Petraeus: Resignation has nothing to do with Benghazi
In off-camera and apparently rather poignant conversations with Kyra Phillips of CNN and Headline News, David Petraeus has made it clear that his resignation as CIA director has everything to do with his own personal failings, and nothing whatsoever to do with the tragedy in Benghazi and its aftermath:
As Phillips recounted the conversations:
“He has said this has nothing to do with Benghazi and he wants to testify. He will testify. He has maintained to me all along this was a personal failing, Robin, which, as I said, to me was quite stunning and to many other people. He’s not the type of person that I’ve ever known to fail at anything, knowing [him] as long as I have over the years. And so he has made it very clear that this was about an extramarital affair and not over classified information or Benghazi.”
Of course, there is no expectation that such statements will quell the conspiracy theorists. The hunger to believe overwhelms rationality for some. But there it is nonetheless.
– Jay Bookman
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Gale
November 15th, 2012
1:57 pm
The fans of the Tea Party will be SO disappointed.
indigo
November 15th, 2012
2:03 pm
I doubt his resignation had anything to do with Benghazi. However, in the unlikely event this is incorrect, I doubt he would ever publicly admit it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 15th, 2012
2:06 pm
The deranged meme of the day will be: He’s been forced/bribed to say that.
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
2:08 pm
“Robin” ?? Who’s Robin?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
2:11 pm
“Robin” ?? Who’s Robin?
As Jay referenced CNN Headline News, one may safely assume it is Robin Meade.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
2:12 pm
After skimming this interview, I’ll re-state my condolences to the General’s family.
It is difficult enough to endure a crisis like this in private; I cannot imagine what it’d be like to have it aired in public.
the cat
November 15th, 2012
2:13 pm
I am convinced his lover is a double agent.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
2:15 pm
Benghazi….
Would that be the same Benghazi that McCain got his knickers twisted up about?
The same Benghazi that was the subject of a closed door hearing on the hill today by the committee Mr. Mc Cain sits on?
That Senator McCain did not bother to attend?
He was making the press rounds…..
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
2:15 pm
‘I am convinced his lover is a double agent.’
Not a very good one then…(agent, that it…)
Regnad Kcin
November 15th, 2012
2:16 pm
After a week-long hiatus, Fox News is full of Benghazi stories again. Go figure.
the cat
November 15th, 2012
2:17 pm
LHU-I don’t know, they were together for close to 5 years weren’t they? That is a lot of pillow talk.
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
2:17 pm
I’ll re-state my condolences to the General’s family.
And to Ms. Broadwell’s ??
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
2:17 pm
t. cat — “I am convinced his lover is a double agent.”
As it turns out, she’s actually a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army Reserve.
Double agent or not, I can’t say, but there’s some evidence that she plays kind of fast and loose in her handling of classified material.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
2:20 pm
And to Ms. Broadwell’s ??
Yes, of course. (Two kids and a husband on that side of things, as well, I see.)
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
2:20 pm
Oh, thanks Kam, The only stars I know from CNN are the Wolfman and Larry King.
After a week-long hiatus, Fox News is full of Benghazi stories again. Go figure.
Isn’t Congress holding some kind of hearings about it? Might be why it’s “In the news.”
gogators
November 15th, 2012
2:20 pm
he cheated on his wife and everything he says is true?
straitroad
November 15th, 2012
2:21 pm
How about obama’s sexist rant about Susan Rice? Are we to treat women in high places differently when the heat is on? Good grief, isn’t she a big girl who can take up for herself?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
2:21 pm
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
2:17 pm
I’ll re-state my condolences to the General’s family.
And to Ms. Broadwell’s ??
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.
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To both of their families….
But not the cheaters…..no condolences….they played, now they pay.
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
2:22 pm
me too, stands. Sad for all involved except for Peaches and The Hussie.
straitroad
November 15th, 2012
2:22 pm
Sure Jay, we should believe a dishonest person….
Brosephus™
November 15th, 2012
2:22 pm
I pray for all who are personally affected by this. Nobody’s family should have to endure their dirty laundry being paraded all through the media as some kind entertainment. That’s all I have to say about this, and that’s all I have to contribute to this topic.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
2:22 pm
straitroad
November 15th, 2012
2:21 pm
How about obama’s sexist rant about Susan Rice? Are we to treat women in high places differently when the heat is on? Good grief, isn’t she a big girl who can take up for herself?
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.
.
Yep.
But a good leader stands up for his peeps.
Don’t you?
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
2:23 pm
GG and gh thinking alike. Ohhhhhhhh nooooooooooo! LOL!
fedup
November 15th, 2012
2:23 pm
Susan Rice’s fault…..MaCain
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
2:23 pm
Mrs. Broadwell and Gen Patraeus deserve their shame…they earned it.
Their spouses and families did not deserve to be crapped on and humiliated.
Regnad Kcin
November 15th, 2012
2:24 pm
“How about obama’s sexist rant about Susan Rice? Are we to treat women in high places differently when the heat is on? Good grief, isn’t she a big girl who can take up for herself?”
straitroad – can you provide the quote you consider sexist, please?
Thank you.
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
2:25 pm
‘Sure Jay, we should believe a dishonest person….’
Well, McCain has his own skeletons too. Obama has been faithful, so let’s believe him…
Paul
November 15th, 2012
2:25 pm
Petraeus had a lapse and is trying to make restitution and do the honorable thing.
And the patriotic Right wants to impugn him with more dishonor.
All because they still hate Obama and “The hunger to believe overwhelms rationality for some. “
Regnad Kcin
November 15th, 2012
2:26 pm
“Sure Jay, we should believe a dishonest person….”
That’s right, because when a person does one thing wrong, everything they say or do is wrong forever, right?
willie lynch
November 15th, 2012
2:27 pm
So many people looking for a Benghazi conspiracy when they still believe Oswald and the magic bullet theory. Fascinating.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 15th, 2012
2:31 pm
Newt says never believe a dishonest person.
Cain says never believe a dishonest person.
Ryan says never believe a dishonest person.
Mitt says never believe a dishonest person.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
2:31 pm
“‘Sure Jay, we should believe a dishonest person….’”
So it follows straitroad doesn’t believe anyone.
Even himself.
John Konop
November 15th, 2012
2:32 pm
The GOP is falling into same trap they did in the election of chasing their tale in an echo chamber. The party needs to focus on relevant core issues , not “Days of our Life” soap opera conspiracies. We have real issues that both sides need to get it together on ie budget, Middle East, health care……… The GOP needs some adult leadership ASAP! Our country needs a rational balance between both parties. Not the Jerry Springer show……………
deegee
November 15th, 2012
2:33 pm
I heard a comment last week – “He wouldn’t be the first narcissistic 4 star general.” I wouldn’t believe a word Petraeus says. If his judgement is so flawed that he couldn’t resist the temptation to get romantically involved with a predator, then he isn’t fit to lead a den of cub scouts.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
2:33 pm
Godless heathen
I suspect it is because you are neither godless or a heathen….
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
2:33 pm
Their spouses and families did not deserve to be crapped on and humiliated.
I might humbly suggest that their families might benefit if we withheld *some* of our high-and-mighty pronouncements about what dreadful human beings these unfaithful spouses must be.
This is someone’s dad, someone’s mom, y’know?
(and before someone gets on my case for being a hypocrite for having made my share of caustic characterizations about public figures in the past, who also are dads and moms, uncles and aunts, brothers and sisters and whatnot? Go ahead. I’ve probably earned it.)
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
2:35 pm
The General is doing the correct thing by voluntarily testifying but there’s justifiable concern with his comments shortly after 9-11 to congress supporting the administrations position that the attack was a result of an anti-Islamic video that grew out of hand when facts that he should have been aware of at the time of his testimony as CIA director dispelled that version. Hopefully for his own credibility he’ll clear that up but that still won’t clear the Obama administration of attempted cover up or inexcusable incompetence.
Regnad Kcin
November 15th, 2012
2:35 pm
I wonder if the comments of Jindal, et.al., giving people permission to be “conservative” without being “stupid,” will manifest in lower conservative support for positions like McCain’s.
fedup
November 15th, 2012
2:35 pm
“Sure Jay, we should believe a dishonest person….”
Robme said Jeep is shutting down US plant and moving it to China. Yet idiots voted for him.
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
2:38 pm
Not that this will ever be confirmed since he is testifying in private. To change his story on Benghazi would be to admit perjury.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
2:38 pm
Limbaugh said……
Now the General will have to run for President as a democrat.
Ain’t that a knee-slapper.
He’ll never run now.
Regnad Kcin
November 15th, 2012
2:38 pm
“Robme said Jeep is shutting down US plant and moving it to China”
I suspect this was the nail in the coffin for Romney, as far as Ohio goes. He might as well have ended the commercial with “I’m Mitt Romney, and I approve this message, because you’re so stupid, you’ll believe it.”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
Del/Recon: Hopefully for his own credibility he’ll clear that up but that still won’t clear the Obama administration of attempted cover up or inexcusable incompetence
So the only way he can be credible for you is to testify as to your preconceived perceptions and lack of reality…. I think Bobby Jindal is looking to have a talk with you.
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
2:41 pm
Paul
November 15th, 2012
2:25 pm
“The hunger to believe overwhelms rationality for some. “
Holds true for Dems and Reps alike. Just sayin…
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
2:41 pm
So the only way he can be credible for you is to testify as to your preconceived perceptions and lack of reality….
Nope, he has to explain his testimony that should be clear enough even for you to comprehend.
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
2:42 pm
‘I think Bobby Jindal is looking to have a talk with you. ‘
That poor man is gonna be busier than a pair of jumper cables at a redneck funeral…
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
2:35 pm
The General is doing the correct thing by voluntarily testifying but there’s justifiable concern with his comments shortly after 9-11 to congress supporting the administrations position that the attack was a result of an anti-Islamic video
There you go with those dang facts again!
southpaw
November 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
“…he wants to testify. He will testify.”
The sooner the better. That will do more than anything else to quiet the cover-up talk.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
Recon — “that still won’t clear the Obama administration of attempted cover up or inexcusable incompetence.”
