The Benghazi narrative spun by Fox now in ruins
For at least a few conservatives, Election Night opened eyes about the danger of confining yourself to the right-wing information echo chamber. Because out here in the real world, as opposed to ConservaWorld, it turned out that the polls weren’t skewed, Mitt Romney wasn’t surging and a majority of the American people really did want to re-elect Barack Obama as their president.
Those who had relied on Fox “News” for their information were prepared for none of that.
To my mind, though, the utter collapse of the Fox narrative regarding the attacks on our consulate in Benghazi should be at least as instructive for those who are willing to see things as they are, rather than how they wish them to be. For more than two months, the network and those in Washington who follow its lead tried to create a firestorm of controversy regarding Benghazi, but time and again, as facts came to light, each right-wing claim about Benghazi was exposed as false and inflammatory.
Let’s review the litany, shall we?
“It never would have happened if consulate security had been bolstered as requested!”
No feasible level of consulate security could have saved the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team against an assault by 50 to 100 armed attackers.
“This only happened because under Obama, nobody is afraid of us anymore!” As Charles Krauthammer slickly phrased the argument on Fox, “these are the fruits of apology and retreat and lack of confidence in our own principles.”
Under President Bush, seven U.S. consulates or embassies were attacked, including those in Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia and Syria, with considerable loss of life. But unlike Benghazi, none of those attacks became the pretext for crass partisanship.
“They refused to bring in the AC-130 gunships that could have saved the ambassador.”
The closest AC-130 was 2,500 miles away, in Afghanistan.
“They had Special Forces units sitting there in Italy ready to intervene but instead the cowards just watched our people die!”
The Special Forces units in question did not arrive in Italy until several hours after the attacks had ended, and were never in position to have played a role.
“UN Ambassador Susan Rice lied to the American people, and by doing so disqualified herself from consideration to become secretary of State.”
Rice accurately communicated to the American people the best, most current information as assembled by our intelligence community. There is no evidence that the intel assessment was altered for partisan political reasons, and former CIA Director David Petraeus and current Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper have informed Congress of that fact.
However, the best indication of how completely the Fox narrative has collapsed comes from recent events on Capitol Hill. Sen. John McCain, who had heatedly pledged that “I will do everything in my power to block (Rice) from being the United States’ secretary of State,” has backed off that pledge and in fact is meeting with Rice today. Sen. Lindsey Graham, who had charged that Rice had disqualified herself from consideration, has also changed his tone and is also meeting with Rice today.
Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had earlier accused Rice of lying and said she would not be a “fitting replacement” for Hillary Clinton at State. Yesterday, Inhofe acknowledged that “I’m not at all convinced of that now.”
Those men may yet decide to vote against Rice, should she indeed be nominated by the president. But they appear to understand that they allowed their partisanship and anger to cloud their judgment, which is why they’re now moonwalking things back as quietly as possible.
In addition, State Department and congressional investigations into the Benghazi tragedy are still under way and may yet produce lessons into how such setbacks can be avoided in the future. That again is how it ought to be: When mistakes are made, you try to learn from them and get smarter, so you don’t repeat those mistakes the next time.
Right?
– Jay Bookman
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Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:26 am
vomiting green crap?
straitroad
November 27th, 2012
10:26 am
Jay, your issue is that you only discuss what you think are mistakes made by those that you do not agree with. In this regard, you’re very similar to Rush or Hannity, just with different colored stripes. You reference an “echo chamber” in your post. That’s exactly what your blog is, the only difference being the political alignment of those in the chamber.
alex
November 27th, 2012
10:27 am
@ Bizarre Gop: YOU need a life……
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 27th, 2012
10:28 am
Always amazing that somehow disproving the conspiracy cover-up claims and providing the truth about the sequence of events which disproves all of Fox’s factiness contentions is, to the real conned wingnuts, not caring about 4 dead.
But hey, how many people died today because they did not get medical care in time because they were not insured? The wingnut concern about body counts seems limited in true concern.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:29 am
straitroad — “You reference an “echo chamber” in your post. That’s exactly what your blog is, the only difference being the political alignment of those in the chamber.”
Well, that and Jay’s not an obese druggie molestasaurus with ten million rabid followers.
nelson
November 27th, 2012
10:29 am
everybody knows more than me. all I can say is I would not want to be the ambassador or envoy to Benghazi and counting on President O to send in some protection while i am in a strange hostile unstable government. All the time the Prez is playing footsie with the Muslims.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
10:30 am
vomiting green crap?
