The Benghazi narrative spun by Fox now in ruins

For at least a few conservatives, Election Night opened eyes about the danger of confining yourself to the right-wing information echo chamber. Because out here in the real world, as opposed to ConservaWorld, it turned out that the polls weren’t skewed, Mitt Romney wasn’t surging and a majority of the American people really did want to re-elect Barack Obama as their president.

Those who had relied on Fox “News” for their information were prepared for none of that.

To my mind, though, the utter collapse of the Fox narrative regarding the attacks on our consulate in Benghazi should be at least as instructive for those who are willing to see things as they are, rather than how they wish them to be. For more than two months, the network and those in Washington who follow its lead tried to create a firestorm of controversy regarding Benghazi, but time and again, as facts came to light, each right-wing claim about Benghazi was exposed as false and inflammatory.

Let’s review the litany, shall we?

“It never would have happened if consulate security had been bolstered as requested!”

No feasible level of consulate security could have saved the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team against an assault by 50 to 100 armed attackers.

“This only happened because under Obama, nobody is afraid of us anymore!” As Charles Krauthammer slickly phrased the argument on Fox, “these are the fruits of apology and retreat and lack of confidence in our own principles.”

Under President Bush, seven U.S. consulates or embassies were attacked, including those in Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia and Syria, with considerable loss of life. But unlike Benghazi, none of those attacks became the pretext for crass partisanship.

“They refused to bring in the AC-130 gunships that could have saved the ambassador.”

The closest AC-130 was 2,500 miles away, in Afghanistan.

“They had Special Forces units sitting there in Italy ready to intervene but instead the cowards just watched our people die!”

The Special Forces units in question did not arrive in Italy until several hours after the attacks had ended, and were never in position to have played a role.

“UN Ambassador Susan Rice lied to the American people, and by doing so disqualified herself from consideration to become secretary of State.”

Rice accurately communicated to the American people the best, most current information as assembled by our intelligence community. There is no evidence that the intel assessment was altered for partisan political reasons, and former CIA Director David Petraeus and current Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper have informed Congress of that fact.

However, the best indication of how completely the Fox narrative has collapsed comes from recent events on Capitol Hill. Sen. John McCain, who had heatedly pledged that “I will do everything in my power to block (Rice) from being the United States’ secretary of State,” has backed off that pledge and in fact is meeting with Rice today. Sen. Lindsey Graham, who had charged that Rice had disqualified herself from consideration, has also changed his tone and is also meeting with Rice today.

Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had earlier accused Rice of lying and said she would not be a “fitting replacement” for Hillary Clinton at State. Yesterday, Inhofe acknowledged that “I’m not at all convinced of that now.”

Those men may yet decide to vote against Rice, should she indeed be nominated by the president. But they appear to understand that they allowed their partisanship and anger to cloud their judgment, which is why they’re now moonwalking things back as quietly as possible.

In addition, State Department and congressional investigations into the Benghazi tragedy are still under way and may yet produce lessons into how such setbacks can be avoided in the future. That again is how it ought to be: When mistakes are made, you try to learn from them and get smarter, so you don’t repeat those mistakes the next time.

Right?

– Jay Bookman

579 comments Add your comment

getalife

November 27th, 2012
1:19 pm

Psst, cons.

We have moved on from Benghazi.

Aquagirl

November 27th, 2012
1:20 pm

My point is that this a divided country whereby Obama and the Democrats do not enjoy a clear popular mandate.

I wish some of y’all would see a proctologist about your post-election butthurt. It’s obviously quite painful.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 27th, 2012
1:21 pm

As for Benghazi the contradicting narrative from the White House and state department was at best incompetence and at worst intentional deceit.

Well I see the Queen of Factiness has spoken. :lol: :lol:

Real Scootter

November 27th, 2012
1:21 pm

ANd the stupidity and lies of the FOXBOTS couldn’t get Romney elected.

Plus Romney was his own worst enemy also Fred.

Butch Cassidy (I)

November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm

Atlantan – “If it was your son who died in Libya wouldn’t you want to know exactly what happened and why?”

