For Republicans, some daunting numbers
You can lead an elephant to water but ...
Some numbers:
– Thirty-three U.S. Senate seats were up for grabs in the 2012 election. Democrats won 25 of those 33 seats.
– Mitt Romney is going to the White House today to have lunch, not to check out his new crib. And the main reason he will have to dine and dash is because American women rejected both his candidacy and his party, voting for Barack Obama by a margin of 55-44 percent. The gender differential in most down-ticket races was even larger.
– The Republican-run U.S. House has 19 major committees. Next year, it appears that all 19 will be chaired by white males.
– The current Republican House caucus includes 24 women. Next year, that number will drop to 19.
– In the last three presidential election cycles, Americans under 30 voted Democratic by an average of 60 percent. And lest Republicans try to comfort themselves with the argument that it’s nothing new, that young voters always vote Democratic, it simply is not true. In the previous eight election cycles, an average of just 46.5 percent of young people had voted for the Democrat.
What does it mean? Generally speaking, younger voters who cast repeated ballots for a particular party tend to form a lasting affiliation with that party.
– On Wednesday, House Speaker John Boehner reiterated his caucus’s strong opposition to raising taxes on the wealthy. Also on Wednesday, a new Washington Post poll was released reporting that just 37 percent of Americans agree with the position that Boehner and others have made the central focus of their party’s economic identity.
As longtime conservative Bruce Bartlett puts it in his much-cited piece for The American Conservative:
“At least a few conservatives now recognize that Republicans suffer for epistemic closure. They were genuinely shocked at Romney’s loss because they ignored every poll not produced by a right-wing pollster such as Rasmussen or approved by right-wing pundits such as the perpetually wrong Dick Morris. Living in the Fox News cocoon, most Republicans had no clue that they were losing or that their ideas were both stupid and politically unpopular.
I am disinclined to think that Republicans are yet ready for a serious questioning of their philosophy or strategy. They comfort themselves with the fact that they held the House (due to gerrymandering) and think that just improving their get-out-the-vote system and throwing a few bones to the Latino community will fix their problem. There appears to be no recognition that their defects are far, far deeper and will require serious introspection and rethinking of how Republicans can win going forward. The alternative is permanent loss of the White House and probably the Senate as well, which means they can only temporarily block Democratic initiatives and never advance their own.”
Political power ebbs and flows. It always has and always will. But it doesn’t just ebb and flow on its own. It fluctuates because losing parties take stock of why they’re losing and adapt to changing realities. If a political party not only refuses to adapt but makes a refusal to recognize changing realities a central part of its identity, ebb and flow can be delayed for a long, long time.
– Jay Bookman
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JamVet
November 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
betty,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7FixvoKBw
JKL2
November 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
jamvet- Just keep telling yourself how smart and industrious you are and how stupid and lazy everyone else is
Just say you got nothin”. You might find the truth liberating.
You and obama: Clueless together!
josef
November 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
SOOTH
Sooo,,,that’s what happened…was it in the back seat of a ‘57 Chevy?
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2012
7:49 pm
I keep hoping the 47%ers will finally wake up and realize the lying POS’s they elect could care less about what happens to them and are only in it for themselves..
I just don’t see the eloquence in your message. Perhaps you could highlight it.
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
7:49 pm
“it was something to behold as a wee one…”
I bet!
josef
November 29th, 2012
7:50 pm
IMAM
D*mn, Boy, already over 800 on this one and it’s only 8-ish…you may just break 1000. Is it sweeps week at the AJC?
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
Enter your comments here
JKL2
November 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
doggone- When you have to lie to make your point, you have NO POINT
That’s why I’ve never voted for obama. Too bad more people don’t have that point of view.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
was it in the back seat of a ‘57 Chevy
You’ll never drag it out of me!
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
josef
He’s probably drinking bourbon and laughing at us.
Not kind Jay
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
Damn pop up ad!
JamVet
November 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
2, your meltdowns are interesting. Not as interesting as the supposedly new meat’s but pretty damn funny, nonetheless.
Gonna be a long, long, long few years you boys in the lunatic fringe. (Sandra Fluke sends kisses your way!)
Tea Party on, losers…
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
“Too bad more people don’t have that point of view.”
Too bad you’re one of them that doesn’t have that point of view. You’re obviously quite happy to repeat a total lie, and think you’ve actually said something. You didn’t.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
That’s why I’ve never voted for obama. Too bad more people don’t have that point of view.
