Fox News exposed on its own turf
What happens on Fox “News” if you challenge one of their most-cherished narratives?
If you’re Tom Ricks, author, Pulitzer Prize winner and former military affairs reporter for The Washington Post, the interview ends abruptly and you’re sent quickly packing, probably ensuring that you will never see Fox air again.
Nicely done, Mr. Ricks. (Transcript below).
It got me to thinking, though. Back in the day, David Allan Coe had a country hit titled “You Never Even Called Me by My Name,” which he claimed was damn near the perfect country song. All it lacked was a mention of “momma, or trains, or trucks, or prison or gettin’ drunk.” So Steve Goodman, who had co-written the song with John Prine, sat down to write Coe a new closing verse. It went like this:
“Well, I was drunk the day my momma got out of prison,
And I went to pick her up in the rain.
But before I could get to the station in the pick-up truck,
She got runned over by a damned old train.”
So … what would be the perfect Fox “News” non-story? If you were a Fox “News” producer, and you wanted to dream up the segment that would punch every button for your audience, what would it be?
The Benghazi attacks were carried out by the New Black Panthers to recover evidence that Obama had really been born in Kenya?
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TRANSCRIPT:
JON SCOTT (co-host): Pressure mounting on the Obama administration over its response to the deadly attack on our consulate in Benghazi, as [Fox News correspondent] Catherine Herridge reported just minutes ago. Several top GOP lawmakers are backing off their criticism of U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, instead focusing on the White House. Two senators even expressing concerns about a possible White House cover-up. Let’s talk about it with Tom Ricks. He is author of The Generals. He has spent decades covering our military. He joins us now.
Senator John McCain said in the past he would block any attempt to nominate Susan Rice to become U.N. — I’m sorry, secretary of state. She’s currently the U.N. ambassador. He seems to be backing away from that. What do you make of it?
RICKS: I think that Benghazi generally was hyped, by this network especially, and that now that the campaign is over, I think he’s backing off a little bit. They’re not going to stop Susan Rice from being secretary of state.
SCOTT: When you have four people dead, including the first dead U.N. ambassador — U.S. ambassador in more than 30 years, how do you call that hype?
RICKS: How many security contractors died in Iraq, do you know?
SCOTT: I don’t.
RICKS: No. Nobody does, because nobody cared. We know that several hundred died, but there was never an official count done of security contractors dead in Iraq. So when I see this focus on what was essentially a small firefight, I think, number one, I’ve covered a lot of firefights. It’s impossible to figure out what happens in them sometimes. And second, I think that the emphasis on Benghazi has been extremely political, partly because Fox was operating as a wing of Republican Party.
SCOTT: All right. Tom Ricks, thanks very much for joining us today.
RICKS: You’re welcome.
– Jay Bookman
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Real Scootter
November 26th, 2012
8:31 pm
And the playground retorts begin!!!! I love this stuff.
DebbieDoRight - Dems use actual math and ratios to counter the republican magic based economic plan.
November 26th, 2012
8:31 pm
Hiya josef!!
alex
November 26th, 2012
8:32 pm
@Josef–thanks.
RF
November 26th, 2012
8:34 pm
“There seems to be a lot of pity making the rounds at Jay’s Place the last several days”
Well, my granny always did smile and say “bless their hearts, they just cain’t hep it” at the family down the road that had that ‘Deliverance’ look… (kinda like looking over at Kyle’s, but that’s just my opinion)
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
8:35 pm
“Ironic how Demwits love to harp on Fox news while most of them are getting their information from Comedy Central”
Got proof of that?
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
8:36 pm
“And the playground retorts begin!!!! I love this stuff”
Yeah, well…playground insults don’t deserve any better
Oscar
November 26th, 2012
8:38 pm
RF
As Richard Petty used to say about one of his rival drivers: “He never outgrowed his raising.”
Maybe that’s their problem.
Krystal'sBalls
November 26th, 2012
8:38 pm
The real truth is you get more “TRUTH” on Comedy Central’s “Daily Show” and “Colbert Report” than you will EVER get from cable “opinion news” – left OR right wing.
