Secession mania reaches the City of Atlanta

Let the Yankees burn down some other city this time.

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THIS “SECESSION” MESS HAS GOT TO STOP. THIS IS A BUNCH OF “BABIES”, WHINING BABIES OR WIMPS, WHO DO NOT WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT LIFE GOES ON EVEN WHEN THEY DO NOT GET THEIR WAY. THESE SECESSIONISTS HATE THE FACT OBAMA WON OVERWHELMINGLY. THEY NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE WANTING; THEY DO NOT NEED THESE SECESSIONISTS VOTE. OBAMA HAS WON AND CASE “CLOSED”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GET A LIFE AND KEEP IT MOVIN’.

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Dear friends,

I wanted to let you know about a new petition I created on We the People, a new feature on WhiteHouse.gov, and ask for your support. Will you add your name to mine? If this petition gets 25,000 signatures by December 14, 2012, the White House will review it and respond!

We the People allows anyone to create and sign petitions asking the Obama Administration to take action on a range of issues. If a petition gets enough support, the Obama Administration will issue an official response.

You can view and sign the petition here:

http://wh.gov/XCVc

Here’s some more information about this petition:

END THE DISSENSION WITHIN OUR NATION AND PREVENT REBELLION FOR LIGHT AND TRANSIENT CAUSES AMONG OUR PEOPLE.

The Declaration of Independence gives the right to not just the people of this nation but to the government as well to make drastic change in the form of our government. The charges that were once placed upon King George are now growing upon our own Government. Our nation is once again in the position that it saw in the 1760s. Rights have been removed and replaced with lies of security. Few have seen the results of laws that have been enacted to this end. The wrongs done to the people are becoming known and will soon be understood letting loose more anger than resolve. Former President Truman was right in his veto of the Internal Securities Act of 1950. If he were here now he would be leading the rebellion that comes by way the truths that have gone unheard. Return these rights. Please.

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Somebody should have told these secessionists an online petition is like attaching a giant snark magnet to your butt.

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I’ve also heard tell of a similar one where Austin wants to remain a part of the Union, but secede from Texas.

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Good one Atlanta

cons don’t need to sign no silly petition.

Just get out.

Leave.

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Please list the names, photos, and addresses of those that would like to secede. Fellow Georgians would like to counsel them and help with the arrangements.

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And Buckhead would like to secede from Atlanta and form its own city/county, etc. Maybe the subdivision a couple streets away wants to keep our subdivision out, who knows.

Sorry, we are all Americans (not hyphenated Americans, “All” American) and we might as well get used to living with each other. I believe the secession question was answered 147 years ago, just taking some of the dimwits around here a little longer on the uptake.

No one likes the increasing daily intrusion of ever increasing government (thank you Ron Paul for a great goodbye speech), but it’s the only government we have. It just needs to be one heck of a lot smaller and stay out of people’s lives (sorry, liberals, I know intruding to every facet of everyone’s life is your wish come true)

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Now that republicans have a super majority in the state legislature, I’d settle for a Milton County. Fulton sux.

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The last time that Texas tried to secede, it did not work out right….Georgians might want to rethink their decisions…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLz7XQOIOQ

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I’m going to secede from Stone Mtn.and go to my deer camp! But I only expect myself and I to go with me.

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“Please list the names, photos, and addresses of those that would like to secede. Fellow Georgians would like to counsel them and help with the arrangements.”

why waste time counselling?

just help ‘em pack.

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I must have forgot to set my clock back to 1863.

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I will donate my sky miles to help the cons leave.

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GG @ 11.03, dang. I’m starting to think maybe I need to click on the Orange Satan more often.

Not that it isn’t merely confirming what I’ve known, as a Gwinnettian, myself.

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Love it or leave in cons.

Leave.

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Jay: nd the parts of Macon, Georgia made famous by the Allman Brothers.

Now THAT’s funny!! Almost as funny as those georgians who didn’t /couldn’t vote for Paul Broun, (i think its because he has a mental deficiency), and wrote in Charles Darwin’s name instead. Darwin received 4,000 votes.

Stevie: unless they take north fulton with them, they will never survive financially..

Bullcrap! 10 of the top 20 businesses in the US are in Atlanta. 5 of those ten have their headquarters in atlanta. The majority of the jobs those North fulton people have are in Atlanta. Methinks you speaketh out of the sideth of your necket.

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On a more serious note, most (if not all) of those folks out there who are signing these various petitions have never seen or experienced this:

“In my 65 years I have seen our flag flying thousands and thousands of times but when you have seen it flying in a foreign land over battleground defended by Americans the emotion is an overwhelming one that forever lives within.”

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I can’t believe all this craziness because the President got re-elected. Before you sign your name to some crazy petition. Remember this. Social security is a government program, along with Medicare. Which is the insurance for millions of people. The disabled, seniors and veterans and so forth. Medicaid pays insurance not only for the poor but for seniors when they are in a nursing home. If you are well off like a lot of the super pacs you have nothing to worry about,but if you don’t what is your state going to do without government aid for so many programs the state and so many people rely on. Are you ready to do without them like unemployment payments so you can at least survive. Is your state willing to hire you when government jobs are scarce. What happens to all the so called politicians going to do for you. You really need to think about all this before some knee jerk reaction.

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Stevie Ray
And I might point out that Georgia, which has long suckled from the federal t**t, as in drawing more from the U.S. treasury than it contributes in to it, would never survive on it’s own either.

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This reminds me of my daughter, when she was about two years old. If she wanted something bad enough, she would hold her breath, until she got it. We counseled with her pediatrician about whether it was safe to let her turn blue in the face. He said it was ok and that she might even pass out. We should just make sure she didn’t hit her head on any hard object, and she would be ok and this phase would pass.
My advice to secessionists is observe caution, nobody is going to stop you from hitting your head on a hard object.

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The hilarity of the city of Atl trying to survive without the wealthy, affluent, republican suburbs. It would be a war zone within 24 hours. I love this idea, as long as N. Fulton is split back to Milton and Atlanta takes the scourge of the state – Clayton County (minus H-JIA of course)

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[...] from: Secession mania reaches the City of Atlanta – Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) [...]

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““In my 65 years I have seen our flag flying thousands and thousands of times but when you have seen it flying in a foreign land over battleground defended by Americans the emotion is an overwhelming one that forever lives within.””

haven’t been on this planet 65 years (yet), but I feel that way every time I’m in the battlegrounds in Europe … heartbreaking and so moving

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and for all you folks out there that truly believe a state could actually suceed from the union…

…the republicans want to take away your social security and the democrats are coming to take your guns!!

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their psuedo reality?

Oh, Liberal Nightmare?

I don’t really have to tell the class about your pre-election braggadocio AGAIN, do I?

Did you ever pick a Wednesday to come back and tell us how wrong we were about Obama’s re-election prospects?

Because I’ll be looking forward to being here for that.

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When I was 12 years old I packed my bags and left home. Amusingly my Dad watched me red faced leaving his house and more red faced coming back with hat in hand.

In Georgia’s succession haven’t we tried this once before with less than mixed results? If I were the feds I would gladly accept this second attempt. We still would become a foreign aid ward of the US but I imagine that is cheaper than the welfare we collect now and at least foreign countries can be cut off for being idiots.