Not everybody wants to be a 4 time loser.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
Redneck Convert must be workin’ on the Missus’ “honey do list.” It’s not like him not to check in — especially before the big game! I’ll bet he’s already got a big ol’ bag of pork “rinds” and a “suitcase” of beer!
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
November 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
Back seat of a ‘57 Chevy? Nah, try the front seat of a ‘53 Ford…
josef
November 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
DOGGONE
M-ther N-ture’s fireworks, it was…
COMMON SENSE
Gotta respect a Bourbon man…all three kinds…
JKL2
November 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
jamvet- Gonna be a long, long, long few years you boys in the lunatic fringe
Wish I could be blissful in obamaland too. Unfortunately some of have to live in the real world.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
Nah, try the front seat of a ‘53 Ford…
Is that a gear shift in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
OK, off to watch the game. Nero/Tiberius/Dave R.: I feel ya, man! Even tho’ we’re on different sides, I think you’re a good guy deep down inside. It’s just that you were oxygen-deprived as an infant! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
RAMZAD
November 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
Republicans have stopped looking and sounding like Frankenstein and are now more like angry comedians. It is so pleasant to be witness to their anger and rage. Thank God for the “half breed” Barack Obama.
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
“Is that a gear shift in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?”
Saw a story, long time ago, about a guy that passed out and when they got him to the hospital he had a cucumber stuffed in his shorts, and it put pressure on the big artery in his leg and caused him to pass out.
JKL2
November 29th, 2012
8:00 pm
kamchak- Not everybody wants to be a 4 time loser
Not sure if you’re keeping up with current events, but obama is president. That means we all lose.
josef
November 29th, 2012
8:00 pm
CORBIN
Back of a ‘65 Ford Station Wagon, barrel a*sing down 55 South on the way to Mardi Gras!
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
“That means we all lose.”
Another prediction. Did you predict a Romney win?
josef
November 29th, 2012
8:02 pm
DOGGONE
@ 7:59
Eeeewwww!
JKL2
November 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
doggone- Another prediction. Did you predict a Romney win?
nope
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
“Eeeewwww!”
My reaction exactly!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
Not sure if you’re keeping up with current events, but obama is president.
Thanks for proving my point, now here’s a cookie.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
he had a cucumber stuffed in his shorts, and it put pressure on the big artery in his leg and caused him to pass out.
Thank God I don’t got to worry about nothing “big” puttin’ pressure on the big artery in my leg!
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
8:06 pm
“nope”
Just prayed for it. Well, looks like you don’t have as much influence as you thought. God always answers prayer…and sometimes the answer is NO
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
Here’s something daunting…when the liberal crew implement their tax policy, watch revenue drop significantly…especially if accompanied by increases in cap gains and dividend income…that’s kinda the way it works…Just saying.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 29th, 2012
8:12 pm
josef
Gotta respect a Bourbon man…all three kinds
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bad, worse and your mule has a kidney problem?
JKL2
November 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
This shocking revolation just in: Demwits luvs them some socialism (and big government).
Look Jay, it even has charts: http://www.gallup.com/poll/125645/Socialism-Viewed-Positively-Americans.aspx
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
In the spirit of the cliff discussions, I thought it would be fun to consider a few quotes:
“The best way to promote economic growth is to reduce the burden on private income and the deterrents to private initiative which are imposed by our present tax system-and this administration is pledged to an across the board reduction in personal and corporate income tax rates..”
JFK
I guess he also said ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country…guess you liberals don’t take that to heart anymore eh?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
Shorter Stevie Ray: THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 29th, 2012
8:16 pm
JKL2
How many of those 36% actually knew what socialism was? They probably thought is was a club that accepted everyone…
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
8:17 pm
“JFK”
yep, you’re WAY late with those. And it might be instructive to check out the tax rates when he said that compared to what they are now.
JKL2
November 29th, 2012
8:17 pm
doggone- Just prayed for it. Well, looks like you don’t have as much influence as you thought
Last I checked, obama got his a$$ handed to him in the great state of GA. Technically, you lost just the same as I did.
josef
November 29th, 2012
8:18 pm
COMMON
Nyanh, the 1589 ones, the Restored Ones in the 1890s, and the aficionados of the whiskey…me? Got all three kinds in my veins!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 29th, 2012
8:19 pm
Howdy Kamchak
The sky is not falling, just income tax revenues…here an irony I know you can appreciate. The earned income tax credit (you know that free tax check many of those not paying taxes wait for on April 15th) costs $80 billion a year…increasing the tax rate on those making over $250k will generate…voila..$80 billion a year…
According to your folks, the sky isn’t scheduled to fall for another 50-100 years…of course more money will keep the sky afloat..
