Agenda 21: The lunacy infiltrating state leaders

Glenn Beck is an entertainer who pitches his schtick at the eagerly deluded and culturally paranoid. Given that we live in a nation of some 300 million, that’s enough of an audience to make a man wealthy.

So when Beck publishes a book titled “Agenda 21,” a fictional warning of a UN takeover of the United States in which the U.S. government is abolished and its citizens are allowed only two functions, “to create clean energy and to create new human life,” it’s easily dismissed as the harmless lunacy that it clearly is.

However, when seven leading GOP members of the Georgia Senate gather in the state Capitol on state taxpayer dollars to hear a lecture on that same “Agenda 21″ preaching much the same craziness, it gets a little more troubling. When Sen. Chip Rogers of Cherokee County submits legislation attempting to further that outlandish conspiracy theory, it gets more troubling still. (It is somewhat of a comfort that Rogers was deposed yesterday in a Senate Republican Caucus meeting.)

And when you consider that others in attendance included Barry Loudermilk, chairman of the Senate Science and Technology Committee; Jack Murphy, chairman of the Senate Banking and Financial Institutions Committee; John Albers, vice chair of the Science and Technology Committee; Bill Heath, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee; and Butch Miller, chairman of the State and Local Governmental Operations Committee, it doesn’t bode well for serious governance.

Now, attendance in a lecture should not be confused with adherence. But based on a 52-minute video and the Powerpoint slides presented, the level of crazy would have sent many a sane person fleeing the room.

For those not well-versed in tin-foil theories, Agenda 21 is an obscure document created in a U.N. conference 20 years ago. If you read the document, it is a perfectly reasonable, utterly harmless recitation of standard land-use planning techniques. It is particularly aimed at developing countries that are trying to adapt to sudden population shifts from rural to urban areas.

But somewhere along the line, sifted through the minds of the paranoid, Agenda 21 becomes something much more sinister. For example, GOP senators attending the Capitol briefing were warned that those spreading the traitorous Agenda 21 have been trained in the use of a mind-control technique known as the Delphi technique. Among the buzzwords that betray influence by Agenda 21 include “best management practices,” “international baccalaureate,” “historic preservation,” “livable communities,” and “public-private partnerships.”

Now, using tax dollars to build a new stadium for the Atlanta Falcons would be a public-private partnership. And while personally I think that’s a bad idea given more pressing public needs, I would not have dreamed of attributing the idea to a U.N.-inspired attempted takeover of the United States. Does that make me a victim of the Delphi technique?

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According to Field Searcy, who made the presentation, the influence of Agenda 21 can already be detected in the Georgia Department of Community Affairs, the Atlanta Regional Commission, the Cumberland Community Improvement District in Cobb County and in Cobb County itself. Searcy also compared President Obama’s creation of a White House Rural Council to Josef Stalin’s five-year development plan that ended in the starvation deaths of millions of Ukrainians, and with Mao Tse Tung’s Great Leap Forward, which also killed tens of millions.

These are the ideas influencing some of this state’s top leadership. Has it become impossible for saner conservative leaders to publicly denounce this stuff for the lunacy that it is? Perhaps so, given that a condemnation of Agenda 21 was even incorporated into the GOP’s 2012 political platform.

– Jay Bookman

708 comments Add your comment

DannyX

November 16th, 2012
8:41 am

Thank God we just made the state a major player in the charter school business, in fact Chip Rogers was a big time proponent of the amendment that just passed.

I can’t wait for the new ‘Conspiracy Charter Highe Sckool’ to open. Also looking forward to ‘Glenn Beck Elamentury’.

(Btw, only one week until the annual War on Christmas conspiracy begins.)

weetamoe

November 16th, 2012
8:42 am

And the republicans infected gay men with AIDS and introduced crack cocaine into south central LA and Sarah Palin shot Gabby Giffords and Rudy Giuliani planted bombs in the world trade center and George W Bush outed Valerie Plame and of course Barack Obama does not, repeat does not–spread filthy smears about his opponents and use sex related scandals to further his political career.

Brosephus™

November 16th, 2012
8:44 am

There’s only one reaction to stuff like this…

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uRlNDK_Z03o/TqwNcqfvgsI/AAAAAAAAANo/Wes3uDQUSwQ/s1600/ImpliedFacepalm.jpg

Y’all voted for them, so Y’all deal with them… :roll:

RB from Gwinnett

November 16th, 2012
8:45 am

“But the party has become increasingly vulnerable and welcoming to conspiracy theorists, ”

You mean like Bush orchestrated 9/11 and invaded Iraq to enrich his big oil buddies and blew up levies in NO, and Romney cheated on his taxes, and the list is endless, Jay.

Do you know a good blinder salesman in case the rest of us want a good pair?

Peter

November 16th, 2012
8:45 am

steve . I know this is a BIG Word for most Republican’s…… that would be EDUCATION !

People love all that crap they eat..until it is almost killing them…….