This would be the biggest contribution the south has ever made to the welfare of this country. Just before this mutiny is complete, please lower a life boat down for me and my family, so we can get off. Then let these pirates have it, like Castro and Cuba, it should be fun to watch, at a distance.

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Someday the blue states may get tired of sending their money to support the red states and let them go.
Georiga gets back $1.09 for every $1.00 it sends to Washingto. Pretty even trade sounds to me.

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I love how the first thing that spews out of peoples mouth is “see how you’ll make it with government program”….did occur to you people that the ones screaming secession aren’t ON any government progarms. Ones who are on government programs are keeping quite……they don’t want to ruin their cash cow……I tired of busting my but on a daily basis for me and mine AND the people that won’t do it for themselves.

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As long as there’s low-hangin’ fruit for picking…

Now that republicans have a super majority in the state legislature, I’d settle for a Milton County.

oh yoo-hoo, F. Sink? I educated our own “MiltonMan” about what you guys have to do to make that happen. There’s a little matter of getting the rest of the state on board with your little carve-out. You know, those people who live in counties that maybe don’t want the coupla-three richest cities just up and deciding one day that *they* can’t be bothered?

Your little pretend-county is not going to happen. Much as I’d like to watch those ingrates try.

(and you do know why I call the Miltonians “ingrates”, don’t you? If not, read some damn history.)

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So Sinky… did you sign a petition to secede from the US?

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We are really three countries. The northeast and midwest blue states.
The south and west red states.
And the west coast blue states make the third.
Look at the map.

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Really Granny you need a hobby, went to your web site, how do you have the time to find these little far-whatever web sites, ? …..KOS, that’s a mover……..

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atler8

November 15th, 2012
11:17 am
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I recently had occasion to drive extensively through rural Georgia & noted then that it seemed to be largely populated more by recipients than contributors.

You recently had an occasion to see rural GA ???? Truely spoken like someone who doesn’t know GA from being here all their life. And please tell me, if rural are is taking federal handouts….why did they mostly vote Republican, the “non hand out party” but ATL was blue as could be. Hmmmmmmmmmmm

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Stands

How cool…

We should get together sometime….Anybody else in Gwinnett?

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Every idiot in every state that signed these petitions should have their citizenship revoked. They can then deport themselves or we will do it for them.

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Calm down and take two asprine. It’s not treason to disuss changing the government or even leaving the union.
It is illegal to advocate the violent overthrow of the govenment but the petitions don’t do that.
Long live freedom of speech.

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And please tell me, if rural are is taking federal handouts….why did they mostly vote Republican, the “non hand out party” ……………….

Because they’re stoooopid?

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Ruh Roh, just heard from my buddies up in Cleveland/Akron at the U of Akron and they are telling me their local polls which are evenly weighted are showing Romney up by 5 points with a margin of 2.5. For those in the dark, southern Ohio is red, only the north has any hopes in carrying the state for the Demographicrats. For the geographically challenged, Akron to Cleveland is blue Ohio and it ain’t looking good for the O-dumber. Surprisingly, the number of undecideds in the polls have dropped to below 2%. You’re toast libs. You won’t see this in the media, but stay tuned for Tuesday night. I’ll be around to rub it in….. assuming I am not a riot victim. Note to self – avoid SW Atlanta Wednesday.

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F. Sinkwich

November 15th, 2012
11:21 am
“The Founding Fathers would be ashamed of them.”

No, they’d be ashamed of the Americans who elected someone so bent on destroying this nation’s founding principles.

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tee hee hee

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Please, folks who are so dissatisfied, leave. Mexico would be glad to have you. Might give you some perspective, as well.

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And in the case of more stupidity from the GOP:

The head of the Republican Party in Maine thinks there might have been voter fraud in his state because “nobody in town knows anyone who’s black,” but black voters came in to vote on election day….In an interview with an NBC affiliate, Webster said he was astounded by the “dozens, dozens of black people” who voted, and thought it was odd because he personally doesn’t know anyone who knows a black person in town”

May I suggest a “Meet your black person day”?

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Anyone know how much Confederate money is going for on the stock exchange?

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Don’t know but I still have a five dollar bill tucked away that I got from my grandmother. Nice design.

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alex

November 15th, 2012
11:26 am
Really Granny you need a hobby, went to your web site, how do you have the time to find these little far-whatever web sites, ? …..KOS, that’s a mover……..

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Bless Your heart.

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“Jobless claims rise 78000 over the prior week. I am surprised. Really. I am. What a joke. It is just the tip of the iceburg. Welcome to the new norm”

Hurricane Sandy is the new norm???

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Liberal nightmare @ 11:07
And pray tell how long you are going to stay in your mother’s basement & write your stuff?

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The ‘new secessionists’ — driven to near madness apparently by the re-election of a black man for president — crack educated citizens of other states up.

Why? Because most of these neo-secessionist folk live in states — like Georgia — that are a *drain* on the federal tax system — getting more federal money than they send to Washington in the first place. Yet they have managed to convince themselves that the federal government is ‘robbing’ them.

Some cynics just say, let these states and their willfully ignorant, logic-bereft, science-rejecting, backwards, superstitious past-clingers go. They’re a drain on the nation.

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scott,

” I am so glad I served to protect the liberty you used to destroy this great country.”

How so?

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Keep up the Good Fight,
“meet your black person day” … made my day. Thanks!

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Jay

When you have a moment, could you please pass my e-mail to Stands and vice versa?

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. Stupid conversation…

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Alex, we agree on that.

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Looks like the Stock Market has already started succeeding, talk about your “positive” reaction to the election….NOT

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Tundra Dude@ 11:18–

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.did occur to you people that the ones screaming secession aren’t ON any government progarms.

Yes that actually DID occur to me…………………..then my alarm clock rung and woke me up.

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DebbieDoRight – Math has a very strong anti-conservative bias

November 15th, 2012
11:41 am
Tundra Dude@ 11:18–

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.did occur to you people that the ones screaming secession aren’t ON any government progarms.

Yes that actually DID occur to me…………………..then my alarm clock rung and woke me up.

I guess you’re one of the several I’m supporting…….

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On this we agree. The idea of secession is ludicrous!

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Jay, I know that Kyle is your co-worker but he is out of touch. I was reading his last post (How the GOP can turn Obama’s ‘I won’ attitude against him)and it seems like he wants the country to fail …just damn….even he is a sore loser…..

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At the risk of beating a dead horse , I must post Krugman’s words on this thread also, because they are, inadvertently, apt in describing the heart of the national secession movement:

“And I don’t think the Republican party as currently constituted can change this: after 45 years of the Southern strategy, this stuff is what defines the party’s soul.”
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From the book, “Washington: A Life,” by Ron Chernow:

“Although he held his tongue during debates, Washington was never a neutral party, and the interminable squabbling only reinforced his view that the country needed a potent central government to override the selfish ambitions of local politicians. . . .’I almost despair of seeing a favorable issue to. . .the convention’ he informed Hamilton on July 10, chastising ‘narrow-minded politicians. . . .under the influence of local views.’ “

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This country was founded by traitors. Much easier to talk about silly secession petitions than the continued increase of crushing debt. Keep whistling past the graveyard leeches. The cliff is coming fast! Sequestration now!

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I say let ‘em go and take the rest of the Confederacy with them. We’d all be better off

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It’s official now, Jay. There are secession petitions on file at the White House website for all 50 states. Every single state is going to secede, and the USA will consist solely of the District of Columbia. (Seems the entire nation is stuck in “STUPID” gear.)
Say what you want about the internet, but it does give a lot of disgruntled people a place to gather and pitch a collective hissy fit.

