The Benghazi narrative spun by Fox now in ruins
For at least a few conservatives, Election Night opened eyes about the danger of confining yourself to the right-wing information echo chamber. Because out here in the real world, as opposed to ConservaWorld, it turned out that the polls weren’t skewed, Mitt Romney wasn’t surging and a majority of the American people really did want to re-elect Barack Obama as their president.
Those who had relied on Fox “News” for their information were prepared for none of that.
To my mind, though, the utter collapse of the Fox narrative regarding the attacks on our consulate in Benghazi should be at least as instructive for those who are willing to see things as they are, rather than how they wish them to be. For more than two months, the network and those in Washington who follow its lead tried to create a firestorm of controversy regarding Benghazi, but time and again, as facts came to light, each right-wing claim about Benghazi was exposed as false and inflammatory.
Let’s review the litany, shall we?
“It never would have happened if consulate security had been bolstered as requested!”
No feasible level of consulate security could have saved the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team against an assault by 50 to 100 armed attackers.
“This only happened because under Obama, nobody is afraid of us anymore!” As Charles Krauthammer slickly phrased the argument on Fox, “these are the fruits of apology and retreat and lack of confidence in our own principles.”
Under President Bush, seven U.S. consulates or embassies were attacked, including those in Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia and Syria, with considerable loss of life. But unlike Benghazi, none of those attacks became the pretext for crass partisanship.
“They refused to bring in the AC-130 gunships that could have saved the ambassador.”
The closest AC-130 was 2,500 miles away, in Afghanistan.
“They had Special Forces units sitting there in Italy ready to intervene but instead the cowards just watched our people die!”
The Special Forces units in question did not arrive in Italy until several hours after the attacks had ended, and were never in position to have played a role.
“UN Ambassador Susan Rice lied to the American people, and by doing so disqualified herself from consideration to become secretary of State.”
Rice accurately communicated to the American people the best, most current information as assembled by our intelligence community. There is no evidence that the intel assessment was altered for partisan political reasons, and former CIA Director David Petraeus and current Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper have informed Congress of that fact.
However, the best indication of how completely the Fox narrative has collapsed comes from recent events on Capitol Hill. Sen. John McCain, who had heatedly pledged that “I will do everything in my power to block (Rice) from being the United States’ secretary of State,” has backed off that pledge and in fact is meeting with Rice today. Sen. Lindsey Graham, who had charged that Rice had disqualified herself from consideration, has also changed his tone and is also meeting with Rice today.
Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had earlier accused Rice of lying and said she would not be a “fitting replacement” for Hillary Clinton at State. Yesterday, Inhofe acknowledged that “I’m not at all convinced of that now.”
Those men may yet decide to vote against Rice, should she indeed be nominated by the president. But they appear to understand that they allowed their partisanship and anger to cloud their judgment, which is why they’re now moonwalking things back as quietly as possible.
In addition, State Department and congressional investigations into the Benghazi tragedy are still under way and may yet produce lessons into how such setbacks can be avoided in the future. That again is how it ought to be: When mistakes are made, you try to learn from them and get smarter, so you don’t repeat those mistakes the next time.
Right?
– Jay Bookman
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Midori
November 27th, 2012
9:35 am
First???
Hi Jay
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
9:36 am
there are none so blind as those who watch FOX news …
mm
November 27th, 2012
9:37 am
My wife had jury duty yesterday and one of the courthouse workers turned on the TV in the jury pool room. She turned it to Fox News. Several people, including my wife, complained. The TV was changed to ESPN.
TaxPayer
November 27th, 2012
9:37 am
Was Inhofe recanting from the safety of his portable Igloo. Inquiring minds.
mbtc
November 27th, 2012
9:37 am
Ahhhh…… the clean feeling of new sheets
Janney
November 27th, 2012
9:38 am
You would think the noise-makers would learn from them, but I have my doubts. Nice article, Jay
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
9:38 am
dammit, Midori!! pipped me to the post.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
9:39 am
The Benghazi narrative spun by Fox now in ruins
Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground
.
.
[for extra credit--anyone here know, without googling, what the "flying machine" referred to in that tune?]
saywhat?
November 27th, 2012
9:40 am
But I’m convinced FOX News has learned its lesson, and NEXT time their reporting and commentary will be accurate. I can FEEL it.
Janney
November 27th, 2012
9:40 am
I have begun to complain about Fox News being on in public spaces, also mm. That’s what needs to be done.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
9:43 am
Those who had relied on Fox “News”
Bunny-ear quotes? Why Jay. How shrill.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
9:43 am
saywhat –
clap if you believe!!
Tom Middleton
November 27th, 2012
9:43 am
sfd
James Taylor’s rock band.
mm
November 27th, 2012
9:43 am
These Fox News watchers think everyone else is as stupid as they are. Fox News has poisoned our politics and our electorate.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
9:44 am
mm — “My wife had jury duty yesterday and one of the courthouse workers turned on the TV in the jury pool room. She turned it to Fox News. Several people, including my wife, complained. The TV was changed to ESPN.”
Let me guess; the defense attorneys had your wife and the other complainers struck from the jury pool for not being credulous enough.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
9:44 am
The closest AC-130 was 2,500 miles away, in Afghanistan.
Oh Jay, our Armchair Generals keep tabs of all available military assets at all times. Just ask them.
The aged base of the right-wing is apparent when you have these fools running around screaming junk from forwarded e-mails and crap websites. They have no internet filter on their brains, post any crap electronically and they line up with spoons in hand.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
9:45 am
Mistakes? Mistakes? The GOP don’t make no stinking mistakes! They ARE the mistake…
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
9:46 am
James Taylor’s rock band.
yep.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 27th, 2012
9:46 am
For at least a few conservatives, Election Night opened eyes about the danger of confining yourself to the right-wing information echo chamber
But you’re risking creating an echo chamber of your own here by focusing your entire attention to the zaniness and extremism of the right wing and failing to pay equal attention to the ways that this very nuttiness betrays a lack of a real political opposition that is rooted in struggle and an ideological vision of where to take the country.
The Democrats are really no less the victims of their own spin and “echo chamber” effects.
Tom Middleton
November 27th, 2012
9:47 am
sfd
When that song was popular and such a hit, we learned the history.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
9:48 am
our Armchair Generals keep tabs of all available military assets
No, but they are keenly aware of all internet traditions.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
9:48 am
“Oh Jay, our Armchair Generals keep tabs of all available military assets at all times. Just ask them.”
they’re the ones who don’t seem to realize that Tony Stark is a fictional character
which reminds me of this:
http://thescruffynerdherder.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/20120331-105600.jpg
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
9:48 am
Aquagirl — “Oh Jay, our Armchair Generals keep tabs of all available military assets at all times. Just ask them.”
It has been pointed out here that the 105mm cannon and 40mm AGLs aboard an AC-130 are generally not a good idea in suburban neighborhoods, which is where the consulate was located.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 27th, 2012
9:48 am
One can only hope.
Midori
November 27th, 2012
9:49 am
LOL!!
Hi UK
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
9:49 am
welcome back, stranger!! good to see you again
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
9:50 am
Tom, yeah, my older sibs were such JT fans I remember they actually bought an album that was a re-issue of the Flying Machine’s c. 1967 material.
Fake News Appeals to Fake People...Duh!
November 27th, 2012
9:52 am
AINT YOU TIRED REPUBLICANS?
Tom Middleton
November 27th, 2012
9:52 am
sfd
Heard the album? I’m impressed!!
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
9:52 am
Hey there Midori,
Yes you really do know me…Do you play the violin?
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 27th, 2012
9:52 am
AH
snowing in Pittsburgh wish you were here LOL
FOX is the joke that the cons just don’t get
Ronald Reagan Parkway
November 27th, 2012
9:53 am
John McCain lost all credibility when he chose Sarah Palin and his VP in 2008. He comes off as being a bitter old timer that needs to retire. He can not be trusted with any analytical facts….
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj497/Libprog/311389_248873191907817_1636631853_n.jpg
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
9:53 am
UnU, I’m fearful that the delightful Sound of Music number about the lonely goatherd, high on a hill, will now be displaced by the scruffy variety.
indigo
November 27th, 2012
9:53 am
Libya has given us only a small amount of co-operation in this matter. It’s still not exactly clear what happened.
There’s not much difference between a crazed Muslim street mob and crazed Muslim terrorists, even though most cons here just won’t admit it. To make matters worse, conservative politicians tried to make a political mountain out of this molehill, completely disregarding the feelings of family members of the slain.
Pandering to the lowest dirt common denominator has come back to bite the Republicans.
Ronald Reagan Parkway
November 27th, 2012
9:54 am
Sarah Palin and his
correction..
Sarah Palin AS his
Adam
November 27th, 2012
9:54 am
I want to know what happens when the CIA dude, Susan Rice, and John McCain have their private meeting. I can only imagine it’s to tell John McCain to shut the hell up and get with the program.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
9:55 am
For at least a few conservatives, Election Night opened eyes about the danger of confining yourself to the right-wing information echo chamber. Because out here in the real world, as opposed to ConservaWorld, it turned out that the polls weren’t skewed, Mitt Romney wasn’t surging and a majority of the American people really did want to re-elect Barack Obama as their president.
I offer one Bruce Bartlett as proof that there are Conservatives who live in the real world…
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/revenge-of-the-reality-based-community/
which is why they’re now moonwalking things back as quietly as possible.
That made me laugh hard!!!!
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
9:55 am
Hey, as long as FOX is pushing the blame game, has anyone pointed out that Obama has the Nuclear Strike Codes and could have easily atomized Benghazi to protect the ambassador? No? I demand a congrerssional review!!!!
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
9:55 am
Heard the album?
Yes, some (mumble-cough) years ago. I’m sure Youtube’s got it, though.
All I remember is something called “Knockin’ ‘Round the Zoo,” about his time in a mental institution.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
9:55 am
“John McCain lost all credibility when he chose Sarah Palin and his VP in 2008″
meh.
he lost all respectability when he made fun of Chelsea Clinton in the early 1990s.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
9:56 am
the 105mm cannon and 40mm AGLs aboard an AC-130 are generally not a good idea in suburban neighborhoods
Clearly you are using the wrong movies as your source of information. I bet they didn’t even have Chuck Norris or another appropriately godly ‘Merican Fighting Man.
Hey Midori!
East Lake Ira
November 27th, 2012
9:56 am
I fear we have several more rounds of crazy still to come on this or Petraus… see Kay Bailey Hutchinson intimating the President hid the affair data or some such nonsense…
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/25/barney-frank-confronts-hutchinson-for-weasel-words-linking-obama-to-petraeus-scandal/
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 27th, 2012
9:56 am
Corbin
You Ain’t Normal
USinUK
Your Cheez from earlier shows you are from the South. Kissin brother and sister yep
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
9:56 am
oe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
9:48 am
In the first posts of this Benghazi thing, I pointed out that a Spectre was like a shotgun in a hall way, but was told they were laser guided and no civilian would be hurt. Then they said no civilian would be near a fire fight…but since we know that terrorists like to use civilians as body armor that argument didn’t wash either.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
9:56 am
“will now be displaced by the scruffy variety.”
his yodeling is raspy and phlegmy due to too much booze and a 2-pack a day habit.
clem
November 27th, 2012
9:57 am
truth is most of the conservative bloggers here are about as bright as most of the folks reading scripts on Faux…..doocheybag and killroy. what a pair
curious
November 27th, 2012
9:57 am
Why didn’t we use a Cruise missile?
The 4 were probably already dead, but even if they weren’t, we would at least shown those rag heads who’s boss.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
9:58 am
“Kay Bailey Hutchinson intimating the President hid the affair data or some such nonsense”
ohsweetjeebus, Barney Franks took her DOWNTOWN during that interview.
talk about wishing you had popcorn!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 27th, 2012
9:58 am
Well, at least Fox News was trying to get at the Truth. Which is more than I can say for the lyin’ librul media. And you got to give Fox credit—there’s nothing like getting a mad on to get the blood flowing and the hackles up.
Anyhow, it all sounded about right at the time. It fit right in with the way we was thinking.
Have a good Tuesday everybody.
Adam
November 27th, 2012
9:59 am
Brosephus: I am a big fan of Bruce Bartlett. Did you know conservative outlets are working overtime to discredit even that piece you shared? “He wasn’t banned!”
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
9:59 am
“we would at least shown those rag heads who’s boss.”
words fail.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
9:59 am
“But they appear to understand that they allowed their partisanship and anger to cloud their judgment, which is why they’re now moonwalking things back as quietly as possible.”
Plus the election is over and with more allegations than substance they eventually have to show something or start working on more productive issues; like “what is being done to mitigate these type tragedies in the future?”.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:00 am
Aquagirl — “Clearly you are using the wrong movies as your source of information. I bet they didn’t even have Chuck Norris or another appropriately godly ‘Merican Fighting Man.”
Come now; surely you recognize that such an amount of weaponry will transform *anyone* into a “g*dd*mn*d sexual Tyrannosaurus.”
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
10:00 am
There’s not much difference between a crazed Muslim street mob and crazed Muslim terrorists
indigo, I’ve actually tried in recent weeks to have calm, rational discussions with actual conservatives here, about what flippin’ difference it would’ve made to Obama’s re-election prospects if it were, in fact, “merely” the entire Islamic world apparently erupting in violent protests against an offensive film. I really was not trying to do this for the “gotcha” value; I really was trying to figure out what rationale the Administration could possibly have, in this scenario, to concoct such a story.
You can imagine the pretzel twists I encountered as the few souls who were willing to address this inquiry responded.
Lord Help Us
November 27th, 2012
10:01 am
Jay, you left off some of my fave Benghazi hits…
Stevens was sodomized…
Obama watched and did nothing while our citizens were killed…
Obama LIED and people DIED…
The kooks went off the deep end with this one. But, do not despair, they will fall for the same stuff again soon…
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:01 am
“Come now; surely you recognize that such an amount of weaponry will transform *anyone* into a “g*dd*mn*d sexual Tyrannosaurus.”
”
do you guys have the series “Strike Back” there?? perfect example of that ^^^^
Tom Middleton
November 27th, 2012
10:01 am
sfd
Isn’t the institution where JT met the girl who committed suicide? Like Ray Charles and so many others, he was into heroin.
Jefferson
November 27th, 2012
10:02 am
Alcoholics like bars, grumpy old people like fox as they tell them what they want to hear.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:02 am
curious — “The 4 were probably already dead, but even if they weren’t, we would at least shown those rag heads who’s boss.”
How about we give you a K-Bar, a Colt and a plane ticket so you can go show us how it’s done, Cowboy?
Mara
November 27th, 2012
10:04 am
Did you just use Fox News and “truth” in the same sentence?! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
10:04 am
I pointed out that a Spectre was like a shotgun in a hall way, but was told they were laser guided and no civilian would be hurt.
Somebody actually said that???? I think they bought into Hollywood’s version of Spooky. Damn Transformer’s Movie!!!!
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
10:04 am
raspy and phlegmy due to too much booze and a 2-pack a day habit
UnU, it might help you appreciate how funny that was, if you knew that Sam Seder occasionally breaks out a clip of Julie Andrews singing that tune when he’s just depressed beyond belief about some news item, and figures we all need a little audio pick-me-up.
(Thinking of the von Trapp kids frolicking around the Alps puts him in a happy place.)
curious
November 27th, 2012
10:05 am
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:02 am
curious — “The 4 were probably already dead, but even if they weren’t, we would at least shown those rag heads who’s boss.”
“How about we give you a K-Bar, a Colt and a plane ticket so you can go show us how it’s done, Cowboy?”
Joe,
Apparently you can’t recognize tongue-in-cheek.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
10:06 am
Adam
I’ve become a reader of his work. I can’t deal with the close-minded conservatives. I remember Bartlett when he was in office, and for him to say what he does means a great deal. He’s no RINO at all, by any stretch of the imagination. Trying to discredit him only proves his point on that echo chamber.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
10:06 am
Why didn’t we use a Cruise missile?
if you meant dropping Tom Cruise from a great height just because I’d be ok with that.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:08 am
Curious — “Joe, Apparently you can’t recognize tongue-in-cheek.”
Apparently neither can *you.*
bill euless
November 27th, 2012
10:08 am
Sounds like what you are saying is that the white house sopin that it was a protest over a movie trailer is false.
Doggone/GA
November 27th, 2012
10:09 am
“Apparently you can’t recognize tongue-in-cheek”
and maybe you aren’t as good at is as you think.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:10 am
dB – this was a little more of what I had in mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KP9PNSUME4
lady – odel – lady – odel lay – hoo hoo
Ronald Reagan
November 27th, 2012
10:10 am
Perhaps this Liberal writer had too many days off for Thanksgiving. Benghazi is alive & well until the mourning family gets answers.
East Lake Ira
November 27th, 2012
10:10 am
Where’s the home grown crazy?
I was hoping for some spittle and froth.
Peter Combs
November 27th, 2012
10:10 am
The attacks on other Embassy’s mentioned in the article were as follows:
2002: U.S. Consulate In Karachi, Pakistan, Attacked; 10 Killed, 51 Injured. From a June 15, 2002, Chicago Tribune article: CAR Bomb only outside gates, no Americans killed.
2004: U.S. Embassy Bombed In Uzbekistan. From a July 31, 2004, Los Angeles Times article: Suicide Bomber, no ground assault, no Americans killed
2004: Gunmen Stormed U.S. Consulate In Saudi Arabia. From a December 6, 2004, New York Times article: Attackers repelled by security, 3 Gunmen killed no Americans killed.
2006: Armed Men Attacked U.S. Embassy In Syria. From a September 13, 2006, Washington Post article: one guard killed, assault lasted 20 minutes. attackers repelled, all three gunmen killed. No Americans injured.
2007: Grenade Launched Into U.S. Embassy In Athens. From The New York Times: Building empty an RPG was fired, no injury’s, no ground assault, no Americans killed.
2008: Rioters Set Fire To U.S. Embassy In Serbia. From The New York Times: Embassy empty. No injuries.
2008: Ten People Killed In Bombings At U.S. Embassy In Yemen. From The New York Times: Two Car Bombs, no ground assault. No Americans killed.
Most of the aforementioned assaults were either single explosion car bombs or suicide bombers or a couple of armed men who were quickly killed. No Americans were killed.