Then they are ” Born Again “..because they don’t want to die so early in life.

But in the mean time all who take care of themselves suffer the expense.

So tell me are YOU in good shape ? Or one of the over weight 50 % ?

Doggone/GA

November 16th, 2012
8:45 am

Should we take it from these nuts that we should never, ever, under any circumstances…plan for the future because there MIGHT be an “agenda” behind that planning?

JKL2

November 16th, 2012
8:48 am

mick- Their partisan and over the top looniness is taken seriously by their listeners. Contrary to that, I can always tell when chris matthews goes off the rails,

Stewart, Colbert, and Maher say,”What?”

The average Democrat gets their news from Comedy Central and can’t figure out why they’re not credible.

indigo

November 16th, 2012
8:48 am

bookman parrott – “and Stalin would not kill millions of Soviets….and continues to this day in other conflicts”

Stalin died in 1953.

stands for decibels

November 16th, 2012
8:49 am

Ohhh..great debate point..with authoritative tone telling me to shut my piehole…

Don’t expect to be treated kindly when you ignore my repeated requests for specifics. I leave glad-suffering-of-foolishness to others.

Mick

November 16th, 2012
8:49 am

**How exactly is Glenn Beck any different from Jay Bookman?**

For starters, he is not an entertainer or a crying clown…

Peter

November 16th, 2012
8:51 am

RB from Gwinnett Well you did get one theory correct…….and all know the truth………

Bush invaded Iraq to enrich his big oil buddies…… and Cheney’s buddies in the military complex.

And how did Bush and Cheney pay for all that at taxpayer’s expense ?

Cosby

November 16th, 2012
8:51 am

News must be slow today

RB from Gwinnett

November 16th, 2012
8:53 am

Peter, “Talk about lunacy……… That is raising premiums for ALL Georgian’s on health care…… But what is the Governor doing about that ? ”

Are you saying you want the Governor OUT of people’s bedrooms, but IN their kitchens? Seriously?

BTW, Peter, have you noticed how many people on food stamps are obese? Think about that for a moment……

stands for decibels

November 16th, 2012
8:53 am

You mean like Bush orchestrated 9/11 and invaded Iraq to enrich his big oil buddies and blew up levies in NO, and Romney cheated on his taxes, and the list is endless, Jay.

no, actually, it isn’t. You can’t cite elected officials not named “Cynthia McKinney” (who was booted out of her safe district by liberal voters) who bought into the first one; you probably can’t find ANY who buy into the second, as as to the third, well, Romney asked for it by refusing to do what every Presidential aspirant has done as a matter of course since 1984.

DannyX

November 16th, 2012
8:53 am

“The average Democrat gets their news from Comedy Central and can’t figure out why they’re not credible.”

Actually the Democrats were credible enough to just crush the Republicans in a national election, winning the presidency and picking up seats in the House and Senate.

Democrats were helped by Fox News crazy and delusional God’s will Republicans.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 16th, 2012
8:55 am

It’s no wonder that the party of these crazies continue to discount global climate change, evolution, etc. They are worried everyone is coming to get them….and we should, with a strait jacket.

stands for decibels

November 16th, 2012
8:55 am

Should we take it from these nuts that we should never, ever, under any circumstances…plan for the future because there MIGHT be an “agenda” behind that planning?

my take-away is that there’s a part of the population so brainwashed that you can take literally anything with the UN’s imprimatur and scare the crap out of them, for fun and profit.

Lord Help Us

November 16th, 2012
8:56 am

‘You mean like Bush orchestrated 9/11 and invaded Iraq to enrich his big oil buddies and blew up levies in NO, and Romney cheated on his taxes, and the list is endless, Jay.’

Sure, now how about providing examples of legislation related to these items being voted on, inserted into party platform, presentations by and for members of Congress…Thanks in advance…

In other words, people spout stupid crap, but when our elected reps spend taxpayer money giving presentations and sponsoring legislation around said stupid crap, they should be taken out behind the woodshed by the party leadership.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 16th, 2012
8:57 am

Stands, thanks for the link to the slide show. I see you are still getting the false equivalent crazy from Fox boy…. :roll:

RB from Gwinnett

November 16th, 2012
8:57 am

“Bush invaded Iraq to enrich his big oil buddies…… and Cheney’s buddies in the military complex. ”

^^^^^^^ There you have it Jay, Right here on your blog. Any chance you’ll tell Peter what an idiot he is?

Peter

November 16th, 2012
8:58 am

RB from Gwinnett ……. Yup EDUCATION about food would help……… And did you notice that Georgia Farmers lost 100’s of thousands of dollars as their crops rotted without the help of the Mexican’s picking them ?

Have you noticed fruit and vegetables cost more to buy than processed food..thus the folks on food stamps not educated eating the crap America put’s out ?

How is EDUCATION on healthy eating equating to being in the Bedroom….. Please answer that one for me ?

DannyX

November 16th, 2012
8:59 am

“There you have it Jay, Right here on your blog. Any chance you’ll tell Peter what an idiot he is?”