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Morons. .. all federal funding will be cut off. Ie: education InfraStruxure social welfare programs the list goes on. The new sovereign countries taxes will escalate to the point of breaking everyone’s back. then will start screaming to become a part of the United States again. I say let this happen. and when they scream bloody murder allow the individuals who want to defect go through our immigration process like anybody else who wants to come to the United States. That will teach them. Lol

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atler8

November 15th, 2012
11:46 am
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If my being here in Georgia since 1979 doesn’t count, well you tell me the criteria that I have to meet to reach your standards.
As I drove through rural Georgia, my observations were made in view of the then very currently publicized Mitt gaffe about the 47% & noted that rural Georgia seemd to look like a “take” region more than a “contribute” region in his terms.
Yeah, & all of the Rmoney signs caused me to realize how easy it is to fool so many people into voting against their own economic self interests, such as through the use of socially conservative, personally intrusive, divisive & distracting wedge issues. That is something that has worked for years in the republican elections playbook.
Get it?

I’ll leave you with the only thing I gathered from you…

“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

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The secessionists are unpatriotic and traitorous. They whine because their candidate lost an election.

If they’d come right out and say “that black guy is scary” I might have more respect for them.
But their petition copypasta’d part of the Declaration of Independence including ” the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.” They could have at least cited being butthurt over the election.

Let’s hear your reasons, nutbags. Are Redcoats sleeping on your couch?

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Eric R

November 15th, 2012
11:46 am

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Where do you live?

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I can guarantee that we will not let a state secede. But individual people have the right to do so already.

If people want to give up paying taxes to the US, drawing Social Security/Medicare, etc from the US, then the door is not locked. There are 195 other countries in the world.

I am not sure state governments would welcome the loss of federal dollars as well as the loss of their citizens federal dollars.

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Slogans you’ll never hear in a political campaign in the future:

2008: John McCain/Sarah Palin = “Country First”
2010: Midtern Elections = “Take Our Country Back”
2012: Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan = “The 47 Percent”
POST 2012 Election: = “Secession”

Can’t get your country back… Then secede…
It’s all in BLACK & WHITE for all the world to see. LOL

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Keep Up The Good Fight,

Come share the pain! Jump off the Cliff. I’ll hold your hand. I know it’s scary. It’ll all be over before you know it. The leeches can start over with a clean slate again. It’ll be glorious!

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Where do I sign?

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America these days boils down to a tongue twister, The haves and the have nots ….and the have nots want what the haves have…….truly un- American, but I’m sure someone will give a lame reason why those who won’t do anything themselves should recieve from the ones who will…..

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Sequestration now! But first lunch…Mmmmm

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America these days boils down to a tongue twister, The haves and the have nots…

There are only two kinds of people — those that believe that there are only two kinds of people, and then there’s the rest of us.

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As Peter Sellers character Sidney Wang said in Murder By Death:” Conversation like television on honeymoon….unnecessary.”

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“so, F Sink … where’s that list??? we’re waiting …”

No, I think you’re the only one.

In any case, why don’t we start with O’bozo calling the Constitution negative. He hates it. That’s why he radically transformed this country into a euro-socialist basket case welfare state.

Lib ilks like you are proud of that. The founders would be as ashamed as I am.

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Judging by the philosophies expressed here, I guess the founding fathers were wrong for declaring independence from England.

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filky is depressed.

There are meds for that.

Anyhoo, in the real world, betrayus is testifying behind close doors so the gop can shut up about Benghazi.

The idea of a perfect President or government is ridiculous.

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Talk about sour grapes, these are the same losers who wanted to move too canada a few days ago.
Let them leave, take back all are military equipment that’s in there state,all there federal funding.
Then dig up the border fence with mexico and put it between texas and the rest of the country where it belong. Those ignorant bumpkins will be destitute within 6 months.

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off topic- Anyone with concerns about Israel wiping out that so called chief “military officer” in Gaza and Israel treating the Palestinians unfairly and being unwilling to negotiate, I suggest you go right now to :
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/ and see what the Palestinians have for the latest peace initiative.
Children getting hit by rockets does not form the basis of a peace treaty. Thank god for the Iron Dome anti-missle system Obama helped fund after going to Sderot and seeing where the missles land.

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Occupied
And when you have nothing to add here, just resort to namecalling.
I understand you.

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Occupied after you succeed you going to shoot the minorities or gas em? Maybe you plan to reintroduce slavery. And health care, you going to just let em die on the streets? Before you finish you will have to be your own labor force, got a feeling the minority workers will be relocated to a better job market. So there you sit in your big house on the hill, cotton in the fields and nobody but yourself to pick it. “When those cotton balls get rotten you don’t pick very much cotton in those old cotton fields back home.” Now you are not getting much money coming in anymore and you discover you wish you had the help back, but it is too late, you are the help you think you are feeding and your ain’t getting feed…. You will look like Tara the day after.

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Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

There are only two kinds of people — those that believe that there are only two kinds of people, and then there’s the rest of us.
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No Shyte

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I see granny and Stands want to commiserate or Jay is the new LOVE /politics connection…hmmmConfirmation of bias……..hmmmmmmm,

Meet a black person day, gotta love it, in ATLANTA, GA. , I think I’ll have a lobster, and you talk about Southern ignorance…pass the drawn butter…. YUM

Good day all, short day today, ……”pie, pie, I love pie….”

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“There are only two kinds of people — those that believe that there are only two kinds of people, and then there’s the rest of us.”

there are two kinds of people, those who can extrapolate …

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independent thinker

November 15th, 2012
12:14 pm

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There are two peoples at war there. And war continues until one side surrenders or they both agree to stop. Don’t see either of those options in sight at the moment.
Israel could take over the West Bank and Gaza and make it one country. That’s probably the fastest wat toward peace. Don’t really see any other way to end the war.

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The Bubble Boys still need to find a reason that they lost that does not but the blame on them and their message. It not you it’s me……..I have decided that was a woman I no longer need a white man to tell me what to do, I refuse to submit to an ultrasound wand to get a legal procedure. I don’t have to be home by 5 to make your dinner. I don’t have to look like you to get a job, as a matter of fact I don’t need you at all anymore. No binders needed gentlemen. When the ladies and the other minorities you love to try to suppress vote together we can win, and we know that now.

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DebbieDoRight – Math has a very strong anti-conservative bias

November 15th, 2012
11:12 am

Heard of the Shafer amendment? It’s ok to subsidize south fulton with funds collected in north fulton…of course Atl including south fulton would not survive long without revenue for the north…

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DDR:
Tundra Dude@ 11:18–
Oh, thanx…thought nobody reads my shtuff..

Just noticed that….”math has anti-con bias”…LOL!!!

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If you don’t like it here, leave the country. Saying that is more stupid then signing the petitions.

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Looks like there will never be peace in the ME
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And the north and south here will never get along.
And the west doesn’t like either one.

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The only way to solve this is for Obama and Biden to trade titles.

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Everyone deserves a chance to succeed.

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GT

November 15th, 2012
12:15 pm

nice post..sounds like something out of the history books of Georgia.

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Jay

It’s been a little over a year since the peach pass lanes opened up on I-85, so it may be too early for any data yet, but I’m wonderin’ if this endeavor has been a success.