Are those chargeable offenses or simply value judgments?
jconservative
November 15th, 2012
2:45 pm
Well I Yahooed the name Ben Gazi and got this:
Ben Gazi is a local Turkish man who works for,,,,,,, as foreman…..
So, ………………………..
St Simons
November 15th, 2012
2:46 pm
Don’t be deterred by this, cons. Bring the cra-zeee
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
2:48 pm
SSI — “Bring the cra-zeee”
Boogidy boogidy boogidy.
BTW, I agree with your assessment on PPP being the most accurate pollster this go-round. And electoral-vote.com concurs.
oops
November 15th, 2012
2:48 pm
cover up!
Paul
November 15th, 2012
2:49 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
Personally, I don’t find Petraeus credible. Guy’s never even been in a foxhole, don’tcha’ know?
New jobless claims... Forward???
November 15th, 2012
2:49 pm
In the week ending November 10, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 439,000, an increase of 78,000 from the previous week’s revised figure of 361,000. The 4-week moving average was 383,750, an increase of 11,750 from the previous week’s revised average of 372,000.
Some of the new claims, especially in New Jersey, were due to Hurricane Sandy–but these were offset by a decline in claims filed in New York. The highest numbers of new filings came from Pennsylvania and Ohio, where there were thousands of layoffs in the construction, manufacturing, and automobile industries.
Both states had been targeted by the presidential campaigns. President Obama highlighted his record of job creation in Ohio in particular, focusing on the automobile industry. The state reported 6,450 new jobless claims in the week after the election–second-highest after Pennsylvania, which recorded 7,766 new claims.
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
2:50 pm
First cons were apocalyptic that Patraeus had resigned and wasn’t going to testify, speculating that this was conveniently part of a coverup…now that he is testifying they say, ‘ we can’t trust what he says.’
Ya’ll are priceless…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
2:50 pm
Paul — “Personally, I don’t find Petraeus credible. Guy’s never even been in a foxhole, don’tcha’ know?”
I *love* the way you just crapped on the entire Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard.
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
2:51 pm
I suspect it is because you are neither godless or a heathen….
And I suspect that you are not really Godzilla, either.
Scooter
November 15th, 2012
2:52 pm
Pretty sure his wife now thinks he is “General Betray Us”.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
2:52 pm
LHU — “That poor man is gonna be busier than a pair of jumper cables at a redneck funeral…”
By way of establishing my hillbilly cred, we had to jumpstart the hearse at one of my aunts’ funerals long about 10 years ago.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 15th, 2012
2:53 pm
Recon: Nope, he has to explain his testimony that should be clear enough even for you to comprehend.
I am sure that he will. What I cannot promise is that I can dumb it down enough for you to comprehend.
Logical Dude
November 15th, 2012
2:53 pm
If you’re gonna lose your job anyway. . . I really am waiting for a politician to say:
“Yes, I DID have sex with that woman. We both had a great time, and enjoyed the heck out of it. We kept at it because it was fun and gave us both what we wanted.
Both of our families knew about this because we are honest about it to ourselves and our families. [I know, I know, this is the part that never happens - LD]. They are not as hurt as you expect, and have accepted that we are human with human desires.
So, it’s hard to say this in public, mostly because we wanted to be discreet and not cause drama. But once the media dogs get onto something, they won’t let go until they get their bite. So, media, here is your media bite. HUMANS LIKE SEX.”
Alas, I still have not heard any politician say this.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
2:53 pm
Just goin’ by what i read here, JHM –
Lord Help Us
BTW – is ‘priceless’ like “has no value’?
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
2:54 pm
The General has made his bed, let him sleep in it but he should go on record
about the failure to inform his superior of conditions in Benghazi or that he did
inform his superior and then he should be allowed to go in peace.
Regnad Kcin
November 15th, 2012
2:55 pm
“BTW – is ‘priceless’ like “has no value’?”
Dr. Nick – “Inflammable means flammable? What a country!”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
2:57 pm
Ruh, roh.
The Justice Department announced Thursday that it had charged BP with felony manslaughter for the deaths of 11 people who were killed when the Deepwater Horizon oil rig blew out, sending nearly 5 million barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico in 2010.
Attorney General Eric Holder said that federal grand juries had also indicted the two highest- ranking BP supervisors on the Deepwater Horizon rig with 23 counts of criminal wrongdoing, including manslaughter. Holder also announced the indictment of BP’s incident commander with lying to and hiding information from Congress.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
2:57 pm
Bookman: “Of course, there is no expectation that such statements will quell the conspiracy theorists. The hunger to believe overwhelms rationality for some. But there it is nonetheless.”
Speaking of “rationality”:
“The premise of the entire debate is false, because the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was not an act of terror.” (Jay Bookman 10/17/12)
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/17/on-benghazi-the-debate-and-acts-of-terror/
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
2:57 pm
Paul — “Just goin’ by what i read here, JHM – ”
FWIW, *any* officer is supposed to be forthright and trustworthy. Sure, some will be *much* better field commanders than others; some officers are tactically proficient and others are exceptional administrators — but the common thread is supposed to be a high level of character, intelligence and loyalty.
I’ve always found the best assessment of an officer to come from his or her troops. Ask them, ‘would you go to war with Captain/Colonel/General Hufflepuff’ and you’ll be able to determine that officer’s worth from the collective responses of the troops under his or her command.
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
2:58 pm
Paul,JHM
Personally I consider Broadwell a fox.
Krystal'sBalls
November 15th, 2012
2:58 pm
So many people are hysterical about the Black guy in the White House, when it’s the White folks that we are finding more and more at various levels are the circus with their dark, sordid dealings. We are going to find some real crazy stuff before it’s all done with about that whole circle. The fact that those two broads are connected in the way that they are on military installations and have the access they do to these officials stinks to high heaven, or holy hell depending on your preference. I say that really in a playful manner, but it does bear worth mentioning.
the cat
November 15th, 2012
2:59 pm
I am just surprised the Waffle House CEO’s affair isn’t getting this much attention. Did anyone see the creep with his wife on the news last night? Makes one wonder how many zeroes are in the check he is writing her to be the sweet wife still holding hands and supporting her lying, cheating scum bag of a husband.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 15th, 2012
3:01 pm
Senior Digits, you still ducking my question in a prior thread? Have you personally signed any petition for any part of this country to secede from the US?
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
3:02 pm
So, media, here is your media bite.
Seen this, perchance?
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
3:02 pm
‘BTW – is ‘priceless’ like “has no value’?’
Oh, it has value. Usually, one has to go to a Tractor pull for this much entertainment…
Jay
November 15th, 2012
3:03 pm
Time Mag reporting that Petraeus had to talk Broadwell out of running for US Senate in North Carolina.
Hollywould
November 15th, 2012
3:04 pm
@the cat…. I saw that last nite and was stunned to see how they were laughing and smiling. How about when he called himself “A dumbazz” and she said she agreed laughing like it was funny. WOW
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
3:05 pm
SURPRISE: Highest number of new jobless claims — OH, PA…
drudgey/breitbart spam.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
3:05 pm
I am just surprised the Waffle House CEO’s affair isn’t getting this much attention.
well, consider what that’s up against.
any other month, it mighta been a contendah.
St Simons
November 15th, 2012
3:06 pm
yeah, Unskewedpolls said we are under-sampling teabonics on this blog
need.mo.cra-zeee
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
3:06 pm
DowninAlbany,
Facts that the left strangely wish’s to ignore. You would think as Americans they would be concerned with other Americans murdered while serving our country. Sadly though some of them fail to see it that way.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
3:07 pm
Godless heathen
Right you are!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
3:08 pm
DENNY’S to charge 5% ‘Obamacare surcharge’ and cut employee hours…
Another reason not to go to yet another crappy place.
Oh, and drudgey spam.
St Simons
November 15th, 2012
3:09 pm
‘The Justice Dept announced Thursday that it had charged BP with
felony manslaughter for…..’
Corporations are people, my friend
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 15th, 2012
3:10 pm
Well, I don’t know about you but I wouldn’t beleive nothing this Kyra Philips says. Ain’t she the one that went to the bathroom wearing the mike that was still on and her listeners heard her saying things like “Ahhh, getting rid of that felt so good” and she was blasting her in-laws and everything?
If us Conservatives say this Petraeus resigned to keep from testifying about how the Obama crowd left our people in Benghazi to hang out to dry, you can take it to the bank. Facts? We don’t need no stinking facts.
Tundra Dude
November 15th, 2012
3:10 pm
JB
David Petraeus has made it clear that his resignation as CIA director has everything to do with his own personal failings, and nothing whatsoever to do with the tragedy in Benghazi and its aftermath:
What’s clear to me is that Fibbing is part of the job description:
The Sins Of General David Petraeus
More so than any other leading military figure, Petraeus’ entire philosophy has been based on hiding the truth, on deception, on building a false image. “Perception” is key, he wrote in his 1987 Princeton dissertation: “What policymakers believe to have taken place in any particular case is what matters — more than what actually occurred.” Yes, it’s not what actually happens that matters — it’s what you can convince the public it thinks happened
———————-
Petraeus’ first biographer, former U.S. News and World Report reporter Linda Robinson, wrote a book about him, then went to CENTCOM to work for him.
Yes — a so-called journalist published a book about him, then started getting a paycheck from him soon after. This went largely unremarked upon.
http://bit.ly/TUoSXy
“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
~CIA Director William Casey,1981
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
3:11 pm
Recon — “Facts that the left strangely wish’s to ignore. You would think as Americans they would be concerned with other Americans murdered while serving our country.”
“Facts” on the order of ‘Romney’s ahead by four points and will Atomic Butt-Drop Obama on Election Day,’ perhaps.
Here’s a hint. Just because you *think* something’s true, that doesn’t make it so. And just because it’s important to you personally, that doesn’t make it true, either.
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
3:12 pm
” What I cannot promise is that I can dumb it down enough for you to comprehend.”
You’ll have more than enough challenge yourself for comprehension but even if I needed assistance I don’t read your posts unless I catch my name in one of them.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 15th, 2012
3:14 pm
Well, if BP pleads guilty to manslaughter I want them to do the Perp Walk and go to Death Row just like all other people do. And besides, they ruint some good shrimp and fish we could of eat.