Hey RB, it’s not official until you read it on a billboard!

hnbc

November 16th, 2012
8:59 am

Are these people crazy? Or, am I crazy for thinking they are crazy?

Jay, what happened to Chip Rogers yesterday? He’s no longer the majority leader or something like that? Couldn’t have happened to a “nicer guy.” Thanks for some sanity.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 16th, 2012
9:00 am

shorter stevie – ‘Timmeh did it tooooooo…’
no mon, this is unparralleled con unhingement.
don’t worry. DHS & FBI are meeting daily, they’re ready.

Have you heard the latest angle from this crowd on the Petraeus deal?
‘He was ‘taken down’ (they like those vague spy terms) and ’smurred’
(smeared, I guess) by Obama because the Gen was planning a
‘coootie-tot’ (sic) to get the country back from the ’socialistas’
Yep, heard that at the Denny’s this morning at the huge table
full o those loud rude armchair militia types, obviously fueling up for
another day of revolution, and maybe feeding the ducks.

JohnnyReb

November 16th, 2012
9:00 am

If you ignore the impact Beck’s FOX show had on the 2010 mid-term results, and the absence of that show on the Nov election, you have a tin hat, even if invisible that is blocking reality.

Helping along Beck’s conspiracy theories is that he is often correct. For example, he predicted the middle east outcome, although that is still progressing, while most were rejoycing in their ignorance.

Also a big player in this is, Obama has less than zero credibility with most Conservatives. So he was born in Hawaii. He still grew up a Muslim, but switched to black liberation theology camouflaged under the Christian title. BTW, black leberation theology is about as close to being a Muslim as one can get without actually being one. But, Liberals ignore all of this because the Liberal base is a coalition of special interests which Obama caters to.

In a display of don’t believe what he says but watch what he does, Obama is busy in the UN trying to bypass our Constitution with such things as Law of the Sea Treaty and Small Arms Control.

In summary, with Obama in the WH the wild conspiracy theories don’t appear so far fetched.

Lord Help Us

November 16th, 2012
9:00 am

So RB, do you think Rep Rogers et al spending their time on this ‘issue’ is a good use of taxpayer money?

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 16th, 2012
9:02 am

Bring it cons.

Need.Moar.Cra-zeee

Julia

November 16th, 2012
9:02 am

it seems the more outlandish, the more ridiculous, the more totally divorced from reality the stuff Biff Beck spews, the more the Wing Nuts gobble it up. I blame it all on our foreign born, socialist, communist, food stamp, palling around with terrorist President. it’s all Obama’s fault. he made Biff crazy.

RB from Gwinnett

November 16th, 2012
9:03 am

You mean like the mayor of Atlanta saying if the R candidate wins, there will be “water hoses and guard dogs”? Last time I checked, she was a highly respected and elected member of the D party.

Peter

November 16th, 2012
9:03 am

RB from Gwinnett. I guess you don’t read too much do you ? Let me help you so you can feel less of what ever you like to call people.

Bush misused Iraq intelligence: Senate report
By Randall Mikkelsen 1 hour, 1 minute ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President George W. Bush and his top policymakers misstated Saddam Hussein’s links to terrorism and ignored doubts among intelligence agencies about Iraq’s arms programs as they made a case for war, the Senate intelligence committee reported on Thursday.

The report shows an administration that “led the nation to war on false premises,” said the committee’s Democratic Chairman, Sen. John Rockefeller of West Virginia. Several Republicans on the committee protested its findings as a “partisan exercise.”

The committee studied major speeches by Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other officials in advance of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, and compared key assertions with intelligence available at the time.

Statements that Iraq had a partnership with al Qaeda were wrong and unsupported by intelligence, the report said.

It said that Bush’s and Cheney’s assertions that Saddam was prepared to arm terrorist groups with weapons of mass destruction for attacks on the United States contradicted available intelligence.

Such assertions had a strong resonance with a U.S. public, still reeling after al Qaeda’s September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States. Polls showed that many Americans believed Iraq played a role in the attacks, even long after Bush acknowledged in September 2003 that there was no evidence Saddam was involved.

The report also said administration prewar statements on Iraq’s weapons programs were backed up in most cases by available U.S. intelligence, but officials failed to reflect internal debate over those findings, which proved wrong.

Lord Help Us

November 16th, 2012
9:03 am

‘He still grew up a Muslim, but switched to black liberation theology camouflaged under the Christian title. ‘

OMFG his DAD was a Muslim!!!! How can anyone with a DAD that was a Muslim be trusted. Dude, you really don’t know that you are a hateful bigot, do you?

steve

November 16th, 2012
9:04 am

@ peter, triathlons for 25 years, Place 2 or 3 in age group every race, will di atl 1/2 marathon this thanksgiving, Train 6 days a week 1.5 hours/each session- more on weekends. I practice what I preach, end of story, pass the twinkies

Education for a repub: 3 degrees, multiple certifications, mabye too much education , Peter-shut it down, stereotyping is for fools and lazy people which 2 are you. Come back when you can give us something other than nonsensical attacks…..

willydoit?

