No, Speaker Boehner. Some things have no pricetag

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From Politico:

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“President Barack Obama made a demand of House Speaker John Boehner near the end of their first White House meeting on the fiscal cliff: Raise the debt limit before year’s end.

Boehner responded: ‘There is a price for everything.’”

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There is a price for everything. How lovely.

I’ll tell you what the price OUGHT to be: $223,500. That’s how much Boehner is paid each year by the taxpayers of this country to do his job. And as Boehner knows as well as anyone, a basic part of that job is ensuring that the government does not default on its debt.

Let’s be clear: Raising the debt ceiling does not authorize so much as a penny more in spending. It merely allows the Treasury to borrow the money to pay the bills that previous Congresses and presidents have already incurred. If Boehner can’t or won’t handle that basic responsibility, he needs to resign.

This is really amazing if you think about it. In the 18 times that the debt ceiling had to be raised under Ronald Reagan, did it ever once cross Speaker Tip O’Neill’s mind to tell the president that, well, “There is a price for everything”?

On one of the seven occasions in which the debt ceiling had to be raised under President Eisenhower, did Speaker Sam Rayburn ever sidle up and say “Ike, you know, there is a price for everything”?

No. It was unthinkable. Rayburn, O’Neill and other speakers were horse-traders at heart, but they were also patriots who understood that some things just aren’t negotiable commodities, and the full faith and credit of the United States is one of them. Even Newt Gingrich balked at playing that card. And why?

Because in effect, Boehner and his fellow House Republicans are threatening to do great damage to this country if their “price” is not paid. They’re trying to shake down the president of the United States, using the welfare of the country as their hostage.

“Splendid little country you have here. It would be a tragedy if anything were to happen to it.”

It’s no better than a husband trying to win an argument with his wife by threatening to do harm to one of their kids. “Leverage,” Boehner calls it. It’s despicable, and Obama ought to call his bluff.

– Jay Bookman

572 comments Add your comment

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 27th, 2012
3:12 pm

It’s despicable, and Obama ought to call his bluff.

Effin’ a skippy!

David Shivers

November 27th, 2012
3:17 pm

Boehner and some of his cronies? Statesmen? No. Leaders? No. Just politicians in the worst sense of the word.

fedup

November 27th, 2012
3:20 pm

Obama call his bluff and do to the speaker what Clinton did to Newt.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
3:20 pm

Mr. Speaker, if you’re not up to the job, then step aside and GTFO.

East Lake Ira

November 27th, 2012
3:21 pm

He’s a weasel.

He’s also the putative leader of the GOP now.

Y’all should be ashamed.

getalife

November 27th, 2012
3:23 pm

I did not expect the gop to change but this guy handed out checks on the house floor .

Figures.

josef

November 27th, 2012
3:28 pm

Boehner stinks. What else is there to say? Well, as the IMAM would say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Z2MP8vMWU

Doggone/GA

November 27th, 2012
3:28 pm

“Obama call his bluff and do to the speaker what Clinton did to Newt.”

I agree

Logical Dude

November 27th, 2012
3:31 pm

“Hold on while I hold the country hostage. . . again. .. while I sit in the corner and whine that I’m not getting what I want.”

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
3:32 pm

Remember:

when Boehner threatens to collapse our entire financial system in order to gain leverage, that’s just politics.

When Reid says he’ll do a modest rules change that would make people who filibuster bills actually *filibuster* them on the floor of the senate, that’s a “nuclear option.”

That is how our corporate media will be ’splaining it, anyway.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
3:33 pm

If he doesn’t get his way, will he cry again?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 27th, 2012
3:34 pm

Well, just because a guy’s despicable is no reason to call him out. We got lots of nasty people in this country. Like the ones that come up behind me on the road last weekend and saw the Romney/Ryan bumper sticker on my pickup and yelled filthy names at me. I can’t say what they called me but the first word was “stupid” and the second one rimed with “hit.”

Anyhow, Obama’s got the Boner by the short hairs after this election and I can’t hardly blame the Boner for using any weapon that’s handy to defend hisself.

