I come to note ‘Taxby,’ not to praise him
NOTE: This includes material published here earlier in blog posts and comments. It is posted here as the electronic version of today’s AJC column.
The last thing Saxby Chambliss needs right now is praise from some liberal. Not with his fellow conservatives already deriding him as “Taxby.” Not with a 2014 primary challenge looking more and more threatening.
So with that in mind, I’m going to resist the temptation to laud Georgia’s senior senator for saying that maybe, just maybe, the nation’s best interests will be served by a budget deal that both raises tax revenue and curtails projected spending.
Nor will I publicly applaud Chambliss for saying that when the time comes to cut a deal, he won’t feel bound by a pledge that he signed some 20 years ago to never raise taxes. Twenty years ago, a lot of things were different. Chipper Jones had yet to play a game in an Atlanta Braves uniform, “Wayne’s World” was the hot new Hollywood comedy, Bill Clinton was the governor of Arkansas and, most importantly, the federal debt was less than a quarter of what it is today.
Most of all, I won’t dwell on the fact that with a newly re-elected Democratic president, an expanded Democratic majority in the Senate and a shrunken GOP majority in the House, Republicans aren’t exactly in position to play “my way or the highway” on the budget. It might be emotionally satisfying to take that stance, but as a matter of political strategy and patriotism, it would be counterproductive.
I could make that point, but I won’t.
Instead, I’d like to point out some political realities to those on the right who seem so eager to try to “take out” Chambliss and use his scalp to frighten other conservatives who might wander a bit from the straight and narrow. Recent history says such lessons have a way of backfiring.
To some degree, the anger that is being directed at Chambliss is a sign of conservative confidence here in Georgia. While Mitt Romney lost to Barack Obama by four percentage points nationally, he carried Georgia by eight, which is a healthy margin. While demographic changes pose a long-term threat to GOP dominance, Romney’s performance suggests that in the short- to medium-term, Georgia will remain a red state. That all but guarantees that Chambliss would win in the 2014 general election.
Those who want to challenge Chambliss from the right take that argument a step farther. They believe that the GOP’s natural advantage in Georgia would allow them to hold Chambliss’ seat even if Chambliss himself is booted from the ballot. But that is far from certain. In fact, if Chambliss were to lose in the Georgia primary to somebody attacking him from the right, all bets would be off. The 2014 Senate seat then becomes winnable for the Democrats, particularly if they put up the right candidate. (And yes, given the depth of the Democratic bench, that’s a significant “if”.)
But look what happened elsewhere this year:
— In Indiana, longtime Sen. Richard Lugar lost in the Republican primary to a hard-core conservative who defined compromise as Democrats giving in to Republicans. Indiana Republicans told themselves that it didn’t matter, not in a state that Romney went on to win by 10 points, outperforming what he did here in Georgia.
The Democrats won the Indiana Senate seat by five points.
— Romney also carried Missouri by 10 points. Again, that should have been more than enough to ensure that the Republicans would win that state’s Senate seat. Again, they lost and lost badly. Their ultra-conservative candidate — an incumbent congressman — was beaten in that deep-red state by 15 percentage points.
— The most compelling example was perhaps North Dakota. Romney carried the state by 20 percentage points, yet the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate — again, an incumbent conservative congressman — nonetheless managed to lose the race for an open seat.
In those states and others, Republicans made the mistake of believing that they could safely pursue ideological purity without risking rejection at the ballot box, and Democrats were more than happy to teach them otherwise. If given the chance, I suspect Georgia Democrats would be more than happy to teach that lesson once again.
– Jay Bookman
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JohnnyReb
November 28th, 2012
9:31 am
Occupation – if you think Obama won the election on merit, you are off in a different universe. Just for fun, please tell us one new thing he put forward during the campaign that would fix the debt? You can’t, because he did not. His whole campaign was I need more time to do more of the same, and Romney is a bad guy.
There is also suspension of reality as to the outcome of the vote. Sure Barry had a big electoral college win, but got less than 51% of the popular vote.
No, he won the election because of the campaign tactics, not merit.
stands for decibels
November 28th, 2012
9:31 am
however, you want me to feel better because of an article written by Les Leopold? A liberals liberal?
I had never heard of the man before I saw that particular piece so I guess I’m a pretty lousy liberal.