November 16th, 2012
9:05 am

“Bush invaded Iraq to enrich his big oil buddies…… and Cheney’s buddies in the military complex”

Riiiight…keep on believing this garbage too

Julia

November 16th, 2012
9:05 am

See what you get when cousins marry. you sure do got a purty mouth. now paddle faster, i hear banjos.

East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)

November 16th, 2012
9:07 am

If the U.S. government is abolished, who will enforce the policy of its citizens are allowed only two functions, “to create clean energy and to create new human life”? And does the creation of new human life have to be done using clean energy?

DannyX

November 16th, 2012
9:07 am

“Riiiight…keep on believing this garbage too”

willydo is right. The Iraqi oil paid for the war, Bush said so.

Peter

November 16th, 2012
9:07 am

More education for……… RB from Gwinnett

Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:17 AM

ASHINGTON – President Bush on Tuesday vetoed a spending measure for health and education programs prized by congressional Democrats. He also signed a big increase in the Pentagon’s non-war budget.

The president’s action was announced on Air Force One as Bush flew to Indiana for a speech expected to criticize the Democratic-led Congress on its budget priorities.
More than any other spending bill, the $606 billion education and health measure defines the differences between Bush and majority Democrats. The House fell three votes short of winning a veto-proof margin as it sent the measure to Bush.

YUP EDUCATION…… is the last idea coming from a Republican !

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 16th, 2012
9:07 am

Doggone/GA

November 16th, 2012
9:08 am

“you can take literally anything with the UN’s imprimatur ”

I especially like the post that the UN would “eat” the USA. Someone needs to take a good look at where the bulk of the UN funding comes from and then TRY to think forward to what would happen to the UN if we just stopped all funding.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 16th, 2012
9:09 am

You can’t argue with stupid
You can’t argue with crazy
You can’t argue with crazy stupid conspiracies

The crazy stupid conspiracy believers run deep in the GOP. My thought is that we tell all these doomday prepper crazies that “its time”, they’ll go deep and then we can run the country while they are buried. When they come back up, we’ll tell them how much better things are. [I really feel for their kids and wonder what we'll have to deal with as they grow up]

JamVet

November 16th, 2012
9:10 am

How exactly is Glenn Beck any different from Jay Bookman?

Perhaps because Beck has a longstanding, well documented history of making insane, veracity-free claims???

(But you already know this.)

Which leads to this observation:

If one asks a question as witheringly stupid as you just did, how in gawd’s name could you understand the answer?

Peter

November 16th, 2012
9:10 am

steve. Good for you then……… too bad the rest of Republican’s don’t feel the same way……

EDUCATION..has never been a strong point for Republican’s…….. the election proved that, as women with children overwhelmingly voted for Obama !

midtownguy

November 16th, 2012
9:10 am

With every new month of total Republican control of state government, Georgia slips further down past Alabama and South Carolina. GIve it another year and we will be below Mississippi.

JohnnyReb

November 16th, 2012
9:10 am

Lord Help Us – I know I hate Obama and find few things he stands for acceptable for this Nation under our Constitution.

straitroad

November 16th, 2012
9:11 am

I can recall having a discussion with a friend and former democrat politician in the 1980’s about one of the reasons I left the democrat party. He told me I was crazy for thinking that the democrat party would attempt to normalize the idea of homosexual marriage. Jay, when you operate from a position of having no fundamental foundation, anything can and will be allowed. Nothing is sacred with the democrat party, thus nothing should be considered far-fetched.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 16th, 2012
9:11 am

Law of the Sea Treaty

duuuude, if you could only see our sailors’ looks of embarrassment
as the only civilized nation not to ratify this. Even the conservative
mariners. Cringe.
This plays well in Missouri, Kentucky, Montana, & Idaho.
But please alienate the coastal people. No really, be my guest.

Jeff

November 16th, 2012
9:12 am

Once again you all bow at the altar of Obama. If you people trust the UN to not have desires of stripping the US of individual rights then your the fools.
This nation has died and just waiting to get buried and it is the fault of left wing idiots like Bookman and the rest of you who bow to Obama. There is more hate between Americans today then before the civil war and that is YOUR FAULT!

RB from Gwinnett

November 16th, 2012
9:12 am

LHU, “Sure, now how about providing examples of legislation related to these items being voted on”

You notice Jay doesn’t say anything about what that legislation is, no links to it, no nothing. As is typical of Jay, he doens’t provide the half the story he doesn’t want you to know about. So why don’t YOU go find what legislation CR wrote and has been voted on by the state legislators and share that with us.

Lord Help Us

November 16th, 2012
9:12 am

Well going into two pages and the cons have given some false equivalence and, unbelievable, some apparent support for this absurdity…this is why your party will continue its decline…tick…tick…tick…

BTW: Gov Jindal wants you to stop…

Ben Shockley

November 16th, 2012
9:13 am

“How exactly is Glenn Beck any different from Jay Bookman?”