I’m sure there are 4,000 families that would like the same answer in regard to Iraq.

Recon 0311 2533

November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm

“You lost, be a man and get over it.”

I’m my own man and I guess that must be difficult for you to understand.

They BOTH suck

November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm

Recon

It has been a “divided country” for sometime. Nothing new.

Were you saying the same when Cheney and numerous pundits on the right were speaking of mandates in 04?

Remember Bush speaking of elections having consequences and having earned political capital that he planned to use. Are you ok with Obama having that same mindset?

Again, mandates to me are more talk than anything because any President must work with Congress.

I just find it funny and ironic that some of the same folks who touted mandates in 04 or were ok with others touting it, are not to pleased now that the shoe is on the other foot.

GM

November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm

I thought journalist were supposed to be objective and not take a stance.

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 27th, 2012
1:23 pm

Real Scootter

Lots of new names with old faces here.

Lots of old faces made embarrassing election predictions and don’t have the balls to appear in their old guises.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 27th, 2012
1:23 pm

Aquagirl

November 27th, 2012
1:20 pm

Their but hurt is just the direct cause of having their head up their azz.

Real Scootter

November 27th, 2012
1:23 pm

We have moved on from Benghazi

Psst getalife,tell that to Jay.He started it!!!! lol

getalife

November 27th, 2012
1:23 pm

I do love slow news days.

No scandals, no losing occupations and no economic collapses.

That is what I voted for.

Fred ™

November 27th, 2012
1:24 pm

Recon 0311 2533

November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm

“You lost, be a man and get over it.”

I’m my own man and I guess that must be difficult for you to understand
+++++++++++++++++++++

Considering the fact that all you do is quote the FOXBOT/Talk radio mantra, yes it IS hard to “understands” as it makes no sense whatsoever.

oh, I know, Fox follows YOU around with a mic so they know what to say…………..

They BOTH suck

November 27th, 2012
1:24 pm

Real Scooter @ 1:23

That was pretty funny.

guy

November 27th, 2012
1:24 pm

If you all will read what Fred posted @ 1:13 p.m. there is nothing to add.Finally,someone who tells the truth! GAME.SET.MATCH (Jay,you’ve been overshadowed but I’m sure you will find something to stir up the crowd again.) Cynthia,Cynthia,and Jay! WOW!

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
1:24 pm

They BOTH

Smart’s had the opportunity to jump ship before, but he stayed. I think (and hope) that it’s because he has the lead on taking over when Nick steps down. I honestly didn’t think Saban would still be around now when he first got hired on.

—————

Mick

I hate to bring that one up, but I remember how almost every talking head thought that Miami’s speed would lead them to victory over Bama that year.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
1:25 pm

Recon — “My point is that this a divided country whereby Obama and the Democrats do not enjoy a clear popular mandate.”

Denied.

Clear majority of both popular and electoral votes for President. Majority in the Senate. And no sitting House Democrat lost their seat. PLUS, Democratic House candidates garnered more votes nationwide than Republican House candidates did.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-16/republicans-can-t-declare-mandate-with-more-democrat-house-votes.html

The fact of the matter is that while this country is certainly divided, it’s divided in the same way your Thanksgiving turkey’s wishbone is. And your side’s holding the *little* piece of the wishbone.

Mick

November 27th, 2012
1:25 pm

**Benghazi is an example in spite of the spin attempts.**

Try as you might, that dog won’t hunt. No matter who is president, events will happen that will be beyond their control, it’s inevitable. Who really can say what’s fair? Reagan lost 230 marines and did NOTHING but leave. Your judgement seems to be working overtime in trying to indict obama on something, anything. Just don’t give him any credit at all for getting bin laden and keeping us safe…

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
1:25 pm

if you agree with the assertion @ 1.22, you can let Time Magazine know about it:

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2128881_2128882_2129176,00.html

Fred ™

November 27th, 2012
1:25 pm

GM

November 27th, 2012
1:22 pm

I thought journalist were supposed to be objective and not take a stance.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What an insipid comment. Jay is an OPINION writer. This is an OPINION blog. Are you really this stupid?

getalife

November 27th, 2012
1:25 pm

“Psst getalife,tell that to Jay.He started it!!!! lol”

Slow news day.

