The Benghazi narrative spun by Fox now in ruins

For at least a few conservatives, Election Night opened eyes about the danger of confining yourself to the right-wing information echo chamber. Because out here in the real world, as opposed to ConservaWorld, it turned out that the polls weren’t skewed, Mitt Romney wasn’t surging and a majority of the American people really did want to re-elect Barack Obama as their president.

Those who had relied on Fox “News” for their information were prepared for none of that.

To my mind, though, the utter collapse of the Fox narrative regarding the attacks on our consulate in Benghazi should be at least as instructive for those who are willing to see things as they are, rather than how they wish them to be. For more than two months, the network and those in Washington who follow its lead tried to create a firestorm of controversy regarding Benghazi, but time and again, as facts came to light, each right-wing claim about Benghazi was exposed as false and inflammatory.

Let’s review the litany, shall we?

“It never would have happened if consulate security had been bolstered as requested!”

No feasible level of consulate security could have saved the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team against an assault by 50 to 100 armed attackers.

“This only happened because under Obama, nobody is afraid of us anymore!” As Charles Krauthammer slickly phrased the argument on Fox, “these are the fruits of apology and retreat and lack of confidence in our own principles.”

Under President Bush, seven U.S. consulates or embassies were attacked, including those in Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia and Syria, with considerable loss of life. But unlike Benghazi, none of those attacks became the pretext for crass partisanship.

“They refused to bring in the AC-130 gunships that could have saved the ambassador.”

The closest AC-130 was 2,500 miles away, in Afghanistan.

“They had Special Forces units sitting there in Italy ready to intervene but instead the cowards just watched our people die!”

The Special Forces units in question did not arrive in Italy until several hours after the attacks had ended, and were never in position to have played a role.

“UN Ambassador Susan Rice lied to the American people, and by doing so disqualified herself from consideration to become secretary of State.”

Rice accurately communicated to the American people the best, most current information as assembled by our intelligence community. There is no evidence that the intel assessment was altered for partisan political reasons, and former CIA Director David Petraeus and current Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper have informed Congress of that fact.

However, the best indication of how completely the Fox narrative has collapsed comes from recent events on Capitol Hill. Sen. John McCain, who had heatedly pledged that “I will do everything in my power to block (Rice) from being the United States’ secretary of State,” has backed off that pledge and in fact is meeting with Rice today. Sen. Lindsey Graham, who had charged that Rice had disqualified herself from consideration, has also changed his tone and is also meeting with Rice today.

Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had earlier accused Rice of lying and said she would not be a “fitting replacement” for Hillary Clinton at State. Yesterday, Inhofe acknowledged that “I’m not at all convinced of that now.”

Those men may yet decide to vote against Rice, should she indeed be nominated by the president. But they appear to understand that they allowed their partisanship and anger to cloud their judgment, which is why they’re now moonwalking things back as quietly as possible.

In addition, State Department and congressional investigations into the Benghazi tragedy are still under way and may yet produce lessons into how such setbacks can be avoided in the future. That again is how it ought to be: When mistakes are made, you try to learn from them and get smarter, so you don’t repeat those mistakes the next time.

Right?

– Jay Bookman

579 comments Add your comment

Midori

November 27th, 2012
9:35 am

First??? :)

Hi Jay :)

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
9:36 am

there are none so blind as those who watch FOX news …

mm

November 27th, 2012
9:37 am

My wife had jury duty yesterday and one of the courthouse workers turned on the TV in the jury pool room. She turned it to Fox News. Several people, including my wife, complained. The TV was changed to ESPN.

TaxPayer

November 27th, 2012
9:37 am

Was Inhofe recanting from the safety of his portable Igloo. Inquiring minds.

mbtc

November 27th, 2012
9:37 am

Ahhhh…… the clean feeling of new sheets

Janney

November 27th, 2012
9:38 am

You would think the noise-makers would learn from them, but I have my doubts. Nice article, Jay

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
9:38 am

dammit, Midori!! pipped me to the post.

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
9:39 am

The Benghazi narrative spun by Fox now in ruins

Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground

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[for extra credit--anyone here know, without googling, what the "flying machine" referred to in that tune?]

saywhat?

November 27th, 2012
9:40 am

But I’m convinced FOX News has learned its lesson, and NEXT time their reporting and commentary will be accurate. I can FEEL it.