When I travel up and down I-85 (off-peak hours) those lanes are as empty as a pawn broker’s heart.

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mbtc — “Let’s just swap all the successionists for the Mexicans that WANT to be part of this great country.”

Win-win!

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“A 17 week pregnant woman has died after being refused an abortion that could have saved her life.”

the kicker – she was having a miscarriage – so it’s not even like the fetus could have been saved.

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There are American villages in Mexico and the cost of living is cheaper.

Mostly seniors so the cons would fit right in.

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What are the chances of this(secession) ending up as a catagory question on Jeopardy? Stranger things have happened. The American political science textbooks for universities in 2050 along with the American history books for middle and high schools will have a treasure of events to chronicle.
The rest of the world already figured that America has lost it’s mind.

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Fred

I heard this morning that Hope Solo married the douchebag that assaulted her just hours after his punk ass got out of jail.

There’s no accounting for the taste of some wimmen.

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Joe: Oxycontin’s a hell of a drug

Too funny! Another GREAT Dave Chappelle classic!

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When Atlanta was burned during the War between the States, people cared. If Atanta burned again..most people would cheer!!

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FRED

If we were taxed to come into ATL, all of us asshats would just not go…we’d be delighted to keep our tax cash up here…we could probably reduce the onerous additional burden from being part of fulton county..

An effort is underway…Milton County needed Fulton in 1930 or whenever, Fulton needs North Fulton even moreso…

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USinUK

I know. It just made me sad to hear that crap.

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Peadawg — “I’ll even help you pack and take your ars to the airport.”

Indeed. And I’ve got about a half-million frequent flyer miles between my Delta and United accounts; that ought to be enough to ship more than a handful of cons out of here.

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Shades of John C. Calhoun. Let’s also bring back nullification. The easier answer is of course to offer all of these extremists their wish to be separate with their own country in, for example, Idaho, Utah and Wyoming. Plenty of right wingnuts there already who would welcome them. And beautiful country and they would have international border with Canada. Anyone in those states who did not want that could have the choice of voluntarily repatriating to the US. Perhaps we could give them abandoned homes of TeaNuts? But don’t know they would adapt well to tin roofs and outhouses. As to relations with the US, I am not prone to be too kind to them since they have such a manifest hatred of our country. But the nature of relations could be open to negotiations, like with any foreign country.

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Food for thought – Clayton County elections are living proof that Romney could well have been right about the 47%.

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The cons posting here can ALL use Obamacare to get their antidepressants thanks to PRESIDENT OBAMA

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And I’m glad that Romney and his millionaire donors are being revealed as the TAKERS they really are — sucking all our American tax $$ away in their offshore accounts!

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“and then they try to leave and you call them cowards, traitors, etc. of course you want them to stay”

No, I will help them leave.

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These sorry, whining, secessionist losers need to take a lesson from Auburn fans this year. WORST season ever. Total humiliation. Every hope of redemption rejected, Saturday after Saturday. Do you see Auburn fans whining to secede from the Southeastern Conference? “Ooooo… we don’t wanna play football against teams that beat us anymore. Wah wah wah!”

Geebus, grow up, traitors. When SEC football fans are behaving with more dignity than you are, what does that tell you about yourself?

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You guys have it all wrong.

When the states suceed in seceding then they too can be like China. Minimum wage gone.

Cost of imports skyhigh, etc.

Poisoned water (no EPA).

Good times for all

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FRED

The business’s domiciled in ATL would leave too as more of the tax burden would have to be shifted to them…as quick as you could say “have a Coke and a smile” they’d be gone because the city could no longer afford any subsidies..

Those succeeding with ATL are screwed. Fred, another suggestion, take a look at public filings of all Fortune 500 companies in the ATL and go to heading “Employees”…there you can find a breakdown of what miniscule amount of employees of these companies are actually domiciled in ATL…you may be surprised what the asshats have and would to if ATL became less attractive…inequality divide too much in city of ATL to survive…sad but true..

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noneya,

mitt is gone.

History.

Move on sore loser.

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“we’d be delighted to keep our tax cash up here…we could probably reduce the onerous additional burden from being part of fulton county..”

Keep your cash???? North Fulton sends more tax dollars to rural/south Georgia than they do to Atlanta/south Fulton. 33% of your gas tax revenue for example is being used to build unnecessary 4 lane highways all over Georgia while you sit in traffic.

It’s funny how Atlanta is the big bad boogeyman while the rest of the state is busy picking your pockets unnoticed. I wonder why.

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Looks like the Obama recession is on the way

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hilaris — “of course you want them to stay, otherwise you’ll have to stick your hands in your own pocket.”

Sorry, no. They’re getting stuck whether they stay or whether they go. Read my 12:16 for details.

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Stevie Ray

November 15th, 2012
12:49 pm

FRED

The business’s domiciled in ATL would leave too as more of the tax burden would have to be shifted to them…as quick as you could say “have a Coke and a smile” they’d be gone because the city could no longer afford any subsidies..
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No they wouldn’t. They would stay in the UNITED STATES pal. Don’t kid yourself. I know it wouldn’t effect you because you don;’t have a job, but those in the new foreign Country ‘Georgia” that DO work, would have to find new jobs or get work visa’s. And have you seen the wait list for foreign nationals wanting to work in the US?

Quit kidding yourself. All your silly assed talk is just that. Silly assed talk. You do it in the comfort of your UNITED STATES freedoms while being protected by the laws and military of the UNITED STATES. Take that away and little North Fulton Country is just a crap hole of unemployed malcontents without enough natural resources to support themselves. If you are nice we MIGHT sell you some gasoline and water……….

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Sounds like a really smart idea for GA. How about as a show of good faith, and that you can handle it, the state turns down the federal disaster relief it was just given.

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“USinUk, pretty pathetic to use that tragedy,Really remarkable anyone could stoop so low, give it a rest, you and the Atwater guy need to get a grip, pathetic-really pathetic”

I beg your pardon???

“using that tragedy”???

the story was raised and I commented that she was having a miscarriage, anyway, so get off your high flipping horse, bucko.

and, yes, THAT is exactly the world the anti-abortion crowd would have us live in, so sorry you don’t like those facts – but that’s who you’re voting for, dearest.

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BF – You know that’s unconstitutional.

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N. Yobinnes — “Ah yes Joe. The gub-ment will go to any lengths to bleed its citizens dry.”

I’m sure it doesn’t trouble you that the GOP has never raised much of a stink about the Expat Tax.

BTW, the law also provides that renunciants of US Citizenship can be denied entry into the United States at any time, without reason. So renunciation of your citizenship can turn out to be a one-way ticket.

Kinda makes that whole holding-your-breath-until-you-turn-blue threat a lot steeper in terms of stakes, huh?

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Nunna Yobinnes
Not if the Constitution is amended to provide for it.

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The American People (elderly, women, minorities, gays & lesbians, Muslims & Jews, etc.) have spoken loud and clear and we are sick and tired of the homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” (klansmen, skinheads, militia’s, birther’s, etc.). The “tea party” weapons of choice are hatred, fear and rage/mob mentality against the American People. The GOP/tea party lost the Presidential election because the whole world saw their hatred and bigotry on display during the 2008 midterm elections and heard their battle cry (take back my country)as well as saw the majority of poor uneducated, disenfranshised White American’s embrace the “tea party” as a protest vote against the American People for electing the 1st Black American President of the USA. President Obama was elected by a landslide victory in 2012 just like he did in 2008. Know the “tea party” terrorist group(s) want to secede from the USA. Talk about crazy lunatics. Let them secede.