That’s my opinion and it’s very true. Have a good p.m. everybody.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 27th, 2012
3:34 pm

Once again the GOP demonstrate their failure of comprehension of what “Country First!” means.

Nero

November 27th, 2012
3:37 pm

Why don’t you leeches just raise taxes. It’s the responsible thing to do.

michael

November 27th, 2012
3:37 pm

yep, it is Grover first for most of them.

RB from Gwinnett

November 27th, 2012
3:38 pm

Jay, “According to the Pentagon — and they should know, since they tend to keep track of such things — there was no AC-130 sitting on the ground in Tripoli or anywhere near there. If you have evidence to contradict the Pentagon, produce it and cite your source.”

According to the Pentagon, who make up the BS story about a youtube video and why?

Pax

November 27th, 2012
3:39 pm

From someone who lives in Speaker Boehner’s House district— Boehner is the weakest Speaker of the House in many generations

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 27th, 2012
3:39 pm

Wonder what price Boehner paid to have those naked protestors in his office? ;)

Simple Truths

November 27th, 2012
3:40 pm

Jay, when is enough debt enough?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 27th, 2012
3:40 pm

I thought the clownfish in that movie was called Nemo…….

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
3:40 pm

It’s no better than a husband trying to win an argument with his wife by threatening to do harm to one of their kids. “Leverage,” Boehner calls it. It’s despicable, and Obama ought to call his bluff.

Damn right!!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 27th, 2012
3:41 pm

Jay

From your twitter feed: WHO says compromise is needed? Gridlock is a feature of the constitution, not a bug.

I enjoyed your reply, but as long as this mind-set is even acceptable I’m afraid that this incident and Norquist aren’t going away anytime soon.

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
3:42 pm

Simple Truths, why can they bust me for something that grows in the *ground*, man?

STUPID LIBERAL

November 27th, 2012
3:42 pm

as in previous presidents, you also mean the current one as well ??

Paul

November 27th, 2012
3:42 pm

Spkr Boehner seems to have forgotten the meaning of the oath he swore when he assumed his duties. Then again, maybe there’s a price to pay for that, also.

Next news conference – or better yet, White House briefing – that remark by Boehner ought to form the basis of the response to the question of “how go the talks?”

And these guys can’t figure out how they lost.

Shalondria

November 27th, 2012
3:42 pm

At the risk of seeming clueless I’m wondering why we even have a debt ceiling. Since, as Jay points out, it perpetually gets raised almost automatically what really is the point?

RB from Gwinnett

November 27th, 2012
3:45 pm

Doggie, Jay has a post for you downstairs. You should check it out.

Joey, if you really think anybody believes the whining from you tools is because the Romney’s took a legal tax deduction for a business expense that’s beyond their financial means, you’re only fooling yourself. They can’t afford the plant Porche is building near the airport (deducted expense), the new jets Delta purchases(deducted expense) or the stage equipment Bon Jovi buys for his tours either (all deducted business expenses). But I don’t hear you tools whining about any of that. Shovel your garbage on somebody else, Joey, cause I ain’t buying it.

Alex

November 27th, 2012
3:46 pm

YOU don’t think that LBJ implied there was a price for everything during his days as “Master of the Senate”……Weak day today ,very weak. Yes, your Rabble will Rabble, but for the Speaker to say what he did??
I’m shocked. shocked to find gambling…..”
“Help me Ricky, please-help me”

“Let’s be clear—-Then something about a husband and children–a GREAT, Happy Valley education…..

Don Abernethy

November 27th, 2012
3:49 pm

Our country will have to have an economic heart attack before Jay and his fellow liberals are convinced that there IS A PRICE FOR EVERYTHING. This economic collapse under the present administration is a matter of when and not if it will happen.

Simple Truths

November 27th, 2012
3:49 pm

When Ike was president, the debt ceiling was raised by $23 billion. I bet Speaker Sam Rayburn would have asked Ike questions if Ike asked to raise the debt limit by $1.9 trillion.