JKL2
November 29th, 2012
8:21 pm
Stevie Ray- I guess he also said ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country
Libs love to talk about how Reagan could be a Republican today (which I don’t agree with). JFK would be tarred and feathered by the Demwits. He’d be right at home in the Tea Party.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
November 29th, 2012
8:21 pm
Kam,. Josef,
In the front seat, I was too tall…had to open the drivers door…overhead light came on…tried to hold the button closed while “engaged”….ended up being a signal light before I gave up…..I did disengage the overhead light bulb before the next time though…
Welcome to the Occupation
November 29th, 2012
8:23 pm
Stevie Ray, do you know what the marginal rates were when Kennedy was president ?
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2012
8:24 pm
Here’s something daunting…when the liberal crew implement their tax policy, watch revenue drop significantly…especially if accompanied by increases in cap gains and dividend income…that’s kinda the way it works…Just saying.
Nanu nanu! Beware of the Laffer. Nanu nanu!
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
November 29th, 2012
8:24 pm
How many of those 36% actually knew what socialism was?
Socialism — BOO!
getalife
November 29th, 2012
8:25 pm
JFK in the tea party?
Whacko alert.
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2012
8:27 pm
Last I checked, obama got his a$$ handed to him in the great state of GA.
Obama was running for a Georgia office! Wow. The things that go on in a con’s mind are just… weird.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2012
8:27 pm
The Falcons have the “retro” uniforms on tonight. Maybe that will break the “spell” NO has put on them.
One thing I like about the Falcons is Arthur Blank. He reminds me of when Teddy Turnstile owned the Braves. He really gives a shyte about the team and he hates losing. Sounds good to me!
josef
November 29th, 2012
8:27 pm
Funny thing about the Republicans and Reagan…all them Messicans he amnestied voted for Obama…looks like today’s Repubs ain’t exactly the party of Reagan in their eyes…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 29th, 2012
8:28 pm
DOGGONE,
Yup. He cut the highest rate to 70% from 90% revenue exploded resulting in budget surpluses followed..In fact it worked so well when Reagan cut it from there to 28%, revenues also doubled..In 1986 when cap gains were heading back t o 28%, (huge selloffs) revenues from cap gains collapsed by half. In 97, when clinton backed the rate down to 20% cap gain revenues doubled. Same happened when Bush cut them to 15%…
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2012
8:29 pm
I just added more shares of MLP’s and REIT’s to my holdings. Oh NO! Does that mean I’ll have to pay TAXES! On my 10% yield! ARRRRGHHHHH! The horror.
JamVet
November 29th, 2012
8:29 pm
2, wallow in your self-righteous, self-inflicted misery.
I’ll pass…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
8:32 pm
Funny thing about the Republicans and Reagan…all them Messicans he amnestied voted for Obama…
“You go to the election with the candidate you have, not the candidate you wish to have.”
– Thomas “Donald Rumsfeld” Jefferson
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
8:32 pm
“Last I checked, obama got his a$$ handed to him in the great state of GA. Technically, you lost just the same as I did”
Technically, Georgia lost…not me.
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
November 29th, 2012
8:33 pm
josef @ 7:31
I just knowed sumthin wassn’t rite with you….
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Doggone
My wife actually got shocked when she was around 7-8 months pregnant with our daughter. She just happened to have her hand on the dryer when a bolt struck nearby. I have never, in my life, heard a scream like that before, and I hope to never hear that again. It didn’t throw her, but it scared the crap out of her and the baby as she didn’t move for a good period of time. We went to the hospital and everything checked out ok, but I think it was hours before the baby moved again.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 29th, 2012
8:34 pm
JLK
Here’s another fun one..”the weakness of the inducement to invest has been at all times the key to the economic problem….”
John Maynard Keynes..I don’t care who you are thats funny..
Increasing cap gains and dividend taxes I suggest fall into that category of a weak inducement…IMO..
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
8:36 pm
“but I think it was hours before the baby moved again.”
Oh, Bro! Damn that IS scary.
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
November 29th, 2012
8:41 pm
Libs love to talk about how Reagan could be a Republican today (which I don’t agree with).
