For Republicans, some daunting numbers
You can lead an elephant to water but ...
Some numbers:
– Thirty-three U.S. Senate seats were up for grabs in the 2012 election. Democrats won 25 of those 33 seats.
– Mitt Romney is going to the White House today to have lunch, not to check out his new crib. And the main reason he will have to dine and dash is because American women rejected both his candidacy and his party, voting for Barack Obama by a margin of 55-44 percent. The gender differential in most down-ticket races was even larger.
– The Republican-run U.S. House has 19 major committees. Next year, it appears that all 19 will be chaired by white males.
– The current Republican House caucus includes 24 women. Next year, that number will drop to 19.
– In the last three presidential election cycles, Americans under 30 voted Democratic by an average of 60 percent. And lest Republicans try to comfort themselves with the argument that it’s nothing new, that young voters always vote Democratic, it simply is not true. In the previous eight election cycles, an average of just 46.5 percent of young people had voted for the Democrat.
What does it mean? Generally speaking, younger voters who cast repeated ballots for a particular party tend to form a lasting affiliation with that party.
– On Wednesday, House Speaker John Boehner reiterated his caucus’s strong opposition to raising taxes on the wealthy. Also on Wednesday, a new Washington Post poll was released reporting that just 37 percent of Americans agree with the position that Boehner and others have made the central focus of their party’s economic identity.
As longtime conservative Bruce Bartlett puts it in his much-cited piece for The American Conservative:
“At least a few conservatives now recognize that Republicans suffer for epistemic closure. They were genuinely shocked at Romney’s loss because they ignored every poll not produced by a right-wing pollster such as Rasmussen or approved by right-wing pundits such as the perpetually wrong Dick Morris. Living in the Fox News cocoon, most Republicans had no clue that they were losing or that their ideas were both stupid and politically unpopular.
I am disinclined to think that Republicans are yet ready for a serious questioning of their philosophy or strategy. They comfort themselves with the fact that they held the House (due to gerrymandering) and think that just improving their get-out-the-vote system and throwing a few bones to the Latino community will fix their problem. There appears to be no recognition that their defects are far, far deeper and will require serious introspection and rethinking of how Republicans can win going forward. The alternative is permanent loss of the White House and probably the Senate as well, which means they can only temporarily block Democratic initiatives and never advance their own.”
Political power ebbs and flows. It always has and always will. But it doesn’t just ebb and flow on its own. It fluctuates because losing parties take stock of why they’re losing and adapt to changing realities. If a political party not only refuses to adapt but makes a refusal to recognize changing realities a central part of its identity, ebb and flow can be delayed for a long, long time.
– Jay Bookman
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Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
Now, if we could only get the young skulls full of mush to vote with their brains instead of their emotions and body parts
Are you trying to say that the human brain is somehow NOT a body part?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
SfD — “He’s 88, might not have him much longer, but I’d like him to survive to see his wing of the party (or at least what I consider to be that more rational, reasonable, if now-closeted side) able to re-assert itself.”
I was proud to vote for Bush the Elder back in the day (was still wearing Army green in those days) and I wish him a speedy recovery.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
3:46 pm
Doggone – somebody stole my gills!
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
3:46 pm
“I’d say clothes are more a cultural norm than a physical necessity. If you want to walk around in Olympic Park nekikid for most of the year, you’re going to get busted for public nudity long before you ever catch cold”
Well, that doesn’t explain our more primitive ancestors who had no Olympic Park. And yes, clothing of SOME sort is a necessity in all but a very small area of the world. Mankind can only suvive a very narrow temperature range without assistance from clothing.
Class of '98
November 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
Jay, if you posted a picture of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, it would be nothing but white men as well. That pretty much explains why liberals despise the Constitution so much.
If the election of 2012 taught us anything, it’s that non-whites and females are not only expected to hate white males, but are encouraged to do so. Especially by liberal white males like Jay Bookman.
Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!