Nero

November 27th, 2012
1:28 pm

Getaleech,

Be patient. It’s coming. You can’t very well expect to be stabbed in the back before he’s sworn in for his second term. Silly leeches. Your disappointment narrative is still being compiled.

Mick

November 27th, 2012
1:28 pm

brosephus

No problem on that, miami was simply outcoached and more importantly, outplayed… being the most arrogant team on the field doesn’t guarantee a win…

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 27th, 2012
1:29 pm

getalife

November 27th, 2012
1:29 pm

nero,

You remind me of birthers.

One trick pony .

They BOTH suck

November 27th, 2012
1:30 pm

“I honestly didn’t think Saban would still be around now when he first got hired on.”

Success and 5M or whatever per year helps one stay grounded in even during high “Tide”

Will be interesting to see if he tries the NFL again. That is a hard jump for most and he has a great gig at Bama.

Real Scootter

November 27th, 2012
1:30 pm

Lots of old faces made embarrassing election predictions and don’t have the balls to appear in their old guises.

I’m sure you are right about that Kam but wasn’t it USMC that came here a few days after the election to eat some crow? And may be I’m thinking of someone else.

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
1:30 pm

For those keeping score at home, the Daily Caller is now officially butthurt over Time Magazine so much as considering Sandra “Rosa Parks of Vaginas” Fluke as Person of the Year.

Butch Cassidy (I)

November 27th, 2012
1:32 pm

GM – “I thought journalist were supposed to be objective and not take a stance.”

They are, but OPINION writers such as Jay have more leeway.

Butch Cassidy (I)

November 27th, 2012
1:33 pm

I see that “Joseph” has found a new IP address or name under which to post. I’m sure you are all aware of who I’m talking about.

Nero

November 27th, 2012
1:34 pm

Getaleech,

You remind me of Boomer retiree greed.

Rabbit

November 27th, 2012
1:35 pm

This was (hold, on. let me catch my breath) a pretty good post, Jay. Rice (stifled laughter) didn’t exactly shoot it straight, but she did what she was supposed to do to save US lives. (Gulps for breath) But I really can’t talk right now. I am still bent over laughing about the Tom Ricks video you posted last night.

JamVet

November 27th, 2012
1:35 pm

alex (or is it Alex?),

No warm wishes for you. (But no cold ones either!)

I’m stoked.

Nebraska is playing for a BIG 10 Championship. (And I’m going to the game in Indy this Saturday night!)

And the right wing lunatics here are in complete meat shambles after yet another November trouncing…

Life is good.

Keep Hopelessness Alive.

They BOTH suck

November 27th, 2012
1:36 pm

JHM @ 1:25

Good point. Gerrymandering (redistricting) which both parties love to do in attempts to stay in power, played a significant role for House Republicans a few weeks ago. Their 2010 victories certainly played a role on that front.

However, when looking at demographic trends, those advantages at the district level are evaporating in certain states. It will take a few more election cycles, but the demographic trends in certain states will surely overcome the gerrymandering.

Will be interesting to see how the Republicans play the 2014 mid terms, seeing that they know these trends as well or better than I can see them.

Real Scootter

November 27th, 2012
1:36 pm

Thanks TBS but I think JHM got me with his 1:25,that was just too funny!

muchshalom

November 27th, 2012
1:36 pm

Any journalistic attention to obtaining facts was driven by Fox–and the need for such was created by government lies.

Even at this point you seem more obsessed with Fox News than any concern that the nation deserves to know about it’s governments’ activities around the globe. And just for starters–it is your assertion that we have now been told the truth about the CIA’s mission in Libya, who all the players were in the attack, and why we are being attacked?