Janney

November 27th, 2012
9:40 am

I have begun to complain about Fox News being on in public spaces, also mm. That’s what needs to be done.

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
9:43 am

Those who had relied on Fox “News”

Bunny-ear quotes? Why Jay. How shrill.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
9:43 am

saywhat – :lol: clap if you believe!!

Tom Middleton

November 27th, 2012
9:43 am

sfd

James Taylor’s rock band.

mm

November 27th, 2012
9:43 am

These Fox News watchers think everyone else is as stupid as they are. Fox News has poisoned our politics and our electorate.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
9:44 am

mm — “My wife had jury duty yesterday and one of the courthouse workers turned on the TV in the jury pool room. She turned it to Fox News. Several people, including my wife, complained. The TV was changed to ESPN.”

Let me guess; the defense attorneys had your wife and the other complainers struck from the jury pool for not being credulous enough. :D

Aquagirl

November 27th, 2012
9:44 am

The closest AC-130 was 2,500 miles away, in Afghanistan.

Oh Jay, our Armchair Generals keep tabs of all available military assets at all times. Just ask them.

The aged base of the right-wing is apparent when you have these fools running around screaming junk from forwarded e-mails and crap websites. They have no internet filter on their brains, post any crap electronically and they line up with spoons in hand.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 27th, 2012
9:45 am

Mistakes? Mistakes? The GOP don’t make no stinking mistakes! They ARE the mistake… ;)

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
9:46 am

James Taylor’s rock band.

yep.

Welcome to the Occupation

November 27th, 2012
9:46 am

For at least a few conservatives, Election Night opened eyes about the danger of confining yourself to the right-wing information echo chamber

But you’re risking creating an echo chamber of your own here by focusing your entire attention to the zaniness and extremism of the right wing and failing to pay equal attention to the ways that this very nuttiness betrays a lack of a real political opposition that is rooted in struggle and an ideological vision of where to take the country.

The Democrats are really no less the victims of their own spin and “echo chamber” effects.

Tom Middleton

November 27th, 2012
9:47 am

sfd

When that song was popular and such a hit, we learned the history.

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
9:48 am

our Armchair Generals keep tabs of all available military assets

No, but they are keenly aware of all internet traditions.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
9:48 am

“Oh Jay, our Armchair Generals keep tabs of all available military assets at all times. Just ask them.”

they’re the ones who don’t seem to realize that Tony Stark is a fictional character

which reminds me of this:

http://thescruffynerdherder.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/20120331-105600.jpg

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
9:48 am

Aquagirl — “Oh Jay, our Armchair Generals keep tabs of all available military assets at all times. Just ask them.”

It has been pointed out here that the 105mm cannon and 40mm AGLs aboard an AC-130 are generally not a good idea in suburban neighborhoods, which is where the consulate was located.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 27th, 2012
9:48 am

One can only hope.

Midori

November 27th, 2012
9:49 am

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
9:49 am

welcome back, stranger!! good to see you again :-)

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
9:50 am

Tom, yeah, my older sibs were such JT fans I remember they actually bought an album that was a re-issue of the Flying Machine’s c. 1967 material.

Fake News Appeals to Fake People...Duh!

November 27th, 2012
9:52 am

AINT YOU TIRED REPUBLICANS?

Tom Middleton

November 27th, 2012
9:52 am

sfd
Heard the album? I’m impressed!!

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 27th, 2012
9:52 am

Hey there Midori,
Yes you really do know me…Do you play the violin?

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 27th, 2012
9:52 am

AH

snowing in Pittsburgh wish you were here LOL

FOX is the joke that the cons just don’t get

:-)

Ronald Reagan Parkway

November 27th, 2012
9:53 am

John McCain lost all credibility when he chose Sarah Palin and his VP in 2008. He comes off as being a bitter old timer that needs to retire. He can not be trusted with any analytical facts….

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj497/Libprog/311389_248873191907817_1636631853_n.jpg

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
9:53 am

UnU, I’m fearful that the delightful Sound of Music number about the lonely goatherd, high on a hill, will now be displaced by the scruffy variety.

indigo

November 27th, 2012
9:53 am

Libya has given us only a small amount of co-operation in this matter. It’s still not exactly clear what happened.

There’s not much difference between a crazed Muslim street mob and crazed Muslim terrorists, even though most cons here just won’t admit it. To make matters worse, conservative politicians tried to make a political mountain out of this molehill, completely disregarding the feelings of family members of the slain.