November 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
Stands,
I agree. I always respected his WWII service. He flew Avengers, if you didn’t know that. Got shot down around Iwo Jima, I think. They have a cool video of him being pulled out of the water by a Sub. Us Navy to the rescue…
In the middle
November 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
It is a fact that the GOP is in trouble. With an increasing number of voters that need the government to survive outpacing the numbers of voters that survive in their own, the days of the right are numbered. It is all but certain that the self reliant are going extinct. I say give up now and become a lifelong victim. Blame everybody else for your lot in life. Become a democrat.
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
“Doggone – somebody stole my gills!”
How many sea based mammals have gills?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
A. Shrugged — “Don’t play Aqua’s game. I don’t need my psych degree to see most of her ranting posts are driven by sexual frustration and p*nis envy!”
My understanding is that Aquagirl does just fine. She’s simply a liberal who *fights back,* same as I do.
I know that doesn’t make sense to conservatives like yourself, but there it is.
Besides, if you go down that road, someone’s going to insult someone else’s dinky, red cards will be thrown and everything will go all to hell. And nobody wants that in here.
Class of '98
November 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
And you still look like Katherine Sebelius.
Aquagirl
November 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
most of her ranting posts are driven by sexual frustration and p*nis envy!
The only time I had pen!s envy is when I was out in the woods on field exercises during winter.
Then in Summer I had shaved head envy, you pick up some interesting hitchhikers after a few days. Ew.
Corbin Sharpe. Baby Boomer leech...and earned it!
November 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
America Shrugged,
you have no class at all.
Flying High
November 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
“If the election of 2012 taught us anything, it’s that non-whites and females are not only expected to hate white males, but are encouraged to do so.”
Your words and vivid imagination or you can substantiate that with more than rhetoric and lies?
Thought so.
Good day
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
Doggone – Yes, but sea based mammals are at a distinct disadvantage in the water as opposed to animals with gills. Sometimes things block your ability to get to the surface to breathe.
Flying High
November 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
“Don’t play Aqua’s game. I don’t need my psych degree to see most of her ranting posts are driven by sexual frustration and p*nis envy!”
You must have looked evaluated yourself and are now projecting onto others.
AmericaShrugged
November 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
Aqua – Good retort, I’m still lol!!!
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
November 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
The GOP / TEA turds RIP…LOL
Aquagirl
November 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
sea based mammals are at a distinct disadvantage in the water as opposed to animals with gills
Sucks to be y’all.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
Aquagirl – Does that mean you are a mermaid?
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
“Yes, but sea based mammals are at a distinct disadvantage in the water as opposed to animals with gills. Sometimes things block your ability to get to the surface to breathe”
Yet they are successful as a species. And maybe you missed the HALF-WAY part of my reply.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
Orcas are disadvantaged?
Union
November 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
DannyX
November 29th, 2012
3:15 pm
“California recently got rid of their Republican Governor. Their new budget is now forecast to show a surplus. I agree with Union, we must keep Republicans out of power.”
umm.. surplus.. ok… well.. we know how you voted and why…
stands for decibels
November 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
If the election of 2012 taught us anything, it’s that non-whites and females are not only expected to hate white males, but are encouraged to do so
geez, someone call a wahhhmbulance.
Marietta Al
November 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
Steve, when did personal responsibility become such a part of the Democrat ideology? Sure it makes sense the 250k guy should get by, but who’s to judge his life’s mistakes any more than the dolt who jacked around in high school and college years and now wants govt handouts?
Joe, simmer down with the “eff” bombs…sorry for your issues. My point is if you have $0 disposable income if you’re making 25k or 250k… its still $0.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
Aquagirl — “The only time I had pen!s envy is when I was out in the woods on field exercises during winter. ”
Fun Fact: If you’re hunting/hiking/etc. out in the woods and you have a male dog with you, he’ll whiz anywhere you do. Fencepost? Dog will go there too. Bush? So will the dog.
DannyX
November 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
“umm.. surplus.. ok… well.. we know how you voted and why…”
Sorry Union, I didn’t mean to make you stutter.
stands for decibels
November 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
They have a cool video of him being pulled out of the water by a Sub.
yep, seen it, maybe others haven’t, so…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_ovbnRg4RE
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
Kamchak – No, Orcas are good, but they still have to eventually surface to breathe. I always figured an Orca could kick a great white shark’s #$$, but if two or three of them got the orca, they could hold it underwater until it drowned.