Anyone who denies that is just an outright F’n liar and out of tune with life in general. The bonus is, it’s entertaining.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
8:39 pm
“Ironic how Demwits love to harp on Fox news while most of them are getting their information from Comedy Central”
“Got proof of that?”
Doggone – I suspect there’s as much proof in that comment as there is in “all conservatives are just Fox News puppets.”
JKL2
November 26th, 2012
8:39 pm
RF- JKL2: at least we aren’t eat up with bitterness.
Guess you missed the whole OWS movement. If you want to see hate, your looking on the wrong side of the isle.
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
8:41 pm
“The bonus is, it’s entertaining.”
Maybe to some people. Personally, I’ve never been able to sit through an entire show of either one. I got bored…REAL quick
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
8:41 pm
Krystal – Yeah, you just gotta love those arrogant, smug, self-righteous guys like Colbert.
RF
November 26th, 2012
8:41 pm
“As Richard Petty used to say about one of his rival drivers: “He never outgrowed his raising.”
I always like that generation of drivers. The younguns out there now just don’t have the character their daddies did, IMO.
That is indeed their problem. They’ve been ginned up on eating briars for so long that they just can’t handle anything else.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
8:41 pm
What isle? Nobody said anything about an island?
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
8:43 pm
“Doggone – I suspect there’s as much proof in that comment as there is in “all conservatives are just Fox News puppets.””
I wouldn’t know, since I don’t watch Comedy Central either.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
8:44 pm
That’s grand.
DebbieDoRight - Dems use actual math and ratios to counter the republican magic based economic plan.
November 26th, 2012
8:44 pm
IT: Even Romney decided to duck and cover on the Benghazi story that the cons and Fox was airiing 24/7. Ever woinder why?
The conned don’t ask those questions — if they do,they may get answers that they don’t want to hear.
RF: I don’t know how Hannity and O’Reilly do it day to day with such a straight face.
They keep thinking about that big fat check they’re going to get for their books, appearances, etc……
Oscar: Never ask a question unless you know the person and know what kind of answer you get.
And never ask a question if there is an answer that will not be acceptable to you
That should be the Faux News motto!
JamVet
November 26th, 2012
8:45 pm
No, guy, if you have paid attention, I don’t blow my own horn.
Not about my intellect, stunning good looks or charm. (LOL.)
I am merely contending that your observation about Jay’s bitterness is hard to reconcile given his words…
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
8:45 pm
“Krystal – Yeah, you just gotta love those arrogant, smug, self-righteous guys like Colbert.”
You DO realize that his schtick is to mock O’Reilly…don’t you?
RF
November 26th, 2012
8:45 pm
“If you want to see hate, your looking on the wrong side of the isle.”
Over here on the left, it’s easy to see over to the wrong side of the aisle…and you guys are just eat up with bitterness, and have been for four years. You’ve used McCarthyism until it’s all you know how to do. You’ve spent the last four years trying everything you could to make people believe that the socialist muslims are out to take over and dismantle our God-given republic, and the simple, bare truth that not enough people bought your brand of hate and fear just blows your minds. Keep at it though, you’re giving the Comedy Central guys PLENTY to make fun of.
josef
November 26th, 2012
8:46 pm
RF
One of my Mama’s that I like was,”be nice, now. They’re as good as they know how to be. Bless their hearts.”
Real Scootter
November 26th, 2012
8:46 pm
Yeah, well…playground insults don’t deserve any better
I agree Doggone but it makes me think our Pols are doing the same thing in DC. Jus sayin……
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
8:47 pm
Doggone – A jackass is a jackass.
RF
November 26th, 2012
8:47 pm
“They keep thinking about that big fat check they’re going to get for their books, appearances, etc……”
DDR: ain’t it sad how much of their hard-earned money delusional folks throw at those guys when they get proven wrong time and again? And they call us radical.
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
8:49 pm
“I agree Doggone but it makes me think our Pols are doing the same thing in DC. Jus sayin”
Of course they are. Behaving like a bunch of spoiled brats..