Beck is smarter and makes more money.

JamVet

November 16th, 2012
9:14 am

Obama has less than zero credibility with most Conservatives.

With all seven of them that are left in the Republican Party?

Silly neocons…

mm

November 16th, 2012
9:15 am

“How’d that work out for him? Care to tell us The Rest of The Story?”

Grayson got re-elected last week.

Lord Help Us

November 16th, 2012
9:15 am

‘Lord Help Us – I know I hate Obama and find few things he stands for acceptable for this Nation under our Constitution.’

No problem, I know lots of other people that share your feelings…However, when you stoop to teh stoopid to justify that hatred you become, IMO, pitiful…

DannyX

November 16th, 2012
9:16 am

“You notice Jay doesn’t say anything about what that legislation is, no links to it, no nothing.”

What I noticed RB is that you deflected and didn’t answer the question. In fact you invented a new mini-conspiracy to help you avoid reality.

RB from Gwinnett

November 16th, 2012
9:16 am

LHU, “So RB, do you think Rep Rogers et al spending their time on this ‘issue’ is a good use of taxpayer money?”

Oh gee, I don’t know, it’s at least as good as time spent by the President making up BS stories about Youtube videos being the cause of an ambassador’s death, don’t you think?

Lord Help Us

November 16th, 2012
9:18 am

‘Oh gee, I don’t know,’

There’s your sign…

DannyX

November 16th, 2012
9:18 am

“Oh gee, I don’t know, it’s at least as good as time spent by the President making up BS stories about Youtube videos being the cause of an ambassador’s death, don’t you think?”

Another crazy deflection from RB!

Will

November 16th, 2012
9:19 am

Let’s see, the Grand Ole Party is off to a roaring start in rebranding it’s softer, gentler image.

Ole Miss College Republicans gathered on election night to burn images of the President of the United States while shouting racist comments directed at the President. Republican secessionists have been busily petitioning the United States of America for permission to abandon our grand republic and now Georgia Republicans are spending taxpayer dollars at the Capitol to be “briefed” on lunatic fringe nonsense.

In addition, republicans have decided their message related to Hispanic (no pathway to citizenship and “show me your papers” laws) is sound, its the delivery of the message that needs to be softened. This sounds like the new strategy will be to continue telling Hispanics to “go to hell” but now republicans plan to smile when doing so!

RB from Gwinnett

November 16th, 2012
9:20 am

Peter

November 16th, 2012
9:03 am

You notice none of your cohorts or even Jay are backing you up, Peter? Think….

You don't say

November 16th, 2012
9:20 am

The righty meltdowns which intensified on election night have not even come close to slowing down. It is full steam ahead.

Thanks for the laughs.

the cat

November 16th, 2012
9:20 am

Ben S.-I don’t think anyone called you out on your slip up yesterday. For weeks you have been regaling us with how much money you have, you own your own company, etc.

Then yesterday you made the statement your employer had rights to your emails. You are just another working stiff like the rest of us. Nothing to be ashamed of……..

hahahhahahahahahahaha, BUSTED.

willydoit?

November 16th, 2012
9:21 am

“when you operate from a position of having no fundamental foundation, anything can and will be allowed”

A buddy once told me he loved when the democrats were in power…women went braless, getting laid was easy, pot was in the air everywhere, drugs were easy to obtain…
You know, being a democrat has its advantages!

Georgia

November 16th, 2012
9:21 am

It’s unfair to dismiss concerns about allocation of resources without representation. Taxation without representation is one of those things you have to say in pig latin whenever you visit the statue of liberty, okay? Ixnay on the axtay.

Peter

November 16th, 2012
9:22 am

This is for RB from Gwinnett and willydoit?

Read the entire article…… So you think the guy who ran the US monetary policy for America is now Lying ?

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2607

Invasion of Iraq was driven by oil, says Greenspan

Alan Greenspan, the consummate Washington insider and long-time head of the US central bank, has backed the position taken by many anti-war critics – that the invasion of Iraq was motivated by oil.

His claim comes in his newly published autobiography, The Age of Turbulence, in which he also castigates George Bush’s administration for making “grave mistakes” in economic policy.

Sounding more like an activist than a lifelong Republican who worked alongside six US presidents, Mr Greenspan, the former Federal Reserve chairman, said in an interview with the Guardian that the invasion of Iraq was aimed at protecting Middle East oil reserves: “I thought the issue of weapons of mass destruction as the excuse was utterly beside the point.”

Czarina

November 16th, 2012
9:24 am

I gather none of you people have jobs?
Most of you are deservedly single, too.
‘Divided States of America’
Keep up the kindness, guys.

willydoit?

November 16th, 2012
9:24 am

“willydo is right. The Iraqi oil paid for the war, Bush said so.”