Ronald Reagan
November 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
Nice elephant!
Union
November 29th, 2012
3:58 pm
DannyX
November 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
Sorry Union, I didn’t mean to make you stutter.
caused by complete ignorance..
Joe Hussein Mama
November 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
Marietta Al — “Joe, simmer down with the “eff” bombs…”
Shove off with your presumption that only the wealthy can get stuck with financial + family + health issues.
“sorry for your issues.”
You’re the one that postulated how damn awful it would be for a lawyer making $500K to have those problems. Since you seem to know so much about it, how about you school me on how someone making $125K/annum ought to handle them?
“My point is if you have $0 disposable income if you’re making 25k or 250k… its still $0.”
And my point is that problems of the sort you brought up will hit someone making $25K one HELL of a lot harder than someone making $500K. And cancer doesn’t know or care how much you make.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
I always figured an Orca could kick a great white shark’s #$$, but if two or three of them got the orca, they could hold it underwater until it drowned.
(shrug) Anything with gills has to keep moving, or it too will drown.
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
“I always figured an Orca could kick a great white shark’s #$$, but if two or three of them got the orca, they could hold it underwater until it drowned.”
You need to watch the video of the Orca that held a Great White Shark upside down until it died.
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
November 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
The only time I had pen!s envy is when I was out in the woods on field exercises during winter.
Couldn’t write your name in the snow, huh?
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
4:00 pm
“I always figured an Orca could kick a great white shark’s #$$, but if two or three of them got the orca, they could hold it underwater until it drowned.”
Oh, and BTW…sharks can’t hold still that long. They have to move pretty often to keep water flowing over their gills. They sharks would “drown” long before the Orca would. Orca can hold their breath for a LOT longer than you may realize.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
4:00 pm
Some sharks, such as great whites do have to keep swimming, but not all sharks.
AmericaShrugged
November 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
The fundamental economic problem now is high unemployment. As we moved from manufacturing to a service economy labor has become the largest expense on the income statement for health care, insurance, banking, tech, and telecommunications. When times got tough these companies learned how to cut labor without significantly reducing productivity.
So what we need is a jobs bill with tax incentives: work force goes down, company pays more federal tax, work force goes up, company pays less tax. GDP and tax revenues increase while expenses from unemployment comp and Medicaid go down.
Japan hit debt of 200% GDP but still has good per capita income and only recently hit 4% unemployment!
curious
November 29th, 2012
4:02 pm
All this time I thought the Republicans were smart, but seeing them spend so many millions on a lost cause makes me believe they’re the party of
1- lottery players
2- Pro wrestling believers
3- Bernie madoff investors
4- Enron stock holders
5- Bill frist telephonic medical exams
As PT Barnum said; “There’s a sucker born every minute”.
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
4:03 pm
“Some sharks, such as great whites do have to keep swimming, but not all sharks.”
And there’s something else you haven’t considered: sharks jaws and teeth are not designed to “hold” things for a long period of time.
saywhat?
November 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
“No, Orcas are good, but they still have to eventually surface to breathe. I always figured an Orca could kick a great white shark’s #$$, but if two or three of them got the orca, they could hold it underwater until it drowned.”
_____________________________________________________
If the sharks had frickin’ laser beams mounted on their heads it would only take one Great White to take out a whole pod of Orcas.
moonbat betty
November 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
The boy in the picture is most likely a DAWG fan.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
Doggone – Not sure if we’re talking about the same video, but I have seen a video where an orca killed a great white shark (albeit only a 10 footer), and gave the shark’s liver to its baby. Sorry, I can’t resist, I wonder if it also had a bottle of chianti and fava beans.
Aquagirl
November 29th, 2012
4:06 pm
Does that mean you are a mermaid?
Goodness no, I’m not THAT mean to you guys. Besides, those b!tches are lazy and high-maintenance.