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
8:50 pm
RF – Sort of like all that money that the Democrats throw at wellfare recipients? Talk about being proven wrong time and time again. Oh well, give people free stuff and they’ll vote for you. I guess it has paid off for ‘em.
RF
November 26th, 2012
8:51 pm
josef: where would we be without wise southern mommas to train us right….that and pop us on the back of the head when we said something impolite! I got my jaws rattled for saying an ugly word at my mom’s kitchen table when I was 21 years old, and deserved every stinging moment of it!
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
8:51 pm
“Doggone – A jackass is a jackass.”
But there’s a difference between BEING a jackass, and ACTING one. I’ve heard both of the interviewed and Colbert is interesting. O’Reilly is a jackass.
Recon 0311 2533
November 26th, 2012
8:52 pm
Then we have James Clapper or Crapper a stooge for the Obama administration. This administration won a second term but will go down in history as the most corrupt and incompetent of any this country has endured. And Jay talks about Fox News, how pathetic.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
8:52 pm
Doggone – Sorry, I just never cared for either one of them, especially Colbert.
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
8:53 pm
“Sort of like all that money that the Democrats throw at wellfare recipients”
I see that you are of the school that would prefer to see them starving in the streets.
RF
November 26th, 2012
8:53 pm
“RF – Sort of like all that money that the Democrats throw at wellfare recipients? ”
Actually, welfare money is voted on time and again by members of both parties, just to be precise, and I don’t recall any sizable reduction in it when you guys had the majorities in both houses.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
8:54 pm
I just have a problem with living off the public dollar for your entire career.
RF
November 26th, 2012
8:55 pm
“This administration won a second term but will go down in history as the most corrupt and incompetent of any this country has endured”
Geez, I thought we were past the GWB bashing here….
Krystal'sBalls
November 26th, 2012
8:55 pm
People get it mixed up and it’s funny actually. They actually BELIEVE that people who watch Stewart and Colbert do so to get “information” or “news”. My guess is people who enjoy those two already HAVE access to various news sources. They however also have a deeply cynical streak that tells them that a lot of what we get from cable “news” and our politicians is a bunch of BS! So we like to tune in to two guys who actually have a PLATFORM to boldly poke fun at all the BS that is attempted to be slid by us on a daily basis. Now I find Fox News watchers… that is where they get their “information”, and what shapes their entire political, social…philosophy. BIG difference.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
8:56 pm
RF – I thought he was talking about Carter.
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
8:56 pm
“I don’t recall any sizable reduction in it when you guys had the majorities in both houses”
AND the White House. It was right up there in importance with ending abortions
josef
November 26th, 2012
8:56 pm
RF
“If you want to see hate, your looking on the wrong side of the isle.”
“I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made:
Nine bean-rows will I have there, a hive for the honey-bee,
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.”
–W.B Yeats
ZamVet
“I don’t blow my own horn.”
A tooter who tooted a flute,
Tried to tutor two tooters to toot.
Said the two to the tooter.
“Is it harder to toot,
Or to tutor two tooters to toot?”
They BOTH suck
November 26th, 2012
8:56 pm
“This administration won a second term but will go down in history as the most corrupt and incompetent of any this country has endured.”
Actually if you are into facts and not fiction, the Obama administration has much catching up to do to come even close to the Reagan administration. Over his two terms more folks in his administration were investigated, indicated and convicted than any other in history.
ODD OWL
November 26th, 2012
8:57 pm
Fox Fantasy News ==> All the fantasy news fit to televise, brought to you by the Ole Brooklyn Lantern Co… The Fox Fantasy News on air propagandists are Tokyo Rose clones…
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
8:57 pm
“I just have a problem with living off the public dollar for your entire career”
What do you have against government employees?
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
8:58 pm
No one could possibly beat Carter for incompetent, nor Clinton for corrupt.
josef
November 26th, 2012
8:58 pm
DEL
It’s gotta pass US Grant and Warren G. Harding if it’s aiming to go down as the most corrupt in history, and those two are a hard act to follow…
Rightwing Troll
November 26th, 2012
8:59 pm
Faux news flat out lied to you wingnuts over the last 4 months about EVERYTHING, hence the massive and collective crushing of your hateful little hopes and dreams due to Obama’s landslide…
why would they start telling the truth to you wingnuts now???