As for the comment that additional security would not have saved the Ambassador is an odd assertion. Three Ex-navy Seals held them all off for 6 hours, saving dozens of personnel. Another 30 trained Ex Seals might have easily repelled them.
General Ham was able and prepared to stage a rescue and was removed from his position during the attack as AFRICOM commander by Leon Panetta.
godless heathen
November 27th, 2012
10:11 am
Damned right wing nuts:
Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Sunday that she has initiated a review of talking points used by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice on the attack on the American diplomatic facility in Libya, with the goal of determining why the public comments appeared to conflict with the initial assessment of U.S. intelligence sources.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:11 am
” Apparently you can’t recognize tongue-in-cheek.”
ah, yes … the “I was keeeeeeding” gambit … eees joke, no?
no.
Commonscents
November 27th, 2012
10:11 am
come on you guys, without Fox News and The Blaze….I can’t be entertained by breaking news of The New Black Panthers getting guns from Fast and Furious to assist Taliban in the Benghazi attacks to cover up details of Obama’s muslim Kenyan birth certificate”.
tm
November 27th, 2012
10:12 am
and the guy who made the movie is still in jail
curious
November 27th, 2012
10:12 am
Doggone/GA
November 27th, 2012
10:09 am
“Apparently you can’t recognize tongue-in-cheek”
“and maybe you aren’t as good at is as you think”
You’re right. I thought it was a pretty poke at all those who think we have men and machine poised to strike at a moments notice anywhere in the world.
Mr Right
November 27th, 2012
10:13 am
Rice accurately communicated to the American people the best, most current information as assembled by our intelligence community. There is no evidence that the intel assessment was altered for partisan political reasons, and former CIA Director David Petraeus and current Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper have informed Congress of that fact.
Not true!
Doggone/GA
November 27th, 2012
10:13 am
“and the guy who made the movie is still in jail”
but not for making the movie
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:14 am
“Not true!”
yay!!! I’ll play.
what’s not true?
alex
November 27th, 2012
10:14 am
the first casuality of war is the truth.. perhaps we have lost respect and before we were just hated..now we are hated and disrespected–an opinion …
Either way , I’ll wait for the book..or I could get the Bookman OPINION or Fox OPINION….I’ll wait….
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:15 am
USinUK — “ah, yes … the “I was keeeeeeding” gambit … eees joke, no?”
He’s a big man when he’s got a cruise missile and an ocean or two between him an the bad guys. Up close, not so much.
Jeffrey
November 27th, 2012
10:15 am
I won $100 off my fox news watching aunt on the outcome of the election. The day before the election I told her when she pays me she should sue fox news for lying to her.
I won a bottle of bourbon from my moderate friend on the outcome of the election. A few days after the election he came over to pay up. The first thing he said was man those people on fox are liars.
Nuff
Bizarre GOP Thanksgiving Pics Make America Ask, ‘What’s wrong with these people?’
November 27th, 2012
10:15 am
First John McCain’s wife posted a picture to Twitter in which there appears to be some kind of puppet/fake man/ghost hiding in a tree behind the Senator as he prepares to fry the turkey, and then today Mitt Romney posted a bizarre photo on Facebook from their family Thanksgiving in which a shiveled looking Mitt is leaning on an allegedly cooking Ann Romney.
Just odd.
These people are odd.
Check it out. John McCain’s Thanksgiving photo, as posted by BuzzFeed’s Andrew Kaczynski (who, we assume, added the yellow box around the tree creature):
http://www.politicususa.com/bizarre-republican-thanksgiving-pics-mccain-romney.html
Mr Right
November 27th, 2012
10:16 am
O K, folks move on, there’s nothing to see here! Only four dead Americans!
Jeffrey
November 27th, 2012
10:16 am
Said
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:17 am
So far there is no story here. No conspiracy, no cover up, nothing to hide.
Real American
November 27th, 2012
10:18 am
mm @9:37 – that is hilarious! Everybody said they would rather watch Skip Bayless bloviate than watch the complete horror of Faux News. LOL
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
10:19 am
I was hoping for some spittle and froth.
It’s over at the the Buzz blog. Delusional lickspittle everywhere, what a mess.
Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 27th, 2012
10:20 am
townhall.com has a benghazi story right up at the top today….
teh stoopid…..
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
10:20 am
Mr. Right – “O K, folks move on, there’s nothing to see here! Only four dead Americans!”
OK folks, move on, theres nothing to see here! Only four thousand dead Americans!
-Mr Right on the invasion of Iraq-
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
10:21 am
OK, I don’t get it…who is Lady Odel and why do you want her to lay?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:22 am
Jay – you going to the MuckRack meet-up tonight??? if you do and meet Natan, tell him you know me
Welcome to the Occupation
November 27th, 2012
10:22 am
More than ever I’m beginning to believe that the greatest obstacle to any real change in the current political crisis is the Democratic party and their hangers-on in the so-called “liberal” press.
ROTFLMFAO
November 27th, 2012
10:23 am
Jay,
I’m sure you will revel in any small fact that supports your left-leaning, neo-Socialist, pro-Muslim outlook on the World.
No matter what “facts” you cite, it is apparent that the Obama administration proliferated a cover-up of the Benghazi incident so that the POTUS wasn’t subject to pre-election embarrassment because of his foreign affairs failure to provide credible intelligence about the threat that Al Qaeda poses to US personnel and facilities overseas; and to act on the intelligence by putting in place adequate resources to meet the threats. It is better to look at the World through rose-colored glasses and claim a foreign affairs victory, instead of a defeat.
Because embassies were attacked during George Bush’s administration, is no motive to argue that the current administration has done a better job protecting our emissaries; because he hasn’t. Obama wants to see himself, and for others to see him, as a protector of our vital interests. But the fact is that he has failed miserably in that regard. It is true that he acted on credible intelligence (much of it from intelligence gathering efforts begun during his predecessor’s administration) and “took out” Bin Laden. But he fails to understand that Al Qaeda is still a threat to our interests because his admission of that fact would diminish the little recognition he garnered from his action. He thinks that it is better to propagate a cover-up than to let that happen!
indigo
November 27th, 2012
10:23 am
stands – 10:00
Trying to have calm, rational discussions with conservatives is like mixing oil and water.
Romney’s comment about Obama’s “gifts” pretty much sums up the overall rationality of conservatives.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
10:23 am
Aquagirl
I just saw the topic there, and I imagine there are heads spinning around and people vomiting green crap all over the place.
Mr Right
November 27th, 2012
10:24 am
Not true!”
yay!!! I’ll play.
what’s not true?
November 27th, 2012
10:13 am
Rice accurately communicated to the American people the best, most current information as assembled by our intelligence community
That’s the part that’s not true! Everybody but the Obama people knew it wasn’t spontanous protest! So is that accurate?
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
10:26 am
Real American
November 27th, 2012
10:18 am
I think they ought to ban Fox News cause mm doesn’t like to watch it.
And I don’t like to watch sitcoms so they should ban them too. LOL
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:26 am
“Everybody but the Obama people knew it wasn’t spontanous protest! So is that accurate?”
considering Rice’s comments were reviewed and approved by the CIA prior to their release, evidently your assessment is not accurate.
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:26 am
vomiting green crap?
straitroad
November 27th, 2012
10:26 am
Jay, your issue is that you only discuss what you think are mistakes made by those that you do not agree with. In this regard, you’re very similar to Rush or Hannity, just with different colored stripes. You reference an “echo chamber” in your post. That’s exactly what your blog is, the only difference being the political alignment of those in the chamber.
alex
November 27th, 2012
10:27 am
@ Bizarre Gop: YOU need a life……
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 27th, 2012
10:28 am
Always amazing that somehow disproving the conspiracy cover-up claims and providing the truth about the sequence of events which disproves all of Fox’s factiness contentions is, to the real conned wingnuts, not caring about 4 dead.
But hey, how many people died today because they did not get medical care in time because they were not insured? The wingnut concern about body counts seems limited in true concern.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:29 am
straitroad — “You reference an “echo chamber” in your post. That’s exactly what your blog is, the only difference being the political alignment of those in the chamber.”
Well, that and Jay’s not an obese druggie molestasaurus with ten million rabid followers.
nelson
November 27th, 2012
10:29 am
everybody knows more than me. all I can say is I would not want to be the ambassador or envoy to Benghazi and counting on President O to send in some protection while i am in a strange hostile unstable government. All the time the Prez is playing footsie with the Muslims.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
10:30 am
vomiting green crap?
Oscar, you really need to catch up on your “movies everybody has seen” list.
emo
November 27th, 2012
10:30 am
‘When mistakes are made, you try to learn from them and get smarter, so you don’t repeat those mistakes the next time.’
Not if you’re a republican; you just blame Obama.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
10:30 am
To Fox News…
http://cheezburger.com/6676999168
alex
November 27th, 2012
10:31 am
@ straitroad, He’s an opinion writer (i.e. HIS opinion)…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 27th, 2012
10:32 am
Ah, …………………….. you left a very important one out !
“Let’s review the litany, shall we?”
“The premise of the entire debate is false, because the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was not an act of terror.” http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/17/on-benghazi-the-debate-and-acts-of-terror/
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:33 am
“Not if you’re a republican; you just blame Obama.”
and the voters.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
November 27th, 2012
10:33 am
Good Lord Nelson, please do share your knowledge and provide proof of this footsie playing with the Muslims, I can;t wait…..
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
10:33 am
Oscar
Reference to “The Exorcist”
Head spinning…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSxuXQCEC7M
green vomit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjrBjdb2T8
Lord Help Us
November 27th, 2012
10:34 am
Funny…the digit idgit reminds me of a starving dog holding onto a porkchop…
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
10:34 am
Isn’t the institution where JT met the girl who committed suicide?
Wouldn’t surprise me, but I hadn’t actually heard that.
oh, and UnU–tasteful Robbie Robertson tune, but was I supposed to hear yodeling?
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:35 am
Aquagirl – Probably true. Just don’t get out much to movies anymore.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
10:35 am
When mistakes are made, you try to learn from them and get smarter, so you don’t repeat those mistakes the next time.’
Not if you’re a Democrat; you just blame Bush.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
November 27th, 2012
10:35 am
Dang it JHM, you made me snarf my diet coke….
an obese druggie molestasaurus ….
straitroad
November 27th, 2012
10:36 am
Joe – “Well, that and Jay’s not an obese druggie molestasaurus with ten million rabid followers.”
The name calling on this board isn’t necessary. Some of your fellow posters may be obese, it’s probably more than ten milion, and I don’t know how many of them are rabid.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
10:36 am
Probably true. Just don’t get out much to movies anymore.
Neither do I, but missing both “WOLVERINES!!!”
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:36 am
Bro – Never saw the Exorcist. Did read the book. Kept me awake for a month.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:37 am
“oh, and UnU–tasteful Robbie Robertson tune, but was I supposed to hear yodeling?”
hahaha … no – but it was his voice I had in mind when I said that. (on a somewhat related note, a friend of mine told me there is a recording of Robbie Robertson singing “Teddy Bear Picnic” … dying to find it)
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:37 am
Loves — “Not if you’re a Democrat; you just blame Bush.”
We did learn from that mistake. Perhaps you missed the last two Presidential elections.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
10:38 am
…oops, wrong button. Anyway Oscar, missing both “WOLVERINES!!!” and the spinning head with green vomit in one day…man, that’s weak.
straitroad
November 27th, 2012
10:38 am
alex, yes he is an opinion writer who criticizes the opinions of other opinion writers. Plus, Jay is a big boy. He probably doesn’t need you to come to his defense.
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
10:39 am
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid – “Not if you’re a Democrat; you just blame Bush.”
Riiiiight. That explains all the press junkets and public appearances that Bush made on Romneys behalf during the election. Tell me , what was the most memorable quote from GW during Romneys RNC convention?
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:39 am
Saw the first Red Dawn on tv . Skipping the new one. North Korea invading?
And avoid any movie with vomit scenes. Except liked the one in “The Great Santini.”
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
10:40 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 27th, 2012
10:32 am
No matter how many times you post that here it will be ignored. Nice try though!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:41 am
“Riiiiight. That explains all the press junkets and public appearances that Bush made on Romneys behalf during the election. Tell me , what was the most memorable quote from GW during Romneys RNC convention?”
well played!
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
10:41 am
Bush’s mistake was that he spent money like a Liberal (see wars and Medicare Part D) and he happened to be the President when the housing market collapsed (through no fault of his own). Obama has given us much,much,much more of the same and that’s why we are in the mess we are in. Fiscally, the last 2 elections have not changed our economic situation much. We do have a black President that loves his class warfare though :-0
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
10:42 am
Aquagirl,
Never saw The Exorcist, but I think the original “Wolverine!” is still the best. I did see “Rose Mary’s Baby” and Read King’s “Pet Cemetery” Promised myself I’d never see another move or read another book like that. I still shudder…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:42 am
straitroad — “The name calling on this board isn’t necessary.”
Unless and until you’re ready to call out your own ideological compatriots for doing it, you can go jump in a lake for all I care.
“Some of your fellow posters may be obese”
Then again, you might be yourself.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
10:43 am
Oscar
That movie is as old as I am, and I still get the heebee jeebees when it’s on. The first two books I remember reading were “Jaws” and “Christine”. I read both of them by the time I finished the 5th Grade. To this day, I don’t swim in the ocean, and I will not touch a 1950’s Plymouh Fury.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
10:43 am
you left a very important one out !
Scout, since you insist on reposting this, I guess I gotta return the favor.
This is why today’s speech by Gov. Rick Perry rings so true. We need the “real church” to stand up and be counted:
“An unholy church is useless to the world. It is of no value. It is an abomination. It is hell’s laughter and heaven’s abhorrence. The worst evils that have ever come on the world have been brought by an unholy church.”
Charles Spurgeon
Alas, our country is full of “unholy” churches and even entire “unholy” denominations.
Just sayin ……………………………
Could you please tell us all which of the Christian denominations you regard as entirely “unholy”, please?
Thanks!
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:44 am
Loves — “Bush’s mistake was that he spent money like a Liberal (see wars and Medicare Part D) and he happened to be the President when the housing market collapsed (through no fault of his own).”
The lack of self-awareness among these cons is truly staggering at times.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
10:45 am
I did see “Rose Mary’s Baby” and Read King’s “Pet Cemetery” Promised myself I’d never see another move or read another book like that. I still shudder…
Welcome to the club. Stephen King ain’t right… but I can’t put his books down when I get my hands on one. There’s probably a support group out there somewhere for me.
straitroad
November 27th, 2012
10:46 am
Joe, lighten up.
Tundra Dude
November 27th, 2012
10:46 am
Again….???
Think I got BO, (Benghazi Overdose)
Guess I’ll go shopping at the mall…stimulate the economy a bit…
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 27th, 2012
10:46 am
<. . .and then today Mitt Romney posted a bizarre photo on Facebook from their family Thanksgiving in which a shiveled looking Mitt is leaning on an allegedly cooking Ann Romney.
Well, I reckon I must not think like most people. The question I have is, why’s she wearing a sweater like it’s cold and why’s he wearing a t-shirt with what looks like sweat stains under his arm hole?
alex
November 27th, 2012
10:47 am
@ straightroad, new to the blog? I am not often accused of defending Jay…just wait ’till we get to Krugman…..
Anyway, so who gave Ralphies brother the Zepplin?…….
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:47 am
Psycho kept a lot of people from taking showers for a long time.
DannyX
November 27th, 2012
10:48 am
“Obama has given us much,much,much more of the same and that’s why we are in the mess we are in.”
It must be horrible living in that Fox News fog.
For instance, that housing market you mentioned? Foreclosures at 5 year low, home prices up, construction up.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:48 am
straitroad — “Joe, lighten up.”
Take a hike, threadmarm. (giggling)
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:49 am
After seeing the “Shining” I stayed away from old hotels with long hallways for a while.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
10:50 am
Tell me , what was the most memorable quote from GW during Romneys RNC convention?
boy howdy, that was a barn-burner. Remember how Mitt joked that GWB was now the “Secretary of Explaining Sh-t”?
Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 27th, 2012
10:51 am
LOL, very short Fox News interview:
http://www.alternet.org/how-end-fox-news-interview-abruptly-call-fox-wing-republican-party
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:52 am
“After seeing the “Shining” I stayed away from old hotels with long hallways for a while.”
and kids on big wheels
Nero
November 27th, 2012
10:52 am
Good morning leeches!!
You ready for the let down? Say goodbye to your precious mortgage deduction and get ready to have those 401Ks taxed. Haha!! The messiah is gonna stab you in the back once again, and you all keep marching lockstep like lemmings. Chumps! You better pray for sequestration. Better to know what’s coming than getting bent over by ‘our Lord and Savior”. Leeches always line up like good little sheep. Lol!
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:54 am
It must be horrible living in that Fox News fog.
_______
Expect the same coming from them for a least four more years. And four more unless the GOP wakes up and comes back to the real world.
But if the GOP did that, where would the right wing group go. They would be off by themselves. South and West glued together out of touch with the rest of the country.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:56 am
“Say goodbye to your precious mortgage deduction and get ready to have those 401Ks taxed”
we live just fine here without a mortgage deduction … you will too
your 401K IS taxed when you start cashing out, dear.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
10:56 am
Oscar @ 10:49
You’re ok just as long as one of your kids isn’t mentioning something about red rum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iwK2jwqFfk
I got in-school suspension because of a classmate who could do that voice so well..
alittlecommonsense
November 27th, 2012
10:56 am
In Jay’s echo chamber, democrat talking points = facts.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
10:56 am
And which specific Obama policy do we owe the ‘HOUSING REBOUND’ to?
I’ll save you a post….Crickets chirping….
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:57 am
“And which specific Obama policy do we owe the ‘HOUSING REBOUND’ to?
”
okay, I’ll play.
to what specific GOP Congressional policy do we owe the housing rebound to?
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
10:58 am
In case you hadn’t noticed, the country is split right down the middle and Conservatives can’t afford to go anywhere lest the country continue it’s spiraling descent. Deal with it.
clem
November 27th, 2012
10:59 am
nero, how long have you been a nutbar? and alittlecommonsense ought to change your moniker to ihaveverylittlecommonsense.
Jefferson
November 27th, 2012
10:59 am
Nero is a full pip.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
10:59 am
You’re ok just as long as one of your kids isn’t mentioning something about red rum
If I ever had two little blonde girl twins I would drown them at birth.