Exactly…remember, it was war for oil…I believe Kerry said so…I could be wrong though, all you democrats sound alike!

ITS ALL BUSH"S FAULT

November 16th, 2012
9:24 am

The GOP/CONS have outsourced their brains to Fake news , Rush, Glen etc…

Brosephus™

November 16th, 2012
9:26 am

Jay, when you operate from a position of having no fundamental foundation, anything can and will be allowed. Nothing is sacred with the democrat party, thus nothing should be considered far-fetched.

E Pluribus Unum… Out of many, One. In case you forgot, that was the original motto of the United States of America. That phrase would apply more to the Democratic Party than the Republican Party seven days of the week. Having a foundation does you absolutely no good when your foundation isn’t large enough to hold more than 2 people.

On the other hand, the far-fetched stuff is coming straight from the Georgia GOP. I don’t think Jay’s essay had anything to do with the Georgia Democratic Party.

Jay

November 16th, 2012
9:26 am

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 16th, 2012
9:27 am

‘a book titled “Agenda 21,” a fictional warning…..’

this is gonna end pretty much like every Jerry Springer show ever, innit

willydoit?

November 16th, 2012
9:28 am

“I thought the issue of weapons of mass destruction as the excuse was utterly beside the point.”

Well, I guess “oil” can be considered a weapon of mass destruction…after all, global warming is caused by the carbon emmisions of our nasty American habits, all fueled by our consumption of oil.

RB from Gwinnett

November 16th, 2012
9:29 am

““So RB, do you think Rep Rogers et al spending their time on this ‘issue’ is a good use of taxpayer money?”

It’s at least as good as time spent listening to Rev. Wright for 20 years, don’t you think?

It’s at least as good as time spent hanging out with a terrorist named Ayers, don’t you think?

Do you tools want all our elected officials, on both sides, to start giving you an accounting of all their time so you can decide what’s appropriate and what isn’t BASED ON YOUR INCREDIBLY BIASED VIEWS?

I have no idea what Rogers and others heard, discussed, anything, but I can absolutely 100% without hesitation tell you I don’t believe Jay Bookman has given us an accurate prortrayal of it. GUARANTEED!! So, who among you has a copy of that legislation you’ve all bashed CR for writing?

DebbieDoRight - Crazee + Uninformed = Republican

November 16th, 2012
9:29 am

Agenda 21? Agenda 21?! BAH! Why isn’t anyone paying attention to the REAL conspiracy around here?!?

Why are we ignoring something that has been a major problem for over 40 years!? Am I the only one to notice this phenomenon? Am I the only one to see its devastating effects?!

People WAKE UP!! Republican men, over the age of 18, brains have started deteriorating at a rapid pace! Ever since LBJ authorized the addition of Chemical X (yeah that’s right, the same chemical compound that created the PowerPuff Girls), into republican leaning states/counties, the republican male’s brains have started to shrink!

This is a call to ARMS people!! This a cry for all of us, man, woman, children, Mexicans, to stand UNITED against this evil Democratic Attack against all that we hold dear!!

They’ll take away our guns! they’ll take away our religion!! They’ll take away our right to freely speak; but when they start taking away republican’s men’s ability to become sane, rational people………….then they have gone too far!!

Everyone Unite Against The Dems and let’s stop their aggressive attack on republican men now before it gets even worse!!

There will be a meeting at Don’s World Of Guns And Paperclips, tomorrow night at 8! Please bring your tinfoil hats, your loaded guns, and all of your reasons why this is Obama’s fault, and we will defeat the enemy!

“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” George W. Bush

DannyX

November 16th, 2012
9:30 am

“You know, being a democrat has its advantages!”

I don’t know Willdo,

Republicans have a lot of advantages too. Your religious leaders get to have massages with male escorts while enjoying meth. Your Senators get to wear diapers while fooling around with prostitutes. Oh, and they can play tap-tap-tappity-tap in public bathrooms. Your Governors can have wild affairs with exotic Argentine women. And of course Georgia Republicans last year wanted serial adulterer Newt to be President. Of course that “lucky” Herman Cain was right “in there” too.

Lord Help Us

November 16th, 2012
9:31 am

‘the republican male’s brains have started to shrink!’

It ain’t just the brains…

Doggone/GA

November 16th, 2012
9:32 am

“remember, it was war for oil”

Does anyone besides me remember the original “name” for that invasion:

Operation Iraqi Liberation

Classic Freudian slip maybe?

Republican War on Thinking

November 16th, 2012
9:32 am

NEW RULE: any state or federal legislator who wants to serve on any state government or federal government SCIENCE COMMITTEE of any kind, must first pass – in a public setting – the High School Science Graduation Competency Exam required by the state he or she represents (all states have some version of that – even Texas).

Or am I asking too much?

TaxPayer

November 16th, 2012
9:32 am

“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” George W. Bush

Truer words…

Lord Help Us

November 16th, 2012
9:33 am

‘I don’t believe Jay Bookman has given us an accurate prortrayal of it. GUARANTEED!!’