Shameful behavior by Fox only puts a huge exclamation mark behind the utter failure of journalism as this nation and government have ramped up a huge covert, intelligence operation that in the end will oppress————————-you.

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
1:38 pm

The pro-criminalization folks at “lifenews” are also butthurt over Fluke, according to WingNut Deli.

They BOTH suck

November 27th, 2012
1:38 pm

Jam

That is cool that you are going to the game in Indy. While I wont be at the SEC game this year, I have been to numerous ones in the past dating back to when they started in Birmingham.

Conference Championships ( a great tradition started by the SEC).

YouLibs

November 27th, 2012
1:38 pm

Yeah, Kam, sounds like USMC to me, too.

Locker

November 27th, 2012
1:39 pm

It’s so funny to me how conservatives still love and defend Fox News when the network and it’s analysts and favorite pollsters got EVERYTHING wrong on the Presidential election. It wasn’t even a mistake or an accident, it was deliberately misinformation delivered in such a successful manner the right siders were SHOCKED by the results.

This is what happens when you isolate yourself in an echo chamber who’s only goal is to reinforce your prejudices while hiding as much actual information as possible which conflicts. The main stream media beats the stuffing out of Fox every time when it comes to news.

weetamoe

November 27th, 2012
1:40 pm

Media Matters has been working overtime on this, even attacking a teenager who defended Fox’s coverage on the grounds that no other *news* organization was doing the traditional job of holding the administration responsible. Obama did his grave dances and victory struts, and al Qaeda, which has by no means been decimated, let him know they are not *on the run* by their shouts of Obama, we are all Osama now. So saith the Libyan pres (isn’t he one of our Libyans now?). I should think that in addition to lying to protect her boss, the very very worst thing Rice ever did (besides the Rwanda and Sudan stuff under Clinton) was to give the finger to the late sainted very left wing Richard Holbrooke. Naughty girl!

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
1:41 pm

dB

:lol: That first article you linked to has the writing style of RP.

Real Scootter

November 27th, 2012
1:41 pm

Good afternoon Corbin Sharpe Sir!!
It took me a while to figure out who you are(or were). :smile:

muchshalom

November 27th, 2012
1:41 pm

I’m sure glad I don’t visit this news site’s comment section often. If you folk don’t realize it–there are all kinds of social media other than news websites to banter about nothing. Does Atlanta have contaminated water–or what??

TiredOfIt

November 27th, 2012
1:41 pm

Nero,

Its time for you to light the garden torches.

Recon 0311 2533

November 27th, 2012
1:42 pm

TBS,

This is not 04 this is 4th. Qtr. 012 and we have excessive unemployment, weak GDP growth a 16 trillion dollar deficit that’s growing each day and a world situation on the brink of war not to mention a significant number of people who’re committed to our destruction as a nation. Now in addition to these rather serious issues we have a president that based on pandering symbolism to his far-left base wants to raise taxes on those earning over 250K annually, which will account for 802 billion dollars over 10 years. Broken down annually that increased revenue would fund the the federal government for 8 days. This president purports to have drawn a line in the sand on this paltry increase in the face of a looming fiscal disaster in about one more month. The Democrats can thump their chest and do victory dances but it’s time to wear long trousers and it doesn’t seem the left gets that message.

JamVet

November 27th, 2012
1:43 pm

stands, perhaps Sandra Fluke and Rush Limbaugh could share the Person/Slut/Prostitute of the Year Award.

Because they both had a big hand in the recent GOP thumping!

Women voters – 55% for BHO and 44% for WMR.

The cons have probably lost the female vote in this country forever. How righteous is that?!

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
1:43 pm

Media Matters has been working overtime on this, even attacking a teenager

yeah, I learned about the recent butthurt-over-Media-Matters riff whilst perusing this butthurt over Fluke outlet.

East Lake Ira

November 27th, 2012
1:44 pm

Huntsman continues to show why he should’ve been the first Morman nominated: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/27/jon-huntsman-benghazi-susan-rice_n_2198698.html?1354040812

Thank goodness you nuts on the right have no sense.

