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Brosephus™ - Alabama State Universty Hornet, and proud about it!!!!!
November 25th, 2012
2:52 pm
Yep. Now how do we convince the House to go along?
Claim that the true intent is to boost national security defenses by including missile launchers embedded into the flood gates in the plans. Then give the construction contract to KBR and Haliburton by a no-bid process.
josef
November 25th, 2012
2:54 pm
BROSEPHUS
I’m only half-joking when I say it sounds like a plan to me…
Brosephus™
November 25th, 2012
2:54 pm
In the meantime, there are a few job openings for movers. The closest one to Atlanta is in Auburn, AL.
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
2:57 pm
“I’m afraid the most we’re going to get is a slap-dash, band-aid approach which, if you look at it long range, is going to be a lot more expensive and a lot less effective”
Yep, but to some extentat that’s a result of our “I want it now” society. We get less and less able to simply wait for things. This is one of the things that I’m a radical about. I think it explains our skyrocketing debt…but at the same time, I’m one who does NOT think that rising prices are a good thing.
Used to be you could save bit by bit for things, but now? If you save you’re quite likely to find that during that savings period the price has gone up on what you are saving for. So people bought on credit, which also increase the price of things if you don’t pay it off…but they got in that habit because it got harder and harder to save ahead of the increase in cost.
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
3:01 pm
“Then give the construction contract to KBR and Haliburton by a no-bid process”
Hell Bro…that might actually work!
Brosephus™
November 25th, 2012
3:02 pm
Yep, but to some extentat that’s a result of our “I want it now” society.
I will not attempt to offer a counter to that one. 100% in agreement here.
josef
November 25th, 2012
3:06 pm
DOGGONE, BROSEPHUS
Really, it could. Simply show how the military defense installations are at risk…and…peg it on that…
And, logically speaking (ha!) that is something we need to consider…
*******
I agree with you on the immediate gratification syndrome…
indigo
November 25th, 2012
3:10 pm
getalife – 1:56
I am not a con. I voted for Obama.
josef
November 25th, 2012
3:11 pm
Just a question, but how long would our atomic project of WWII been delayed were it not for the WPA projects in the Tennessee and Columbia Rivers? (Oak Ridge and Hanford) ?
indigo
November 25th, 2012
3:14 pm
Keep – 1:57
Even if everyone in America heeded your advice, it would make little difference. The whole world has to become involved if we are to stop global warming. Since you and I both know this will never happen, there is NO HELP, NO HOPE, NO FUTURE for us.
bman.
November 25th, 2012
3:15 pm
“I am not a con. I voted for Obama.”
I’ll buy you a tee-shirt with those words on it, if you will wear it. I’ll even throw in a hoodie with a BIG O on it because it’s getting cold…
indigo
November 25th, 2012
3:16 pm
Doggone/GA – 2:06
In other words, you have no answer.
When will you ever learn to think before you post?
bman.
November 25th, 2012
3:16 pm
Josef .. .. pizza of any style! I will admit this …I tried Pizza Hut for the first time in years last week. I’d rather have a $1 totinos mini than eat that again…
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
3:17 pm
“there is NO HELP, NO HOPE, NO FUTURE for us.”
Well, there’s some good news. Now I can stop trying to pay off my bills, and stop saving for my retirement. Wonder if the bank will accept that as a good excuse not tp have to pay off my mortgage.
josef
November 25th, 2012
3:17 pm
indigo
“I am not a con. I voted for Obama.”
Something of a non sequitur, I would say. Obama is a pretty conservative fellow. Not a lunatic right-winger, for sure, but overall his first administration was fairly conservative…
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
3:19 pm
“In other words, you have no answer”
In other words…you aren’t worth engaging in conversation. If you REALLY wanted to know what you can do you would have taken my suggestion to find any of the hundreds of sites that ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ALREADY.
josef
November 25th, 2012
3:22 pm
” NO HELP, NO HOPE, NO FUTURE ”
Then cut to the chase, slit your wrists and be done with it. Why hang around?
josef
November 25th, 2012
3:27 pm
bman
I’m of the opinion that there’s no such thing as bad pizza, some’s just better than others…
josef
November 25th, 2012
3:34 pm
indigo
Just a question, but what would be the perfect day for you?
*******
Anybody else, for that matter…see, I just got through two that came close to it…
Brosephus™
November 25th, 2012
3:35 pm
josef
Not only would we need to address military installations. We import massive quantities of goods through our ports. If something happened along the West Coast that knocked out the ports in Los Angeles and Long Beach, our economy would likely suffer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ports_in_the_United_States
If you look at the busiest ports in the US, the first three are major oil ports. Long Beach is the major port where goods from Asia enters the US. The top 17 ports could be hit by major disasters by way of earthquakes or hurricanes. If we don’t have the infrastructure that’s necessary to survive and recover from major events, we doom ourselves.