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
3:15 pm
JHM, if you wish to take an UnAmerican position by ignoring this issue it’s entirely your own choosing.
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
3:16 pm
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
3:06 pm
DowninAlbany,
Facts that the left strangely wish’s to ignore. You would think as Americans they would be concerned with other Americans murdered while serving our country. Sadly though some of them fail to see it that way.
I obviously don’t know exactly what happened in Benghazi that fateful night. But, this I do know: either the administration is lying to us or they are grossly incompetent…maybe both. How our consulate could go virtually unguarded in this hot bed of terrorist activity on the anniversary 9/11/01 is beyond me. Yet, the folks on here say that WE have our heads up our ___.
Now, if someone will simply ask, “DIA, what did you want Obama to do, wade in there personally, guns-a-blazing?” my day will be complete…
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 15th, 2012
3:17 pm
Well if a corporation is a person and has the right to free speech, then I guess it makes sense a corporation can be charged with a crime. But to paraphrase from Jaws…..”We are gonna need a bigger courtroom”.
oops
November 15th, 2012
3:20 pm
“Time Mag reporting that Petraeus had to talk Broadwell out of running for US Senate in North Carolina.”
whooooooooooowhheee that’s funny
what a broad
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 15th, 2012
3:20 pm
And shaking finger at the American people…….”Ah did not have sexual relations with that women”.
.
lol
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
3:21 pm
the cat,
That Awful House CEO stinks on ice.
He was damn near chuckling when he told reporters that he was a victim of his own stupidity.
He’s lucky I did not have a microphone.
I would have interjected, “Excuse me sir, don’t you mean that you are a victim of your own sleaziness?”
Just another fat cat dirtbag…
St Simons
November 15th, 2012
3:22 pm
Thiiink of the karma – if US vs BP ends up toppling Citizens United.
3 words – dee-lish-us
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
3:22 pm
Recon — “You’ll have more than enough challenge yourself for comprehension but even if I needed assistance I don’t read your posts unless I catch my name in one of them.
Well, of *course.* You wouldn’t want to read anything that challenges your preconceived notions, would you?
“JHM, if you wish to take an UnAmerican position by ignoring this issue it’s entirely your own choosing.”
The notion that your position is somehow emblematic or exemplary of America is one of the most downright ignorant, presumptuous and arrogant statements I have ever seen on this blog.
l’état, c’est moi
– Napoleon Bonaparte and Recon
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
3:23 pm
It is my understanding his testimony will be “behind closed doors” (pun intended) so we will probably never know exactly what he does testify to.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
3:23 pm
DIA — “Now, if someone will simply ask, “DIA, what did you want Obama to do, wade in there personally, guns-a-blazing?” my day will be complete…”
Given that whenever someone criticizes President Bush’s actions on 9/11, conservatives ask ‘well, did you expect him to jump up, rush out of the building and scare all those schoolchildren,’ your argument is both specious and naive.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
3:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOQI2-4vkCQ
Paul
November 15th, 2012
3:25 pm
JHM
” Just because you *think* something’s true, that doesn’t make it so. And just because it’s important to you personally, that doesn’t make it true, either.”
FYI, we’d already established with the multipage on ‘EVERY federal manager is governed by THE REG on adultery and EVERY OTHER federal manager would have been fired, but oh no, not CLINTON!!”
There is a pattern there – and you nailed it. Thanks.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
3:25 pm
P.S.
Has Obama “specifically” answered this question:
“When” (what date) did you first know of the Petraeus investigation?
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
3:26 pm
St. Simons 3:22
I think that the’ corporations are people’ originated in a supreme court case in the !800s
allowing an individual to sue a railroad.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
3:27 pm
Paul — “FYI, we’d already established with the multipage on ‘EVERY federal manager is governed by THE REG on adultery and EVERY OTHER federal manager would have been fired, but oh no, not CLINTON!!”
Given that I didn’t vote for Clinton — either time — I have no idea what you think you just established.
“There is a pattern there – and you nailed it. Thanks.”
Actually, I think what you’ve nailed is your foot to the floor.
getalife
November 15th, 2012
3:27 pm
I saw her on the Daily Show and thought there was something different about her.
She was doing the General so he did have sexual relations with that woman.
The only scandal is a republican General.
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
3:28 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
3:23 pm
It is my understanding his testimony will be “behind closed doors” (pun intended) so we will probably never know exactly what he does testify to.
None of these folks want to comment on that point, there, my multi-digit friend!
getalife
November 15th, 2012
3:28 pm
scout,
When will you stop wanting to get our President?
You look silly scout.
Peadawg
November 15th, 2012
3:28 pm
“he cheated on his wife and everything he says is true?”
Very good point. This guy is a complete scumbag. Not sure I believe anything he says.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 15th, 2012
3:29 pm
Senior Digits seems to be ducking the question about whether he has signed a petition to secede
bookman parrot
November 15th, 2012
3:29 pm
Jay says it,… well, it has to be true then ….
St Simons
November 15th, 2012
3:29 pm
ok, bf, i’ll take your word for it – we were busy back then.
bookman parrot
November 15th, 2012
3:30 pm
forgot to say that Jay is totally unbiased and has no agenda ever…. just the facts ….
Citizen of the World
November 15th, 2012
3:32 pm
This may seem like just so much semantics, but I am so weary of the suppositions and speculations about this and other events that I will parse words nonetheless.
The cat says “I’m convinced his lover is a double agent.” By which expert or by what evidence were you “convinced”?
Or are you just speculating? If that’s the case, say, “I’m speculating his lover is a double agent.”
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
3:32 pm
This bizarre, self-destructive penchant of the right wing is finally paying dividends…
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
3:33 pm
St Simons
just agreeing that it could indeed be the defense that BP will make, that corps
are not people and cannot be held criminally liable.
They BOTH suck
November 15th, 2012
3:33 pm
Was Petraeus supposed to be questioned in a closed or open door forum before this fiasco came to light?
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
3:34 pm
None of these folks want to comment on that point
I daresay few of us get much enjoyment from taunting Scout. We’ve most of us been there/done that.
The joke’s only funny a few times, then it’s just kind of sad, because he appears to actually believe the crap he posts.
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
3:34 pm
Something that I think is lost in the fog of dems vs reps is that the FBI apparently spied on Petraeus and his / their emails. If the FBI can do this to Petraeus, they can do it to ANYONE. Does that bother anyone?
Jay
November 15th, 2012
3:37 pm
Yes, DIA, it bothers me. I’m just waiting to get a few things clarified before weighing in on it, however.
Banderson
November 15th, 2012
3:37 pm
Was Petraeus supposed to be questioned in a closed or open door forum before this fiasco came to light?
******************************************************
Don’t know the answer to that question, but it would seem that, if you were going to testify about what the CIA knew, which might give away how they were keeping tabs on things and who might be working for them in Libya, you might want it behind closed doors.
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
3:37 pm
Down in Albany
The FBI can do anything it wants. Whether what it finds can be used in court is a different
matter.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
3:37 pm
DIA — “If the FBI can do this to Petraeus, they can do it to ANYONE. Does that bother anyone?”
Hell, no.
If anything, I feel sorry for the poor CIA dude who has to listen to my phone conversations with my doctors. Lots of icky medical details.
RAMZAD
November 15th, 2012
3:38 pm
My first question is:
Where was Republican outrage when Bush, Cheney, Bolton, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Rove, Libby, Rice and all those intellectual lightweights were lying about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, and Saddam’s foray into Yellow Cake uranium from Niger, Saddam’s complicity with Al Queda in 9/11, and outing a CIA agent for propaganda dividends? Are Republicans truly that disingenuously greasy as to be looking political hay out of Benghazi? Maybe that all that was too long ago and we liberals should forget about it.
Another question is:
Where were the Republican wise men when twenty two bit terrorists came to America and committed a group of massacres like nothing the world has ever seen? Benghazi is in Libya. New York is on the Hudson River.
Constructive Feedback
November 15th, 2012
3:41 pm
Mr Bookman:
Do you notice that you and the rest of the media (on both sides of the bias) have spent more time debating General Patreaus’ “Sexcapades” than you bothed to inspect President Obama’s original claim that the NATO lead hit upon Libya was actually a “Humanitarian Mission” OR ask why the American CIA had operatives in Cuba?
Gone are the days when the American CIA in South America with the coordination of rightwing foreign policy operative Otto Reich drew the attention of you and Amy Goodman of “Democracy Now”.
Indeed you have “Changed”, sir.
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
3:42 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
3:37 pm
DIA — “If the FBI can do this to Petraeus, they can do it to ANYONE. Does that bother anyone?”
Hell, no.
If anything, I feel sorry for the poor CIA dude who has to listen to my phone conversations with my doctors. Lots of icky medical details.
Especially the Urologist and Protologist!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
3:42 pm
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
3:28 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
3:23 pm
It is my understanding his testimony will be “behind closed doors” (pun intended) so we will probably never know exactly what he does testify to.
.
.
.
Are you telling the whole blog that you think there should be so much transparency that the government should not keep anything secret?
Got Launch Codes?
Besides, they’ll be GOP legislators in the hearing so if there’s any thing for “you people” to salivate over you can bet your shiney hiney
it’ll be leaked.
JKL2
November 15th, 2012
3:42 pm
joe mama- I’ve always found the best assessment of an officer to come from his or her troops. Ask them, ‘would you go to war with Captain/Colonel/General Hufflepuff’ and you’ll be able to determine that officer’s worth from the collective responses of the troops under his or her command
Evidently you exclude the Commander-in-Chief from your poll…
Jay
November 15th, 2012
3:43 pm
“The FBI can do anything it wants. Whether what it finds can be used in court is a different
matter.
As this case demonstrates, there are many ways of destroying someone short of a courtroom.
skipper
November 15th, 2012
3:44 pm
Whether you are a lib/conservative, or left-handed one-eyed Ethiopian co-pilot it is really kinda simple…..the plain truth is that ole “booger” has claimed another one!! It will bring a man down…..black,white,rich,poor, Dem, Repub, Independent, or whatever!!lol
Jay
November 15th, 2012
3:45 pm
Also, the hearings originally scheduled for this week were closed-door. They only did the previous hearing in open session so they could wring election-day coverage from it.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
3:48 pm
JHM
I was referring to 0311’s penchant for stating opinion as fact, then the segue into what ought to be as that’s how he sees it, also stated as fact.
