librul media conspurrceh.
You’re doing fine.
If anything you weren’t conservative enough, heheh

JohnnyReb

November 29th, 2012
10:52 am

Watch this for a different perspective. This should be mandatory for all Conservatives.

http://blip.tv/davidhorowitztv/bill-whittle-6444929

Peadawg

November 29th, 2012
10:53 am

“The gop will lose the house next cycle then disband.”

Hell, both parties should disband. Do away with the “party” system.

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
10:54 am

It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.”

Charles Darwin

by that reckoning, Mittens should be the Preznit-Elect.

The fundies are right. Darwin is a fraud, I tell you.

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
10:55 am

Sing it dems:

“WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
…OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
10:56 am

“They are also talking about a third “Constitutional” type of party.”

I hear the new conservative party is going to be called the Wally George Party.

real john

November 29th, 2012
10:56 am

While Jay continues to bask and gloat in all his glory of Obama’s win, I would caution him to pause. I heard the same rheotric after the 2008 election and we saw how much that changed by the 2010 election.

The Democrat party reminds me of the “cool parents” from high school. Everyone’s kids has set of parents like this. You know, they let their kids drink, aren’t really concerned if they get their homework done, let their kids do whatever…

Well how do you think most of those kids turn out??? All of the tax increases and lies about Obamacare will be exposed in the coming years. The Democrats have NO plan except to “tax the rich.” Even though the tax increases they are proposing hardly make a ripple in the debt..

We’ll see how people vote when the Dem’s house of cards comes crumbling down on itself. (and it will, it is a 100% certainty).

Tap Out

November 29th, 2012
10:56 am

Grover is the leader of the Ga. GOP. They’ve pledged allegiance to him and the rich….not to the voter.

Steve

November 29th, 2012
10:56 am

I don’t think that the Tea Party will let the GOP moderate. I am going to enjoy watching that battle. The GOP is going to split if that happens as the very red states will freak out and call the moderate Republicans RINOS and the battle will ensue. The more blue state Republicans moderate, the more the Confederate state Republicans will turn tea party bat s**t crazy. It really does look good for Democrats right now.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
10:57 am

Pea,

Why would the Dems disband?

They are winning.

Just defleterbating again in public?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 29th, 2012
10:57 am

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
10:58 am

pssssst…come here. i want to tell you something

hey, you know what?

dems won, cons…

as Arnold would say, “HASTA LA VISTA BABY”

“YOU LOSE”

Junior Samples

November 29th, 2012
10:59 am

USinUK,

Now you know good and well the GOP won’t believe in Darwinism.
And there of course explains the problem.

straitroad

November 29th, 2012
10:59 am

Keep gloating Jay.

indigo

November 29th, 2012
11:00 am

And, if the Republicans refuse to adapt and make a refusal to recognize changing realities a central part of their identify, we’ll all either go off the fiscal cliff or suffer thru a last minute p*ss poor deal.

It’s becoming increasing clear that today’s Republican Party is the sorriest and most destructive political entity ever in American history.

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
11:00 am

DEMS WIN!

WE GONNA PARTY LIKE ITS 1999, BABY!

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:01 am

“Keep gloating Jay.”

Translation: I am bitter because I wanted to be the one “gloating”.

:-)

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:02 am

moonbat

Great tune.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 29th, 2012
11:03 am

Well, I feel kinda sorry for the young Republicans that are gonna be old some day.

You can almost hear the talk going on in houses of the future now:

Teenager: “Dad, why does Grandpa snarl every time he tunes in to the news?”
Dad: “Well, son, your granddaddy hates what’s happening in politics these days.”
Teenager: “Who did Grandpa vote for when he was younger and still able to get around?”
Dad: “Well, son, your granddaddy was a Republican and he always voted for Republicans.”
Teenager: “What’s a Republican?”

It’s kinda sad to see my party get butt-whomped so bad at the polls by women and the Mexicans and still go around talking about sticking things in women to make sure they’re still pregnant and deporting every Mexican they see. I hate to say it about my own kind, but it’s so hard for them to learn anything it’s like they’re bone-headed stupid or something.

But maybe that’s just the way I see things. Have a good Thursday everybody.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
11:03 am

The gop will stay the course and change nothing.

It is what they do.

Lord Help Us

November 29th, 2012
11:03 am

‘Keep gloating Jay.’

Keep living in denial, dude…

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
11:03 am

jay got them frothing at the mouth early today. He threw some more raw meat into the echo chamber and now they’re like a pack a riled up hyenas.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
11:05 am

“I still think that President Obama is having lunch with Romney to ask Mitt if he would be the new Ambassador to Libya”

more like the Caymans!

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:05 am

I see the Bookman circle jerk is in full effect this morning. Can’t wait for the righteous indignation when sequestration is implemented. Our Lord and Savior can’t herd the leeches. The harder he tries, the more they just slip through his fingers. :)

Steve

November 29th, 2012
11:05 am

And the GOP is still fighting for tax cuts for the wealthy while at the same time trying to gut the safety net programs and expand the military.
They
just
don’t
get
it

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
11:06 am

“by that reckoning, Mittens should be the Preznit-Elect.

The fundies are right. Darwin is a fraud, I tell you.”

adaptable to change /= spineless

Steve

November 29th, 2012
11:06 am

Sure, Nero, and you probably were posting that the polls were showing a solid Romney win, too, as you live in fantasy land.

SBinf

November 29th, 2012
11:06 am

“If so when Romney and Ryan walk into the White House, they should start playing “Didn’t we almost have it all” by Whitney Houston.”

I lolled.

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
11:06 am

“He threw some more raw meat into the echo chamber and now they’re like a pack a riled up hyenas.”

How do you all like your elephant cooked? Rare, medium rare, medium well, or well done?

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:07 am

Mitt should go eat the messiah’s food and then publically drop a deuce on the White House lawn. Carry your own water leeches.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
11:07 am

real john — “The Democrat party reminds me of the “cool parents” from high school. Everyone’s kids has set of parents like this. You know, they let their kids drink, aren’t really concerned if they get their homework done, let their kids do whatever… Well how do you think most of those kids turn out???”

Yeah, ’cause the kids with tightazz crazoid fundie parents NEVER turn out to be crazed bombers or the kind of people who would whip out a piece in a crowded parking mall or who would shoot a doctor just because they disagreed with some of the work the doctor was doing . . . :roll:

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 29th, 2012
11:07 am

straitroad

a suggestion

climb down off that cross you’ve attached yourself to
and use the wood to build a bridge to get over it….

Steve

November 29th, 2012
11:07 am

and then there’s this:

Hostess Executive Bonuses: Twinkie-Maker To Seek Approval For $1.8 Million In Bonuses During Liquidation

Greed, greed, greed

getalife

November 29th, 2012
11:07 am

mitt will still be unemployed but will be fine.

This is mitt’s last day to be in corporate media then he is history.

Jay

November 29th, 2012
11:08 am

straitroad, I’m by no means gloating. I’ve written repeatedly that it is bad for the country and in the long run bad for the Democrats to have a dysfunctional opposition party, which is what the Republicans have become. The GOP has a critically important role to perform, and it is increasingly unable to do so.

Lord Help Us

November 29th, 2012
11:08 am

‘If so when Romney and Ryan walk into the White House, they should start playing “Didn’t we almost have it all” by Whitney Houston.’

Nah, he won…crank up Ludicrous ‘Get Back…’ and see if they crap themselves…

Dunwoody Granny

November 29th, 2012
11:09 am

I’ve been looking at the National Review, and I’m not seeing a lot of soul-searching on the right. They’re still looking at excuses: a fancy new GOTV database didn’t work the way it was supposed to. The GOP didn’t do a good enough job of educating voters. The ad campaign didn’t focus on the right issues. Skewed polls were such an article of faith that no one saw disaster coming in time to ward it off. The cultural narrative — movies, books, TV — mostly comes from the left; the right isn’t good enough at telling their stories.

The whole “we make our own reality” thing just keeps coming back to bite the R’s. They simply can’t buy the notion that they can’t simply tap their ruby heels together and find themselves back in a world that conforms to their beliefs.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:09 am

Thulsa

Based on current trends, what did Jay say that was incorrect?

His last paragraph does speak of “ebb and flows” of politics.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
11:09 am

“Still not sure other than custom and civility”

Not custom. It has NOT been customary for the winning Presidential candidate to invite the loser to the White House. In fact, it’s been quite rare

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
11:09 am

I see Nero has already started dipping into the crystal meth this morning … tweak tweak tweak

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
11:09 am

Keep gloating using data, facts, quotes and evidence Jay.

Those are the modern GOP’s wolfsbane.

I am disinclined to think that Republicans are yet ready for a serious questioning of their philosophy or strategy.

Agreed, although another three electoral beat downs in the next few years MAY do the trick…

real john

November 29th, 2012
11:10 am

Joe Hussein Mama..

Way to GREATLY overexaggerate go to the most extreme example you can think of. No, I”m referring to responsible parents who actually set rules for their kids.. With the libs lets just let everybody do whatever they want, whenever they want

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
11:11 am

“Nah, he won…crank up Ludicrous ‘Get Back…’ and see if they crap themselves…”

I like that. There should be a New Black Panther posted outside the oval office door also.

BlahBlahBlah

November 29th, 2012
11:12 am

This is all great. So in 10-15 years when the Democrats dominate Congress, who will they blame when the debt/deficit/budget/entitlement math problems REALLY start to hit the fan?

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
11:13 am

the lord and savior would be damn proud of these robots. they’re like cult members. libs do love they cult of personality they do.

Steve

November 29th, 2012
11:13 am

Or who will take credit when we finally start bringing down the deficit while boosting back the middle class – the real job creators?

indigo

November 29th, 2012
11:14 am

Nero

I’m guessing your rich Big Business daddy constantly complains about the “leeches” and refers to Obama as “their Messiah”. So, rather than concentrate on your homeschool studies, you parrot daddy and rant here is all your adolescent immaturity.

Alex

November 29th, 2012
11:14 am

“”DAUNTING” equals OPPORTUNITY… Evolve or perish,,Political Darwinism..

@Indigo: “ever” now just where in your swiss cheese cerebral cortex did you find that, melodramatics hurts your theme…..Granny equates Jeb and Mitt, more uneducated melodrama, too many family issues with Jeb and the Bush name remains toxic

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:14 am

I see USuK is living up to her gin-soaked barroom queen rep. Put the bottle down and swerve back on the correct side of the road honey.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
11:14 am

real john — “Way to GREATLY overexaggerate go to the most extreme example you can think of.”

As they say in Law and Order, *you* opened that door, Counselor. Don’t get upset just because opposing counsel wants to walk through it with you. :roll:

If you get to make up an extreme example, then get prepared for an extreme example to get thrown right back at you.

“No, I”m referring to responsible parents who actually set rules for their kids.. With the libs lets just let everybody do whatever they want, whenever they want”

What makes you think you know the first thing about how liberals raise their kids?

Owl

November 29th, 2012
11:14 am

51% isn’t something to get so excited about.

larry

November 29th, 2012
11:14 am

I wonder which Mitt Romney will show up for lunch today.

The 1994 version, the 2002 version or the 2012 version.

Or will all three show up. This might be an interesting lunch.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
11:15 am

Mike

November 29th, 2012
11:15 am

Good video Johnny

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
11:15 am

Jay, there will no longer be an opposition party.

DEMS WON.

It’s all dems all the time for eternity!

The dems will eventually branch off so you will have the moderate dems (demods) on on one side and the communists on the other (demcoms).

Either way:

Sid Bream slides into home base.

DEMS WIN, DEMS WIN, DEMS WIN, DEMS WIN!

BlahBlahBlah

November 29th, 2012
11:15 am

And how will they do that Steve, with magic fairy dust?

indigo

November 29th, 2012
11:15 am

Alex

Open your eyes and you will clearly see the “ever”, you tool.

mtend

November 29th, 2012
11:15 am

The only number that matters is the deficit. Sooner, rather than later, we will be bankrupt and a failed welfare state like Greece. When that happens all the free goodies the Dems dole out for votes and power will vanish.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
11:15 am

BlahBlahBlah — “So in 10-15 years when the Democrats dominate Congress, who will they blame when the debt/deficit/budget/entitlement math problems REALLY start to hit the fan?”

Given how spitty y’all are at projecting who’s going to win an election just DAYS before the election actually takes place, what makes you think your side’s prediction skills are any better at calling things 10-15 *years* ahead of time?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
11:16 am

darling, I am on the right side of the road for England.

you keep tweaking, though – let everyone see you for the jackass you are.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:16 am

Indigo,

Quit stealing our future Boomer leech. Generation Greed.

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
11:17 am

There should be a New Black Panther posted outside the oval office door also.

Maybe they can get the skeery guy who intimidated voters at the polling place by opening the door. Boo!

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:17 am

Thulsa

Unlike the robots on this very blog who were touting a Romney victory because Fox and radio pundits as well as right wing websites were saying “Romney landslide”, right?

:-)

what about Georgia?

November 29th, 2012
11:18 am

The Republicans control this state and have done so for years. They put a tricky Amendment to create Charter Schools and ole and behold, the graduation rate is embarassing. Red State and nothing accomplished for the last 12 plus years! It is time for Nathan Deal to go and for this state to turn BLUE!!

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 29th, 2012
11:18 am

I don’t see Jay gloating. I think he, like most of us, really do want to see a working Congress.
Partisanship has no place after an election. The MAJORITY of Americans have spoken. Will the Republicans listen? If the GOP keeps dragging their feet, come 2014, there will be a reckoning.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:19 am

Says the name calling queen. Wrap yourself in your Union Jack and worry about your adopted country’s problems. Expatriate leech.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
11:19 am

guy,

If you’re still around, I offer up the current batch of blogging cons as existence proof of my earlier claim. They clearly worship President Obama.

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and liking it!

November 29th, 2012
11:20 am

Oh good! Nero’s here. Now I can unveil my new Nom de Blog…

Woodstock Mike

November 29th, 2012
11:21 am

It’s true, our country is turning into one where people would rather have others pay for them, they would rather rely on others to make it in life, they don’t want to work hard and be rewarded for it, take a look at how the Democrats won the election, the African American, Latino, and single white women vote won the election for Obama, if you guys think that’s a good thing so be it… Life will go on either way…

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
11:21 am

I’m sure the white libs agree with DannyX about having a new black panther posted outside barracks door. Right Whitey libs? that’s Danny Xs way of letting you white boys know that you sit in the back of the democrat bus. hilarious!

SBinf

November 29th, 2012
11:22 am

I love the GOP’s excuse that they just didn’t get their message out. They’ve been peddling the same philosophy warmed over for the last 30 years. I think people get exactly what the GOP are about.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:22 am

Corbin,

I like it! :) Truth in advertising!

Atlas Shrugging

November 29th, 2012
11:22 am

As an Independent, my hope is that the REP-ugants don’t believe a word that lying DEM-wit community organizer promises. Let the takers that elected him start paying income taxes and see how they like supporting the herd.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
11:23 am

nero is on the Mexican ice.

I think many pols are on it too so we need ransom drug tests for the ones writing the laws.

Pee in a cup pols.

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
11:23 am

My goodness, how much more denial can you exhibit?

You cons just got crushed for the third time in six years.

And more than a few of you said Romney/Elmer Fudd/anybody could beat Obama.

What the hell are you thinking?

And yet you reality averse Republicans think that with no changes whatsoever, things are going to just magically turn around for you? As though there is some immutable “pendulum”. But all bets are off on that when your party, it’s leaders and your ideology all stink on ice. Hint: trying to govern from WAY out there on the extremist fringe will never get you beyond where you are now.

Jay is right. And I too have written so repeatedly.

A hijacked, deadly and dysfunctional GOP is NOT good for this nation.

But you faux conservatives have made your collective beds, now you get to lay in them…

professional skeptic

November 29th, 2012
11:24 am

” I hate to say it about my own kind, but it’s so hard for them to learn anything it’s like they’re bone-headed stupid or something. But maybe that’s just the way I see things.”

@ Redneck: That’s your opinion…

… and it’s very true.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
11:24 am

W. Mike — “take a look at how the Democrats won the election”

Yeah. The old-fashioned way. WITH MORE VOTES.

Thomas Heyward Jr

November 29th, 2012
11:25 am

“The Republican-run U.S. House has 19 major committees. Next year, it appears that all 19 will be chaired by white males.”
Jay Bookman

“Communism is the death of the soul. It is the organization of total conformity – in short, of tyranny – and it is committed to making tyranny universal.”
Adlai E. Stevenson
.
…..”We have women and black people on our side…………Resistance is futile”
Local Metro-sexual………now give me your wallet.

F. Sinkwich

November 29th, 2012
11:25 am

Nice chart, Jay.

Proves my point:

RIP USA 1776-2012

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:26 am

Thulsa

Actually Danny X was making fun of the conservatives on this very blog when on election day they were posting links from Drudge, Fox, breitbart, etc about the one new black panther who was standing outside of the voting precinct in Philly. None of those articles mentioned that two cops were also near by and what happened to that NON STORY?

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:26 am

Getaleech is on the “government” ice. Greedy old Boomer leech. Give back what your generation is stealing.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
11:26 am

Simple Truths

November 29th, 2012
11:27 am

Ah, to be young and stupid again…

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:27 am

Sink

When are you leaving or will you just be hanging out with the “Grateful Dead”?

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:28 am

Thomas

Psst: Eventhough Alex Jones brainwashed you into believing it, Ron Paul didn’t get the nomination.

hahahahahaha

:-)

Recon 0311 2533

November 29th, 2012
11:28 am

It should be interesting to see how Obama and Congressional Democrats adapt to the reality of an economy in serious decline worsening with each passing day. The demands for more taxation on upper class income earners will soon be drowned out by demands from a large and growing segment of the population that can no longer receive vote pandering financial assistance because there’s no more money to give. Of course we’re out of money now but many of those receiving federal government financial assistance don’t know that and their political benefactors want to keep it a secret for as long as they can. Going over the so called fiscal cliff now might in the longer run be what’s best for the country.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
11:28 am

nero,

That Mexican ice is highly addictive.

I think you need a intervention.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:29 am

Thulsa

Allow me to clarify if you will, some of the conservatives on this blog………

Not all were posting those links

:-)

Fly-On-The-Wall

November 29th, 2012
11:29 am

Jay, I think Nero is now making this personal. Please warn him/her because I find those posts to be offensive. USinUK is more than able to deal with it but I personally find it offensive.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
11:30 am

del,

“Third-Quarter Economic Growth Is Revised Up to 2.7%

The American economy grew at a substantially faster pace in the third quarter than first thought.” NYT

The only thing standing in the way of our economy is the gop.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
11:30 am

tbs,

lemme know when cons were saying that Romney was our “lord and savior”, or show me video of where cons were rejoicing because they thought an imminent Romney victory meant their mortgage would be paid by Romney and their gas tanks filled. and lemme know when cons start walking around with silhouetted tshirts glorifying Romney or other R leaders as if they’re some kind of God on earth that can nanny peoples lives for them. geez

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 29th, 2012
11:31 am

Doom: I’m sure the white libs agree with DannyX about having a new black panther posted outside barracks door. Right Whitey libs? that’s Danny Xs way of letting you white boys know that you sit in the back of the democrat bus. hilarious!

I think this speaks a whole lot about Doom’s latent racism myself. Between that, the drinking problem and who knows what else, Doom should just tuck in his tail and leave after apologizing. But all know he’ll never man up for that.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
11:31 am

hey – since we were talking about Maddow downstairs … I just learned from Bill O’Reilly that Christianity isn’t a religion!

who knew!

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and liking it!

November 29th, 2012
11:32 am

Simple Truths

November 29th, 2012
11:27 am
Young and stupid and no aptitude for sarcasm…

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
11:32 am

Cool picture.

Is the liberal going to rip the elephant’s ear off and poke his eyes out with that stick?

and PETA could care less.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:33 am

Thulsa

All Democrats said that or like usual you are painting with your broad brushes?

Thought so

Take off your pull ups and put on your big bout pants…. ROMNEY LOST, fella

Even you mentioned months ago that Obama would be leaving the WH.

GET OVER IT.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
11:33 am

I will argue that we need to remove the biggest regulation to our economy.

The gop.

So tell your failed party cons to get out of the way of free commerce.

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
11:33 am

“the lord and savior would be damn proud of these robots.”

Why do republicans worship Obama as their “lord and savior”? I’ve never seen anyone do that except republicans…weird…

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:33 am

Leech-On-The-Wall,

I find your sucking up to Bookman offensive. Just another example of name calling sycophant that can dish it but cant take it. Why don’t you cry some more? Hypocrite.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
11:33 am

That’s right … the belief that Jesus died for our sins and was the son of God born to a virgin … it’s not a religion, it’s a philosophy … like Capitalism. or Absurdism.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 29th, 2012
11:33 am

Hold up on the black panthers idea…

The GOP is more frightened by Pink Panthers.

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 29th, 2012
11:33 am

Maybe My Nom de Blog should be this…

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:33 am

big boy pants

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:34 am

Thulsa

So let me know when you can substantiate that what you said was the majority of those who voted for Obama?

Thanks

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
11:34 am

Getalife,

perhaps you missed the part in that economics report that said a main component of that increased economic growth was increased gubment spending.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
11:34 am

sorry … forgot to include linkee TWICE

http://huff.to/Toe3Kl

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
11:35 am

Classy, feel good song written for Obama by one of his good friends and favorite “musicians”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c9DuavThNI

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
11:35 am

Take a look at how the Republicans lost the election, with a crushing lack of votes from the Jewish, African American, Latino, and single white women demographics.

If you guys think that’s a good thing so be it…

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
11:36 am

“51% isn’t something to get so excited about.”

Owl – It apparently doesn’t matter much to you who the president is, right?

BRW

November 29th, 2012
11:36 am

Stop feeding the leech-troll. Goading is all he’s got.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:36 am

Thulsa

Heck, there were a few on Kyle’s blog already talking about what President Romney would do, not do, say and not say

hahahahahaha

:-)

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:36 am

Get,

So is that govt check you keep getting. Generation greed is why this country is gasping for relief. Stop borrowing against our future. Live within your means.

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 29th, 2012
11:36 am

Granny G…

“The GOP is more frightened by Pink Panthers.”

I’m so stealing that! :lol:

curious

November 29th, 2012
11:36 am

The answer is obvious for the Republicans.

Grover Norquist for President in 2016!

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
11:37 am

getalife,

after you remove the opposition, can they be your butlers?

getalife

November 29th, 2012
11:38 am

doomy,

Stop deflecterbating in public and tell your losing party to get out of the way of business.

Do it now!

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:38 am

Corbin,

Voted it would be more apropos.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:39 am

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”

― Alexis de Tocqueville

getalife

November 29th, 2012
11:39 am

moonbat,

The opposition removed themselves.

The focus is on good paying jobs for the middle class.

Focus.

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
11:40 am

Sink

When are you leaving or will you just be hanging out with the “Grateful Dead”?

Too funny.

Maybe he too will be Singapore bound.

Self deport, cons…

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
11:40 am

“It’s true, our country is turning into one where people would rather have others pay for them, they would rather rely on others to make it in life, they don’t want to work hard and be rewarded for it, take a look at how the Democrats won the election, the African American, Latino, and single white women vote won the election for Obama, if you guys think that’s a good thing so be it… Life will go on either way…”

Yup, all them girls and brown folks gittin” purty uppity, huh?

Alex

November 29th, 2012
11:41 am

“tool”, more AGED swiss cheese, brilliant response…..exit stage left for the drama queen…”tool”..haven’t heard that since I was in Home Depot….

2 Jamvet, Probably more repubs not in the extreme, of course there are some as there are libs. ..
Yes, Obama won..Done, Done..move on. the country is badly split which bodes bad for the COUNTRY, our country… Repubs have to evolve or will stagnate and decline, of course..So do the Dems. So what do you think a few million voted for Obama or against Romney, could be some of both. no one party has control..a good thing…ask cali…

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:42 am

Jam

Supply Side Singapore isn’t going anywhere.

He will be back in Atlanta before he leaves the country to live elsewhere.

All talk from him. I haven’t seen him post anything about the stock market in a few days. He and a few others were hot and heavy on that issue a few weeks ago.

What happened?

Fly-On-The-Wall

November 29th, 2012
11:43 am

Nero,

I find your comments offensive. They do nothing but insult other people. You just snipe at people without engaging in a relevent conversation. Your comments are just like a schoolyard bully and I believe that you should be dealt with in a civil matter – removed and ignored.

Recon 0311 2533

November 29th, 2012
11:43 am

getalife,

The increased GDP is mostly a result of increased government spending which isn’t the best contributing factor. Weekly jobless claims remain far above 350,000 and until they fall below that number we’re not going to see healthy private sector job growth that propels a healthy increase in GDP and our economy.

bookman parrot

November 29th, 2012
11:43 am

all these libs (the party of spend spend spend; give me give me give me) congratulating themselves on helping start the economic downfall on it’s way… and i’ll bet they will all conveniently forget their part and support in bringing it about. they forget the housing bubble was due to lib policies of give give give mortgages to those that could never hope to pay at some point) I hope i’m wrong about the economic downfall, but ….

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
11:44 am

Probably more repubs not in the extreme…

????????????????????????????????????

Then where the hell are you hiding them?

Certainly not in Washington DC…

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
11:46 am

tbs,

please substantiate where i said “most democrats”

Fly-On-The-Wall

November 29th, 2012
11:47 am

It was interesting to hear the comments of the Republicans in the House. They act like nothing has changed and that the President must meet all of their demands before they will approve anything.

Talk about a total disconnect.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
11:47 am

The speaker is boxed in and whining about it.

No crying yet.

George

November 29th, 2012
11:48 am

That photo of the elephant above, is that taken from the Rose Garden? The white house looks funny, is it being painted? Or is that just a composite photo shop of how the GOP left our government and white house grounds. The only vestige of the once proud GOP elephant are the dung beetles still in the congress.

bookman parrot

November 29th, 2012
11:49 am

if the BHO admin can bring about recovery and huge deficit reduction, without making a larger list of impoverished and gov’t dependent) then kudos to them
but if they can’t, i hope the lib faithful will finally act on logic and not just party-line.

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
11:49 am

” no one party has control..a good thing…ask cali…”

Right. In California, the republicans did their best to bring gridlock to a new artform – and you like the result? Figures…

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:49 am

“No crying yet.”

“yet” being the keyword……….

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
11:50 am

Give me give me give me is part and parcel of GOP economics.