DannyX
November 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
“caused by complete ignorance..”
Union, why don’t you tell me where your ignorance is? The fact that you didn’t know California has been led by mostly Republican governors the past 40 years? Or the fact that you didn’t know California is now projecting a budget surplus because a Democrat is now leading the way? Both of those? I’d like to help you.
Libertarian and Proud
November 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
DannyX – From the Sacramento Bee 15 Nov 2012 — “The state’s fiscal analyst said Wednesday that California’s long-tattered budget is on the verge of producing surpluses, but he cautioned that Gov. Jerry Brown and lawmakers must first avoid a spending spree.” Democrats spending other people’s money – why are we not surprised?
moonbat betty
November 29th, 2012
4:08 pm
An elephant could kick a donkey’s ass.
But a DAWG could kick both of their asses with one leg tied behind his head. j/k.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
…labor has become the largest expense on the income statement…
There’s your sign.
So what we need is a jobs bill with tax incentives: work force goes down, company pays more federal tax, work force goes up, company pays less tax. GDP and tax revenues increase while expenses from unemployment comp and Medicaid go down.
As I recall, Reagan used the same justification in the 80s to retool factories and retrain the workers. Instead, corporate America used the windfall to float junk-bonds and using the proceeds did the leveraged buyout thingie, sold off the assets of the rust belt and eliminated thousands of career types offering “jobs” instead.
So, eff your “jobs” bill!
josef
November 29th, 2012
4:11 pm
Talking to younger voters, many who would subscribe to the GOP economic or foreign policy platforms, draw the line with the GOP’s social agenda. They simply cannot or will not subscribe to what they feel are archaic stances. It costs the party at the ballot
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
4:11 pm
“Not sure if we’re talking about the same video, but I have seen a video where an orca killed a great white shark (albeit only a 10 footer), and gave the shark’s liver to its baby”
No, definitely not the same one. The one I’ve seen is an Orca killing and eating a full grown great white. There was a National Geographic show about it called “The Whale that ate Jaws”
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
Haven’t seen that one. Sounds interesting though.
Ol' Timer
November 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
To paraphrase ol’ Josh Billings, “It’s not that the Republicans don’t know but that so much of what they know for sure just ain’t so;”
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
November 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
“If so when Romney and Ryan walk into the White House, they should start playing “Didn’t we almost have it all” by Whitney Houston.”
I prefer this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKnlOgEIpBg
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
“Haven’t seen that one. Sounds interesting though.”
BTW…it might have been the same whale that you saw, it just wasn’t the incident I had in mind. Apparently the whale in the Nat Geo show was in the habit of hunting sharks
DannyX
November 29th, 2012
4:15 pm
” Democrats spending other people’s money – why are we not surprised?”
Lol libertarian! I see you are trying to erase the memory of Arnold Schwarzenegger from the equation. Much like George W Bush memory syndrome.
Your point? Republicans caused the deficit, a Democrat is fixing it, but that doesn’t fit your script so you add the “spending spree” scare.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
4:16 pm
We’re tallkin’ about sharkin’, Mr. Hooper. Workin’ for a living.
Aquagirl
November 29th, 2012
4:16 pm
If the sharks had frickin’ laser beams mounted on their heads it would only take one Great White to take out a whole pod of Orcas
Sharks don’t need no stinkin’ laser beams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBizgLZX7W0
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
4:18 pm
I prefer this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKnlOgEIpBg
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
I think that elephant might be the reincarnation of Michael Jackson. It’s got that spotty pigment thing going on.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
That’s some bad hat, Harry.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
4:21 pm
Hangs around young boys too.
Erwin's cat
November 29th, 2012
4:22 pm
One can make 100K and do really well.
what’s your definition of “really well”?
They BOTH suck
November 29th, 2012
4:24 pm
josef @ 4:11
Agreed, yet in their efforts to appease a well financed part of the base, they continue to hedge their bets.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
what’s your definition of “really well”?