Oscar, you really need to catch up on your “movies everybody has seen” list.
emo
November 27th, 2012
10:30 am
‘When mistakes are made, you try to learn from them and get smarter, so you don’t repeat those mistakes the next time.’
Not if you’re a republican; you just blame Obama.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
10:30 am
To Fox News…
http://cheezburger.com/6676999168
alex
November 27th, 2012
10:31 am
@ straitroad, He’s an opinion writer (i.e. HIS opinion)…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 27th, 2012
10:32 am
Ah, …………………….. you left a very important one out !
“Let’s review the litany, shall we?”
“The premise of the entire debate is false, because the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was not an act of terror.” http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/17/on-benghazi-the-debate-and-acts-of-terror/
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:33 am
“Not if you’re a republican; you just blame Obama.”
and the voters.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
November 27th, 2012
10:33 am
Good Lord Nelson, please do share your knowledge and provide proof of this footsie playing with the Muslims, I can;t wait…..
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
10:33 am
Oscar
Reference to “The Exorcist”
Head spinning…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSxuXQCEC7M
green vomit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QjrBjdb2T8
Lord Help Us
November 27th, 2012
10:34 am
Funny…the digit idgit reminds me of a starving dog holding onto a porkchop…
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
10:34 am
Isn’t the institution where JT met the girl who committed suicide?
Wouldn’t surprise me, but I hadn’t actually heard that.
oh, and UnU–tasteful Robbie Robertson tune, but was I supposed to hear yodeling?
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:35 am
Aquagirl – Probably true. Just don’t get out much to movies anymore.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
10:35 am
When mistakes are made, you try to learn from them and get smarter, so you don’t repeat those mistakes the next time.’
Not if you’re a Democrat; you just blame Bush.
Robert Lee - Cogito ergo zoom
November 27th, 2012
10:35 am
Dang it JHM, you made me snarf my diet coke….
an obese druggie molestasaurus ….
straitroad
November 27th, 2012
10:36 am
Joe – “Well, that and Jay’s not an obese druggie molestasaurus with ten million rabid followers.”
The name calling on this board isn’t necessary. Some of your fellow posters may be obese, it’s probably more than ten milion, and I don’t know how many of them are rabid.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
10:36 am
Probably true. Just don’t get out much to movies anymore.
Neither do I, but missing both “WOLVERINES!!!”
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:36 am
Bro – Never saw the Exorcist. Did read the book. Kept me awake for a month.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:37 am
“oh, and UnU–tasteful Robbie Robertson tune, but was I supposed to hear yodeling?”
hahaha … no – but it was his voice I had in mind when I said that. (on a somewhat related note, a friend of mine told me there is a recording of Robbie Robertson singing “Teddy Bear Picnic” … dying to find it)
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:37 am
Loves — “Not if you’re a Democrat; you just blame Bush.”
We did learn from that mistake. Perhaps you missed the last two Presidential elections.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
10:38 am
…oops, wrong button. Anyway Oscar, missing both “WOLVERINES!!!” and the spinning head with green vomit in one day…man, that’s weak.
straitroad
November 27th, 2012
10:38 am
alex, yes he is an opinion writer who criticizes the opinions of other opinion writers. Plus, Jay is a big boy. He probably doesn’t need you to come to his defense.
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 27th, 2012
10:39 am
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid – “Not if you’re a Democrat; you just blame Bush.”
Riiiiight. That explains all the press junkets and public appearances that Bush made on Romneys behalf during the election. Tell me , what was the most memorable quote from GW during Romneys RNC convention?
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:39 am
Saw the first Red Dawn on tv . Skipping the new one. North Korea invading?
And avoid any movie with vomit scenes. Except liked the one in “The Great Santini.”
Real Scootter
November 27th, 2012
10:40 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 27th, 2012
10:32 am
No matter how many times you post that here it will be ignored. Nice try though!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:41 am
“Riiiiight. That explains all the press junkets and public appearances that Bush made on Romneys behalf during the election. Tell me , what was the most memorable quote from GW during Romneys RNC convention?”
well played!
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
10:41 am
Bush’s mistake was that he spent money like a Liberal (see wars and Medicare Part D) and he happened to be the President when the housing market collapsed (through no fault of his own). Obama has given us much,much,much more of the same and that’s why we are in the mess we are in. Fiscally, the last 2 elections have not changed our economic situation much. We do have a black President that loves his class warfare though :-0
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
10:42 am
Aquagirl,
Never saw The Exorcist, but I think the original “Wolverine!” is still the best. I did see “Rose Mary’s Baby” and Read King’s “Pet Cemetery” Promised myself I’d never see another move or read another book like that. I still shudder…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:42 am
straitroad — “The name calling on this board isn’t necessary.”