The bad news, parrot?

If you ain’t super-wealthy or a BIG corporation, virtually none of their giveaways, handouts, tax dodges and massive welfare are for you.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
11:50 am

aaaaah. so keep up the sorry fight is also a psychologist. who knew? i just knew the boy couldn’t stop obsessing over me. Creepy…

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:51 am

Fly,

Get thicker skin. Pointing out your ideology of leech behavior is precisely relevant. Sycophants like you don’t like to hear the brutal truth. You just want people who disagree with you to go away. If the truth hurts, then change your ways. Stop whining. Come down off the wall and engage instead of crying to Bookman.

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
11:51 am

Yup, all them girls and brown folks gittin” purty uppity, huh?

I love the assumption that the world consists of two groups—white guys and leeches. Anything beyond dark tan = leech. XX chromosome = leech. Basically not a white guy = leech. Of course!
And these geniuses wonder why they took a big nutshot.

You whiner boys better put on a good cup before the next election.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
11:52 am

It was a short press conference for the speaker.

He will stay the course but our President warned him he will take it to the American people.

The 14 cycle is on.

The gop will lose the house.

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
11:52 am

“all these libs (the party of spend spend spend; give me give me give me)…”

Parrot – when you start a post like this, we know you have no grasp of reality, and we need not continue reading. Thanks for that. :)

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
11:54 am

Thulsa

So you are admitting that a vast MINORITY of the millions who voted for Obama engaged in the things you mentioned?

Thanks for that clarification.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
11:55 am

“Talk about a total disconnect”

Except…it is NOT a “total disconnect”. They don have the majority in the House, now don’t they? And the CAN block any bills from passing. Problem, of course, is that they can’t get any bills passed either, because they don’t control the Senate.

BUT as long as they are content with block the Dems and the President, they don’t HAVE to compromise on anything.

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
11:55 am

The speaker seems to believe Romney won – the positions he’s holding on the “fiscal cliff” are all Romney’s.

He must have REALLY believed those unskewed polls… *sigh*

Nero

November 29th, 2012
11:56 am

Aquagirl,

Leeches come is all shades and colors. A majority of the leeches in this country are white. Only leeches inject race and color in everything.

Alex

November 29th, 2012
11:58 am

@ fly as the recepient of a few “kind words”-all part of it….
@ Regnad, Cali repubs-the problem, Really, you read anything about it, really, yep it’s cured with a 13.5% tax…Really….can anyone be so dense( jamvet you are NOT allowed to answer that), no it’s not a rehtorical question….. girls and “brown” people–brilliant assessment, goodness, send him to D.C.

@ jamvet-you have a point with the D.C crowd, but less of them after this election, right?..happy,happy

We have a Dr. Phil……

Welcome to the Occupation

November 29th, 2012
11:59 am

Nero: “inting out your ideology of leech behavior is precisely relevant.”

You seem very very invested in this idea of a “leech” relationship in our politics. Which is odd considering that you are looking in all the wrong places for the real leech-dom.

Maybe you’re building up a strong psychological defense against looking at where the real source of the leeching is coming from — which as everyone knows is from the top 1% of the plutocracy and their armies of lobbyists and political operative hangers-on and think tanks, who have been busy for the last 30 years redistributing wealth up the wealth ladder towards the very top, at everyone else’s expense, including YOU.

But if you admitted that grim truth to yourself, and the fact that there’s no easy way to do anything to reverse it, you would be hopelessly depressed. So instead you mouth silly rhetoric that gives you a short-term satisfaction, but in the end does nothing. Am I getting warmer?

East Lake Ira

November 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014

November 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

tbs, heheh

Mittens is surging! Maybe its today, he’s at the WH
Elmer Fudd did not rsvp

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
12:00 pm

“Leeches come is all shades and colors. A majority of the leeches in this country are white”

Nero – how do we identify non-leeches?

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
12:01 pm

Leeches come is all shades and colors. A majority of the leeches in this country are white.

Frankly Nero, you offend me with all the talk about Boomer leeches. It’s disrespectful to ignore us Gen X leeches. *sniffle*

The Thin Guy

November 29th, 2012
12:01 pm

The main numbers problem is that morons are increasing exponentially such as the fool who misrepresents me in Congress, old Island Tipping Hank Johnson who now wants to get rid of the Constitution and force we peons to genuflect to the left wing thugs who are now running this country

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/dem-rep-hank-johnson-amend-constitution-restrict-freedom-speech

Under the current regime you don’t need a job. Just let the government take from the workers and give what they earned to the bums.

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
12:03 pm

No one told ME that “Elmer Fudd” is the catch phrase of the day!

How do I sign up for the memo?

The other half of your brain.

November 29th, 2012
12:03 pm

Jay, Please tell us how many women are in Obamas cabinet? hahahahahaha

mm

November 29th, 2012
12:03 pm

“lemme know when cons were saying that Romney was our “lord and savior”, or show me video of where cons were rejoicing because they thought an imminent Romney victory meant their mortgage would be paid by Romney and their gas tanks filled. and lemme know when cons start walking around with silhouetted tshirts glorifying Romney or other R leaders as if they’re some kind of God on earth that can nanny peoples lives for them. geez”

“So is that govt check you keep getting. Generation greed is why this country is gasping for relief. Stop borrowing against our future. Live within your means.”

You cons really are idiots. You will be slowly erased if you do not start dealing with reality.

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
12:03 pm

Nero made me feel so guilty, I quit using roads and mail delivery…

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
12:03 pm

and that’s not going to happen because the president is not going to negotiate with himself,” the official said.

arrrrRRRRGGGGGHHH! this “white house negotiator” needs to be FIRED. FAH-URRED. FIRED.

The last time I heard the phrase “negotiating with myself” was Chimpy McWarHard-On who was answerin’ questions on his Social Security Piratization Tour, aka “Ah got po-litical Capital and Ah’m gone spendit!”

Don’t ever ever allow anyone from your office to use that phrase again. Ever. It is cursed.

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
12:04 pm

“It should be interesting to see how Obama and Congressional Democrats adapt to the reality of an economy in serious decline worsening with each passing day.”

Whoops…

3rd quarter GDP revised upward. Revision released today, 3rd quarter GDP +2.7%, up from the initial report of +2.0%.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:04 pm

tbs,

and btw i can deal quite well with Obama winning. i think its sad for the country and for its finances in particular but I’m cool with it because after 4 more years of destruction, declining purchasing power, and crushing debt I’m going to look at people like u and simply say ” You voted for it”. And the reason i can deal with the o win is because i don’t let. who is potus decide my fate or lott in life. Unlike some dems I’m not dependent on gubment. No matter what happens i am the decider of my destiny and not anyone else. And its a damn comfortable feeling knowing that.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
12:05 pm

B. Parrot — “they forget the housing bubble was due to lib policies of give give give mortgages to those that could never hope to pay at some point)”

Can’t forget what never was. :D

Nero

November 29th, 2012
12:06 pm

Occupation,

Nah, I think you just farted is all. Leeches infect both political parties. They infect every economic demographic. It’s a pandemic.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

November 29th, 2012
12:07 pm

Jay, Please tell us how many women are in Obamas cabinet? hahahahahaha

I count 7. Hahahahahahahahaha

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/cabinet

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
12:08 pm

Hey “Thin Guy”, why don’t you quote the rest of what Hank said.

Here it is, from your very own Cracker News Service site:

“These corporations, along with the people they support, other millionaires who they’re putting into office, are stealing your government. They’re stealing the government and the U.S. Supreme Court was a big enabler with the Citizens United case,” Johnson said at the Annesbrooks HOA candidate Forum in Georgia in October.

“They control the patterns of thinking,” said Johnson. “They control the media. They control the messages that you get. So, you are being taught to hate your government–don’t want government, but keep your hands off of my Medicare by the way. I mean, we are all confused people and we’re poking fingers at each other saying, well you’re black, you’re Hispanic, immigration, homosexuals. You know, we’re lost on the social issues, abortion, contraception.

“And these folks,” Johnson said, “are setting up a scenario where they’re privatizing every aspect of our lives as we know it. So, wake up! Wake up! Let’s look at what’s happening. We need a constitutional amendment to allow the legislature to control the so-called free speech rights of corporations.”

Anyone here have a problem with that?

Nero

November 29th, 2012
12:09 pm

Aquagirl,

Don’t cry too hard. When the Boomers are done, there won’t be much left for you to leech off. :)

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
12:10 pm

“Jay, Please tell us how many women are in Obamas cabinet? hahahahahaha

I count 7. Hahahahahahahahaha”

yeah.

but how many BINDERS of women does he have?

Welcome to the Occupation

November 29th, 2012
12:10 pm

Nero: “Leeches infect both political parties. They infect every economic demographic”

Except that it’s you who seem to be the one who totally buys into the mystique of parties.

Do you see me on here cheer-leading for the Democratic party?

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
12:11 pm

“Can’t forget what never was”

But the “Looking Glass people” can apparently believe more than 6 impossible things before breakfast!

Tom Middleton

November 29th, 2012
12:11 pm

As much as I like to see this GOP on the ropes, Jay, I’d much, much rather they learn to moderate and come to the center for all of us. It’s just the American way.

But first they’ll have to disavow Karl Rove and his quest for a permanent conservative majority and unwillingness to compromise, the Neocons and their might-makes-right, starve-the-beast mentality, and, yes, the party’s love of selfish white men, who still can’t believe they lost the election.

Then there’s Fox News that isn’t helping them any, and, of course, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Kelly Ayotte (the three Muskathugs), John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Grover Norquist, Ayn Rand and her prophet Paul Ryan, the Tea Party, the Koch Brothers, and….My gosh, Jay, we’re talking about the whole damn party. Nevermind, sir! :)

paulo977

November 29th, 2012
12:12 pm

Dunwoody Granny…”they’re still looking at excuses: a fancy new GOTV database didn’t work the way it was supposed to.”
_______________________________________________

Well said……………………
“Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore” !!!!!!!!!!
Andre Gide

Nero

November 29th, 2012
12:12 pm

Regnad,

Acceptance is the first step..

ByteMe - Got ilk?

November 29th, 2012
12:12 pm

but how many BINDERS of women does he have?

I’m sorry, but that’s just too weirdly sexual to answer here.

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
12:12 pm

Doggone/GA

But the “Looking Glass people” can apparently believe more than 6 impossible things before breakfast!

————————————————–

That’s because last nights meth hasn’t worn off.

:-)

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
12:13 pm

ByteMe – 50 shades of White House?

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
12:13 pm

“I count 7. Hahahahahahahahaha”

More to the point, how many women chair committees in the Senate? I don’t actually know.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:13 pm

tbs,

it is of my opinion that look at 100 people who pull the lever D vs 100 people who pull the lever R that there will be substantially more people who pull the lever D who are dependent on govt or on other taxpayers footing more of the share of the bill. I don’t remember where i read or heard it but it was said that households making under 30k per year broke to Obama by 7 million. If that’s true then i wouldn’t be surprised in the least.

weetamoe

November 29th, 2012
12:13 pm

Is that an African elephant or an Indian elephant? The ears are supposed to be the identifying characteristic but the signifier may have *unexpectedly* changed like the gdp and unemployment figures are wont to do under the Obama.

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
12:14 pm

“but how many BINDERS of women does he have?”

FLAG: 15 yard penalty and loss of down. The catch phrase of the day is ELMER FUDD.

BINDERS is so last month.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

November 29th, 2012
12:15 pm

Quite a lot in the current Senate and likely more in the next one, since they added at least one new female

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/e_one_section_no_teasers/org_chart.htm

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
12:15 pm

I don’t remember where i read or heard it but it was said that households making under 30k per year broke to Obama by 7 million

There’s your Gooper logic–if you earn under 30K per year, you are a “leech.”

Mick

November 29th, 2012
12:16 pm

**the reason i can deal with the o win is because i don’t let. who is potus decide my fate or lott in life**

Boom, on that I can agree! I wish more of your con bretheren could see the light, instead we get nero the zero trying to beat up on the elderly as if the republicans in control from 94-2007 can just wash their hands of this fiscal mess and blame everyone except themselves…

ByteMe - Got ilk?

November 29th, 2012
12:16 pm

ByteMe – 50 shades of White House?

Ahhh, the Clinton Years….

Nero

November 29th, 2012
12:16 pm

Occupation,

No you just vote for ‘em. Indifference is acquiescence.

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
12:17 pm

“My gosh, Jay, we’re talking about the whole damn party. Nevermind, sir!”

The whole damn party indeed Tom. It was just about a year ago when the crazy really started kicking in. Who can forget the Republican Presidential nominees? Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney.

A guy like Jon “Marilyn” Huntsman has no chance in the today’s Munster Party.

St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014

November 29th, 2012
12:18 pm

that’s it, us regular folks just don’t recognize their superior geniusness,
how dare we..

what’s that called again…..

Nero

November 29th, 2012
12:18 pm

Apparently Mickey is still mad. Need a hug buddy?

Brosephus™

November 29th, 2012
12:18 pm

Jay, Please tell us how many women are in Obamas cabinet? hahahahahaha

Obama has 5 in direct Cabinet positions, and there are a total of 8 listed as having Cabinet-level rank.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/cabinet

That would be way more than the GOP’s leadership. Not to mention that Obama’s cabinet is made up of Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, male, and female members. That is much more of a representation of America than the GOP’s leadership version.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
12:19 pm

“Is that an African elephant or an Indian elephant?”

um. yeah. did you LOOK at the picture???

I think the Taj Mahal may offer a clue

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
12:19 pm

What this picture doesn’t show is in the next frame the elephant picks the kid up with his trunk, dunks him in the water and stomps all over him.

The elephant then takes a big trunk full of water and blows it high into the air in victorious glory!

ByteMe - Got ilk?

November 29th, 2012
12:20 pm

um. yeah. did you LOOK at the picture???

I think the Taj Mahal may offer a clue

Would Indians import elephants?

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
12:20 pm

Thulsa

I am not on any sort of government welfare program or assistance, so when you say “you people”, who are you talking about? Why no mention of Republican voters who are on assistance. Oh, it doesn’t meet your narrative as long as you can say “well more Dem voters do it”………….

I do well for myself and always have, but thanks for your concern. I’d venture to say that I do better financially than some of the big talking right leaning bloggers who post here regularly. Do I know that for a fact? No, but it is my assumption.

When the economy collapsed in 07, did you look in the mirror and say you voted for it?

No you didn’t. You are one who likes to give credit when it meets your narrative and deflect when it doesn’t.

The President gets too much credit and blame for the economy. Goes with the job, but it is what it is.

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
12:20 pm

Bro

It’s their glasses, looking through them everyone looks orange like Boehnor

:-)

Tom Middleton

November 29th, 2012
12:21 pm

DannyX

Jon Huntsman is SANE. He never stood a chance!

Recon 0311 2533

November 29th, 2012
12:21 pm

I would hope the Congressional Republicans tell Obama so what if you won reelection, if all you can propose is dinging the top 2 or 3% of income earners with a 802 billion tax increase over 10 years which is nothing but political symbolism to pleasure your base and you can’t address spending cuts along with meaningful entitlement reform than we welcome you joining us as we go over the fiscal cliff.

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
12:22 pm

I think the Taj Mahal may offer a clue

I was going by unladen airspeed velocity.

Mick

November 29th, 2012
12:22 pm

nero=zero

Your the one moaning about leeches, life is just fine here in paradise. Try eating a peach, it’ll remove the sour taste…

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
12:22 pm

Don’t forget Obama even has a minority in his cabinet. Yep, there is a Republican cabinet member.

Brosephus™

November 29th, 2012
12:22 pm

ByteM2e @ 12:07

You missed one. :)

—————————

it is of my opinion that look at 100 people who pull the lever D vs 100 people who pull the lever R that there will be substantially more people who pull the lever D who are dependent on govt or on other taxpayers footing more of the share of the bill.

So, the CEOs of defense contractors, intelligence firms, and all other businesses that are dependent on government voted for Obama??? Really??? The head of KBR, Halliburton, and Blackwater voted for Obama??

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
12:23 pm

“Would Indians import elephants?”

doubtful.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
12:24 pm

“I was going by unladen airspeed velocity.”

dammit, woman, I’m on a conference call and nearly snorted.

Mick

November 29th, 2012
12:24 pm

recon

802 billion is a nice down payment toward deficit reduction. Leave social security out of it, but yes, medicare and medicare need to be dealt with along with other cuts in many non sustainable programs…

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
12:27 pm

“Try eating a peach, it’ll remove the sour taste…”

Love Song of Nero Prufrock?

Recon 0311 2533

November 29th, 2012
12:27 pm

mick, 802 billion over 10 years annualized would only fund the federal government for 8 days per year. Hardly a nice down payment on deficit reduction.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
12:28 pm

Who’s the leader of the club
That’s made for you and me
M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
Hey! there, Hi! there, Ho! there
You’re as welcome as can be
M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E :)

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
12:28 pm

Thulsa

And just so you know if you are not aware of it, one’s vote doesn’t count anymore or less based on their income.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
12:28 pm

Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.

I do not think that they will sing to me.

http://www.bartleby.com/198/1.html

(good lord, I haven’t read that for ages)

getalife

November 29th, 2012
12:29 pm

leechers are like birtheres.

Kooks.

murdoch forced new regulations to British media.

Regulations are added when they screw up.

At least betrayus admitted he screwed up .

Oscar

November 29th, 2012
12:29 pm

The country has gone one way, and the GOP in another direction.
Wonder which of the two will change.
My guess is it’s not going to be the country.

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 29th, 2012
12:30 pm

women rejected both his candidacy and his party

And I heard Michelle cut Barrack off for a week just for having that interloper into her house!

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
12:32 pm

Bro @ 12:22

That doesn’t count. Only when it is in a demeaning since of “dependence” does it really count.

:-)

Georgia

November 29th, 2012
12:33 pm

Today’s blog summary at 12:31 pm. There have been over two hundred and thirty comments. There were 27 “take your meds” reminders, 42 “what r u smoking” inquiries, and 159 expressions of superiority over another commenter. That’s the bad. The good is that there hasn’t been one reference to a tin foil hat. blog on.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:33 pm

stands,

are you just stupid? Does it not occur to you that people making under 30k are generally the ones reaping the most in govt benefits and paying the least in taxes? hence they vote D.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
12:34 pm

UsuK,

Courtsey real nice for your sovereign.

http://youtu.be/AwziS2aE6Ww

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
12:34 pm

“I think the Taj Mahal may offer a clue”

Or the size of the elephant’s ear (never mind that African elephants are not used as trained workers)

Mick

November 29th, 2012
12:35 pm

nero=zero @ 12:38

Bravisimo…I’m mortified atcha cha cha chaaa

larry

November 29th, 2012
12:36 pm

First he’s obsessed with leeches and now its mices, or mouses.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
12:36 pm

“hence they vote D”

Then why not say “all” instead of your 7 million more number?

Alex

November 29th, 2012
12:37 pm

@ Bro, hard to know about the the crowd you are referring to,;typically the Dems are viewed as BIG govt. so it makes sense for those that depend on Govt to vote Dem. The defense contractors may be a different kettle of fish, I know someone in that industry and frankly this administration has put in so many regs they have a tough time. Please note i did not say that the $ is not there, it is such a hassel to write the contracts, comply with regs., etc.

personally I think this adminisration flew by the seat of it’s collective economic pants, but it DID fly. We’re not Spain or Greece or France (real trouble there). Game changing now have to work together, he hasn’t shown much of an ability to do that ( see AHCA), we’ll see, HOPE springs eternal on a beautiful November day.

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 29th, 2012
12:37 pm

people making under 30k are generally the ones reaping the most in govt benefits

the average food stamp amount per day comes to $4 plus change. Are you serious?

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:37 pm

bro,

are there 47 million defense contractor ceos just like there are 47 million food stamp recipients? big business donates to both parties.

Mick

November 29th, 2012
12:37 pm

**Does it not occur to you that people making under 30k are generally the ones reaping the most in govt benefits and paying the least in taxes?**

What you’re describing matches the walmart “associate” to me; you really think they are pulling the dem lever? Nahhh

Nero

November 29th, 2012
12:39 pm

Hey Lawrence showed up! The leeches must have called in reinforcements.

Krystal'sBalls

November 29th, 2012
12:39 pm

OBAMA WINS!!! OBAMA WINS!!!! 4 MORE YEARS!!!!

Can I trade in my paid service for my “Obamaphone” and other “free stuff”??? I’m not the leecher, non-producer, or taker that some of these folk (who don’t really have much of $— themselves) like to whine about. I might however be mistaken for one if you catch me at the wrong time. The Grand Ole Party – dying a slow painful death. Interesting to witness I must say. It has to suck to harbor such contempt to the point you cannot pull yourself out from the drink even when there is a lifeline thrown to you – simply because it just isn’t in your fabric. That’s the sad part of it all. It’s like never being able to kick drinking alcohol….even AFTER you’ve been diagnosed with scirrhosis of the liver.

larry

November 29th, 2012
12:40 pm

Does it not occur to you that people making under 30k are generally the ones reaping the most in govt benefits and paying the least in taxes? hence they vote D.

Are you sure about that ? The average income in my county is 23, 500. Yet , Romney carried it by 20 points. Also, voted for Collins as 9th U.S. Rep as well as Gasaway for Ga. state rep.

Your argument doesnt hold water at all.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
12:40 pm

Keep insulting the voters doomy.

You are doing a heck of a job.

Go Dawgs!

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:40 pm

finn,

are you serious? forgot to consider all the other costly programs like medicaid did ya? u ain’t too bright are ya son.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
12:40 pm

“are there 47 million defense contractor ceos just like there are 47 million food stamp recipients? big business donates to both parties.”

And no one on any sort of government assistance votes Republican?

Oscar

November 29th, 2012
12:42 pm

The democrats are the party known for sensible government.

The GOP is know for the party that wants to dismantle all govt. programs and drown it in a bathtub.

guy

November 29th, 2012
12:43 pm

The dems will win because they are the party of takers and freeloaders. I am so impressed!

getalife

November 29th, 2012
12:44 pm

The leechers attack voters getting peanuts compared to the trillions of other corporate and military leeches.

Think big leechers and go after the trillions not millions.

Go big leechers.

the cat

November 29th, 2012
12:44 pm

Thulsa-are you now drinking during the day as well. Your comments to other bloggers are offensive and hopefully going to earn you a vacation from this blog.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
12:44 pm

Bookman

I could be mistaken but it has been awhile since Doom declared himself the victor or someone else the loser.

No need to wait for the “BOOM”. Have your office send out that “whooper chopper” prize you were waiting to give to the next “winner”…….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErDdQVLs0_k

Have to head up to Gwinnett Cty for a meeting. Yes even us lowly downtrodden mooching libs have to make a living. :-)

Peace

Alex

November 29th, 2012
12:44 pm

@ Georgia, the day is young….wait for it….

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:44 pm

Larry,

u ain’t too bright either are ya? my argument holds up quite well on a national basis. your local example is silly.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:46 pm

tbs,

by popular demand I’ll bring back the BOOM eventually.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
12:47 pm

doomy,

You are a con so stop pretending to be intelligent.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:48 pm

the cat,

you always amuse me. tanks. Doomy

Mick

November 29th, 2012
12:48 pm

doomy just likes to throw things out there, that do he like to do…

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
12:48 pm

are you just stupid? Does it not occur to you that people making under 30k are generally the ones reaping the most in govt benefits and paying the least in taxes?

Yeah, TD, I’m stupid. I don’t get how being an American citizen who, like the vast majority of citizens of civilized nations in the lower third or so of the earning scale, who happens to enjoy some government provided services, is a “leech.”

I’m so freaking stupid, in fact, that I don’t get how one (1) person who took a picture of some guy mooning a police vehicle constitutes multiple instances of “defecating on police cars”, as you’ve also posted.

I’m also so bewilderingly idiotic that I actually wonder if that one (1) woman who was captured on video that one (1) time carrying on a bit about car & mortgage payments is terribly representative of the actual reasons most Obama supporters carried with them into the voting booth.

Get this: I even wonder if out of all the conservative dipsh-ts who posted links to that bit of exuberance, if a single, solitary one of them ever took the time/trouble to see if anyone bothered to follow up with her, to see if she might actually be a perfectly normal, perhaps even hard-working and industrious woman, rather than some cartoon Negress beloved by sore losers.

I am that stupid. Yes.

/soapbox.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
12:49 pm

I think Doom is doing a great job in this sea of leeches and Bookman sycophants. Leeches always whine about being offended. Go Doomy!!

larry

November 29th, 2012
12:50 pm

I guess you never heard the phrase ” all politics are local “.

My local example is holds up , especially in the south.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
12:50 pm

Intellecterbation is the act of cons pretending to be intelligent.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:51 pm

tbs,

no one on assistance votes R? I never said that sir. Why is it that you guys have no sense of scale, proportion, or percentages when we talk about these things. geez.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
12:51 pm

“Courtsey real nice for your sovereign.”

well, Betty and I don’t hang out much … but when we do, I will show her respect by offering her a CURTSEY

(is a courtsey something you do at basketball??? tennis???)

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 29th, 2012
12:52 pm

Jon Stewart nails the Cons on their Susan Rice attacks. Remember Condi Rice doing something similar back in 2002? Lookie here:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/wed-november-28-2012-neil-young

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
12:53 pm

dB – 12:48 – nicely played.

Welcome to the Occupation

November 29th, 2012
12:53 pm

Nero: “No you just vote for ‘em. Indifference is acquiescence.”

Nope. Try again.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

Nero,

offending their meager sensibilities. what can i say? its how i roll.

Besides most libs wake up every morning looking to be offended later that day.

Fly-On-The-Wall

November 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

Hey Nero, how’s this for coming down off the wall – FOAD

Erwin's cat

November 29th, 2012
12:54 pm

the pendulum swings both ways…the GOP will reorganize and the Dems will overreach.. before ya know it the demographics will do a 180

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:55 pm

good grief. the libs think Jon Stewart is real news. too funny!

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:56 pm

Larry, it just doesn’t hold up nationally.

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 29th, 2012
12:57 pm

Thulsa,

forgot to consider all the other costly programs like medicaid did ya? u ain’t too bright are ya son.

You forgot to consider all the government programs that go to companies, all the laws and legal system set up to protect property holders,

You realize I don’t even have to ask you if you aren’t too bright…..your posts belie teh stoopid.