The American People

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stands, I missed your post before but just caught it. That Maine GOP party head is rather pathetic in my book.

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I signed the petition requesting that those who choose to leave, do so after paying their share of the National Debt.

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Getalife 12:59

Working on it. We’ll see. Long road.

Will know in a few years

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Working on it. We’ll see. Long road.

Will know in a few years

Waiting on those bootstraps to grow, are you?

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Looks like the Obama recession is on the way.

Damn!

And we were finally starting to recover from the $10Trillion Crime of the Century/George Hoover-Bush Depression…

(W)orst ever.

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“his *vote for revenge* tactics”

wow.

when you’re not taking things out of context, what do you do in your spare time?

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You know, while those reactionist Right Wing Nutcases are putting forth all these petitions, does anyone believe they have actually THOUGHT about it?

Georgia secedes. All military and Federal Government offices and officials leave. Businesses located IN Georgia now have to leave or be rebranded as foreign business. The Corps of Engineers opens the sluices at Lake Lanier as they leave since they won’t be there to open them when needed. People need a passport to get to Florida, Alabama, North Carolina South Carolina, ECT….. We, REAL AMERICANS, deny most favored Nation status to Georgia. We delay trade negotiations.

It’s really a knee jerk reaction that completely illustrates how bat crap stupid the Republicans have become.

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And Gen. Sherman – talk about your terrorists.

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Nunna – they needed cheap cotton to keep their textile businesses flourishing.

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Rome wasn’t built in a day comrades

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Jm

November 15th, 2012
12:55 pm

Getalife

I will. If the opportunity appears.
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Need some help? I’ll buy you luggage, pay your air fare, help you pack, drive you to the airport, just about anything. Just as long as you renounce your American citizenship and NEVER come back.

Let me know what you need. I know the Ambassador of Singapore. Maybe he can intercede for you there and help you get citizenship. I mean you’ll HAVE to have a passport before any Country will let you in and since you don’t want to be a US citizen and will be renouncing your citizenship you’ll need one from SOMEWHERE to leave………

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There is not a single person, there is nothing in their convictions, that merits the TEA party being called *terrorist.*

Well given that exactly one person here has used that particular term, why don’t you address that person directly?

that vulgar, sneering martinet in the White House

and yes, do go on and tell us about immoderate language, and how we should avoid it.

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Why do all of the transplanted Northerners live in Georgia if we’re so primitive and pathetic. We could probably take up a collection to get you moved back up to the rust-belt city of your choice.

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Nunna Yobinnes

November 15th, 2012
1:23 pm

Why do all of the transplanted Northerners live in Georgia if we’re so primitive and pathetic. We could probably take up a collection to get you moved back up to the rust-belt city of your choice.
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Can I have an AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ll help them pack too lol.

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Hmmm… what do you call someone who says “If our guy does not win the election, we might take to our second amendment remedies”. And please, that is not a Patriot.

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Fred – We’re speaking of Georgia. You know the state that voted for Romney, has a Republican governor and Republican controlled legislature, two Republican senators and Republican congressmen in every district that wasn’t gerrymandered for minority representation.
You’re the minority around here so Delta is ready when you are!!!

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A. Shrugged — “No need to secede, just pack up the loser libs ande ship them somewhere they’ll be happy like Cuba or NYC.”

I have a better idea. Since you and yours were outnumbered, how about we pack YOU up and send you somewhere with minimal gubmint influence, where you can be happy.

Your choices:

1) Somalia

2) Antarctic Coast

3) Bigazz Iceberg

Your choice, Punkin.

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Bigazz Iceberg

I want to send Atlas a Happy Housewarming card. What’s the postal code for Bigazz Iceberg?

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“one who nags”

d’oh! of course.

(reminds me of a terrible old joke whose punchline ends, “naw, she’s jes’ a little honkie.”)

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Everyone that has signed that petition must really trust the government. They want to succede from our government but has placed their name on a petition that will go to the government.

Confusing , isnt it?

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JHM – See 1:27 to Fred. Why don’t you move somewhere where you’ll be more comfortable cause I hate to break it to you but you’re living in a RED state!!! P.S. Please take geta with you.

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“WASHINGTON — Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) is heeding President Barack Obama’s election night call to “fix” the problems voters faced at the polls this year, by introducing legislation that would reward states for election reform.”

Ohio and Florida needs it the most.

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a LAPES drop

learn something new every day. Who says Jay’s blog ain’t edjumacational?

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SfD — “I want to send Atlas a Happy Housewarming card. What’s the postal code for Bigazz Iceberg?”

BR-549

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BF – sociopathic perhaps.

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I hate to break it to you but you’re living in a RED state!

GA appears to be next in line to turn blue, after North Carolina, actually. Seen this?

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/11/08/us/politics/fivethirtyeight-1108-2012ev/fivethirtyeight-1108-2012ev-blog480.png

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Why don’t you move somewhere where you’ll be more comfortable cause I hate to break it to you but you’re living in a RED state!!!

Red state ? You mean Georgia is Communist ?

Go figure!

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barking frog

November 15th, 2012
1:34 pm

Romney proved that pure capitalism is dead in America. His lifestyle was not acceptable to the American people. Are we now Sociocapitalists ?
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Show me ONE INSTANT OF TIME in this Country that we were EVER “pure capitalists. I know that talk radio and FOX news bandy that term around alot, but your post here show me thta you haven’t a clue as to what it means. So demonstrate your knowledge by point out when the United States of America was EVER a “pure capitalist” nation.

I’ll wait.

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dB/KAM: Did he play wheel of fortune?

I’ll admit to getting suckered into thinking that might be legit the first time I saw that…

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Fred

Holy crap, the look on Sajak’s face is priceless!

I was just riffing on the South park episode that was obviously influence by that real life occurrence on WOF.

I didn’t know that actually happened.

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Fred – are you really that stupid? Haven’t you heard of the Voting Act of 1965? Perhaps you’re not that stupid, just a misplaced yankee who hasn’t been around here very long. The Dems gerrymandered districts for minority representation when they controlled the legislature and the Court won’t allow the Reps to destroy those districts because of the Voting Act of 1965. short version is Georgia has a hsitory of racial barriers to voting. Go to the back of the class next to geta.

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Barking – “Romney proved that pure capitalism is dead in America. His lifestyle was not acceptable to the American people. Are we now Sociocapitalists ?”

It was acceptable to 59 million people. The election is over and there was a clear winner but some people act like Romney didn’t get one vote or that everyone who voted for Obama likes every single thing he does.

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How did a hypertext link for a commercial end up in my post where it says ‘Gov’?!!?

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Nunna Yobinnes

November 15th, 2012
1:41 pm

Hey Fred, don’t turn on a fellow lib. Cannibalism is disgusting.
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I realize that to you, anyone who isn’t a far right wing fanatical talk radio listening, FOX news watching, koolaide drinking, nutcase walking in lock step with those weirdos is a “lib, but I beg to differ. I’m an Independent. You would know if you weren’t so far to the right.

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Steve USA
we live in a country governed by the majority under the Constitution.