Opposable thumbs and not living in a box immediately leaps to mind.
josef
November 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
There’s a lot of folks in today and seems to be a good mood day…full moon, I guess…
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
4:26 pm
It beats the constant bickering.
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
November 29th, 2012
4:28 pm
Kam
josef
November 29th, 2012
4:28 pm
BOTH
They’ll be pulled kicking and screaming into the 21st Century…much like their Democrat counterparts and the 20th…
GT
November 29th, 2012
4:30 pm
The Republican Party pushes the envelop to see how much they can get a way with. It is like letting a brunch of fake wrestlers into the Royal wedding. They know they don’t fit, they know they are not part of this but they want to stay, entertain themselves eating food rudely and bullying everybody in sight until someone has the courage to ask them to leave.
I think about the man from the Tea Party, somewhere in the mid west, who escorted the president around a campaign stop interrupting every sentence Obama made and demanding why the president had called him a terrorist, as he demonstrated being a terrorist. Or the US Congressman from South Carolina, who shouted out, in a State of the Union speech, liar, interrupting our president. The contempt these people have for our country to lack the grace of respect any representative of this country deserves. And you wonder why the steam is coming out of this movement; Americans don’t feel moved by anti-American movements.
They BOTH suck
November 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
josef
Exactly. Outside of the social issues, there are some good things in the Republican message. Too bad it is in many cases outweighed by the social issues.
It will continue to sale in certain states and districts, but without change it will eventually become an albatross on the national level.
Erwin's cat
November 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
Kam @4:25
sure but other than that…
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
I agree with you GT. Even if you don’t agree with the candidate, you should respect the office.
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
November 29th, 2012
4:35 pm
josef @ 4:11
It’s just not the “younger” voters. Some of us “byproducts of the 70’s” kids don’t care for that crap either.
Marietta Al
November 29th, 2012
4:35 pm
LOL Joe Mama you really like pity don’t you? My point is that if you make money you are NOT immune to life’s curveballs, contrary to how you read it and try to point out. Your woe is me posting tries to say that I was saying that life is harder for “rich” guy to deal with crap than poor guy? Well you’re dead wrong! Good spin on it though. Get over yourself man.
josef
November 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
GT
“…lack the grace of respect any representative of this country deserves…”
Not that I approve of the lack of common manners, but why in the name of G-d, is “ANY representative of the country “deserving of any more respect than is shown on the highway, in the check out line, or any other place the populace interacts?
Libertarian and Proud
November 29th, 2012
4:37 pm
@DannyX – “…that doesn’t fit your script so you add the “spending spree” scare.”
I didn’t add a single word. The quote is from the Sacramento Bee 15 Nov 2012. If you have a problem with your beloved party going on a “spending spree”, address it with them. I’m just a citizen. I have no spending authority and as I’m not a member of the media I can not participate in scare tactics. Sounds as if you’re a little afraid of your God-sent Jerry Brown blowing his “surplus”, ala-Obama style.
josef
November 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
BROSEPHUS
“It’s just not the “younger” voters. Some of us “byproducts of the 70’s” kids don’t care for that crap either.”
Like I said, the “younger” voters!
Regnad Kcin
November 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
“Jay, if you posted a picture of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, it would be nothing but white men as well. That pretty much explains why liberals despise the Constitution so much.”
That pretty much explains why you’re an idiot… *sigh*
AU Liberal in ATL
November 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
The writing is on the wall. They can see it, they can read it, but they still don’t get it. They’re painting the house and landscaping the front yard, but walk inside and there’s that old shag carpet on the floor, wood paneling on the wall and a big old console TV in the living room. It may look new and different on the outside, but on the inside nothing has changed. They’re a dying breed. Good riddance.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
Do SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS! have daunting numbers, also?
Brosephus™: "Browning America Since 1973"
November 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
josef
Who you calling young?? I’m old enough to be your youngest brother.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 29th, 2012
4:44 pm
GT – That sentiment also goes the other way though. I still envision Joseph Lowery’s smug remarks to President Bush. Completely uncalled for. Unfortunately however, that seems to be funny to some folks.
DannyX
November 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
“I didn’t add a single word.”