In any case, it’s not the article itself, but rather the statistical analysis that I wanted you to look at. For example:
If Germany’s debt/GDP ratio is very similar to ours, why aren’t the Germans constantly playing chicken with one another trying solve their “debt crisis”? Could it be they are intelligent enough to realize they don’t have one?
Oscar
November 28th, 2012
9:32 am
I haven’t heard a good argument for why it needs more.
__________
Then you have not looked in depth at our budget. Defense, medicare, medicaid and social security account for 70 per ecnt of our budget. That’s ten per cent more than we take in.
If we eliminated everything else, we would still have to borrow money.
We need to make cuts and raise revenue both for the numbers to work.
straitroad
November 28th, 2012
9:34 am
eddy,
Kudos to you if you can get a honest, direct answer to your question on this board that isn’t filled with emotion and childish remarks.
DebbieDoRight - Go Ahead, Make My Day....Do You Feel Lucky?
November 28th, 2012
9:34 am
godless: (Could have had a firstie, but read the column instead.
That’s what you’re supposed to do godless! Whats the point of posting (FIRST!), if you don’t have anything to say afterwards?
SoCoBro: “Yeah, this is a story of a famous dog
For the dog that chases its tail will be dizzy.”
These are clapping dogs, rhythmic dogs Harmonic dogs, house dogs, street dogs
Dogs of the world unite!
Dancin’ dogs
Yeah, countin’ dogs, funky dogs…
Nasty dogs…
(Dog)
indigo: Saxby has not managed to get elected and re-elected all these years by being stupid
Debatable. He IS getting re-elected in Jawja. You know, the state that’s 48th outta 50th on the intelligence monitor?
AquaGirl: The Gay Agenda infiltrated the Hoveround factory and placed a self-destruct chip set for election day in every single wheelchair.
Girl — you need some holy water thrown on you!! I’m going to call Redneck Convert to see if he could get in contact with the right Rev. Jim Bob Bruice to see if he could set up an exorcism for you!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 28th, 2012
9:35 am
eddy, why bother explaining it to you. If you have not done your research and looked at all the available information, you are intentionally choosing to be ignorant. If you have kept up, then you just don’t want to accept any information other than your own position so no amount of explanation will “convince you”. Now if you have a specific question about a particular point, then be a responsible adult and post that question.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 28th, 2012
9:35 am
” Didn’t some party campaign on jobs a few years back.”
you misunderstood them … you heard jobs … they mean vagina.
curious
November 28th, 2012
9:35 am
A big reason our economy is lagging is; Uncertainity.
Until Congress (both parties) get serious and stop this gridlock, no rational business is going to make the investment necessary to get the economy rocking.
often, even a bad plan is better than no plan.
straitroad
November 28th, 2012
9:35 am
Oscar,
All of those items that you listed should be reduced until spending matches revenue. There is enough waste in each of them to be eliminated.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 28th, 2012
9:35 am
Johnny Reb
You are a commie!
How funny is that!
Oscar
November 28th, 2012
9:36 am
Welcome – The slippery slope argument. I get your point.
TaxPayer
November 28th, 2012
9:36 am
How much added revenue has been generated by the 2003 and 2005 Bush tax cuts to date? A ball park number will do. Just round it to the nearest trillion and don’t forget to include the appropriate sign in front of the result–a + sign for positive net added revenue or a – sign for negative net added revenue. Anyone? A link to an AEI document perhaps.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 28th, 2012
9:37 am
eddy: “Will someone please explain the purpose of taxing the top 1% more? We all know that it will NOT reduce the deficit nor will it fund the government’s daily operating expenses for more than a week. So, what is the purpose?”
It’s simple. See my 9:31.
It’s about sending a signal to capital that ever diminishing rates on its income growth is not inevitable.
It’s really very deceptively simple, but holds true perfectly if you think about it.
If that bubble-like sense of inevitability is pricked, then it is hard to predict what other demands will be made on capital, and it knows it. That’s why its minions in the Republican party will go to their political deaths to preserve the current rates, which are at laughably low rates historically.
Oscar
November 28th, 2012
9:38 am
straitroad – Don’t think the numbers support your statement. But, I already said that, so I should not repeat myself.
TaxPayer
November 28th, 2012
9:38 am
you misunderstood them … you heard jobs … they mean vagina.
I think you’re just probing for a witty response.
Mick
November 28th, 2012
9:38 am
reb
What new spending is obama proposing? Romney or ryans plan would have done nothing to tame the defict, probably made it worse with the tried and failed tax cuts as their main medicine.