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
3:42 pm
“If something happened along the West Coast that knocked out the ports in Los Angeles and Long Beach, our economy would likely suffer.”
yes, it would. But that’s true of any of our ports. I would posit that the bigger danger is the East Coast port…simply by the sheer number of people they service. The West Coast ports are important, the East Coast ports are crucial. And the “funny” thing is…once the new Panama Canal is completed. it could put the Gulf Coast ports at the cusp of importance in the event something big happens to either of the oceans coast ports, because it would be less expensive to ship the the Gulf Coast and then send the goods from there to the rest of the nation…then it would be to re-route goods to either set of ocean coast ports and then have to ship clear across the nation to the other coast.
Orange12
November 25th, 2012
3:48 pm
“I am not a con. I voted for Obama.”
What was that phrase PT Barnum used to say?
getalife
November 25th, 2012
3:50 pm
“I am not a con. I voted for Obama.”
BS.
Brosephus™
November 25th, 2012
3:50 pm
Doggone
I think the completion of the new and improved Panama Canal puts both the Gulf Coast and the East Coast ports much higher on the level of risk. If I remember correctly, the primary reason for widening the canal is to allow for the super cargo ships to come through from Asia and other Pacific areas. The intent is to bring the ships to the Eastern and Southeastern US without having to truck or move cargo by train from the West Coast.
Thanks for the reminder on the Panama Canal. I had completely forgotten about that.
josef
November 25th, 2012
3:52 pm
an interesting read….
http://www.shtfplan.com/emergency-preparedness/simulation-new-madrid-quake-would-kill-100000-instantly-displace-7-million_08292011
Georgia
November 25th, 2012
3:52 pm
How much do I love the Falcons this year! In spite of that last call.
Brosephus™
November 25th, 2012
3:52 pm
Just a question, but what would be the perfect day for you?
For me, everyday that I make it home to my family in one piece is the perfect day for me. As long as I’m accomplishing that, the stuff that happens from the time I leave home and return doesn’t really matter all that much.
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
3:55 pm
“The intent is to bring the ships to the Eastern and Southeastern US without having to truck or move cargo by train from the West Coast.”
Yes, that’s the whole point…but in the event of a disaster on either coast…it puts the Gulf Coast ports literally “in the middle”
Brosephus™
November 25th, 2012
4:03 pm
in the event of a disaster on either coast…it puts the Gulf Coast ports literally “in the middle”
That thought does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling, especially when considering the cargo handling capacity for Gulf Coast ports when it comes to cargo other than petroleum products.
josef
November 25th, 2012
4:08 pm
BROSEPHUS
New Orleans is really the only viable port on the Gulf and it’s not capable of handling the monster ships that will be coming through the canal…
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
4:12 pm
“That thought does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling, especially when considering the cargo handling capacity for Gulf Coast ports when it comes to cargo other than petroleum products”
Sure, but that concern is operative no matter which coast ports you are talking about. Could the West Coast ports handle their own cargo loads AND the loads of the East Coast, for example? The thought I have sort of stems from the “should we rebuild New Orleans” that people like my sister spout off. Well, my answer is: yes, we should. Because we have to budget for the loss of major ports on any of the 3 coasts and we can’t afford to permanently lose any of them, if we are to have any chance of coping with the temporary loss of any them.
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
4:14 pm
“New Orleans is really the only viable port on the Gulf and it’s not capable of handling the monster ships that will be coming through the canal”
It doesn’t neccessarily have to. In the event of a disaster they could anchor off-shore and off load their cargos onto smaller ships or even barges if neccessary.. It would almost certainly still be more cost effective then shipping to either coast and trying to ship goods across country by road, rail or air.
New Orleans, in particular, has the added advantage of being able to add barges to the distribution by air, road or rail.
josef
November 25th, 2012
4:27 pm
DOGGONE
Those spouting off about rebuilding NOLA…it’s there for a reason. It’s at the mouth of the frikkin Mississippi River, dumbass! There’s a reason it’s the second most important port in the nation. Or as we locals say, the Mississippi is the alimentary canal of the country and Nawlins is the, well you know…!
You make a good point as to the unloading etc…New Orleans is very much the “transhipment” port for transferring from the ocean going to the riverine and rail…I had not really thought about that “off shore” port idea…duh…
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
4:48 pm
Josef – yep! And the flooding problems and all that are the fault of people who didn’t understand the importance of the natural habitat around it. If it still had it’s sand barriers and the proper swamp and wetlands that it should have, it wouldn’t be as neccessary to have such an extensive levee system. It would still need one, but it wouldn’t be as crucial…since the water would have natural places to do that it doesn’t have now.