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No mention of R.E.M. making Athens famous?…

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Paul
staph meetings are for funguys ?

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Fred – Me too on Monds and Barr in ‘08 and Johnson this year for POTUS. I haven’t voted for a republican or Dem Presidential candidate ever. Probably should post under they both suck but that was taken.

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Paul — “Just occurred to me as I read the piece you linked to and I thought about how the extreme cons always seem to want to have a suspect group to blame their ills on.”

Your post was on target, IMO. Seems like they’re always looking for ‘the other’ to blame.

Back in the 19th Century, it was poor Irishmen and Scotsmen. Around the turn of the century, it was Poles and Italians. Middle of this century, it was the Yellow Peril. Nowadays it’s anyone brown or beige who happens to speak Spanish.

FWIW, I’ve actually been told — when out in public with my wife — to “drop the chalupa.”

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That isn’t real? What really happened?

Oh, I don’t know for certain, but think about it. “Clam -igger” is up there–you edit out the person asking for a “D” and instead, splice in some white guy who asks for an “N”, and Pat says “no N.” And hilarity ensues.

Obviously, if such a faux pas were to occur during a taping, they wouldn’t ever *air* the thing.

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I just get irritated by the vitriole[sic] spewed up by the so-called “progressives”.

Do you need one of us to cal 911 for you because you have been taken hostage, tied up and forced to read this blog against you will?

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Steve USA
the 59 million will bend to the will of the majority. the needs of the many outweigh
the needs of the few.

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No Kamchuk, one hopes (although I don’t know why) that instead of perpetuating the resentment and bitterness discussions might actually turn to constructive solutions. Naive I know.

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Oh well I’m out. Gotta play some more COD Black Ops II. (I know I’ve posted it before, but I love it lol).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wIZp_E2CxQ

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Gots to leave this damn time-suck.

Later, maybe, if Jay’s got something new for us. Don’t go joining the Judean People’s Front while I’m away.

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This “secession” petetition is a satirical and sarcastic response by liberals to conservative petitions arleady filed. This is not a spontaneous idea: liberals in Austin, TX already pulled this stunt.

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Fred

Occurred to me the other week that there’s likely a good-sized number of our fellow bloggers who have one monitor set up for this blog and the other screen set up for Halo 4 or Black Ops.

Didn’t think of you in that context, though. Never heard you make noises like ‘hooah’ or tell people you’re going out on patrol…

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going out on patrol

Sounds like something that hookers charge extra for.

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Fred — “Obviously, if such a faux pas were to occur during a taping, they wouldn’t ever *air* the thing.”

Seems like Family Guy did a couple of gags along this line years ago.

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O.K. you guys……get ready….set……leave. But first as you quietly leave….for you see the land has not part in this….only nut job people, leave someone your map of “your” land….that way the Cherokee,Creek, Choctaw,Chickasaw and more Federaly Recognized Nations can move back…!!!!!
Yes…………………this WILL Work………………How soon are ya leaving?
Hurry……………………..time’s a’wasting……oh by the way………the Nations are watching….so more the merrier.We do hope alot of folks in alot of states get on with this moving out…….HURRY !!!!!!!!!!!
The land we call Turtle Island has not all been destoyed yet………..

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Petraeus SHEETS!

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Fred

Got an Atari, I think, with Space Invaders, went home for lunch, neighbor had the day off, asked him if he wanted to play on lunch our, Mrs. Paul walked in and asked if I was going back to work. I said, ‘yes, after lunch.’ She said ‘it’s 2:30.”

That was my first reality check.

Never got into the other games with what I thought were basically the characters running and jumping. Did get hooked on a WWII submarine game on my Apple II GS, though. Then I looked at a modern sub game and it was like going thru the Submarine Officer Qualification School. It didn’t seem fun, too much like work.

Now I have this as one black hole addiction, and one addictions quite enough for me, thank you very much!

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If you are impressed by the number of goobers signing secession petitions, remember that 6 million people in this country think they have been abducted by aliens.

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Jay have to disagree. Much of the money to build Hartsfield was federal- from the tax on tickets, jet fuel, etc. The COA contributed though.

That brings me to: if they succeed the Feds will keep the military bases, Interstate and national defense highways, veterans admin hospitals,CDC, Lake Lanier, the Savannah Port….

Georgia is beginning to look like Swiss cheese!

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…just pack up the loser libs…

Says the guy who just got humiliated nine days ago.

For the third time in four elections.

For the REAL loser, look in the mirror. And shrug…

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I must add to my comment above. I have paid taxes for 45 years. I do not live off of the government. I do not need government assistance. Most of my friends are Democrats. They are all people who have worked all of their lives. : ) : )

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It’s time for another civil war to overthrow this govt.

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Fred
Romney was the personification of pure capitalism which is the ideology of the Randians
and the great white hope of the anti Obama social programs and may still exist as an
ideal in their minds but as a platform for politics it died with his defeat.

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Liberia has offered a haven to all Georgians who would rather reside in a country where hard work and simple living are the basis of the founding of their country. Just remember who will be expected to work the fields this time around.

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USinUK @ 11:18

On that we can agree.

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FTLOG, folks, it is secede. The other word means to have success! Now, they might want to succeed at seceding?

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Jam vet,

What are you going along about ? Again Obama won by 2 million votes of 112 million cast.

Both parties have problems and you know it. Once people become more successful the less they demand higher taxes, because the money is taken from them. The very design of the democratic platform would fail the party if it was a true goal. Since the party proclaims itself to be for the little people, while at the same time being led by hundreds of the very rich, if you accomplished your stated goals of being there for the poor, you would run out of constituents given every policy you say you want. Why because everyone would be financially comfortable and your tax argument would fail. You Therefore are living on the class divide. By nature that will start falling apart for you as you accomplish your goals.

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So Georgia can leave the US AND get rid of Atlanta? Wow, count me in! That is a win-win if I have ever heard one. Atlanta would look like Detroit in a few months without the state and good people of North Fulton funding them. Atlanta is run by, and inhibited by, complete morons and losers.

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Yes please! Getting rid of Atlanta would be a huge step up for Georgia.As usual, the narrow minded libs are incapable of understanding anything that doesn’t serve the hive first and foremost. Individual liberty escapes them entirely. Obama was elected because there were enough people that believe it is OK for the government to steal from one individual and give it to another.

Sorry, theft is theft, even by the government. There are quite a few of us that are tired of the constant hand into our pockets to take our earnings so the government/politicians can buy more votes next time around.

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Like I tell my friends….when you leave metro Atlanta your in Georgia…not a good thing! Lets give the secessionists Carlton…heck, they would love that!

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Lets give the secessionists Carlton…

You mean the Carlton that is just east of Elberton? That Carlton?

Last time I drove through there it was deader’n Canasta.

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Feel free to head on back up to the rust-belt. We’ll help you pack.

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Mama, what are you going along about ?

Again Romney got crushed by losing 336 votes out of 538.

A 62% to 38% drubbing.

Both parties have problems and you know it.

Redact to read both suck horribly and should be dismantled. Most Americans no long see them as helpful.

Since the party proclaims itself to be for the little people…

In this day and age???!!! Only fools believe that.

The same way that only fools believe Republicans are conservatives.

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Jessica Ware

I couldn’t agree more. That is all I have to say.