No, we have to start somewhere and that is recouping lost revenue started by irresponsible tax cuts…
Brosephus™
November 28th, 2012
9:40 am
markie mark
I could care less abou tthe concept because nobody’s suggesting we tax the rich at 100% other than conservatives who bitch about that. My idea would be to gradually raise the rates back to where they were before Bush and his Congress hacked them. At the same time, I would cut spending back as the economy improves.
eddy
November 28th, 2012
9:41 am
To Keep Up the Good Fight…..I just posted a rather simple question. Please give a poor lost soul like me the courtesy of answering the question rather than obfuscating with your cute but pointless remarks.
Robert Reich couldn’t but I guess you are so well informed that you can as your post implies. Have at it…
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 28th, 2012
9:41 am
Heard Taxby on NPR interview this morning. He was asked straight up how raising the tax rate 1-3 percentage points on only the income above 250k for a 300k earning small business would result in that business laying off staff or not adding staff. The interviewer noted that an increase on the tax rate of the 50k above 250k from 36-39% would only result in an additional tax of a couple thousand dollars (1,500 to be exact).
Instead of answering the question, Taxby rambled on 2 talking points about tax reform, which would result in the same business owner paying more taxes, and growing the tax base. There was a hint of concession that his fictitious small business owner could afford to pay more taxes but he never did answer the question.
http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=166054190&m=166054228
stands for decibels
November 28th, 2012
9:42 am
No, we have to start somewhere and that is recouping lost revenue started by irresponsible tax cuts…
well no, we don’t. This is driving me slightly insane, I realize, but we DO. NOT. NEED. TO. SOLVE. THE. IMAGINARY. “DEBT CRISIS”. NOW.
We need to build stuff and get people to work and get them insured, first.
We need to get the economy growing at a decent rate.
And then we need to look at what we can afford to trim and who we can tax in a manner in which they’ll actually notice (and no, hitting up incomes above 250K at a teensy tiny increase is not something most people are going to really notice, so you WATB apologists for the ruling class know where you can stick your complaints. That tiny little tax hike might as well happen right now. It’s a nice little bit of change that we can put to use on stuff we’ve already committed to.)
Welcome to the Occupation
November 28th, 2012
9:42 am
JohnnyReb: “Occupation – if you think Obama won the election on merit, you are off in a different universe”
Logic, my friend. Logic. I never said anything at all about merit in Obama’s case, which I personally consider to be very shaky at best. I simply said your assertion doesn’t follow logically.
In our two-party system “merit” has at best only a passing significance in the matter of who wins in a contest between two parties who alternate in power ever 4 or 8 years.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 28th, 2012
9:46 am
No matter…Obama is going to be impeached soon for the coverup and lying!
Whatever gets you through the day.
Erwin's cat
November 28th, 2012
9:47 am
http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/11/08/cbo-joins-crs-in-finding-almost-no-economic-impact-from-letting-high-end-bush-era-tax-rates-expire/
letting the payroll tax cuts expire will cost 0.7% GDP and 800k jobs…so the CBO says…
Regnad Kcin
November 28th, 2012
9:48 am
“Tino Sanandaji is an affiliated researcher at the Institute of Industrial Economics and holds a PhD in public policy from the University of Chicago. Arvid Malm is chief economist of the Swedish Taxpayers’ Association and holds a master’s in economics from the Stockholm School of Economics.”
MM – you’re gonna believe folks from Europe and Chicago? I’m shocked, shocked…
Oscar
November 28th, 2012
9:48 am
Obama won because the voters judged him to be the most qualified of the two candidates. Simple as that.
Alex
November 28th, 2012
9:50 am
@ welcome, sure there will be people who will not change and so be it, just as there will be liberals who want to give up nothing. Can’t satisfy everybody. Remember there are a lot of people who did not vote, Hopefully they believe in compromise, let’s hope. Camel’s nose uner the tent, slippery slope, sure..But sometimes there are changes thsat are necessary…..
@ stands…yep this is a multivariate equation. RULING class: says get back to work…..
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 28th, 2012
9:51 am
Why is the GOP complaining about the President taking the issue to the people?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/28/1165281/-Poll-Strong-support-for-Obama-s-tax-plan-opposition-to-GOP-plan-to-cap-deductions-and-cut-Medicare
stands for decibels
November 28th, 2012
9:52 am
letting the payroll tax cuts expire will cost 0.7% GDP and 800k jobs…so the CBO says…
Not surprising–that is what you risk doing when you raise taxes on vast numbers of people who are already in challenging financial straits. The payroll tax hits everyone who works, after all.