Unless and until you’re ready to call out your own ideological compatriots for doing it, you can go jump in a lake for all I care.
“Some of your fellow posters may be obese”
Then again, you might be yourself.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
10:43 am
Oscar
That movie is as old as I am, and I still get the heebee jeebees when it’s on. The first two books I remember reading were “Jaws” and “Christine”. I read both of them by the time I finished the 5th Grade. To this day, I don’t swim in the ocean, and I will not touch a 1950’s Plymouh Fury.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
10:43 am
you left a very important one out !
Scout, since you insist on reposting this, I guess I gotta return the favor.
This is why today’s speech by Gov. Rick Perry rings so true. We need the “real church” to stand up and be counted:
“An unholy church is useless to the world. It is of no value. It is an abomination. It is hell’s laughter and heaven’s abhorrence. The worst evils that have ever come on the world have been brought by an unholy church.”
Charles Spurgeon
Alas, our country is full of “unholy” churches and even entire “unholy” denominations.
Just sayin ……………………………
Could you please tell us all which of the Christian denominations you regard as entirely “unholy”, please?
Thanks!
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:44 am
Loves — “Bush’s mistake was that he spent money like a Liberal (see wars and Medicare Part D) and he happened to be the President when the housing market collapsed (through no fault of his own).”
The lack of self-awareness among these cons is truly staggering at times.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
10:45 am
I did see “Rose Mary’s Baby” and Read King’s “Pet Cemetery” Promised myself I’d never see another move or read another book like that. I still shudder…
Welcome to the club. Stephen King ain’t right… but I can’t put his books down when I get my hands on one. There’s probably a support group out there somewhere for me.
straitroad
November 27th, 2012
10:46 am
Joe, lighten up.
Tundra Dude
November 27th, 2012
10:46 am
Again….???
Think I got BO, (Benghazi Overdose)
Guess I’ll go shopping at the mall…stimulate the economy a bit…
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 27th, 2012
10:46 am
<. . .and then today Mitt Romney posted a bizarre photo on Facebook from their family Thanksgiving in which a shiveled looking Mitt is leaning on an allegedly cooking Ann Romney.
Well, I reckon I must not think like most people. The question I have is, why’s she wearing a sweater like it’s cold and why’s he wearing a t-shirt with what looks like sweat stains under his arm hole?
alex
November 27th, 2012
10:47 am
@ straightroad, new to the blog? I am not often accused of defending Jay…just wait ’till we get to Krugman…..
Anyway, so who gave Ralphies brother the Zepplin?…….
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:47 am
Psycho kept a lot of people from taking showers for a long time.
DannyX
November 27th, 2012
10:48 am
“Obama has given us much,much,much more of the same and that’s why we are in the mess we are in.”
It must be horrible living in that Fox News fog.
For instance, that housing market you mentioned? Foreclosures at 5 year low, home prices up, construction up.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
10:48 am
straitroad — “Joe, lighten up.”
Take a hike, threadmarm. (giggling)
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:49 am
After seeing the “Shining” I stayed away from old hotels with long hallways for a while.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
10:50 am
Tell me , what was the most memorable quote from GW during Romneys RNC convention?
boy howdy, that was a barn-burner. Remember how Mitt joked that GWB was now the “Secretary of Explaining Sh-t”?
Finn de Siècle (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 27th, 2012
10:51 am
LOL, very short Fox News interview:
http://www.alternet.org/how-end-fox-news-interview-abruptly-call-fox-wing-republican-party
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:52 am
“After seeing the “Shining” I stayed away from old hotels with long hallways for a while.”
and kids on big wheels
Nero
November 27th, 2012
10:52 am
Good morning leeches!!
You ready for the let down? Say goodbye to your precious mortgage deduction and get ready to have those 401Ks taxed. Haha!! The messiah is gonna stab you in the back once again, and you all keep marching lockstep like lemmings. Chumps! You better pray for sequestration. Better to know what’s coming than getting bent over by ‘our Lord and Savior”. Leeches always line up like good little sheep. Lol!
Oscar
November 27th, 2012
10:54 am
It must be horrible living in that Fox News fog.
_______
Expect the same coming from them for a least four more years. And four more unless the GOP wakes up and comes back to the real world.