Madge From Accounting

November 29th, 2012
12:57 pm

Oh, it doesn’t meet your narrative as long as you can say “well more Dem voters do it”………….

More red states, as a whole, are on the Uncle Sam’s dole than blue states.

Tom Middleton: Jon Huntsman is SANE. He never stood a chance!

So true. In today’s GOP, he must seem like a relic.

Recon: I would hope the Congressional Republicans tell Obama so what if you won reelection, if all you can propose is dinging the top 2 or 3% of income earners with a 802 billion tax increase over 10 years which is nothing but political symbolism to pleasure your base and you can’t address spending cuts along with meaningful entitlement reform than we welcome you joining us as we go over the fiscal cliff.

Me too!! If the republicans let every person who makes $250K or less, (which is a substantial number of people), taxes go up then in the next election people who’ve never voted before will sign up to vote them out of office in 2014. No sense in prolonging their eventual demise. Vote NO! Republicans — get it over with already!

Nero

November 29th, 2012
12:57 pm

Maybe you can after your LABOUR party meeting. Of course you could always do it after another leech diatribe about race or people of COLOUR. British leech.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
12:58 pm

Erwin’s cat,

I do not think the Dems will spend like the gop when they have a rubber stamp congress for our President’s last two years.

They will probably over reach on something so you have hope for change in 16.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
12:58 pm

stands,

i wasn’t going to rub it in anymore but the self acknowledgment of stupidity is duly noted.

indigo

November 29th, 2012
12:58 pm

Nero – 12:28

I’m thinking you might be slightly too old for Mickey Mouse.

Jusin Bieber is right at your level.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
12:59 pm

doomy.

Stewert is like fox, rush and drudge.

Entertainment.

Another Steve

November 29th, 2012
12:59 pm

Dems definitley have the ability to better market their position to the masses. “We have a problem but we are are going to make someone else pay for fixing it”. I read the lib portrayal of how “Republicans want to cut taxes for the wealthy” when they are actually saying we should leave tax rates the same for everyone. I believe everyone understands that raising taxes on that small group will not solve our country’s problems so what is the true Dem plan beyond that? I think the majority of Americans should be fearful of the loose Dem definitions of “wealthy” and “fair share” because someone who thinks they are solidly middle class today may find themselves defined as “wealthy” tomorrow and that they too somehow don’t pay their “fair share”. When we, as a country, decide that we have a common problem and a majority and targets a minority to bear the brunt to solve the problem we are in trouble. If taxes need to go up they should go up for everyone (not that I want to pay more in taxes) but hopefully the Dems will someday realize the simple fact that you can’t tax yourself to prosperity and that sometimes you have to put your credit card away.

Brosephus™

November 29th, 2012
1:00 pm

are there 47 million defense contractor ceos just like there are 47 million food stamp recipients? big business donates to both parties.

Doom

You said nothing about donations. You claimed that those who are dependent on government vote Democratic, right?

http://news.yahoo.com/lockheed-martin-raises-compensation-ceo-elect-hewson-233352447–finance.html

Defense contractor Lockheed Martin Corp said Marillyn Hewson, set to become chief executive on January 1, would receive an annual base salary of $1.38 million and a target bonus percentage of 175 percent in 2013.

She’s taking over from the one who just had harrassment charges leveled against him. How much do you wanna bet that they vote Democratic? How much of Lockheed Martin’s profits come from non-governmental contracts?

Why don’t you and others leave that poor-bashing bullsh*t alone? Government dependence goes on at all income ranges and for all kinds of reasons. To try to blame that stuff on poor people along is ignorant and incorrect. That does, however, shine a spotlight on those who tend to look down their noses at other for being “poor”.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
1:00 pm

Fly do you need a hug? C’mere buddy. It’s ok. :)

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
1:00 pm

I want to know more about this elephant.

Is this elephant asian-elephant, african-elephant, latin-elephant or gay/lesbian elephant?

Is this elephant male or female?

Is the elephant a single mother?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
1:00 pm

“Of course you could always do it after another leech diatribe about race or people of COLOUR.”

wow.

really. I’m curious. what do you take for your mental imbalance? because whatever it is, you need to up your dosage.

the cat

November 29th, 2012
1:00 pm

I will submit Jon Stewart can back up his factual news better than Hannity, Boortz, et al. Yes he is an entertainer but he also has the proof. Let’s roll the tape…….

getalife

November 29th, 2012
1:01 pm

USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout) ,

How is the economy doing over there?

Did austerity work or made it worse?

TiredOfIt

November 29th, 2012
1:01 pm

Nero
November 29th, 2012
12:49 pm

I think Doom is doing a great job in this sea of leeches and Bookman sycophants. Leeches always whine about being offended. Go Doomy!!
++
Many are saying, it takes a leech to know one.

Also, are those garden torches primed for tonight? You know your father is having a party?

Steve

November 29th, 2012
1:03 pm

This is great!

The year is 1956. With his Cabinet of 8 wealthy businessmen and a labor leader, Dwight Eisenhower had been taxing America’s wealthy at 92% rates for 4 years and said: “We are proud of and shall continue our far-reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needs—expansion of social security—broadened coverage in unemployment insurance —improved housing—and better health protection for all
our people. We are determined that our government remain warmly responsive to the urgent social and economic problems of our people.”

Far from “strangling” the economy with “crushing” taxes on “job creators”, Eisenhower was able to report: “In four years we have achieved the highest economic level with the most widely shared benefits that the world has ever seen. We of the Republican Party have fostered this prosperity and are dedicated to its expansion and to the preservation of the climate in which it has thrived.”

When it was all said and done, America got a new Interstate Highway System, stayed in the Space Race, and fought the Cold War against Communism with those taxes – AND NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON COMPARED EISENHOWER TO MARX, LENIN OR HITLER.

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 29th, 2012
1:03 pm

Thula,
Most cons think Fox News is real, so what’s your point? Nobody strays too far from their core beliefs. If you are a laugher and happy with yourself, then you will most likely watch Jon Stewart. if you are an angry sociopath :) then you will most likely watch Fox News.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
1:04 pm

moonbat – are you channeling the artist formerly known (then known again) as Prince

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rmhr0_UAHE

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 29th, 2012
1:04 pm

Quit pickin on Nero….

He’s just “fiddlin’ about”

Like Wicked Uncle Ernie.

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 29th, 2012
1:06 pm

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
1:00 pm

And what was its role in the Benghazi situation?

Mick

November 29th, 2012
1:06 pm

steve

Nice…polite golf clap…

getalife

November 29th, 2012
1:06 pm

Stewart does cover the issues of the day but he is more entertaining than rush, murdoch and drudgey.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
1:06 pm

TiredofET is back! Yay!! Did your WoW quest end abruptly? LEROY JENKINS!!!!

Steve

November 29th, 2012
1:07 pm

@Another Steve:

The conservatives have lowered tax rates and increased military spending and that is where most of our problems lie. We only have to fine tune the safety net programs, but the problems is an agenda since the 1980s to STARVE GOVERNMENT. Who benefited? The rich. Remember the Robber Baron era from your high school history classes? We got away from that via progressive taxation and a strong middle class by the 1950s. We prospered. We also prospered when Clinton raised tax rates briefly.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
1:07 pm

Finn,

good lord son. you’re whining about all the laws set up to protect property. um.yeah. of course. property rights are cherished and protected in the constitution from people like you who seem to think others or govt should be able to pursue peoples property at will. people likeu r scary stupid. as for businesses a tax break is the govt simply confiscating less of that businesses money. its not as if they r giving the business anything. they are just taking less. Jesus h Christ where do people like u come from. and when business is paid by govt its usually for a given product or service. what product or service does a welfare leech give in return for his free shyte? gawd you make some asinine statements.

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
1:08 pm

“Quit pickin on Nero….

He’s just “fiddlin’ about”’

Don’t hug him, Mick! You don’t know where he’s been! :)

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 29th, 2012
1:08 pm

“How is the economy doing over there? Did austerity work or made it worse?”

Thanks to Tory austerity measures, we’ve been back in recession for 3 quarters …

Mr Right

November 29th, 2012
1:09 pm

Kind of pathetic how libs like Jay will blast the Republicans for not having more blacks in their party but when one is they blast them kike they are some evil person.

Erwin's cat

November 29th, 2012
1:09 pm

Steve…I thought it was the GOP who wanted to return to 1956??

Nero

November 29th, 2012
1:09 pm

Thanks Grand Marnier Godzilla! Good to see all the Boomer leeches are here! :)

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 29th, 2012
1:10 pm

Nero,
this “Leeeeeerooooy Jeeeeeenkinnnnsss”?

hehehe

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
1:10 pm

Thulsabot @ 1:07:

ERROR IN LINE 170

PEJORATIVE NOT FOUND

INSERT RANDOM NON-SEQUITUR

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
1:10 pm

Corbin,

i do watch Stewart. i just don’t take him seriously. and if u don’t take fox news seriously then i can safely assume u don’t take msnbc, dan rather, nbc,etc. seriously either.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 29th, 2012
1:10 pm

Oy vey…

The Onion is fake news although we know the Fox, Chinese and some conned believe it is real.

Jon Stewart, for the most part, discusses real events but NO one believes it is real news except for the conned who also believe Fox is reporting unskewed news.

Thomas Heyward Jr

November 29th, 2012
1:11 pm

“Oh take heart and caution………when men turn into oxen, wear the trap of females, and play silly games with balls……….. and take solace and perceived knowledge from a citizen depending on having more useful teats or spilt peas upon the amount of moorish or hebrew blood , ye verily…..when knowledge is abdicated to the corrupt central authority……….then ye shall know that your society is surely doomed”.
.
Odyssean Thermistocles….the Confederency of Delos 469 A.D.

Mick

November 29th, 2012
1:11 pm

doom

Take a deep breathe man, you really have gone off the reservation of late. It’s all good my friend, c’mon down for some drinks and party like its 1999…

Mr Right

November 29th, 2012
1:11 pm

Wow,my comment is awaiting moderation.

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 29th, 2012
1:13 pm

Stewart doesn’t try to make news – he doesn’t posit something far fetched and then offer no substance to back it up.

He is calling McCain and Graham hypocrites and then he shows the tape of proof. That’s what the cons can’t understand – how a tape shows proof and how we libs tape everything you Cons spit out yer pie holes.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
1:13 pm

sorry perfesser Joe mama but I’m on my Droid and not too concerned about it. just like I’m not too concerned about your onion either. nice to know i can still offend u without even trying. damn I’m good.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
1:14 pm

Finn,

At least I have chicken! ;)

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
1:15 pm

Mick,

brother I’m just having fun with my toys is all. besides i gotta head out in a minute anyhow. give em a breather.

Darwin

November 29th, 2012
1:15 pm

Republicans owe the re-election of Obama to the large turnout of the lower class. They feel the middle class still voted Republican. They have no plans to work on the lower class (that’s the 47% you know). Democrats (e.g. the diversified party) will fight to save Medicare and Social Security who benefit the white middle and upper class – and who voted for Romney (talk about irony). Lastly, what’s the big deal on raising taxes and those who make > $250K. The whole thing isn’t taxed at a higher rate. It’s only the income after $250K. It’s called a progressive tax system.

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
1:16 pm

“Odyssean Thermistocles….the Confederency of Delos 469 A.D.”

Sounds like a smart guy, Thomas…how’s his confederacy doing?

the cat

November 29th, 2012
1:17 pm

Finn- true, roll the tape!!!

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 29th, 2012
1:17 pm

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/leeches.html

For Nero, who apparently is an expert on who sux what.

Course I don’t find that surprising in the least.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 29th, 2012
1:18 pm

DAUNTING NUMBERS:

Obama …………..2

America …………..0

Yes ………. cultures change and countries fade away. It’s the march of history.

I am happy to have lived in a time when America was at it’s finest.

Brosephus™

November 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

“Shake of the yoke of tyranny placed upon you by your feudal overlords and tell them to ‘put deez in yo mouth’.”
–Thomas “Testocles” Jefferson

TiredOfIt

November 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

Nero
November 29th, 2012
1:06 pm

TiredofET is back! Yay!! Did your WoW quest end abruptly? LEROY JENKINS!!!!
++
Actually, I was mentoring someone in the art of software development. Not really a gamer.

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

Thulsa just hit the nail on the head @1307. I’m sure the basic, moderate Republican is no more like the ultra right Republican that has taken over the party than I am Einstein, but this same Party says they alone are the Party of God, They alone are pro life, and only they alone can show the way. But here’s Thulsa calling living humans leeches. Is his Party really Pro life if they are willing to throw other living human beings out in the cold? What are these people supposed to do. Get a job? Good luck with that because the Party that will show us the way has cut educational programs to the bone and even if they didn’t, there are no jobs to be had. So call God fearing Christians of the Republican party wanting to hurt the living would be laughable if it wasn’t so terribly sad.

Steve

November 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

@Erwin – they do want to return to 1956’s social values, but they are in denial that in the 1950s, CEO’s of companies lived much more modestly.

Madge From Accounting

November 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

are there 47 million defense contractor ceos just like there are 47 million food stamp recipients?

Do you realize that the most food stamp users come from “Red” states?

Cuts to Food Stamps will hit red states hardest

Here’s a chart for the data taken in 2007 (the last column is for Food Stamps per capita):

State Welfare recipients, 2007 Welfare recipients, 2008 Pct. change in welfare recipients Unemployment rate, 2007 Unemployment rate, 2008 Pct. pt. change in unemployment Food stamp recipients, 2007 Food stamp recipients, 2008 Pct. change in food stamp recipients
Alabama 42,920 41,849 -2.5 3.5 5.5 2 556,247 613,737 10.3
Alaska 7,974 7,316 -8.3 6.2 7.2 1 56,112 58,058 3.5
Arizona 88,235 88,781 0.6 3.9 6.1 2.2 606,973 734,403 21
Arkansas 21,075 19,689 -6.6 5.5 5.4 -0.1 376,021 387,956 3.2
California 1,144,529 1,216,866 6.3 5.7 8.2 2.5 2,104,426 2,398,897 14
Colorado 24,720 24,453 -1.1 3.9 5.7 1.8 246,532 272,982 10.7
Florida 74,994 87,632 16.9 4.3 7 2.7 1,345,162 1,694,649 26
Georgia 42,608 37,983 -10.9 4.5 6.9 2.4 971,241 1,139,309 17.3
Hawaii 10,617 10,890 2.6 2.8 4.6 1.8 92,486 105,100 13.6
Idaho 2,234 2,246 0.5 2.7 5.3 2.6 90,059 111,838 24.2
Illinois 68,001 62,525 -8.1 5.3 7.3 2 1,269,240 1,424,439 12.2
Indiana 117,097 113,572 -3 4.5 6.4 1.9 607,782 740,347 21.8
Iowa 42,174 38,500 -8.7 3.8 4.4 0.6 245,282 276,177 12.6
Kansas 34,391 31,215 -9.2 4 4.9 0.9 186,284 197,939 6.3
Kentucky 58,555 58,124 -0.7 5.4 6.8 1.4 620,114 663,591 7
Louisiana 21,841 19,545 -10.5 3.6 5.6 2 642,999 687,571 6.9
Maine 34,224 34,401 0.5 4.9 5.7 0.8 169,531 186,715 10.1
Maryland 52,084 57,601 10.6 3.6 4.9 1.3 342,095 402,892 17.8
Massachusetts 108,077 110,419 2.2 4.3 5.5 1.2 479,248 563,068 17.5
Michigan 226,520 196,775 -13.1 7.5 9.3 1.8 1,225,285 1,303,093 6.4
Minnesota 76,525 78,348 2.4 4.6 5.9 1.3 272,522 292,862 7.5
Mississippi 24,052 23,714 -1.4 6.3 7.2 0.9 442,007 472,537 6.9
Missouri 111,780 101,916 -8.8 5.4 6.5 1.1 854,513 949,404 11.1
Montana 7,836 8,091 3.3 3.2 4.8 1.6 78,911 81,735 3.6
Nebraska 23,790 23,067 -3 3.1 3.7 0.6 119,939 121,416 1.2
Nevada 21,062 21,796 3.5 5.1 7.7 2.6 132,935 162,743 22.4
New Hampshire 11,270 12,069 7.1 3.3 4.1 0.8 60,376 68,114 12.8
New Jersey 97,358 94,297 -3.1 4.2 6 1.8 420,166 456,010 8.5
New Mexico 34,346 38,219 11.3 3.3 4.3 1 231,074 258,130 11.7
New York 408,313 391,110 -4.2 4.6 5.7 1.1 1,825,759 2,025,853 11
North Carolina 47,898 49,653 3.7 4.7 7.1 2.4 896,913 1,012,481 12.9
North Dakota 6,700 7,295 8.9 3.2 3.4 0.2 47,306 49,293 4.2
Ohio 172,074 179,595 4.4 5.7 7.3 1.6 1,108,749 1,207,998 9
Oklahoma 20,686 19,170 -7.3 4.3 4.3 0 419,604 432,642 3.1
Oregon 44,803 53,353 19.1 5.4 7.2 1.8 443,316 499,012 12.6
Pennsylvania 212,788 199,273 -6.4 4.4 5.8 1.4 1,157,888 1,234,892 6.7
Rhode Island 24,093 19,908 -17.4 5.1 9.3 4.2 81,417 90,444 11.1
South Carolina 32,886 38,050 15.7 6 7.9 1.9 569,204 636,698 11.9
South Dakota 5,929 6,172 4.1 2.9 3.2 0.3 60,433 65,159 7.8
Tennessee 151,843 144,705 -4.7 5 7 2 891,779 977,109 9.6
Texas 136,797 115,690 -15.4 4.3 5.6 1.3 2,322,073 2,651,370 14.2
Utah 11,218 12,324 9.9 2.8 3.5 0.7 130,425 156,033 19.6
Vermont 12,017 12,922 7.5 3.9 5.2 1.3 53,154 60,062 13
Virginia 62,715 65,546 4.5 3.2 4.4 1.2 527,906 582,494 10.3
Washington 112,583 124,937 11 4.6 6.3 1.7 542,599 631,487 16.4
West Virginia 21,223 22,927 8 4.7 4.6 -0.1 273,852 285,242 4.2
Wisconsin 38,803 37,811 -2.6 4.8 5.1 0.3 394,494 469,853 19.1
Wyoming 478 613 28.2 2.9 3.3 0.4 23,591 24,993 5.9

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/01/25/us/20090126-welfare-table.html

http://www.politicususa.com/fox-news-food-stamps.html

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
1:19 pm

AND NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON COMPARED EISENHOWER TO MARX, LENIN OR HITLER.

now now. I guaran-damn tee you that there were Birchers who were doing so by the end of his second term (the John Birch Society was founded in ‘58).

Difference between then and today–well, allow me to let ol’ Ike explain:

“There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”

Steve

November 29th, 2012
1:20 pm

@0311 – yep, we were at our finest post 2 terms of George Bush, the great recession, two failing wars, the housing industry in collapse.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
1:20 pm

Thulsabot — “nice to know i can still offend u”

Punkin, you don’t even *rise* to the level of being offensive any more. :D

“without even trying. damn I’m good.”

Good for a laugh, maybe. Not much else. (giggling, pointing) :D

Not Blind

November 29th, 2012
1:21 pm

You won. Why are you still hashing out the numbers? Why aren’t you putting forth your collective vision for moving the country into a new and better direction ??

The reason you are not doing this is because the country is headed in the direction the [D] faithful think is best. Think Greece.

Pro Government Stooge

November 29th, 2012
1:21 pm

Bruce Bartlett, Fox News, bla, bla, bla.

Rinse, lather, foam, repeat.

Shoddy journalism, much?

Nero

November 29th, 2012
1:22 pm

Thanks Grandma! Bless your heart! How’s the Generation of Voting for more benefits these days? You ready for sequestration?

saywhat?

November 29th, 2012
1:22 pm

“……..more entertaining than rush, murdoch and drudgey.”
—————————————————————————————–

Not much of a compliment. Being more entertaining than those three is like being smarter than a small soap dish.

Steve

November 29th, 2012
1:22 pm

And just remember that Georgia had the second lowest percentage for Romney among Red states.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
1:22 pm

How will our resident cons ever survive FOUR MORE YEARS!. :lol:

I hoping that Michelle will run for president next. EIGHT MORE YEARS!

The poor cons will all be sporting heavy duty chains and padlocks on top of their current attire of straight jackets by then.

RB from Gwinnett

November 29th, 2012
1:23 pm

TD, “sorry perfesser Joe mama but I’m on my Droid and not too concerned about it. just like I’m not too concerned about your onion either. nice to know i can still offend u without even trying. damn I’m good.”

Ain’t it always a good day when you can get Joey (laughing, pointing) in his posts while he calls himself an adult?!! Hey Joey, tell us all again how there is a “Big difference between “taking somebody down” and ‘taking someone down a notch or two.” That’s always a riot!!!!

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
1:23 pm

“I am happy to have lived in a time when America was at it’s finest.”

Me, too, Mr. Digits! Let’s enjoy it while it lasts! :)

YouLibs

November 29th, 2012
1:24 pm

Nero

Every day you waste here acting like a spoiled child is taking you closer and closer to your inevitable death. You know you can’t get those days back, right? You should spend less time here trolling and more time reflecting on the incredible preciousness of human life. For your sake, not mine.

You’re welcome.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 29th, 2012
1:24 pm

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
1:24 pm

“I am happy to have lived in a time when America was at it’s finest.”

Oh how I wish we were back to the good ol’ days of the costly unfunded unnecessary Iraq war. The fun 800,000 monthly job losses. The wonderful shrinking GDP. 9-11!

and just remember folks…

Countrywide is on your side!

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
1:24 pm

Think Greece.

ha ha ha.

that will never not be funny.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 29th, 2012
1:26 pm

Nero

November 29th, 2012
1:22 pm
Thanks Grandma! Bless your heart! How’s the Generation of Voting for more benefits these days? You ready for sequestration?

.
.
.
Ready? Of course….Our financial advisor made some suggestions that we
followed.

You?

saywhat?

November 29th, 2012
1:27 pm

Madge from accounting @ 1:15- You think thulsa will EVER admit that people voting Dem don’t do it to GET free government stuff for themselves, but to GIVE free government stuff to the people too stupid to vote in their own and this country’s best interests?

Nope.

Flying High

November 29th, 2012
1:28 pm

“I am happy to have lived in a time when America was at it’s finest.”

Except for the fact that a percentage of every generation has said the same exact thing since the inception of the country, you might have a point somewhere in your deluded mind.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
1:29 pm

“Thanks to Tory austerity measures, we’ve been back in recession for 3 quarters …”

Thanks, any estimates on when the recession will end?

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
1:29 pm

President Obama is likely to give in on select cuts that the antiqued white party’s mouthpieces have been telling them need to be cut for their own good including food stamps, medicare, medicaid, unemployment benefits, and retirement benefits for retired federal workers and veterans. After all, that is what Republicans want in exchange for the tax increases on the wealthy that are needed to help pay down their debt. It’s the least we can do for them.

Lynnie Gal

November 29th, 2012
1:29 pm

Thanks, US in UK for: “It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.” –Charles Darwin

Guess since Republicans have been home schooled and didn’t get the science curriculum, they’re not going to know what you’re talking about.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
1:30 pm

Fly-On-The-Wall

November 29th, 2012
1:31 pm

Nero, no thanks. You’re nothing but a nihilist and I have no time for someone with that outlook on the world.

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
1:31 pm

“Thanks to Tory austerity measures, we’ve been back in recession for 3 quarters …”

Republicans say, “Yeah that’s what WE should do!!!! Because they loves them some European economic policies!

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
1:34 pm

RB — “Ain’t it always a good day when you can get Joey (laughing, pointing) in his posts while he calls himself an adult?!!”

Grow up, RB. (giggling) :D

“Hey Joey, tell us all again how there is a “Big difference between “taking somebody down” and ‘taking someone down a notch or two.” That’s always a riot!!!!”

Where are my fleet fueling figures, RB? :D

From the "What the hell was I thinking" department.

November 29th, 2012
1:36 pm

Mitt Romney face tattoo man does an about-face

“But then he heard some of Romney’s post-election comments, most notably his claim that the president won reelection because of “gifts” given to various constituencies.

“It stands not only for a losing campaign but for a sore loser,” Hartsburg said. “He’s pretty shameful as far as I’m concerned, man. There’s no dignity in blaming somebody else for buying votes and paying off people. I can’t get behind that or stay behind that.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84350.html?hp=r6

Peter

November 29th, 2012
1:36 pm

Gosh the out of touch Republican’s are clamoring for Democrat’s to grow up….. Not saying either party has very much leadership…….. but gosh can we get past the Grammar school behavior on the part of the Republican’s ?

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
1:40 pm

“There’s no dignity in blaming somebody else for buying votes and paying off people. I can’t get behind that or stay behind that.”

wow. That might be the single most eloquent thing ever uttered by a guy who auctioned off his face to be tattooed.

RB from Gwinnett

November 29th, 2012
1:41 pm

Grow up, RB. (giggling)

Does anybody else find that funny as hell? LMAO!!!

getalife

November 29th, 2012
1:41 pm

Our government thought of nuking the moon to scare the commies.

The newt would be nuked.

Jay

November 29th, 2012
1:42 pm

Mr. Right, your comment was put into automatic moderation because of an unfortunate typo. You can now look back at it to see for yourself.

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

November 29th, 2012
1:44 pm

The GOP built this …lol

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
1:45 pm

RB — “Does anybody else find that funny as hell? LMAO!!!”

Hurry up with those fleet fueling figures, Punkin. (giggle) :D

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
1:45 pm

RB from Gwinnett,

the difference between “taking someone down” and “taking someone down a notch or 2″ ? Perfesser Joe do love his semantics games. lord knows he is the king of the semantics tap dance. (laughing, giggling, jeering, pointing, etc.)

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
1:46 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
1:50 pm

Doom — “Perfesser Joe do love his semantics games. lord knows he is the king of the semantics tap dance.”

Don’t hate me because I’m literate, Doom. Strive to be more like me. I know you can do it. (snicker) :D

Steve

November 29th, 2012
1:51 pm

It truly amuses me to go to conservative blogs and read comments, as I posted earlier. I love how conservatives whine and rant about “less government” when they are often the biggest government takers in our poorer red states. The rich do the same whining, but how do you think they got rich? The government provided the framework,the workers, the federal aid,the infrastructure, you name it. But once they get rich, they act like all they need now to do is live in a walled, armed gated community a la South Africa and all is well.