But to Jay, $1.9 trillion is just a drop in the bucket.

Paul

November 27th, 2012
3:50 pm

Shalondria

It’s a legal matter. Appropriations are available only to the extent authorized by law. Congress appropriates the funds. If it does not have have adequate receipts from tax revenues then there must be another source, in this case, borrowing. So Congress has already approved the expenditure of funds. What Republicans are now saying is ‘we granted initial legal authority to spend, but we will not make that possible because we won’t grant the authority to obtain the funds.”

It’s really a case of double-dealing hypocrisy on the part of Republicans.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 27th, 2012
3:51 pm

hmmmm….. was a red card just thrown?

Scooter

November 27th, 2012
3:52 pm

Republicrats have offered to increase revenues through tax code simplification and are now entertaining raising certain taxes within our existing, overly complex, tax code. Republicrats know that is simply a band aid for the much larger crisis of looming insolvency of entitlements. Now tell me exactly what the democrats have offered for a long term solution of reforming those entitlements. It certainly seems like the Democrats are doing the shell game again, demanding tax increases on a promise they will do something about the real problem later. Noticed they didn’t try to reform jack before adding the Affordable Care Act and that is bound to be another over extension of the purse strings..

clem

November 27th, 2012
3:54 pm

nero, take your meds…..and did you do the cleanup on aisle 5?

Jaynie

November 27th, 2012
3:54 pm

Let the tax cuts expire, go over the cliff and be done with it. We will survive. We will go back to the Clinton era tax rates and just think how prosperous we were then. Well, there was that pesky dot com bubble that burst, but that was nothing compared to the housing bubble.

I cannot understand why people who are supposed to educated, reasonable, functioning, elected members of Congress cannot act like the adults they are supposed to be. Yes, I can. It’s because they act like idiots and people vote for them anyway.

President Obama should call the GOP bluff and tell the good speaker to pack sand.

Paul

November 27th, 2012
3:54 pm

Scooter

Which entitlements?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
3:55 pm

RB — “Joey, if you really think anybody believes the whining from you tools is because the Romney’s took a legal tax deduction for a business expense that’s beyond their financial means, you’re only fooling yourself.”

RB, you asked a question, you got an answer and it wasn’t the one you wanted. Too effing bad for you.

“But I don’t hear you tools whining about any of that.”

:roll:

We’re quite capable of making our own arguments, RB. We don’t require your repeated inaccurate, uninformed and hamfisted attempts to speak for us.

“Shovel your garbage on somebody else, Joey, cause I ain’t buying it.”

By the way, RB, where are my fleet fueling figures? If you’re going to be a jerk about your questions not getting the answers you want, then certainly two or more can play that same game with *you.*

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 27th, 2012
3:55 pm

Scooter, weren’t you and the other GOPpers telling us how Obama cut $700 billion from Medicare…. seems like you are false about either that or the claim that the Dems have not done anything about entitlements. So which is it?

stands for decibels

November 27th, 2012
3:56 pm

I bet Speaker Sam Rayburn would have asked Ike questions if Ike asked to raise the debt limit by $1.9 trillion.

And what if Ike said he planned to use an “Inter Net” to solicit input from citizens? Boy howdy, that Rayburn woulda had somethin’ to say about that too.

Simple Truths

November 27th, 2012
3:57 pm

When Ike was president, the debt ceiling was reduced twice (http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/federalbudgetprocess/a/US-Debt-Ceiling-History.htm). I don’t see Jay referencing that. Doesn’t fit the narrative.

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
3:57 pm

But to Jay, $1.9 trillion is just a drop in the bucket.

$1.9 Trillion is just a drop in the bucket for the GOP too. Maybe you should read the increases in the Ryan Budget Plan. Every single GOP House member who voted for that budget acknowledged a debt limit increase to at least $23 Trillion plus over the next 10 years. So, if they affirmed that for Rep. Ryan, why won’t they do it for Obama?