But good luck. It’s kinda like watching deja vu all over again.
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
3:48 pm
The resignation was about adultery. Not testifying about the Benghazi fiasco is just a freebie. Look for some well-heeled Democrat fundraiser to get Petraeus a highly-compensated “consulting” job in the near future in exchange for making himself scarce during the Benghazi hearings.
josef
November 15th, 2012
3:50 pm
For the love of G-d, Israel and Gaza are on the brink of all out war, flinging missiles at each other so fast they can’t be counted and we are fixated on a pack of sleazeballs. Have we really lost our bearings to this point?
clem
November 15th, 2012
3:50 pm
shame someone could not make you scarce
Jay
November 15th, 2012
3:51 pm
Josef:
And nothing we say or do on this side of the ocean can affect that a whit.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
3:52 pm
DownInAlbany
” If the FBI can do this to Petraeus, they can do it to ANYONE. Does that bother anyone?”
Yeah. My first post on the matter – you have a friend in the FBI, you tell him you got emails that made you feel uncomfortable, that’s all it takes to get an investigation going? Then if it pans out there’s no threat, they keep on digging because of who the person is? What was the basis for issuing a warrant? Where’s the judicial oversight? Those guys didn’t even know enough in this case to know they were required to notify the appropriate Congressional committees?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
3:52 pm
JKL — “Evidently you exclude the Commander-in-Chief from your poll…”
The CINC doesn’t share the hardships of the troops in the field, regardless of his political party. A company/battalion/division commander does.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
3:53 pm
Paul — “JHM I was referring to 0311’s penchant for stating opinion as fact, then the segue into what ought to be as that’s how he sees it, also stated as fact. But good luck. It’s kinda like watching deja vu all over again.”
OIC. I can dig it. Thanks much for clarifying.
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
3:53 pm
“Something that I think is lost in the fog of dems vs reps is that the FBI apparently spied on Petraeus and his / their emails. If the FBI can do this to Petraeus, they can do it to ANYONE. Does that bother anyone?”
My employer can legally spy on anything I do using company property, i.e. my company-owned laptop. I imagine Petraeus’s employer (the U.S. government) can legally do the same.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
3:54 pm
Good Fight @ 3:29
Nope ……… have not.
JKL2
November 15th, 2012
3:54 pm
josef- For the love of G-d, Israel and Gaza are on the brink of all out war, flinging missiles at each other so fast they can’t be counted and we are fixated on a pack of sleazeballs. Have we really lost our bearings to this point?
Are you waiting on obama to file civil rights violations against Isreal thru the UN or should he just start bombing them like Egypt and Libya?
skipper
November 15th, 2012
3:55 pm
@Jay and Josef…..
As I said before, if we (mainly LBJ) had left Israel alons during the 6-day war, we would not have all the problems over there now. They had the means and power to handle that cesspool over there.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
3:55 pm
josef
” Have we really lost our bearings to this point?”
FIrst presidential press conference in about 8 months and what did the press lead with?
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
3:55 pm
“Have we really lost our bearings to this point?”
And people are dying of starvation. People are being tortured. People are suffering from natural disasters. What, exactly, would you have us do? If you don’t like the direction of the discussion…you don’t have to participate.
skipper
November 15th, 2012
3:55 pm
p.s. that’s “alone” not “alons!” lol
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
3:56 pm
Evidently you exclude the Commander-in-Chief from your poll…
(2 has the inside scoop, doncha know? That’s what his endless, exhaustive research has gotten him…)
Unions -- Bah, humbug! (aka, they're worthless except as vote for your president)
November 15th, 2012
3:56 pm
No Red Tape? Non-Union FEMA Crews, Water and Other Supplies Sit Idle Thanks To Unions & Red Tape
Amid Sandy’s devastation, Long Island union sent written demand to Florida utilities: Pay dues or stay home
Georgia power crew turned away from Sandy-stricken New York for refusing to join union
Cuomo orders investigation of utilities post-Sandy
josef
November 15th, 2012
3:57 pm
JAY
Nor can what we say here about this pail of hogwash…this, imeoiauo, just another of the 1001 games to play while waiting for Armageddon…I guess I just am old fashioned and had rather keep my pornography under the mattress…
Jay
November 15th, 2012
3:58 pm
For what it’s worth, I have no trouble whatsoever with Israel taking out the Hamas commander in retaliation for rocket strikes. Good move. But there is such a thing as overreaction ….
JKL2
November 15th, 2012
3:58 pm
joe mama- The CINC doesn’t share the hardships of the troops in the field, regardless of his political party. A company/battalion/division commander does.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. FWIW, 98% think the CINC is POS.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 15th, 2012
3:59 pm
FBI can monitor my emails or text messages all they want. This morning they would have discovered that my household has clean laundry and hoagie rolls.
What creeps me out is that street view feature on Google maps.
josef
November 15th, 2012
3:59 pm
Okay, y’all. then let’s talk about who’s b’ f’ing who.. I mean, if we’re going to do it, then let’s go full tilt boogie with it…
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
4:02 pm
“Okay, y’all. then let’s talk about who’s b’ f’ing who.. I mean, if we’re going to do it, then let’s go full tilt boogie with it”
blogspot.com is ready when you are
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
4:02 pm
JKL — “Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. FWIW, 98% think the CINC is POS.”
I don’t think you’re in a position to speak for troops or veterans. In fact, I think your ‘poll results’ are even less worthwhile than the ones done by that Dean Chambers “Unskewed Polls” dipspit.
So just pipe down until you have something substantive and worthwhile to add, k?
Jay
November 15th, 2012
4:03 pm
and Skipper:
“As I said before, if we (mainly LBJ) had left Israel alone during the 6-day war, we would not have all the problems over there now. They had the means and power to handle that cesspool over there.”
A., it’s probably incorrect to believe that would have changed a damn thing, especially some 45 years later.
B. We pulled Israel off because if we didn’t, the Soviets had made it perfectly clear that they were going to intervene militarily. Which meant that we would have had to intervene militarily. Which meant WWIII.
Maybe you think that would have been a good idea nonetheless. I do not.
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
4:04 pm
Jay
November 15th, 2012
3:43 pm
“The FBI can do anything it wants. Whether what it finds can be used in court is a different
matter.
As this case demonstrates, there are many ways of destroying someone short of a courtroom.
…………………………………………………………………….
True. an op ed column can work just as well.
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:04 pm
DOGGONE
And just where would you suggest I go? I’m not talking just about the blog and us here, I’m talking about the 24/7 on this story with nothing of substance beyond prying into what should have been the peccadillos of any of those of us here today…
Paul
November 15th, 2012
4:04 pm
josef
Bad day at the office?
As long as the non-Israel neighbors do not condemn and move against Hamas and others, peace is a lonnnnnng way off.
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:05 pm
DOGGONE
Ain’t you just full of repeat one liners today!
Paul
November 15th, 2012
4:06 pm
sorry, josef, thought you were still on Israel and Gaza.
They BOTH suck
November 15th, 2012
4:07 pm
josef
Why the uproar? This is nothing new. It sells every day, all day. Why would it be selling and being bought any less with the head of the CIA being involved? Like it or not, it is going to sell more.
Not saying I totally agree with it, but it is what it is.
Krystal'sBalls
November 15th, 2012
4:07 pm
I say we let Israel and Palestine duke it out and stay the hell out of it. Sibling spat it is and they need to get their differences worked out. If they never do, so be it. Frankly, I’m long past sick of it.
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:07 pm
PAUL
No, actually it was a very good one. Today was our parents day Thanksgiving luncheon…
Paul
November 15th, 2012
4:09 pm
josef
Glad it was a nice one just before the holiday break.
getalife
November 15th, 2012
4:10 pm
Looks like another war in Gaza.
Live airstrike on cnn.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 15th, 2012
4:11 pm
I say we let Israel and Palestine duke it out and stay the hell out of it. Sibling spat it is and they need to get their differences worked out. If they never do, so be it. Frankly, I’m long past sick of it.
Second that. I doubt Syria and Egypt are in position to get involved. So long as Iran stays out it, let them settle it amongst themselves.
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
4:11 pm
“And just where would you suggest I go?”
What part of “blogspot.com” did you not understand? Josef…you’ve been around here long enough to know that if you have something to discuss you post and if it sparks interest we’ll discuss it. Berating us for NOT discussing something is just dumb. And just exactly what would YOU have done about what is going on between them?
As I see it there’s a bottom-line limit to what can be done. Sooner or later THEY are going to have to either work it out, or destroy each other because they’re too locked into ideology to THINK.
You know as well as anyone if we intervene on Israel’s side in this, it will just add fuel to the fire of extremists that already hate us for supporting them. And if we intervene on the side of the Palestinians we could very well end up in aother nation building exercise..and I REALLY don’t think we…or the world…is quite ready for us to invade that are like we did Iran.
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:14 pm
JHN @ 4:02…
Military personnel call themselves Republican at about 50%, Democrat at about 15%.
http://www.quora.com/United-States-Armed-Forces/Why-is-the-American-military-overwhelmingly-conservative
Guess they’re happy to speak for themselves……..
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:14 pm
As for Israel and Hamas…I really am interested in hearing what y’all have to say about that…
This is, I think, more than just a Gaza-Israel thing…Hamas is on the ropes in Syria and Lebanon and is, as we know, Iran’s surrogate. This may well be a prelude to a much wider set of actions which, as we are hearing already from Washington, pretty much has our government’s seal of approval. I’m not sure if Barack hasn’t turned loose our little feist to do our dirty work for us again. Bibi’s acting awfullly coksure…
Erwin's cat
November 15th, 2012
4:15 pm
I got nothin’
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:16 pm
Military Times Poll: Romney bests Obama, 2-1
Economy, not military issues, tops concerns
By Andrew Tilghman – Staff writer
Posted : Sunday Oct 7, 2012 10:34:55 EDT
The professional core of the U.S. military overwhelmingly favors Mitt Romney over President Obama in the upcoming election — but not because of any particular military issues, according to a new poll of more than 3,100 active and reserve troops.