JohnnyReb
November 27th, 2012
10:59 am
Jay, your piece was a little premature. NO kumbaya in the Rice/Repub Senator meeting that just adjourned.
I also note that if Repubs are being led astray by FOX, a similar force of a different pole is working its magic on you.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
11:00 am
That’s the problem, USinUK, nobody is doing anything in Congress or the Presidency. However, all I ever read on Jay’s blog is how wonderful, great, etc Obama is and it just ain’t true. I hope it’s ok to have an opinion on an opinion blog :-0
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 27th, 2012
11:01 am
Bro
10:43 am
I read both of them by the time I finished the 5th Grade. To this day, I don’t swim in the ocean, and I will not touch a 1950’s Plymouh Fury.
——————————–
That’s cause you are a wuss LOL
You sure you are from Bama
Scuba Steve
November 27th, 2012
11:04 am
Molestasaurus! I literally just died.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:04 am
“That’s the problem, USinUK, nobody is doing anything in Congress or the Presidency. ”
yeah. well, there are some people who are more at fault than others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc
Carlos
November 27th, 2012
11:04 am
The British had already closed their consulate in Benghazi due to the heightened danger from Salafist militias. We neither closed nor reinforced ours, against repeated requests from our own people in Libya.
Susan Rice was a, perhaps, unwitting participant in an effort to blame the deaths on a riot caused by a nutcase video, rather than the organized attack that was known from the outset. She chose to stick with her script under some strong cross examination, knowing that her interviewers were getting diametrically opposite reports from their own people on site.
Unless the “intelligence” agencies responsible for the misrepresentation thought that the militia leaders had IQs of 80, their excuses for their public talking points were flimsy. The perpetrators well know that we would be looking for them. They knew that their pronouncements had a political impact in a close fought presidential election.
So did Ambassador Rice. United States diplomats aren’t supposed to be participants in political campaigns. THAT’s the problem that she’s got.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
11:05 am
However, all I ever read on Jay’s blog is how wonderful, great, etc Obama is
I will dump on the Preznit for turkee.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:05 am
“Molestasaurus! I literally just died.”
well.
not literally.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:05 am
Spoken like a true expatriate leech. Count on it. Your 401Ks are gonna be “tweaked” and you’ll owe on those as well. Get ready for the let down. It’s coming. Better to embrace sequestration.
Stevie Ray
November 27th, 2012
11:06 am
JAY
Why do you continue to blast Fox news…the easiest targets going? Anyhow, it will be interesting to see what we learn although if any aspect was handled poorly, it will get buried as neither Bush nor BO will allow release of anything negative.
You seem 100% sure this issue is behind you….we will see.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:08 am
Jefferson is a full leech. Cue The Jefferson’s theme song…
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
11:10 am
NoCom: That’s cause you are a wuss LOL
You sure you are from Bama
Quick question for you to test your observational skills… How many Blacks have been victims of shark attacks since Jaws came out as a movie?
We don’t play that!!
DannyX
November 27th, 2012
11:10 am
“Obama has given us much,much,much more of the same and that’s why we are in the mess we are in.”
Hey Kool-aid guy, you can’t defend your ridiculous comment can you?
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:10 am
Thanks for the tip clem. It’s coming and you can’t stop it. You gotta be hating it.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
11:11 am
S. Ray — “You seem 100% sure this issue is behind you….we will see.”
Well, okay. If you say so.
. . .
So are we done with the birth certificate thing now or what?
Donovan
November 27th, 2012
11:14 am
We seem to have an over confident left wing attack against Fox News, don’t we comrades? It would seem that all the liberal main stream media operatives are way out in front of this damaging Obama scandal.
I shall clear up a few fallacies that Comrade Bookman stated in this morning’s propaganda release. Nothing could have saved Ambassador Stevens? When you are doing very sensitive CIA work in a country riddled with an Al Qaeda presence the show of force protection must be limited. When you are trying to secure Russian shoulder fired SA7 missiles the task becomes unmanageable with large numbers of personnel. The ambassador’s life would have been saved had a force of 100 operators been stationed there. The State Dept. ruled against that scenario to preserve their cover. It back fired.
The Bush reference is nonsense. Any consulate or embassy that was attacked was very limited to minor damage caused by individual perpetrators. There was never any large loss of life. Mr. Bookman is reading G.I. Joe comic books.
There were AC-130 gunships closer than 2,500 miles away. There could have been one on station within 60 minutes. We have the capability to respond quickly in the North African theater with various forms of munitions. Trust me and not the liberal news media.
Special forces in Italy could have been utilized, but were told to stand down due to higher command oversight. The State Depart. was in confusion and the window of opportunity was lost. However, Mr. Bookman failed to mention that the Obama regime also failed to adequately secure the aftermath with proper security. There are numerous CIA and Joint Force assets all over N. Africa that could also have played a supporting role in the rescue of our people left behind.
Our U.N. Ambassador, who carries the water for the Obama regime, dutifully carried out the ruse of a spontaneous attack while the regime tried to cover their stories. Those stories don’t add up comrades.
Senators McCain, Graham, and Inhofe are feeling the collective efforts of the Obama regime to tone down their rhetoric under the cloak of national security. Just like the Contra gun running deal, Libya and Syria are not out of the mix yet.
The best defense is a good offense. Stifle Fox News, stifle activist senators, and repeatedly mention the need for more and more State Dept. and congressional investigations. As time goes on, people get less interested and complacent.
Based on the liberal cesspool I swim in, my post will inevitably be attacked as fodder for you elitists. Open your eyes and think for yourselves. Try not to be the cows who blindly follow the Bookman cow with the bell.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:14 am
“Spoken like a true expatriate leech.”
um. yeah. darlin’, you’re stuck in a rut.
“Count on it. Your 401Ks are gonna be “tweaked” and you’ll owe on those as well. Get ready for the let down. It’s coming. Better to embrace sequestration.”
decaf, sweetie. you should think about the switch. you’re positively all aflutter.
Scuba Steve
November 27th, 2012
11:14 am
UnU
No, literally! I am posting from beyond the grave! OOOOoooOOoooooo (It’s Tuesday, I’m bored. Gimme a break, will ya?)
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
11:14 am
Nero, prove it or shut up, please.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 27th, 2012
11:15 am
Anyhow, it will be interesting to see what we learn although if any aspect was handled poorly, it will get buried as neither Bush nor BO will allow release of anything negative.
No matter how many Fox/wingnut claims fail and are discredited, like all good followers of the birther conspiracy mindset (now also Benghazi), there is always something “else” and the nonfactual factiness claim that “BO will [not] allow release of anything negative.”
YouLibs
November 27th, 2012
11:16 am
Nero
I wish I had a nickel for every terrible thing that right-wing nutcases assured me was going to happen if Obama was elected/reelected that hasn’t happened. I could probably rent our friend’s house at Panama City Beach for a week.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
11:17 am
Donavan — “There were AC-130 gunships closer than 2,500 miles away. There could have been one on station within 60 minutes. We have the capability to respond quickly in the North African theater with various forms of munitions.”
As has been pointed out several times here, 105mm cannon are not the sorts of weapons you should be using in a suburban neighborhood (where the consulate was located) in an ostensibly friendly nation.
“Trust me and not the liberal news media.”
Given your exhibited poor judgment, I see no reason to repose trust if you if you claim that the sun will come up in the morning.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
11:17 am
If my comments are so ridiculous, why are we staring at a Fiscal Cliff 4 years into Obama’s presidency? You can blame Bush all you want, but Obama campaigned the first time on fixing the mess. Reagan fixed Carter’s mess so we know it can be done.The one opportunity he had with regards to pass legislation with his name on it was a waste called Obamacare. Why wasn’t it legislation to move the economy forward? The Messiah has not delivered and the oceans aren’t receding. Epic fail so far.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
11:19 am
I take it this “they are taking yer 401k” meme is some kind of ongoing smokescreen from the right to provide cover for the Village so it can
anally rapeswindle Americans under a Simpson/Bowels grand bargain thingie, yes?Wonder what form the smokescreen will take/has already taken from the left. hmm.
BRW
November 27th, 2012
11:20 am
Next person who feeds the Nero (”leech is my middle name”) troll gets banned by the Park Ranger! (So says Yogi and BooBoo).
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 27th, 2012
11:21 am
Donovan: Trust me and not the liberal news media.</I.
My nominee for one of the funniest posts for 2012!
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:21 am
Bless your heart! A leech that’s concerned. Nah, I’ll be fine. Have you steeled yourself for the stab in the back yet? It’s coming.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
11:21 am
I appreciate sparring with JHM and DannyX but I must go shower know that I have been on Bookman’s blog for so long. This Producer has to go produce so Obama has money to throw at his voters.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
11:22 am
why are we staring at a Fiscal Cliff 4 years into Obama’s presidency?
We aren’t. this F#scal Cl!ff” you refer to, It’s merely a silly bit of expiration-date legislation that will be addressed like every other bit of silly expiration-date legislation.
It’s not my fault that you’re not bright enough to look past a stupid corporate media narrative. Sheesh. Take some personal responsibility for your news gathering, willya?
DannyX
November 27th, 2012
11:23 am
“If my comments are so ridiculous, why are we staring at a Fiscal Cliff 4 years into Obama’s presidency?”
You still can’t back up your claim, ““Obama has given us much,much,much more of the same and that’s why we are in the mess we are in.” You keep changing the goal line.
Btw, holiday spending is way up.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:23 am
“No, literally! I am posting from beyond the grave! OOOOoooOOoooooo (It’s Tuesday, I’m bored. Gimme a break, will ya?)”
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:24 am
Corbin Bernsen,
The let down is gonna be especially harsh for you. It’s ok buddy. I’ll hold your hand if you need courage.
Common Sense
November 27th, 2012
11:24 am
“I’m more troubled today, knowing–having met with the acting director of the CIA and Ambassador Rice,” Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R., N.H.) said, “because it’s certainly clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al Qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy.”
It’s good Jay got his narrative out there prior to the non-Fox News driven interviews from the Senators that met and spoke with Rice.
clayton co.
November 27th, 2012
11:26 am
Housing rebound?????, here, where, ..REBOUND, must be about basketball..lots of empty nets down here….
TaxPayer
November 27th, 2012
11:26 am
Poor nero must be trying to psyche himself out for the coming FOUR MORE YEARS he must endure.
Jefferson
November 27th, 2012
11:29 am
Laughing at the pip Nero, so shallow and predictable. ha, ha
CJ
November 27th, 2012
11:30 am
Update: Given an opportunity to save face, McCain & Associates double down.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/11/27/ambassador-susan-rice-biography-benghazi/1728985/
getalife
November 27th, 2012
11:30 am
“ConservaWorld” aka la la land.
Let them stay in la la land to continue to lose elections.
Let them stay the course.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
11:32 am
Unemployment is up over Bush too so what does that mean Danny boy?
Follow this if you can:
Libs say Bush spent us into economic problems.
Obama has spent way more than Bush.
Libs say Obama has improved our economy by spending more than Bush.
Now you know why they drink the Kool-Aid. It replaces reasoning and facts.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:33 am
Are you ready for the messiah’s betrayal TaxLeecher? I’m ready and excited. Are you? It must suck to know you’re gonna get thrown under the bus and nothing will change. Come on board the sequestration bus. I’ll save you a seat.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
11:33 am
Loves — “I appreciate sparring with JHM”
Don’t compliment yourself. You’re more of a diaper-changing partner than a sparring partner.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
11:35 am
y’all know that the other Nero was insane too, right?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:35 am
“Follow this if you can:
Libs say Bush spent us into economic problems.
Obama has spent way more than Bush.
Libs say Obama has improved our economy by spending more than Bush.
Now you know why they drink the Kool-Aid. It replaces reasoning and facts.”
oh, FFS … you don’t really use any critical thinking skills before you spew, do you>
Bush spent … ON TWO WARS AND REBUILDING IRAQ. NOT on the US.
do you see the difference?
no. you probably don’t.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:36 am
Glad I could brighten your day Jeffe. Better to laugh than cry when you know you’re about to have a knife in the back from “our Lord and Savior”.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:37 am
“Better to laugh than cry when you know you’re about to have a knife in the back from “our Lord and Savior”.”
Daniel Craig is stabbing you???
dude. you really should see somebody about your affliction.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
11:37 am
You know when it’s gonna be a good day? When you see Grover Norquist’s mug in a photo atop the news.google.com page.
heh heh heh.
Dave
November 27th, 2012
11:37 am
Reliable liberal dog squeeze once again Jay.
The state department knew in real time that there was no protest and that the embassy was under attack. The White House knew that day that what happened in Cairo was not the same thing that happened in Libya, and yet they sent Rice out 5 days later to provide a completely false narrative to the American people.
Easier to blame it on some obscure YouTube video that no one has ever seen than to blame it on a resurgent terrorist organization in a country whose dictator you helped topple. Kinda hurts the ole liberal worldview “let’s hold hands and sing Kumbaya and everything will work out” doesn’t it?
DannyX
November 27th, 2012
11:38 am
“Unemployment is up over Bush too so what does that mean Danny boy?”
That comment has about as much substance as you would get out of a month of Fox and Friends.
When Bush left office we were losing 800,000 jobs a month further crushing your claim that “Obama has given us much,much,much more of the same.” The economy has gained jobs every month for the last 2 years.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
11:38 am
I am above your intellectual level. I just come here to play with idiots like yourself who are impressed with their own self-importance. Liberal Syncophants amuse me.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
11:40 am
I am above your intellectual level.
Are you aware of all internet traditions?
GO GATORS
November 27th, 2012
11:40 am
anyone that voted for obama is stupid and uniformed, better keep an eye on your children they will probaly shoot you for your total disregard for their future
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
11:40 am
Obama didn’t spend on America, he saved the unions pensions and rewarded his Green Buddies.
Kool-Aid drinker you are.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:40 am
Corbin not so Sharpe,
Flattery will get you everywhere. Leech humor is wonderful!
DannyX
November 27th, 2012
11:40 am
“I am above your intellectual level.”
Intelligence is not measured by repeating dumb Fox News talking points.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:42 am
I am above your intellectual level … “Liberal Syncophants”
ah. the cons sure can bring the funny.
is a syncophant kinda like a bunch of elephants swimming to music or something??
Mick
November 27th, 2012
11:42 am
brosephus
Love swimming in the ocean, as a matter of fact took a dip this past sunday. Quite refreshing! The way I see it, the ocean is big enough for all, why should sharks get any special preference?
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
11:42 am
Intellect is not having your head so far up Obama’s butt with a Secular Humanistic worldview that if you sneezed, you would hit his hemorrhoids. Kool-Aid drinker.
Skip
November 27th, 2012
11:43 am
Sucks that the cons won’t participate in the on going economic recovery. I’ll bet not a one has bought a new car this year.
Dave
November 27th, 2012
11:43 am
US in UK: if you really think that massive central government spending directed by bureaucrats is the key to economic success, despite the entire history of every country on our planet as opposing evidence staring you in the face, I’m not really sure what to say to you.
Soviet Union?
Mao’s China?
Venezuela?
Cuba?
Last 20 years of Japan?
Greece?
Spain?
Portugal?
Italy?
California?
Illinois?
Think it’ll be different in the U.S.?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:43 am
“Obama didn’t spend on America, he saved the unions pensions and rewarded his Green Buddies.”
aw, bless.
here. check out where the money went all on your own:
http://www.recovery.gov/Transparency/RecoveryData/Pages/RecipientReportedDataMap.aspx?stateCode=GA&PROJSTATUS=NPC&AWARDTYPE=CGL
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
11:44 am
Loves Me Some Obama Kool Aid – “The Messiah has not delivered and the oceans aren’t receding. Epic fail so far.”
And yet your boy Romney still couldn’t beat him. Maybe you need to focus your energies on finding someone that can actually win in 2016.
Seriously?
November 27th, 2012
11:44 am
It’s okay, only four Americans died. Keep listening to Soledad and Chris read talking points and we can all sing John Lennon songs while the world crumbles.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
11:44 am
Loves — “I am above your intellectual level.”
No, you’re just a nitwit who asks himself questions in some kind of bizarro-world attempt at Socratic dialog. The first hint that you’re not all there comes from you speaking for both sides. I bet you arm-wrestle yourself, too. And LOSE.
“I just come here to play with idiots like yourself who are impressed with their own self-importance.”
I like it when clueless nitwits show up and say ‘ima badazz and i take you librulz ON.’ It just makes my day.
“Liberal Syncophants amuse me.”
Well, you let me know when you find any around here, okay Captain Pampers?
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
11:46 am
if you really think that massive central government spending directed by bureaucrats is the key to economic success
Massive government spending? I wish.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:46 am
Haha! USUK made a funny. How droll. Be careful your British is showing.
Peter
November 27th, 2012
11:46 am
Maybe FOX News can tell us why a Republican led Georgia can only graduate 2/3 of high school students ?
I guess cutting all those after school programs for the little kids never really hurt did they……Heck it got kids on the streets and taught them street cred…..
Good Job Republican’s.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:46 am
“if you really think that massive central government spending directed by bureaucrats is the key to economic success, despite the entire history of every country on our planet as opposing evidence staring you in the face, I’m not really sure what to say to you.”
thank you for the lovely … if slightly bizarre … list that you forwarded.
comparing communist countries (USSR, China, Cuba) to states (they have a massive central – by which, I’m assuming you mean federal – government??) … well, that takes “logic” to heretofore unimagined levels.
getalife
November 27th, 2012
11:47 am
Yes, let the con kooks stay the course so they end up being marginalized as kooks and know everything the right believes is dead wrong.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:48 am
“Haha! USUK made a funny. How droll. Be careful your British is showing.”
not nearly as funny as the quips you and kool-aid boy make, but, you know, a girl tries …
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
11:48 am
Woo Hoo!
The talking heads on the Trash News Channel getting exposed for being the awful human beings and Americans that they are.
I love it.
And here is to more of their successful strategy!
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
11:49 am
while the world crumbles.
zomg. it’s crumbling.
and I’M MELTING… melting…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
11:50 am
Dave — ” if you really think that massive central government spending directed by bureaucrats is the key to economic success, despite the entire history of every country on our planet as opposing evidence staring you in the face, I’m not really sure what to say to you.”