Class of '98

November 27th, 2012
3:57 pm

Dumbest headline ever. Everything has a price, Jay. Some things have no pricetag? To quote Thornton Mellon, “Tell THAT to the bank.”

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 27th, 2012
3:58 pm

clem, I think Nero got a red card…. ;)

Scooter

November 27th, 2012
3:59 pm

Paul, certainly you know which entitlements are busting our bank and don’t need me to tell you.

Keep Up the Good Fight, that was not me and please elaborate on the entitlement reforms you feel the Democrats have offered.

Stevie Ray

November 27th, 2012
3:59 pm

JAY

Here we go again…you are whining about the debt ceiling again..what may I ask else to the dopes on the right have to bargain with compared to the dopes on the left? “It’s despicable”? Really…in other similar situations you would refer to this as “politics as usual”..

I hope BO gets everything he wants and the GOP cave. Then we will see just how the deficit and debt grow geometrically until 2016..both may simply double again as DEMs only real game that doesn’t hurt them politically is taxing the rich…7% of the problem. Beautiful.

Nero

November 27th, 2012
4:00 pm

No clementine that wasn’t me. But I promise you can have a few dollars after you bag my groceries.

Li'l Aynie

November 27th, 2012
4:00 pm

The “debt ceiling” is a political contrivance that covers the inability of Congress to devise and pass a federal budget. It should not merely be raised: it should be eliminated.

Nero

November 27th, 2012
4:01 pm

Nope. Still here. Nice try with your “I’m telling mom!” to Bookman.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
4:01 pm

Brosephus — “Every single GOP House member who voted for that budget acknowledged a debt limit increase to at least $23 Trillion plus over the next 10 years. So, if they affirmed that for Rep. Ryan, why won’t they do it for Obama?”

I think we both know the answer to that.

Deficit spending: IOKIYAR

JOE COOL........

November 27th, 2012
4:01 pm

Boehner needs to realize that he can “go missing” for the next 20years…lol

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 27th, 2012
4:02 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 27th, 2012
4:02 pm

Scooter, are you denying the claims of the GOP and Mitt regarding medicare or just denying that you did not believe it as if that somehow exempts your broadbrush regarding the GOP and the Dems?

Alex

November 27th, 2012
4:02 pm

@ Paul, thank you for an erudite discussion—this happens all the time,no: unfunded mandate. Another cute way the politicians pass something that never happens….a COMMON occurrence for decades!

Get me Rex Kramer

November 27th, 2012
4:02 pm

As someone who is going to have to start “paying my fair share”, where are the spending cuts Jay? Is Obama going to agree to real cuts, and no new spending?

JOE COOL........

November 27th, 2012
4:04 pm

You have got to see this lol:

Naked Protesters Occupy John Boehner’s House Office

http://news.yahoo.com/naked-protesters-occupy-john-boehners-house-office-200657958–abc-news-politics.html

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
4:04 pm

Stevie Ray

I’ll ask you the same question…. Why is it ok to agree to increase the limit to $23 Trillion plus for Rep. Ryan but not give the same increase to Obama?

Scooter

November 27th, 2012
4:04 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight, that was not me and please elaborate on the entitlement reforms you feel the Democrats have offered.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
4:05 pm

S. Ray — “I hope BO gets everything he wants and the GOP cave. Then we will see just how the deficit and debt grow geometrically until 2016..both may simply double again”

Ah, ah, ah, Stevie. I’ve got to keep you honest here. The debt *hasn’t* “grown geometrically” or even ‘doubled’ under President Obama.

The debt *did* double under President Bush, though.

You might want to recheck your figures, sir.

Stevie Ray

November 27th, 2012
4:05 pm

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
3:57 pm

We both know that tax cuts are real and should be increased to some degree on those over IMO $150K. However, if anyone really thinks this amount which is between 6-8% of the problem is gonna solve our ills they are dreaming and need to wake up.