Lib and Proud, you did post it didn’t you???? You did take the time to cut and paste it didn’t you??? You where trying to make a point weren’t you???
My bet is you just couldn’t believe California was forecasting a budget surplus so you ran to Google to prove me wrong. Ha ha, I was right!
josef
November 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
K’CHAK
BROSEPHUS
But, I’m old enough to be yore daddy…at least given where we hail from!
Oscar
November 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
Liberals don’t despise the Constitution.
To say they do is to reveal how ignorant you are.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
Marietta Al — “LOL Joe Mama you really like pity don’t you?”
I don’t need your or anyone else’s pity, and if you knew me at all, you’d recognize what a ridiculous statement you just made.
“My point is that if you make money you are NOT immune to life’s curveballs, contrary to how you read it and try to point out.”
And my point is that if you *don’t* make money, those curveballs hit a lot harder than they do if you *do* happen to have money. Stop being so obtuse, Al.
“Your woe is me posting”
I made no such posting, your dramatically incorrect misreading notwithstanding.
“tries to say that I was saying that life is harder for “rich” guy to deal with crap than poor guy?”
Nope. I neither said nor implied any such thing. I’ve told you several times now what I’m trying to get across to you, and for some reason, you keep trying to insist that I’m saying something completely different.
“Well you’re dead wrong!”
No, I’m not. You’re simply incorrect in your reading of what I posted.
“Good spin on it though.”
The only spin here is your own, Al. Clean the poop out of your ears and listen more closely.
“Get over yourself man.”
Grow up and listen to what others are saying instead of trying to speak for them, Al.
Oscar
November 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
There’s a lot of folks in today and seems to be a good mood day…full moon, I guess
____
Not all of us.
And last night they were blaming the bickering on the full moon.
Just what is a full moon good for, any way. Putting women into labor? My guess is impregnation goes up when it’s a full moon also. Especially in October.
josef
November 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
BOTH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U
Madge From Accounting
November 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
Al: Why do people care so much about others wealth?! I just don’t get it. Rich this poor that, who gives a @#$@#$? Who determines that someone is wealthy and has so much disposable income that they can afford more of their money to go to the government?
Al, do you know what those rich playboy Kennedy’s family motto is?
To whom much is given, much is expected
This is the family who’s whole life follows this creed. They didn’t get the creed from the old robber (the patriach of the family), but from their mother, the family matriarch. A strong woman with strong ideals and a strong sense of right and wrong.
The Kennedy’s individually and together did these things for America:
*Sponsored the country’s first major job training program
*Started Special Olympics
*During his campaign, Kennedy had visited the rural poverty areas of Appalachia. ( A famous photo contrasts a handsome, well-polished Kennedy standing in front of a destitute Appalachian family on its front porch)18 Once elected, Kennedy created the Area Redevelopment Agency in 1961.19 This agency provided support in the form of loans, subsidies, and public works to local businesses in poverty areas such as Appalachia.
*Started ommunity Mental Health Centers Act was passed in 1963.20 This act provided federal funds to public or private nonprofit organizations for construction, and later staffing, of community mental health centers providing outpatient and prevention services.
*Started the Juvenile Delinquency and Youth Offenses Control Act
*The Kennedy Administration passed tax credits for business investment and increased business depreciation allowances.22 These policy changes, along with an income tax cut passed in 1964, contributed to the continued economic growth of the 1960s.
josef
November 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
OSCAR
Funny you should say that…most of Mom’s and Dad’s kids have birthdays in the late spring and early summer…”nine months after the first cold snap!”
JamVet
November 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
Perhaps somebody should enlighten 98 as to what the real reason is! (Introspection apparently being a non-Republican thing!)
Libertarian and Proud
November 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
@DannyX – As a FORMER resident of California, I often read the Bee to see what’s happening in the old stomping grounds. Thank God I moved out of that State (during the hell-hole Gray Davis years – a Democrat by the way). As to your assumed intelligence, all I can do is laugh, bid you a great day, and hope someday you pull your head out of your own ass and see the blue sky I see every morning. “Forward!” (oh, PS – since 1960, CA has had 9 Governors – 5 R & 4 D. Both sides are to blame for the problems, not just Arnold).