Did you happen to read the rest of that piece?
Aquagirl
November 28th, 2012
9:52 am
No, he won the election because of the campaign tactics, not merit.
Just when you thought the cons had exhausted all available pouting points, they dig another one from their fertile imaginations.
Fascinating.
barking frog
November 28th, 2012
9:54 am
Regnad, markie
Tino could have just said ‘don’t raise taxes on job creators’ and
saved him some time typing and me some time reading.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 28th, 2012
9:54 am
“Just when you thought the cons had exhausted all available pouting points, they dig another one from their fertile imaginations.”
because evidently, there is a sliding scale of Presidency, depending on why people voted for you.
Erwin's cat
November 28th, 2012
9:55 am
Did you happen to read the rest of that piece?
yes, I wasn’t taking a jab at either side….
DebbieDoRight - Go Ahead, Make My Day....Do You Feel Lucky?
November 28th, 2012
9:55 am
Usink: you misunderstood them … you heard jobs … they meant vagina.
I am SO stealing that one from you. Sorry.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 28th, 2012
9:56 am
eddy: To Keep Up the Good Fight…..I just posted a rather simple question. Please give a poor lost soul like me the courtesy of answering the question rather than obfuscating with your cute but pointless remarks.
http://ctj.org can be your friend to overcome your ignorance
stands for decibels
November 28th, 2012
9:57 am
yes, I wasn’t taking a jab at either side….
I kinda thought not, just wondering.
In principle, I HATED the idea of stimulating the economy via a payroll tax cut. I want Americans to have literal buy-in to their FICA/Med; I think that’s worked as designed for nearly 70 years now. But having managed to get that wee bone to throw to the working class, I don’t like the idea of taking it away when unemployment is still as high as it is.
(if that makes any sense.)
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 28th, 2012
9:59 am
DDR – 9:55 – happy to share
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 28th, 2012
9:59 am
Well I see that DDR and USinUK are still progressing with their emasculating war on men.
Leave it to Beaver is now Leave it to Cleaver. 
Erwin's cat
November 28th, 2012
10:00 am
(if that makes any sense.)
I think I agree
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
November 28th, 2012
10:01 am
The final line for me to cross in complete alienation from the right was my recognition that Obama is not a leftist. In fact, he’s barely a liberal—and only because the political spectrum has moved so far to the right that moderate Republicans from the past are now considered hardcore leftists by right-wing standards today.
GOP economist Bruce Bartlett
TaxPayer
November 28th, 2012
10:02 am
I thought Beaver’s last name was Cleaver.
barking frog
November 28th, 2012
10:02 am
Keep 9:59
and the war on women has certainly uncovered the vagina power
in national politics…
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 28th, 2012
10:02 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 28th, 2012
9:59 am
That’s funny when you consider that his full name was Beaver Cleaver…Maybe the GOP should adopt it as theirs…
Doggone/GA
November 28th, 2012
10:04 am
“That’s funny when you consider that his full name was Beaver Cleaver…”
Actually, his name wasTheodore Cleaver. Beaver was his nickname
Regnad Kcin
November 28th, 2012
10:04 am
“My idea would be to gradually raise the rates back to where they were before Bush and his Congress hacked them. At the same time, I would cut spending back as the economy improves”
BRO – that makes so much sense, I have difficulty understanding why conservatives don’t agre…
stands for decibels
November 28th, 2012
10:04 am
Apropos nothing currently under discussion, I realize I am a horrible person for finding this funny.
Doggone/GA
November 28th, 2012
10:05 am
“I have difficulty understanding why conservatives don’t agre…”
It’s this: “raise rates” – that’s all they hear
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 28th, 2012
10:05 am
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
November 28th, 2012
10:01 am
I’ve always thought of president Obama as more of an “Eisenhower Republican” than a Liberal…
barking frog
November 28th, 2012
10:05 am
Taxby hopes you come to vote taxby, not to praise him.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 28th, 2012
10:05 am
“emasculating war on men”
look, all I want is autonomy over my reproductive rights, equal pay and the occasional use of the remote.
is that so much to ask?
barking frog
November 28th, 2012
10:07 am
USinUK
No remote.