Thanks! Please keep up the good work. /snark/

pete

November 27th, 2012
1:45 pm

Hard to beat Santa Claus.

Nero

November 27th, 2012
1:47 pm

YouLibs,

Remove your lips from Kamchump’s backside, and let go of your paranoia. You leeches are hilarious! :)

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
1:47 pm

yeppers, “pete”, you guys go right on riffing that civilization, in the form of an orderly and effective government, equals “free stuff.”

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 27th, 2012
1:47 pm

Hey Scooter, Good to see ya!

Donovan

November 27th, 2012
1:47 pm

Hussein: Did I hurt your angry liberal feelings? Sure sounds like it. See you tomorrow, Lefty.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
1:48 pm

Recon — “This president purports to have drawn a line in the sand on this paltry increase in the face of a looming fiscal disaster in about one more month. The Democrats can thump their chest and do victory dances but it’s time to wear long trousers and it doesn’t seem the left gets that message.”

Here’s a message for you to get.

Your side LOST. That means we’re not doing things your way. Got it?

Jefferson

November 27th, 2012
1:48 pm

Recon your babbling is a waste of time, you are bitter and of little consequense. Be mad, my friend.

Butch Cassidy (I)

November 27th, 2012
1:48 pm

muchshalom – “Even at this point you seem more obsessed with Fox News than any concern that the nation deserves to know about it’s governments’ activities around the globe.”

Agreed! I for one would like to know where the WMD’s are. Can we start there and work our way forward?

Aquagirl

November 27th, 2012
1:48 pm

The Democrats can thump their chest and do victory dances

Why thanks, don’t mind if I do.

You lost.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 27th, 2012
1:49 pm

dB

From Atrios twitter: (and I’m assuming it’s about the Sandra Flue thingie)

basically my whole life path can be explained by the fact that a girl refused to kiss me when we were playing spin the bottle in 8th grade

Recon 0311 2533

November 27th, 2012
1:49 pm

“Just don’t give him any credit at all for getting bin laden and keeping us safe…”

You’re correct…. I give him credit for issuing the order but no I don’t give him credit for getting bin Laden. As or for keeping us safe, no I don’t give him credit for that either.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
1:51 pm

Donovan — “Hussein: Did I hurt your angry liberal feelings? Sure sounds like it.”

Not at all, chew-toy. BTW, I enjoyed taking you to school. Let’s do it again real soon. (laughing, pointing) :D

“See you tomorrow, Lefty.”

Sounds good, Champ. Hurry back so I can smarten you up some more. (giggling) :D

Recon 0311 2533

November 27th, 2012
1:52 pm

“Recon your babbling is a waste of time, you are bitter and of little consequense. Be mad, my friend.”

Jeff, it must be of consequence for you or you wouldn’t bother to complain. BTW…I’m not your friend.

Stevie Ray

November 27th, 2012
1:54 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
12:33 pm

Now now, don’t you go and lump me into “y’all” re birther crap…never my cup of tea…its is clear that more information is to come…too soon to turn the page on this one..

pete

November 27th, 2012
1:55 pm

Obama offers free stuff, and 51% of the public would rather have free hand outs than actually work for it. It really is that simple.

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
1:55 pm

Kam, the A-man went on to say (at his blog): “I’m reasonably confident Sandra Fluke will not be the person of the year, even though she probably should be.”

Recon 0311 2533

November 27th, 2012
1:55 pm

“Here’s a message for you to get”

JHM, you have nothing worthwhile to give. Got it?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 27th, 2012
1:56 pm

It really is that simple.

There’s your sign.

Real Scootter

November 27th, 2012
1:57 pm

Good to see you too Corbin! I havn’t been here much because it is hunting season but I just figured that I was here when you weren’t,then USinUK said something to you about ladders and I finally put 2&2 together!

Butch Cassidy (I)

November 27th, 2012
1:57 pm

pete – “Obama offers free stuff, and 51% of the public would rather have free hand outs than actually work for it. It really is that simple.”