Brosephus™
November 25th, 2012
4:48 pm
Doggone
Effective argument on the need to, not only rebuild, but to plan ahead to avoid serious reprecussions of having our cargo handling ability crippled.
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
4:50 pm
“Effective argument on the need to, not only rebuild, but to plan ahead to avoid serious reprecussions of having our cargo handling ability crippled”
Yes, exactly.
Oscar
November 25th, 2012
5:06 pm
I can’t see spending all that money to make the Savannah River deeper so that Savannah can handle the bigger ships.
Unloading off shore onto smaller ships is one idea.
Damage to Savannah’s water supply and other problems.
Most ports on the east coast are not now capable of handling them.
Funny that the cons who don’t want a big federal government are the ones trying to get Congress to approve the money.
Skip
November 25th, 2012
5:10 pm
On a lighter note, anyone see humor in Kyle’s”being present” blog on a weekend when he’s gone?
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
5:10 pm
“I can’t see spending all that money to make the Savannah River deeper so that Savannah can handle the bigger ships”
It’s more cost effective than off-shore porting, which if you go back and read was only suggested as a response to a disaster at another major port.
And how in the heck is deepening the harbor supposed to affect the water supply? That’s an argument I have not even heard before.
“Most ports on the east coast are not now capable of handling them”
No, and in the past they couldn’t handle the “bigger” cargo ships that are the generation before these…but they can now, and they will rebuild to handle the bigger ones of the new generation. Adapt or die, basically.
barking frog
November 25th, 2012
5:25 pm
Oscar
Funny that the cons who don’t want a big federal government are the ones trying to get Congress to approve the money.
…………………………………………
And yet they turn down federal money for medicaid for sick children.
Oscar
November 25th, 2012
5:48 pm
And how in the heck is deepening the harbor supposed to affect the water supply? That’s an argument I have not even heard before.
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Well, you obviously have not been reading your letters from The Sierra Club, Nature Conservancy or Trust for Public Land.
Making the river deeper will allow more salt water backup from the Atlantic to come up the river. This can seep into the underground water around Savannah.
Oscar
November 25th, 2012
5:48 pm
Federal money spent to aid private business is socialism. (Unless it’s to help us in our state.)
Oscar
November 25th, 2012
6:00 pm
And yet they turn down federal money for medicaid for sick children.
_____
According to the cons, that would be socialism, even communism.
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
6:14 pm
“Making the river deeper will allow more salt water backup from the Atlantic to come up the river. This can seep into the underground water around Savannah”
And that doesn’t make any sense. Deepening the harbor shouldn’t have any effect on how much water goes UP the river. How could it? And anyway, the water issue has been addressed by the proposal of a new resevoir.
Oscar
November 25th, 2012
6:25 pm
Just one of many articles. Google is your friend. Google Savannah River widening.
Savannah does not have a harbor. That’s the problem. The docks are on the river.
Savannah may not one of the best places on the east coast to use to accommodate the new ships.
http://mynewlifeinsavannah.blogspot.com/2012/04/savannah-river-widening.html
Doggone/GA
November 25th, 2012
6:34 pm
“Savannah does not have a harbor. That’s the problem. The docks are on the river”
Same as with New Orleans. Not all “ports” have harbors in the classic sense. That doesn’t neccessarily mean they aren’t suitable to be a port location.
“Google Savannah River widening.”
Deepening, not widening.
Fred &trqade;
November 25th, 2012
8:34 pm
Brosephus™
November 25th, 2012
11:33 am
Enjoy. oh and get Brocephus prepared for the disappointment, resentment and sadness he’ll be feeling this time next Sunday. He’ll be feeling like the Republicans after the last election as he learns to say “Georgia Bulldawgs, SEC Champions.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyhaTQseKTQ
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Bro; after spending all day buried in Brother O’s crap, (literally, I was snaking out his plugged sewer line) that is the perfect clip. I picked the wrong week. It will take a month to get the smell of sht off me……..
The things you do for brothers……..
To Brother Owen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1KtScrqtbc
Fred ™
November 25th, 2012
8:34 pm
I hate it when I screw up my name lol.
Brosephus™
November 25th, 2012
8:38 pm
Fred
Tell Brother O to go a little lighter on the fiber and increase his water intake. The line won’t clog as much.
Fred ™
November 25th, 2012
8:45 pm
Bro; I was thinking of telling him to cut that $%#&*! 100 foot pine tree out of his yard that has the roots encroaching into his sewer line……….. but if I told him that the necxt time I was oer there it would be with a chain saw
Brosephus™
November 25th, 2012
8:54 pm
Fred
Roots will f**k up a sewer line too…
RF
November 25th, 2012
8:57 pm
Updating the Savannah River’s capability is one of those things that the potential financial gain outweighs the environmental impact. But then, like most rivers, it’s polluted enough by the time it gets that far down that one has to wonder if it’s such a big deal.