But if the GOP did that, where would the right wing group go. They would be off by themselves. South and West glued together out of touch with the rest of the country.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:56 am
“Say goodbye to your precious mortgage deduction and get ready to have those 401Ks taxed”
we live just fine here without a mortgage deduction … you will too
your 401K IS taxed when you start cashing out, dear.
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
10:56 am
Oscar @ 10:49
You’re ok just as long as one of your kids isn’t mentioning something about red rum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iwK2jwqFfk
I got in-school suspension because of a classmate who could do that voice so well..
alittlecommonsense
November 27th, 2012
10:56 am
In Jay’s echo chamber, democrat talking points = facts.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
10:56 am
And which specific Obama policy do we owe the ‘HOUSING REBOUND’ to?
I’ll save you a post….Crickets chirping….
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
10:57 am
“And which specific Obama policy do we owe the ‘HOUSING REBOUND’ to?
”
okay, I’ll play.
to what specific GOP Congressional policy do we owe the housing rebound to?
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
10:58 am
In case you hadn’t noticed, the country is split right down the middle and Conservatives can’t afford to go anywhere lest the country continue it’s spiraling descent. Deal with it.
clem
November 27th, 2012
10:59 am
nero, how long have you been a nutbar? and alittlecommonsense ought to change your moniker to ihaveverylittlecommonsense.
Jefferson
November 27th, 2012
10:59 am
Nero is a full pip.
Aquagirl
November 27th, 2012
10:59 am
You’re ok just as long as one of your kids isn’t mentioning something about red rum
If I ever had two little blonde girl twins I would drown them at birth.
JohnnyReb
November 27th, 2012
10:59 am
Jay, your piece was a little premature. NO kumbaya in the Rice/Repub Senator meeting that just adjourned.
I also note that if Repubs are being led astray by FOX, a similar force of a different pole is working its magic on you.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
11:00 am
That’s the problem, USinUK, nobody is doing anything in Congress or the Presidency. However, all I ever read on Jay’s blog is how wonderful, great, etc Obama is and it just ain’t true. I hope it’s ok to have an opinion on an opinion blog :-0
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 27th, 2012
11:01 am
Bro
10:43 am
I read both of them by the time I finished the 5th Grade. To this day, I don’t swim in the ocean, and I will not touch a 1950’s Plymouh Fury.
——————————–
That’s cause you are a wuss LOL
You sure you are from Bama
Scuba Steve
November 27th, 2012
11:04 am
Molestasaurus! I literally just died.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:04 am
“That’s the problem, USinUK, nobody is doing anything in Congress or the Presidency. ”
yeah. well, there are some people who are more at fault than others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc
Carlos
November 27th, 2012
11:04 am
The British had already closed their consulate in Benghazi due to the heightened danger from Salafist militias. We neither closed nor reinforced ours, against repeated requests from our own people in Libya.
Susan Rice was a, perhaps, unwitting participant in an effort to blame the deaths on a riot caused by a nutcase video, rather than the organized attack that was known from the outset. She chose to stick with her script under some strong cross examination, knowing that her interviewers were getting diametrically opposite reports from their own people on site.
Unless the “intelligence” agencies responsible for the misrepresentation thought that the militia leaders had IQs of 80, their excuses for their public talking points were flimsy. The perpetrators well know that we would be looking for them. They knew that their pronouncements had a political impact in a close fought presidential election.
So did Ambassador Rice. United States diplomats aren’t supposed to be participants in political campaigns. THAT’s the problem that she’s got.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
11:05 am
However, all I ever read on Jay’s blog is how wonderful, great, etc Obama is
I will dump on the Preznit for turkee.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:05 am
“Molestasaurus! I literally just died.”
well.
not literally.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:05 am
Spoken like a true expatriate leech. Count on it. Your 401Ks are gonna be “tweaked” and you’ll owe on those as well. Get ready for the let down. It’s coming. Better to embrace sequestration.
Stevie Ray
November 27th, 2012
11:06 am
JAY
Why do you continue to blast Fox news…the easiest targets going? Anyhow, it will be interesting to see what we learn although if any aspect was handled poorly, it will get buried as neither Bush nor BO will allow release of anything negative.
You seem 100% sure this issue is behind you….we will see.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:08 am
Jefferson is a full leech. Cue The Jefferson’s theme song…
Brosephus™
November 27th, 2012
11:10 am
NoCom: That’s cause you are a wuss LOL
You sure you are from Bama
Quick question for you to test your observational skills… How many Blacks have been victims of shark attacks since Jaws came out as a movie?