Right, no one who voted for Obama is wealthy. Gotcha.

getalife

November 27th, 2012
1:57 pm

President Obama crushed you twice del.

Bow down.

Aquagirl

November 27th, 2012
1:59 pm

it must be of consequence for you or you wouldn’t bother to complain.

Hon, you have mistaken “pointing and laughing” with “complaining.”

I guess when your worldview gets flushed like a dead goldfish hanging around here for negative attention is your only consolation. We’re here for you buddy. Anytime you need a reminder you lost like a drunk in Vegas we’re more than happy to supply the slam dunk in your face.

Citizen of the World

November 27th, 2012
1:59 pm

Few events have so thoroughly and indisputably burst the Fox News bubble as election night 2012. But there are many other examples of where the network persisted in promoting a certain version of events despite all evidence to the contrary. Several studies have shown that Fox News viewers are more misinformed than uninformed. Yet, Fox News fans can’t face facts, do not want to be confused by the facts. An intervention is in order.

I challenge Fox News viewers to turn away, just say no! Go for six weeks without any Fox. Get your news and information elsewhere. And before you turn around and challenge the rest of us to only watch Fox News — cause I’m pretty sure that’s what you’re thinking — bear in mind that we are not among the blind being led around by those who will not see. You are.

Recon 0311 2533

November 27th, 2012
1:59 pm

“Bow down.”

get, I’ll leave that to you. You sound like you’re probably good at doing so.

Peace

November 27th, 2012
2:00 pm

The lives of four Americans aren’t all that important. Nothing could have saved them … so they did nothing. Thanks, Jay. Now I understand.

curious

November 27th, 2012
2:00 pm

The Pentagon covered up (lied) on Pat Tillman to protect Bush, just like Susan Rice lied to protect Obama.

Panama Red

November 27th, 2012
2:02 pm

Bookman, shut up and let it go. The guy got re-elected, it’s over, your leftist president is still in charge, and this article doesn’t mean jack anymore, nor will it change anything. You’d be better off writing news articles for Pravada……except that they would probably censor everything you wrote there.

getalife

November 27th, 2012
2:02 pm

del,

I think you are better at bowing down for the wealthy so include our President while you are bowed down.

He is a millionaire.

pete

November 27th, 2012
2:02 pm

“Now, now, now…don’t worry about the economy and those silly terrorists. I have lots of toys to hand out, and the terrorists are on the other side of the world. Besides, I got bin Laden!”

B. Obama
aka ‘Your Daddy’

Recon 0311 2533

November 27th, 2012
2:03 pm

get, I am wealthy. And yes I built it.

Vernon Flaas

November 27th, 2012
2:04 pm

I don’t watch Fox new, but I still would’ve figured Mitt would’ve been able to beat an anti business, unaccomplished, affirmative action cadidate, half-breed Barrack Hussein Kardashian.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 27th, 2012
2:05 pm

dB

I think that the twitter was not about Atrios’ experience, but the motivation behind the reaction to this possible nomination, and I only caught it ’cause I follow the boggsters twitter.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
2:05 pm

Recon — “JHM, you have nothing worthwhile to give. Got it?”

And you’re going to receive it whether you like it or not? Got it?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 27th, 2012
2:05 pm

You’d be better off writing news articles for Pravada

Ohh goodie, I hope he includes some photos of Anne Hathaway! :D

They BOTH suck

November 27th, 2012
2:05 pm

Recon

And you have your right to your opinion. If you believe what Bush said was applicable in 04, you are being a hypocrite if you do not believe the same today when Obama had more EC votes and a larger margin of victory in the popular than Bush.

This isn’t horse shoes and hand grenades, close doesn’t count. Obama isn’t going to make Romney, Co-Prez because of the votes totals. Obama will not get everything he wants and shouldn’t, but he also shouldn’t cave on all things because you and others were more than ok with Bush’s close victories but now want to stomp sour grapes into whine because Obama won a fairly close popular vote but a EC vote beat down.