Pandering to the lowest dirt common denominator has come back to bite the Republicans.

Ronald Reagan Parkway

November 27th, 2012
9:54 am

Sarah Palin and his

correction..

Sarah Palin AS his

Adam

November 27th, 2012
9:54 am

I want to know what happens when the CIA dude, Susan Rice, and John McCain have their private meeting. I can only imagine it’s to tell John McCain to shut the hell up and get with the program.

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
9:55 am

For at least a few conservatives, Election Night opened eyes about the danger of confining yourself to the right-wing information echo chamber. Because out here in the real world, as opposed to ConservaWorld, it turned out that the polls weren’t skewed, Mitt Romney wasn’t surging and a majority of the American people really did want to re-elect Barack Obama as their president.

I offer one Bruce Bartlett as proof that there are Conservatives who live in the real world…

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/revenge-of-the-reality-based-community/

which is why they’re now moonwalking things back as quietly as possible.

That made me laugh hard!!!!

Butch Cassidy (I)

November 27th, 2012
9:55 am

Hey, as long as FOX is pushing the blame game, has anyone pointed out that Obama has the Nuclear Strike Codes and could have easily atomized Benghazi to protect the ambassador? No? I demand a congrerssional review!!!! ;)

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
9:55 am

Heard the album?

Yes, some (mumble-cough) years ago. I’m sure Youtube’s got it, though.

All I remember is something called “Knockin’ ‘Round the Zoo,” about his time in a mental institution.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
9:55 am

“John McCain lost all credibility when he chose Sarah Palin and his VP in 2008″

meh.

he lost all respectability when he made fun of Chelsea Clinton in the early 1990s.

Aquagirl

November 27th, 2012
9:56 am

the 105mm cannon and 40mm AGLs aboard an AC-130 are generally not a good idea in suburban neighborhoods

Clearly you are using the wrong movies as your source of information. I bet they didn’t even have Chuck Norris or another appropriately godly ‘Merican Fighting Man.

Hey Midori! :)

East Lake Ira

November 27th, 2012
9:56 am

I fear we have several more rounds of crazy still to come on this or Petraus… see Kay Bailey Hutchinson intimating the President hid the affair data or some such nonsense…

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/25/barney-frank-confronts-hutchinson-for-weasel-words-linking-obama-to-petraeus-scandal/

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 27th, 2012
9:56 am

Corbin

You Ain’t Normal :-)

USinUK

Your Cheez from earlier shows you are from the South. Kissin brother and sister yep :-)

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 27th, 2012
9:56 am

oe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
9:48 am

In the first posts of this Benghazi thing, I pointed out that a Spectre was like a shotgun in a hall way, but was told they were laser guided and no civilian would be hurt. Then they said no civilian would be near a fire fight…but since we know that terrorists like to use civilians as body armor that argument didn’t wash either.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
9:56 am

“will now be displaced by the scruffy variety.”

:lol:

his yodeling is raspy and phlegmy due to too much booze and a 2-pack a day habit.

clem

November 27th, 2012
9:57 am

truth is most of the conservative bloggers here are about as bright as most of the folks reading scripts on Faux…..doocheybag and killroy. what a pair

curious

November 27th, 2012
9:57 am

Why didn’t we use a Cruise missile?

The 4 were probably already dead, but even if they weren’t, we would at least shown those rag heads who’s boss.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
9:58 am

“Kay Bailey Hutchinson intimating the President hid the affair data or some such nonsense”

ohsweetjeebus, Barney Franks took her DOWNTOWN during that interview.

talk about wishing you had popcorn!

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 27th, 2012
9:58 am

Well, at least Fox News was trying to get at the Truth. Which is more than I can say for the lyin’ librul media. And you got to give Fox credit—there’s nothing like getting a mad on to get the blood flowing and the hackles up.

Anyhow, it all sounded about right at the time. It fit right in with the way we was thinking.

Have a good Tuesday everybody.

Adam

November 27th, 2012
9:59 am

Brosephus: I am a big fan of Bruce Bartlett. Did you know conservative outlets are working overtime to discredit even that piece you shared? “He wasn’t banned!”

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
9:59 am

“we would at least shown those rag heads who’s boss.”

:shock:

words fail.

They BOTH suck

November 27th, 2012
9:59 am

“But they appear to understand that they allowed their partisanship and anger to cloud their judgment, which is why they’re now moonwalking things back as quietly as possible.”