We don’t play that!!
DannyX
November 27th, 2012
11:10 am
“Obama has given us much,much,much more of the same and that’s why we are in the mess we are in.”
Hey Kool-aid guy, you can’t defend your ridiculous comment can you?
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:10 am
Thanks for the tip clem. It’s coming and you can’t stop it. You gotta be hating it.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
11:11 am
S. Ray — “You seem 100% sure this issue is behind you….we will see.”
Well, okay. If you say so.
. . .
So are we done with the birth certificate thing now or what?
Donovan
November 27th, 2012
11:14 am
We seem to have an over confident left wing attack against Fox News, don’t we comrades? It would seem that all the liberal main stream media operatives are way out in front of this damaging Obama scandal.
I shall clear up a few fallacies that Comrade Bookman stated in this morning’s propaganda release. Nothing could have saved Ambassador Stevens? When you are doing very sensitive CIA work in a country riddled with an Al Qaeda presence the show of force protection must be limited. When you are trying to secure Russian shoulder fired SA7 missiles the task becomes unmanageable with large numbers of personnel. The ambassador’s life would have been saved had a force of 100 operators been stationed there. The State Dept. ruled against that scenario to preserve their cover. It back fired.
The Bush reference is nonsense. Any consulate or embassy that was attacked was very limited to minor damage caused by individual perpetrators. There was never any large loss of life. Mr. Bookman is reading G.I. Joe comic books.
There were AC-130 gunships closer than 2,500 miles away. There could have been one on station within 60 minutes. We have the capability to respond quickly in the North African theater with various forms of munitions. Trust me and not the liberal news media.
Special forces in Italy could have been utilized, but were told to stand down due to higher command oversight. The State Depart. was in confusion and the window of opportunity was lost. However, Mr. Bookman failed to mention that the Obama regime also failed to adequately secure the aftermath with proper security. There are numerous CIA and Joint Force assets all over N. Africa that could also have played a supporting role in the rescue of our people left behind.
Our U.N. Ambassador, who carries the water for the Obama regime, dutifully carried out the ruse of a spontaneous attack while the regime tried to cover their stories. Those stories don’t add up comrades.
Senators McCain, Graham, and Inhofe are feeling the collective efforts of the Obama regime to tone down their rhetoric under the cloak of national security. Just like the Contra gun running deal, Libya and Syria are not out of the mix yet.
The best defense is a good offense. Stifle Fox News, stifle activist senators, and repeatedly mention the need for more and more State Dept. and congressional investigations. As time goes on, people get less interested and complacent.
Based on the liberal cesspool I swim in, my post will inevitably be attacked as fodder for you elitists. Open your eyes and think for yourselves. Try not to be the cows who blindly follow the Bookman cow with the bell.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:14 am
“Spoken like a true expatriate leech.”
um. yeah. darlin’, you’re stuck in a rut.
“Count on it. Your 401Ks are gonna be “tweaked” and you’ll owe on those as well. Get ready for the let down. It’s coming. Better to embrace sequestration.”
decaf, sweetie. you should think about the switch. you’re positively all aflutter.
Scuba Steve
November 27th, 2012
11:14 am
UnU
No, literally! I am posting from beyond the grave! OOOOoooOOoooooo (It’s Tuesday, I’m bored. Gimme a break, will ya?)
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 27th, 2012
11:14 am
Nero, prove it or shut up, please.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 27th, 2012
11:15 am
Anyhow, it will be interesting to see what we learn although if any aspect was handled poorly, it will get buried as neither Bush nor BO will allow release of anything negative.
No matter how many Fox/wingnut claims fail and are discredited, like all good followers of the birther conspiracy mindset (now also Benghazi), there is always something “else” and the nonfactual factiness claim that “BO will [not] allow release of anything negative.”
YouLibs
November 27th, 2012
11:16 am
Nero
I wish I had a nickel for every terrible thing that right-wing nutcases assured me was going to happen if Obama was elected/reelected that hasn’t happened. I could probably rent our friend’s house at Panama City Beach for a week.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
11:17 am
Donavan — “There were AC-130 gunships closer than 2,500 miles away. There could have been one on station within 60 minutes. We have the capability to respond quickly in the North African theater with various forms of munitions.”
As has been pointed out several times here, 105mm cannon are not the sorts of weapons you should be using in a suburban neighborhood (where the consulate was located) in an ostensibly friendly nation.
“Trust me and not the liberal news media.”