Respondents rated the economy and the candidates’ character as their most important considerations and all but ignored the war in Afghanistan as an issue of concern.
The Military Times Poll is a secure email survey of active-duty, National Guard and reserve members who are subscribers to the Military Times newspapers (see How We Did It, below).
This population is older and more senior than the military population at large, but it is representative of the professional core of the all-volunteer force.
The 3,100 respondents — roughly two-thirds active-duty and one-third reserve component members — are about 80 percent white and 91 percent male. Forty percent are in paygrades E-5 through E-8, while more than 35 percent are in paygrades O-3 through O-5.
Almost 80 percent of respondents have a college degree — including 27 percent with a graduate degree and more than 11 percent with a post-graduate degree — while an additional 18.5 percent have some college under their belts.
And they are battle-hardened; almost 29 percent have spent more than two cumulative years deployed since 9/11, while a similar percentage has spent one to two cumulative years deployed.
The Military Times poll shows that Republicans continue to enjoy overwhelming support among the military’s professional ranks.
“There is really an affinity for Republican candidates, even though [troops] say that what counts is character and handling the economy,” said Richard Kohn, who teaches military history at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
Poll results indicate that about 66 percent of those surveyed support Romney, compared with about 26 percent who say they will vote to re-elect President Obama.
When asked about the most important issue guiding their vote this year, about 66 percent of respondents cited either “the economy” or “the character of the candidate.” Less than 16 percent of troops surveyed cited “national security.”
And the war in Afghanistan is barely a blip on the radar: Just more than 1 percent put that conflict at the top of their list of concerns. That’s in stark contrast to troops’ feelings about the war in Iraq in the Military Times 2008 election poll, when 16 percent cited that conflict as their top concern.
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:16 pm
DOGGONE
And you so how quickly “we” did go to discussing it…you’re just being your little snippet self today.
Jay
November 15th, 2012
4:17 pm
Josef, that would certainly be the next step to watch for. If I were an Iranian nuclear worker, I would be very nervous right about now….
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
4:19 pm
B. Shockley — “Military personnel call themselves Republican at about 50%, Democrat at about 15%.”
That may be, but it certainly doesn’t support JKL’s claim that “98% think the CINC is POS.”
“Guess they’re happy to speak for themselves……..”
Indeed. And servicemen, as well as veterans like myself, don’t really care to have others speak for us. We’re perfectly capable of speaking for ourselves.
If you or JKL can establish that 98% figure, then have at it. Otherwise, I — and a lot of other veterans and servicemen — would appreciate it a great deal if you simply let us speak for ourselves.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
4:19 pm
josef
Well, you heard him at the news conference. Reiterated how before the election said he would not let Iran get a nuke, said it during the election and he’s saying it now.
Economic pressure, surrogate pressure – it’s all pressure.
Not saying Hamas is acting as anyone’s proxy. They are crazy and evil on their own. But how Israel deals with this will be instructive.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
4:20 pm
Jay
Seein’ as how you’re here — is there any data on the I-85 peach pass lanes?
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:20 pm
Joe,
Not speaking for anyone…just posting facts. Not my problem if they don’t support your world view.
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
4:21 pm
“And you so how quickly “we” did go to discussing it…you’re just being your little snippet self today”
Damn right. Don’t like it? Don’t read what I post.
Don Abernethy
November 15th, 2012
4:21 pm
Since the election I have become an isolationist and do not plan to get involved with comments concerning our pitiful country.
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
4:22 pm
Barbour: GOP needs a ‘proctology exam’.
Lord knows, they sure do stink!
To wit, read the scurrilous and childish lies about our men and women in uniform by General JKL2 of the 101st Chairborne…
They BOTH suck
November 15th, 2012
4:22 pm
Ben @ 4:20
Sort of like the electorate not voting for the man you said would win. Not anyone else’s problem if they don’t support your world view.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
4:22 pm
B. Shockley — “Joe, Not speaking for anyone…just posting facts.”
Your facts don’t support JKL’s contention. So thanks for playing.
“Not my problem if they don’t support your world view.”
Actually, they *do* support my world view. I said that JKL’s 98% figure was wrong. Your Military Times piece agrees with me. So thanks very much for the assist.
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:23 pm
“To wit, read the scurrilous and childish lies about our men and women in uniform by General JKL2 of the 101st Chairborne…”
Option 2 – read the facts posted by Ben Shockley at 4:16
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
4:23 pm
“When” (what date) did you first know of the Petraeus investigation?
He dodged that question in yesterdays press conference.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
4:24 pm
“Military Times Poll: Romney bests Obama, 2-1″
Well of course.
What do you expect of a group that got promised all those freebies?
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:24 pm
After reading the facts I posted @ 4:16, I’m pretty comfortable asserting that JamVet and Joe Hussein don’t speak for their military brethren.
Just sayin’………………………….
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:24 pm
JAY
@ 4:17
I would agree with that. This is the weakest (long range) that Hamas has been in a long while and there is a certain desperation at work, I believe. The line-up has already started, and France and Britain have already, more or less, said “go for it.” Russia is being cautious and Turkey is caught in a bind. Egypt is a wild card here.
Barack is back in and Bibi has his own vote on the horizon. I think this is what they had already worked out and were just waiting for the US elections to be over.
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:26 pm
98% of the people living at my house think the C-In-C is a POS.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
4:26 pm
B. Shockley — “After reading the facts I posted @ 4:16, I’m pretty comfortable asserting that JamVet and Joe Hussein don’t speak for their military brethren. Just sayin’………………………….”
Oh, I feel pretty comfortable asserting that they’d get along with us a lot better than they’d get along with you. (giggling)
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
4:27 pm
Recon @ 4:23
It still needs (and will eventually) to be answered.
So much for “transparency”.
They BOTH suck
November 15th, 2012
4:27 pm
“98% of the people living at my house think the C-In-C is a POS.”
And where is the other 2% of you? Are you not a whole person?
Brosephus™
November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm
@ 4:16
“This population is older and more senior than the military population at large, but it is representative of the professional core of the all-volunteer force.”
…..
“The Military Times poll shows that Republicans continue to enjoy overwhelming support among the military’s professional ranks.”
I don’t think there’s anyway to get to 98% based on what that poll says it represents. That said, y’all just continue on with the daily pissing contest.
Redcoat
November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm
“I’m not a crook”
Erwin's cat
November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm
JOSEF
Barack is back in and Bibi has his own vote on the horizon. I think this is what they had already worked out and were just waiting for the US elections to be over.
Very possible…As for Turkey, they always manage to be in that “caught in the middle” bind, but that sorta has made Turkey the Turkey of today eh?
Erwin's cat
November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm
JOSEF
Barack is back in and Bibi has his own vote on the horizon. I think this is what they had already worked out and were just waiting for the US elections to be over.
Very possible…As for Turkey, they always manage to be in that “caught in the middle” bind, but that sorta has made Turkey the Turkey of today eh?
getalife
November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm
Can’t we all just get along?
I think if you live in Syria, Gaza and Israel you are very nervous right about now….
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm
DOGGONE
Who said I didn’t like what you post? You’re one of those I read consistently. Sometimes I disagree, sometimes I agree. More often it’s the latter. But just like your periodic charges to me of being a drama queen, well, you DO get snippy…
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
4:31 pm
Ben, although you are very, very, very, very, very, very good at it, playing stupid is really not useful in this discussion.
Just grow a pair and say it – JKL2 is a scurrilous liar when he writes that 98% (of the troops in the field) think the CINC is POS.
Or don’t.
Your current cowardice is noted either way…
Jay
November 15th, 2012
4:31 pm
Jamvet, back off the personal attacks.
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:32 pm
“Your current cowardice is noted either way”
Easy to say hiding behind that keyboard, Jammypoo……..
yuzeyurbrane
November 15th, 2012
4:32 pm
sometimes a banana is just a banana
They BOTH suck
November 15th, 2012
4:33 pm
Jam
Election or no election, it appears that Ben is back and “Bitter than ever”
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:34 pm
In light of todays dramatic events in the middle east, I’m wondering if Obama’s decision to blow off the meeting with Israel’s PM was such a good idea.
Just thinking out loud………
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
4:34 pm
Ben Shockley,
Posts a poll result from the Military Times and the libs start whining. Geez
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
4:35 pm
Jamvet is a licensed personal attacker with a thesaurus concealed carry permit.
disgusted with Obama
November 15th, 2012
4:35 pm
Enter your comments here
They BOTH suck
November 15th, 2012
4:35 pm
josef
What is your take on Saudi Arabia? Are they playing a role behind the scenes or watching and waiting to see if their is more escalation that draws in Iran?
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:36 pm
“Oh, I feel pretty comfortable asserting that they’d get along with us a lot better than they’d get along with you”
I feel pretty comfortable asserting you’d be wrong, but that never stops you from posting.
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:36 pm
ERWIN’S
On Turkey, there is that…if Israel doesn’t care about any of the other players in the region, they should be doing all they can to repair that breach. They actually need Turkey and, truth be told, Turkey needs Israel. The future of western style democracy in the region lies in their hands.
Peter
November 15th, 2012
4:37 pm
Just another reason Republican’s are not to be trusted………
http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/social-issues/tenn-gop-congressmans-wife-had-2-abortions/nS7Nk/
Updated: 2:38 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 15, 2012 | Posted: 2:37 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 15, 2012
Tenn. GOP congressman’s wife had 2 abortions
By ERIK SCHELZIG
The Associated Press
NASHVILLE, Tenn. —
Republican U.S. Rep. Scott DesJarlais testified during divorce proceedings that he and his former wife made a “mutual” decision for her to have two abortions, according to divorce transcripts released Thursday.
The 2001 court transcripts were released by the state Democratic Party, which had tried to air the documents before the Nov. 6 election. A DesJarlais spokesman didn’t immediately return a message seeking comment.
DesJarlais easily won a second term despite revelations that he once urged a patient with whom he was having an affair to get an abortion. DesJarlais, whose campaign platform opposed abortion, acknowledged the conversation but said he was only trying to get her to admit she wasn’t pregnant.
The transcripts show that woman testified under oath that she had been pregnant. She declined to elaborate on the outcome of the pregnancy.