“Elections have consequences” Bush

“I plan to use the political capital I earned from the election” Bush

When the person you vote for wins, I’m sure you want them to use their capital to exert as much influence as possible to push the agenda they ran on.

Why would you expect any different if it doesn’t go your way?

Alex

November 27th, 2012
2:05 pm

“complete Meat shambles”, …Big 10 or big 12 minus Ohio State and Penn State it’s INSIGNIFICANT. Dec in Inndianapolis, yowza, party till it’s January, when it’s even colder.
But really, good luck, we’ll ALL be watching…………..!!?? Nebraska, smart state, went Romney……
Didn’t Lawrence Phillips play for the BIG RED……..Fine young man, now how did good old Tom Osborne (repub) keep him eligible?

More BBQ sauce please.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
2:07 pm

P. Red — “Pravada”

Wuzzat? One’a those new Kia sedans they’re building down in West Point? :D

Real Scootter

November 27th, 2012
2:08 pm

Dang,hereI was thinking things would simmer down here after the election.Boy was I wrong! Whew

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
2:08 pm

Recon — “get, I am wealthy. And yes I built it.”

Hope you didn’t get any sort of gubmint contracts. :D

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 27th, 2012
2:10 pm

This blog……..is just eat up……with………………..people on their………………periods……………………………..

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 27th, 2012
2:11 pm

Scooter,
Yeah, ladders will get you every time. I wanted to change my Nom de Blog for awhile but waited until after the election to do it. I just didn’t want to be the “normal” one here any more. I’m still the same tree hugging liberal trapped in an old white mans body I was though… :D

Aquagirl

November 27th, 2012
2:11 pm

B. Obama
aka ‘Your Daddy’

After much soul-searching, pete finally comes up with the answer to “who’s yo daddy?” Yessiree, it’s that dark guy in the Oval Office.

Good boy petey.

Stevie Ray

November 27th, 2012
2:11 pm

pete

November 27th, 2012
1:55 pm

Seems much truth to your comment…LIB scare tactics about SS, Medicare, welfare, medicaid and the likes going away and given to fat cats worked like a charm. Romney could have won if it weren’t for Romney…I’m not big fan of BO but in this case, he seems the best of the worst…

hope he keeps his promises better than from 2008

Recon 0311 2533

November 27th, 2012
2:11 pm

“And you’re going to receive it whether you like it or not? Got it?”

Joe, I guess you didn’t get it. I said you had nothing worthwhile to give. Liking or disliking doesn’t enter into it. Now run along.

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
2:12 pm

Wuzzat? One’a those new Kia sedans they’re building down in West Point?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I thought he was talking about writing for a fashion magazine or something.

Peace

November 27th, 2012
2:14 pm

Four dead Americans. Didn’t even warrant a ‘beer summit’ at the White House.

Citizen of the World

November 27th, 2012
2:14 pm

The meeting with Rice has concluded and McCain et.al. are now saying they are “more concerned than ever,” or something along those lines.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 27th, 2012
2:14 pm

Wuzzat? One’a those new Kia sedans they’re building down in West Point?

Nope.

I saw a call girl last night and asked for the full pravda.

Recon 0311 2533

November 27th, 2012
2:15 pm

Okay my right wing rhetoric upset some of you with fragile leftist egos. I’ll give y’all a break for awhile but I’ll be back.

That Black Guy

November 27th, 2012
2:16 pm

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
11:58 am
Mick: The way I see it, the ocean is big enough for all, why should sharks get any special preference?

Maybe because their bite is worse than their bark?

My actual rule is that I don’t swim in water where I can’t see the bottom or see quite a distant off. I also don’t wade into water beyond where I can clearly see my feet. I prefer to remain in a position of advantage when it comes to the predatory hierarchy tree.
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BINGO!!

I used to love to swim in the Hillsboro River when I lived in Tampa.

That was until I found out that Bull sharks loved the Hillsboro River just as much.

I gladly sacrificed my joy for their comfort. :lol:

BTW,

HI EVERYBODY. Hope you all had a GREAT Turkey Day.