They BOTH suck
November 26th, 2012
8:59 pm
Recon
Even the Clintonista gang didn’t come close the that Reagan crew.
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
9:00 pm
“No one could possibly beat Carter for incompetent, nor Clinton for corrupt”
It’s easy to see that history was not your best subject.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
9:00 pm
Have you ever dealt with government employees? Actually, I had overlooked them, and was thinking about public housing lifers, but you bring up a good point. Government employees do get a paycheck and they don’t do a whole lot more than the public housing lifers.
JKL2
November 26th, 2012
9:01 pm
RF- You’ve spent the last four years trying everything you could to make people believe that the socialist muslims are out to take over and dismantle our God-given republic, and the simple, bare truth that not enough people bought your brand of hate and fear just blows your minds.
Seems that right wing radical newspaper Pravda agrees with me: http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/11/26/pravda-the-communists-have-won-in-america-with-obama/?utm_source=Daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2012-11-26_181482&utm_content=5377188&utm_term=_181482_181490
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
9:02 pm
I was finished with College long before Clinton was elected. I am not depending on revisionist history for my assessment of him. As for Carter, well, what can you say?
DebbieDoRight - Dems use actual math and ratios to counter the republican magic based economic plan.
November 26th, 2012
9:02 pm
RF: DDR: ain’t it sad how much of their hard-earned money delusional folks throw at those guys when they get proven wrong time and again? And they call us radical.
Yep — those Poutraged Charlatans are getting rich off the backs of the conned duped. How many birther books are out there now? 6? Not to mention a few of these:
The Obama Nation
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$7.99
The Amateur
› Edward Klein
4.4 out of 5 stars (1,520)
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The Roots of Obama’s Rage
› Dinesh D’Souza
4.1 out of 5 stars (646)
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Crimes Against Liberty: An Indictment of President …
› David Limbaugh
4.3 out of 5 stars (283)
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The Obama Error
Mr. Stephen Pidgeon
4.3 out of 5 stars (23)
Paperback
Excerpt from “Where’s the Birth Certificate”: The result of three years of exhaustive research, Where’s the Birth Certificate? establishes the case not only that Barack Obama isn’t legally qualified to be president, but that, aided by his media co-conspirators, he has conducted one of the most audacious cover-ups ever perpetrated at the highest level of American politics.
RF
November 26th, 2012
9:02 pm
“I just have a problem with living off the public dollar for your entire career”
Hardly a career, and have you looked at what the average welfare recipient gets from the “public dollar”? Here’s a few facts for you to consider.
Income Guidelines
The welfare program supports families and individuals with limited or no income and resources. The program uses a complex calculation to determine eligibility based on federal poverty guidelines. The guidelines require income to fall at or below a percentage of the median annual income in the applicant’s metropolitan area. For example, the median annual income for Texas was $59,500 and a family of four could not exceed $17,850, or 30 percent, in income at the time of publication to qualify for welfare. Income plays a significant role in the amount of benefits a recipient receives.
Cash Assistance
The calculation for cash assistance includes monthly income, the need standard and the payment standard. The need standard varies based on location, family size and shelter costs and it defines the amount of money necessary to support the applicant. The payment standard determines the maximum amount a family can receive considering income and other resources. Each locale determines the standards based on the median annual income for the area. For example, a single-parent family of four in Texas can receive a payment of $312 per month. A two-parent household of four can receive $320 maximum per month. Interested persons can contact their local social services department and request the maximum amount for their situation.
Food Assistance
Applicants receive food assistance benefits as part of the welfare program. The maximum monthly amount of benefits a family of four could receive was $668 as of June 2011. But the maximum amount is affected significantly by a recipient’s annual income. For example, if a family of four earns $250 per month of countable income, the monthly food payment is reduced to $418.