On his campaign website, DesJarlais espoused an anti-abortion position, saying: “All life should be cherished and protected. We are pro-life.”
According to DesJarlais’ testimony, the first of his ex-wife Susan’s abortions was because she was taking an experimental drug that carried potential risks in pregnancy. The second came amid problems in their relationship.
“Things were not going well between us and it was a mutual decision,” he said. “I don’t think that it was easy for either one of us. I think it was a very difficult and poor choice and I think that there are probably regrets both ways.”
DesJarlais’ first wife had supported earlier efforts to release the court records, though her attorney said Thursday he hadn’t had time to review them enough to comment.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
4:37 pm
Recon — “Posts a poll result from the Military Times and the libs start whining.”
Not me. He backed up what I was saying.
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:37 pm
“Posts a poll result from the Military Times and the libs start whining”
When challenged, people tend to revert to that which they know best.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 15th, 2012
4:38 pm
The Hamass have nothing to worry about from Obama.
.
He’s keeping those hell-fire missles close to his chest.
.
There’s secesh fever in the air.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
4:38 pm
B. Shockley — “I feel pretty comfortable asserting you’d be wrong”
I’m not a bit concerned about non-veterans’ assessments of what veterans or active-duty troops might think, say or do.
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
4:39 pm
The nightmare is over,
http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/11/disney-buys-rights-to-afghanistan-from-department-of-defense/
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:39 pm
I guess Hamas hasn’t heard that Obama is going to solve every problem on earth by raising taxes on people making over $250K.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
4:39 pm
“I’ll give up my thesaurus when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.”
– Thomas “Webster” Jefferson
disgusted with Obama
November 15th, 2012
4:40 pm
Who cares if Petraeus had an affair or not. Not right but it is personal. We need the truth
about Benghazi. We need to get on with the show. The liar is our leader (OBAMA). MANY
versions have come from him. Is it time to impeach him? Absolutely yes! He thinks he is
Gods gift of leaders. WRONG.
JKL2
November 15th, 2012
4:40 pm
joe mama- I don’t think you’re in a position to speak for troops or veterans.
Being both a Soldier and a veteran, in a room surrounded by Soldiers and veterans, I think I have every right.
Even a quick poll of African American Soldier’s reveals obama got 0% votes from our section.
obama: judged a POS by those he commands.
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:41 pm
BEN
Bibi and Barack are in lockstep…
BOTH
Just my take, but I think Saudi Arabia is tickled pink…”the enemy of my enemy is my friend,” Hamas and Iran are a much greater threat to them than the “Zionist entity…”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 15th, 2012
4:41 pm
So, I’m still of the opinion that if all the politicians in DC having mistress’ were outed, no we’d be missing half of Congress.
JAMVET
At what point, after 60 long years of the Zionist experiment, do we simply throw our hands in the air and let them go it alone….I’m wondering if we are enabling Israeli’s from taking the necessary steps to assimilate into that georgraphy instead of being a discriminatory religious state…60 years of killing..folks who were born in 1950 in Israel know nothing but killing..both parties are at fault..
As an aside, how on earth could Hamas send 180 missiles into southern Israel and only kill 3 people…I know the Israeli system got alot of them but the guys shooting them off are clearly not too talented…
Paul
November 15th, 2012
4:42 pm
Ben 4:39
You rather lost any claim to making more rational points than others with that doozy -
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:42 pm
“joe mama- I don’t think you’re in a position to speak for troops or veterans.”
Joe loves to speak, he just really doesn’t have much to say.
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
4:43 pm
“But just like your periodic charges to me of being a drama queen, well, you DO get snippy”
Well, now you can’t say you didn’t know…I’m an equal opportunity sniper. And just for the record, I cannot recall EVER calling you a drama queen.
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:43 pm
“Ben 4:39
You rather lost any claim to making more rational points than others with that doozy -”
It was tongue-in-cheek.
i thought you libs were all about “nuance”?
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
4:43 pm
JKL2
Truman wasn’t very popular with the military during his term either.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
4:44 pm
disgusted 4:40
Do you think the House will expand the hearings to see if there’s a pattern dating from the Bush years when seven embassies and consulates were attacked?
One would think that at least after the first there would have been a clue -
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:45 pm
“Ben 4:39
You rather lost any claim to making more rational points than others with that doozy -”
In the future I’ll refrain from sarcasm or hyperbole. Libs seem to need things laid out like a map. Kind of like Candyland.
waiting
November 15th, 2012
4:45 pm
Petraeus needs to be honest with the public and let the citizens have peace and he needs
to tell the truth on Obama negligence/
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:46 pm
Jay, I really don’t care if Jamvet gets snarky with me. Hope you didn’t ban him.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
4:46 pm
Ben
Tongue in cheek?
Okay.
It just so resembled other post of yours when you go into your ‘jammypoo’ mode.
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
4:47 pm
0311/8541,
He also dodged the question from Ed Henery who asked if he had issued any order to save those under attack in Benghazi. After rambling on for several minutes with an evasive expression on his face he said that he told his subordinates to do whatever it took to protect those under attack. I was hoping for a follow up question asking if he received follow up reports as to specific action plans and where they were in the implementation but the conference was concluded. Obama should be called to testify.
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
4:47 pm
Jamvet is a licensed personal attacker with a thesaurus concealed carry permit.
Good one, frog!
I support the troops and don’t cotton liars who speak for them.
And liar is the correct word.
But deep down I am laughing heartily.
Look at the highly successful results of last Tuesday.
In no small part explained by the rantings of the GOP’s lunatic fringe…
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:47 pm
DOGGONE
Oh, I can…but truth be told it WAS deserved!
JKL2
November 15th, 2012
4:48 pm
joe mama- Not me. He backed up what I was saying.
Correct. The vast majority (a mandate if you will) of American Soldiers think obama is a POS.
Oscar
November 15th, 2012
4:49 pm
At what point, after 60 long years of the Zionist experiment, do we simply throw our hands in the air and let them go it alone….
________
I think the point was hit yesterday.
_____
I’m wondering if we are enabling Israeli’s from taking the necessary steps to assimilate into that georgraphy instead of being a discriminatory religious state
______
The area was not a discriminationry religious state until things started chainging the the early 20th century.
There should be one state, with everyone having equal rights, and equal voting rights and representation. That’s the goal to work toward.
Without help from us.
Ronald Reagan
November 15th, 2012
4:50 pm
Massive cover up going on here. CNN, MSNBC & AJC rallying their talking points covering for the Messiah! The truth will eventually come out & it won’t be good! Americans died & somebody lied!
getalife
November 15th, 2012
4:50 pm
disgusted,
Your comment is hilarious.
Now, take that same energy to get the terrorists that did it.
Thanks.
Krystal'sBalls
November 15th, 2012
4:51 pm
” Is it time to impeach him? ”
Funny…I heard just this morning on the Alex Bennett show them saying “The nuts are talking about secession right now, you just wait to see how long it takes before they’re screaming the impeachment stuf (again)!” lmao
Boy you CANNOT make this stuff up!! I’m rolling over here *knee slap*
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
4:51 pm
JKL — “Being both a Soldier and a veteran, in a room surrounded by Soldiers and veterans, I think I have every right.”
Soldiers and veterans are also told and trained to be truthful, even when the truth is difficult or will cast the soldier or his/her fellows in a bad light. So how truthful were you with the 98% figure?
Your *opinion* is one thing. Claiming that figures you pulled out of your third point of contact are factual is quite another.
“Even a quick poll of African American Soldier’s reveals obama got 0% votes from our section.”
And how, precisely, does that demonstrate that “98% think the CINC is POS”? Not voting for someone doesn’t establish that you think they’re a POS. It’s not a binary question.
“obama: judged a POS by those he commands.”
And then JKL woke up.
Erwin's cat
November 15th, 2012
4:51 pm
KAM
“I’ll surrender my lexicon when they wrest it from my frosty deceased digits.”
– Thomas “Webster” Jefferson
Oscar
November 15th, 2012
4:51 pm
Correct. The vast majority (a mandate if you will) of American Soldiers think obama is a POS.
+______
Their job is to follow his orders, not to think.
There was a reason the writers of the constitution put the civilian government in control of the military.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
4:51 pm
B. Shockley — “Joe loves to speak, he just really doesn’t have much to say.”
Said the master of the art.
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:52 pm
STEVIE
That only kill three…rests on two factors, Israel has a superb civil defense/warning system in place and its is more a defensive strategy to protect its civilian population while Hamas’ approach is an offensive one and not concerned with protecting its civilian population…
Ben Shockley
November 15th, 2012
4:53 pm
Jammypoo,
If you’re gonna call someone a liar, you should point out the lie and document that is is, in fact, a lie.
Otherwise, comments like that are simply the feeble bleatings of a coward.
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
4:54 pm
JHM
Is not the motto of the USMA “Do not lie cheat or steal nor tolerate among you
those who do” or something to that effect ?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
4:55 pm
JKL — “Correct. The vast majority (a mandate if you will) of American Soldiers think obama is a POS.”
Sorry, Punkin. Goalpost Movement Alert.
This is what you said earlier: “FWIW, 98% think the CINC is POS.”
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/11/15/petraeus-resignation-has-nothing-to-do-with-benghazi/?cp=2#comment-1152167
You could always man up and correct yourself — or admit that you were simply expressing your opinion — but that would probably taste too much like conceding to you, I suspect.
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
4:55 pm
At what point, after 60 long years of the Zionist experiment, do we simply throw our hands in the air and let them go it alone…
I do no advocate that. America does not betray her allies.
But I do advocate that we DO NOT send another $84,854,827,200.00 to her like we have since 1949. And throwing in interest costs borne by the U.S.of $49,936,680,000.00, that adds up to a grand total cost to U.S. taxpayers of …………………………………………… $134,791,507,200.00.
Not that we Americans could have done anything useful with $134billion or anything…
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
4:55 pm
I see where CNN asked McCain why he didn’t make the Benghazi meeting as it was something he was sooooo intereeted in.
Guess what?
He had another tantrum.
getalife
November 15th, 2012
4:56 pm
jk,
You speak for the troops?
Paul
November 15th, 2012
4:56 pm
Oscar
“There should be one state, with everyone having equal rights, and equal voting rights and representation. That’s the goal to work toward. Without help from us.”