Plus the election is over and with more allegations than substance they eventually have to show something or start working on more productive issues; like “what is being done to mitigate these type tragedies in the future?”.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
10:00 am

Aquagirl — “Clearly you are using the wrong movies as your source of information. I bet they didn’t even have Chuck Norris or another appropriately godly ‘Merican Fighting Man.”

Come now; surely you recognize that such an amount of weaponry will transform *anyone* into a “g*dd*mn*d sexual Tyrannosaurus.” :D

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
10:00 am

There’s not much difference between a crazed Muslim street mob and crazed Muslim terrorists

indigo, I’ve actually tried in recent weeks to have calm, rational discussions with actual conservatives here, about what flippin’ difference it would’ve made to Obama’s re-election prospects if it were, in fact, “merely” the entire Islamic world apparently erupting in violent protests against an offensive film. I really was not trying to do this for the “gotcha” value; I really was trying to figure out what rationale the Administration could possibly have, in this scenario, to concoct such a story.

You can imagine the pretzel twists I encountered as the few souls who were willing to address this inquiry responded.

Lord Help Us

November 27th, 2012
10:01 am

Jay, you left off some of my fave Benghazi hits…

Stevens was sodomized…
Obama watched and did nothing while our citizens were killed…
Obama LIED and people DIED…

The kooks went off the deep end with this one. But, do not despair, they will fall for the same stuff again soon…

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
10:01 am

“Come now; surely you recognize that such an amount of weaponry will transform *anyone* into a “g*dd*mn*d sexual Tyrannosaurus.” :D

do you guys have the series “Strike Back” there?? perfect example of that ^^^^

Tom Middleton

November 27th, 2012
10:01 am

sfd

Isn’t the institution where JT met the girl who committed suicide? Like Ray Charles and so many others, he was into heroin.

Jefferson

November 27th, 2012
10:02 am

Alcoholics like bars, grumpy old people like fox as they tell them what they want to hear.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
10:02 am

curious — “The 4 were probably already dead, but even if they weren’t, we would at least shown those rag heads who’s boss.”

How about we give you a K-Bar, a Colt and a plane ticket so you can go show us how it’s done, Cowboy?

Mara

November 27th, 2012
10:04 am

Did you just use Fox News and “truth” in the same sentence?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
10:04 am

I pointed out that a Spectre was like a shotgun in a hall way, but was told they were laser guided and no civilian would be hurt.

Somebody actually said that???? I think they bought into Hollywood’s version of Spooky. Damn Transformer’s Movie!!!!

:lol:

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
10:04 am

curious

November 27th, 2012
10:05 am

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
10:02 am
curious — “The 4 were probably already dead, but even if they weren’t, we would at least shown those rag heads who’s boss.”

“How about we give you a K-Bar, a Colt and a plane ticket so you can go show us how it’s done, Cowboy?”

Joe,
Apparently you can’t recognize tongue-in-cheek.

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
10:06 am

Adam

I’ve become a reader of his work. I can’t deal with the close-minded conservatives. I remember Bartlett when he was in office, and for him to say what he does means a great deal. He’s no RINO at all, by any stretch of the imagination. Trying to discredit him only proves his point on that echo chamber.

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
10:06 am

Why didn’t we use a Cruise missile?

if you meant dropping Tom Cruise from a great height just because I’d be ok with that.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
10:08 am

Curious — “Joe, Apparently you can’t recognize tongue-in-cheek.”

Apparently neither can *you.* :D

bill euless

November 27th, 2012
10:08 am

Sounds like what you are saying is that the white house sopin that it was a protest over a movie trailer is false.

Doggone/GA

November 27th, 2012
10:09 am

“Apparently you can’t recognize tongue-in-cheek”

and maybe you aren’t as good at is as you think.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
10:10 am

dB – this was a little more of what I had in mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KP9PNSUME4

lady – odel – lady – odel lay – hoo hoo

Ronald Reagan

November 27th, 2012
10:10 am

Perhaps this Liberal writer had too many days off for Thanksgiving. Benghazi is alive & well until the mourning family gets answers.

East Lake Ira

November 27th, 2012
10:10 am

Where’s the home grown crazy?

I was hoping for some spittle and froth.

Peter Combs

November 27th, 2012
10:10 am

The attacks on other Embassy’s mentioned in the article were as follows:

2002: U.S. Consulate In Karachi, Pakistan, Attacked; 10 Killed, 51 Injured. From a June 15, 2002, Chicago Tribune article: CAR Bomb only outside gates, no Americans killed.