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This bizarre, self-destructive penchant of the right wing is finally paying dividends…

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I think all you liberal loving Commies inside the perimeter need to have a serious reality check. Are you really okay with this government’s spending and putting the bill on our future generations? Do you really want to see your children and grandchildren suffer because you were too lazy, ignorant or greedy to see the problem and look for a solution? I guess it’s not an issue if you intend on aborting all your kids anyways in the typical Democrat fashion. And you people talk about treason? You folks need to wake up and smell something besides Obama’s crusty day old underwear. The fact that people are talking of secession means nothing more than the government is failing in its duties to the people.

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@Drudge give us Atlanta, THEN secede. OK? Imagine how wonderful it’ll be! No taxation, no work place regulation, no environmental protection, no minimum wage, no public education, no child labor laws, no public spending on infrastructure, no public spending at all. No “entitlements,” no food stamps, no welfare, no social security, no Medicare. Life begins at conception, so no hormonal birth control, no iuds, no legal abortion. I assume gays will be shot or imprisoned, so they’ll probably want out. Hand us all of those who wish to leave, including the city of Atlanta, then proceed. Thank you SO much

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@ nemesis
wow…I am soo happy you are an angry Republican….it would sicken me to think we were on the same side of any issues at all (and we aren’t)…
“Commies,lazy, ignorant, greedy,suffer, aborting all your kids, treason” – you have a way with words!

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Idiots. both the secessionists and the folks in washington hell bent on taking this country the socialist route.

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What a bunch of sore losers!

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Sad state of affairs – we went from our Grandparents ‘Greatest generation’ who would do anything and everything for the country they loved to the current ‘laziest generation’ who want their country to do anything and everything for them.

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Get Real

November 15th, 2012
4:01 pm
Your party won, my party lost, I accetp it, and I will hug my elephant and you can kiss your a$$.

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@dgd, ever heard of the GI Bill of 1944? Look it up. Find out what the federal government did for the “Greatest Generation” and the creation of the American middle class. Then come back and comment.

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Then they attack attack attack the individual and not the idea.

A ploy conceived and perfected by a generation of talk-radio.

It’s always different when it’s your ox being gored, ain’t it?

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@Big Daddy

And I am happy that you’re a bedwetting liberal. It would delight me if we were on the same side of any issue; that way you would be on the correct side. I hate to disappoint but I do not have a political affiliation as I do not believe in altering my beliefs to acommodate for whoever is running for office. I vote and live my life by my own conscience, and my conscience tells me that burdening future generations for a sense of entitlement that we refuse to pay for is immoral. But as you so stated we are not on the same side of these issues, so it is my presumption that you approve of this spending. With a name like Big Daddy I assume you have children. Go home tonight, look your kids in the eye and tell them with sincerity that you are perfectly okay with burdening them and their children with heavy tax debts so you can have free “hell”thcare and entitlements. Tell them they have to pay for it since we adults are either too lazy or ignorant to fix the problems ourselves. If you can do that and still sleep peacefully then I will have my proof that liberals have no conscience.

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Please sign the succession petition with your full name and address. I’d love to know who not to every hire for working for my US company. Traitors and Revolutionaries.

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Michael – Just like John Hancock, et al.

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No doubt it would not matter to these supporters that the people of Athens, Macon, Decatur or other may not want to be annexed but would rather be free. This is all about power. The city of Atlanta is a parasite on the state (not the businesses, not the productive citizens, but the government itself), and they know that in a free Georgia, they are not going to be able to leach off the Feds like they do today and wield that power against the rest of the state.

It is amazing watching the response of all these folks on this issue. A whole lot of people just want some freedom. The rest are responding for a variety of reasons, but in my heart I think its mostly because someone (thousands actually) have finally taken the step of saying just how crappy this country actually is (and frankly, had Bush put up a similar website, this would have been going on under him too). Pretending that everything is hunky dorey in this country or that we all want to stay together in this host-parasite relationship is delusional. Sadly of course is that the root cause is govenrment, not the general public. We work, we engage in business transactions and generally get along. It is the power hungry that run our government that create the relationships that set us upon each other (black/white, rich/middle/poor, tax payers/tax takers, etc).

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If the City of Atlanta seceeds does that mean they wll take all the fat moochers with EBT and cell phones and pants draped around their knees with them? Is so, please, please do it. Been to Underground lately, folks? Not surprised. Yes, they’ve absolutely ruined that, too. Take ‘em all I say. SCREW ATL and I’ve lived here all my life. And while you’re at it tear down Marta and take that crap wagon with you and the Street Car Named Desire which NOBODY DESIRES that they are building from MLK monument (which nobody goes too because the neighborhood is a disgrace) to Centennial Park and take that with you and use you stinking EBT cards and Obama phones to get the word out.

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The reality is that this country has always been about balancing what is best for the individual with what is best for everyone as a whole. It’s never been about unbridled capitalism, just like it’s never been about pure socialism. We’ve always been in between, tweaking here and tweaking there.

I wish some of the people who get so fired up about calling Obama a socialist just b/c he wants health care reform would get just as fired up about the overextension of our national defense and the Big Brother state we’re heading towards – much of which was really ramped up by the last republican regime.

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I would like to make a similar recommendation to our yankee carpet bagger friends. Head on back up North. Don’t let the door hit you in the backside.

So much for the concept of southern hospitality.

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To some bad-spelling posters on both sides: it is “secession” not “succession”.

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Kam – You can check with Rhea about hospitality. Talk about bigots. Wow.

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Corporations have run this country for the last 30-35 years. Anyone who refuses to believe that needs to wake up and do some serious research.

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so you, not say you.

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“Yeeeeee haaaa! Stars and bars forever!” <—That would be the US flag.

I believe the confederate flag is known as St. Andrews Cross.

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I believe the confederate flag is known as St. Andrews Cross.

I believe that was just the battle flag.

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Heckuva choice, ain’t it? Invaded by Yankees or invaded by Chinese, Russians, et al.

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@Nunna . . . At least the yankees aren’t shooting at us.

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You know, slavery was an absolutely horrible thing, and I am glad that it has been done away with. Having said that though, it makes one nauseous to hear the Northerners tell us that their motives were so pure, and strictly to free the slaves. The North’s motivation was strictly economic. Anyone care to explain why the North would not allow black soldiers to fight alongside white soldiers?

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i support the secession; i just have one thing to say tht means anything. prepare for war if we secede it will come

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The racism of yesteryear has come full circle in our county. The entire world embraced our choice of a black President four years ago and most nations of the world still support him. The fringe elements of Republican sect have crept through into the mainstream once again with conservative mouthpieces planting the seeds of hate. The only doubt lies here at home rooting from bigotry. Watch the white hands paint Obama in Blackface at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/10/bamboozling-obama.html

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Can someone here explain why the administration puts forth so much concern about rising healthcare costs, but yet among the proposals of the new ACA is to increase the medical deduction threshhold from 7.5% to 10%? I am just totally bewildered by this. How in the world is that helping the problem?

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@dgd The point is, the bill, created by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, worked. Some credit it with creating the lasting middle class in the US. That means, of course, that instead of lifting themselves by their individualistic bootstraps, the greatest generation relied on federal subsidies and federal aid to achieve the standard of living that made the US the envy of the world.

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@Dharma, was thinking about that, I feel like a Bull Moose, I’m ready and would be DEEEELIGHTED!