Combined Assistance
The combination of food and cash assistance comprise the total monthly benefit amount, which is determined by the applicant’s location. A single-parent family of four in Texas with no resources or income would receive a total of $980 per month. Alaska pays the highest percentage of the federal poverty line, at 50 percent, and a family of four could receive up to $1,025 per month in cash assistance alone
Read more: How Much Money Does a Family of Four Receive in Welfare? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/info_8590871_much-family-four-receive-welfare.html#ixzz2DNsk1IS6
Sounds like Alaska’s got it pretty good, and that’s a fairly conservative state as I recall. I don’t know about you, but $320 a month in welfare, even with food allowance, isn’t going to get you a spot in the local country club. And speaking from experience feeding two teenage boys on my single income, no amount of food allowance is enough.
JamVet
November 26th, 2012
9:03 pm
Yep, the Occupy gang was in an agitating mood, JKL2.
I loved it and I suspect that Frederick Douglass would have approved.
Yet somewhat inexplicably to me, you Republicans went fairly berserk over those protests/redress of grievances by tens of thousands of Americans in dozens of American cities. And though you may or may not have noticed, making up wholesale malicious lies about countless of those fellow citizens was a factor in your November losses.
As did your Limbaugh-led sick little stunt with Sandra Fluke, but I digress…
So to the extent that that groundswell of protest and taking a stand against the power brokers and the oligarchs, brought to bear the subject of needlessly contrived income inequality and injustice in America – and it did – it was not impotent or misplaced anger, as is much of the right wing’s.
One more time. Just because it is so powerful and wonderful…
If there is no struggle, there is no progress.
Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.
Find out just what a people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both.
The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.
Men may not get all they pay for in this world; but they must pay for all they get. If we ever get free from all the oppressions and wrongs heaped upon us, we must pay for their removal. We must do this by labor, by suffering, by sacrifice, and, if needs be, by our lives, and the lives of others. ~Frederick Douglass, 1857
RF
November 26th, 2012
9:05 pm
JKL2- citing from glennbeck.com is probably the only site worse than breitbart.com… you gotta do better than that if you want me to read it.
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
9:06 pm
“and was thinking about public housing lifers, but you bring up a good point. Government employees do get a paycheck and they don’t do a whole lot more than the public housing lifers.”
It’s easy to see you don’t know much about either set.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
9:06 pm
Cool, I’ll take $18k for sitting on my rear all the time.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
9:07 pm
Doggone, I deal with gub-ment employees each and every day. You will never find a more inept bunch.
RF
November 26th, 2012
9:08 pm
“Government employees do get a paycheck and they don’t do a whole lot more than the public housing lifers”
As a general statment, I might agree (I’ve met some awful ones in offices in my time), but then you have to think about police officers, firefighters/EMT’s, teachers. They’re not all bad, you know?
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
9:09 pm
“Cool, I’ll take $18k for sitting on my rear all the time.”
Missed the “family of 4″ I see. Unless you are REALLY fat, I doubt you qualify as a “family” of 4
guy
November 26th, 2012
9:10 pm
JamVet Most of us don’t change very much and we are what we are. It is what it is but at least we have the ability and freedom to say what we believe.Time will tell just how selfish and foolish we are compared to the God who made us.
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
9:10 pm
“Doggone, I deal with gub-ment employees each and every day. You will never find a more inept bunch”
Our military will, I’m sure, be very interested in your opinion of them.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
9:11 pm
Sorry, I have been overwhelmed by my experiences with the IRS and GA DOR. I failed to consider our firemen, police officers, teachers, etc. My bad.
DebbieDoRight - Dems use actual math and ratios to counter the republican magic based economic plan.
November 26th, 2012
9:12 pm
Sort of like all that money that the Democrats throw at wellfare recipients?
You mean those oil subsidies to Big Oil or those tax breaks that states offers to businesses so that they’ll settle one or two factories in their states and throw a few hundred jobs to their populace?
Yeah I agree. Welfare to companies making billions of dollars a year is whack!