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
1:51 pm

automatic moderation because of an unfortunate typo.

You sure it was a typo? Who among us does not enjoy blasting some of them k!kes?

yuzeyurbrane

November 29th, 2012
1:52 pm

Not to mention all those old white men who will be dieing. Remember the Whigs!

Simple Truths

November 29th, 2012
1:52 pm

Corbin

November 29th, 2012
11:32 am
Young and stupid and no aptitude for sarcasm…

You were blessed with the triple crown during your youth.

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
1:54 pm

RB,

its funny alright. just not in the way Joe hoped. i mean who the hell does that with the (pointing, laughing) bit. its likea 6th grader. it is fun to do it in mockery of him I admit.

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
1:54 pm

The government provided the framework,the workers, the federal aid,the infrastructure, you name it.

And if you point that out, they go so nutzoid they actually make their over-reaction to your common-sense comments the theme of their national convention.

mm

November 29th, 2012
1:55 pm

Delicious irony.

The popular vote for Romney is barely above 47%.

RB from Gwinnett

November 29th, 2012
1:55 pm

Joey, “Hurry up with those fleet fueling figures, Punkin. (giggle)”

Still trying to get a Republican to do your homework for you Joey? Just like back in school, eh? No can do, Joey. Go look it up yourself for a change!!

jconservative

November 29th, 2012
1:57 pm

The Democrats lost the popular vote in 5 of 6 presidential elections and in 1992 moved their party to the center and have since won the popular vote in 5 of 6 presidential elections.

Will the Republicans do the same?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
1:57 pm

RB — “Still trying to get a Republican to do your homework for you Joey?”

Nope — trying to get a Republican to do *his own* homework. (snicker) :D

“Just like back in school, eh? No can do, Joey. Go look it up yourself for a change!!”

Get me those fleet fueling figures, RB. You claimed it, so you back it up. Get to work, slacker. :D

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
1:57 pm

Thulsa Doom

November 29th, 2012
1:58 pm

perfeser Joe, strive to be more like you? I’ll pass- fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.

Obamaneisha

November 29th, 2012
1:59 pm

Lookin @ that pic @ top of the page, guess it’s supposed to represent an R being pulled to water by a D?

In my mind’s eye in the next frame I see the elephant wrapping his trunk around the dumbass D pulling on his ear and power slammin him into the mud.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
1:59 pm

Doom — ” i mean who the hell does that with the (pointing, laughing) bit. its likea 6th grader.”

I do it because you’ve admitted on multiple occasions that it irritates you. Simple as that.

You can claim all you like that you think it’s funny, but you’ve let it slip that it hacks you off.

Too bad. Maybe next time you can keep your poker face up longer. (giggling) :D

Erwin's cat

November 29th, 2012
1:59 pm

Steve @ 1:51
do you have any stats to back up that rant against the rich? If creating wealth is that easy, and that assisted, how come you and everyone else aren’t doing the same?

Jack ®

November 29th, 2012
2:00 pm

When Obama runs out of free stuff, I suppose he’ll go back to his blame-Bush theme. Seems to work well for him.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
2:02 pm

Doom — “perfeser Joe, strive to be more like you? I’ll pass- fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.”

It certainly *is* no way to go through life — which begs the question of why you’d want to stay that way and not be more like me. :D

We already know you drink, and we can read your posts here, so there are two of the three pejoratives supported already. And you’ve been complaining in recent weeks of filling your Speedo out too well, so I think that ‘fat, drunk and stupid’ label fits you a whole lot better than it does me, Cupcake. (laughing, pointing) :D

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
2:10 pm

When Obama runs out of free stuff

when DOES the richest, most powerful nation ever on Earth literally run out this “stuff” I keep hearing about?

I was thinking maybe I should lay in some root veggies, some canned goods, some water, ammo, etc. when we approach that date. Why don’t you let me know?

I promise not to spread the word around too much. It can be between us Bookmaniax.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
2:19 pm

TomRicks was wrong to call Fox News a “wing of the Republican Party.” The Republican Party is a wing of Fox News.

Heh, heh, heh.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
2:21 pm

COLD SPRING HARBOR, NY–(Marketwire – Nov 29, 2012) – Management retirees of Verizon Communications Inc. ( NYSE : VZ ) have filed a federal lawsuit to halt their former employer’s plan to sell off 41,000 Employee Retirement Income Security Act (ERISA) protected pensions to the Prudential Insurance Company of America ( NYSE : PRU ) in exchange for providing Prudential with $7.5 billion in Verizon retirees’ pension assets. If the pension spinoff, which was expected to close in December, is not halted, beginning in January 2013, Prudential will replace retirees’ pensions with insurance annuities that are not ERISA-protected.

YIKES!

F. Sinkwich

November 29th, 2012
2:24 pm

“Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) slammed the door Thursday morning on Democratic demands to raise tax rates on families earning more than $250,000 per year. “We’re insisting on keeping tax rates where they are, first and foremost, to protect jobs and because we don’t think government needs the money in the first place,” McConnell said on the Senate floor.”

Good job, Mitch. Resistance to the welfare state will ultimately be futile, but Americans should fight the good fight to the inevitable end.

harvey

November 29th, 2012
2:26 pm

Sure, all the minorities joined up and became the majority. So we are a nation of minorities, many of whom are on welfare of one sort or another. doesn’t bode well for the future of the country. But then democracies always fail because the entitlement class will eventually outstrip the contributors. Keep on enjoying yourself kids, but the money will dry up and then you will be eating each other.

guy

November 29th, 2012
2:27 pm

Country at its finest? Same sex marriage,drug epidemic and getting worse,welfare out of control,and more and more uneducated people equals this country at its finest? Wow!!!!!!!!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
2:27 pm

can someone set up a HFT algorithm which automatically bets against whatever karl rove says

Heh, heh, heh.

Dharma Bum

November 29th, 2012
2:31 pm

As these blog posts clearly demonstrate, America will remain stagnant well into the decade of 2020. Neither party is willing to take responsibility for their respective screw ups and choose to blame someone/something else rather than doing their job… No one wants to talk issues anymore, everything is just snark, “suck it ,” and idiotic catchphrases pumped into us by the RNC, DNC, DailyKos, and Drudge.

The national deficit is the single most important issue facing the U.S. and no one seems to understand that it will take compromise, rather than a hardline approach of strictly taxing the rich or massive spending cuts, to get us out of the ridiculous hole both parties have gotten us into.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
2:32 pm

So Mitch says the government doesn’t need to pay it’s debt now. Interesting.

Fly-On-The-Wall

November 29th, 2012
2:33 pm

Dharma – I agree.

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
2:34 pm

During Romney’s visit to the White House today Romney asked if he could use Obama’s phone.

Brosephus™

November 29th, 2012
2:34 pm

Will the Republicans do the same?

Nope. Moderation in the current GOP is a much worse infraction than being a married gay couple.

St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014

November 29th, 2012
2:35 pm

“Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”
–Eisenhower, the last sane Republican

May that statement be true again soon, real soon.

The most frustrating, ugly, nauseating part of my 25 year career,
and the reason I almost quit at least one time was/is -
babysitting or bailing out unethical cons.
I never had to do that even once for a progressive client.
That may be anecdotal, but it is also true.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 29th, 2012
2:36 pm

Golly gee….who’d a thought love and kindness and brotherhood
was so toxic to the “christian” right?

Somebodys stockin’s will be filled with coal!

Lotta folks (ok 2 folks, 8 or 9 sock puppets) here won’t
pass that “checkin’ it twice” test.

Such a pity.

Redcoat

November 29th, 2012
2:36 pm

Asking any Democrat to answer this question….Do you own it now?… and if not when?

getalife

November 29th, 2012
2:37 pm

President Obama 2.

cons 0.

Get out of the way of free enterprise gop.

F. Sinkwich

November 29th, 2012
2:38 pm

“So Mitch says the government doesn’t need to pay it’s debt now. Interesting.”

Some people read funny. Not like ha-ha but like obtuse…

Mick

November 29th, 2012
2:38 pm

Mitch is a loser, we don’t need the revenue? Isn’t that all the repubs have been harping about the past four years – deficits? Mitch mcconnell is a disgrace to the senate, he can take his filibusters and put them where the sun don’t shine…ditch mitch in 14…

Rightwing Troll

November 29th, 2012
2:38 pm

Here’s one o them damn union moochers and gubbimint employees/takers (who are stealing your money wingnuts, by earning a paycheck) at work:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50007300

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 29th, 2012
2:39 pm

“Kindness is the language the blind
can see and the deaf can hear.” – Mark Twain

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
2:40 pm

Anybody got wipes to clean up that bullsh*t @ 2:26? Seems that somebody’s afraid of teh minorities. Get used to it because America is Browning Up.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
2:40 pm

….Do you own it now?… and if not when?

(sigh) And which “it” is that?

JohnnyReb

November 29th, 2012
2:40 pm

For all you gloating Moonbats, here’s a sobering fact courtesy of Bill Whittle.

Despite all the things Republicans are accussed of doing badly, many from the keyboard of this blogs author and followers, the Country remains almost divided in half as to political party preference.

To be back in power, all we Republicans have to do is a few things right and the balance shifts to us.

So, it is not the gloom and doom Jay and the Left wing propaganda machine puts forth. It’s still a matter of about three million votes in the right place.

If I was a Moonbat, God forbid, I would be more interested in fixing things to meet voter expectations than wallowing in short-lived glory.

Flying High

November 29th, 2012
2:41 pm

“I’ll pass- fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.”

Glad you realized that and one can only hope you are making attempts to change those negative aspects about yourself.

mm

November 29th, 2012
2:41 pm

White House press secretary Jay Carney said Thursday there will be no deficit deal unless Republicans agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest households.

“There can be no deal without rates on top earners going up,” said Carney, who reiterated that the president will not sign legislation that extends the Bush-era tax rates for the wealthy.

“This should not be news to anyone who was not in a coma during campaign season,” Carney said of the president’s stance on taxes.

I see a tax hike coming for everyone. So we’ll just go back to the Clinton tax rates. That’s good for the deficit.

St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014

November 29th, 2012
2:43 pm

the good news for these cons is, their credibiliity cannot go below zero.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
2:43 pm

To be back in power, all we Republicans have to do is a few things right and the balance shifts to us.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

Do the Republicans have it in them to do those things?

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
2:45 pm

Republicans just didn’t get their message delivered eloquently enough. hehehe

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
2:47 pm

To be back in power, all we Republicans have to do is a few things right and the balance shifts to us.

Hope you’re stocked up on wishes and magic, because the GOP’s present performance statistics are awful. Instead of a few things right, I would be happy if y’all did everything right or even one thing right. Then again, I don’t expect perfection from anybody.

Libertarian & Proud

November 29th, 2012
2:47 pm

Daunting Numbers for Democrats, who as Jay has just pointed out, now are OFFICALLY in charge of:
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, ‘Affordable’ Health Care (our newest TAX), the National Debt ($7 Trillion of which belongs to Obama in less than 4 years), keeping track of the cover stories & cover-ups for Fast & Furious & Libya….. No more running away and blaming Bush, Mr President, time to take responsibility (cough).

JohnnyReb

November 29th, 2012
2:47 pm

“There can be no deal without rates on top earners going up,”

So it’s true. Obama will sacrifice the economy unless he gets a symbolic victory.

Raising the rates on those over 250K can’t be anything other than symbolic as doing so is a drop in the bucket on fixing the problems. Never mind that doing so will also result in slower growth and less employment. What really matters is sticking it to the rich because they did not earn their money themselves.

I don’t know if the Country can stand four more years of this BS.

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
2:48 pm

Eisenhower, the last sane Republican

I dunno. I would go so far as to say GHW Bush was sane. I didn’t vote for him, but I could’ve lived with a second term had that happened.

But it’s been a pretty dry spell since then, at least in terms of nationally known GOP figures.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
2:48 pm

With time running out, House Speaker John Boehner blasted the Obama administration on Thursday, saying “the White House has to get serious” in talks to avert the “fiscal cliff.”

Oh come on, John boy. Every time President Obama gets serious with you, you burst out in tears. You can’t handle the truth.

Marietta Al

November 29th, 2012
2:49 pm

Why do people care so much about others wealth?! I just don’t get it. Rich this poor that, who gives a @#$@#$? Who determines that someone is wealthy and has so much disposable income that they can afford more of their money to go to the government? Why should one group of persons be punished while others not? Can some responsible democrat answer these questions? I am right in the middle of the middle class by no means “rich” and I am totally for letting the rates for ALL go up out of principle (contrary to my party affiliation) and the SS 2% increase just to see the fixed income and lower income democrats squirm when they bring home 7-10% less of their income. Sometimes a hard lesson will prove a point.

Flying High

November 29th, 2012
2:49 pm

JohnnyReb

Country made it through Bush. Good or bad, we will make through Obama.

catlady

November 29th, 2012
2:49 pm

They could play, “The Way We Were,” but Mitt didn’t know from one minute to the next what he believed in, so he probably would not understand it.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
2:49 pm

There is nothing right about the right.

These Americans are lost.

JohnnyReb

November 29th, 2012
2:50 pm

For Kamie and Brosephus – here’s a link I posted earlier you may have missed. I think it clearly shows we do have winning in us and that the tactics are changing.

http://blip.tv/davidhorowitztv/bill-whittle-6444929

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
2:50 pm

all we Republicans have to do is a few things right

Like what? You’re running out of angry white guys and you’re against gay marriage, your reproductive options are kind of limited. Unless you start cloning yourselves you’re down the crapper of history.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
2:51 pm

Republicans really fail at basic math. In 2009, the year when we bottomed out in terms of private sector employment, individuals reporting AGI’s over $200k earned about 1.9 trillion dollars. I think they can afford to pay a few thousand more and never even miss it.

guy

November 29th, 2012
2:52 pm

Johnny Reb,
Leave liberals alone and they will destroy it all. Spain and Greece come to mind but you know the U.S. is exempt from falling!

St Simons - he-ne-ha BOOTAKOOK 2014

November 29th, 2012
2:52 pm

go in the White House, Barack, shut the door and lock it. Do it.

Don’t come out til Jan 2nd.
MAKE them pass something.
Slap them like the beaches they are.
Watch the cons pee on themselves.
Put it on Youtube.
It’ll be hilarious.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 29th, 2012
2:52 pm

Johnny Reb

“To be back in power, all we Republicans have to do is a few things right and the balance shifts to us.”

A few really REALLY BIG things.

Things you still just don’t get.

But, the very best of luck to you in your attempt.

Mick

November 29th, 2012
2:52 pm

reb

Gee, how did we ever survive the 90’s with those tax rates? Plenty of new millionires and billionaires were born, stop crying for the rich – they can damn well afford it…

The Kid

November 29th, 2012
2:52 pm

There was a time when only the ‘white’, male, landowner could vote or hold office. That would eliminate many of my esteemed writers above, I’m sure. Indentured servitude would be your lot or worse. Maybe tho’, yalls’ lord and savior Rush would hire you as overseers. You could put that ‘boy’ Obama in hisn place. Cain’t you just imagine a quiet magnolia evenin’ with cousin Hannity and Beck over fo’ some cold lemonade or cigars and bourbon. My,my.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
2:52 pm

I think it clearly shows we do have winning in us and that the tactics are changing.

Most current evidence is to the contrary.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
2:54 pm

JohnnyReb: Raising the rates on those over 250K can’t be anything other than symbolic as doing so is a drop in the bucket on fixing the problems.

Obama gave the GOP their symbolic drop in the bucket last year by hitting fed workers for $75 Billion over 10 years with the pay freeze and increased pension deductions. Why should I have to give up any more than someone who can earn my 2 year’s salary in a matter of hours? Raising rates 3 percent ain’t gonna kill this country. Even with those rates, this country will still be THE place to live. You can’t get protection, benefits, and the general style of living anywhere else in the world that you can get here.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
2:54 pm

Do what our President wants cons.

You need to get your party out of the way of our economy.

Cut that regulation cons.

Jay

November 29th, 2012
2:58 pm

JohnnyReb, the speaker in the video that you keep citing lauds Michele Bachmann as one of the few Republican leaders who truly believes Republican orthodoxy.

Doesn’t that worry you, the fact that only a crazy woman could actually believe that stuff?

Libertarian and Proud

November 29th, 2012
2:58 pm

I love how partisan’s leave out stats that do not support their “argument”, in this case the results of the House races. Of the 435 up for grabs, Republicans won a clear majority – for the 2nd time under an Obama Presidency. The “House” represents the “average” voter – draw your own conclusions.

Flying High

November 29th, 2012
2:58 pm

JohnnyReb

Is that the same David Horowitz who has had many claims and assertions in his books debunked as lies?

Look it up then get back with me

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
2:58 pm

JReb: I think it clearly shows we do have winning in us and that the tactics are changing.

You completely misunderstand me. I WANT the GOP to do things right. I surely hope the tactics are changing from protecting certain people to doing what’s right for ALL of America. I would vote GOP 10 times out of 10 if they were doing what’s right for America. The current far-right thinking is NOT what I, or most Americans, see as the right choice. That’s why the GOP has lost the popular vote 5 out of the last 6 elections.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
2:58 pm

A few really REALLY BIG things.

Things you still just don’t get.

Evidently the only problem is that not enough of them clap for Tinker Bell.

JohnnyReb

November 29th, 2012
2:59 pm

So Aquagirl, in your mind the fate of the country should be determined by gender, color of skin, age, and whether or not one favors gay marriage? All along I thought you were against prejudices.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
3:01 pm

Marietta Al — “Why should one group of persons be punished while others not? Can some responsible democrat answer these questions?”

If you think that paying a higher tax rate constitutes ‘punishment,’ then there’s not much point in us trying to have a polite discussion with you.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
3:02 pm

JReb

Your link is more of the same. Your guy’s talking about how America has the 40th highest tax rate for businesses. Yet, at the same time, Conservatives bash GE for not paying taxes. He doesn’t get the disconnect, nor do you it seems, from the disjointed messaging.

You can give that message until blue in the face. If that message doesn’t match reality, nobody with common sense or a grip on reality will buy it.

F. Sinkwich

November 29th, 2012
3:03 pm

“JohnnyReb: Raising the rates on those over 250K can’t be anything other than symbolic as doing so is a drop in the bucket on fixing the problems.”

But it makes the lib ilks feel good (see Bro’s response).

It’s a hippie thing — if it feels good do it.

JohnnyReb

November 29th, 2012
3:03 pm

First, the speaker in the video is Bill Whittle, it just happens to be on David Horowitz video.

Jay, we obviously disagree on Mrs Bachmann, and so do a majority of voters in Minnesota. That in itself is telling since she remains popular in very Liberal state.

Put the Bachmann reference aside and listen to Whittle. He hits it right on the money. I especially like the part about James Bond defending himself with a letter from the UN. Surely even you thinks that’s funny.

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
3:04 pm

in your mind the fate of the country should be determined by gender, color of skin, age, and whether or not one favors gay marriage?

I have no idea what you’re talking about or what kind of point you were attempting to make….you might want to see a neurologist ASAP about those disconnected speech patterns.

Libertarian and Proud

November 29th, 2012
3:04 pm

Fun with Math: Obama’s contribution to the National Debt: $7,000,000,000,000 in 45 months, or
$5,185,000,000 PER DAY! (That’s 5 BILLION people). But I’m sure that new “tax the rich” plan will fix all of that and “cut the deficit in half” like Obama promised,

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
3:05 pm

But it makes the lib ilks feel good (see Bro’s response).

I see the bees buzzing between your ears again have you feeling like you can actually think. Please stop trying to think before you hurt yourself. You more than articulate my point for me. Conservatives are no different than they claim Democrats are. They are perfectly fine with getting into everyone’s pockets as long as it’s not theirs.

JohnnyReb

November 29th, 2012
3:06 pm

Aquagirl – I was responding to your post below. Now who can’t remember?

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
2:50 pm

all we Republicans have to do is a few things right

Like what? You’re running out of angry white guys and you’re against gay marriage, your reproductive options are kind of limited. Unless you start cloning yourselves you’re down the crapper of history.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
3:09 pm

… listen to Whittle. He hits it right on the money.

No he swings and misses.

His message is one of sincerity, or lack there of. I am reminded of the late Brother Long and his favorite line, “You can be sin-ceeeerr-ah, but you can be … sin-cerely wrong.”

Union

November 29th, 2012
3:09 pm

sadly.. its almost as if you need the extreme right to balance the extreme left.. once the govt shifts to being completely controlled by the dems there will be no going back and the end of the country as we know it. we will go the way of greece and california.. nice.

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
3:10 pm

Why do people care so much about others wealth?!

Marietta Al, I think Willie Sutton answer *that* already. However…

I just don’t get it. Rich this poor that, who gives a @#$@#$?

I do. One’s net worth determines how secure one will be; it allows one to (for example) seek medical care when needed, to replace an old, polluting, gas-guzzling vehicle with a more earth friendly one, etc. These are to the nation’s overall benefit.

Who determines that someone is wealthy and has so much disposable income that they can afford more of their money to go to the government?

It is a judgement call, to be sure, but I think determining that those in the upper 2% or so of income earners, generally, are probably not going to be “punished” (to use your term) by a modest rate increase.

Why should one group of persons be punished while others not?

Echoing JHM @ 3.01–I think “punished” is a rather loaded term, so…

Can some responsible democrat answer these questions?

I think it would be irresponsible for me to answer that last one. But I tried my best on the rest.

I am right in the middle of the middle class by no means “rich” and I am totally for letting the rates for ALL go up out of principle (contrary to my party affiliation) and the SS 2% increase just to see the fixed income and lower income democrats squirm when they bring home 7-10% less of their income. Sometimes a hard lesson will prove a point.

Ok. Settle down a moment. Think. What point, pray tell, would that “hard lesson” prove?

Try this–are you familiar with the expression “cut off your nose to spite your face?” You make modestly-incomed people even LESS financially secure than they are, right now, and the economy will go into a tailspin. They are just beginning to spend money again, make their way in the world and buy houses, replace a crappy old car, etc. You want that to end, now? Why?

I am ok in principle with seeing my own taxes rise, and those on some lower-incomed folks rise as well, in a year or three. But it wouldn’t be to “teach them a lesson”, they’re already paying taxes.

(and by the way, I don’t know where you’re getting “7-10% less of their income”, that doesn’t sound like what’s been proposed for anyone.)

Recon 0311 2533

November 29th, 2012
3:12 pm

Madge from accounting,

If we go over the fiscal cliff the first target for the public’s wrath would indeed focus Congressional Republicans but as the pain reaches out and touches everyone including those receiving government financial assistance I can guarantee you that Obama and every member of congress regardless of political stripes will all be sitting very uncomfortably on the hot seat. It will be those that put up non-politically driven fix proposals be it Republicans or Democrats who’ll survive politically. If you don’t understand that then you don’t understand the fickle nature of the American electorate.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 29th, 2012
3:12 pm

Symbolic…like flags and flag pins and little crosses?

Must be a L7 thing.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
3:12 pm

” its almost as if you need the extreme right to balance the extreme left”

Extremes don’t balance out. What is needed to “balance” BOTH extremes is a bigger MIDDLE

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
3:13 pm

$5,185,000,000 PER DAY! (That’s 5 BILLION people)

oh noes that comes to fifteen dollars per citizen. The scale is unmanageable.

Katy bar the door. We R Grease. We must throw granny off the cliff to survive.

JohnnyReb

November 29th, 2012
3:13 pm

Kamie – the point of Whittle’s remarks is, Romeny lost because of a few million voters who happen to be in the right states to give Obama the electoral college win. The media is against us, pop-culture is against us. But the country remains almost equally divided as to political preference.

The Left seems to think there was some great awakening and that only they are giving the people what they really want. Just read Jay above for evidence of that. The truth is, the Left is forcing on about half the population what they don’t want.

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
3:14 pm

What is needed to “balance” BOTH extremes is a bigger MIDDLE

and then, you make the pie higher.

Jay

November 29th, 2012
3:15 pm

“Jay, we obviously disagree on Mrs Bachmann, and so do a majority of voters in Minnesota. That in itself is telling since she remains popular in very Liberal state.”

I’d have to disagree, JohnnyReb. Bachmann got booted off the island by GOP voters very early, right after the Iowa caucuses, where she got a whopping 5 percent of the vote.

She went home to her district — a very Republican district that Romney carried by 15 points — and she won by a margin of 1.2 percentage points. But hey, if you want and Mr. Whittle want to make her the symbol of a good Republican, you go right ahead and do so.

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
3:15 pm

Aquagirl – I was responding to your post below.

Your garbled mumble was an attempted response to that? On second thought you don’t need a neurologist, you should dial 911 and get yourself to an ER.

This lack of connection to the real world is what plagues Republicans. It’s like watching some poor homeless guy wrap his head in tinfoil, I’m sure his thought process makes perfect sense in his head too.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
3:15 pm

Cons have pockets! Hot Pockets. Be careful. You’ll burn your fingers.

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
3:15 pm

“we will go the way of greece and california.. nice.”

California recently got rid of their Republican Governor. Their new budget is now forecast to show a surplus. I agree with Union, we must keep Republicans out of power.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
3:16 pm

But the country remains almost equally divided as to political preference.

Contrary to what the vote totals show, there is no way to prove this country is almost equally divided. The choices on who to vote for was almost equally divided, but there is no way to extrapolate the political leanings of those who, for whatever reason, did not vote in this election. That’s just keeping it real.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
3:17 pm

Republicans should have nominated Bachmann instead of Romney. You cons keep that in mind now, ya hear.

RB from Gwinnett

November 29th, 2012
3:17 pm

“So it’s true. Obama will sacrifice the economy unless he gets a symbolic victory. ”

It’s like this… We’re in a car headed for a mile high cliff and the Democrats have totally and completely hung their hats on us sticking our hands out the window to slow us down. That’s about the equivalent of this tax hike they’re selling you tools and you’re too giddy at the prospect of screwing rich people to notice. It would be funny as hell if we weren’t stuck in the car with you.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
3:18 pm

Did the Republicans ever come up with a jobs plan.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
3:19 pm

I’m predicting a very good year for the IRS.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
3:20 pm

The media is against us, pop-culture is against us.

There’s your sign.

But the country remains almost equally divided as to political preference.

Really?

I’d say that 30 some odd percent of eligible voters didn’t vote. Hard to substantiate your contention when the apathy level is that high.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
3:20 pm

Recon — “If you don’t understand that then you don’t understand the fickle nature of the American electorate.”