Doggone/GA
November 28th, 2012
10:08 am
“Taxby hopes you come to vote taxby, not to praise him”
After hearing the interview on NPR this morning? Not a chance. He’s not “willing” to raise tax rates at all, though he’s open to raising “revenue” … but ONLY if there is “significant” entitlement changes
Alex
November 28th, 2012
10:08 am
Another opinion from the dismal science, next…Oh, Dr. Phil, welcome….
Lot’s of gynecologists today..stirrups, please…..
Oscar
November 28th, 2012
10:09 am
is that so much to ask?
_________
We better discuss what you mean by ocassional use of the remote. Sounds like going down a slippery slope to me.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
November 28th, 2012
10:09 am
Why is the GOP complaining about the President taking the issue to the people?
Because they’re idiots?
Morality?
November 28th, 2012
10:09 am
Obama is all MOUTH…… has no clue of how to deal with the upcoming Fed debt disaster. Backing off from the fiscal cliff is not about how much you can confiscate from the so called wealthy – it’s about how much will have to be CUT from Fed gub’ment SOCIALIST programs. I have offered to bet my house against Jay’s that the Nanny Pelosi and Hairy Weed led Obama administration will not have the Fed debt ONE cent lower at the end of Obama’s final term than it is today. Put up or shut up.
Doggone/GA
November 28th, 2012
10:10 am
“Because they’re idiots?”
More likely because they’re afraid they’ll hear back from their consitutents…wanting to know why those ideas can’t be done.
Aquagirl
November 28th, 2012
10:10 am
look, all I want is autonomy over my reproductive rights, equal pay and the occasional use of the remote.
In other words, total emasculation.
Doggone/GA
November 28th, 2012
10:11 am
“has no clue of how to deal with the upcoming Fed debt disaster”
Sure he does. Just because you don’t agree with him doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a clue. He just has DIFFERENT clues.
barking frog
November 28th, 2012
10:11 am
Doggone/GA
I think that’s going to be the position of most Republicans
agreeing to a tax increase.
Dirty Dawg
November 28th, 2012
10:11 am
If I win the PowerBall I’m gonna find me a bright, articulate, informed, progressive, man or woman, to run for Max Cleland’s old Senate seat…too bad Max won’t run again cause he’d be a shoo-in. Of course I’ll probably have to take the Secretary of State’s office to court to make sure those Diebold-made voting machines don’t ’steal it again’ – or better yet, bribe em to ‘flip it’ for my candidate. The 2014 election will make it twelve years since the Repubs stole this one and the Guv’s office…that ought to give us more than ample enough examples of malfeasance and idiocy to if not indict then run em out of office. Of course I’ll have to take the full amount, cause the ‘cash option’ won’t be enough to pry this state loose from the grip of the Tea-Party Neanderthals…but it will have been worth it.
Morality?
November 28th, 2012
10:12 am
Are you calling the people idiots? You are one of the people.
godless heathen
November 28th, 2012
10:12 am
At the same time, I would cut spending back as the economy improves.
Trouble is, that never happens. When the economy is rocking, revenues for the gov are up and for the pols, it’s “Let the Good Times Roll, Baby!”. Time to buy votes and institute programs. Programs that can’t be cut when the economy falters and revenues are down.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 28th, 2012
10:12 am
DDR
A short and effective answer…..
Doggone/GA
November 28th, 2012
10:13 am
“think that’s going to be the position of most Republicans agreeing to a tax increase”
And I don’t think they’re going to agree to a tax increase at all, unless forced to it. They’re going to ride the “close loopholes” hobbyhorse into the ground and then blame the Democrats because they won’t “compromise” by doing ONLY what the R’s want done.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 28th, 2012
10:14 am
“Beaver Cleaver” will soon be the Rushbo code word of the day. It just shows the violent intent of these women who have failed to remember their place in the Fox world. Equal pay for USinUK? I am sure the conned are for that if it means lowering pay rates down to the level for women for the workers.
Do they even know how to use the remote? You have to be ready to flip as soon as the commercial comes on. I am not sure that their thumbs can handle that much responsibility.
Donovan
November 28th, 2012
10:14 am
My God! You sound like an intoxicated lottery winner and an over confident liberal orator. Not very classy and not very cool. Too proud to plant a kiss on Chambliss, but proud enough to praise his retraction of principles.