Tax changes are easy to enact and very, very difficult to reverse. No way a fraction of all these cuts that are all the talk in DC will occur…if so, they will not likely be enacted for 10 years or more. Keep raising the debt ceiling, deficit and debt…it’s political suicide to cut anything…despite the fact that there is plenty to cut..

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
4:05 pm

JHM @ 4:01

That’s the only logical answer. I don’t see anything else that answers that question.

indigo

November 27th, 2012
4:05 pm

“but they were also patriots”

Jay, for Republican politicians, those patriot days are long gone. Their one and only allegiance is to Big Business, which funds their election and re-election campaigns. Lengthy terms in office not only satisify their lust for power but provide generous finacial rewards and ensure a cushy retirement.

Money talks.

Peadawg

November 27th, 2012
4:07 pm

Ah yes, the campaign is over and back to politics as usual.

Move along folks…nothing new to see here.

Jay

November 27th, 2012
4:08 pm

Simple, there were no votes taken to lower the ceiling. What you’re seeing is the effect of two temporary debt ceiling increases. Once the temporary increase ended, the limit fell back to what it had previously been, which then necessitated another increase.

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
4:08 pm

However, if anyone really thinks this amount which is between 6-8% of the problem is gonna solve our ills they are dreaming and need to wake up.

Once again, I’ll point out that Obama’s increase that he’s proposing is ten times the increase that the GOP enacted last year. The GOP’s idea for debt busting was to hit up Fed employees to the tune of $75 Billion over 10 years. As you often cite, Obama’s proposal is for approximately $80 Billion per year over 10 years. Seems as though someone who’s earning 7 figures a year can afford to part ways with money a bit more than an E-1 in the Army who can’t rub two nickles together during the middle of the month.

N-GA (on the winning side 2 federal elections in a row!)

November 27th, 2012
4:11 pm

Perhaps we need to drug test ALL politicians. After all, they are taking taxpayer money and doing nothing for it!

Paul

November 27th, 2012
4:11 pm

“Paul, certainly you know which entitlements are busting our bank and don’t need me to tell you.”

C’mon, Scooter, there are plenty of people on here who really don’t know what you’re speaking about. They’re likely to link all entitlements together and think they’re all a problem, when you know they’re not. So how about picking out the ones ‘busting our bank’ so other readers will know to what you are referring?

Halftrack

November 27th, 2012
4:12 pm

The House Republicans should call Obummer’s bluff. They will cut taxes at the rate of 3 dollars of cut per spending for each 1 dollar raise in taxes. Then ask Obummer to go first on the cuts. Spending is our problem not taxes. Please carp on spending for a change.

Stevie Ray

November 27th, 2012
4:12 pm

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
4:04 pm

It’s not ok…it’s politics…and it sucks..

JOE

You are correct…it will take him the next 4 years to double the amount increased by Bush in 8 years. Bush increased it by 5 trillion, under current regime, it has already increased 6 trillion…if the trend continues, a doubling of an increase will actually take place..BO will take debt from 10 trillion to 16 trillion to over 20 trillion…IMO.

Geometric…

curious

November 27th, 2012
4:13 pm

Sequestration requires spending cuts; just not where the Republicans want them, even if they did vote for them.

They may be getting what they asked for.

barking frog

November 27th, 2012
4:17 pm

There is a price for everything. Probably the most honest thing Boehner
has said to the President.

Scooter

November 27th, 2012
4:17 pm

Paul, if people don’t know which entitlements are approaching insolvency, well… I guess they are the uneducated who think it is only the republicrats who are unwilling to negotiate a solution.

Jefferson

November 27th, 2012
4:18 pm

Reasonable people can come to reasonable conclusions under reasonable conditions, unless you are a republican.

Let it be known.

Stevie Ray

November 27th, 2012
4:18 pm

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
4:08 pm

I’m not sure where we got to E-1’s but lets say we get 80 bln a year from the “rich”. That’s only really gonna help if we double up or better on the cuts and make sure they happen. We need to get the annual deficit down and increasing revenue is very limited..heck we can’t even count on the CBO’s assumptions in terms of economic growth…a leading cause of failed, dysfunctional decisions over the past 20 plus years.