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
9:12 pm
“They’re not all bad, you know?”
and I deal with non-government employes, and there are some doozy’s there too.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 26th, 2012
9:13 pm
…we are what we are. It is what it is…
Repetition is repetition.
And tautology is sayin’ the same thing, only using different words.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
9:13 pm
Doggone – You’re right. I had narrowly focused only on government administrative jobs like IRS, etc. As for the military, it looks like they will have to find another line of work since the Dems want to cut defense spending by 50%.
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
9:15 pm
“As for the military, it looks like they will have to find another line of work since the Dems want to cut defense spending by 50%.”
Got proof of that?
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
9:15 pm
Just quoting previous quotes from this illustrious blog.
RF
November 26th, 2012
9:15 pm
josef: nice one with the Yeats. As I look toward the possibility of retiring before I die (maybe), I think the solitude of the “bee-loud glade” would be wonderful!
Mick
November 26th, 2012
9:17 pm
**This administration won a second term but will go down in history as the most corrupt and incompetent of any this country has endured.**
I think bush has him beat by a country mile…
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
9:17 pm
“Just quoting previous quotes from this illustrious blog.”
So, just like with government employees, you’re going to tar a whole, huge group of people because of the sins of a few. Slow learner, aren’t you?
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
9:18 pm
It isn’t my idea. I wouldn’t cut defense spending, other than trying to eliminate wasteful spending.
Brosephus™
November 26th, 2012
9:22 pm
I see somebody has public sector work envy. Oh well…
On the theme of exposing Fox on it’s own turf, here’s an interesting piece written by one who is, by his own admission, banned from Fox.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/revenge-of-the-reality-based-community/
I know that it’s unattractive and bad form to say “I told you so” when one’s advice was ignored yet ultimately proved correct. But in the wake of the Republican election debacle, it’s essential that conservatives undertake a clear-eyed assessment of who on their side was right and who was wrong. Those who were wrong should be purged and ignored; those who were right, especially those who inflicted maximum discomfort on movement conservatives in being right, ought to get credit for it and become regular reading for them once again.
I’m not going to beat around the bush and pretend I don’t have a vested interest here. Frankly, I think I’m at ground zero in the saga of Republicans closing their eyes to any facts or evidence that conflict with their dogma. Rather than listen to me, they threw me under a bus. To this day, I don’t think they understand that my motives were to help them avoid the permanent decline that now seems inevitable.
[...]
My book, Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy, was published in February 2006. I had been summarily fired by the think tank I worked for back in October 2005. Although the book was then only in manuscript, my boss falsely claimed that it was already costing the organization contributions. He never detailed, nor has anyone, any factual or analytical error in the book.
Among the interesting reactions to my book is that I was banned from Fox News. My publicist was told that orders had come down from on high that it was to receive no publicity whatsoever, not even attacks. Whoever gave that order was smart; attacks from the right would have sold books. Being ignored was poison for sales.
I later learned that the order to ignore me extended throughout Rupert Murdoch’s empire. For example, I stopped being quoted in the Wall Street Journal.* Awhile back, a reporter who left the Journal confirmed to me that the paper had given her orders not to mention me. Other dissident conservatives, such as David Frum and Andrew Sullivan, have told me that they are banned from Fox as well. More epistemic closure.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
9:23 pm
“Missed the “family of 4″ I see. Unless you are REALLY fat, I doubt you qualify as a “family” of 4″ Shucks, I need to get busy reproducing to improve my monthly cash flow.
GuyWritingThis
November 26th, 2012
9:23 pm
Kind of sad that Jay thinks dead Americans and Black Panthers standing outside a polling station with baseball bats are joking matters.
Sorry, but there are still a lot of unanswered questions about Benghazi, and you know damn well if there was a Republican in the White House you wouldn’t take “Oh, we did nothing wrong, we swear!” as an answer.
DebbieDoRight - Dems use actual math and ratios to counter the republican magic based economic plan.
November 26th, 2012
9:24 pm
why would they start telling the truth to you wingnuts now???
Rightwing – SShhhhhhh! Ixnay on the telling of the truthixnay!
Doggone: O’Reilly is a jackass
Word.