How DARE you question Blackwater and Halliburton’s no-bid contracts!
getalife
November 27th, 2012
11:51 am
I looked outside and the sky is not falling.
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
11:51 am
We all sing John Lennon songs while the GOP’s world crumbles?
You betcha!
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
11:51 am
Seriously? – “It’s okay, only four Americans died.”
Yeah, why couldn’t it be 4,000 Americans like the good old days of GW’s administration? Hell, Biden still hasn’t shot anyone in the face.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:51 am
dB – 11:49 –
found this gem this morning (been saving it for the right moment … and I think the world crumbling is it)
http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/ohdramazrb2.jpg?w=720
Scooter
November 27th, 2012
11:52 am
Jay, I see the trees you’re pointing out but am pretty sure I’m in a forest. But I was never gullible enough to believe the deaths were the result of a spontaneous protest that just happened to be on 9/11.
fair and balanced
November 27th, 2012
11:52 am
Jay – It is unfortunate you as a journalist are making all the Benghazi affair into a political issue and nothing more. I agree with the cons -it is a very serious matter but for different reasons than the cons and Fox keep portraying. FYI -Fox knew what to expect when they put Ricks on the air. Here is what he published in his blog after election day:
“”"” wonder if the jig is up for Fox: On election night they looked like they couldn’t decide whether they were a political party or a news network. That peculiar combination is no longer working. It was kind of like being in the line yesterday at Romney’s D.C. transition office to hand in your cell phones. Or, if you’re into 1962, like being at U. Miss.
On the other hand, Obama’s re-election may have helped the Fox MO. After all, it is much easier to work in opposition. You don’t have to deal with messy realities, or defend the awkward compromises that come with it, and can criticize at will. That likely will be the case come Monday, when Fox will have their memory banks adequately scrubbed. So maybe their business model is safe — despite it being built on the rubble of the national comity. “”"”"”"”" See Ricks Nov.7 blog post.
So the bigger question is why did they put him on as a military expert?
Could it be that he also posted that he did not understand why Petreaus resigned so quickly after the election and thought Petreaus was excellent as CIA director?
His flippant answer about comparing the killing of the Ambassador to the killing of defense contractors is demeaning to the four dead Americans.
The only reporter I have seen who has attempted to put the Benghazi story in some form of true perspective is Rachel Maddow who traced anti- American sentiment in Eastern Libya back to the first American Marine battle on foreign soil in 1803. Has anything really changed since then?
Largest number of insurgents in Irag came from Eastern Libya – why is that?
Why was our ambassador in a an insecure villa in Benghazi rather than in a secure consulate in Tripoli?
What was the CIA doing in Benghazi?
Why did Fox News and Paula Broadwell leak out what app-ears to be classified information from the CIA????
What was Petreaus and the GOP’s role in the leaks?
Isn’t it strange that another female wannabe who had Democratic party connections exposed Petreaus and Broadwell through the FBI???
Where are Woodward and Bernstein when we need them?
Doggone/GA
November 27th, 2012
11:53 am
“Jay – It is unfortunate you as a journalist”
If you want journalism, go to the new pages. This is an OPINION page and what you are getting is Jay’s OPINION.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:53 am
God save our gracious Queen! Long live our noble Queen! God save the Queen! Send her victorious,Happy and glorious, Long to reign over us. God save The Queen! Wannabe British leeches are hilarious! Haha!!
Alex
November 27th, 2012
11:54 am
Answer: Ralphie
Best Christmas Movie(s):
Liberal “It’s a Wonderful Life” followed closely by “scrooge”
Conservative “White Christmas”..really hard to think of one
Marc
November 27th, 2012
11:54 am
Jay when are you going to stop covering for Obama? When are you going to start being an objective journalist and look for the facts on BOTH sides?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:55 am
“It’s okay, only four Americans died.”
I just wish they could be as concerned about the nearly 10K people killed by guns every year
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state
(and, my, what a lovely shade of maroon Georgia is)
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
11:56 am
Marc – “When are you going to start being an objective journalist and look for the facts on BOTH sides?”
Uhhhh…..Hey Chief, the other side is over on Kyles blog.
Doggone/GA
November 27th, 2012
11:56 am
“When are you going to start being an objective journalist”
It’s really, really easy…if you want objective REPORTING you go to the NEWS page….you don’t go to an OPINION page.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:56 am
“Best Christmas Movie(s):
Liberal “It’s a Wonderful Life” followed closely by “scrooge””
definitely “It’s a Wonderful Life” … followed by “Holiday Inn” … and the Capt. Picard version of “Scrooge”
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
11:58 am
Mick: The way I see it, the ocean is big enough for all, why should sharks get any special preference?
Maybe because their bite is worse than their bark?
My actual rule is that I don’t swim in water where I can’t see the bottom or see quite a distant off. I also don’t wade into water beyond where I can clearly see my feet. I prefer to remain in a position of advantage when it comes to the predatory hierarchy tree.
getalife
November 27th, 2012
11:58 am
I don’t think cons know the difference between news and opinions because they are brainwashed by fox news.
Mel
November 27th, 2012
11:58 am
What a ridiculous article, full of the spin you claim is so unbecoming. Bottom line is that any news org. that leans hard one way is a detriment to it’s listeners/viewers/readers. MSNBC anyone?
Doggone/GA
November 27th, 2012
11:59 am
“and the Capt. Picard version of “Scrooge””
Yeah, that one’s not bad…but my preference is for the Muppet’s version with Michael Caine as Scrooge.
clem
November 27th, 2012
12:00 pm
nero, i ask again how long have you been a nutbar?
snoqualmiefalls
November 27th, 2012
12:00 pm
“show the ragheads wo is boss”
Ummmm. Didn’t St. Reagan go down that path in Beruit? You all must rmember when our President Reagan told the American people that he wanted to show the fighters that the Marines could handle the problem, as I remember the situation the “fighters” blew up the compound where our Marines were bivouacked, killing about 180 of our finest. St Reagan wanted our Marines to be stationed on land instead of the comfort of a war ship….. Oh well………… we sure showed them didn’t we?… BTW St. Reagan ordered the remaining Marines onto the war ships.
mm
November 27th, 2012
12:00 pm
I see the thread has digressed into stupid rightwing talking points and name calling. Later.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
12:02 pm
Jay Bookman a journalist??! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Oh God, a little pee just came out!
St Simons - aboriginal BOOTAKOOK 2014
November 27th, 2012
12:02 pm
“looks like I picked a bad century to be a con”
–Lloyd Bridges Jefferson
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:02 pm
F & B — “His flippant answer about comparing the killing of the Ambassador to the killing of defense contractors is demeaning to the four dead Americans.”
When y’all start giving a spit about all the guys who died in Iraq (when OBL was nowhere near the place), then I’ll start giving a spit about how butthurt y’all are over Benghazi.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
12:03 pm
Nero,
I asked you a question earlier. Prove to us poor Baby Boomers that we are going to get stabbed in the back. Back up your mouth with some facts. Us older folks like facts.
And as to my 401K, President Bush would have raped that for me but I saw the writing on the wall and bailed. I took a tax beating, but it wasn’t near as bad as if I had stayed in. My three houses and vehicles are all paid for. I’m still going to get two good government checks and if the taxes do go up in January, I’ll treat it like I did my military service…a patriotic duty to my country…and I’ll be happy knowing that EVERYBODY will have to pay more. Be snarky all you want to son, it’s all you got.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
12:03 pm
Doggone
Most anything with the muppets in it has an edge in my book.
Jedcvampet
November 27th, 2012
12:04 pm
An ambassador gets killed by negligence of the Obama administration, the only news organization reporting this is FOX and the idiots on this post say FoxNews is blind. I guess watergate was just a breaking? We are getting the government we deserve and when the US government fails, its government educated people and news reporters like Jay Bookman for failing to investigate the true of this administration.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
12:05 pm
Clementine,
How long have you been on the A-Train to Leechville? Get ready the ol’ rug is about to be pulled out from under you.
The truth
November 27th, 2012
12:05 pm
But we all know it was caused by the video….Sure it was.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:05 pm
USinUK — “definitely “It’s a Wonderful Life” … followed by “Holiday Inn” … and the Capt. Picard version of “Scrooge”
What, you’re not counting The Ref?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110955/
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
12:05 pm
“Yeah, that one’s not bad…but my preference is for the Muppet’s version with Michael Caine as Scrooge.”
yeah, babbee!!
Marc
November 27th, 2012
12:06 pm
Doggone/GA when you post opinions regardless of the facts, especially when it’s done by a “journalist”, it’s propaganda. Propaganda is the power of tyrants.
Atlantan
November 27th, 2012
12:06 pm
Jay said it because the MSM and Obama said it therefore I believe it…. An American is sitting in jail today because of “the film” – Hillary Clinton and Obama blamed it on the film, but apparently only Jay & the left were alive in September. 4 Americans killed – who cares???? I’ve got my Obamaphone and food stamps – Tax The Rich!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
12:06 pm
JHM – awesome movie … love Kevin Spacey and Judy Davis (and Dennis Leary is outstanding)
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
12:07 pm
Yeah, My favorite is” A Christmas Carol”..The story of a Conservative seeing the light and becoming a Liberal. Good stuff, that!
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:07 pm
Jedcvampet — “An ambassador gets killed by negligence of the Obama administration, the only news organization reporting this is FOX and the idiots on this post say FoxNews is blind. I guess watergate was just a breaking?”
It took 22 months for Nixon to leave office after the Watergate break-in, so how about you pipe down for about two years? THEN we can listen to you whine.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
12:09 pm
Boomer leeches are the scourge of this country. Take, take , and more take. Greedy Boomer leeches. Mortgage future generations to whet your greed. Sequestration can’t come fast enough.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
12:09 pm
“An American is sitting in jail today because of “the film””
ah. no. he is in jail for violating his probation.
facts are a pesky thing.
DannyX
November 27th, 2012
12:11 pm
Speaking of Christmas and Fox News, isn’t it time for the annual War on Christmas hysteria?
sandeelou
November 27th, 2012
12:11 pm
I’m thinkin’ the GOP is getting pretty tired of EATING CROW!! Couldn’t happen to a better group.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
12:13 pm
USinUK,
I have this huge jingle bell I use as a decoration that my four year old Great Grand daughter saw Monday. We are all meeting at my house Sunday to put up our outside decorations and my job is to entertain the little ones. I’m going to show “Polar Express” and see if the little one gets the bell bit. She knows my bell jingles…ought to be fun.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 27th, 2012
12:13 pm
FOX NEWS is Fair and Balanced, on the other hand, Jay Bookman(Liberal) is not!! On the third hand, as former military and law enforcement, there are dangers you constantly face over which no one has any control over. Especially, if you accept a position overseas in a foreign country.
curious
November 27th, 2012
12:13 pm
What negiligence by the Obama administration got Ambassador Stephens killed?
Did Obama order Stephens to go to Benghazi?
Why was he in Benghazi, if he knew security was so weak?
Could it be Stephens excercised poor judgment?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
12:13 pm
“Boomer leeches are the scourge of this country. Take, take , and more take”
hrm. interesting. most of them are voting GOP … http://www.nationaljournal.com/columns/political-connections/election-reinforces-divide-between-millennials-baby-boomers-20121108
Liberal Nightmare
November 27th, 2012
12:14 pm
New day, same lib nutters on Bookman blog stealing from their employer writing their liberal drivel no one reads except their heathen Bookie kin folk. That UK wanker really needs to get a life outside the Bookie blog.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
12:15 pm
Corbin – 12:13 – you are going to have a blast with the kids! get ‘em all hyped up on sugar and running around … used to love doing that with my nephews
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
12:15 pm
Nero,
Do you know what “Answer my question” means?
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
12:15 pm
Dead Clampett, good job. Your party and Rupert Murdoch need you.
And gawd help me but I do love the smell of napalmed neocons in the morning.
It is the smell of ………………………………………. victory.
November victory…
Nero
November 27th, 2012
12:16 pm
Nobody cares about your three houses or your military service old man. The gravy train is gonna come to a stop for your leech generation. We’re gonna take it back from you for the future of this country. Your messiah is gonna sell you down the river. Wait for it. It’s gonna be grand!
southern hope
November 27th, 2012
12:16 pm
I’ve started to ask businesses to turn off Fox as well….at the same time, I wouldn’t request, say, MSNBC be turned on…if they *must* show a news station, I ask for CNN or C-Span….though I’d rather watch ESPN.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
12:16 pm
Liberal Nightmare
Your 12:14 can be easily translated: You are still whining about the election.
is it true
November 27th, 2012
12:17 pm
I saw a posting on another blog that Fox News does not have a FCC license as a news station. Instead, it has a license as an entertainment news channel. Big difference. By having an entertainment news license, they are allowed more wiggle room when it comes to telling the truth. Does anyone know if this is true?
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
12:17 pm
found this gem this morning
Sorry, I’m distracted by the hawttie in the revealing outfit.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
12:18 pm
Oh GAWD, did Nero change his name again?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:18 pm
Tom — “FOX NEWS is Fair and Balanced”
And I am the Czar of all Russia.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
12:19 pm
You seem to think I actually care about leech questions. Keep riding that govt gravy train. Its gonna end. It’s gonna be wonderful!
Nero
November 27th, 2012
12:19 pm
No leech, I’m still here.
indigo
November 27th, 2012
12:20 pm
Nero
Now that you’ve flunked out of the 8th grade, we are afflicted with your brainless attempts at intelligent posting here.
Please go elsewhere and stop bothering intelligent people.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
12:20 pm
Nero,
You still haven’t answered my question. Are you not able to? Why won’t you tell me how all of this is going to happen to me? Are you just hoping or do you have facts? Come on Kid, show me what you’ve got.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
12:20 pm
“Your messiah is gonna sell you down the river. ”
Daniel Craig is going to sell us down the river??
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:21 pm
is it true — “I saw a posting on another blog that Fox News does not have a FCC license as a news station. Instead, it has a license as an entertainment news channel. Big difference. By having an entertainment news license, they are allowed more wiggle room when it comes to telling the truth. Does anyone know if this is true?”
Networks aren’t required to be licensed by the FCC. Only individual terrestrial stations are.
Besides that, there’s no such thing as an ‘FCC news license’ or an ‘FCC entertainment license.’
Do you have a friend who calls you “Mushroom?” If you do, it’s because they’re feeding you bulldada.
Alex
November 27th, 2012
12:21 pm
@ Corbin, watched Polar Express with the boys over the weekend…”Chocolate”
Gotta disagree with scrooge: My favorite is Albert Finney’s version , done in 1970-different than the rest, a musical. Try it, I have it on DVD!!!!
“War on Christmas Hysteria”,—-wait, wait, wait:there’s your sign…..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 27th, 2012
12:22 pm
Ooooooohhhh, new (old) shiny conspiracy alert for our conned:
Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli (R) told a radio host he completely agreed with her assertion that investigations are needed to determine why President Obama lost “every one” of the states with photo identification requirements for voting, yet won re-election.
Stay tuned to your batcrazy Fox channel for more whine on this one!
Nero
November 27th, 2012
12:23 pm
The retired Boomer leeches are in a tizzy! This is delicious!
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
12:24 pm
“Boomer leeches are the scourge of this country. Take, take , and more take”
hrm. interesting. most of them are voting GOP …
And the takers voted for their candidate of choice, you know, the one who 47% of the people would vote for regardless.. He’s sitting at 47.43% of the popular vote.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
12:24 pm
GAH – Ken Cuccinelli is SUCH a dick.
Atlantan
November 27th, 2012
12:25 pm
Jay and the libs won’t be happy with McCain, Graham and Ayotte now –
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/11/27/senators-troubled-after-benghazi-meeting-with-rice/?mod=WSJBlog&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&_nocache=1354036894561&user=welcome&mg=id-wsj
America deserves to know the truth. It is a shame the left in America have zero integrity or character. If it was your son who died in Libya wouldn’t you want to know exactly what happened and why? Quit being such sad sack Obama myrmidons for once and learn to think for yourself. It happened to Obama’s own chosen man (needless to say an Obama voter) it could happen to you too.
Stevie Ray
November 27th, 2012
12:25 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
11:11 am
Birth certificate…good one. Not sure how that issue is related to the Benghazi issue….Since the investigation is ongoing, it’s premature to call it over…..we will see. I guess you are saying this is put to bed..then you may not see…
Liberal Nightmare
November 27th, 2012
12:26 pm
Ah the 90 percenters – highest rates of unemployment, highest percentage of child’en born out of wedlock, high rates of crime in their hood. They keep voting “rat” and wonder why nuddin changes. Know where else in the world a candidate gets 90% of a demographics vote? Fear and ignorance combined is a powerful thing, keep buying into the fear the “rats” preach.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
12:26 pm
Bro
I saw where you posted that 47% stat the other day.
Is that the final results?
Close enough for me either way. The irony is amusing to say the least.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
12:26 pm
New day, same lib nutters on Bookman blog
Oh Mister Niiightmare…
Lib-turds – up your crack buy at the corner today – it will mellow you into a non-rioting state of mind come Wednesday.
[...]
The question on every one on the rights mind is; “how long before the first riot starts when Romney wins?”
[...]
Countdown to riot time….T minus 3 hours and counting……
How will the libs spin the rioting by their populous who votes 90% Democrat? FYI – Sharpton has already used the “d” word.
heh heh heh.
Traci
November 27th, 2012
12:27 pm
I’m not saying that Fox is necessarily right, but don’t you think it odd that the president himself would continue to promote the story that the attack on the consulate was due to outrage over a video? Why continue to maintain that story line when 1. the president knew otherwise; 2. the truth would not set well; 3. there might be something to hide. No one has yet to explain why this story came out and was maintained. Fox News is willing to ask the hard questions that others simply seem to dismiss. Knowing the truth is important and paramount.
curious
November 27th, 2012
12:27 pm
How long did it take for the truth about Pat Tillman to come out?
Who was covering up?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:27 pm
USinUK — “GAH – Ken Cuccinelli is SUCH a dick.”
He was running for something when I was doing a consulting gig in Northern VA a few years ago, and even then, people were openly referring to him as “The Cooch.”
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
12:28 pm
Someone said a few days ago that Nero was one of those personalities that craved attention so much that it didn’t matter even if the attention was negative. I’m beginning to believe it. This poor sod must have been the one in school that everybody ignored so much that they wouldn’t even give him a wedgie… I guess I’ll just start to be blissfully indifferent to his rants from now on. It’s for certain he has no aptitude for discussion or debate. He just want to be the elephant in the room…sad, that.