Are you speaking of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Qatar, Bahrain, Lebanon, Gaza, West Bank, what?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
4:56 pm
B. Frog — “JHM Is not the motto of the USMA “Do not lie cheat or steal nor tolerate among you
those who do” or something to that effect ?”
I believe that’s part of the Honor Code, and I think the other service academies have something similar, as well.
I don’t know if JKL graduated from a service academy, but given his behavior this afternoon, I can’t imagine that he did.
GT
November 15th, 2012
4:56 pm
Conspiracy is in the minds of the petty. Here you have people right in Washington, Senators and Congressman, most of these state department people worked for both parties yet now the White House has decided to have a “secret” conspiracy. The same general under Bush, very good friends of Bush is now helping the enemy. This is richer than the affair in the first place. This is why the right cannot handle leadership, this trust factor is destructive to our country, yet they continue to undermine it with this dribble. When we really have a real crisis the public will be so numb to reality they will not react.
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
4:57 pm
A lexicon might be a wordy Republican.
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:57 pm
OSCAR
Just my opinion, but the only solution with half a chance of working is the two-state solution. Syria and Lebanon are examples of what can happen in a pluralistic experiment in the region…
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
4:57 pm
“Oh, I can…but truth be told it WAS deserved”
Because it was aimed at you and not someone else? And now I better leave before I say something that gets me thrown off of here for a while.
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
4:57 pm
The lie is that 98% of the troops in the field think that the CINC is a POS.
Even you are not that dense.
You just play the role perfectly…
getalife
November 15th, 2012
4:57 pm
Granny,
I think he needs to retire.
Get off my yard!
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
4:58 pm
Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
3:42 pm
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
3:28 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
3:23 pm
It is my understanding his testimony will be “behind closed doors” (pun intended) so we will probably never know exactly what he does testify to.
.
.
.
Are you telling the whole blog that you think there should be so much transparency that the government should not keep anything secret?
No, granny. Why do you have to expand my one question about this particular situation to be all-inclusive? I would hope that we would agree that the American people and the family of the dead deserve to know the truth. Do you want to eliminate the conspiracy theories about Benghazi? Maybe not…
GT
November 15th, 2012
4:58 pm
Remember the right accusing the Labor Department of stacking the deck on employment figures?
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:59 pm
FROG
“A lexicon might be a wordy Republican.”
Thass funny!
Paul
November 15th, 2012
4:59 pm
Granny
Heh, heh, heh.
And so we see his real interest in this affair.
Jay
November 15th, 2012
5:00 pm
“When we really have a real crisis the public will be so numb to reality they will not react.
THAT! ^^^^
Oscar
November 15th, 2012
5:01 pm
Are you speaking of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Qatar, Bahrain, Lebanon, Gaza, West Bank, what?
_______
Israel, the West Bank and Gaza.
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
5:02 pm
Unions — Bah, humbug! (aka, they’re worthless except as vote for your president)
November 15th, 2012
3:56 pm
No Red Tape? Non-Union FEMA Crews, Water and Other Supplies Sit Idle Thanks To Unions & Red Tape
Amid Sandy’s devastation, Long Island union sent written demand to Florida utilities: Pay dues or stay home
Georgia power crew turned away from Sandy-stricken New York for refusing to join union
Cuomo orders investigation of utilities post-Sandy
this is Obama’s Katrina and the MSM is giving him a pass….shock!
Michael
November 15th, 2012
5:03 pm
I understand a couple of Tiger Woods’ girl friends have retained counsel. They want to go through the process of being designated Socialites in Florida.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 15th, 2012
5:03 pm
Jay, the fact that the resignation may have had nothing to do with Benghazi does not necessarily mean that there is nothing political about it.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:04 pm
Distractions, distractions…nobody cares who Petraeus was sticking it to. Let the Jews and the terrorists slug it out until there is one left standing. Pay attention to the Cliff!! Sequestration now!! No more passing the buck! Raise all taxes now! Cut defense! Cut all entitlements!!
josef
November 15th, 2012
5:04 pm
OSCAR
The problem is, none of the three want that…on that, they’re agreed…
josef
November 15th, 2012
5:06 pm
NERO
Vive l’anarchie!
getalife
November 15th, 2012
5:06 pm
20 intell reports blamed the movie.
CIA investigating Patraeus on conduct.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
5:06 pm
Oscar
If your goal is “with everyone having equal rights, and equal voting rights and representation. That’s the goal to work toward.” for Gaza and West Bank, why exclude the other countries in the area?
And did you mean to say Gaza, West Bank and Israel should be one state?
Oscar
November 15th, 2012
5:07 pm
josef
November 15th, 2012
4:57 pm
——-
The majority of Israel, excluding the Gaza and West Bank, do not want a one state solution, with everyone having equal rights, but they don’t want Gaza and the West Bank to be separate states either.
One state would be painful, but don’t think anyone really wants two states.
And Gaza and West Bank can’t be one state, they don’t adjoin each other.
East and West Pakistan tried that. It didn’t work.
If Israel really wanted two states, then they would set up borders and respect them, keeping their citizens out of the West Bank. They don’t do that. Conclusion, they don’t want two states.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 15th, 2012
5:08 pm
GT: “When we really have a real crisis the public will be so numb to reality they will not react”
We do have a crisis, right now. Just not the one the elites are telling us it is.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
5:10 pm
DIA — “this is Obama’s Katrina”
How, exactly?
In NOLA, authorities were begging for help DAYS after Katrina hit. And we all saw how Governor Christie praised President Obama for being Johnny-on-the-spot with help so soon after Sandy.
I’m not trying to disagree with you, but I don’t see where you’re drawing your comparison.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:10 pm
Josef,
Not too interested in the ol’ anarchy. Sequestration now! Spread the pain. Change the dynamic. Make the leeches own it. No more passing the buck.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
5:10 pm
“When thesauri are outlawed, only outlaws will have thesauri.”
– Thomas “Webster” Jefferson
Jay
November 15th, 2012
5:11 pm
“How, exactly?”
Because they WANT it to be.
Georgia
November 15th, 2012
5:13 pm
Oprah used to host the Secesh guys all the time, and they’d come on and recruit. They were very offensive, yet Oprah seemed impervious to their innapropriate comments. Finally, she realized that she was giving them an amazing forum, and then shut the visits down. However, sunlight is the best remedy. This organization made it clear that they wanted to seceed and take over the area north of yellowstone. You know, the same land the same Indians were on when we sent Custer to Gall’s School of Cartography. We should let them all go up there, if they got the guts. I wonder if we’ll have to send in Seals?
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
5:14 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
5:10 pm
DIA — “this is Obama’s Katrina”
How, exactly?
In NOLA, authorities were begging for help DAYS after Katrina hit. And we all saw how Governor Christie praised President Obama for being Johnny-on-the-spot with help so soon after Sandy.
I’m not trying to disagree with you, but I don’t see where you’re drawing your comparison.
You have watched the news (not referring to Fox…I swore them off last Wednesday morning…even deleted them from my xm presets), right?
josef
November 15th, 2012
5:14 pm
OSCAR
There is still a majority in Israel in favor of a two-state solution. How long that majority can hold is at question as we were talking about the other night. Jay made a good point, however uncomfortable, that the hardening of attitudes under the current regime in Israel is putting that solution in jeopardy. Again, and just my opinion, what to do about Gaza is the lynchpin and sticking point here…
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
5:14 pm
I think that Israel will not be satisfied until they recover the territory of the
children of Israel but they are in no hurry and for the present want to be
left alone but if required will invade for protection. The Christian desire is
that they suffer in silence until Jesus terminates his extended vacation.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:15 pm
Nobody cares. If Clinton can get pleasured in the Oval Office, then The Director of the CIA can get some strange on the side. Non-issue. Made up indignation. Move on to real issues.
tiredofit
November 15th, 2012
5:18 pm
It seems when Reagan closed the mental hospitals, their party got a lot of new members. They seem to be a lack critical thinking skills.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:18 pm
Let the semites duke it out and take care of their own business. This country needs to attend to it’s own problems.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 15th, 2012
5:19 pm
Have any of our geniuses considered that maybe no single administration has its “own” Katrina, but rather the America that’s taking shape before our eyes is ALL of our Katrinas?
Oscar
November 15th, 2012
5:19 pm
Again, and just my opinion, what to do about Gaza is the lynchpin and sticking point here…
_____
Until the people of Gaza give up on returning and concentrate on building their own state in Gaza, within marked borders, then there will be no solution.
One option is for Israel to invade and occupy Gaza. But then they would be responsible for the care of the people that live there.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 15th, 2012
5:20 pm
Nero: “Let the semites duke it out and take care of their own business. This country needs to attend to it’s own problems.”
Racial much?
josef
November 15th, 2012
5:21 pm
Sandy and Katrina, Obama and Bush…Katrina took place in an area long accustomed to how long it takes to get back on your feet even after a “normal” hurricane. Sandy took place in an area with no experience in dealing with a “normal” hurricane. The Obama administration’s immediate response was good. The Bush administration’s was not. Nothing in the Northeast in the wake of Sandy comes anywhere near the scenes from the Superdome and Civic Center. Comparing the two is not a valid comparison the way I see it. Comparing the immediate federal response? Yes.Comparing the recoveries, we’ll see…
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:22 pm
Occupation,
Both Israelis and Palestinians are semites.
Ignorant much?
Oscar
November 15th, 2012
5:22 pm
I think that Israel will not be satisfied until they recover the territory of the
children of Israel
______
There is a large minority in Israel that thinks that way. But the majority does not.
But those that do think that way have too much power for the majority to make any real progress.
And in the meantime Gaza keeps sending in those rockets and killing people
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
5:23 pm
Nero
“Move on to real issues”
………………
Like when will the prez realize that letting the tax cuts expire will not break his promise
to not raise taxes on the middle class or the Republicans realize that letting the
tax cuts expire is the plan they enacted into law.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
5:26 pm
DIA — “You have watched the news (not referring to Fox…I swore them off last Wednesday morning…even deleted them from my xm presets), right?”
I have.