Belief? Yes… Facts to back it up? Not so much…

Jay

November 16th, 2012
9:33 am

Rogers was also a co-sponsor of this little gem:

“Urging state and local officers and employees and members of the Georgia National Guard and State Defense Force not to assist or cooperate with the armed forces of the United States; and for other purposes.

WHEREAS, H.R. 1540 of the 112th Congress, the “National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012″ which provides for appropriations for the armed forces for Fiscal Year 2012, provides, in Section 1021, “Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States”; and

WHEREAS, the idea of detaining natural born citizens of this country under military jurisdiction is repugnant to the citizens of this state.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE SENATE that the members of this body encourage state and local officers and employees and members of the Georgia National Guard and State Defense Force not to assist or cooperate with the armed forces of the United States if such aid would, in the opinion of the responsible individual, place any Georgia authority in violation of the United States Constitution, the Constitution of Georgia, any provision of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, any Act of the General Assembly, or any rule, regulation, or ordinance of a state agency or authority, political subdivision, or local authority.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Secretary of the Senate is authorized and directed to transmit an appropriate copy of this resolution the public and the press.”

Mr. Snarky

November 16th, 2012
9:33 am

It makes people feel more important if they’re opposing Stalinism where everyone is going to be shipped to gulags than a left-leaning centrist democrat that want everyone to have health insurance.

Fantasyland ain’t just in Disney.

"And Then They Prayed"

November 16th, 2012
9:34 am

The Rome Tea Party is headed by conspiracy theroist Mike Morton, who has been preaching this nonsense of Agenda 21 for over a year. He does a local radio show every Saturday morning and spreads this message of non-sense to the masses. And since most people here never graduated high school, they hear this garbage on the radio and believe it completely. That’s how the Tea Party manages to exist. It’s called the Politics of Fear. Keep the masses scared to death and you can control them. That’s how the KKK operates; the fear of blacks and hispanics keeps the rednecks coming to the meetings. The fear of communism kept the John Birch Society in business. Now you have the hucksters at the Tea Party selling fear of the government to keep their membership growing. And they believe all of this can be cured if we just keep electing more white male republicans who love Jesus and hate taxes. Mike Morton preaches that Senator Barry Loudermilk is the second coming of Christ because Loudermilk wants mandatory prayer in school, while banning the evil government from implanting micro-chips in our brains. And now, the most evil of all plots has been exposed. The government take-over of the world, not by military force, but through something more powerful … local zoning ordinances. And the Republican Party can’t figure out why they lost the election? The GOP will be alright in Georgia for about another 8 years until the apocolypse. That’s when Georgia will become a minority majority state and Mike Morton’s head will officially explode.

RB from Gwinnett

November 16th, 2012
9:38 am

THATS what you’re upset about, Jay? The UN resolution is real, they do take people’s land in the manner described, they make “wetlands” claims all over the place to control development, pretty much everything in there is actually happening, so what’s your problem with it? Honestly, I’d never heard of it and I don’t know the connection between it and the things you see happening all the time, but whatever the source, those things are happening.

Question for you, Jay. Do you believe in the concepts behind the UN resolution?

Lord Help Us

November 16th, 2012
9:39 am

Here’s another, RB:

Dude put the “chip” in microchip:

http://www1.legis.ga.gov/legis/2009_10/search/sb235.htm

Your turn…

TaxPayer

November 16th, 2012
9:39 am

Let ye Republican[s] that is[are] with sanity be the first to cast said stone. Stand up and be recognized, oh many sane Republicans. Prove Jay correct.

willydoit?

November 16th, 2012
9:39 am

“Republicans have a lot of advantages too. Your religious leaders get to have massages with male escorts while enjoying meth. Your Senators get to wear diapers while fooling around with prostitutes. Oh, and they can play tap-tap-tappity-tap in public bathrooms. Your Governors can have wild affairs with exotic Argentine women. And of course Georgia Republicans last year wanted serial adulterer Newt to be President. Of course that “lucky” Herman Cain was right “in there” too.”

We are a crazy nation!! Yes, you are correct here….but at least the democrats don’t have to hide to do all these things!
A democrat will talk to you at the liquor store! :lol:

Jay

November 16th, 2012
9:40 am

See how neatly RB glides from “THERE IS NO SUCH LEGISLATION!!!” to “THAT LEGISLATION IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!!!!!”

That kind of leap takes a very “nimble” mind.

Edward R.

November 16th, 2012
9:41 am

Methinks you’re about as paranoid as Glenn Beck. First of all, the Republican Party is all for public-private parnterhsips. In fact, Rep. John Mica wants to do away with Amtrak altogether and allow private companies to take over.

Anyway, you want to hear another insane story?