If y’all can’t read polls, then why would you think you can make credible broad-brush assertions about the American electorate?

Y’all were massively wrong about what Americans wanted less than a month ago. Why should you be any less wrong about it now?

getalife

November 29th, 2012
3:20 pm

They found water on Mercury.

The wealthy can fly out to space while we clean up their mess.

Tax them and move on.

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
3:21 pm

“Cons have pockets! Hot Pockets. Be careful. You’ll burn your fingers.”

Never take a bite out of Hot Pocket straight out of the microwave. Hot Pocketing should replace water boarding.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
3:21 pm

Did the Republicans ever come up with a jobs plan.

Yeah, but it ended up in failure. They spent millions creating and funding jobs to get two people hired for a job, but the interviewers went with a different set of candidates. Those were probably the most jobs created by the GOP since 2010.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
3:22 pm

Never take a bite out of Hot Pocket straight out of the microwave. Hot Pocketing should replace water boarding.

Especially, if you’re handling the ham and cheese hot pocket. Those things burn worse than lava.

Libertarian & Proud

November 29th, 2012
3:23 pm

@Citizen “oh noes that comes to fifteen dollars per citizen. The scale is unmanageable. Katy bar the door. We R Grease. We must throw granny off the cliff to survive.”

If you don’t mind, please send me your annual share of Obama’s debt – $5,475. I have better things to do with my share than to send it to China. Oh, and if you have a family, like I do, please include their share with payment. Post your PayPal account below and I’ll send you an invoice.

Sorry,. but it’s your idiotic mentality to money that has this country in the position that it’s in.

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
3:23 pm

“That’s about the equivalent of this tax hike they’re selling you tools and you’re too giddy at the prospect of screwing rich people to notice.”

It’s amazing how the Republican party, home to the conservative Christian, worship the rich. It’s actually the anti-Jesus party now, Jesus reached out to the poor and the sick, and had not one nice thing to say about rich people. Republicans reach out to the rich and bash the poor and sick.

JohnnyReb

November 29th, 2012
3:24 pm

What’s most frustrating with you Moonbats is, you actually and sincerely believe Obama won because of idiology and the majority of people supporting his various positions.

That theory is ridiculous.

He won because his ground game was better. His political machine was better. That’s it, period.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
3:24 pm

J. Reb — “Kamie – the point of Whittle’s remarks is, Romeny lost because of a few million voters who happen to be in the right states to give Obama the electoral college win.”

Whittle’s a fool. Romney lost because Republicans can’t do simple math and because y’all thought faith-based mathematics would be as good an idea as faith-based science. I know it salves your conscience to think that you were close and ‘if only’ y’all had done things differently, but you didn’t. You gave it your best shot, and you lost.

Plus, you’re outnumbered. Angry old white guys don’t hold the power of government in this country any more.

You’d be well advised to revisit your game plan and outreach efforts than to play Monday-morning quarterback, because you’re not getting a do-over for four years.

Flying High

November 29th, 2012
3:24 pm

“The media is against us, pop-culture is against us. ”

Drudge, breitbart, newsmax, the right leaning pundits on the cable channels and radio, the right wing Op Ed writers in every major newspaper, etc, etc in the US are all against you?

Paranoid much?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
3:25 pm

Brosephus — “Especially, if you’re handling the ham and cheese hot pocket. Those things burn worse than lava.”

Testify! :)

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
3:25 pm

Bro,

You wouldn’t know anything about an egging of a Saint’s bus?

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
3:26 pm

“and had not one nice thing to say about rich people.”

And yet he was quite willing to eat with them, and talk with them. In fact, one of the arguments AGAINST his being the Savior was that he was, in modern parlance, “a party animal”

Steve

November 29th, 2012
3:26 pm

People forget that the Bush tax cuts were TEMPORARY and an experiment. They weren’t supposed to be permanent. Then, our economy crashed, the deficit keeps climbing. So, this temporary extension needs to END.
We aren’t punishing the rich. We are now asking that we stop subsidizing them at the levels we have been, to stop propping them up so they gain too much power, which they have.

Flying High

November 29th, 2012
3:26 pm

“What’s most frustrating with you Moonbats is, you actually and sincerely believe Obama won because of idiology and the majority of people supporting his various positions.”

That is almost as silly as the majority of righty bloggers claiming Romney would win because you heard it on Fox or the radio and read it on a right wing website……….

Oh well…..

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
3:27 pm

JohnnyReb,

Let them gloat and dance around for 4 more years.

We’ll see what a great legacy obama leaves behind…

Of course it will all be the fault of (non-existant) repubs.

Marietta Al

November 29th, 2012
3:27 pm

Thanks decibels for a genuine response. I basically did a really quick rough estimate of the 10% bracket going way of 15% and 25% all going to 28%. In terms of who cares about rich/poor….I am really referring to those so darn concerned with what others make. If you want a new car or more security shouldn’t you worry about yourself first and foremost? If one proposes taxing wealthy more, income is just not a good indicator in my opinion (maybe net worth, but income is hogwash). The salesman making >250k this year may be out of a job next year. The lawyer making 500k this year may have a mom in assisted living and a wife with cancer. Who knows really? Why do people assume more money means financial independence?

Recon 0311 2533

November 29th, 2012
3:27 pm

Bring on the cliff…if you’ve got a snap link and a rappel rope that can reach the deck get it to the ready.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 29th, 2012
3:28 pm

Well, looks like my weekend plans are ruint. Joe Bill can’t play golf ’cause he got a call to come in and help put up road signs all the way from the Alabama state line to the Dome. Seems Alabama fans are so stupid they’ll drive all the way to New York if somebody don’t point the way to the game.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
3:28 pm

J. Reb — “He won because his ground game was better. His political machine was better. That’s it, period.”

Yeah, sure. It was *ground game* what got those women and minorities out to vote.

Not Romney slagging on the 47%.

Not Akin and Mourdock slagging on women.

Not bullspit lies about “death panels.”

Ground game was what it was.

SURE. :roll:

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
3:29 pm

“What’s most frustrating with you Moonbats is, you actually and sincerely believe Obama won because of idiology and the majority of people supporting his various positions.”

What’s most frustrating with you conned is, you can’t grasp that Romney lost because of idiology and the majority of people REJECTING his various positions.”

Steve

November 29th, 2012
3:29 pm

Moonbat betty, you might want to be concerned. Seeing that things are improving, it looks like we’re going to be in good shape economically by 2016, which would easily lead to another Dem win. Add to the fact that we may have a 10-12 year economic boom just from the shale oil profits alone…it’s going to be very hard for the Republicans to make the Dems look bad right now. Especially when you look back at how bad things were post Republican policies of the last decade.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
3:30 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
3:30 pm

What’s most frustrating with you Moonbats is, you actually and sincerely believe Obama won because of idiology and the majority of people supporting his various positions.

Geez….

Obama won, because the best that you guys could do was nominate Romney.

If you had nominated Huntsman, Obama would be on his way out the door.

You wannna know why you guys didn’t nominate Huntsman?

Because y’all aren’t doing those “right things” that you referenced earlier.

When y’all start doing those “right things” is when y’all are able to nominate a Huntsman, and not before.

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
3:30 pm

He won because his ground game was better. His political machine was better. That’s it, period

I’ll be charitable here…Perhaps your neurological issues prevent you from realizing the GOP’s flaming idiocy and jerkwad behavior might have something to do with their loss.

Unfortunately the Goopers in charge seem to have the same problem. Is bathtub gin fashionable with these people?

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
3:31 pm

He won because his ground game was better. His political machine was better. That’s it, period.

Guess I’m not a moonbat, because I don’t believe either of those two memes. I, meaning me and me only, think Obama won because he was the lesser of the two evils. This election was nothing but the Bush-Kerry election all over again. More people are simply comfortable with going with the known evil vs the unknown version.

————————-

betty

Nothing other than what was said on the news. It happened on the evening shift, but I do have my ears in the pipeline listening for details.

:)

Steve

November 29th, 2012
3:31 pm

The lawyer making 500K could put BOTH parents into assisted living and not miss a beat. Are you high?? 500k?? One can make 100K and do really well.

Flying High

November 29th, 2012
3:31 pm

“He won because his ground game was better. His political machine was better. That’s it, period.”

And the fact that Romney was a weak a$$ candidate who couldn’t beat a President that most right leaning pundits claimed would be slaughtered by any Republican candidate, but let’s mosey and whistle on pass the graveyard in regards to that fact.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
3:31 pm

M. Al — “I am really referring to those so darn concerned with what others make.”

Who would that be, exactly?

“The salesman making >250k this year may be out of a job next year.”

And the Kroger shelf stocker making $10 an hour might be out of a job next week. What about him?

“The lawyer making 500k this year may have a mom in assisted living and a wife with cancer.”

Guess what? I make considerably less than $500K and up until a year or two ago, I had BOTH those problems. So eff you.

“Who knows really? Why do people assume more money means financial independence?”

Why do people assume that if they can’t make it at $500K, that someone else is a leech if they can’t make it on $25K?

Logical Dude

November 29th, 2012
3:32 pm

Solution for Republicans (if they can muster it) is to have more moderate positions on just a few items.

1) Decry the part of the party that wants to rule by the church. Say that “Yes, government should stay out of the bedroom, so we agree that gay marriage is acceptable”, “abortion should be between her and her doctor only”, “some people feel that a fetus is not a person, so we will not legislate this based on a few people’s religion.”
2) Immigration: Recognize that a small percentage of racists have taken over a large part of the argument. Work toward a moderate stance that says “yes, minors who came over have done no wrong and should have a simple path to citizenship (read: DREAM Act).” “We helped create the environment for illegals to come in, so provide a path for them as well, and documenting them will get them to pay their fair share of taxes instead of hiding the income from the government.”
3) Recognize that poor people are people too. The perception is that Republicans are defending the robber barons. (Yes, I know they are NOT.) But since the perception is there, they need to show compassion, not just talk compassion. Which means having funding for government services that help people who are in unfortunate situations.

Because, if Republicans can act like good Americans, then more people would, you know, join them and vote.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
3:33 pm

FOUR MORE YEARS!

Then we’re nominating Michelle Obama for EIGHT MORE YEARS! (You cons remember to pit Michelle Bachmann against her now, ya hear.)

That’s the winning ticket.

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 29th, 2012
3:34 pm

Redneck Convert (R–and proud of it)

November 29th, 2012
3:28 pm

I thought y’all called golf Cow Pasture Pool?

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
3:35 pm

Mr. Darwin, why did humans lose their body hair so that they have to wear clothes now? Shouldn’t we have retained the traits that would have best enabled us to survive? (Never have been able to figure out how that fits with the theory.)

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 29th, 2012
3:37 pm

I see H.W. Bush is in the hospital…

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20544854

Steve

November 29th, 2012
3:38 pm

Logical Dude, I hate to break it to you, but it is very apparent that the Republicans are working towards a starve the government, prop up the rich, robber baronesque reality. You can see that when they refuse to raise taxes on the very wealthy by FOUR PERCENT yet they want to squelch things that the middle class have paid into all their lives (Medicare, Social Security). Because we all know it’s so much better to depend on the stock market for your retirement, and private health insurance for when we are retired.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
3:39 pm

N. Yobinnes — “Mr. Darwin, why did humans lose their body hair so that they have to wear clothes now?”

I’d say clothes are more a cultural norm than a physical necessity. If you want to walk around in Olympic Park nekikid for most of the year, you’re going to get busted for public nudity long before you ever catch cold. :)

“Shouldn’t we have retained the traits that would have best enabled us to survive? (Never have been able to figure out how that fits with the theory.)”

We’ve been spending more and more time indoors for the last couple-three millennia. P’raps that’s why we’re slowly losing body hair compared to, say, primates.

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
3:39 pm

Never take a bite out of Hot Pocket straight out of the microwave. Hot Pocketing should replace water boarding.

Snot Rockets are the way to go.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
3:40 pm

You know, I thought the democrats were supposed to be so smart. Why do they think 39.6% less 20% is 4%?

Dennis

November 29th, 2012
3:42 pm

The over 40 crowd had this false prophet figured out. Now, if we could only get the young skulls full of mush to vote with their brains instead of their emotions and body parts, there might be hope. The GOP certainly will not promise free contraceptives and free abortions. Free = taxpayer funded You wanna play, you gotta pay. It’s as simple as that….

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
3:42 pm

Corbin @ 3.37…awsh-t. That sucks.

He’s 88, might not have him much longer, but I’d like him to survive to see his wing of the party (or at least what I consider to be that more rational, reasonable, if now-closeted side) able to re-assert itself.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
3:43 pm

“Mr. Darwin, why did humans lose their body hair so that they have to wear clothes now”

Try checking into the alternate theory of evolution for mankind that has pretty interesting evidence that we are sort of “half-way” altered for life in the sea. Some interesting stuff in that theory.

AmericaShrugged

November 29th, 2012
3:44 pm

JohnnyReb – Don’t play Aqua’s game. I don’t need my psych degree to see most of her ranting posts are driven by sexual frustration and p*nis envy!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
3:45 pm

Now, if we could only get the young skulls full of mush to vote with their brains instead of their emotions and body parts

Are you trying to say that the human brain is somehow NOT a body part?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
3:45 pm

SfD — “He’s 88, might not have him much longer, but I’d like him to survive to see his wing of the party (or at least what I consider to be that more rational, reasonable, if now-closeted side) able to re-assert itself.”

I was proud to vote for Bush the Elder back in the day (was still wearing Army green in those days) and I wish him a speedy recovery.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
3:46 pm

Doggone – somebody stole my gills!

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
3:46 pm

“I’d say clothes are more a cultural norm than a physical necessity. If you want to walk around in Olympic Park nekikid for most of the year, you’re going to get busted for public nudity long before you ever catch cold”

Well, that doesn’t explain our more primitive ancestors who had no Olympic Park. And yes, clothing of SOME sort is a necessity in all but a very small area of the world. Mankind can only suvive a very narrow temperature range without assistance from clothing.

Class of '98

November 29th, 2012
3:47 pm

Jay, if you posted a picture of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, it would be nothing but white men as well. That pretty much explains why liberals despise the Constitution so much.

If the election of 2012 taught us anything, it’s that non-whites and females are not only expected to hate white males, but are encouraged to do so. Especially by liberal white males like Jay Bookman.

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 29th, 2012
3:47 pm

Stands,
I agree. I always respected his WWII service. He flew Avengers, if you didn’t know that. Got shot down around Iwo Jima, I think. They have a cool video of him being pulled out of the water by a Sub. Us Navy to the rescue…

In the middle

November 29th, 2012
3:47 pm

It is a fact that the GOP is in trouble. With an increasing number of voters that need the government to survive outpacing the numbers of voters that survive in their own, the days of the right are numbered. It is all but certain that the self reliant are going extinct. I say give up now and become a lifelong victim. Blame everybody else for your lot in life. Become a democrat.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
3:48 pm

“Doggone – somebody stole my gills!”

How many sea based mammals have gills?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
3:48 pm

A. Shrugged — “Don’t play Aqua’s game. I don’t need my psych degree to see most of her ranting posts are driven by sexual frustration and p*nis envy!”

My understanding is that Aquagirl does just fine. She’s simply a liberal who *fights back,* same as I do.

I know that doesn’t make sense to conservatives like yourself, but there it is.

Besides, if you go down that road, someone’s going to insult someone else’s dinky, red cards will be thrown and everything will go all to hell. And nobody wants that in here. :)

Class of '98

November 29th, 2012
3:48 pm

And you still look like Katherine Sebelius.

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
3:49 pm

most of her ranting posts are driven by sexual frustration and p*nis envy!

The only time I had pen!s envy is when I was out in the woods on field exercises during winter.

Then in Summer I had shaved head envy, you pick up some interesting hitchhikers after a few days. Ew.

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 29th, 2012
3:50 pm

America Shrugged,

you have no class at all.

Flying High

November 29th, 2012
3:50 pm

“If the election of 2012 taught us anything, it’s that non-whites and females are not only expected to hate white males, but are encouraged to do so.”

Your words and vivid imagination or you can substantiate that with more than rhetoric and lies?

Thought so.

Good day

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
3:50 pm

Doggone – Yes, but sea based mammals are at a distinct disadvantage in the water as opposed to animals with gills. Sometimes things block your ability to get to the surface to breathe.

Flying High

November 29th, 2012
3:51 pm

“Don’t play Aqua’s game. I don’t need my psych degree to see most of her ranting posts are driven by sexual frustration and p*nis envy!”

You must have looked evaluated yourself and are now projecting onto others.

:-)

AmericaShrugged

November 29th, 2012
3:52 pm

Aqua – Good retort, I’m still lol!!!

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

November 29th, 2012
3:52 pm

The GOP / TEA turds RIP…LOL

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
3:52 pm

sea based mammals are at a distinct disadvantage in the water as opposed to animals with gills

Sucks to be y’all.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
3:54 pm

Aquagirl – Does that mean you are a mermaid?

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
3:54 pm

“Yes, but sea based mammals are at a distinct disadvantage in the water as opposed to animals with gills. Sometimes things block your ability to get to the surface to breathe”

Yet they are successful as a species. And maybe you missed the HALF-WAY part of my reply.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
3:54 pm

Orcas are disadvantaged?

:shock:

Union

November 29th, 2012
3:54 pm

DannyX
November 29th, 2012
3:15 pm

“California recently got rid of their Republican Governor. Their new budget is now forecast to show a surplus. I agree with Union, we must keep Republicans out of power.”

umm.. surplus.. ok… well.. we know how you voted and why…

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
3:54 pm

If the election of 2012 taught us anything, it’s that non-whites and females are not only expected to hate white males, but are encouraged to do so

geez, someone call a wahhhmbulance.

Marietta Al

November 29th, 2012
3:55 pm

Steve, when did personal responsibility become such a part of the Democrat ideology? Sure it makes sense the 250k guy should get by, but who’s to judge his life’s mistakes any more than the dolt who jacked around in high school and college years and now wants govt handouts?

Joe, simmer down with the “eff” bombs…sorry for your issues. My point is if you have $0 disposable income if you’re making 25k or 250k… its still $0.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
3:55 pm

Aquagirl — “The only time I had pen!s envy is when I was out in the woods on field exercises during winter. ”

Fun Fact: If you’re hunting/hiking/etc. out in the woods and you have a male dog with you, he’ll whiz anywhere you do. Fencepost? Dog will go there too. Bush? So will the dog.

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
3:56 pm

“umm.. surplus.. ok… well.. we know how you voted and why…”

Sorry Union, I didn’t mean to make you stutter.

stands for decibels

November 29th, 2012
3:57 pm

They have a cool video of him being pulled out of the water by a Sub.

yep, seen it, maybe others haven’t, so…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_ovbnRg4RE

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
3:57 pm

Kamchak – No, Orcas are good, but they still have to eventually surface to breathe. I always figured an Orca could kick a great white shark’s #$$, but if two or three of them got the orca, they could hold it underwater until it drowned.

Ronald Reagan

November 29th, 2012
3:57 pm

Nice elephant!

Union

November 29th, 2012
3:58 pm

DannyX
November 29th, 2012
3:56 pm

Sorry Union, I didn’t mean to make you stutter.

caused by complete ignorance..

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
3:59 pm

Marietta Al — “Joe, simmer down with the “eff” bombs…”

Shove off with your presumption that only the wealthy can get stuck with financial + family + health issues.

“sorry for your issues.”

You’re the one that postulated how damn awful it would be for a lawyer making $500K to have those problems. Since you seem to know so much about it, how about you school me on how someone making $125K/annum ought to handle them?

“My point is if you have $0 disposable income if you’re making 25k or 250k… its still $0.”

And my point is that problems of the sort you brought up will hit someone making $25K one HELL of a lot harder than someone making $500K. And cancer doesn’t know or care how much you make.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
3:59 pm

I always figured an Orca could kick a great white shark’s #$$, but if two or three of them got the orca, they could hold it underwater until it drowned.

(shrug) Anything with gills has to keep moving, or it too will drown.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
3:59 pm

“I always figured an Orca could kick a great white shark’s #$$, but if two or three of them got the orca, they could hold it underwater until it drowned.”

You need to watch the video of the Orca that held a Great White Shark upside down until it died.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
3:59 pm

The only time I had pen!s envy is when I was out in the woods on field exercises during winter.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Couldn’t write your name in the snow, huh? ;)

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
4:00 pm

“I always figured an Orca could kick a great white shark’s #$$, but if two or three of them got the orca, they could hold it underwater until it drowned.”

Oh, and BTW…sharks can’t hold still that long. They have to move pretty often to keep water flowing over their gills. They sharks would “drown” long before the Orca would. Orca can hold their breath for a LOT longer than you may realize.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
4:00 pm

Some sharks, such as great whites do have to keep swimming, but not all sharks.

AmericaShrugged

November 29th, 2012
4:01 pm

The fundamental economic problem now is high unemployment. As we moved from manufacturing to a service economy labor has become the largest expense on the income statement for health care, insurance, banking, tech, and telecommunications. When times got tough these companies learned how to cut labor without significantly reducing productivity.
So what we need is a jobs bill with tax incentives: work force goes down, company pays more federal tax, work force goes up, company pays less tax. GDP and tax revenues increase while expenses from unemployment comp and Medicaid go down.
Japan hit debt of 200% GDP but still has good per capita income and only recently hit 4% unemployment!

curious

November 29th, 2012
4:02 pm

All this time I thought the Republicans were smart, but seeing them spend so many millions on a lost cause makes me believe they’re the party of

1- lottery players
2- Pro wrestling believers
3- Bernie madoff investors
4- Enron stock holders
5- Bill frist telephonic medical exams

As PT Barnum said; “There’s a sucker born every minute”.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
4:03 pm

“Some sharks, such as great whites do have to keep swimming, but not all sharks.”

And there’s something else you haven’t considered: sharks jaws and teeth are not designed to “hold” things for a long period of time.

saywhat?

November 29th, 2012
4:05 pm

“No, Orcas are good, but they still have to eventually surface to breathe. I always figured an Orca could kick a great white shark’s #$$, but if two or three of them got the orca, they could hold it underwater until it drowned.”
_____________________________________________________
If the sharks had frickin’ laser beams mounted on their heads it would only take one Great White to take out a whole pod of Orcas.

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
4:05 pm

The boy in the picture is most likely a DAWG fan.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
4:05 pm

Doggone – Not sure if we’re talking about the same video, but I have seen a video where an orca killed a great white shark (albeit only a 10 footer), and gave the shark’s liver to its baby. Sorry, I can’t resist, I wonder if it also had a bottle of chianti and fava beans.

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
4:06 pm

Does that mean you are a mermaid?

Goodness no, I’m not THAT mean to you guys. Besides, those b!tches are lazy and high-maintenance.

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
4:07 pm

“caused by complete ignorance..”

Union, why don’t you tell me where your ignorance is? The fact that you didn’t know California has been led by mostly Republican governors the past 40 years? Or the fact that you didn’t know California is now projecting a budget surplus because a Democrat is now leading the way? Both of those? I’d like to help you.

Libertarian and Proud

November 29th, 2012
4:07 pm

DannyX – From the Sacramento Bee 15 Nov 2012 — “The state’s fiscal analyst said Wednesday that California’s long-tattered budget is on the verge of producing surpluses, but he cautioned that Gov. Jerry Brown and lawmakers must first avoid a spending spree.” Democrats spending other people’s money – why are we not surprised?

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
4:08 pm

An elephant could kick a donkey’s ass.

But a DAWG could kick both of their asses with one leg tied behind his head. j/k.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
4:09 pm

…labor has become the largest expense on the income statement…

There’s your sign.

So what we need is a jobs bill with tax incentives: work force goes down, company pays more federal tax, work force goes up, company pays less tax. GDP and tax revenues increase while expenses from unemployment comp and Medicaid go down.

As I recall, Reagan used the same justification in the 80s to retool factories and retrain the workers. Instead, corporate America used the windfall to float junk-bonds and using the proceeds did the leveraged buyout thingie, sold off the assets of the rust belt and eliminated thousands of career types offering “jobs” instead.

So, eff your “jobs” bill!

josef

November 29th, 2012
4:11 pm

Talking to younger voters, many who would subscribe to the GOP economic or foreign policy platforms, draw the line with the GOP’s social agenda. They simply cannot or will not subscribe to what they feel are archaic stances. It costs the party at the ballot

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
4:11 pm

“Not sure if we’re talking about the same video, but I have seen a video where an orca killed a great white shark (albeit only a 10 footer), and gave the shark’s liver to its baby”

No, definitely not the same one. The one I’ve seen is an Orca killing and eating a full grown great white. There was a National Geographic show about it called “The Whale that ate Jaws”

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
4:13 pm

Haven’t seen that one. Sounds interesting though.

Ol' Timer

November 29th, 2012
4:14 pm

To paraphrase ol’ Josh Billings, “It’s not that the Republicans don’t know but that so much of what they know for sure just ain’t so;”

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

November 29th, 2012
4:14 pm

“If so when Romney and Ryan walk into the White House, they should start playing “Didn’t we almost have it all” by Whitney Houston.”

I prefer this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKnlOgEIpBg

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
4:14 pm

“Haven’t seen that one. Sounds interesting though.”

BTW…it might have been the same whale that you saw, it just wasn’t the incident I had in mind. Apparently the whale in the Nat Geo show was in the habit of hunting sharks

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
4:15 pm

” Democrats spending other people’s money – why are we not surprised?”

Lol libertarian! I see you are trying to erase the memory of Arnold Schwarzenegger from the equation. Much like George W Bush memory syndrome.

Your point? Republicans caused the deficit, a Democrat is fixing it, but that doesn’t fit your script so you add the “spending spree” scare.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
4:16 pm

We’re tallkin’ about sharkin’, Mr. Hooper. Workin’ for a living.

Aquagirl

November 29th, 2012
4:16 pm

If the sharks had frickin’ laser beams mounted on their heads it would only take one Great White to take out a whole pod of Orcas

Sharks don’t need no stinkin’ laser beams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBizgLZX7W0

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
4:18 pm

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
4:20 pm

I think that elephant might be the reincarnation of Michael Jackson. It’s got that spotty pigment thing going on.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
4:20 pm

That’s some bad hat, Harry.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
4:21 pm

Hangs around young boys too.

Erwin's cat

November 29th, 2012
4:22 pm

One can make 100K and do really well.

what’s your definition of “really well”?

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
4:24 pm

josef @ 4:11

Agreed, yet in their efforts to appease a well financed part of the base, they continue to hedge their bets.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
4:25 pm

what’s your definition of “really well”?