Tom
November 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
Fox laughs their way to the bank as more and more readers of the AJC and tv viewers turn to Fox to get their news…I almost forgot how funny Bookman could be!
DannyX
November 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
“Fox News is willing to ask the hard questions that others simply seem to dismiss.”
I like to think of Fox News as the home of “unskewed” news.
Stevie Ray
November 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
ATLANTAN
Here is link that is free…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/wp/2012/11/27/susan-rice-cia-director-meet-with-gop-critics-on-libya/?hpid=z3
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
Atlantan —
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 27th, 2012
12:30 pm
USinUK, sweet talking them like that won’t help
It will be nice to see that state go Blue eventually….
Nero
November 27th, 2012
12:30 pm
Leeches like Bocephus are gonna take it the hardest when they realize their vote turned into a double-cross. The sad and shocked faces will be the icing on the cake. I can’t wait! So excited!!
Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 27th, 2012
12:31 pm
wow:
France announced Tuesday that it plans to vote in favor of recognizing a Palestinian state at the U.N. General Assembly this week.
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
12:31 pm
“This only happened because under Obama, nobody is afraid of us anymore!” ~Charles Krauthammer
Personally, I am very afraid of Charles.
He may well be the only man alive who could star in a monster movie without make up and without changing persona.
But a scene of him choking on his own Obama-hating bile would be kinda cool for the kiddies to watch though…
Stevie Ray
November 27th, 2012
12:32 pm
Tom
November 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
You have a point…it would appear that as embarrassing as it may be, many here tune into FOX in a closet. MSNBC is no different…
Too bad the media is now news…I’m getting most of my “news” from Wash Post, BBC America and Guardian..that’s a statement.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:33 pm
S. Ray — “Birth certificate…good one. Not sure how that issue is related to the Benghazi issue…”
It’s another “issue” to those who have nothing better to offer than their efforts to somehow ‘get’ the President.
There doesn’t have to actually *be* anything there to get him on, just so long as they *think* there might be.
Y’all wasted our time with the birth certificate, and I’d wager you’re wasting our time with Benghazi, too. And spare me the crocodile tears over Ambassador Stevens; it’s apparent from the time, lives and money we wasted in Iraq that y’all are perfectly capable of overlooking far more deaths than *four* when you’re of a mind to do it.
“Since the investigation is ongoing, it’s premature to call it over…..we will see. I guess you are saying this is put to bed..then you may not see…”
Wake me up when you have something *substantial* and not bulldada, supposition and a quickened pulse, k?
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
12:33 pm
stands
One of the funniest pre-election posts to me was from a fairly regular blogger who already ever posts any links, but posted Bob Seger’s “Beautiful Loser” and dedicated it to Obama and his voters and stated the election would be a “landslide” for Romney.
He didn’t know he was actually dedicated it to himself and should have just sang the song as he looked into a mirror.
Tequila
November 27th, 2012
12:34 pm
My counter points (noted with an A) to Mr Bookman’s assertions (noted with a J)
J: No feasible level of consulate security could have saved the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team against an assault by 50 to 100 armed attackers.
A: Yet 2 men armed with small arms managed to save 30 other staff members. Amb Stevens could not be located because he was in separate room inaccessible to the rescuers. Why haven’t these people been located and questioned to get their version of events?
J: Under President Bush, seven U.S. consulates or embassies were attacked
A: Resulting in zero deaths or injuries to embassy personnel. All deaths/injuries were to civilians on the outside of the compounds mostly due to explosives used by the terrorists.
J: The closest AC-130 was 2,500 miles away,
A: There were other aircraft in the area that could have provided a show of force and if necessary air support. The Navy and Air Force have a lot of tools at their disposal.
J: The Special Forces units in question
A: While Special Forces are the go to guys there was an Airborne unit in Italy that was available and capable as well as a Marine unit just off shore on the Navy ships. Either one could have provided some boots on the ground, instead a conscience decision was made to not use them. Who made that decision?
As far as Amb Rice’s comments, she was either willfully ignorant, very poorly informed or set up to be fall guy with her ridiculous comments. Saying someone is incompetent is not racist either.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
12:36 pm
Corbin is now butt hurt that I wasn’t impressed with his three houses and his “military” service. Boomer leeches always have the saddest faces. Maybe you should sell one of your houses to pay your new taxes that are coming. Haha!!! Boomer leeches are squirming!! You can’t buy entertainment like this!!
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
12:36 pm
They BOTH
I think there are still votes being counted. From what I’ve heard from the chatterboxes, they think Romney’s gonna finish around 47.1% when everything’s finalized. I think it’s both funny as hell and karma biting him in the ass.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
12:37 pm
“people were openly referring to him as “The Cooch.””
considering that’s where the majority of his focus has been since taking office, I’m not surprised.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
12:38 pm
Jam
That is the same Charles Krauthammer who after the 2004 elections claimed Bush had a mandate, but know says that Obama after winning more EC votes than Bush and winning by a larger popular vote margin doesn’t have a mandate.
Personally I could careless about “mandates”, but is worth nothing in terms of Charles Krauthammer and some of his loony statements.
Hope you had a good holiday weekend.
Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 27th, 2012
12:38 pm
Tequila, don’t let go of the hope!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
12:39 pm
so, Nero.
middle schooler?
or coke-head?
because I haven’t seen anyone this hopped up since … well … the infamous “I’m winning” interview.
Partisay
November 27th, 2012
12:40 pm
“If it was your son who died in Libya wouldn’t you want to know exactly what happened and why?”
There are alot more parents asking the same thing about Iraq…
DannyX
November 27th, 2012
12:41 pm
“This only happened because under Obama, nobody is afraid of us anymore!” ~Charles Krauthammer”
I felt a lot safer under George W. That big wet kiss he planted on the lips of that Saudi prince struck fear into the evil Muslim terrorist world.
clem
November 27th, 2012
12:41 pm
nero, i don’t need mortgage deduction…..and how long have you been a nutbar?
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
12:41 pm
Leeches like Bocephus are gonna take it the hardest when they realize their vote turned into a double-cross.
I always knew there was something about Hank Williams Jr and his full on support for the GOP.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:42 pm
USinUK — “considering that’s where the majority of his focus has been since taking office, I’m not surprised.”
You saw EXACTLY where I was going with that. Nicely done!
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
12:43 pm
Finn
Or as Jam so eloquently phrases it:
“Keep Hopelessness Alive”
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
12:44 pm
JHM – yep – I took the baton across the finish line
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:44 pm
TBS — “Personally I could careless about “mandates”, but is worth nothing in terms of Charles Krauthammer and some of his loony statements. ”
Chuckles Krauthammer is like the opposite of Professor X in the X-Men. Both of them use wheelchairs, but Professor X is a telepath whereas Krauthammer’s head is so far up his butt that he only ever sees daylight via tunnel vision.
clem
November 27th, 2012
12:45 pm
nero, clean up aisle 5
getalife
November 27th, 2012
12:46 pm
The end of the right in America is here.
No credibility, no hope and no more.
Good riddance.
Dum-Bass
November 27th, 2012
12:47 pm
Too bad your opinions don’t mean “squat”, Bookman. You’re just a $5 an hour “low boy on the totem pole” AJC writer. What you say carries no credibility whatsoever. BTW, anybody ever watch Susan Rice walk? Seriously is she a woman? Think they should play “Walk Like a Man” when she enters the stage each time. Also bet she is a huge supporter of the GBLT movement!
paulo977
November 27th, 2012
12:47 pm
Nero …..re your”gravy train ‘” rant
_________________________________________
Hmmmmmmmm are you on Mars?
http://government.fatnewt.com/government-services
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
12:48 pm
Bro @ 12:41
Great catch and comeback
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 27th, 2012
12:48 pm
It matters NOT……..how many mere mortals whose lives are snuffed out.
.
As long as “The One” and Hillery Clinton’s political lives are not threatened………all is well.
.
sick
Leigh
November 27th, 2012
12:48 pm
Mr. Bookman, you have conveniently neglected to mention that the Obama Administration told the public that a spontaneous protest about a You Tube video was the cause of the attack for about 2 weeks. This material omission on your part makes your analysis faulty. We had drones, surveillance cameras, and eyewitness accounts that there was no spontaneous protest. Perhaps Ambassador Rice did not know there were no protest, but someone in the Obama Administration made the decision to lie to the public. There was no reason to make up a story. The public would have been satisfied with a simple “we are investigating what happened.” Since the the majority of the mainstream media refuses to hold Obama accountable for his actions, we should be thankful that there’s at least one network willing to ask questions. You come off as a mouthpiece for the Adminstration, excusing its intentional lies. Sheeple, anyone?
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
November 27th, 2012
12:49 pm
However, the best indication of how completely the Fox narrative has collapsed comes from recent events on Capitol Hill. Sen. John McCain, who had heatedly pledged that “I will do everything in my power to block (Rice) from being the United States’ secretary of State,” has backed off that pledge and in fact is meeting with Rice today. Sen. Lindsey Graham, who had charged that Rice had disqualified herself from consideration, has also changed his tone and is also meeting with Rice today.
Might check AOL headlines for this one Jay Boy!
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:49 pm
D. Bass — “Too bad your opinions don’t mean “squat”, Bookman.”
Is your real name Todd?
‘Cause if it is, we could call you Dum-Bass Todd.
Donovan
November 27th, 2012
12:50 pm
Hussein: You give elitists a bad name.
A liberal trying to school me on military weapons is not a good idea. An AC-130 has multiple gun systems besides the 105 howitzer. Look it up sometime. This aircraft has better capability to do more precise targeting than most in a dense environment. That’s what it does best.
By the way…its 105 does a wonderful job on houses and its mini-guns excel in dropping any squirters.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
12:50 pm
Aww USUK is now mad. Boomer leeches are gathering the pitchforks and torches.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
12:51 pm
Too bad your opinions don’t mean “squat”, Bookman.
Is there a specific name for people who believe that quotation marks are supposed to be used to indicate emphasis?
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
12:51 pm
BOTH, back at ya and yours with the warm holiday wishes.
Like most of those disgusting Faux News rats, Krauthammer is a horrible human being. At least in the hateful guise he profits from.
I’m just basking in the glow of his and the GOP’s beat down three weeks ago. Talk about a crushing defeat for right wing madness and incompetence.
Awesome. Way to go America!
And I really do suspect that the neocons are still b*tching stupidly about Benghazi simply because they are still so highly p*ssed off that Osama bin Laden is dead…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
12:51 pm
What, you’re not counting The Ref?
Abso-freakin’-lutely.
The mostest bestest and funniest holiday movie ever!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
12:52 pm
“Aww USUK is now mad. Boomer leeches are gathering the pitchforks and torches.”
wow. coke-head AND asbergers.
interesting combo.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
12:52 pm
Nero, is your mother a boomer?
just wondering why you seem so angry at a… demographic.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
12:53 pm
I mean, I guess there might be valid reasons why someone would just get nutty about Americans born between 1945 and 1964, but I can’t really think of any.
bookman parrot
November 27th, 2012
12:54 pm
all your spinnings jay, still don’t remove the fact that BHO is the least transparent president and has so many questionable/disconcerting ties and so many unknowns … yet the libs don’t care and go merrily on
getalife
November 27th, 2012
12:55 pm
The right committed political suicide under President Obama.
They will lose a generation of voters but it is never a good idea for one party to control all three branches and President Obama will have a rubber stamp congress for his last two years.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:55 pm
Donovan — “Hussein: You give elitists a bad name.”
Better than the name you’re giving *your* ideological compatriots.
“A liberal trying to school me on military weapons is not a good idea.”
Eat it. Lick it. Suck on it. Savor it on the way down. The more you complain about it, the more you shall receive.
“An AC-130 has multiple gun systems besides the 105 howitzer. Look it up sometime.”
I’m well aware of the various weapons loadouts of the primary combatant C-130 variants, and I made no claim that a 105mm was the *only* weapon aboard, your stupid and presumptious response notwithstanding.
“This aircraft has better capability to do more precise targeting than most in a dense environment. That’s what it does best.”
It does *not,* however, have the ability to do the sort of surgical strikes that would be necessary in a suburban civilian neighborhood.
“By the way…its 105 does a wonderful job on houses and its mini-guns excel in dropping any squirters.”
And if you’re too ignorant to see the problem with that, then you’re too ignorant to be listened to on this issue any longer.
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
12:55 pm
“a majority of the American people really did want to re-elect Barack Obama as their president.”
Saying a majority of the people “really” did want to re-elect Barack Obama as their president” is a supposition. The fact is less people voted for him then they did in 08 and the national popular vote wasn’t sufficient enough to declare a mandate. As for Benghazi the contradicting narrative from the White House and state department was at best incompetence and at worst intentional deceit. The failure to provide adequate security after several requests and while justified based on the prior attacks was inexcusable. The MSM ignored this unfortunate loss of American life and that’s is just plain unprofessional journalism if not unAmerican on the part of a largely far-left news media.
Mick
November 27th, 2012
12:56 pm
brosephus
I must admit, the crystal clear miami ocean is to my advantage. Any large grey moving blob will be seen. Still, after forty plus years of swimming at the same beach, I’ve yet to see one. I guess my odds are narrowing on that front…
Fred ™
November 27th, 2012
12:56 pm
So are the FOXBOTS and talk radio indoctrinated idiots spamming the same old mantra?
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
12:57 pm
They BOTH
He sets them up, and we merely tee them off.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:57 pm
B. Parrot — “yet the libs don’t care and go merrily on”
Of *course* we care. He gives y’all FITS, and we LOVE it!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
12:57 pm
401k’s to be taxed?
drudgey spam
Leigh
November 27th, 2012
12:57 pm
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Jay Bookman
The Benghazi narrative spun by Fox now in ruins
9:33 am November 27, 2012, by Jay
For at least a few conservatives, Election Night opened eyes about the danger of confining yourself to the right-wing information echo chamber. Because out here in the real world, as opposed to ConservaWorld, it turned out that the polls weren’t skewed, Mitt Romney wasn’t surging and a majority of the American people really did want to re-elect Barack Obama as their president.
Those who had relied on Fox “News” for their information were prepared for none of that.
To my mind, though, the utter collapse of the Fox narrative regarding the attacks on our consulate in Benghazi should be at least as instructive for those who are willing to see things as they are, rather than how they wish them to be. For more than two months, the network and those in Washington who follow its lead tried to create a firestorm of controversy regarding Benghazi, but time and again, as facts came to light, each right-wing claim about Benghazi was exposed as false and inflammatory.
Let’s review the litany, shall we?
“It never would have happened if consulate security had been bolstered as requested!”
No feasible level of consulate security could have saved the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team against an assault by 50 to 100 armed attackers.
“This only happened because under Obama, nobody is afraid of us anymore!” As Charles Krauthammer slickly phrased the argument on Fox, “these are the fruits of apology and retreat and lack of confidence in our own principles.”
Under President Bush, seven U.S. consulates or embassies were attacked, including those in Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia and Syria, with considerable loss of life. But unlike Benghazi, none of those attacks became the pretext for crass partisanship.
“They refused to bring in the AC-130 gunships that could have saved the ambassador.”
The closest AC-130 was 2,500 miles away, in Afghanistan.
“They had Special Forces units sitting there in Italy ready to intervene but instead the cowards just watched our people die!”
The Special Forces units in question did not arrive in Italy until several hours after the attacks had ended, and were never in position to have played a role.
“UN Ambassador Susan Rice lied to the American people, and by doing so disqualified herself from consideration to become secretary of State.”
Rice accurately communicated to the American people the best, most current information as assembled by our intelligence community. There is no evidence that the intel assessment was altered for partisan political reasons, and former CIA Director David Petraeus and current Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper have informed Congress of that fact.
However, the best indication of how completely the Fox narrative has collapsed comes from recent events on Capitol Hill. Sen. John McCain, who had heatedly pledged that “I will do everything in my power to block (Rice) from being the United States’ secretary of State,” has backed off that pledge and in fact is meeting with Rice today. Sen. Lindsey Graham, who had charged that Rice had disqualified herself from consideration, has also changed his tone and is also meeting with Rice today.
I think this contradicts your argument:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/27/gop-senators-susan-rice_n_2198255.html?1354035161&ncid=webmail1
Dawg Man
November 27th, 2012
12:58 pm
Jay, you write & complain about the right leaning news programs & right wing columnists that try to creat “firestorms” yet when do you ever write about the “firestorms” left leaning news programs (more of those than right leaning) & left leaning columnists create?
Wait! Let me guess. Left-wing news programs & left-wing columnists NEVER create firestorms they just tell the truth, the whole truth, & nothing but the truth?
Sure do wish columnists (left & right…includes you Jay!) & news programs would just give facts…the real facts not the ones they make up in their head.
Fred ™
November 27th, 2012
12:58 pm
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
12:55 pm
“a majority of the American people really did want to re-elect Barack Obama as their president.”
Saying a majority of the people “really” did want to re-elect Barack Obama as their president” is a supposition. The fact is less people voted for him then they did in 08 and the national popular vote wasn’t sufficient enough to declare a mandate. As for Benghazi the contradicting narrative from the White House and state department was at best incompetence and at worst intentional deceit. The failure to provide adequate security after several requests and while justified based on the prior attacks was inexcusable. The MSM ignored this unfortunate loss of American life and that’s is just plain unprofessional journalism if not unAmerican on the part of a largely far-left news media.
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Keep repeating your FOXBOT lies and spewing hate.
You lost.
Your FOXBOT conceived ideals were shown the door.
Most Americans think which is why your FOXBOT ideals were defeated.
Get over it.
larry
November 27th, 2012
12:59 pm
It has been forgotten that there were protests over the video in 22 different countries, including England. It has also been forgotten that on the morning of the 11th, the 2nd in comand of AQ in Yeman was killed by a drone strike.
The G.O.P has been looking and trying for their ” Watergate” for the last 38 years. I guess they will keep looking.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:59 pm
Recon — “the national popular vote wasn’t sufficient enough to declare a mandate.”
Tell Dick Cheney that.
By his announced standard in 2004, Obama’s 2012 mandate FAR outstrips the puny “mandate” that Cheney claimed Bush won in 2004.