Republican Agenda:
-Deregulate Wall Street by repealing the Glass-Stegall law
-Make up reasons to go to war in Iraq, even though the country can’t afford it
-Let financial institutions do whatever they want, including selling worthless mortgage-backed securities for a profit
-Turn your back on millions of Americans who are losing their homes and jobs
-Give $700 billion in taxpayer money to the very financial institutions that nearly bankrupt the country and tell them to do whatever they want with it
-Produce a Presidential candidate in 2012 who says that the answer to fixing America’s economy is to deregulate Wall Street

Your editorial is about as stupid as George W. Bush. Sorry.

Lord Help Us

November 16th, 2012
9:41 am

RB, stop deflecting…

So RB, do you think Rep Rogers et al spending their time on this ‘issue’ is a good use of taxpayer money?

Peter

November 16th, 2012
9:43 am

willydoit?………. Well, I guess “oil” can be considered a weapon of mass destruction…after all, global warming is caused by the carbon emmisions of our nasty American habits, all fueled by our consumption of oil.

No denying Bush was the only president not asking the auto industry to give us more miles per gallon.

You may want to check into the use of Coal as well for energy…. that is a huge polluter of the environment, and carbon emissions.

Peter

November 16th, 2012
9:44 am

A democrat will talk to you at the liquor store!

Wow….. no talking in stores to other American’s is the answer ?

DebbieDoRight - Crazee + Uninformed = Republican

November 16th, 2012
9:45 am

RB: t’s at least as good as time spent listening to Rev. Wright for 20 years, don’t you think?

Wow!

How about this:

27 years of owning Fox News — Rupert Murdoch
24 years on Radio — Rush Limbaugh
14 Years on Fox — Sean Hannity
7 Years on Fox — Glenn Beck

The total combined from above, is over 70 years of crazy hatred filled rants. 24/7.

Deal with it.

PS: Don’t miss the meeting at Don’s….. :)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 16th, 2012
9:46 am

WOW!

Only a week after the election and we have secession petitions and Glen Beck, neither of which have been denounced by our resident cons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOSARRZiC2g

mm

November 16th, 2012
9:46 am

Well, I have to visit your land of Oz next week for turkey day. I’ll just stay at my moms house so I won’t have to run into any of the racist bigots I grew up with. Stay classy GA.

DannyX

November 16th, 2012
9:47 am

“People WAKE UP!! Republican men, over the age of 18, brains have started deteriorating at a rapid pace! Ever since LBJ authorized the addition of Chemical X (yeah that’s right, the same chemical compound that created the PowerPuff Girls), into republican leaning states/counties, the republican male’s brains have started to shrink!”

Oh Debbie… That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read! You Democrats are crazy. The cause of Republican Male Brain Deterioration Syndrome is much more complex. Yes Chemical X did contribute to RMBDS but it was hardly the single reason.

You see, back when Bill Clinton was President, Hillary was able to get her hands on Big Government PBS. The Teletubby tv program on PBS was already turning little boys gay with the Purple Teletubby. Hillary used the same UN approved brainwashing scheme to poison our little boys in other ways. Hillary used a Pink Teletubby to subliminally cause brain cells to deteriorate in innocent toddler boys.

The outcome has been devastating, the Democratic boys turned out to be gay. The Republican boys severely brain damaged. We now have gay marriage and Fox News.

RMBDS is a major problem that Chip Rogers will be holding hearings on soon.

Whatever

November 16th, 2012
9:48 am

I’m a moderate con and my dad is an old blue-dog Democrat. We were discussing the other day how there is nobody left for us to vote for. The right is too nutty for me and the left is to liberal for him.

I truly wish we could find a third party that could bring some stability to the mess we are in now.

MANGLER

November 16th, 2012
9:48 am

Fine, I’ll attempt to fight fantasy with facts.
82% of the US population IS already urban. There can’t be a mass push to move farmers into cities … we’re already here!
All of those public/private partnerships (at least here in GA) are owned and operated by Republicans. They’re scared of themselves?
The “job” of a representative is to unite and grow the constituency, not divide and conquer it. That would be like, um … those first 2 photographs.

Peter

November 16th, 2012
9:49 am

You notice none of your cohorts or even Jay are backing you up, Peter? Think…

I have articles that are backing me up…. I have the proof……

Just educate yourself RB from Gwinnett.

Erwin's cat

November 16th, 2012
9:49 am

so they went to a presentation….so what?

what ever they “do” they can only do as much as the electorate will tolerate or abide. This talk that a few politicians will drastically change any landscape against the will of the people is a reach at best…the only mandate they have is to be reelected.

alex

November 16th, 2012
9:50 am

Both parties have lunatics and idiots , to characterize and demonize the entire party as idiots is plain stupid . You guys babble among yourselves and confirm your own biases and that gets you farther and farther from the reality of a very grey world, but if you want to think in black and white-go ahead…. i usually can learn from “the other side”, but this thread has really collapsed onto prejudices . With the advent of goggle, one can find anything, quickly that will support their position, try looking for opposing views, you will learn more……BUt, then again that is more difficult, a lot to ask from this crowd… ‘male escorts while enjoying meth..republican male brains have begun to shrink”…..