Opposable thumbs and not living in a box immediately leaps to mind.

josef

November 29th, 2012
4:25 pm

There’s a lot of folks in today and seems to be a good mood day…full moon, I guess…

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
4:26 pm

It beats the constant bickering.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
4:28 pm

josef

November 29th, 2012
4:28 pm

BOTH
They’ll be pulled kicking and screaming into the 21st Century…much like their Democrat counterparts and the 20th…

GT

November 29th, 2012
4:30 pm

The Republican Party pushes the envelop to see how much they can get a way with. It is like letting a brunch of fake wrestlers into the Royal wedding. They know they don’t fit, they know they are not part of this but they want to stay, entertain themselves eating food rudely and bullying everybody in sight until someone has the courage to ask them to leave.

I think about the man from the Tea Party, somewhere in the mid west, who escorted the president around a campaign stop interrupting every sentence Obama made and demanding why the president had called him a terrorist, as he demonstrated being a terrorist. Or the US Congressman from South Carolina, who shouted out, in a State of the Union speech, liar, interrupting our president. The contempt these people have for our country to lack the grace of respect any representative of this country deserves. And you wonder why the steam is coming out of this movement; Americans don’t feel moved by anti-American movements.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
4:32 pm

josef

Exactly. Outside of the social issues, there are some good things in the Republican message. Too bad it is in many cases outweighed by the social issues.

It will continue to sale in certain states and districts, but without change it will eventually become an albatross on the national level.

Erwin's cat

November 29th, 2012
4:33 pm

Kam @4:25

sure but other than that…

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
4:33 pm

I agree with you GT. Even if you don’t agree with the candidate, you should respect the office.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
4:35 pm

josef @ 4:11

It’s just not the “younger” voters. Some of us “byproducts of the 70’s” kids don’t care for that crap either.

Marietta Al

November 29th, 2012
4:35 pm

LOL Joe Mama you really like pity don’t you? My point is that if you make money you are NOT immune to life’s curveballs, contrary to how you read it and try to point out. Your woe is me posting tries to say that I was saying that life is harder for “rich” guy to deal with crap than poor guy? Well you’re dead wrong! Good spin on it though. Get over yourself man.

josef

November 29th, 2012
4:36 pm

GT

“…lack the grace of respect any representative of this country deserves…”

Not that I approve of the lack of common manners, but why in the name of G-d, is “ANY representative of the country “deserving of any more respect than is shown on the highway, in the check out line, or any other place the populace interacts?

Libertarian and Proud

November 29th, 2012
4:37 pm

@DannyX – “…that doesn’t fit your script so you add the “spending spree” scare.”

I didn’t add a single word. The quote is from the Sacramento Bee 15 Nov 2012. If you have a problem with your beloved party going on a “spending spree”, address it with them. I’m just a citizen. I have no spending authority and as I’m not a member of the media I can not participate in scare tactics. Sounds as if you’re a little afraid of your God-sent Jerry Brown blowing his “surplus”, ala-Obama style.

josef

November 29th, 2012
4:38 pm

BROSEPHUS

“It’s just not the “younger” voters. Some of us “byproducts of the 70’s” kids don’t care for that crap either.”

Like I said, the “younger” voters! :-)

Regnad Kcin

November 29th, 2012
4:40 pm

“Jay, if you posted a picture of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, it would be nothing but white men as well. That pretty much explains why liberals despise the Constitution so much.”

That pretty much explains why you’re an idiot… *sigh*

AU Liberal in ATL

November 29th, 2012
4:41 pm

The writing is on the wall. They can see it, they can read it, but they still don’t get it. They’re painting the house and landscaping the front yard, but walk inside and there’s that old shag carpet on the floor, wood paneling on the wall and a big old console TV in the living room. It may look new and different on the outside, but on the inside nothing has changed. They’re a dying breed. Good riddance.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
4:41 pm

Do SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! have daunting numbers, also?

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
4:41 pm

josef

Who you calling young?? I’m old enough to be your youngest brother. :)

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
4:44 pm

GT – That sentiment also goes the other way though. I still envision Joseph Lowery’s smug remarks to President Bush. Completely uncalled for. Unfortunately however, that seems to be funny to some folks.

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
4:45 pm

“I didn’t add a single word.”

Lib and Proud, you did post it didn’t you???? You did take the time to cut and paste it didn’t you??? You where trying to make a point weren’t you???

My bet is you just couldn’t believe California was forecasting a budget surplus so you ran to Google to prove me wrong. Ha ha, I was right!

josef

November 29th, 2012
4:46 pm

K’CHAK

:-)

BROSEPHUS

But, I’m old enough to be yore daddy…at least given where we hail from! :-)

Oscar

November 29th, 2012
4:46 pm

Liberals don’t despise the Constitution.
To say they do is to reveal how ignorant you are.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
4:49 pm

Marietta Al — “LOL Joe Mama you really like pity don’t you?”

I don’t need your or anyone else’s pity, and if you knew me at all, you’d recognize what a ridiculous statement you just made.

“My point is that if you make money you are NOT immune to life’s curveballs, contrary to how you read it and try to point out.”

And my point is that if you *don’t* make money, those curveballs hit a lot harder than they do if you *do* happen to have money. Stop being so obtuse, Al. :roll:

“Your woe is me posting”

I made no such posting, your dramatically incorrect misreading notwithstanding.

“tries to say that I was saying that life is harder for “rich” guy to deal with crap than poor guy?”

Nope. I neither said nor implied any such thing. I’ve told you several times now what I’m trying to get across to you, and for some reason, you keep trying to insist that I’m saying something completely different. :roll:

“Well you’re dead wrong!”

No, I’m not. You’re simply incorrect in your reading of what I posted.

“Good spin on it though.”

The only spin here is your own, Al. Clean the poop out of your ears and listen more closely.

“Get over yourself man.”

Grow up and listen to what others are saying instead of trying to speak for them, Al. :roll:

Oscar

November 29th, 2012
4:49 pm

There’s a lot of folks in today and seems to be a good mood day…full moon, I guess
____

Not all of us.

And last night they were blaming the bickering on the full moon.

Just what is a full moon good for, any way. Putting women into labor? My guess is impregnation goes up when it’s a full moon also. Especially in October.

josef

November 29th, 2012
4:51 pm

Madge From Accounting

November 29th, 2012
4:51 pm

Al: Why do people care so much about others wealth?! I just don’t get it. Rich this poor that, who gives a @#$@#$? Who determines that someone is wealthy and has so much disposable income that they can afford more of their money to go to the government?

Al, do you know what those rich playboy Kennedy’s family motto is?

To whom much is given, much is expected

This is the family who’s whole life follows this creed. They didn’t get the creed from the old robber (the patriach of the family), but from their mother, the family matriarch. A strong woman with strong ideals and a strong sense of right and wrong.

The Kennedy’s individually and together did these things for America:

*Sponsored the country’s first major job training program
*Started Special Olympics
*During his campaign, Kennedy had visited the rural poverty areas of Appalachia. ( A famous photo contrasts a handsome, well-polished Kennedy standing in front of a destitute Appalachian family on its front porch)18 Once elected, Kennedy created the Area Redevelopment Agency in 1961.19 This agency provided support in the form of loans, subsidies, and public works to local businesses in poverty areas such as Appalachia.
*Started ommunity Mental Health Centers Act was passed in 1963.20 This act provided federal funds to public or private nonprofit organizations for construction, and later staffing, of community mental health centers providing outpatient and prevention services.
*Started the Juvenile Delinquency and Youth Offenses Control Act
*The Kennedy Administration passed tax credits for business investment and increased business depreciation allowances.22 These policy changes, along with an income tax cut passed in 1964, contributed to the continued economic growth of the 1960s.

josef

November 29th, 2012
4:53 pm

OSCAR

Funny you should say that…most of Mom’s and Dad’s kids have birthdays in the late spring and early summer…”nine months after the first cold snap!”

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
4:53 pm

Perhaps somebody should enlighten 98 as to what the real reason is! (Introspection apparently being a non-Republican thing!)

Libertarian and Proud

November 29th, 2012
4:54 pm

@DannyX – As a FORMER resident of California, I often read the Bee to see what’s happening in the old stomping grounds. Thank God I moved out of that State (during the hell-hole Gray Davis years – a Democrat by the way). As to your assumed intelligence, all I can do is laugh, bid you a great day, and hope someday you pull your head out of your own ass and see the blue sky I see every morning. “Forward!” (oh, PS – since 1960, CA has had 9 Governors – 5 R & 4 D. Both sides are to blame for the problems, not just Arnold).

RB from Gwinnett

November 29th, 2012
4:55 pm

DannyX, “It’s amazing how the Republican party, home to the conservative Christian, worship the rich. It’s actually the anti-Jesus party now, Jesus reached out to the poor and the sick, and had not one nice thing to say about rich people. Republicans reach out to the rich and bash the poor and sick.”

Funny, I don’t ever remember Jesus telling anybody to steal from others, give it to the poor, and call it charity. Do you have a reference?

The problem you continually have is you refuse to separate “needy” from “poor”. There is a huge difference and nobody has a problem helping the “needy”. Most of our “poor” people are poor because of their own choices and we’re tired of being taken advantage of by them and ripped off by people like you to feed them when you personally would never give them a dime of your own money. Start the “Democrats for the Poor” charity and see how many donations you get. Not many I would bet.

And which party was it that couldn’t even get half it’s convention goers to vote to put an allegiance to God back in their party platform and still to this day refuses to admit who took it out or why?

Stealing is a crime, DannyX, whether you do it or you enable somebody else to do it (the IRS). Does it make you feel better knowing you’re abetting that theft to make you feel like YOU did something for the “poor”?

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

November 29th, 2012
4:55 pm

One can make 100K and do really well.

what’s your definition of “really well”?

On that kind of money one can live quite comfortably. Especially in the South.

Id say with that you could have a really nice sized house nice cars.

Send kids to private school and have some left over to put away.

GT

November 29th, 2012
4:56 pm

josef the same reason I give your mother respect or any older lady I have never metor help a small child, it is human decency. Gone with the wind are the days of respect and honor. Most of the right’s complaints have nothing to do with honor; they are absorbed in selfishness and greed. You should not serve in the halls of Congress if you have no more control of your emotions than a 10 year old child. You should not be allowed a leadership position if your one trick is disrespect. It took awhile for the public to understand clowns are not what are needed in this area. You got to love America; it can’t be fooled by fools.

Madge From Accounting

November 29th, 2012
4:57 pm

Not true. Gray Davis wanted to keep the extra money in the state’s coffers, the public wanted it back into their own hands. They started a massive drive to get Gray out and put someone in who’d do what they wanted. Hence Arnold. Arnold came in, did what the people wanted, and California damn near went bankrupt.

You’re supposed to save for a rainy day — not blow it all and hope for perpetual sunshine…………..

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

November 29th, 2012
4:57 pm

It’s amazing how the Republican party, home to the conservative Christian, worship the rich. It’s actually the anti-Jesus party now, Jesus reached out to the poor and the sick, and had not one nice thing to say about rich people. Republicans reach out to the rich and bash the poor and sick.

Right on the money.

Im often reminded of the story of the widow in the temple.

41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much. 42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. 43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: 44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.

Most Christians talk the talk.

But they dont walk the walk.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
4:59 pm

They started a massive drive to get Gray out and put someone in who’d do what they wanted.

“They” being Darrell “Car Thief” Issa.

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
4:59 pm

Stealing is indeed a crime.

While making up childish lies about stealing is merely pathetic…

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:00 pm

RB

Just being EOI, but who was the one being addressed with this from the Christ?

“And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.”
–Luke 23:43,

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

November 29th, 2012
5:00 pm

Most of our “poor” people are poor because of their own choices

HELL NO THEY ARE NOT.

NOBODY AND I MEAN NO ONE CHOOSES TO BE POOR YOU POMPOUS ASS.

THEY JUST DIDN’T HAVE EVERYTHING HANDED TO THEM LIKE THE LILY WHITE COUNTRY CLUB CROWD WHO NEVER WORKED AN HONEST DAY IN THEIR LIFE.

YET THEY WILL GLADLY TELL YOU HOW THEY WORK SOOO HARD AND POOR PEOPLE ARE LAZY

WHEN IN FACT THE EXACT OPPOSITE IS TRUE.

RB from Gwinnett

November 29th, 2012
5:03 pm

“The Kennedy’s individually and together did these things for America:”

Funny, they don’t seem to have ever helped enough “poor” people to have required a single one of their future generations to get a job…

How many “poor” people do you suppose could live a comfortable life at the Kennedy compound?

GT

November 29th, 2012
5:03 pm

RB from Gwinnett you are dead on, our church has been hijacked by an evil crowd that conduct the real church as a market place. People who want to control the world through the figure of Jesus. Not for the sake of God or Christ but for their own earthly accounting.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
5:04 pm

RB — “Funny, I don’t ever remember Jesus telling anybody to steal from others, give it to the poor, and call it charity. Do you have a reference?”

If the church asks for 10% so they can help the needy, is that charity or theft?

And if you think the gubmint is stealing from you, then why do you let it go on? I think you should refuse to pay taxes and then stick to your guns, RB. :D

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:05 pm

DOGGONE

From earlier in the thread…is this the one you were talking about? Fascinating book this one…

http://www.amazon.com/Descent-Woman-Classic-Study-Evolution/dp/0285627007

Madge From Accounting

November 29th, 2012
5:05 pm

Funny, they don’t seem to have ever helped enough “poor” people to have required a single one of their future generations to get a job… How many “poor” people do you suppose could live a comfortable life at the Kennedy compound?

RB — I’m sorry. I had no idea my words fell upon the eyes of a fool. I will try to post “up” so that more upwardly thoughtful people can understand me and the short sighted can just scroll past.

Again, my apologies.

Madge From Accounting

November 29th, 2012
5:08 pm

Maria Shriver — Journalist

Teddy Kennedy — Senator

Enid Shriver — Founder and sponsor and First chairperson of Special Olympics

etc., etc., etc…………..

Madge From Accounting

November 29th, 2012
5:09 pm

People who want to control the world through the figure of Jesus. Not for the sake of God or Christ but for their own earthly accounting.

They are truly the ones that carry the “Mark of the Beast”.

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:09 pm

GT

I see what you are saying,,,it is a concept of honor and dignity. And I agree. However, my point, not so very well stated, I admit, was that no one human being is any more deserving than any other…to me, and I’m not implying that you were saying this, is that for some unknown reason we seem to think that those in public office or an assumed position of authority are any more deserving than the lowest amongst us…

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
5:10 pm

“Stealing is a crime, DannyX, whether you do it or you enable somebody else to do it (the IRS). Does it make you feel better knowing you’re abetting that theft to make you feel like YOU did something for the “poor”?”

WOW! Talk about deflection! RB you are now crowned the champion of deflection! You haven’t done a thing to make your case. Jesus’ whole life was tending to the poor and sick. He was not a fan of the rich at all. In fact you cannot find any quotes from him that praise the rich that you worship. You can find many quotes where he bashed the rich you worship.

Stop the deflection RB and post something good Jesus said about the rich. I’ll be waiting.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
5:10 pm

I read somewhere that there is no mention of God in the GOP platform. Is that true! If so, then perhaps I have been too harsh in my calling them all a bunch of hypocrites. It could be that simply most of them are.

RB from Gwinnett

November 29th, 2012
5:13 pm

“NOBODY AND I MEAN NO ONE CHOOSES TO BE POOR YOU POMPOUS ASS.”

Would it be of any use to explain to this individual the difference between choosing to be poor and being poor because of the choices one has made? I didn’t think so either…

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
5:14 pm

If the church asks for 10% so they can help the needy, is that charity or theft?

As long as they’re just asking. At least that’s the impression I get after looking at Mitt’s one tax return that he shared.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
5:15 pm

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

November 29th, 2012
5:15 pm

Fresh from News Max…

Breaking from Newsmax.com

Howard Dean: Let’s Go Over the Fiscal Cliff

Going over the fiscal cliff may not be such a bad thing after all, former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean claimed on Thursday.

He said ending the Bush-era tax breaks at the same time that $1.1 trillion is cut from the budget could be for the best in the long-term.

“We will get a lot more deficit reduction if we do the fiscal cliff,” the former Vermont governor said on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. “I actually think the markets will reward the fiscal cliff over a period.

“There will be some panic and some moaning and groaning, but the fiscal cliff is not a real cliff, it’s a slope, and you are going to get the biggest bang for the buck in terms of deficit reduction.”

Dean, who ran for the White House in 2004, said the economy will be able to withstand the effects of the cliff. “Yes, we will go into two quarters of recession,” he said.

“But we are in deep trouble here, somebody’s going to have to pay the bill and it is going to have to be all of us, and you get a much better tax bang if you go back to Bill Clinton’s tax rates.”

Despite his views, Dean said he believed the two parties in Washington will reach a deal to avoid the cliff.

“But the deal has to be the right deal,” he said. “And I still believe that it’s safer, if you’re on the progressive end of the political spectrum, to go over the fiscal cliff than it is to agree to some of the things they’re talking about.”

Dean said one of the advantages of going over the cliff would be that there would be some cuts in defense spending, which would not happen otherwise because “defense contractors are in practically every congressional district.”

He also said there would have to be some “cuts in human services,” which he didn’t like, but he accepted that “everyone is going to have to put something on the table here.”

Dean was adamant about one thing that should not be on the table: raising the Medicare-eligibility age, as that would make it virtually impossible for people aged 65 to 67 to get affordable health insurance. However, he said he had no objection to raising the retirement age when it came to Social Security.

And he said the other situation that must not be allowed to come to pass is an increase in tax rates now, with a promise of cuts to come. “This has to be a comprehensive package with spending cuts now — including entitlement cuts.”

Dean claimed that marginal tax rates have little to do with investment.

“If you go up to 70 percent, yeah, you’re talking some serious stuff that has something to do with investment, but what we’re talking about is a relatively minor adjustment from 35 percent to 39.6.”

© 2012 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
5:15 pm

Would it be of any use to explain to this individual

RB’s finally asking for help. Someone give the poor guy a hand.

GT

November 29th, 2012
5:17 pm

RB, Jesus said there will always be upon us the hungry and the poor. And I add the fools with ears that do not hear and eyes that do not see. And those not the hungry and poor will never see the door of heaven. I take Him at His word; He fights your battle for you. Never worry about being right or having people know you are right, He defines right not your persecutors.

CC

November 29th, 2012
5:19 pm

“What does it mean? Generally speaking, younger voters who cast repeated ballots for a particular party tend to form a lasting affiliation with that party.”

That “lasting affiliation” will last only until the government runs out of money to supply their freebies, the economy tanks even more and the unemployment rate goes from its current 16% to 21%. No money, no jobs and a terrible economy will bring those voters with their “lasting affiliation” with the democrat party back to their senses and the Republican Party.

It’s only a matter of time . . . and not very much time!

Oscar

November 29th, 2012
5:19 pm

That first cold snap is always very invigorating. Invigorating. It makes one vigorous. Very vigorous.

DannyX

November 29th, 2012
5:19 pm

Is this an example of the poor stealing from the rich, RB?

Walmart workers denied healthcare benefits while the top 6 Walmart executives make a combined 1.6 billion a year?

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
5:19 pm

Corbin

Forget newsmax. World Net Daily (birther central) is where it is at. They really have some “good” articles.

Oscar

November 29th, 2012
5:20 pm

Is this an example of the poor stealing from the rich, RB?

____

Taxation is not the poor stealing from the rich. It’s the poor reclaiming what was stolen from them.

RB from Gwinnett

November 29th, 2012
5:20 pm

“Jesus’ whole life was tending to the poor and sick. He was not a fan of the rich at all. ”

No, Danny, Jesus’ whole life was tending to the LOST. While I agree he was no fan of the GREEDY, he didn’t hate the rich as you’d like to claim.

“If the church asks for 10%…” Do you know the difference between “asking” and “taking”? There’s your answer.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
5:22 pm

RB’s finally asking for help. Someone give the poor guy a hand.

More than happy to oblige.

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:23 pm

RB

What is your interpretation of this from the Christ?

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”
– Matthew 22:21).

GT

November 29th, 2012
5:23 pm

If you were really Christian you would claim you are stewards, not owners of this money. Now that is comedical.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
5:25 pm

That “lasting affiliation” will last only until the government runs out of money to supply their freebies…

Aaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnddd, I quit reading.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
5:26 pm

What “Free Trade” Actually Means

The theoretical definition of a “free market” is one in which every individual actor in the realm of exchange exists in a state of equality of opportunity; where all compete with one another to produce the best products at the cheapest prices for consumers, thus the most innovative and efficient producers succeed while others fail, unregulated – and unhelped – by the state. Within “free markets,” what we call “free trade agreements” are meant to reduce barriers such as tariffs, subsidies and regulations so that market “competitors” can freely move products and goods across borders and compete in an ever-expanding global “free market.”

The functional, or technical, definition of a “free market” is one in which the state regulates the market – the realm of economic exchange and activity – for the benefit of large transnational corporations and banks.

Barriers to profits, such as environmental, labor, safety and financial regulations, are dismantled. Meanwhile, subsidies and legal rights and protections are granted to major corporations, undermining competition and supporting monopolization. So while the rhetoric of “free markets” tends to be all about reducing state interference in the economy, in actuality state interference increases – but only for the benefit of large corporations and banks.

At the same time, state “interference” decreases in sectors that benefit the actual population, such as welfare, social services, pensions, healthcare, education, labor protections and so on. In the actual “free market,” these protections are dismantled, subjecting populations to “market discipline” quite unlike the large corporations and banks that receive direct protection against “market discipline.” The most obvious example of this is the post-2008 bank bailouts.

This is a great article that is worth your reading. I invite you to save it to your “favorites” or bookmark it and read it later. It really shows how the American public is getting screwed.

Madmax

November 29th, 2012
5:27 pm

Jay – The election is over, time to stop the campaign drivel. If we relied on your paintbrush, you would believe there are only about 10% of the population that believe in conservative values; last I looked at the results, I saw over 46% of the vote going towards the party of tired, old white dudes. All this election proved was that your guy was better at painting Romney and the Republicans as a party of tired angy old white dudes (and you had some help from some very stupid comments made by both Romney and a couple of the senate candidates too). Unless your party puts up another cool balck dude, you may lose enough of the “cool” to find that we really aren’t the party you so desparately want us to be. We probably are your neighborrs, your friends and the guy behind the counter. We may be white, black, brown, gay, etc. Time to start talking about relevant topics and stop the rehashing of the campaign BS. I’ve stopped coming over because what you say is not relevant.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
5:27 pm

josef @ 5:23

You beat me to it.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
5:28 pm

I’ve stopped coming over because what you say is not relevant.

Available evidence suggests otherwise.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 29th, 2012
5:28 pm

RB — “Would it be of any use to explain to this individual the difference between choosing to be poor and being poor because of the choices one has made?”

No, but it’d be really neat for you to explain how you can tell the two kinds of poor folks apart. (giggling) :D

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
5:30 pm

Blessed are the cheesemakers.

And any other manufacturers of dairy products.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
5:30 pm

Madmax

And many of those same Democrat voters that some on the right love to demean fit the same descriptions as you depicted for Republican voters.

You are welcome.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
5:30 pm

Union

November 29th, 2012
5:30 pm

@ dannyx..

“But even that won’t be enough to balance the budget next year. More bad assumptions – about how much the state could take from local redevelopment agencies, and about how much tax the newly enriched owners of Facebook would be paying the state – mean that there’s still a $2billion shortfall looming in the fiscal year that begins next July 1.
But that gap is tiny compared with the scope of the problem that legislators and the governor have been dealing with. And California’s usually sober legislative analyst has projected that in the year after next, a small surplus will sprout. And grow.
By 2018, the analyst says, current spending and revenue trends will combine to produce annual surpluses in the $9 billion range. And that’s after paying for caseload growth in health and public assistance programs, more inmates in the prison system and cost-of-living increases for the schools. In fact, the five-year estimate shows school funding growing by $13 billion even though enrollment will be essentially flat.”

by 2018.. it will be a surplus.. if they dont spend anymore.. if the collect the taxes they think they are.. lot of ifs…

btw..

“California raids special funds in attempt to fix budget

10 September 2012
The administration of California Governor Jerry Brown and the Democratic Party controlled legislature are intensifying the practice of raiding special funds, including some that provide vital services to Californians. The impact will be overwhelmingly felt among the working class and the poor.
For the past decade, and increasingly since the current financial crisis began in 2008, the California State Treasury has been heavily borrowing money from various special fund accounts to pay for schools, social services and prisons—programs and agencies that normally would have been paid for out of the state’s general fund through the collection of income taxes, sales and property taxes. The result is that the state now owes $4.3 billion to special fund accounts. This is more than five times the amount the state owed in 2008.”

this is addition to the massive pension bailout that is coming for california.. not to mention the healthcare costs for just retired state employees is billions.. but.. just sprinkle some of that obama dust on there and let someone else pay for it

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
5:30 pm

No, but it’d be really neat for you to explain how you can tell the two kinds of poor folks apart.

There is a certain magic that exists in the checkout lines at Whole Foods.

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
5:31 pm

Josef

You need to run in 2016. You would check all the boxes on requirements for the party

:-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
5:33 pm

josef

Including the one that says oh crap what have we done.

:-)

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:33 pm

COMMON SENSE

And which party would that be? :-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
5:36 pm

Josef

Either That’s the great part LMAO

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
5:37 pm

Peter

November 29th, 2012
5:39 pm

A typical person will look in the mirror when they screw up, and say.OK I made a mistake, how do i correct my mistake so i do not make the same mistake yet again……..

Why are the Republican’s unable to look in the mirror, and say Ok maybe we are out of the main stream of reality ?

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:39 pm

COMMON

Yeah, but the problem is that neither one wants me in their tent! And that’s a good thing…for them and me both! On that, we’re agreed… :-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
5:44 pm

The Delusional Lickspittle Party maybe?

:-)

EOI’s only allowed LOL

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
5:45 pm

Oh and Bro as VP

:-)

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
5:47 pm

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:49 pm

COMMON SENSE

That’s the Delusional Lickspittle Plantation Liberal Party… :-)

I’ll go for Brosephus as VP and DDR as Attorney General…I’m thinking we need a new cabinet post, Secretary of Slave Owning Visionary Idealists…and we know who’s in the running for that one…which post are you interested in?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
5:50 pm

Delusional Lickspittle Party?