Key Takeaway — Don’t talk smack unless you want the smack to be visited upon YOU in the future.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
1:00 pm
“Landlside” Recon
And people less voted for Romney than McCain. So what is your point?
We can spin numbers all day. In the end, Romney was unable to beat a mediocre President. Heck in your mind, Obama isn’t even mediocre, so might be best to look internal at the party and who they nominated.
‘
That is on Romney and his team. Everything else is an excuse.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
1:00 pm
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
12:36 pm
“they think Romney’s gonna finish around 47.1% when everything’s finalized.”
And they say there is no justice in the world…
Nero
November 27th, 2012
1:01 pm
I say give the leeches all three branches of govt. Let the stink get so bad that this country and it’s leeches choke on it. It’s always darkest before the sun rises. We need to crawl some more before we can stand up and walk again. The leeches can own it.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
1:01 pm
“Landslide”
“And less people…………….”
excuse me
Mick
November 27th, 2012
1:02 pm
joe
**Key Takeaway — Don’t talk smack unless you want the smack to be visited upon YOU in the future.**
Bullseye!!!
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
1:03 pm
Mick
I remember seeing overhead footage some years back of a duo on a jetski. The newspeople were wondering if they were aware of the number of sharks that were in the water around them. The water they were riding in looked polka dotted with all the blobs under them.
—————
So are the FOXBOTS and talk radio indoctrinated idiots spamming the same old mantra?
With such pinpoint precision, you would think they all design GPS or laser guided munitions.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
1:03 pm
Bro
When the “Change Ups” don’t change and the “Curves” don’t curve, they usually get sent over the outfield wall.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
1:03 pm
A liberal trying to school me on military weapons is not a good idea.
Awww, it’s another one of our armchair generals. Y’all are so cute when you play dress-up like the big boys.
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
1:04 pm
Leigh, you conveniently forgot to tell us that Mr. Romney blamed our Americans overseas for sympathizing with their murderers.
Incredible.
It was easily one of the most despicable and outrageously stupid statements that I have EVER seen a party’s nominee for President of the United States of America make.
Why do you think he got crushed, steamrolled and annihilated three weeks ago? (Along with a bunch of the worst of the worst of the Republicans from Florida to Indiana to Virginia to Missouri to Illinois.)
Three words…
Unfit to lead.
That you rubes actually voted for that fraud is remarkable…
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
1:04 pm
So are the FOXBOTS and talk radio indoctrinated idiots spamming the same old mantra?
Yeah,but it is getting slow now. lol
guy
November 27th, 2012
1:04 pm
It was a terrorist attack and why was it not brought out to begin with? I don’t understand why not tell it like it. obama and the gang would have done nothing about it anyway, and with the liberal media on their side, it’s perfectly ok. No matter what side of the fence we are on,all these shady things will come back to haunt us. What we think as average citizens means nothing,liberal or conservative. I am not at all taking up for the Bush people but can you imagine the uproar if this had happened under their watch? We are ALL in the dark and we can do nothing about it but vent,complain,and argue.
Jay
November 27th, 2012
1:07 pm
“I am not at all taking up for the Bush people but can you imagine the uproar if this had happened under their watch?”
It did happen under their watch, Guy. It happened seven times under their watch, and no uproar.
(And then there was that eighth time, on Sept. 11.)
you can't fix stupid or Democrats
November 27th, 2012
1:07 pm
Bookman the liberal press reminds me of German press at end of WWII telling the people what a great leader they had. The press can not make him( obama) into a god or a good president no matter how you all try.
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
1:07 pm
Who was covering up (Tillman’s death from friendly fire)?
The Pentagon.
getalife
November 27th, 2012
1:07 pm
del has never been right about anything.
His batting average is .000 but that is the average of all the cons.
Always dead wrong.
Mick
November 27th, 2012
1:07 pm
brosephus
When it comes to the ocean, you’ve got to have some attitude about it. Surfers have it, I have it, the unknown is always there. Hell, you can trip and fall down the stairs and break your neck or more likely be hit by lightning in florida. We are not in their food chain and at 6′ 2″, I’m a pretty threatening blob myself to them…
On another note, send us bama and nick satan for an unholy homecoming!!!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
1:08 pm
Oh — and our new troll Nero?
I suspect he’s the old troll USMC.
Both are unnaturally needy.
guy
November 27th, 2012
1:08 pm
Should have been tell it like it is
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
1:08 pm
They BOTH
Tref
November 27th, 2012
1:09 pm
The trouble with all the lame stream media is they can’t just give us the facts. They also have to tell us what they think the facts should mean. Jeez. I can form my own opinion. I don’t listen to news anymore regardless of the network because they think they have to tell me what to think about the news. But then again, I guess I understand why they do that. I am a retired educator with 30+ years experience and I’ve seen how the American student has been fed information to only pass a damned test. There is no longer any time for critical thinking and application of facts, ideas and skills learned. “We have met the enemy and he is us”…Pogo
guy
November 27th, 2012
1:10 pm
Jay, like I said we can only argue about things we can’t change. Rave on people!!!!!!! Go for it!!!!
mister.earl
November 27th, 2012
1:11 pm
Fox News Called Landslide For Romney
Tom Ricks, author and Pulitzer prize winner who has reported for the Washington Post, lambasted Fox News’s coverage of the Benghazi attacks in an interview with the conservative network on Monday. Ricks, who has written extensively on the American military, called the Fox an “operating as a wing of Republican Party” that “hyped” the Benghazi attack as a faux-scandal.
During the interview, which lasted only a minute and 45 seconds, Ricks responded to a loaded question with a remark that surprised the anchor:
JON SCOTT (HOST): Senator John McCain said in the past he would block any attempt to nominate Susan Rice to become U.N. — I’m sorry, Secretary of State. She’s currently the U.N. ambassador. He seems to be backing away from that. What do you make of it?
RICKS: I think that Benghazi generally was hyped, by this network especially, and that now that the campaign is over, I think he’s backing off a little bit. They’re not going to stop Susan Rice from being secretary of state.
Alex
November 27th, 2012
1:11 pm
@Jam: “warm holiday wishes” add horrible human being, crushing defeat, b*tching stupidity…..”warm holiday wishes”, uhuh…….You and Chris Mathews exchanging cards this year?
mister.earl
November 27th, 2012
1:12 pm
Cable Bill: $37.00
Caramel Popcorn $4.20
Watching Fox News Cut To Break ASAP: Priceless
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
1:12 pm
RAVE ON!
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
1:12 pm
On another note, send us bama and nick satan for an unholy homecoming!!!
I am looking forward to a 20 year reunion of the 1992 National Championship team. I think it would be fitting to bring them out on the field in Miami to recognize their 1993 Sugar Bowl win over the Univ of Miami.
Besides, Nick needs to cement his place in Tide folklore along Bear Bryant. I’m hoping they keep Kirby Smart to take over when Nick steps down.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
1:13 pm
Kam
Outside of the breitbart, blaze and newsmax spam, you might be correct.
Fred ™
November 27th, 2012
1:13 pm
you can’t fix stupid or Democrats
November 27th, 2012
1:07 pm
Bookman the liberal press reminds me of German press at end of WWII telling the people what a great leader they had. The press can not make him( obama) into a god or a good president no matter how you all try.
+++++++++++++++++++
ANd the stupidity and lies of the FOXBOTS couldn’t get Romney elected.
Game, Set, Match.
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
1:15 pm
I suspect he’s the old troll USMC
I don’t know bout that Kam.USMC doesn’t seem like the type to be using a sock puppet.But I could be wrong.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
1:15 pm
USMC – if you check in
While I hope and think they lose to the Dawgs, I tried to tell you about Notre Dame, but you just wouldn’t listen.
Well the Dawgs do have to beat the defending National Champs before that happens. If it does happen, then all I can say is go SEC.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
1:16 pm
BOTH
That was the tip-off.
He’s no longer providing the links, but he’s spouting off the headlines.
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
1:16 pm
TBS,
My point is that this a divided country whereby Obama and the Democrats do not enjoy a clear popular mandate. In my opinion as I indicated Obama has not been an effective president and his style is either a result of an intrinsic lack of competency or a lack of personal integrity. Benghazi is an example in spite of the spin attempts.
Kujohn
November 27th, 2012
1:17 pm
Fox News is the new Comedy Central Hannitty should be a drinking game Every time he says
Benghazi drink
Throw granny off the cliff. Drink
Bill ayers. Drink
And his new one for the Xmas season
They wanna kill Santa. Drink
Don’t forget everyone’s favorite comedian. Sarah palin
Giving advice on foreign policy From her hideaway in Alaska over looking Russia
Nero
November 27th, 2012
1:17 pm
Kamchump has spoken. All hail the thug leech. Sorry to disappoint you “sport”. Long time lurker getting my feet wet. Bookman sycophants are so paranoid. Is your need for Bookman’s approval that bad?
Fred ™
November 27th, 2012
1:18 pm
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
1:16 pm
TBS,
My point is that this a divided country whereby Obama and the Democrats do not enjoy a clear popular mandate. In my opinion as I indicated Obama has not been an effective president and his style is either a result of an intrinsic lack of competency or a lack of personal integrity. Benghazi is an example in spite of the spin attempts.
++++++++++++++++++++++
Yes, despite your lame attempts to spin it into a story, no one but the braindead FOXBOTS is buying it.
You lost, be a man and get over it.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
1:18 pm
“I’m hoping they keep Kirby Smart to take over when Nick steps down.”
Depending on Saban’s plans that might be tough if Smart wants to be a head coach. Texas was trying with Muschamp.
Smart is paid well, but will be hard to turn down the money he would be offered if he wants to “run a program”.
Mick
November 27th, 2012
1:18 pm
**I think it would be fitting to bring them out on the field in Miami to recognize their 1993 Sugar Bowl win over the Univ of Miami.**
That one hurt – bigtime!!! Sabadoes not have many fans down here the way he left the jinxed dolphins. the fins have been lost in the bermuda triangle for decades and the canes have been no better.
It’s been a football famine and I’ve drifted away from the game.
Yes, that’s what a fair weather miami fan does until it’s time to jump on the bandwagon, then we are number one…
getalife
November 27th, 2012
1:19 pm
Psst, cons.
We have moved on from Benghazi.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
1:20 pm
My point is that this a divided country whereby Obama and the Democrats do not enjoy a clear popular mandate.
I wish some of y’all would see a proctologist about your post-election butthurt. It’s obviously quite painful.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 27th, 2012
1:21 pm
As for Benghazi the contradicting narrative from the White House and state department was at best incompetence and at worst intentional deceit.
Well I see the Queen of Factiness has spoken.
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
1:21 pm
ANd the stupidity and lies of the FOXBOTS couldn’t get Romney elected.
Plus Romney was his own worst enemy also Fred.
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm
Atlantan – “If it was your son who died in Libya wouldn’t you want to know exactly what happened and why?”
I’m sure there are 4,000 families that would like the same answer in regard to Iraq.
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm
“You lost, be a man and get over it.”
I’m my own man and I guess that must be difficult for you to understand.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm
Recon
It has been a “divided country” for sometime. Nothing new.
Were you saying the same when Cheney and numerous pundits on the right were speaking of mandates in 04?
Remember Bush speaking of elections having consequences and having earned political capital that he planned to use. Are you ok with Obama having that same mindset?
Again, mandates to me are more talk than anything because any President must work with Congress.
I just find it funny and ironic that some of the same folks who touted mandates in 04 or were ok with others touting it, are not to pleased now that the shoe is on the other foot.
GM
November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm
I thought journalist were supposed to be objective and not take a stance.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm
In other news, Sandra Fluke Is The Rosa Parks Of Vaginas.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
1:23 pm
Real Scootter
Lots of new names with old faces here.
Lots of old faces made embarrassing election predictions and don’t have the balls to appear in their old guises.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
1:23 pm
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
1:20 pm
Their but hurt is just the direct cause of having their head up their azz.
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
1:23 pm
We have moved on from Benghazi
Psst getalife,tell that to Jay.He started it!!!! lol
getalife
November 27th, 2012
1:23 pm
I do love slow news days.
No scandals, no losing occupations and no economic collapses.
That is what I voted for.
Fred ™
November 27th, 2012
1:24 pm
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm
“You lost, be a man and get over it.”
I’m my own man and I guess that must be difficult for you to understand
+++++++++++++++++++++
Considering the fact that all you do is quote the FOXBOT/Talk radio mantra, yes it IS hard to “understands” as it makes no sense whatsoever.
oh, I know, Fox follows YOU around with a mic so they know what to say…………..
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
1:24 pm
Real Scooter @ 1:23
That was pretty funny.
guy
November 27th, 2012
1:24 pm
If you all will read what Fred posted @ 1:13 p.m. there is nothing to add.Finally,someone who tells the truth! GAME.SET.MATCH (Jay,you’ve been overshadowed but I’m sure you will find something to stir up the crowd again.) Cynthia,Cynthia,and Jay! WOW!
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
1:24 pm
They BOTH
Smart’s had the opportunity to jump ship before, but he stayed. I think (and hope) that it’s because he has the lead on taking over when Nick steps down. I honestly didn’t think Saban would still be around now when he first got hired on.
—————
Mick
I hate to bring that one up, but I remember how almost every talking head thought that Miami’s speed would lead them to victory over Bama that year.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
1:25 pm
Recon — “My point is that this a divided country whereby Obama and the Democrats do not enjoy a clear popular mandate.”
Denied.
Clear majority of both popular and electoral votes for President. Majority in the Senate. And no sitting House Democrat lost their seat. PLUS, Democratic House candidates garnered more votes nationwide than Republican House candidates did.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-16/republicans-can-t-declare-mandate-with-more-democrat-house-votes.html
The fact of the matter is that while this country is certainly divided, it’s divided in the same way your Thanksgiving turkey’s wishbone is. And your side’s holding the *little* piece of the wishbone.
Mick
November 27th, 2012
1:25 pm
**Benghazi is an example in spite of the spin attempts.**
Try as you might, that dog won’t hunt. No matter who is president, events will happen that will be beyond their control, it’s inevitable. Who really can say what’s fair? Reagan lost 230 marines and did NOTHING but leave. Your judgement seems to be working overtime in trying to indict obama on something, anything. Just don’t give him any credit at all for getting bin laden and keeping us safe…
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
1:25 pm
if you agree with the assertion @ 1.22, you can let Time Magazine know about it:
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2128881_2128882_2129176,00.html
Fred ™
November 27th, 2012
1:25 pm
GM
November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm
I thought journalist were supposed to be objective and not take a stance.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
What an insipid comment. Jay is an OPINION writer. This is an OPINION blog. Are you really this stupid?
getalife
November 27th, 2012
1:25 pm
“Psst getalife,tell that to Jay.He started it!!!! lol”
Slow news day.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
1:28 pm
Getaleech,
Be patient. It’s coming. You can’t very well expect to be stabbed in the back before he’s sworn in for his second term. Silly leeches. Your disappointment narrative is still being compiled.
Mick
November 27th, 2012
1:28 pm
brosephus
No problem on that, miami was simply outcoached and more importantly, outplayed… being the most arrogant team on the field doesn’t guarantee a win…
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
1:29 pm
Now this is funny…
http://cheezburger.com/6795567872
getalife
November 27th, 2012
1:29 pm
nero,
You remind me of birthers.
One trick pony .
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
1:30 pm
“I honestly didn’t think Saban would still be around now when he first got hired on.”
Success and 5M or whatever per year helps one stay grounded in even during high “Tide”
Will be interesting to see if he tries the NFL again. That is a hard jump for most and he has a great gig at Bama.
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
1:30 pm
Lots of old faces made embarrassing election predictions and don’t have the balls to appear in their old guises.
I’m sure you are right about that Kam but wasn’t it USMC that came here a few days after the election to eat some crow? And may be I’m thinking of someone else.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
1:30 pm
For those keeping score at home, the Daily Caller is now officially butthurt over Time Magazine so much as considering Sandra “Rosa Parks of Vaginas” Fluke as Person of the Year.
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
1:32 pm
GM – “I thought journalist were supposed to be objective and not take a stance.”
They are, but OPINION writers such as Jay have more leeway.
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
1:33 pm
I see that “Joseph” has found a new IP address or name under which to post. I’m sure you are all aware of who I’m talking about.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
1:34 pm
Getaleech,
You remind me of Boomer retiree greed.
Rabbit
November 27th, 2012
1:35 pm
This was (hold, on. let me catch my breath) a pretty good post, Jay. Rice (stifled laughter) didn’t exactly shoot it straight, but she did what she was supposed to do to save US lives. (Gulps for breath) But I really can’t talk right now. I am still bent over laughing about the Tom Ricks video you posted last night.
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
1:35 pm
alex (or is it Alex?),
No warm wishes for you. (But no cold ones either!)
I’m stoked.
Nebraska is playing for a BIG 10 Championship. (And I’m going to the game in Indy this Saturday night!)
And the right wing lunatics here are in complete meat shambles after yet another November trouncing…
Life is good.
Keep Hopelessness Alive.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
1:36 pm
JHM @ 1:25
Good point. Gerrymandering (redistricting) which both parties love to do in attempts to stay in power, played a significant role for House Republicans a few weeks ago. Their 2010 victories certainly played a role on that front.
However, when looking at demographic trends, those advantages at the district level are evaporating in certain states. It will take a few more election cycles, but the demographic trends in certain states will surely overcome the gerrymandering.
Will be interesting to see how the Republicans play the 2014 mid terms, seeing that they know these trends as well or better than I can see them.
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
1:36 pm
Thanks TBS but I think JHM got me with his 1:25,that was just too funny!
muchshalom
November 27th, 2012
1:36 pm
Any journalistic attention to obtaining facts was driven by Fox–and the need for such was created by government lies.
Even at this point you seem more obsessed with Fox News than any concern that the nation deserves to know about it’s governments’ activities around the globe. And just for starters–it is your assertion that we have now been told the truth about the CIA’s mission in Libya, who all the players were in the attack, and why we are being attacked?
Shameful behavior by Fox only puts a huge exclamation mark behind the utter failure of journalism as this nation and government have ramped up a huge covert, intelligence operation that in the end will oppress————————-you.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
1:38 pm
The pro-criminalization folks at “lifenews” are also butthurt over Fluke, according to WingNut Deli.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
1:38 pm
Jam
That is cool that you are going to the game in Indy. While I wont be at the SEC game this year, I have been to numerous ones in the past dating back to when they started in Birmingham.