I will run down Peachtree nekkid if any of these cuts, especially to defense and safety net waste, actually are realized…

N-GA (on the winning side 2 federal elections in a row!)

November 27th, 2012
4:18 pm

Paul – Cockroaches hide from the light.

Peadawg

November 27th, 2012
4:19 pm

Reasonable people can come to reasonable conclusions under reasonable conditions, unless you are a politician.

Fixed your typo.

Paul

November 27th, 2012
4:19 pm

Alex

” Another cute way the politicians pass something that never happens….a COMMON occurrence for decades!”

That touches on another of my concerns over the Republican emphasis on ‘reforming deductions’ vs changing the marginal rates.

We know many of the deductions got in place not after great discussion, but were quietly slipped into much larger bills that were bound to pass. I’d bet House majority leadership knows full well that if they have to accept only deduction changes that some time down the road the process will repeat: get a large donation, slip in a deduction or exemption.

If marginal rates are changed, that will not be the case. Those do not get changed merely by burying a line in a bill.

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
4:20 pm

It’s not ok

My point exactly.

Congress f**ked with my retirement with their stonewalling the debt limit increase. I lost money because of the fluctuation of the stock market. Then, they tried to f**k with my retirement with legislation dealing with the debt limit. Now, Boehner’s threatening the same sh*t all over again. At this point, I say F**K YOU Boehner, and F**K YOU Congress. Why should I continuously have to suffer when nobody else does??? Am I less than a regular citizen because I choose to serve my country as opposed to serving myself?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
4:21 pm

S. Ray — “JOE

You are correct…it will take him the next 4 years to double the amount increased by Bush in 8 years. Bush increased it by 5 trillion, under current regime, it has already increased 6 trillion…if the trend continues, a doubling of an increase will actually take place..BO will take debt from 10 trillion to 16 trillion to over 20 trillion…IMO.”

I agree. *If* current spending/revenue patterns continue, then yes, both Bush and Obama will have presided over a doubling of the national debt during their administrations; Bush from ~$5T – ~$10T and Obama from ~$10T – ~$20T.

I am sure that we both agree that such a situation is untenable and must be stopped at all costs.

So how are we going to do it? Democrats clearly want a combination of revenue increases and spending cuts — can we agree on that as a starting point, or are you in favor of spending cuts only?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 27th, 2012
4:21 pm

Paul, if people don’t know which entitlements are approaching insolvency, well…

Paul didn’t ask if some”people knew, what he was asking was if you knew.

Your deflection is answer enough.

Paul

November 27th, 2012
4:21 pm

Get me Rex Kramer

” Is Obama going to agree to real cuts, and no new spending?”

Does he get to count the extra trillion for Defense Republicans wanted but won’t happen now?

Jefferson

November 27th, 2012
4:21 pm

Pea, you are acting exactly like a republican. Your loss.

Peadawg

November 27th, 2012
4:21 pm

Good ‘ol compromise…raise the debt limit with no questions asked.

Same s*t, different day.

josef

November 27th, 2012
4:23 pm

BROSEPHUS

“Am I less than a regular citizen because I choose to serve my country as opposed to serving myself?”

Evidently, in the eyes of the politicians at any rate.

Peadawg

November 27th, 2012
4:24 pm

“Pea, you are acting exactly like a republican. ” – B/c I disagree with you? B/c I actually hold ALL politicians on Congress responsible, not just “the other side”?

Um k…..

:roll:

Say what Jay, about FOX News (I know, this is old news)...

November 27th, 2012
4:24 pm

In a closed-door meeting that Rice requested, the ambassador answered questions from Sens. John McCain, Lindsey Graham and Kelly Ayotte about her much-maligned explanations about the cause of the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. She was joined by acting CIA Director Michael Morell.

“The talking points provided by the intelligence community, and the initial assessment upon which they were based, were incorrect in a key respect: There was no protest or demonstration in Benghazi,” Rice said in a statement after the meeting. “While we certainly wish that we had had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack, as is often the case the intelligence assessment has evolved.”