If that wasn’t the mother of all honest admissions by a conservative on this blog…
Welcome to the Occupation
November 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
John Kenneth Galbraith on the “wisdom” of the Kennedy planned tax cuts of 1962:
“I was never as enthusiastic as many of my fellow economists over the tax reductions of last year. The case for it as an isolated action was undoubtedly good. But there was danger that conservatives, once introduced to the delights of tax reduction, would like it too much. Tax reduction would then become a substitute for increased outlays on urgent social needs. We would have a new and reactionary form of Keynesianism with which to contend.”
More prophetic words were perhaps never spoken in Washington.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 29th, 2012
8:48 pm
Bro
The Democratic Party left me I didn’t leave them.
Then the Republican Party left me I didn’t leave them.
Doesn’t anyone want to Party?
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
8:49 pm
Welcome – yeah, Galbraith als said this: “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/john_kenneth_galbraith.html#tDTitLQfORJgOYIA.99
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2012
8:49 pm
Republicans should definitely put their money in money market funds. I hear some of them are getting close to 1% yield so there’s not much to be concerned about when it comes time to figure up taxes on that interest income, even if it is at 40%.
moonbat betty
November 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
Thanks for the clip JamVet.
Oh man, that freaking picture ^^up there^^ is classic. Seeing that liberal pull that poor elephant by the ear, while holding a weapon to its face is despicable!
Shame on you, liberals.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 29th, 2012
8:54 pm
Doggone: yep, that’s one’s spot on too, for sure.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
Using John Maynard Keynes to rationalize greed..I don’t care who you are, that’s funny.
Patty
November 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
The young democrats of today are the republicans of tomorrow. Why’s that? Because when you’re young and idealistic, you think you can save the world; when you get some experience and start to raise a family, you realize that no matter how hard you try, you can’t save the world so you turn your concentration on saving yourself and those you love.
guy
November 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
JLK, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FACTS ARE. THANKS SO MUCH!
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
9:06 pm
“The young democrats of today are the republicans of tomorrow.”
Not always. I was quite conservative in my twenties…and the older I get, the more liberal I get
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
November 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
Doggone
It usually takes me about 5 minutes or so to get to the exit where the hospital is from where I live. That night, I made it to the door of the emergency room in about 3 minutes. That was probably one of the worst feelings I’ve ever had.
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
9:15 pm
“That was probably one of the worst feelings I’ve ever had.”
I can just imagine! And I know it was really serious, but there is a sort of funny side to it too…can’t you just see that baby thinking “what the hell did I do so deserve THAT?”
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
November 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
Doesn’t anyone want to Party?
Well, I tried to start the F**k Politicians Party, but we refused to back any candidates.
Mick
November 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
** JFK would be tarred and feathered by the Demwits. He’d be right at home in the Tea Party.**
I was alive when JFK was around, he was a liberal, there’s not a snowballs chance in hell that he would be anyway associated with the iced tea party, otherwise known as angry old white men with palin fixation…now palin herself…on the other hand???
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
November 29th, 2012
9:21 pm
Doggone
For her first year or so, she was quite jumpy and easy to startle. She wouldn’t cry or scream, but unexpected noises would make her jump quite easily. I didn’t begin to make the connection until around her 3rd birthday when my wife and her brother were talking and that night came up.
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
9:23 pm
“now palin herself…on the other hand??? ”
Oh come on! Give the guy credit for SOME good taste.
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
9:23 pm
“I didn’t begin to make the connection until around her 3rd birthday when my wife and her brother were talking and that night came up”
That’s really interesting!
JamVet
November 29th, 2012
9:24 pm
Patty, that is not some immutable Newtonian Law.
And as Jay noted, the tide is turning.
Global warming is not a hoax, Darwin was not a quack and liberals are not enemies of the state.
If the GOP refuses to evolve, if they refuse to learn from their mistakes, if they continue their crusade against the rest of America and the world – and the evidence suggests that they are – they are going to become more and more and more marginalized.
He’d (JFK) be right at home in the Tea Party.
Wow.
Inscribed on the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, Washington, D.C.
If by a “Liberal” they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a “Liberal,” then I’m proud to say I’m a “Liberal.” ~John F. Kennedy, Acceptance of the New York Liberal Party nomination (14 September 1960)
Welcome to the Occupation
November 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
Patty 9:02, that vision you laid out is really one of the triumph of pure cynicism, if you think about it. Horizons narrowed. Visions lowered. Human aspiration and justice reduced to the crassest self-interest.
My own take on the hopelessly boring Churchillian bromide about becoming conservative with age is that people don’t so much become more conservative as they age, but they often do sell out to the system and thus become more cynical.