Missed the “family of 4″ I see. Unless you are REALLY fat, I doubt you qualify as a “family” of 4
Too funny!!
Josef
November 26th, 2012
9:26 pm
RF
Mama always planted nine bean rows in her garden…
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
9:26 pm
“Black Panthers standing outside a polling station with baseball bats are joking matters”
When you have to lie to make your point, you have no point. It was not the Black Panthers.
Nunna Yobinnes
November 26th, 2012
9:26 pm
Yeah Debbie, I need to have some kids ASAP so I can improve my earning potential.
LD
November 26th, 2012
9:28 pm
Just so I get the scorecard right here Jay:
4 Americans including an ambassador are killed on the anniversary of 9/11 by elements of Al Qaeda
We were told by the Obama Admin that Al Qaeda was ‘decimated’ prior to the attack and not capable of doing such attacks
We find out that no extra security was authorized by the admin for the consulate even after repeated requests by the Ambassador himself
We find out there had been intel warnings prior to the attack
We find out the President missed 2/3 of his intel briefings prior to the attack
We were fed one story for nearly 3 weeks from every administration official from the top down that a 15-minute video released six months prior was the reason for the attack, that it was a ’spontaneous’ protest that led to the ’small firefight’
We then find out the President knew within 90 minutes of the beginning of the attack that it was a terrorist attack
We then find out repeated requests for help were denied multiple times with American military elements 30 minutes to an hour away from the attack zone
We then find out a General responsible for the area was sacked because he was going to defy the ’stand down’ order from the White House and was stopped by his 2nd in command
And just before the head of the CIA was scheduled to give testimony on the whole disaster, a scandal conveniently breaks out that disrupts that story and creates a whole other news story for the media to chase while ruining the reputation of said CIA director
But the real problem for America here is…….Fox News reporting on it?
Should I be surprised/saddended/angered/disgusted/indifferent that you and the liberals here are willing to step over dead Americans to protect your favorite socialist dictator….er, President, Jay? Might as well take some of the blood off his hands while you’re at it. Please, tell us how it’s all Conservatives’ fault and we’re racist/sexist/bigots/homophobes/fearmongers for bothering to question what happened to our citizens.
And you call yourself a newsman? Think it’s safe to say you’re not even close.
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
9:31 pm
“And you call yourself a newsman?”
The news is on the news pages. This is an opinion page. You need to learn the difference.
Get Real
November 26th, 2012
9:32 pm
DebbieDoesObama…
keep grinding those hips girl, you’ll get there
getalife
November 26th, 2012
9:33 pm
The classic rove melt down and now “I think that the emphasis on Benghazi has been extremely political, partly because Fox was operating as a wing of Republican Party.”
It is entertaining.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 26th, 2012
9:34 pm
Just so I get the scorecard right here Jay:
8 weeks of drudgey spam in one post.
Too funny!
RF
November 26th, 2012
9:34 pm
“I need to get busy reproducing to improve my monthly cash flow.”
Be careful, after two kids, the average increase in welfare is only about $70 a month. When you consider the cost estimate for raising a child is above 100k, that few hundred a year isn’t going to help you. Averages on a family of four are typical, and estimates show that a family of say five or six is actually worse off on a per person basis.
LD
November 26th, 2012
9:35 pm
“The news is on the news pages. This is an opinion page. You need to learn the difference”
Oh yeah, Doggone, that reply shuts up my whole arguement. No need to get into the substance.
Stupid liberal.
DebbieDoRight - Dems use actual math and ratios to counter the republican magic based economic plan.
November 26th, 2012
9:35 pm
Bro – Is public sector work envy the same as peni$ envy? Do you think that poster will go out and buy some extenze in order to make up for his job performance anxiety?
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To all the “I HATE Dem Governments Workerserersss!! They is uselesss!!”
Have no fear!! When you vote repuglican you may get your wish and have the entire gubmint subsidized! The military too! Why, we can have our entire military outsourced to China!!