So, is FOX still wrong? Even if the guys you said now support her DO NOT?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
4:24 pm

Brosephus — “Am I less than a regular citizen because I choose to serve my country as opposed to serving myself?”

I have no idea how Federal employee retirements work (except for military retirements, and I don’t know a lot about that TSP component that came in after I got out). Could you give us a 25-cent rundown on it?

Paul

November 27th, 2012
4:25 pm

Scooter

“Paul, if people don’t know which entitlements are approaching insolvency, well… I guess they are the uneducated who think it is only the republicrats who are unwilling to negotiate a solution.”

It kinda comes across as you’re broad-brushing and aren’t to sure which are the problem. That is, for many they’ll repeat the mantra of “Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.”

Question is, is Social Security an entitlement that’s breaking the bank (not just for Scooter, anyone else please feel free to chime in).

Say what Jay, about FOX News (I know, this is old news)...

November 27th, 2012
4:25 pm

The afore written is also known as “THE REST OF THE STORY but commie Jay only wants the watered down version mentioned to his nimrods…

Say what Jay, about FOX News (I know, this is old news)...

November 27th, 2012
4:26 pm

“U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice told lawmakers Tuesday that her initial explanation of the deadly Sept. 11 raid in Libya was wrong, but her concession failed to mollify three Republican senators who signaled they would oppose her possible nomination to be secretary of state.”

Paul

November 27th, 2012
4:26 pm

N-GA

Good to hear from you.

barking frog

November 27th, 2012
4:27 pm

Patriotism has a price that has been paid in blood and treasure.
I would prefer to pay in treasure.

Brosephus™

November 27th, 2012
4:27 pm

I’m not sure where we got to E-1’s but lets say we get 80 bln a year from the “rich”. That’s only really gonna help if we double up or better on the cuts and make sure they happen.

We got on E-1’s because you keep insisting that Obama’s idea is worthless. I’m pointing out that his “idea” is much better than the GOP’s actions. The 2 year pay freeze will contribute $60B over 10 years towards debt reduction. Congress also increased the contribution that feds pay towards their retirement, which generated another $15B to debt reduction over 10 years. For the GOP to claim they don’t want to hurt the middle class, they sure are f**king with me and my peers much harder than they are squeezing the top 1%.

JamVet

November 27th, 2012
4:27 pm

…commie Jay…

Is that you Alan West?

Writing while waiting in the unemployment line?

getalife

November 27th, 2012
4:27 pm

“Perhaps we need to drug test ALL politicians. After all, they are taking taxpayer money and doing nothing for it!”

Great idea..

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 27th, 2012
4:28 pm

RICE: We didn’t mean to lie…

drudgey spam

SO what does the moocher class know about NOT mooching?...

November 27th, 2012
4:28 pm

“Let’s be clear: Raising the debt ceiling does not authorize so much as a penny more in spending. It merely allows the Treasury to borrow the money to pay the bills that previous Congresses and presidents have already incurred.”

Borrow, borrow, borrow – nothing about STOP SPENDING…

Joe Hussein Mama

November 27th, 2012
4:29 pm

Say What Jay — “So, is FOX still wrong? Even if the guys you said now support her DO NOT?”

How come y’all have no problem giving Bush, Cheney and Rice a pass for bad intel on 9/11 and Iraq, yet the possibility of bad intel in Benghazi is just nowhere to be seen with y’all?

alittlecommonsense

November 27th, 2012
4:29 pm

Let’s be clear: The constitution requires congress to pass a budget to the president annually. If Reid can’t or won’t handle that basic responsibility, he needs to resign.

*fixed*

Nero

November 27th, 2012
4:30 pm

Rise all taxes 5 points across the board. Cut all federal programs 5 percent across the board. Show the leeches what true courage is.

getalife

November 27th, 2012
4:30 pm

The economy is improving so the only thing blocking it is the gop.

Get the f out of the way of business gop.

You are a regulation we can get rid of.