Given your exhibited poor judgment, I see no reason to repose trust if you if you claim that the sun will come up in the morning.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
11:17 am
If my comments are so ridiculous, why are we staring at a Fiscal Cliff 4 years into Obama’s presidency? You can blame Bush all you want, but Obama campaigned the first time on fixing the mess. Reagan fixed Carter’s mess so we know it can be done.The one opportunity he had with regards to pass legislation with his name on it was a waste called Obamacare. Why wasn’t it legislation to move the economy forward? The Messiah has not delivered and the oceans aren’t receding. Epic fail so far.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
11:19 am
I take it this “they are taking yer 401k” meme is some kind of ongoing smokescreen from the right to provide cover for the Village so it can
anally rapeswindle Americans under a Simpson/Bowels grand bargain thingie, yes?Wonder what form the smokescreen will take/has already taken from the left. hmm.
BRW
November 27th, 2012
11:20 am
Next person who feeds the Nero (”leech is my middle name”) troll gets banned by the Park Ranger! (So says Yogi and BooBoo).
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 27th, 2012
11:21 am
Donovan: Trust me and not the liberal news media.</I.
My nominee for one of the funniest posts for 2012!
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:21 am
Bless your heart! A leech that’s concerned. Nah, I’ll be fine. Have you steeled yourself for the stab in the back yet? It’s coming.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
11:21 am
I appreciate sparring with JHM and DannyX but I must go shower know that I have been on Bookman’s blog for so long. This Producer has to go produce so Obama has money to throw at his voters.
stands for decibels
November 27th, 2012
11:22 am
why are we staring at a Fiscal Cliff 4 years into Obama’s presidency?
We aren’t. this F#scal Cl!ff” you refer to, It’s merely a silly bit of expiration-date legislation that will be addressed like every other bit of silly expiration-date legislation.
It’s not my fault that you’re not bright enough to look past a stupid corporate media narrative. Sheesh. Take some personal responsibility for your news gathering, willya?
DannyX
November 27th, 2012
11:23 am
“If my comments are so ridiculous, why are we staring at a Fiscal Cliff 4 years into Obama’s presidency?”
You still can’t back up your claim, ““Obama has given us much,much,much more of the same and that’s why we are in the mess we are in.” You keep changing the goal line.
Btw, holiday spending is way up.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 27th, 2012
11:23 am
“No, literally! I am posting from beyond the grave! OOOOoooOOoooooo (It’s Tuesday, I’m bored. Gimme a break, will ya?)”
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:24 am
Corbin Bernsen,
The let down is gonna be especially harsh for you. It’s ok buddy. I’ll hold your hand if you need courage.
Common Sense
November 27th, 2012
11:24 am
“I’m more troubled today, knowing–having met with the acting director of the CIA and Ambassador Rice,” Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R., N.H.) said, “because it’s certainly clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al Qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy.”
It’s good Jay got his narrative out there prior to the non-Fox News driven interviews from the Senators that met and spoke with Rice.
clayton co.
November 27th, 2012
11:26 am
Housing rebound?????, here, where, ..REBOUND, must be about basketball..lots of empty nets down here….
TaxPayer
November 27th, 2012
11:26 am
Poor nero must be trying to psyche himself out for the coming FOUR MORE YEARS he must endure.
Jefferson
November 27th, 2012
11:29 am
Laughing at the pip Nero, so shallow and predictable. ha, ha
CJ
November 27th, 2012
11:30 am
Update: Given an opportunity to save face, McCain & Associates double down.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/11/27/ambassador-susan-rice-biography-benghazi/1728985/
getalife
November 27th, 2012
11:30 am
“ConservaWorld” aka la la land.
Let them stay in la la land to continue to lose elections.
Let them stay the course.
Loves Me Some Obama Kool-Aid
November 27th, 2012
11:32 am
Unemployment is up over Bush too so what does that mean Danny boy?
Follow this if you can:
Libs say Bush spent us into economic problems.
Obama has spent way more than Bush.
Libs say Obama has improved our economy by spending more than Bush.
Now you know why they drink the Kool-Aid. It replaces reasoning and facts.
Nero
November 27th, 2012
11:33 am
Are you ready for the messiah’s betrayal TaxLeecher? I’m ready and excited. Are you? It must suck to know you’re gonna get thrown under the bus and nothing will change. Come on board the sequestration bus. I’ll save you a seat.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 27th, 2012
11:33 am
Loves — “I appreciate sparring with JHM”
Don’t compliment yourself. You’re more of a diaper-changing partner than a sparring partner.