2004: U.S. Embassy Bombed In Uzbekistan. From a July 31, 2004, Los Angeles Times article: Suicide Bomber, no ground assault, no Americans killed

2004: Gunmen Stormed U.S. Consulate In Saudi Arabia. From a December 6, 2004, New York Times article: Attackers repelled by security, 3 Gunmen killed no Americans killed.

2006: Armed Men Attacked U.S. Embassy In Syria. From a September 13, 2006, Washington Post article: one guard killed, assault lasted 20 minutes. attackers repelled, all three gunmen killed. No Americans injured.

2007: Grenade Launched Into U.S. Embassy In Athens. From The New York Times: Building empty an RPG was fired, no injury’s, no ground assault, no Americans killed.

2008: Rioters Set Fire To U.S. Embassy In Serbia. From The New York Times: Embassy empty. No injuries.

2008: Ten People Killed In Bombings At U.S. Embassy In Yemen. From The New York Times: Two Car Bombs, no ground assault. No Americans killed.

Most of the aforementioned assaults were either single explosion car bombs or suicide bombers or a couple of armed men who were quickly killed. No Americans were killed.

As for the comment that additional security would not have saved the Ambassador is an odd assertion. Three Ex-navy Seals held them all off for 6 hours, saving dozens of personnel. Another 30 trained Ex Seals might have easily repelled them.

General Ham was able and prepared to stage a rescue and was removed from his position during the attack as AFRICOM commander by Leon Panetta.

godless heathen

November 27th, 2012
10:11 am

Damned right wing nuts:

Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Sunday that she has initiated a review of talking points used by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice on the attack on the American diplomatic facility in Libya, with the goal of determining why the public comments appeared to conflict with the initial assessment of U.S. intelligence sources.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
10:11 am

” Apparently you can’t recognize tongue-in-cheek.”

ah, yes … the “I was keeeeeeding” gambit … eees joke, no?

no.

Commonscents

November 27th, 2012
10:11 am

come on you guys, without Fox News and The Blaze….I can’t be entertained by breaking news of The New Black Panthers getting guns from Fast and Furious to assist Taliban in the Benghazi attacks to cover up details of Obama’s muslim Kenyan birth certificate”.

tm

November 27th, 2012
10:12 am

and the guy who made the movie is still in jail

curious

November 27th, 2012
10:12 am

Doggone/GA

November 27th, 2012
10:09 am
“Apparently you can’t recognize tongue-in-cheek”

“and maybe you aren’t as good at is as you think”

You’re right. I thought it was a pretty poke at all those who think we have men and machine poised to strike at a moments notice anywhere in the world.

Mr Right

November 27th, 2012
10:13 am

Rice accurately communicated to the American people the best, most current information as assembled by our intelligence community. There is no evidence that the intel assessment was altered for partisan political reasons, and former CIA Director David Petraeus and current Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper have informed Congress of that fact.

Not true!

Doggone/GA

November 27th, 2012
10:13 am

“and the guy who made the movie is still in jail”

but not for making the movie

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
10:14 am

“Not true!”

yay!!! I’ll play.

what’s not true?

alex

November 27th, 2012
10:14 am

the first casuality of war is the truth.. perhaps we have lost respect and before we were just hated..now we are hated and disrespected–an opinion …

Either way , I’ll wait for the book..or I could get the Bookman OPINION or Fox OPINION….I’ll wait….

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
10:15 am

USinUK — “ah, yes … the “I was keeeeeeding” gambit … eees joke, no?”

He’s a big man when he’s got a cruise missile and an ocean or two between him an the bad guys. Up close, not so much.

Jeffrey

November 27th, 2012
10:15 am

I won $100 off my fox news watching aunt on the outcome of the election. The day before the election I told her when she pays me she should sue fox news for lying to her.

I won a bottle of bourbon from my moderate friend on the outcome of the election. A few days after the election he came over to pay up. The first thing he said was man those people on fox are liars.

Nuff

Bizarre GOP Thanksgiving Pics Make America Ask, ‘What’s wrong with these people?’