Fred as Secretary of State.

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
5:52 pm

Lots to choose from. Maybe we can bowwow Lindsey Graham’s BIG tent

:-)

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:52 pm

K’CHAK

I’ll go for that!

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

November 29th, 2012
5:52 pm

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:23 pm

Josef,
It means do your patriotic duty and pay your damned taxes.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
5:53 pm

The Delusional Lickspittle Party maybe?

Oh and Bro as VP

I don’t think America is quite ready for that yet. :lol:

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
5:53 pm

Fred as SOS hmmm.

Naw, too diplomatic

LOL

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:53 pm

COMMON SENSE

So, you’re for including light in the loafer’s pink elephants… :-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
5:54 pm

bowwow = borrow :-)

F. Sinkwich

November 29th, 2012
5:55 pm

“President Obama´s second inaugural ceremony will be focused around the theme of “Faith in America´s Future,” congressional organizers announced Thursday. The inaugural program will pay tribute to the nation´s “perseverance and unity,” the Joint Congressional Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies said in a press release.”

Faith in America’s Future???

How ironic.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
5:55 pm

They may be heroes to Falcons fans, but the culprits responsible for egging the New Orleans Saints team bus Wednesday night could be in trouble with the law.

Despicable.

Whoever did that should be thrown under the bus

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
5:55 pm

Sure

It’s a mightly big tent we need for all the delusional lickspittles if this blog is any indication :-)

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:56 pm

CORBIN

Sorta my take on it, too…

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
5:57 pm

Bro

We could cut down on the protection when you were with him LOL

josef

November 29th, 2012
5:57 pm

COMMON SENSE

I thought your Freudian slip was showing… :-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
6:00 pm

LOL

Lack of typing skills, not all of us are published authors yanno

:-)

josef

November 29th, 2012
6:02 pm

COMMON SENSE

I was thinking of putting Brosephus in charge of health insurance reform…the SONS OF THE CONFEDERATE VETERANS plan…

BROSEPHUS

We need to get Attorney General nominee DDR to work on that… :-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
6:05 pm

Josef

Bro is too young for SONS OF THE CONFEDERATE VETERANS plan

He would gut the plan and leave us old folks on an iceberg

:-)

Nunna Yobinnes

November 29th, 2012
6:05 pm

Common Sense – I was just wondering if you were channeling Baba Wawa.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
6:05 pm

kam and jam

Go check out next door. Tibs is a paranoid riot.

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
6:08 pm

Nunna Yobinnes

:-)

josef

November 29th, 2012
6:11 pm

COMMON SENSE

Yeah, maybe…but we could count on a HUGE donation from AETNA… :-)

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:12 pm

What’s up sport?!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
6:13 pm

Rightwing Troll

November 29th, 2012
6:13 pm

“He won because his ground game was better. His political machine was better. That’s it, period.”

Actually he mostly won because you wingnuts and your representatives couldn’t keep their stinking pieholes shut for the last two weeks of the election. All your idiotic, hateful, wrongheaded, rantings lies and ill favored prognostications probably drove the proverbial nail in the coffin. You started out as angry loons and ended up as angry loons… just with less angry loon skin in the game.

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
6:14 pm

Josef

speaking of delusional lickspittles

:-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
6:14 pm

What’s up sport?!

The sky.

josef

November 29th, 2012
6:15 pm

COMMON SENSE

I know thass right! :-)

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:15 pm

What’s crackin’ sport?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
6:16 pm

What’s up sport?!

Today’s DJIA

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:17 pm

I think sport got her panties twisted again. You gonna hold a grudge sport?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
6:17 pm

What’s up sport?!

Today’s NASDAQ index.

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
6:18 pm

I nominate Kam as chief of health insurance reform…the SONS OF THE CONFEDERATE VETERANS plan

:-)

Rightwing Troll

November 29th, 2012
6:18 pm

Step out your front door, open those eyes you’ve squeezed so tightly shut, take your fingers out of your ears, and turn off faux news for god’s sake… and quit screaming lalalalalalalala… when anybody tries to tell you the truth about ANYTHING…things ARE better and getting better everyday. There’s new construction everywhere you look, this past “Black Friday” was a huge success, consumers are getting more confident, wallets are coming out, the cycle of recovery continues without you wingnuts… imagine how good it could be if you’d pitch in?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
6:18 pm

What’s up sport?!

Today’s S&P 500 index.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:19 pm

What’s up sport?!

Sport’s blood pressure

Rightwing Troll

November 29th, 2012
6:19 pm

“What’s up sport?!”

Not gas prices…

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:20 pm

C’mon sport! Don’t get mad. You have that wonderful big deck that you can relax on and sport ’til your heart’s content. Don’t be a bad sport.

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")

November 29th, 2012
6:21 pm

Throwing in with the Democrats means aiding in the destruction of the country. Can’t be a part of that. Don’t want to have a conversation with George Washington in Heaven one day and have him say, “Why did you just let it go?”

Kudos to you folks on the election – you finally dumbed-down enough people and got enough illegal aliens or near-illegal aliens to vote for free stuff. Impressive. I personally did not think we were there yet, but we are. The prudent person will plan accordingly.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:22 pm

I nominate Kammie for Sports Minister.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
6:22 pm

Not gas prices…

But…but…but…I was assured that it would be $6 a gallon by election day….

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:23 pm

I don’t think sport likes me anymore. :/

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:24 pm

Nobody said anything about gas prices sport. Stop grasping. Not very sportmanlike.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
6:24 pm

We could cut down on the protection when you were with him LOL

That wouldn’t be the issue. I’d make Dick Cheney’s closed door quotes sound like he were the most pious man on Earth. I would have no problem at cussing out any of Congress who I felt deserved it. I’d probably sponsor weekly cuss-outs where people could cuss out the Congressperson of their choice in front of a national audience.

:)

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
6:27 pm

josef

Speaking of Aetna, guess which health insurance provider will offer the most expensive policy after a 25% premium increase over 2012’s prices???

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
6:28 pm

It seems like that for some unknown reason, Right-wing bloggers have a fixation on Kamchak on this blog. Who was that other guy? And now, this Nero creep. Try posting something of substance for a change.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:29 pm

Sport come back!!! I miss you!!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
6:30 pm

Who was that other guy?

Ben “I Pee My Pants At The Word Socialism” Shockley.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
6:30 pm

Bro

As VP, you just can’t go shooting people in face while on a hunting trip.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
6:30 pm

A little bird told me that Nero is none other than Tiberius in drag. Makes sense doesn’t it Nero = Tiberius — Roman emperors. The hate is the thing.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

November 29th, 2012
6:31 pm

Sooth,
Nero shows up on the day crew too…calls us leeches there, sports here. I honestly think he’s trying to come out, but doesn’t quite know how…just supposin’

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:31 pm

I’ll get to you in a second douchesayer. I’m trying to talk to Kam right now. She’s mad.

josef

November 29th, 2012
6:31 pm

COMMON

Oh, no…Kam doesn’t know the secret details…only Bro and I know that…! :-)

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:32 pm

No Corbin. Kam is the sport. You’re still a Boomer leech. Get it straight.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
6:34 pm

Well, we’ve got Fish Sandwich who is Andy/I Report/You Whine’s alter-ego and now we’ve got Nero who’s Dave R.’s alter-ego. What IS the world coming to? Things must be boring over at Kyle’s place tonight!

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:35 pm

Kammie is my new pet project. I want to be her best friend. :)

josef

November 29th, 2012
6:35 pm

BROSEPHUS

You shouldn’t've told me THAT!

And, yeah, I’ll definitely run on a national cuss your congressman day…hold a lottery for a chance to do it “face to face” in Congress…knock the hell out of that deficit in a year’s time…

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
6:37 pm

Grassroots movements, including the Occupy protests demonstrated the power of an informed and empowered citizenry. And there is little doubt that they helped us non-Republicans have great success on November 6.

Or would it be more correct to say that the irrational and enraged over-reaction by the right wing reactionaries helped the GOP lose the election?

Either way, it is time to make it count. And to end economic injustice.

The US Congress has until December 31st to ask the richest 2% of Americans to pay their fair share. Or they can do what they have done historically – put even more money in wealthy pockets at the expense of middle class families who can barely make ends meet.

As I have written many times (hat tip Ralph Nader), there is much too much money and power in too few hands and the system is corrupted to keep it that way.

It’s time to level the playing field. It’s time to make things right for we the people who built this country.

No more tax breaks to the people who need them least and who have profited the most from them.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:38 pm

I think douchesayer is paranoid. I’m my own person. Leeches tend to get a little delusional when the circlejerk is interrupted by an interloper. Hugs fix everything. C’mere Soothy.

josef

November 29th, 2012
6:38 pm

Oh, yeah, and ZamVet for Secretary of the Treasury!

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
6:39 pm

I’ll get to you in a second douchesayer.

Now I know that that would get you banned over at Kyle’s. Maybe Jay should adopt Kyle’s rules.

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
6:39 pm

Things must be boring over at Kyle’s place tonight!

Tonight???

The place has been a right wing morgue since November 6.

So……………. the intellectually immature inevitably make their way over here…

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
6:40 pm

Sooth

Certainly a regular but I doubt it is Dave. Both annoying and needy for attention, but different styles

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:41 pm

Kyle’s blog is weak. It’s much more fun to come over hear and engage all the Bookman sycophants. :)

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
6:41 pm

Poor ol’ Dave R. Here let me queue up that moving speech you delivered to the commission. I know everyone here would like to hear it. AND, to get to know YOU better! What do you say?

josef

November 29th, 2012
6:41 pm

ZamVet

“…the intellectually immature inevitably make their way over here…”

Well, just being EOI, but like shall seek like… and we do know how to make them feel at home… :-)

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:42 pm

Well at least suck figured out I’m not somebody else.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:43 pm

Try again Soothy

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:43 pm

Enter your comments here

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
6:44 pm

“Anyone who refers to another commenter by anything other than the handle the latter uses will be subject to a ban of at least one week.”

Too bad we don’t have the same rules here that Kyle has.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:45 pm

I guess sport is gonna stay butt hurt. I don’t blame her. She can dish it but can’t take it.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
6:45 pm

“Well at least suck figured out I’m not somebody else.”

Oh, you are someone else since the election, not just the one that was mentioned.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:46 pm

You gonna cry some more Soothy? You leeches do that so well.

josef

November 29th, 2012
6:46 pm

SOOTH

“Too bad we don’t have the same rules here that Kyle has.”

Why? That’d take all the fun out of it and stymie creativity…

Dekalb comments

November 29th, 2012
6:47 pm

I find it interesting that so many posters cannot stay on point with the subject of Bookman’s blog.

No one can deny significant demographic changes are re-shaping the country and the electorate. Either the Republicans find a compelling message or vision for the electorate or they will be increasingly marginalized.

If, as many conservatives believe, the new demographics reveal a “moocher” mentality, then the GOP needs to meet that mentality with facts and a plan, not “self-deportation”.

I for one challenge that premise but would accept it for argument’s sake. What will the GOP say or do with this demographic to win elections?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
6:47 pm

Tick…tick…tick….

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:47 pm

Suck,

No I’m relatively new. Just decided to stop lurking.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:47 pm

Sport! You’re back!:)

Libertarian and Proud

November 29th, 2012
6:48 pm

@Madge – “Gray Davis wanted to keep the extra money in the state’s coffers, the public wanted it back into their own hands.”

That’s right – God forbid that the most heavily taxes citizens in the country get a few of their dollars back when the Gov’t can spend it, and then complain that they need more because of the deficit. Rule #1 in Gov’t spending – make SURE you spend every dollar or your budget will get cut next year.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
6:49 pm

“No I’m relatively new. Just decided to stop lurking.”

If that makes you feel good. Run with it.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
6:49 pm

I find it interesting that so many posters cannot stay on point with the subject of Bookman’s blog.

After 7½ pages or so the topic is somewhat exhausted, so we kinda go off topic every now and then.

josef

November 29th, 2012
6:50 pm

DeKalb

“I find it interesting that so many posters cannot stay on point with the subject of Bookman’s blog.”

I’m assuming you’ve got a problem with serendipity. Jay’s blog is the old fashioned front porch in the cyber age…the sh*t you can learn here is, in and of itself, an education…

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:51 pm

DeKalb,

As week and spineless as Repubs are, they don’t have to do a thing. The leeches will overreach and it will all come burning down on top of their heads. They always do. It’s in their DNA to succumb to hubris.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
6:52 pm

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:53 pm

Suck finds comfort in being Bookman’s boot licker. You run with that if it makes you feel good.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
6:54 pm

nerd,

What is with all the hugs?

Are you some kind of weirdo?.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
6:54 pm

josef

The latest 25% increase puts them up 400% over the past 5 years.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
6:56 pm

No, I’m just not a retired Boomer future stealing leech. To me you can’t get more weird than that. Do you eat your young too?

josef

November 29th, 2012
6:58 pm

BROSEPHUS

SH*T! Maybe it’s past time we put the SONS OF THE CONFEDERATE VETERANS Plan in place…! Amazing, though, isn’t it? And where are Yankee Sharia and MAJOR historians on this one? I think we need to hold a conference with Professor Gates…

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
6:59 pm

getaife

A few weeks ago, I said it was time for the Falcons to lose down at the Big Easy.

I think it will be payback tonight.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
6:59 pm

“Do you eat your young too?”

Weird and creepy.

Is that you dave?

getalife

November 29th, 2012
7:01 pm

Both,

I think the Falcons will win too.

1-1.

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
7:01 pm

If a political party not only refuses to adapt but makes a refusal to recognize changing realities a central part of its identity, ebb and flow can be delayed for a long, long time.

And given that, can you say yet another big time electoral defeat for the GOP in 2014?

But if the nitwits think that their salivation lies in them not having to do a thing, I’m good with that too.

In fact, I could get real used to this…

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:03 pm

No old man. No Dave here. Call your nurse. I think your IV line has a kink in it.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
7:04 pm

I don’t know who this feller is, but he sure is inspiring.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:05 pm

Boomer leeches get so confused the closer it gets to collecting that check. Calm down getaleech. It’s coming.

Elections Have Consequences

November 29th, 2012
7:05 pm

Interesting. I noticed Jay modified his blog from this AM, wonder why?

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:05 pm

Long time sport! How are ya?

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
7:07 pm

Pomposity has a name and I think we all know what that name is!

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:09 pm

Sooth got her panties in a bunch too. :)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
7:09 pm

Pomposity has a name and I think we all know what that name is!

My bologna has a first name….

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
7:09 pm

Sooth

Asshattery does also

:-)

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
7:10 pm

If you can bullshyte for 3 minutes, I’d say that qualifies you to be an attorney. Whatayasay?

getalife

November 29th, 2012
7:10 pm

nerd,

Leechers are kooks like birthers.

Take off that silly hat.

Democratic Plantation Dweller

November 29th, 2012
7:11 pm

I am just glad that it is not my responsibility to take care of myself…it is the government’s responsibility to care for me.

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
7:12 pm

If a tin foil hat gets struck by lightning will it become a permanent fixture?

Inquiring minds want to know LOL

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
7:13 pm

What time is it? One thing I like about Dave R. is that he can stay up late like me since he don’t have to work. I think this may go on until the wee hours. I can’t wait!

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:14 pm

getaleech,

Boomer leeches are generational thieves. Stop stealing from future generations. Live within your means. The Greatest Generation would be ashamed of your greedy entitlement mentality. Walk away from the trough. You’re already too fat and bloated.

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
7:16 pm

get

I was thinking nero might be short for neurotic.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
7:16 pm

Josef

“Fascinating book this one”

Sorry for the late answer, I had to run out for dinner. Yes that’s the one…and you’re right, it’s fascinating!

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
7:17 pm

FOUR MORE YEARS of scrolling past the con loser’s whines. It’s worth every bit of the wear on the tip of my finger.

josef

November 29th, 2012
7:17 pm

NERO

“The Greatest Generation would be ashamed of your greedy entitlement mentality. Walk away from the trough. You’re already too fat and bloated.”

Oh, I don’t know about that. We are, after all, their children, their progeny, their legacy. They made us what we are today…and BTW, we haven’t done such a bad job of it, all things considered.

getalife

November 29th, 2012
7:18 pm

nerd,

You are doing a heck of a job.

Stay the course.

Dekalb comments

November 29th, 2012
7:18 pm

@Democratic Plantation Dweller….

Good…please come to my home tomorrow @ 08:00 hours and clean my house, mow my lawn and care for my animals. I will give you a hermetically sealed Twinkie.

Next Idiot….

josef

November 29th, 2012
7:19 pm

DOGGONE

That one completely rearranged my way of thinking along those lines…

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:20 pm

Sooth, I have a job. Somebody has to pay for your leech entitlements. You’re a Boomer leech too aren’t you? Explains a lot.

josef

November 29th, 2012
7:21 pm

Dekalb

Stay on topic! :-)

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:22 pm

Suck,

And here I was thinking that suck was short for….well suck. Nevermind. :/

Dekalb comments

November 29th, 2012
7:23 pm

I am on topic…..the new topic is Idiots on Parade

They BOTH suck

November 29th, 2012
7:24 pm

Nero

Don’t be scared. Speak your mind.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
7:25 pm

“If a tin foil hat gets struck by lightning will it become a permanent fixture?”

It might. I saw a show about lightening and they interviewed a woman who was struck by lightening down in Florida, and the strike tattooed her gold necklace into her skin.

josef

November 29th, 2012
7:25 pm

Dekalb

:-) But, you gotta admit, it’s a great cast of characters!

Oreo

November 29th, 2012
7:25 pm

Nero sounds a lot like the love child of Andy and USMC.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
7:25 pm

Falcons @ 8:00 NFL network (154 Dish Network). Let’s hope our Falcons whoop up on them Saints. (Sorry, getalife!)

Oh, and Nero/Tiberius/Dave R. I’m sorry I’m so hard on you. I really am. It’s just that you’re the type of person that makes it easy! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh well is wondering where you are over at Kyle’s blog! He’s lonely for you!

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
7:25 pm

Dekalb comments

the new topic is Idiots on Parade
————————————————–

Film it and post it on youtube for FNM :-)

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:25 pm

getaleech,

Thanks. I will. Right over the Cliff along with you cuts in your entitlements. It’s gonna be great!

RAMZAD

November 29th, 2012
7:26 pm

It not not take a course in Statistics for Engineers to see that the GOP is extinct. Just go to YouTube and look at the faces and the age demographics that were at the convention in Tampa.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:26 pm

You’re not so bad Sooth. At least you love the Falcons too. :)

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
7:26 pm

“That one completely rearranged my way of thinking along those lines…”

Yep, mine too.

Have you seen this yet: “Mermaids: The Body Found” on Animal Planet? If not, keep an eye out for it, they show it every now and then. But if you watch it, make SURE you watch it all the way to the very end. That’s very important.

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
7:27 pm

The party of handouts win again.

Now Forward! lemmings, over your cliff.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
7:27 pm

I am on topic…..the new topic is Idiots on Parade

Screw topic, that should be the theme here. :)

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
7:28 pm

Just go to YouTube and look at the faces and the age demographics that were at the convention in Tampa.
———————————-

The SAD thing is that they keep having heart attacks over their anger at Romney getting beaten.

TOO BAD

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
7:29 pm

“The party of handouts win again”

Well, if “winning” is the only goal…maybe the loser should pay better attention.

The GOV

November 29th, 2012
7:30 pm

“No I’m relatively new. Just decided to stop lurking.”

Sure you are weirdo. Get out of the shrubbery.

josef

November 29th, 2012
7:31 pm

DOGGONE

I’ve been struck by lightening….I was sitting at my typewriter one day (tells you how long ago THAT was!!) and talking on the telephone…the outside door was open and lightening struck the tree outside…the whole next few seconds was one of those “slow motion” things…the lightening balled and rolled through the door, and struck me. It went through me into the typewriter and ‘phone, killing them both but leaving me, well, stunned! There was no pain at all. But the most bizarre thing was the feeling in my mouth afterward. I was talking to a friend later who knows about these things and she told me that what had happened was that the strike had killed off the bacteria in my mouth and that what I was feeling was a clean mouth…probably the only time in my life I ever had one, metaphorically as well as literally…but she said had I not been on the phone and had my hands on the keyboard, it would probably have killed me…

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
7:32 pm

Josef

That explains a lot about you.

j/k Sorry I am weak sometimes :-)

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:33 pm

Thanks for the heads up GOV. The knights who say ni sure took their sweet time showing up.

josef

November 29th, 2012
7:33 pm

DOGGONE

Have not seen it…will do,,,thanks for the recommendation…

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
7:34 pm

At least you love the Falcons too.

Oh, I don’t love ‘em. Only when they’re winning. The rest of the time they’re just a bust of knee-cap-busting thugs in expensive suits!

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
7:34 pm

jamvet- The US Congress has until December 31st to ask the richest 2% of Americans to pay their fair share

Hurrah! You’ve covered up to 8% of the deficit! outstanding. Who cares if obama has no clue about how to take care of the other 92% as long as those evil rich guys get theirs. How dare they be successful why others starve…

PS: Those “starving” are morbidly obese but they are “starving” and someone needs to help those poor people.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
7:35 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_pT07DlB_Y

Just saw this on G4 and thought it was hilarious.

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
7:37 pm

Parasite is a much better noun/adjective than leech.

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:39 pm

Sooth,
I think you meant the NBA. I’m a diehard Falcon ’til the end. Love ‘em except Turner. He is torturous to watch off the snap. UGH!!!! So SLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWWW!!!

Nero

November 29th, 2012
7:39 pm

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
7:40 pm

josef

November 29th, 2012
7:41 pm

SOOTH

“Only when they’re winning.”

Yeah, but we love our Saints even when they’re not…

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
7:41 pm

2, you obviously have learned nothing at all from the recent election. And two of the three before that.

Excellent.

Just keep telling yourself how smart and industrious you are and how stupid and lazy everyone else is.

Your results/failures speak for themselves. (And Alan West says hello from the unemployment line.)

Keep up the good work…

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
7:42 pm

Josef,

Wow! I’ve never been that close. The closest I’ve ever come was lightening that struck near our house and the boom sounded like the end of the world…it was right over our roof. I had a friend tell me once that her house was struck…but when she described what happened it was even more shocking, so to speak. She went up in her “dog room” to check on some puppies that were in a portable pen, and when she touched it she said the house was struck. But what happened was that she was shocked, and thrown across the room. When she went outside to look for damage, the glass from the window in that room was in her driveway.

I said HON! Your house was not struck by lightening, it THREW OFF a bolt! So she got an electrician in and turned out her house was not grounded and it started the leader stroke and what she actually saw was the return stroke.

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
7:44 pm

doggone- Well, if “winning” is the only goal…maybe the loser should pay better attention.

I keep hoping the 47%ers will finally wake up and realize the lying POS’s they elect could care less about what happens to them and are only in it for themselves..

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
7:44 pm

lol, Kam.

Jamvet posted a hilarious video of a black teacher calling roll in a white class room.

I’ll see if I can find it, but if you are around JamVet,can you post that again?

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
7:45 pm

speak of the devil…

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
7:46 pm

“I keep hoping the 47%ers”

When you have to lie to make your point, you have NO POINT.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
7:46 pm

I got struck by lightnin’ one time. Her name was Thelma Lu.

josef

November 29th, 2012
7:46 pm

COMMON SENSE

:-)

DOGGONE
May Grandparents’ place and the Old Place had lightening rods…it was something to behold as a wee one…

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
7:46 pm

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
7:46 pm

jamvet- Just keep telling yourself how smart and industrious you are and how stupid and lazy everyone else is

Just say you got nothin”. You might find the truth liberating.

You and obama: Clueless together!

josef

November 29th, 2012
7:48 pm

SOOTH

Sooo,,,that’s what happened…was it in the back seat of a ‘57 Chevy? :-)

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
7:49 pm

I keep hoping the 47%ers will finally wake up and realize the lying POS’s they elect could care less about what happens to them and are only in it for themselves..

I just don’t see the eloquence in your message. Perhaps you could highlight it.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
7:49 pm

“it was something to behold as a wee one…”

I bet!

josef

November 29th, 2012
7:50 pm

IMAM

D*mn, Boy, already over 800 on this one and it’s only 8-ish…you may just break 1000. Is it sweeps week at the AJC?

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
7:51 pm

Enter your comments here

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
7:52 pm

doggone- When you have to lie to make your point, you have NO POINT

That’s why I’ve never voted for obama. Too bad more people don’t have that point of view.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
7:52 pm

was it in the back seat of a ‘57 Chevy

You’ll never drag it out of me!

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
7:52 pm

josef

He’s probably drinking bourbon and laughing at us.

Not kind Jay :-)

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
7:52 pm

Damn pop up ad!

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
7:53 pm

2, your meltdowns are interesting. Not as interesting as the supposedly new meat’s but pretty damn funny, nonetheless.

Gonna be a long, long, long few years you boys in the lunatic fringe. (Sandra Fluke sends kisses your way!)

Tea Party on, losers…

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
7:53 pm

“Too bad more people don’t have that point of view.”

Too bad you’re one of them that doesn’t have that point of view. You’re obviously quite happy to repeat a total lie, and think you’ve actually said something. You didn’t.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
7:54 pm

That’s why I’ve never voted for obama. Too bad more people don’t have that point of view.

Not everybody wants to be a 4 time loser.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
7:54 pm

Redneck Convert must be workin’ on the Missus’ “honey do list.” It’s not like him not to check in — especially before the big game! I’ll bet he’s already got a big ol’ bag of pork “rinds” and a “suitcase” of beer!

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

November 29th, 2012
7:56 pm

Back seat of a ‘57 Chevy? Nah, try the front seat of a ‘53 Ford…

josef

November 29th, 2012
7:56 pm

DOGGONE

M-ther N-ture’s fireworks, it was…

COMMON SENSE

Gotta respect a Bourbon man…all three kinds… :-)

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
7:57 pm

jamvet- Gonna be a long, long, long few years you boys in the lunatic fringe

Wish I could be blissful in obamaland too. Unfortunately some of have to live in the real world.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
7:57 pm

Nah, try the front seat of a ‘53 Ford…

Is that a gear shift in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
7:58 pm

OK, off to watch the game. Nero/Tiberius/Dave R.: I feel ya, man! Even tho’ we’re on different sides, I think you’re a good guy deep down inside. It’s just that you were oxygen-deprived as an infant! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

RAMZAD

November 29th, 2012
7:59 pm

Republicans have stopped looking and sounding like Frankenstein and are now more like angry comedians. It is so pleasant to be witness to their anger and rage. Thank God for the “half breed” Barack Obama.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
7:59 pm

“Is that a gear shift in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?”