Conference Championships ( a great tradition started by the SEC).
YouLibs
November 27th, 2012
1:38 pm
Yeah, Kam, sounds like USMC to me, too.
Locker
November 27th, 2012
1:39 pm
It’s so funny to me how conservatives still love and defend Fox News when the network and it’s analysts and favorite pollsters got EVERYTHING wrong on the Presidential election. It wasn’t even a mistake or an accident, it was deliberately misinformation delivered in such a successful manner the right siders were SHOCKED by the results.
This is what happens when you isolate yourself in an echo chamber who’s only goal is to reinforce your prejudices while hiding as much actual information as possible which conflicts. The main stream media beats the stuffing out of Fox every time when it comes to news.
weetamoe
November 27th, 2012
1:40 pm
Media Matters has been working overtime on this, even attacking a teenager who defended Fox’s coverage on the grounds that no other *news* organization was doing the traditional job of holding the administration responsible. Obama did his grave dances and victory struts, and al Qaeda, which has by no means been decimated, let him know they are not *on the run* by their shouts of Obama, we are all Osama now. So saith the Libyan pres (isn’t he one of our Libyans now?). I should think that in addition to lying to protect her boss, the very very worst thing Rice ever did (besides the Rwanda and Sudan stuff under Clinton) was to give the finger to the late sainted very left wing Richard Holbrooke. Naughty girl!
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
1:41 pm
dB
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
1:41 pm
Good afternoon Corbin Sharpe Sir!!
It took me a while to figure out who you are(or were).
muchshalom
November 27th, 2012
1:41 pm
I’m sure glad I don’t visit this news site’s comment section often. If you folk don’t realize it–there are all kinds of social media other than news websites to banter about nothing. Does Atlanta have contaminated water–or what??
TiredOfIt
November 27th, 2012
1:41 pm
Nero,
Its time for you to light the garden torches.
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
1:42 pm
TBS,
This is not 04 this is 4th. Qtr. 012 and we have excessive unemployment, weak GDP growth a 16 trillion dollar deficit that’s growing each day and a world situation on the brink of war not to mention a significant number of people who’re committed to our destruction as a nation. Now in addition to these rather serious issues we have a president that based on pandering symbolism to his far-left base wants to raise taxes on those earning over 250K annually, which will account for 802 billion dollars over 10 years. Broken down annually that increased revenue would fund the the federal government for 8 days. This president purports to have drawn a line in the sand on this paltry increase in the face of a looming fiscal disaster in about one more month. The Democrats can thump their chest and do victory dances but it’s time to wear long trousers and it doesn’t seem the left gets that message.
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
1:43 pm
stands, perhaps Sandra Fluke and Rush Limbaugh could share the Person/Slut/Prostitute of the Year Award.
Because they both had a big hand in the recent GOP thumping!
Women voters – 55% for BHO and 44% for WMR.
The cons have probably lost the female vote in this country forever. How righteous is that?!
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
1:43 pm
Media Matters has been working overtime on this, even attacking a teenager
yeah, I learned about the recent butthurt-over-Media-Matters riff whilst perusing this butthurt over Fluke outlet.
East Lake Ira
November 27th, 2012
1:44 pm
Huntsman continues to show why he should’ve been the first Morman nominated: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/27/jon-huntsman-benghazi-susan-rice_n_2198698.html?1354040812
Thank goodness you nuts on the right have no sense.
Thanks! Please keep up the good work. /snark/
pete
November 27th, 2012
1:45 pm
Hard to beat Santa Claus.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
1:47 pm
YouLibs,
Remove your lips from Kamchump’s backside, and let go of your paranoia. You leeches are hilarious!
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
1:47 pm
yeppers, “pete”, you guys go right on riffing that civilization, in the form of an orderly and effective government, equals “free stuff.”
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
1:47 pm
Hey Scooter, Good to see ya!
Donovan
November 27th, 2012
1:47 pm
Hussein: Did I hurt your angry liberal feelings? Sure sounds like it. See you tomorrow, Lefty.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
Recon — “This president purports to have drawn a line in the sand on this paltry increase in the face of a looming fiscal disaster in about one more month. The Democrats can thump their chest and do victory dances but it’s time to wear long trousers and it doesn’t seem the left gets that message.”
Here’s a message for you to get.
Your side LOST. That means we’re not doing things your way. Got it?
Jefferson
November 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
Recon your babbling is a waste of time, you are bitter and of little consequense. Be mad, my friend.
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
muchshalom – “Even at this point you seem more obsessed with Fox News than any concern that the nation deserves to know about it’s governments’ activities around the globe.”
Agreed! I for one would like to know where the WMD’s are. Can we start there and work our way forward?
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
The Democrats can thump their chest and do victory dances
Why thanks, don’t mind if I do.
You lost.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
1:49 pm
dB
From Atrios twitter: (and I’m assuming it’s about the Sandra Flue thingie)
basically my whole life path can be explained by the fact that a girl refused to kiss me when we were playing spin the bottle in 8th grade
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
1:49 pm
“Just don’t give him any credit at all for getting bin laden and keeping us safe…”
You’re correct…. I give him credit for issuing the order but no I don’t give him credit for getting bin Laden. As or for keeping us safe, no I don’t give him credit for that either.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
1:51 pm
Donovan — “Hussein: Did I hurt your angry liberal feelings? Sure sounds like it.”
Not at all, chew-toy. BTW, I enjoyed taking you to school. Let’s do it again real soon. (laughing, pointing)
“See you tomorrow, Lefty.”
Sounds good, Champ. Hurry back so I can smarten you up some more. (giggling)
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
1:52 pm
“Recon your babbling is a waste of time, you are bitter and of little consequense. Be mad, my friend.”
Jeff, it must be of consequence for you or you wouldn’t bother to complain. BTW…I’m not your friend.
Stevie Ray
November 27th, 2012
1:54 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
12:33 pm
Now now, don’t you go and lump me into “y’all” re birther crap…never my cup of tea…its is clear that more information is to come…too soon to turn the page on this one..
pete
November 27th, 2012
1:55 pm
Obama offers free stuff, and 51% of the public would rather have free hand outs than actually work for it. It really is that simple.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
1:55 pm
Kam, the A-man went on to say (at his blog): “I’m reasonably confident Sandra Fluke will not be the person of the year, even though she probably should be.”
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
1:55 pm
“Here’s a message for you to get”
JHM, you have nothing worthwhile to give. Got it?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
1:56 pm
It really is that simple.
There’s your sign.
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
1:57 pm
Good to see you too Corbin! I havn’t been here much because it is hunting season but I just figured that I was here when you weren’t,then USinUK said something to you about ladders and I finally put 2&2 together!
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
1:57 pm
pete – “Obama offers free stuff, and 51% of the public would rather have free hand outs than actually work for it. It really is that simple.”
Right, no one who voted for Obama is wealthy. Gotcha.
getalife
November 27th, 2012
1:57 pm
President Obama crushed you twice del.
Bow down.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
1:59 pm
it must be of consequence for you or you wouldn’t bother to complain.
Hon, you have mistaken “pointing and laughing” with “complaining.”
I guess when your worldview gets flushed like a dead goldfish hanging around here for negative attention is your only consolation. We’re here for you buddy. Anytime you need a reminder you lost like a drunk in Vegas we’re more than happy to supply the slam dunk in your face.
Citizen of the World
November 27th, 2012
1:59 pm
Few events have so thoroughly and indisputably burst the Fox News bubble as election night 2012. But there are many other examples of where the network persisted in promoting a certain version of events despite all evidence to the contrary. Several studies have shown that Fox News viewers are more misinformed than uninformed. Yet, Fox News fans can’t face facts, do not want to be confused by the facts. An intervention is in order.
I challenge Fox News viewers to turn away, just say no! Go for six weeks without any Fox. Get your news and information elsewhere. And before you turn around and challenge the rest of us to only watch Fox News — cause I’m pretty sure that’s what you’re thinking — bear in mind that we are not among the blind being led around by those who will not see. You are.
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
1:59 pm
“Bow down.”
get, I’ll leave that to you. You sound like you’re probably good at doing so.
Peace
November 27th, 2012
2:00 pm
The lives of four Americans aren’t all that important. Nothing could have saved them … so they did nothing. Thanks, Jay. Now I understand.
curious
November 27th, 2012
2:00 pm
The Pentagon covered up (lied) on Pat Tillman to protect Bush, just like Susan Rice lied to protect Obama.
Panama Red
November 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
Bookman, shut up and let it go. The guy got re-elected, it’s over, your leftist president is still in charge, and this article doesn’t mean jack anymore, nor will it change anything. You’d be better off writing news articles for Pravada……except that they would probably censor everything you wrote there.
getalife
November 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
del,
I think you are better at bowing down for the wealthy so include our President while you are bowed down.
He is a millionaire.
pete
November 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
“Now, now, now…don’t worry about the economy and those silly terrorists. I have lots of toys to hand out, and the terrorists are on the other side of the world. Besides, I got bin Laden!”
B. Obama
aka ‘Your Daddy’
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
2:03 pm
get, I am wealthy. And yes I built it.
Vernon Flaas
November 27th, 2012
2:04 pm
I don’t watch Fox new, but I still would’ve figured Mitt would’ve been able to beat an anti business, unaccomplished, affirmative action cadidate, half-breed Barrack Hussein Kardashian.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
2:05 pm
dB
I think that the twitter was not about Atrios’ experience, but the motivation behind the reaction to this possible nomination, and I only caught it ’cause I follow the boggsters twitter.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
2:05 pm
Recon — “JHM, you have nothing worthwhile to give. Got it?”
And you’re going to receive it whether you like it or not? Got it?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 27th, 2012
2:05 pm
You’d be better off writing news articles for Pravada
Ohh goodie, I hope he includes some photos of Anne Hathaway!
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
2:05 pm
Recon
And you have your right to your opinion. If you believe what Bush said was applicable in 04, you are being a hypocrite if you do not believe the same today when Obama had more EC votes and a larger margin of victory in the popular than Bush.
This isn’t horse shoes and hand grenades, close doesn’t count. Obama isn’t going to make Romney, Co-Prez because of the votes totals. Obama will not get everything he wants and shouldn’t, but he also shouldn’t cave on all things because you and others were more than ok with Bush’s close victories but now want to stomp sour grapes into whine because Obama won a fairly close popular vote but a EC vote beat down.
“Elections have consequences” Bush
“I plan to use the political capital I earned from the election” Bush
When the person you vote for wins, I’m sure you want them to use their capital to exert as much influence as possible to push the agenda they ran on.
Why would you expect any different if it doesn’t go your way?
Alex
November 27th, 2012
2:05 pm
“complete Meat shambles”, …Big 10 or big 12 minus Ohio State and Penn State it’s INSIGNIFICANT. Dec in Inndianapolis, yowza, party till it’s January, when it’s even colder.
But really, good luck, we’ll ALL be watching…………..!!?? Nebraska, smart state, went Romney……
Didn’t Lawrence Phillips play for the BIG RED……..Fine young man, now how did good old Tom Osborne (repub) keep him eligible?
More BBQ sauce please.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
2:07 pm
P. Red — “Pravada”
Wuzzat? One’a those new Kia sedans they’re building down in West Point?
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
Dang,hereI was thinking things would simmer down here after the election.Boy was I wrong! Whew
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
Recon — “get, I am wealthy. And yes I built it.”
Hope you didn’t get any sort of gubmint contracts.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
2:10 pm
This blog……..is just eat up……with………………..people on their………………periods……………………………..
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
Scooter,
Yeah, ladders will get you every time. I wanted to change my Nom de Blog for awhile but waited until after the election to do it. I just didn’t want to be the “normal” one here any more. I’m still the same tree hugging liberal trapped in an old white mans body I was though…
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
B. Obama
aka ‘Your Daddy’
After much soul-searching, pete finally comes up with the answer to “who’s yo daddy?” Yessiree, it’s that dark guy in the Oval Office.
Good boy petey.
Stevie Ray
November 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
pete
November 27th, 2012
1:55 pm
Seems much truth to your comment…LIB scare tactics about SS, Medicare, welfare, medicaid and the likes going away and given to fat cats worked like a charm. Romney could have won if it weren’t for Romney…I’m not big fan of BO but in this case, he seems the best of the worst…
hope he keeps his promises better than from 2008
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
“And you’re going to receive it whether you like it or not? Got it?”
Joe, I guess you didn’t get it. I said you had nothing worthwhile to give. Liking or disliking doesn’t enter into it. Now run along.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
2:12 pm
Wuzzat? One’a those new Kia sedans they’re building down in West Point?
I thought he was talking about writing for a fashion magazine or something.
Peace
November 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
Four dead Americans. Didn’t even warrant a ‘beer summit’ at the White House.
Citizen of the World
November 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
The meeting with Rice has concluded and McCain et.al. are now saying they are “more concerned than ever,” or something along those lines.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
Wuzzat? One’a those new Kia sedans they’re building down in West Point?
Nope.
I saw a call girl last night and asked for the full pravda.
Recon 0311 2533
November 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
Okay my right wing rhetoric upset some of you with fragile leftist egos. I’ll give y’all a break for awhile but I’ll be back.
That Black Guy
November 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
11:58 am
Mick: The way I see it, the ocean is big enough for all, why should sharks get any special preference?
Maybe because their bite is worse than their bark?
My actual rule is that I don’t swim in water where I can’t see the bottom or see quite a distant off. I also don’t wade into water beyond where I can clearly see my feet. I prefer to remain in a position of advantage when it comes to the predatory hierarchy tree.
************************************************************
BINGO!!
I used to love to swim in the Hillsboro River when I lived in Tampa.
That was until I found out that Bull sharks loved the Hillsboro River just as much.
I gladly sacrificed my joy for their comfort.
BTW,
HI EVERYBODY. Hope you all had a GREAT Turkey Day.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
2:17 pm
They’re so cute when they’re pretending to care about dead people they didn’t know.
They BOTH suck
November 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
“Okay my right wing rhetoric upset some of you with fragile leftist egos.”
Translation: The election results still sting.
curious
November 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
Citizen of the World
November 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
“The meeting with Rice has concluded and McCain et.al. are now saying they are “more concerned than ever,” or something along those lines”
What else would you expect. I’ll bet their “more concerned than ever” is all about Obama and his role.
emz
November 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
Good article.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
Recon — “Joe, I guess you didn’t get it.”
I got it just fine. I just don’t *care* what you said, and I guess *you* didn’t get *that.*
“I said you had nothing worthwhile to give.”
Yet another example in your long history of exhibiting poor judgment. Fail.
“Liking or disliking doesn’t enter into it. Now run along.”
Your request is hereby denied. I shall post at you to my heart’s content or until restrained by our host. You are free to ignore my posts or to simply leave if you don’t like them, but you have no voice in whether or not I’m going to post.
Deal, Punkin. Deal with it or leave.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
2:21 pm
TBG @ 2:16
What’s up bro??
Mick
November 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
recon
So, who is your idea of a good president? The previous guy was a disaster, the sainted reagan had iran-contra; exchanging weapons for hostages?
We are not the rulers of the world as much as you want us to be. I don’t worship any man much less obama and I give him a solid C or average as president. His opposition in the senate and the house have thwarted his jobs bills for political reasons. What in the world do you think romney/ryan offered us to tame the deficit? tax cuts?
No, the right man for the times is in the white house and in four years we’ll know the record. Obama was far and away the best choice in 2012, so sayeth the majority of americans – like it or not…
Stevie Ray
November 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
Ya know, sometimes you are the windshield and sometimes you are the bug…you better turn on your washers…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
Recon — “Okay my right wing rhetoric upset some of you with fragile leftist egos.”
Not at all. It’s just that the thickness and density of your skull is a freakin’ geological anomaly. Normally it takes millions of years of intense heat and pressure for material that hard and that dense to form, but you’ve managed to accomplish it in only a few years of hanging out in that intellectual vacuum known as the Fox News Channel.
Clearly, we shall have to study your skull and its alleged contents in greater detail.
Seriously?
November 27th, 2012
2:24 pm
It’s not the GOP world crumbling. It is our world. The truth was hidden for political gain. That is a fact. And you can’t cash checks for more money than you have in the bank. That too is a fact. You need to see the world outside of your ideology before it’s too late.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
2:26 pm
TBG, HI EVERYBODY back atcha.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
2:27 pm
It’s not the GOP world crumbling. It is our world.
how so? Are you one of those sad sacks who buys into the corporate media narrative that there is a “debt crisis”? Do tell.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
2:28 pm
The truth was hidden for political gain. That is a fact. And you can’t cash checks for more money than you have in the bank. That too is a fact.
I spent last night with Candice Swanapoel. That is a fact. We were at The Holiday Inn Express. That is a fact. I will be with Ilary Blasi tonight. That is a fact.
Stevie Ray
November 27th, 2012
2:29 pm
Mick
November 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
I suggest that, and have always felt that comparisons to Bush and priors seem to be the standard of care BO is held to…blaming obstructionist GOP congress for blocking BO’s ability to do anything as suggested is indicative of lack of leadership in making good on his “spirit of compromise”…or “the days of lobbyist controlling DC agenda are over..”
If the shoe were on the other foot, it would be the left who were be obstructionists and they would be critical of lack of presidential leadership to promote agenda…
I think Obama spent less time on the hill and on the phone to congress than any president in our lifetime….leading from behind I reckon…
He was clearly better choice than Romney…I voted for the guy wanting to legalize weed..
Stevie Ray
November 27th, 2012
2:30 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
2:28 pm
Holiday Inn Express eh…do they rent by the hour?
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
2:31 pm
Alex, you do know a tiny bit of NU lore.
BTW, are you a big Auburn fan? LOL!!
Like I said, life is good…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
2:32 pm
Holiday Inn Express eh…do they rent by the hour?
Ask your wife…she should know.
Doggone/GA
November 27th, 2012
2:33 pm
“blaming obstructionist GOP congress for blocking BO’s ability to do anything as suggested is indicative of lack of leadership in making good on his “spirit of compromise”
You can’t compromise with someone whose only answer is NO
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
2:34 pm
K’Chak — “Ask your wife…she should know.”
Ooo, that’ll leave a mark!