Sen. Chambliss rode into Washington almost two decades ago on a no-new-tax horse and subsequently joined the dark side as a big spender and ultimate tax advocate. Typical of a politician who enjoys the power of the senate, he would rather break ranks with the GOP than lose his job. This is the Arlan Spector syndrome. Yes, his turn-coat philosophy may cost him his job.
If you think that paying taxes is a patriotic thing to do then I can consider myself George Washington for all the years of carrying the “middle class” on my back. This idea of income redistribution is your idea, not mine. This class warfare on the wealthy is immoral and discriminatory. The Bush tax cuts also lowered the middle class income taxes, not only the wealthy, and virtually eliminated the lower class income taxes. Now that you Democrats have screwed the pooch once more with your reckless spending, those lowered taxes on the middle class are endanger of being lost. You people should be praising Pres. Bush for what he did for the middle class. But no, you want it both ways. Leave the “middle class” alone because you have scripted them as the “only” ones who work and you only want to tax the “rich” because they are the favorite whipping boys. Low character assassination.
Tell you what…let’s all hold hands and jump together over the fiscal cliff. That way we can all share in the sacrifice. Ok?
Morality?
November 28th, 2012
10:15 am
progressive = another word for socialist?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 28th, 2012
10:15 am
“USinUK
No remote.”
Hubby? is that you???
“In other words, total emasculation.”
evidently so.
godless heathen
November 28th, 2012
10:15 am
Women already have more than half of the money and all of the p****, but
WE WILL NOT SURRENDER THE REMOTE!
skipper
November 28th, 2012
10:16 am
A shining example (again) of the too-far left Dems and too-far right Repubs……common frickin’ sense gets thrown out the window! Now, both parties require pretty-much extreme views for support, and the rsult is the perpetual “stalemate.” No Ralph Nader or Cynthia McKinny loonie types, but a REAL third party led by someone with walking-around sense seems appealing right now!
Alex
November 28th, 2012
10:16 am
oh, give her the remote, Hardball is on…..
Oscar
November 28th, 2012
10:17 am
Tell you what…let’s all hold hands and jump together over the fiscal cliff. That way we can all share in the sacrifice. Ok?
______
Better be prepared for that, just in case in happens. There is a good chance that it will.
Nero
November 28th, 2012
10:17 am
The leeches are already starting to balk at spending cuts. Already overplaying their hand. Durbin can’t control them! Haha!!! Get ready. Here it comes. Embrace the cliff.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
November 28th, 2012
10:18 am
and the war on women has certainly uncovered the vagina power
in national politics…
The best thing that the Conned did was to wake up every woman in the US and let them hear for themselves, how freaking crazy they really were.
Legitimate rape?
Mother’s life in danger? So what — she’s having the baby anyway?
Rape is a “blessing”?
Oh yeah — the really effed up by allowing their views to pop out of their mouths like a jack in a box. Once out, they couldn’t put that joker back in.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 28th, 2012
10:18 am
“progressive = another word for socialist?”
no.
this has been another edition of simple answers for stupid-ass questions.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 28th, 2012
10:19 am
Uh oh, USinUK has discovered something even more important for men to control than a vagina.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 28th, 2012
10:20 am
DDR – one of my other favorites was from an interview with one of the defeated – evidently pregnancy as a result of rape is the same thing as just regular ol’ getting knocked up from premarital sex.
clem
November 28th, 2012
10:22 am
recent poll revealed lots of folks don’t understand marginal tax rates. under obama plan, everyone retains same tax cuts up to $250,000 (couples after deductions, exemptions etc.). %wise they don’t get same tax cut, just absolute dollars. historically marginal tax rates were much higher as folks understood & agreed that there needs to be some progressiveness to structure. if rich corporate types complain, how about rank and file get same % pay/bennies increase as they do.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 28th, 2012
10:22 am
“Women already have more than half of the money and all of the p****, but
WE WILL NOT SURRENDER THE REMOTE!”
the line in the sand has definitely been drawn.
tiredofIT
November 28th, 2012
10:22 am
Morality?
November 28th, 2012
10:12 am
Are you calling the people idiots? You are one of the people.
++
Some say that is debatable.
stands for decibels
November 28th, 2012
10:22 am
confiscate from the so called wealthy
so much stupid in one little sentence fragment.
barking frog
November 28th, 2012
10:23 am
DDR
When the Congress is 50% or more women and a woman is in the
oval office we can look back and say that the GOP started this.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 28th, 2012
10:24 am
Nero: “The leeches are already starting to balk at spending cuts.”