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
9:29 pm
“My own take on the hopelessly boring Churchillian bromide about becoming conservative with age is that people don’t so much become more conservative as they age, but they often do sell out to the system and thus become more cynical.”
There is no proof that Churchill ever said that
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
9:31 pm
… people don’t so much become more conservative as they age, but they often do sell out to the system and thus become more cynical.
Depressingly astute observation.
I don’t know whether to be envious or proud that I didn’t come up with that.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 29th, 2012
9:32 pm
Kam: “Using John Maynard Keynes to rationalize greed..I don’t care who you are, that’s funny.”
Yeah, best way to subvert something is not to destroy it, but to turn it on its head.
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
November 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
Welcome
I see wisdom in that take on becoming conservative as one grows older. I guess that can somewhat explain why Black America remains more liberal minded, even when there are serious conservative streaks running through the community. We already know the system is fixed and we’re usually the one getting screwed, so we just live life to the fullest with whatever we have. No need to be a hoarding sourpuss throughout your golden years.
Tundra Dude
November 29th, 2012
9:36 pm
batty betty wrote:
Oh man, that freaking picture ^^up there^^ is classic. Seeing that liberal pull that poor elephant by the ear, while holding a weapon to its face is despicable!
Axshully, the elephant represents the Republican prez candidate, being handled by one of its masters…could be Norquist, Rove, Adelson, Koch,
or a Wall Street bankster…..
Welcome to the Occupation
November 29th, 2012
9:43 pm
That picture of the boy with elephant in India is one of my favorite I’ve seen on this blog.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 29th, 2012
9:43 pm
And next they went after the 401k’s !
Mick
November 29th, 2012
9:43 pm
doggone
Can’t do it…palin is a very attractive outdoorsy kind of women, she is a pretender as a politician. Hillary sets the bar on that score…
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
9:47 pm
“Can’t do it…palin is a very attractive outdoorsy kind of women”
Well, we an certainly not give YOU credit for SOME good taste. She’s a total phony, and it’s written all over her.
Mick
November 29th, 2012
9:48 pm
Conservative with age?
I guess I’m the flip side of that coin, rarely missed sunday mass the first thirty years of my life, then something happened. Tore off the shackles and I’m feeling more liberated than a man has a right to be…
Mick
November 29th, 2012
9:49 pm
**She’s a total phony, and it’s written all over her.**
She’s kinda cute in a phony kind of way…just sayin…
getalife
November 29th, 2012
9:53 pm
Tim proposed the deal.
Give him what he wants gop.
Get out ofour economy gop.
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
9:54 pm
“She’s kinda cute in a phony kind of way…just sayin…”
Yeah? Well so are a lot of hookers…but THEY actually have to put out to get paid.
Atlanta1
November 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
I’m not going to reach 889 comments…
Just curious – which party has a majority of Governors? Pretty sure it’s Rep 30 – Dems 20.
Local state races – yep… Pretty sure there were significant gains in 2010 and 2012…
So what is ‘really’ going on?
The more liberal states became more liberal..
The more conservative states became more conservative..
Still a split country folks and I suspect that after four more years of this President we’ll see a huge swing back the other direction…
Mick
November 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
0311
Obama has the republicans in checkmate. He doesn’t have to do anything before december 31. Either before or after the deadline the only tax rates that will be going up are those making more than 250k. The rest is where the compromising begins, social security not included…
getalife
November 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
Our President is undefeated.
The gop are a joke.
Shut up and get out of the way cons.
Mick
November 29th, 2012
10:04 pm
doggone
Well now, I just happen to think ms. palin is a pretty good hustler and made the most of her 15 minutes, more power to her, just don’t let her near an elective office, there’s no “there” there…
getalife
November 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
Who thought the gop would say no to a tax cut and add regulations to our economy?
Downright liberal.
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
November 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
And next they went after the 401k’s !
Why not, it’s not like the GOP hasn’t already attacked Social Security and my defined pension. Why would they not go after my TSP?
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
“just don’t let her near an elective office, there’s no “there” there…”
Well, once thing’s for sure…if you DO let her get elected it will be in the absolute certainty that she won’t be there long.
Morality?
November 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
After Obama takes you over the fiscal cliff he will be impeached.
Mick
November 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
brosephus
I don’t know where scout digs up this stuff but it makes absolutely no sense for either side to go after 401k’s, that’s not the problem.
Still, it’s the first I’ve heard of that, where’s rumor control these days???