RB from Gwinnett
November 27th, 2012
2:34 pm
Gee, Jay, a whole column of ancilarry BS on this issue to ignore discussing the issue central to it, THE YOUTUBE VIDEO. Who made up the BS story about the youtube video and why was it shoveled on the American people for 2 full weeks by this collection of friggin lying sacks in the white house? Who Jay? WHO? And WHY?
And you call yourself a “journalist”???? Puhleaseeeeeeee…….
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
2:37 pm
Anyone else wondering how many Americans this week are asking themselves, “…who the hell is this doughy ‘Grover Norquist’ person, and why did my Congressman ever pledge allegiance to him?”
Doggone/GA
November 27th, 2012
2:38 pm
“And you call yourself a “journalist”???? ”
Nope, he calls himself an OPINION writer. “An Atlanta blog with a little bit of opinion about a whole lot of things”
Alex
November 27th, 2012
2:39 pm
Call girl
“tthere’s your sign”
Doggone/GA
November 27th, 2012
2:39 pm
“who the hell is this doughy ‘Grover Norquist’ person, and why did my Congressman ever pledge allegiance to him?””
He’s the bogeyman for adults! Better be good, or Grover will getcha! Boo!
Doggone/GA
November 27th, 2012
2:40 pm
“tthere’s your sign”
I see this here all the time. Am I the only one who knows that the actual quote is “HERE’S your sign”?
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
2:40 pm
Are you one of those sad sacks who buys into the corporate media narrative that there is a “debt crisis”? Do tell.
Debt crisis my ass. We’re suffering from a 40 year JOB crisis. Creating new and permanent jobs will do more to alleviate all of this “crisis” crap than any type of agreement that could ever come out of Congress. Jobs would help out with SS and Medicaid funding, debt reduction, and boost GDP all at the same time without Congress doing a damned thing.
—————
blaming obstructionist GOP congress for blocking BO’s ability to do anything as suggested is indicative of lack of leadership in making good on his “spirit of compromise”
How about you go out and attempt to negotiate a compromise with one of the bridge pylons out at Spaghetti Junction. See if you can get one of those pylons to compromise and move it’s position. I’m sure that you have the leadership capability to overcome absolute obstruction since you seem to think Obama has that ability. Show us all how it’s done.
Mick
November 27th, 2012
2:40 pm
stevie ray
How would you know how many phone calls to the hill obama made? The jobs bill had partisan idea’s yet, the repubs in congress were not going to help out obama in an election year. So, party politics over country? I thought getting people back to work is a bipartisan ideal? Look, like I said, obama is doing the best he can with what he has to work with, the opposition needs to compromise some, thats all we ask…
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
2:42 pm
It’s not the GOP world crumbling. It is our world.
Disagree.
The far right wing has taken three devastating body blows recently. (Doubt me? Just ask Messrs Allen, West, Walsh, Akin and Mourdoch among numerous others of the GOP’s most intransigent, intolerant and McCarthy reactionary.)
Of course, America has her problems. Like she has always had. But she’ll keep on rockin’.
And all this talk about divisiveness? Outside of the Lily White Party, the whites, blacks, browns, Asians, Jews, all other minorities, the gays and America’s women are coalescing into one nation under a groove.
And the day that you Uncle Sam haters finally realize that your present course is a dead end back to the 1950s, is the day you will start healing…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
2:42 pm
First, Alex. Then later, alex. And now, Alex again.
After doing the sock-puppet thingie, it is advisable to check the spelling of your usual nom-de-blog when you sign back in.
There’s your sign.
Alex
November 27th, 2012
2:43 pm
Nope, my school remains undefeated….Emory Eagles…(he said sheepishly)
travel safe…To Lucas (big oil) field
Mick
November 27th, 2012
2:44 pm
**Outside of the Lily White Party, the whites, blacks, browns, Asians, Jews, all other minorities, the gays and America’s women are coalescing into one nation under a groove.**
Nice imagery goin on there, maybe we are at a turning point – nothing wrong with that…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
2:45 pm
Debt crisis my ass. We’re suffering from a 40 year JOB crisis.
I would submit that it is a CAREER crisis.
“Jobs” are all we’ve had for the past generation or so.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
2:48 pm
I would submit that it is a CAREER crisis.
I stand corrected… Although, for now, I’d settle for jobs.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
2:48 pm
This just in: Chinese, North Koreans punked by The Onion:
http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/27/15481674-chinese-paper-falls-for-onion-sexiest-man-alive-spoof?lite
http://english.people.com.cn/90777/8035568.html
Personally, I think he looks more like a *spud* than a *stud,* but have a look and decide for yourself.
East Lake Ira
November 27th, 2012
2:50 pm
Just print more money.
Inflation would be nice right about now.
Jack ®
November 27th, 2012
2:51 pm
When mistakes are made, you try to learn from them and get smarter says Bookman. It appears voters learned nothing from the mistake they made in the 2008 presidential election.
Seriously?
November 27th, 2012
2:53 pm
“…From apathy to dependency; and from dependency back to bondage once more.”
jj
November 27th, 2012
2:54 pm
Well Rice is done with her meeting and it is clear Rice, the white house, and the CIA all knew. Who is living in the echo chamber now Jay?
Drudge
November 27th, 2012
2:55 pm
So all of you think that this was accurately reported and conveyed to us by our leadership? My only concern was the evolving story being manipulated during the runup to an election. A child could have seen that a dozen or so coordinated attacks on the first 9/11 since Bin Laden was killed was obviously not over a video. For that – I do fault this administration. They do this better than anyone ever has – distraction and deflection – getting you to watch the bouncing balls (tax returns, sandra fluke, bain capital) while your house burns around you.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 27th, 2012
2:56 pm
“When great statsmen bend their ear to a woman or verily when women are thrust upon posiitions of great import and Representatives of State empire are torn asunder………then ye shall know that your society is surely doomed”.
Hippoplatypus 7-32 A.D.
Michael Tomasky on How John McCain Humiliated Himself on Susan Rice
November 27th, 2012
2:56 pm
We don’t yet really know as a society what a person has to do to completely and utterly cancel out a record of war heroism, but we may be about to find out. If this CBS News report is even close to accurate, John McCain’s arguments of the last few weeks about Susan Rice are thrashingly demolished. He has, or should have, zero credibility now on this issue. It will be fascinating to see if he emerges from the holiday weekend subtly chastened, attempting to shift gears a bit, or whether he keeps the pedal to the paranoid metal. He’s getting toward the sunset of what was once a reasonably distinguished career, a career (if we count his time in Vietnam) that began in the highest honor and has now descended into the darkest farce.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/25/michael-tomasky-on-how-john-mccain-humiliated-himself-on-susan-rice.html
Mick
November 27th, 2012
2:57 pm
jack
**It appears voters learned nothing from the mistake they made in the 2008 presidential election.**
Not true, we learned from the 2004 election – beware of republicans and the tax cuts they bare…
Alex alex AlexalexALEX-for the thug
November 27th, 2012
2:59 pm
“under a groove” –on a Sunday afternoon, The imagery, haight,tiedye,VW Bugs,Nixon’s the one (ooppss),Black Power,Bic pens,Flowers in your hair,……GROOOVY-
uncle Sam Haters…….there’s your sign
JamVet
November 27th, 2012
3:00 pm
Thanks, alex.
It’s gonna be an 18 hour whirlwind trip.
Flying in to Indy in time to catch a cab to the stadium just in time for the opening kickoff.
And afterwards, closing down Cadillac Ranch with a bunch of (hopefully victorious) Husker fans at 3AM. Catching a cab back to the airport and back in Atlanta by 7:30AM Sunday.
Work hard. Play harder.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
3:00 pm
Although, for now, I’d settle for jobs.
I certainly understand that and have settled before, but I’m beginning to feel like a Hostess Cake employee that settled year after year because, “hey in times like these, I should be grateful just to have a crappy job”.
Why Susan Rice is handling this perfectly — MSNBC
November 27th, 2012
3:01 pm
[...] awkward, McCain’s mania over this remains the only compelling aspect of this tale. As Jay Bookman explained well today in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the narrative Republicans—and their network—are selling is [...]
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
3:05 pm
For T H Jr.
when 13 I constructed elaborate theories why chicks should totally dig a guy like me above all others. richard cohen is still doing it at 71
There’s a message in there for you also.
Mick
November 27th, 2012
3:07 pm
Uncle sam haters? I think not, we are the true america and honor her thus…
STUPID LIBERAL
November 27th, 2012
3:07 pm
NAME SAYS IT ALL
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
3:10 pm
Mexican Mitt Romneez
https://twitter.com/MexicanMitt
East Lake Ira
November 27th, 2012
3:10 pm
STUPID LIBERAL
November 27th, 2012
3:07 pm
NAME SAYS IT ALL
And yet you lost. What does that say about you? You should wear your helmut all the time like the doctors told you…
guy
November 27th, 2012
3:10 pm
Pete is the man with the plan! Love it!!!!!
jon
November 27th, 2012
3:11 pm
“The closest AC-130 was 2,500 miles away, in Afghanistan.” BS!!!!! When will the lies stop???? AC-130 was fueled and awaiting orders in Tripoli!!!!!!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
3:13 pm
Bonerz SHEETZ!
ClearAndPresent
November 27th, 2012
3:17 pm
Are you all freaking unemployed? Or just stealing time on your employer’s internet connection? I’m for fiscal policies which will grow the economy and create jobs which don’t start with “Mc”. And I would like to get one after losing mine to the Obama goals of “redistribution” and “free stuff” for all to vote for him.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
3:18 pm
jon — “BS!!!!! When will the lies stop???? AC-130 was fueled and awaiting orders in Tripoli!!!!!!”
And it wasn’t going to get used against insurgent targets in a suburban neighborhood in a major city of a friendly country with whom we had diplomatic relations, no matter how much you might have liked for that to happen.
Going upstairs.
Alex
November 27th, 2012
3:23 pm
Jam- Bring back one of those corn cob hats……
RB from Gwinnett
November 27th, 2012
3:23 pm
Doggie, “Nope, he calls himself an OPINION writer. “An Atlanta blog with a little bit of opinion about a whole lot of things”
Funny how it’s always Jay’s surrogates who claim he’s not a journalist, but never Jay. In fact, on NUMEROUS occasions when I’ve given Jay an opportunity state he shouldn’t be held to journalistic standards because he’s merely an opinion writer, he pulls his dissapearing routine and says nothing.
Door is open again, Jay. What say you?
STUPID LIBERAL
November 27th, 2012
3:25 pm
East Lake Ira
November 27th, 2012
3:10 pm
STUPID LIBERAL
November 27th, 2012
3:07 pm
NAME SAYS IT ALL
And yet you lost. What does that say about you? You should wear your helmut all the time like the doctors told you…
actually, the American people lost, but, I would not expect a dumb liberal such as yourself to be able to understand. You will soon see. 2013 is going to make 2008 look like a wonderful year.
Jay
November 27th, 2012
3:26 pm
According to the Pentagon — and they should know, since they tend to keep track of such things — there was no AC-130 sitting on the ground in Tripoli or anywhere near there. If you have evidence to contradict the Pentagon, produce it and cite your source.
Otherwise, that is a complete and utter fabrication and still further evidence of the conspiracy nonsense.
Jay
November 27th, 2012
3:28 pm
RB, I’m a trained, professional and experienced journalist who operates under the rules and expectations of that craft, and am proud to do so.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 27th, 2012
3:30 pm
Robert Brown melt-down in 3…2…1….
RB from Gwinnett
November 27th, 2012
3:31 pm
I also find it funny these silly little childish liberals accuse the “obstructionist” Republicans in the house for making Obama look bad leading up to the election, but these same mind numbingly stupid individuals ignore the Democrats who held the house AND senate during the last 2 years of Bush’s term. You know, libs, the 2 years everything flew off the rails???? Somehow all of that is Bush’s fault, but it’s the house’s fault during Obama’s term? Really???? idiots.
Hey, speaking of idiots, did any of you ever find the Olympic show horse tax exemption? I’d still like to see that legislation. While you’re at it, maybe in the same document you can find the tax breaks your beloved Bon Jovi and Springstein get for the musical equipment they use in pursuit of their “hobbies”. You don’t actually think they buy their own do you? Tools.
RB from Gwinnett
November 27th, 2012
3:36 pm
Doggie, ‘RB, I’m a trained, professional and experienced journalist who operates under the rules and expectations of that craft, and am proud to do so.”
Does that cover that issue well enough for you Doggie?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
3:37 pm
RB — “Hey, speaking of idiots, did any of you ever find the Olympic show horse tax exemption?”
No, because nobody claimed there *was* such a thing.
You asked for examples of deductions that wealthy people could take advantage of that poor people couldn’t, and writeoffs for horses kept as a hobby were cited. You got what you asked for, and if you don’t like it, then that’s just too bad. If you want details, go look them up yourself.
Now shut your yap. We’re trying to have an adult conversation upstairs and all your ranting and raving is clearly audible up there.
Norton Burgess
November 27th, 2012
4:01 pm
The gloating continues.
7arry
November 27th, 2012
4:17 pm
Bookman is another tool of the leftist media. Congratulations!
ODD OWL
November 27th, 2012
4:24 pm
John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Kelly Ayotte have been reduced to the level of three blind mice, yelling and screaming at a room full of deaf people… They fail to realize that their shrill tone temple tantrums are not about the act of terror in Benghaz… Its not about what Ambassador Susan Rice said or didn’t say… Its not about what our intelligence agencies reported… The story has morphed into something entirely different… Now rational, logical, fair and balanced Americans are asking; what’s wrong with John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Kelly Ayotte ??? Why are their honesty, integrity and character being questioned ??? Why are there questions about their mental instability and their intellectual shortcomings ??? Shame on the three blind mice…
ODD OWL
November 27th, 2012
4:38 pm
RB==> Conspiracy theory, co-conspirator…
Annie
November 27th, 2012
7:18 pm
Why are so many Americans blindly supporting the President and his administration on Benghazi? When people blindly trust in their government – our country is lost. Pick up a history book. Any modern fall of a nation, or rise of dictatorship, happened when people stopped questioning their government. When people put full faith in their government. We should ALL question our government, ALL the time. Whether it’s a Democrat, Republican, or 3rd party candidate. Why do liberals want our government to have so much power? Perhaps what you wrote is true – but there is someone equally (probably more) credible than you who could refute every single point you made, with fact. Just like you refute them. Clearly, this is a controversial issue that demands answers. So where is our President? Why isn’t he willing to take an oath and answer some questions about Benghazi? We should be demanding truths to the fullest extent. There is a large possibility the President committed election fraud. There is a possibility he is completely innocent, and many other innocent people will have their careers ruin because of it. But we need to know the truth. And you, and all other people in the media – we should be questioning, not providing answers that are not fact based. If we don’t question this, if we just let it go, we are giving too much power & credibility to our government. Ask any Eastern European (I’m Russian) what it’s like when we blindly trust our government… ask them what they do with their power. They don’t help anyone but themselves.
ODD OWL
November 27th, 2012
7:48 pm
@ Annie… The reason why you don’t trust the elected officials in your political party is because they’re greedy, untrustworthy, dishonest, unscrupulous and crooked… Democrats on the other hand are honest, trustworthy, fair minded and work tirelessly to serve their constituents… Mean Mitch McConnell is an outrageous villian… Sen. Harry Reid is a great leader…
Annie
November 27th, 2012
8:07 pm
I don’t have a political party affiliation. I’ve voted Democrat in the past, I’ve voted Republican, and this time around I went Libertarian. But thanks for making the assumption. Few politicians are honest, and this is a frightening situation. I hope you do some unbiased research, read some history and economic books, and realize this for yourself…. education is powerful. Bias is destructive.
ODD OWL
November 27th, 2012
8:11 pm
Charles Krauthammer’s rhetoric violates occam’s razor…
ODD OWL
November 27th, 2012
8:21 pm
@ Annie…. You’re a fence straddling flip-flopper, on both sides of all issues… Romney/Ryan were shape shifting flip-floppers too… Republican/Libertarians ==> same thing… The Democrat party is the only viable political party… If you’re not a Democrat, your patriotism is suspect…
Annie
November 27th, 2012
8:41 pm
I’m a patriot, conservative (in the traditional way, e.g., not today’s stereotypical conservatism – I believe in individual liberties incl. gay marriage & women’s choice), & true constitutionalist. My point was, without judging anyone’s intelligence or motives for political affiliations, Obama & his administration should take oath and have a brief trial & put to rest the public’s questions – the American way. If they have nothing to hide, then they should readily oblige & it will be an easy and fair process. We all need to be open-minded and critical of our government, always. We need to demand truth & transparency, and have intelligent and respectful disputes – not engage in the hurtful, ignorant rhetoric that occurs today. Bigger government is not better. It never has been in the history of civilization, and it never will be.
Rod
November 27th, 2012
8:51 pm
You sir are a complete hack. Regardless of your opinion of Benghazi, Fox is the lone network to share any coverage that sheds light of both (left/right) viewpoints. With the exception of one courageous woman reporter from CBS, all the other networks completely ignored the story.
You are also missing the entire point. Yes, our Embassies have been attacked during Bush’s watch as well as Clinton and many other President’s. The main issue is that 4 Americans were killed needlessly. Not only were they left on their own for 6+ hours, but the Ambassador had requested extra protection weeks if not months before, only to be ignored. And in the wake of the debacle, what does our Commander in Chief do? Jets off to Vegas to fund raising and also mixing with Beyonce’ and then Letterman, The View and other “soft” venue’s whom he could easily control… And the reason for the deception? Of course to not detract from the narrative he and the Dems were spewing that Al Qaeda was on the run and dismantled…What a joke! As big a joke as this fish-wrap newspaper and columnists like yourself…
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tom gambeski
November 28th, 2012
1:16 pm
Jay,Susan Rice appeared on five different days on 5 different shows to explain to the American public that Al Qaeda was “decimated and Ben Laden is dead”and she was only saying what she was told by the CIA?
Ambassador Rice was sent out by Obama to parrot what he wanted the American people to believe something that has been proven beyond question as false, by no less than the head of the CIA.
Jay,the responsibility you have as a journalist ,whose salary is paid by the readers of the AJC, is to seek the truth and not let ideology get in the way,unfortunately you have failed on both of those counts.
Saying the CIA reported it was a video that caused a spontaneous attack is another untruth that you and much of the media are still reporting as fact.