RB from Gwinnett
November 29th, 2012
4:55 pm
DannyX, “It’s amazing how the Republican party, home to the conservative Christian, worship the rich. It’s actually the anti-Jesus party now, Jesus reached out to the poor and the sick, and had not one nice thing to say about rich people. Republicans reach out to the rich and bash the poor and sick.”
Funny, I don’t ever remember Jesus telling anybody to steal from others, give it to the poor, and call it charity. Do you have a reference?
The problem you continually have is you refuse to separate “needy” from “poor”. There is a huge difference and nobody has a problem helping the “needy”. Most of our “poor” people are poor because of their own choices and we’re tired of being taken advantage of by them and ripped off by people like you to feed them when you personally would never give them a dime of your own money. Start the “Democrats for the Poor” charity and see how many donations you get. Not many I would bet.
And which party was it that couldn’t even get half it’s convention goers to vote to put an allegiance to God back in their party platform and still to this day refuses to admit who took it out or why?
Stealing is a crime, DannyX, whether you do it or you enable somebody else to do it (the IRS). Does it make you feel better knowing you’re abetting that theft to make you feel like YOU did something for the “poor”?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
November 29th, 2012
4:55 pm
One can make 100K and do really well.
what’s your definition of “really well”?
On that kind of money one can live quite comfortably. Especially in the South.
Id say with that you could have a really nice sized house nice cars.
Send kids to private school and have some left over to put away.
GT
November 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
josef the same reason I give your mother respect or any older lady I have never metor help a small child, it is human decency. Gone with the wind are the days of respect and honor. Most of the right’s complaints have nothing to do with honor; they are absorbed in selfishness and greed. You should not serve in the halls of Congress if you have no more control of your emotions than a 10 year old child. You should not be allowed a leadership position if your one trick is disrespect. It took awhile for the public to understand clowns are not what are needed in this area. You got to love America; it can’t be fooled by fools.
Madge From Accounting
November 29th, 2012
4:57 pm
Not true. Gray Davis wanted to keep the extra money in the state’s coffers, the public wanted it back into their own hands. They started a massive drive to get Gray out and put someone in who’d do what they wanted. Hence Arnold. Arnold came in, did what the people wanted, and California damn near went bankrupt.
You’re supposed to save for a rainy day — not blow it all and hope for perpetual sunshine…………..
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
November 29th, 2012
4:57 pm
It’s amazing how the Republican party, home to the conservative Christian, worship the rich. It’s actually the anti-Jesus party now, Jesus reached out to the poor and the sick, and had not one nice thing to say about rich people. Republicans reach out to the rich and bash the poor and sick.
Right on the money.
Im often reminded of the story of the widow in the temple.
41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much. 42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing. 43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury: 44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
Most Christians talk the talk.
But they dont walk the walk.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 29th, 2012
4:59 pm
They started a massive drive to get Gray out and put someone in who’d do what they wanted.
“They” being Darrell “Car Thief” Issa.
JamVet
November 29th, 2012
4:59 pm
Stealing is indeed a crime.
While making up childish lies about stealing is merely pathetic…
josef
November 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
RB
Just being EOI, but who was the one being addressed with this from the Christ?
“And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.”
–Luke 23:43,
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
November 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
Most of our “poor” people are poor because of their own choices
HELL NO THEY ARE NOT.
NOBODY AND I MEAN NO ONE CHOOSES TO BE POOR YOU POMPOUS ASS.
THEY JUST DIDN’T HAVE EVERYTHING HANDED TO THEM LIKE THE LILY WHITE COUNTRY CLUB CROWD WHO NEVER WORKED AN HONEST DAY IN THEIR LIFE.
YET THEY WILL GLADLY TELL YOU HOW THEY WORK SOOO HARD AND POOR PEOPLE ARE LAZY
WHEN IN FACT THE EXACT OPPOSITE IS TRUE.