I think Sandy has made some people sit up and take some notice, but what will it really improve? I think we’re going to have to see a couple more of those monster storms before anyone gets really serious about spending the money needed to build some protection for the area. I agree that this would be a great way to get some infrastructure projects going that could create all kinds of jobs, but in this political climate, who thinks it will happen?
Oscar
November 25th, 2012
8:57 pm
Doggone – Another article on the Savannah River.
http://www.savannahriverkeeper.org/savannah-harbor-expansion-project-shep.html
Oscar
November 25th, 2012
9:04 pm
If the climate change predictions are correct, the present coast will be under water.
If the sea level keeps rising, someone will have some decisions to make.
Dikes around Manhatten, Brooklyn,Staten Island, and Queens, perhaps.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 25th, 2012
9:05 pm
Fred
Got your text.
Thanks.
Soothsayer
November 25th, 2012
10:12 pm
Dikes in Manhattan! Queens in Brooklyn and Staten Island! WTF is the world coming to? PLEASE don’t tell the cons about this! We’ll never hear the end of it!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 25th, 2012
11:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAe_3_GO9t0
Oscar
November 26th, 2012
12:34 am
Soothsayer – I was wondering who, if anyone, would pick that up. Two points.
John McCain got it wrong...
November 26th, 2012
5:27 am
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj497/Libprog/311389_248873191907817_1636631853_n.jpg
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 26th, 2012
6:24 am
Good Monday morning to all y’all…
I had a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday, but the trouble with wonderful holidays is that they have to end….so here I am back to work this A.M. I wonder if my retirement this march will be just one big holiday? At least there will be no 0400 reveille’s…
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 26th, 2012
6:28 am
Hi my fellow Bookmaniacs – I hope everyone had a FAB thanksgiving weekend!!
welcome (back) to the working week!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztZcktJFLnc
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 26th, 2012
6:31 am
GET OUT!! you’re retiring in March??? wow!! how exciting for you and the fam! I’m sure Mrs. Corbin already has a honey-do list ready for you (the rest of us just hope that it doesn’t involve any ladders)
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 26th, 2012
6:52 am
USinUk,
Thanks!
No, no more ladders…in fact, I’m having an MRI on my knees this afternoon for further decisions. Actually, our older Grand Kids are helping out this year with our decorations. My four year old Great Grand Daughter, says I can make the hot chocolate though…
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 26th, 2012
6:56 am
This is funny…sick, but funny.
http://cheezburger.com/6777779968
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 26th, 2012
6:57 am
“My four year old Great Grand Daughter, says I can make the hot chocolate though”
Hot chocolate and cookie distribution … sounds like a fantastic (and much safer) job!!
good luck with the MRI – let me know what happens … look at it this way – knee replacement surgery has come a LONG way – the people I know who have had it say the only thing they would do differently is not put it off as long as they did.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 26th, 2012
7:01 am
Corbin – or we can start the day with some 3rd grade humor
http://cheezburger.com/6767099904
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 26th, 2012
7:03 am
USinUK,
They tell me I won’t know the results until Thursday, but I’ll let you know. Got any good toll house cookie recipes?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 26th, 2012
7:04 am
“or we can start the day with some 3rd grade humor”
Even I didn’t have the courage to post that one…Well done!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 26th, 2012
7:09 am
Cookies did you say???
http://redskitchendiaries.wordpress.com/category/cookies/
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 26th, 2012
7:20 am
HOLY COW! For a man who has a hard time deciding what color skivvies to wear (white or white), those recipe’s are a hard choice. Thanks for them. I do like that orange brownie one though…
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 26th, 2012
7:26 am
Corbin – this is my favorite
http://redskitchendiaries.wordpress.com/2010/12/21/marthas-chewy-chocolate-gingerbread-cookies/
JamVet
November 26th, 2012
7:39 am
Morning, peeps!
Happy post Turkey Day weekend!
For too long, the Republicans have predicted apocalypse, debt crisis, the loss of freedom, the overthrow of the constitution. As the economy improves, that doom-saying will seem even more out of touch than ever.
Republican political chances will depend on the Republican ability to devise a positive program to address the country’s fiscal problems in ways that improve people’s lives. It’s a new day, guys, and it demands a new game.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/26/opinion/frum-gop-prosperity/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
But in football terms, the GOP is still running the triple option. (Hugely successful in the 1950s!)
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 26th, 2012
7:53 am
USinUK,
OK, I’ll do that one…thanks again.