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Secession means staying where one is, not leaving the land behind. So there is not a large enough plane to haul the land of the state of Georgia away from the continent, for all the sky-milers who want to donate. And since, as one person noted, every single state has secessioners, those who say
“let them go” must be saying “let all those lands go,” in which case I suppose, they will not have land beneath their own feet? So, if you say “good riddance” to every state-land in America, then YOU will be needing your sky miles, right?
The subject “might” be ridiculous, but the comments here are more so. Apparently some people don’t know what secession means in the first place: it means leaving the union-of-states, not leaving the states.
Now that this term is defined for you on both sides, carry on.

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Dharma – Definitely agree you on the need for a third party.

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The banter of secession from the Union is ridiculous. If you recall, we fought a war over this issue from 1861 to 1865. However, consider the following as a viable constitutional alternative to unravelling the status quo: At present, the U.S. has several Territories to include Guam, Puerto Rico, CNMI, USVI and American Samoa. The residents are U.S. citizens and they do not pay federal income tax. However, as collective dependents of the U.S., they receive billions of dollars each year in goodies to include food stamps, HUD housing, subsidized U.S. Postal Service etc., from Uncle Sam. In exchange, they are not allowed to vote in the Presidential election and they do not have U.S. Senators. However, each territory is allowed one non-voting representative in the U.S. House of Representatives. This person is selected by the territorial Governor. What if the red states decided that they no longer want to be states and opted to reverting back to being U.S. Territories? The blue states would get the luxury of supporting these territories with goodies through their taxes. Since the residents of blue states claim to have a monopoly on compassion, they shouldn’t have a problem with their financial support of the territories. Thus, the argument is that the red states aren’t seceding from the Union, they are opting to becoming dependent’s of the Union. Problem solved. Everyone is happy.

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I think with the state of our country and the decline of “real” American values make people want to leave the US. Obama is forcing his agenda down our throats and forcing us to pay for things we don’t believe in. The people that are decent, moral people that are willing to work hard and are not always looking to the Government to give them everything and to solve their problems don’t like the way our country is going. When Obama has ruined everything good, those who voted for him will be whining, but will have no one to blame but themselves.

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What if:
There is some faction that is not of our citizenry, neither red nor blue, who has encouraged and fanned the flames of political division beyond ordinary election ferver, just to keep the US extremely polarized and divided? If we remain so divided within that we see one another as war-enemies rather than as people with differing points of view, doesn’t that help the enemies without?
Don’t light a fire until you know who is fanning the flames.
Someone once opined, “I have seen the enemy, and it is us.”
Don’t be the enemy of your own.

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SUSAN MOORE – “Secession = Treason and they should be shot. If you want to go old school.”

True or False: The American Revolution was considered by Great Britain to be “Treason”. …..by the way, the answer is TRUE

“I only regret that I have but one life to give for my country.” – Nathan Hale (was hung, not shot)

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This is great — I’m fot it.

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Common Sense? You like to fan flames?
If not, you might need to explain that calling on liberals to get their guns is funny to you because liberals keep voting against having guns for the general public.
You seem assume that people who don’t want people to have guns don’t have guns.
Is this assumption valid, given that people who are liberals also don’t generally vote for capital punishment, but have no hesitation in calling for shooting people whose rhetoric disagrees with
theirs?

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Ajaxx, You are thinking. More than most here who are either muckraking, reacting emotionally, or fanning flames.
However, I doubt that any red state would be willing to give up their right to have a voice in government, so…problem not solved.

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@Rhea
The greatest generation was not farsighted enough to realize that all those federal subsidies and federal aid programs would bite their kids and grandkids later on, sending us toward the “cliff.” More of same won’t work, the till is empty. And these days, federal subsidies and federal aid is no longer coming from the federal government: it is now coming from BORROWED MONEY that we can’t pay back. So the poor ol greatest generation took all the goodies and left us with all the bills.

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Im 14 and im old enough to know we shouldnt have to deal with the next 4 years. So for everyone thay wants to kill secenoinist then shoot me know and say on my grave i was the kid that stood against socialism

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Nunna- Lincoln wrote the Emancipation Proclamation and stuck it in his night stand drawer for several months, because he did not want the north to feel the war was being waged in order to free slaves. That is one of the largest Civil War Myths being taught in schools (the north fighting to free slaves). After the Emancipation Proclamation many northern soldiers still fraught very hard, but were angered by the thought that they were fighting to end slavery. And to believe the south was fighting to preserve it was another great myth. Most slave owners never fought, and most southern soldiers were not advocates of slavery, many even felt that slavery was an oppressive institution to them due to lack of economic development. They were angered to fight for the rich plantation owners right to keep slaves. Not sure why anyone would think that the division of country has anything to do with slavery.

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Mike you are stupid. The dumb conservatives are to greedy and to selfish to make a nation work so I would love to see your experiment tried. If the civil war wasn’t about slavery then somebody please tell me what it was about. That’s what people want now, maybe not like it used to be, but the average white man van not stand to think an African American is there equal and they definitely hate beeing ruled by one.

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Such sore losers…but I can understand their emotions. Their leader (Romney) is a sore loser also…a silly little crybaby…making up those stupid reasons why Americans rejected his silliness. Oh, it must be that President Obama is sending personal checks to all of the voters…or President Obama is giving out extra food stamps to his supporters….or…President Obama promised a New Cadillac to all of the American Voters…..every excuse that can be verbalized EXCEPT the one that says…’Maybe I’m just a weird looking stiff-necked jerk whom the American Peoples REJECTED!’ So crybabies, let me help you pack and get out. By the way, take Neal Bortz with you! He PROMISED TO LEAVE WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA RETURNS FOR HIS SECOND TERM! Please LEAVE!…or is it too lucrative for you now, after all you are poised to have four more years of your NASTY JADED VERBIAGE!

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got the uhaul truck today and will freely drive it to the house of anyone who wants to leave the usa and help them pack and haul their shyte today.

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I can see why so many are upset after the elections. There is the sense that government is not responsive to our real needs and desires.
But there are 3 reasons why secession won’t work.
1. The first is because it will NOT resolve the problem.
2. The second reason is the fact that a state is not a nation.
3. The third reason is that most people do not identify with a state as they do with the nation.
Like it or not, we Americans identify with America because it is our native land with a common history and culture. We are proud to be American.
Secession is a superficial, knee-jerk, dead-end reaction that masks the real problem. The real solution is to identify and address the root cause and deeper solution to our problems, which is done by the author John Horvat II in his article A Case Against Secession at http://www.ReturnToOrder.org

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They freed slaves for extra votes in 2012…lol…ask Obama…minority votes were more than Caucasians…

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Petition “Peacefully withdraw the District of Colombia from the Union…” needs 75 signatures to reach the “Public” threshold. This is for any US Citizen, of any State. Remove the head from the body, or remove the body from the head… Please sign and promote if you agree.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-withdraw-district-colombia-union-allow-several-states-live-peace-and-prosperity/WRxrCmkD

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It’s time for those that sign up , to secede from the union, be granted quick access to flights from the country, to an isolated island in the pacific, where there is no materials to build homes, food stores, protection from storms. They do not deserve the freedom we have in the states, this country provides. Most people in these states they wish to secede from, do not agree with the signers of the call to secede. I consider these people as traitors to their god given country! In some extremist countries, people like this would be jailed,or shot on sight. Beware of your consequences they might just be given, only to each individual.,

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