No sh$t. The Republicans and their hangers-on in the defense industry were making lots of noises about about defense cuts to their ass fat during the election.
Aquagirl
November 28th, 2012
10:24 am
pregnancy as a result of rape is the same thing as just regular ol’ getting knocked up from premarital sex
Of course. If her uterus didn’t deploy automatic countermeasures she obviously wanted the sexytime from that alleged rapist.
tiredofIT
November 28th, 2012
10:25 am
The GOP just doesn’t get it?
House GOP Committee Chairs Will All Be White Men In Next Congress
Soothsayer
November 28th, 2012
10:27 am
Some days you just feel this way! I guarantee you’ll get a real kick out of this! Watch now.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
November 28th, 2012
10:27 am
Donovan @ 10:14
Now that you Democrats have screwed the pooch once more with your reckless spending, those lowered taxes on the middle class
Really, do you not recall the 2 wars the were unfunded, let alone the bribery of Medicare Plan for drugs which was also unfunded?????
That takes some world class ignornace right there
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 28th, 2012
10:29 am
Well, there’s alot to be said for Separate but Equal when it comes to remotes. Me, I jumped on the problem lickety-split when I got the 60″ flatscreen. I figured I could get a 32″ to put in the kitchen and that way the missus could have her own remote. Now, she stays in there happy as a clam and when stuff like news comes on that’s over the head of women she just cooks. There’s always a pie or cake around and I never have to share my remote. I hope I’ve give USinUK and DebbieDoesEverybody a idea for keeping peace in the family.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 28th, 2012
10:32 am
“If her uterus didn’t deploy automatic countermeasures ”
just had a mental image of a bunch of mini uterine marines repelling the rapey-sperm
sorta like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2quc-iQ96R0
Nero
November 28th, 2012
10:32 am
Occupation,
They lost. Defense cuts are coming. It’s gonna be a wonderful blood letting. Durbin and Reid can’t herd the leeches fast enough. Obama’s loyal supports are going to scuttle any deal. Sequestration is coming. Haha!!! Can you hear it’s footsteps?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
November 28th, 2012
10:33 am
Do they even know how to use the remote? You have to be ready to flip as soon as the commercial comes on. I am not sure that their thumbs can handle that much responsibility.
Oh keep — If i didn’t love ya so much, I would’ve given you the finger!
http://media.beta.photobucket.com/user/meggie-peggie/media/kid-middle-finger.jpg.html?filtersterm=middle%20finger&filtersprimary=images&sort=1&o=49
Oscar
November 28th, 2012
10:33 am
Today the remote. Tomorrow the lazy boy. Where will it all end?
straitroad
November 28th, 2012
10:34 am
Yahoo has an interesting article on the best and worst-run states that could provide case studies for our federal govt on how to function. The best – ND, WY, NE, UT and IA. The worst – CA, RI, IL, AZ, and NJ. The common difference is fiscal discipline or lack thereof.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-best-and-worst-run-states-in-america-150415625.html
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 28th, 2012
10:35 am
“Read my lips. No new taxes !”
Aquagirl
November 28th, 2012
10:36 am
I figured I could get a 32″ to put in the kitchen and that way the missus could have her own remote
A real man never surrenders ANY remote. So don’t cry to us when some gay guy busts down your door with a preacher in tow and you’re gay married before you know what hit you.
Brosephus™
November 28th, 2012
10:36 am
BRO – that makes so much sense, I have difficulty understanding why conservatives don’t agre…
Because it makes sense… if that helps.
TaxPayer
November 28th, 2012
10:37 am
“Read my lips. No new taxes !”
But you can have the old ones back.
stands for decibels
November 28th, 2012
10:39 am
Oh goodie. Scout is here to tell us how all your vaginas are belong to him because Vietnam draft.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 28th, 2012
10:39 am
“ND, WY, NE, UT and IA”
of course they’re the best.
no one lives there.
seriously – all together, they have only slightly more than the population of New York City
I mean, when Utah is the most populace of the list (at an eye-watering 3M), then I think you need to take another look at your comparisons.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 28th, 2012
10:40 am
dB – “Oh goodie. Scout is here to tell us how all your vaginas are belong to him because Vietnam draft.”
forget that … i’m more interested in hearing why women can’t have leadership positions in congress because of the draft.