Saw a story, long time ago, about a guy that passed out and when they got him to the hospital he had a cucumber stuffed in his shorts, and it put pressure on the big artery in his leg and caused him to pass out.

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
8:00 pm

kamchak- Not everybody wants to be a 4 time loser

Not sure if you’re keeping up with current events, but obama is president. That means we all lose.

josef

November 29th, 2012
8:00 pm

CORBIN

Back of a ‘65 Ford Station Wagon, barrel a*sing down 55 South on the way to Mardi Gras! :-)

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
8:01 pm

“That means we all lose.”

Another prediction. Did you predict a Romney win?

josef

November 29th, 2012
8:02 pm

DOGGONE
@ 7:59

Eeeewwww! :-)

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
8:03 pm

doggone- Another prediction. Did you predict a Romney win?

nope

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
8:04 pm

“Eeeewwww!”

My reaction exactly!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
8:04 pm

Not sure if you’re keeping up with current events, but obama is president.

Thanks for proving my point, now here’s a cookie.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
8:04 pm

he had a cucumber stuffed in his shorts, and it put pressure on the big artery in his leg and caused him to pass out.

Thank God I don’t got to worry about nothing “big” puttin’ pressure on the big artery in my leg!

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
8:06 pm

“nope”

Just prayed for it. Well, looks like you don’t have as much influence as you thought. God always answers prayer…and sometimes the answer is NO

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

November 29th, 2012
8:07 pm

Here’s something daunting…when the liberal crew implement their tax policy, watch revenue drop significantly…especially if accompanied by increases in cap gains and dividend income…that’s kinda the way it works…Just saying.

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
8:12 pm

josef

Gotta respect a Bourbon man…all three kinds
—————————————————————-

bad, worse and your mule has a kidney problem?

:-)

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
8:13 pm

This shocking revolation just in: Demwits luvs them some socialism (and big government).

Look Jay, it even has charts: http://www.gallup.com/poll/125645/Socialism-Viewed-Positively-Americans.aspx

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

November 29th, 2012
8:14 pm

In the spirit of the cliff discussions, I thought it would be fun to consider a few quotes:

“The best way to promote economic growth is to reduce the burden on private income and the deterrents to private initiative which are imposed by our present tax system-and this administration is pledged to an across the board reduction in personal and corporate income tax rates..”

JFK

I guess he also said ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country…guess you liberals don’t take that to heart anymore eh?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
8:15 pm

Shorter Stevie Ray: THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

November 29th, 2012
8:16 pm

JKL2

How many of those 36% actually knew what socialism was? They probably thought is was a club that accepted everyone…

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
8:17 pm

“JFK”

yep, you’re WAY late with those. And it might be instructive to check out the tax rates when he said that compared to what they are now.

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
8:17 pm

doggone- Just prayed for it. Well, looks like you don’t have as much influence as you thought

Last I checked, obama got his a$$ handed to him in the great state of GA. Technically, you lost just the same as I did.

josef

November 29th, 2012
8:18 pm

COMMON

:-)

Nyanh, the 1589 ones, the Restored Ones in the 1890s, and the aficionados of the whiskey…me? Got all three kinds in my veins! :-)

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

November 29th, 2012
8:19 pm

Howdy Kamchak

The sky is not falling, just income tax revenues…here an irony I know you can appreciate. The earned income tax credit (you know that free tax check many of those not paying taxes wait for on April 15th) costs $80 billion a year…increasing the tax rate on those making over $250k will generate…voila..$80 billion a year…

According to your folks, the sky isn’t scheduled to fall for another 50-100 years…of course more money will keep the sky afloat..

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
8:21 pm

Stevie Ray- I guess he also said ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country

Libs love to talk about how Reagan could be a Republican today (which I don’t agree with). JFK would be tarred and feathered by the Demwits. He’d be right at home in the Tea Party.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

November 29th, 2012
8:21 pm

Kam,. Josef,

In the front seat, I was too tall…had to open the drivers door…overhead light came on…tried to hold the button closed while “engaged”….ended up being a signal light before I gave up…..I did disengage the overhead light bulb before the next time though…

Welcome to the Occupation

November 29th, 2012
8:23 pm

Stevie Ray, do you know what the marginal rates were when Kennedy was president ?

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
8:24 pm

Here’s something daunting…when the liberal crew implement their tax policy, watch revenue drop significantly…especially if accompanied by increases in cap gains and dividend income…that’s kinda the way it works…Just saying.

Nanu nanu! Beware of the Laffer. Nanu nanu!

Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak

November 29th, 2012
8:24 pm

How many of those 36% actually knew what socialism was?

Socialism — BOO!

getalife

November 29th, 2012
8:25 pm

JFK in the tea party?

Whacko alert.

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
8:27 pm

Last I checked, obama got his a$$ handed to him in the great state of GA.

Obama was running for a Georgia office! Wow. The things that go on in a con’s mind are just… weird.

Soothsayer

November 29th, 2012
8:27 pm

The Falcons have the “retro” uniforms on tonight. Maybe that will break the “spell” NO has put on them.

One thing I like about the Falcons is Arthur Blank. He reminds me of when Teddy Turnstile owned the Braves. He really gives a shyte about the team and he hates losing. Sounds good to me!

josef

November 29th, 2012
8:27 pm

Funny thing about the Republicans and Reagan…all them Messicans he amnestied voted for Obama…looks like today’s Repubs ain’t exactly the party of Reagan in their eyes…

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

November 29th, 2012
8:28 pm

DOGGONE,

Yup. He cut the highest rate to 70% from 90% revenue exploded resulting in budget surpluses followed..In fact it worked so well when Reagan cut it from there to 28%, revenues also doubled..In 1986 when cap gains were heading back t o 28%, (huge selloffs) revenues from cap gains collapsed by half. In 97, when clinton backed the rate down to 20% cap gain revenues doubled. Same happened when Bush cut them to 15%…

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
8:29 pm

I just added more shares of MLP’s and REIT’s to my holdings. Oh NO! Does that mean I’ll have to pay TAXES! On my 10% yield! ARRRRGHHHHH! The horror.

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
8:29 pm

2, wallow in your self-righteous, self-inflicted misery.

I’ll pass…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
8:32 pm

Funny thing about the Republicans and Reagan…all them Messicans he amnestied voted for Obama…

“You go to the election with the candidate you have, not the candidate you wish to have.”
– Thomas “Donald Rumsfeld” Jefferson

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
8:32 pm

“Last I checked, obama got his a$$ handed to him in the great state of GA. Technically, you lost just the same as I did”

Technically, Georgia lost…not me.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
8:33 pm

josef @ 7:31

I just knowed sumthin wassn’t rite with you…. :)

————————-

Doggone

My wife actually got shocked when she was around 7-8 months pregnant with our daughter. She just happened to have her hand on the dryer when a bolt struck nearby. I have never, in my life, heard a scream like that before, and I hope to never hear that again. It didn’t throw her, but it scared the crap out of her and the baby as she didn’t move for a good period of time. We went to the hospital and everything checked out ok, but I think it was hours before the baby moved again.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

November 29th, 2012
8:34 pm

JLK

Here’s another fun one..”the weakness of the inducement to invest has been at all times the key to the economic problem….”

John Maynard Keynes..I don’t care who you are thats funny..

Increasing cap gains and dividend taxes I suggest fall into that category of a weak inducement…IMO..

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
8:36 pm

“but I think it was hours before the baby moved again.”

Oh, Bro! Damn that IS scary.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
8:41 pm

Libs love to talk about how Reagan could be a Republican today (which I don’t agree with).

If that wasn’t the mother of all honest admissions by a conservative on this blog…

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Welcome to the Occupation

November 29th, 2012
8:46 pm

John Kenneth Galbraith on the “wisdom” of the Kennedy planned tax cuts of 1962:

“I was never as enthusiastic as many of my fellow economists over the tax reductions of last year. The case for it as an isolated action was undoubtedly good. But there was danger that conservatives, once introduced to the delights of tax reduction, would like it too much. Tax reduction would then become a substitute for increased outlays on urgent social needs. We would have a new and reactionary form of Keynesianism with which to contend.

More prophetic words were perhaps never spoken in Washington.

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 29th, 2012
8:48 pm

Bro

The Democratic Party left me I didn’t leave them.

Then the Republican Party left me I didn’t leave them.

Doesn’t anyone want to Party?

:-)

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
8:49 pm

Welcome – yeah, Galbraith als said this: “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/john_kenneth_galbraith.html#tDTitLQfORJgOYIA.99

TaxPayer

November 29th, 2012
8:49 pm

Republicans should definitely put their money in money market funds. I hear some of them are getting close to 1% yield so there’s not much to be concerned about when it comes time to figure up taxes on that interest income, even if it is at 40%.

moonbat betty

November 29th, 2012
8:52 pm

Thanks for the clip JamVet.

Oh man, that freaking picture ^^up there^^ is classic. Seeing that liberal pull that poor elephant by the ear, while holding a weapon to its face is despicable!

Shame on you, liberals.

Welcome to the Occupation

November 29th, 2012
8:54 pm

Doggone: yep, that’s one’s spot on too, for sure.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
9:02 pm

Using John Maynard Keynes to rationalize greed..I don’t care who you are, that’s funny.

Patty

November 29th, 2012
9:02 pm

The young democrats of today are the republicans of tomorrow. Why’s that? Because when you’re young and idealistic, you think you can save the world; when you get some experience and start to raise a family, you realize that no matter how hard you try, you can’t save the world so you turn your concentration on saving yourself and those you love.

guy

November 29th, 2012
9:05 pm

JLK, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FACTS ARE. THANKS SO MUCH!

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
9:06 pm

“The young democrats of today are the republicans of tomorrow.”

Not always. I was quite conservative in my twenties…and the older I get, the more liberal I get

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
9:12 pm

Doggone

It usually takes me about 5 minutes or so to get to the exit where the hospital is from where I live. That night, I made it to the door of the emergency room in about 3 minutes. That was probably one of the worst feelings I’ve ever had.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
9:15 pm

“That was probably one of the worst feelings I’ve ever had.”

I can just imagine! And I know it was really serious, but there is a sort of funny side to it too…can’t you just see that baby thinking “what the hell did I do so deserve THAT?”

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
9:18 pm

Doesn’t anyone want to Party?

Well, I tried to start the F**k Politicians Party, but we refused to back any candidates. :)

Mick

November 29th, 2012
9:20 pm

** JFK would be tarred and feathered by the Demwits. He’d be right at home in the Tea Party.**

I was alive when JFK was around, he was a liberal, there’s not a snowballs chance in hell that he would be anyway associated with the iced tea party, otherwise known as angry old white men with palin fixation…now palin herself…on the other hand??? :lol:

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
9:21 pm

Doggone

For her first year or so, she was quite jumpy and easy to startle. She wouldn’t cry or scream, but unexpected noises would make her jump quite easily. I didn’t begin to make the connection until around her 3rd birthday when my wife and her brother were talking and that night came up.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
9:23 pm

“now palin herself…on the other hand??? ”

Oh come on! Give the guy credit for SOME good taste.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
9:23 pm

“I didn’t begin to make the connection until around her 3rd birthday when my wife and her brother were talking and that night came up”

That’s really interesting!

JamVet

November 29th, 2012
9:24 pm

Patty, that is not some immutable Newtonian Law.

And as Jay noted, the tide is turning.

Global warming is not a hoax, Darwin was not a quack and liberals are not enemies of the state.

If the GOP refuses to evolve, if they refuse to learn from their mistakes, if they continue their crusade against the rest of America and the world – and the evidence suggests that they are – they are going to become more and more and more marginalized.

He’d (JFK) be right at home in the Tea Party.

Wow.

Inscribed on the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, Washington, D.C.

If by a “Liberal” they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a “Liberal,” then I’m proud to say I’m a “Liberal.” ~John F. Kennedy, Acceptance of the New York Liberal Party nomination (14 September 1960)

Welcome to the Occupation

November 29th, 2012
9:26 pm

Patty 9:02, that vision you laid out is really one of the triumph of pure cynicism, if you think about it. Horizons narrowed. Visions lowered. Human aspiration and justice reduced to the crassest self-interest.

My own take on the hopelessly boring Churchillian bromide about becoming conservative with age is that people don’t so much become more conservative as they age, but they often do sell out to the system and thus become more cynical.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
9:29 pm

“My own take on the hopelessly boring Churchillian bromide about becoming conservative with age is that people don’t so much become more conservative as they age, but they often do sell out to the system and thus become more cynical.”

There is no proof that Churchill ever said that

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
9:31 pm

… people don’t so much become more conservative as they age, but they often do sell out to the system and thus become more cynical.

Depressingly astute observation.

I don’t know whether to be envious or proud that I didn’t come up with that.

Welcome to the Occupation

November 29th, 2012
9:32 pm

Kam: “Using John Maynard Keynes to rationalize greed..I don’t care who you are, that’s funny.”

Yeah, best way to subvert something is not to destroy it, but to turn it on its head.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
9:33 pm

Welcome

I see wisdom in that take on becoming conservative as one grows older. I guess that can somewhat explain why Black America remains more liberal minded, even when there are serious conservative streaks running through the community. We already know the system is fixed and we’re usually the one getting screwed, so we just live life to the fullest with whatever we have. No need to be a hoarding sourpuss throughout your golden years.

Tundra Dude

November 29th, 2012
9:36 pm

batty betty wrote:
Oh man, that freaking picture ^^up there^^ is classic. Seeing that liberal pull that poor elephant by the ear, while holding a weapon to its face is despicable!

Axshully, the elephant represents the Republican prez candidate, being handled by one of its masters…could be Norquist, Rove, Adelson, Koch,
or a Wall Street bankster…..

Welcome to the Occupation

November 29th, 2012
9:43 pm

That picture of the boy with elephant in India is one of my favorite I’ve seen on this blog.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 29th, 2012
9:43 pm

And next they went after the 401k’s !

Mick

November 29th, 2012
9:43 pm

doggone

Can’t do it…palin is a very attractive outdoorsy kind of women, she is a pretender as a politician. Hillary sets the bar on that score…

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
9:47 pm

“Can’t do it…palin is a very attractive outdoorsy kind of women”

Well, we an certainly not give YOU credit for SOME good taste. She’s a total phony, and it’s written all over her.

Mick

November 29th, 2012
9:48 pm

Conservative with age?
I guess I’m the flip side of that coin, rarely missed sunday mass the first thirty years of my life, then something happened. Tore off the shackles and I’m feeling more liberated than a man has a right to be…

Mick

November 29th, 2012
9:49 pm

**She’s a total phony, and it’s written all over her.**

She’s kinda cute in a phony kind of way…just sayin…

getalife

November 29th, 2012
9:53 pm

Tim proposed the deal.

Give him what he wants gop.

Get out ofour economy gop.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
9:54 pm

“She’s kinda cute in a phony kind of way…just sayin…”

Yeah? Well so are a lot of hookers…but THEY actually have to put out to get paid.

Atlanta1

November 29th, 2012
9:56 pm

I’m not going to reach 889 comments…

Just curious – which party has a majority of Governors? Pretty sure it’s Rep 30 – Dems 20.

Local state races – yep… Pretty sure there were significant gains in 2010 and 2012…

So what is ‘really’ going on?

The more liberal states became more liberal..

The more conservative states became more conservative..

Still a split country folks and I suspect that after four more years of this President we’ll see a huge swing back the other direction…

Mick

November 29th, 2012
9:58 pm

0311

Obama has the republicans in checkmate. He doesn’t have to do anything before december 31. Either before or after the deadline the only tax rates that will be going up are those making more than 250k. The rest is where the compromising begins, social security not included…

getalife

November 29th, 2012
10:03 pm

Our President is undefeated.

The gop are a joke.

Shut up and get out of the way cons.

Mick

November 29th, 2012
10:04 pm

doggone

Well now, I just happen to think ms. palin is a pretty good hustler and made the most of her 15 minutes, more power to her, just don’t let her near an elective office, there’s no “there” there…

getalife

November 29th, 2012
10:10 pm

Who thought the gop would say no to a tax cut and add regulations to our economy?

Downright liberal.

Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"

November 29th, 2012
10:16 pm

And next they went after the 401k’s !

Why not, it’s not like the GOP hasn’t already attacked Social Security and my defined pension. Why would they not go after my TSP?

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
10:17 pm

“just don’t let her near an elective office, there’s no “there” there…”

Well, once thing’s for sure…if you DO let her get elected it will be in the absolute certainty that she won’t be there long.

Morality?

November 29th, 2012
10:25 pm

After Obama takes you over the fiscal cliff he will be impeached.

Mick

November 29th, 2012
10:25 pm

brosephus

I don’t know where scout digs up this stuff but it makes absolutely no sense for either side to go after 401k’s, that’s not the problem.
Still, it’s the first I’ve heard of that, where’s rumor control these days???

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
10:27 pm

“After Obama takes you over the fiscal cliff he will be impeached.”

Just out of curiosity…what’s you percentage on predictions that came true and those that didn’t?

Mick

November 29th, 2012
10:28 pm

morality

The fiscal curb is a man made political illusion, don’t be fooled…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
10:30 pm

I don’t know where scout digs up this stuff but it makes absolutely no sense for either side to go after 401k’s, that’s not the problem.
Still, it’s the first I’ve heard of that, where’s rumor control these days???

It was on drudgey yesterday.

Rightwing troll

November 29th, 2012
10:37 pm

Here’s an idea for you wing nuts and tea tards… Raise the rates on the “job producers” but give them a tax break equaling the raise should they actually produce some jobs.

Where are the jobs Boner?

Rightwing troll

November 29th, 2012
10:38 pm

It comes from the same place his list of 5 impeachable offenses come from… He pulls it out of his old arse…

Dharma Bum

November 29th, 2012
10:50 pm

Meh, at this point Americans deserve whatever they get. Tax those making over 250,000$ at 50% and you still won’t solve the deficit issue. Eventually, spending will have to be cut and unfortunately things are going to have to get a whole lot worse before people realize this.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
10:51 pm

“Tax those making over 250,000$ at 50% and you still won’t solve the deficit issue”

Pointless statement. Got ANYthink worthwhile to say?

Dharma Bum

November 29th, 2012
10:56 pm

How is it pointless? Raising taxes on those making over 250,000$ in any amount will not raise the revenues necessary to offset our overinflated defense and welfare budgets.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
11:00 pm

“How is it pointless?”

You’re arguing against something that has not been proposed or even suggested.

Doggone/GA

November 29th, 2012
11:01 pm

Time to hit that sack…night all.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
11:21 pm

JKL2

November 29th, 2012
11:24 pm

taxpayer- Obama was running for a Georgia office! Wow. The things that go on in a con’s mind are just… weird

Just pointing out that you did nothing to get obama elected. Your Electoral votes went to Romney.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
11:30 pm

Your Electoral votes went to Romney.

But that doesn’t change the election results.

Crazy

November 29th, 2012
11:31 pm

And Romney lost. so what is your point?

Since you are talking EC votes. Romney really lost big

Now cry and make excuses then call names.

Patty

November 29th, 2012
11:31 pm

Wow, no wonder our country is in the mess it is–this group is the most ADD bunch I’ve seen since I taught 2nd grade.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 29th, 2012
11:46 pm

…this group is the most ADD bunch I’ve seen since I taught 2nd grade.

Ahhhh, I now see the origin of your rather puerile observation at 9:02.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 29th, 2012
11:47 pm

When someday in the future the government mandates by law that 401k’s be merged into social security under their control just remember there will be no “exemption” for liberals.

Be careful what you ask for.

Offshore account here I come, residency to follow

November 30th, 2012
12:16 am

Dems,

Costco has great prices on large sizes of KY. Your taxes are going up higher than your fearless leader promised!

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 30th, 2012
12:30 am

Offshore:

LOL! Yep, they’ll get no exemptions !!

Patty

November 30th, 2012
12:31 am

‘Ahhhh, I now see the origin of your rather puerile observation at 9:02.’

I forgot–if someone doesn’t agree with you Libs or offers a difference of opinion, you resort to put downs. But good for you–at least, you’re getting some use out of that dictionary Mommy and Daddy bought you.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 30th, 2012
12:35 am

I forgot–if someone doesn’t agree with you Libs or offers a difference of opinion, you resort to put downs.

And your comment about 2nd graders with ADD?

Glass house, meet stone.

Patty

November 30th, 2012
12:47 am

Ahh, but I didn’t hone in on anyone in that comment–just making an observation. You just jumped to a conclusion.

getalife

November 30th, 2012
12:49 am

Congrats Falcons.

Patty,

Our cons do act like like children and you would know this fact if you read this blog.

They lost twice and they are having a hard time dealing with it.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 30th, 2012
12:57 am

Ahh, but I didn’t hone in on anyone in that comment–just making an observation. You just jumped to a conclusion.

That plank in your eye is just getting in the way of you seeing things clearly

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 30th, 2012
1:00 am

Congrats Falcons.

Thanks.

That egging the Saints team bus thingie — our bad.

I hope the perpetrators are caught and dealt with in a harsh and swift manner.

getalife

November 30th, 2012
1:05 am

Kam,

No problem.

Good luck in the playoffs.

marko

November 30th, 2012
5:46 am

Just glancing at the photos, of the gang of nineteen, I noticed that several had forgotten their flags. RINO’s? One had his hair parted on the wrong side. Gay perhaps? With the exception of the Eddie Munster look alike, dead center, I couldn’t identify any of those dudes. It’s said that people vote for people they wouldn’t mind sharing a couple of beers with. If so, I get the sense that these guys are in serious trouble. Americans are a tolerant bunch. we’ll overlook little things like Skin pigmentation, gender even sexual orientation. However we draw the line at boring. There are things that even a tolerant people won’t tolerate.

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
5:54 am

When someday in the future the government mandates by law that 401k’s be merged into social security

After all the shenanigans that rightwingers (both Rep and Dem) have pulled over the past several decades trying to steal from SS, this^^ latest whinge from the Insane Drudge Posse has to be the most audacious.

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
5:59 am

“After Obama takes you over the fiscal cliff he will be impeached.”

Just out of curiosity…what’s you percentage on predictions that came true and those that didn’t?

Actually, I’ve been saying for years now that as long as the House remains in GOP hands and Obama’s re-elected, I assume they WILL impeach Obama, given that this party has already dumbed down the definition of a “high crime and/or misdemeanor” to “lying about an affair.” So why not go there again?

/drive-by

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 30th, 2012
6:13 am

Oh, if it were a perfect world…

http://cheezburger.com/6773093376

:D

middle of the road

November 30th, 2012
6:22 am

When you get reasonable Republicans running, the party calls them RINOs and expels them. Wonder why us independents in the middle don’t vote Republican very often?

TaxPayer

November 30th, 2012
6:27 am

Perhaps Scout would have preferred to have Lehman Brothers handling his retirement funds.

Drudge

November 30th, 2012
6:31 am

Reading a lot of comments here – you all do realize what a 1 party system of government is, right? Your enthusiasm terrifies me.

Fred ™

November 30th, 2012
6:39 am

Another day, another blog full of whining by the sore losers and them posting the same tired crap that MAKES them losers.

They will never learn.

TaxPayer

November 30th, 2012
6:40 am

you all do realize what a 1 party system of government is, right?

We know what Georgia has worked toward and I, for one, am hardly enthusiastic about it but I’ll survive. I know how to deal with Republicans. Just smile and tell them what they want to hear…

Rightwing Troll

November 30th, 2012
6:40 am

I went to bed last night… did I miss any Watergates?…

At my last count I had 9 Watergate moments that wingnuts and the lying liars at Faux News had harrumphed about…

Speaking of impeachment, Scout has a list of 5 impeachable offenses that he won’t share with us, though it’s been a few years since he told that particular lie… I’m sure the list is much longer now.

josef

November 30th, 2012
6:54 am

Okay, morning crew, y’all gotta get Our Boy to over 1000…sweeps week…

CORBIN
Is it just me, or does that Rove @ 9:13 look just like Jeff Dunham’s WALTER? :-)

****************

Anyhoo…happy Friday, play nice and be happy…Baby Jesus’ birthday’s coming up…and so is Dec. 21, so I’ll go ahead and get my best wishes in early just in case…early happy birthday, Cuzzin’ JC…

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 30th, 2012
7:08 am

Josef,
Good morning,
Yes! I see it!

Are you off today, or just off work? :D

barking frog

November 30th, 2012
7:10 am

ebb and flow could be political porn stars…

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
7:31 am

Speaking of impeachment, Scout has a list of 5 impeachable offenses that he won’t share with us

Still waiting for that, along with the “unholy churches and even entire unholy denominations’ that he’s claimed “our country is full of.”

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
7:33 am

Baby Jesus’ birthday’s coming up…

I prefer to think of Him as “Jesus our brother, kind and good.”

Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!

November 30th, 2012
7:38 am

Stands,
I prefer to think of Jesus as a good Jewish Prophet, who had his trademark stolen…

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 30th, 2012
7:40 am

“Baby Jesus’ birthday’s coming up…

I prefer to think of Him as “Jesus our brother, kind and good.””

I prefer to think of it as the mid-winter solstice …

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
7:40 am

Duly noted, Corbin.

Also too Gooper Charter-Skool Bullspit SHEETZ.

stands for decibels

November 30th, 2012
7:41 am

and yeah, UnU, the solstice is the Reason for the Season.

(emphasis on Reason.)

headin’ upstairs.

TaxPayer

November 30th, 2012
7:42 am

I prefer to think of Jesus as a good Jewish Prophet, who had his trademark stolen…

…and abused by some that call themselves “Christians”.

Brosephus™

November 30th, 2012
7:43 am

Scout’s good for amusement and laughs, but I wouldn’t expect anything resembling truth in regards to his political rantings here.

Patty

November 30th, 2012
7:59 am

Another one of those quandaries for Libs–demanding that a conservative forgo their faith in dealings of a political nature while flinging the cord of their faith at them. That’s truly talking out of both sides of your mouth.

jays Brain

November 30th, 2012
6:15 pm

Yeah jay, and as the great Mayor of Detroit has pointed out, We have totally become an entitlement society. Now who the heck promotes that jay? Why your demorats that you carry the propaganda message for that is who. DUH
if only you were as smart as Mayor Bing