LD
November 26th, 2012
9:37 pm
Kamchak
If it’s spam, then it should be easy for you to prove it wrong. So do it already.
getalife
November 26th, 2012
9:38 pm
LD,
The CIA lie.
Are you new to politics?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 26th, 2012
9:38 pm
So do it already.
You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that I somehow answer to you, sport.
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
9:39 pm
“Oh yeah, Doggone, that reply shuts up my whole arguement. No need to get into the substance”
It’s not my fault you were stupid enough to invoke the news segements on an OPINION page. You got a problem with how the news pages report Benghazi, try being just a *little* intelligent and take you whining to the NEWS EDITOR.
RF
November 26th, 2012
9:39 pm
“Oh, we did nothing wrong, we swear!” as an answer”
yeah, we really went after of’ Dubya and Cheney and the gang after it was proven that they basically made up the intel on the WMD’s so we could defy the UN and attack Iraq and have yet to admit it. Talk about a real conspiracy, and we barely paid it lip service at the time.
Dr. Socrates
November 26th, 2012
9:41 pm
Let’s see. Fox News for Republicans (notice I didn’t say “right” or “conservative”). MSNBC for Democrats (not “left” or “liberal”). All the 3-letters somewhere in the middle but usually accused of being pro-Democrat. The problem is that few journalists, Bookie included, can report the news without personal bias. If journalism schools would teach the old Joe Friday statement, “The facts ma’am, just the facts,” the news world would be a better place. News channels should jsut fire the readers and rely on Associated Press wires for real news.
DebbieDoRight - Dems use actual math and ratios to counter the republican magic based economic plan.
November 26th, 2012
9:42 pm
Get Real – For you. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArSLNJNUEIM&feature=endscreen
LD
November 26th, 2012
9:43 pm
Kamchak,
You’re the one saying its spam. You either have the proof or you speak from cluelessness. Unless you can prove none of that is true that’s being reported, your post is worthless. Why bother attacking me for it.
Brosephus™
November 26th, 2012
9:44 pm
Do you think that poster will go out and buy some extenze in order to make up for his job performance anxiety?
I doubt that would help. Extenze may aid the physical part, but the mental part will still be weak.
Doggone/GA
November 26th, 2012
9:44 pm
“The problem is that few journalists, Bookie included, can report the news without personal bias”
That claim gets made here with boring frequency…and yet NO ONE, when challenged, has been able to show us a pattern of NEWS stores being slanted to either side. Care to take up the challenge and see if you can do what no one else has been able to do?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 26th, 2012
9:44 pm
Why bother attacking me for it.
Not my fault that you’re embarrassed by drudgey, sport.
LD
November 26th, 2012
9:45 pm
getalife,
The CIA must be all liberal then.
Not new.
RF
November 26th, 2012
9:45 pm
gotta go- the recliner is calling and I need some downtime before bed. You cons keep harping and hoping. I’m sure Rush will make you feel all better tomorrow…or bitter, depending on what you prefer. To end the night, a quote from Don Quixote, one of my favorite books from high school (and I read it in Spanish, btw before reading it in English…in a public school, too!)
““Destiny guides our fortunes more favorably than we could have expected. Look there, Sancho Panza, my friend, and see those thirty or so wild giants, with whom I intend to do battle and kill each and all of them, so with their stolen booty we can begin to enrich ourselves. This is noble, righteous warfare, for it is wonderfully useful to God to have such an evil race wiped from the face of the earth.”
“What giants?” Asked Sancho Panza.
“The ones you can see over there,” answered his master, “with the huge arms, some of which are very nearly two leagues long.”
“Now look, your grace,” said Sancho, “what you see over there aren’t giants, but windmills, and what seems to be arms are just their sails, that go around in the wind and turn the millstone.”
“Obviously,” replied Don Quijote, “you don’t know much about adventures.”
Enjoy the adventure, dear neocon friends. We will entertain your delusions for a time.
Brosephus™
November 26th, 2012
9:46 pm
The problem is that few journalists, Bookie included, can report the news without personal bias.
Ummm, Bookman is an opinion columnist. His work requires him to put personal bias into his writing.