November 27th, 2012
10:15 am

First John McCain’s wife posted a picture to Twitter in which there appears to be some kind of puppet/fake man/ghost hiding in a tree behind the Senator as he prepares to fry the turkey, and then today Mitt Romney posted a bizarre photo on Facebook from their family Thanksgiving in which a shiveled looking Mitt is leaning on an allegedly cooking Ann Romney.
Just odd.
These people are odd.
Check it out. John McCain’s Thanksgiving photo, as posted by BuzzFeed’s Andrew Kaczynski (who, we assume, added the yellow box around the tree creature):

http://www.politicususa.com/bizarre-republican-thanksgiving-pics-mccain-romney.html

Mr Right

November 27th, 2012
10:16 am

O K, folks move on, there’s nothing to see here! Only four dead Americans!

Jeffrey

November 27th, 2012
10:16 am

Oscar

November 27th, 2012
10:17 am

So far there is no story here. No conspiracy, no cover up, nothing to hide.

Real American

November 27th, 2012
10:18 am

mm @9:37 – that is hilarious! Everybody said they would rather watch Skip Bayless bloviate than watch the complete horror of Faux News. LOL

Aquagirl

November 27th, 2012
10:19 am

I was hoping for some spittle and froth.

It’s over at the the Buzz blog. Delusional lickspittle everywhere, what a mess.

Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 27th, 2012
10:20 am

townhall.com has a benghazi story right up at the top today….

teh stoopid…..

Butch Cassidy (I)

November 27th, 2012
10:20 am

Mr. Right – “O K, folks move on, there’s nothing to see here! Only four dead Americans!”

OK folks, move on, theres nothing to see here! Only four thousand dead Americans!

-Mr Right on the invasion of Iraq-

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 27th, 2012
10:21 am

OK, I don’t get it…who is Lady Odel and why do you want her to lay?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
10:22 am

Jay – you going to the MuckRack meet-up tonight??? if you do and meet Natan, tell him you know me :-)

Welcome to the Occupation

November 27th, 2012
10:22 am

More than ever I’m beginning to believe that the greatest obstacle to any real change in the current political crisis is the Democratic party and their hangers-on in the so-called “liberal” press.

ROTFLMFAO

November 27th, 2012
10:23 am

Jay,
I’m sure you will revel in any small fact that supports your left-leaning, neo-Socialist, pro-Muslim outlook on the World.

No matter what “facts” you cite, it is apparent that the Obama administration proliferated a cover-up of the Benghazi incident so that the POTUS wasn’t subject to pre-election embarrassment because of his foreign affairs failure to provide credible intelligence about the threat that Al Qaeda poses to US personnel and facilities overseas; and to act on the intelligence by putting in place adequate resources to meet the threats. It is better to look at the World through rose-colored glasses and claim a foreign affairs victory, instead of a defeat.
Because embassies were attacked during George Bush’s administration, is no motive to argue that the current administration has done a better job protecting our emissaries; because he hasn’t. Obama wants to see himself, and for others to see him, as a protector of our vital interests. But the fact is that he has failed miserably in that regard. It is true that he acted on credible intelligence (much of it from intelligence gathering efforts begun during his predecessor’s administration) and “took out” Bin Laden. But he fails to understand that Al Qaeda is still a threat to our interests because his admission of that fact would diminish the little recognition he garnered from his action. He thinks that it is better to propagate a cover-up than to let that happen!

indigo

November 27th, 2012
10:23 am

stands – 10:00

Trying to have calm, rational discussions with conservatives is like mixing oil and water.

Romney’s comment about Obama’s “gifts” pretty much sums up the overall rationality of conservatives.

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
10:23 am

Aquagirl

I just saw the topic there, and I imagine there are heads spinning around and people vomiting green crap all over the place. :)

Mr Right

November 27th, 2012
10:24 am

Not true!”

yay!!! I’ll play.

what’s not true?

November 27th, 2012
10:13 am

Rice accurately communicated to the American people the best, most current information as assembled by our intelligence community
That’s the part that’s not true! Everybody but the Obama people knew it wasn’t spontanous protest! So is that accurate?

Real Scootter

November 27th, 2012
10:26 am

Real American

November 27th, 2012
10:18 am

I think they ought to ban Fox News cause mm doesn’t like to watch it.
And I don’t like to watch sitcoms so they should ban them too. LOL

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 27th, 2012
10:26 am

“Everybody but the Obama people knew it wasn’t spontanous protest! So is that accurate?”

considering Rice’s comments were reviewed and approved by the CIA prior to their release, evidently your assessment is not accurate.