Look, let’s not play the ‘how-come-you-can’t-see-it-ZOMG-you-must-be-blind game here. We’ve both seen the news reports, so just tell me from your perspective. How is the Obama administration’s response to Sandy at all like the botched response to Katrina?
Where, in your opinion, have the President or Federal agencies fallen short or failed to live up to their responsibilities in regards to Sandy? Just tell me what you think.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:27 pm
Exactly Frog!! Raise taxes on everybody! Spread the pain. Stop passing the buck. We nedd to own this mess and offer up our pound of flesh.
josef
November 15th, 2012
5:29 pm
OSCAR
The problem with Gaza is that it is essentially a huge DP camp…not so the West Bank..the former has little or nothing to work with, the latter has an infrastructure and room to breathe…
MadMax
November 15th, 2012
5:29 pm
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:04 pm
I’d be in agreement that I don’t care who if he was not in the position he was in, but that is not the case. Now that he did it, we have to care about the who, because who knows what information, if any, she learned from him. We also have to worry about who she associates with because of what she might have learned from him. The man was the head of the CIA and it was a threat to national security and should not have taken 6 months to get to Obama’s desk.
Krystal'sBalls
November 15th, 2012
5:30 pm
Speaking from my personal experience, military personnel especially enlisted generally have no real concern for the INDIVIDUAL who occupies the Oval Office. We are trained from the time we get off the bus to follow the orders of the chain of command. We pretty much concern ourselves with the chain of command up through the local command we are assigned to for a tour… and really the base Commanding Officer is a stretch. It is just too complex of an organization to get caught up in political affiliation, personalities and all of that type of garbage. I had service under multiple Presiedents of both parties. Troops generally press on following the lawful orders of the chain. Being conerned and bent out of shape about who all the figureheads are and crap is BOOTCAMP stuff. You need it to pass inspections and finish Basic. Beyond that, service people are concerned about their FAMILIES, CAREER PATHS, and managing the complexities of daily life as a service member, whether inside or outside of a combat theater…and trying to have a little “fun” in the process.
josef
November 15th, 2012
5:32 pm
NERO
Semite is not an ethnicity, but a term coined to refer to language families of which Arabic and Hebrew are the two best known…
DebbieDoRight - Math has a very strong anti-conservative bias
November 15th, 2012
5:33 pm
Some thoughts:
godless: Sad for all involved except for Peaches and The Hussie
d.g.: I heard a comment last week – “He wouldn’t be the first narcissistic 4 star general.” I wouldn’t believe a word Petraeus says. If his judgement is so flawed that he couldn’t resist the temptation to get romantically involved with a predator, then he isn’t fit to lead a den of cub scouts
Blog Goddess:How about when he called himself “A dumbazz” and she said she agreed laughing like it was funny. WOW
There are sooo many reasons that someone would start an affair even though they know what will happen to their lives if they’re caught. One reason can be just simply loneliness. A person is more susceptible to temptation when lonely than at any other time.
Some thoughts on the absurd:
Scout: Hopefully for his own credibility he’ll clear that up but that still won’t clear the Obama administration of attempted cover up or inexcusable incompetence.
No one but you could’ve said something as crazy as that and MEAN it with every fiber in your being. I don’t know whether to be impressed, or scared as hell.
Some thoughts on the profound:
LHU: First cons were apocalyptic that Patraeus had resigned and wasn’t going to testify, speculating that this was conveniently part of a coverup…now that he is testifying they say, ‘ we can’t trust what he says.’ Ya’ll are priceless…
Word!
And the funnies:
Reginald: He might as well have ended the commercial with “I’m Mitt Romney, and I approve this message, because you’re so stupid, you’ll believe it.”
St. Simon: Don’t be deterred by this, cons. Bring the cra-zeee
Welcome to the Occupation
November 15th, 2012
5:33 pm
Nero: “Both Israelis and Palestinians are semites.”
I know. But why the fixation on the racial character of the people involved in the conflict? You refer to it like it’s just some little conflict going on in some far corner of the world with nothing to do with us at all. In fact, we have EVERYTHING to do with it.
Oscar
November 15th, 2012
5:35 pm
josef
No easy solution. Not enough space for people to farm. Only other occupation would be industry. That takes will and capital.
Oscar
November 15th, 2012
5:37 pm
In fact, we have EVERYTHING to do with it.
_______
No, we really don’t. Except that we seem to want to be involved. There are plenty of places with more people who have more problems where we don’t interfere.
josef
November 15th, 2012
5:38 pm
An interesting little sidelight on the Gaza Israeli set to. While Hamas was slinging missiles willy nilly, the Israeli’s were not just leafleting targeted neighborhoods, but CALLING the residents of specific buildings and telling the, essentially, they might want to get the hell out…weird…
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:39 pm
They are both the same people. There is no debate about ethnicity. They are jewish and muslim sides of the same coin. Let ‘em duke it out. One will win, one will lose. Let them solve their own issues.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:40 pm
Americans need to pay attention to the coming Cliff. We need to ready ourselves for the coming pain.
Oscar
November 15th, 2012
5:40 pm
At least when Lee and Johnson surrended, we gave up and rejoined the Union.
Best to know when you can’t win and go one about your business.
Take care.
josef
November 15th, 2012
5:42 pm
NERO
Most, by no means all, Jews and most, by no means all, Arabs are Caucasians in the racial division of humanity. Semitic is NOT a race.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
5:42 pm
DIA, hopefully we can continue the discussion later. My wife’s freaked out about something and I need to go see what’s up.
Probably some hawt news about some bigazz Black Friday sale at her favorite yarn shop. She’ll probably set me back a couple hundred bucks buying a passel of merino wool yarn she’ll end up never actually using.
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
5:45 pm
BP copped a plea.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:51 pm
Josef,
Nothing was said about race. Israelis and Palestinians are the same people. Both are semitic. Both want the same sliver of land. Let them duke it out and may the best one win. It’s that simple.
Sure, double down on conservative crap
November 15th, 2012
5:52 pm
Dave……..Republicans make up facts to stay in the bubble and entertain themselves. Reality is too painful to admit, exhibit A: Mitt Romney, exhibit B, John McCain, exhibit C Bill O’Reilly……….and the list goes on and on.
The truth is Romney lost because his message was bad and he was a bad candidate who came across as the person he is, spoiled rich guy whose daddy bought him everything. He alienated woman, Latinos, Asians, and Blacks. The effort to suppress voting in certain areas by decreasing polling hours and voter ID laws back fired and made voters turn out and stand lines for 7 hours to have their say. Keep your religion out of my uterus and bedroom.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
5:53 pm
BP copped a plea.
Petraeus copped a feel.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:54 pm
They are never going to make peace. Americans need to stop worrying about what they may or may not do. Pay attention to our own back yard.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
5:55 pm
Thanks Kam! I needed that laugh.
F. Sinkwich
November 15th, 2012
5:57 pm
Has O’bozo blamed Bush for this mess yet?
Oh wait, I’m sure someone here has already done that.
My money is on Jammie.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 15th, 2012
6:01 pm
Nero: “Nothing was said about race. Israelis and Palestinians are the same people. Both are semitic. Both want the same sliver of land. Let them duke it out and may the best one win.”
That’s silly. Only one of them has the underwriting of the global military Empire, so it’s kinda, you know, not a fair fight?
Nero
November 15th, 2012
6:03 pm
Sure,
Keep your uterus of this blog. I’m trying to eat dinner here.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 15th, 2012
6:07 pm
Well, all these write-ups and the hullabaloo about the Petraeus affair and the questions about the other general is exactly why I don’t run around with any other women. That, and the fact the missus would twist me up like a pretzel and hang me up on the outside of the door like a Christmas wreath if she ever found out I cheated on her.
Not to mention, I ain’t found any other women interested in me. But there’s something like 5 billion people in this world and there must be one woman out there that would look on old Redneck with lust in her heart.
Anyhow, I’ll just keep reading about Petreaus and dreaming. In a Christian way, of course. Have a good night everybody.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
6:07 pm
Life isn’t fair Occupation. The Palestinians probably should have been less pro-Soviet. It’s never gonna end until one side has won. Pick a side and let the chips fall where they may.
josef
November 15th, 2012
6:14 pm
NERO
Define your use of “semitic.”
Jefferson
November 15th, 2012
6:14 pm
Nero is full
DebbieDoRight - Math has a very strong anti-conservative bias
November 15th, 2012
6:16 pm
Albany: You have watched the news (not referring to Fox…I swore them off last Wednesday morning…even deleted them from my xm presets), right?
Not to be too insensitive – but I thought northerners were supposed to be tough! Didn’t they see the devastation in Florida, Mississippi and Louisiana? Don’t they know in some instances it took WEEKS to get electricity back?
Besides, don’t they know, water and electricity don’t mix? They’re gonna have to WAIT until they get the water out of the area first.
F. Sinkwich
November 15th, 2012
6:17 pm
O’bozo hates the Isrealis and luvs him all them calls to prayer.
Isreal is on its own.
They know it. The whole world knows it.
As a result, lib ilk allies Hamas and Hezbollah are in for some hard times.
DebbieDoRight - Math has a very strong anti-conservative bias
November 15th, 2012
6:19 pm
Redneck: there must be one woman out there that would look on old Redneck with lust in her heart.
Redneck, all you have to do is remember how you got the MIssus’ attention. Did you wear a certain type of cologne? Did you wear super tight jeans? Or…………………
(Forgive me — I can’t help myself)……………………..
Did you tie a pork chop around your neck? Whatever you did before, I’m sure it’ll wok again……..
I know i know………Bad Debbie. Bad. Bad.BAD!!!
josef
November 15th, 2012
6:22 pm
SINKWICH
That’s pure and unadultrated horse sh*t…how is the Obama administration’s Israeli policy any different than what has been in place since 1947?
DDR
I have sympathy for our cousins Up Nawth…they were no more prepared for this than we are for a blizzard…
They BOTH suck
November 15th, 2012
6:23 pm
“SINKWICH
That’s pure and unadultrated horse sh*t…”
Some folks are consistent, that is for sure.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
6:23 pm
Did you tie a pork chop around your neck?
I’m thinkin’ it was a BOGOF coupon to Ryan’s.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 15th, 2012
6:24 pm
DDR
Did you tie a pork chop around your neck? Whatever you did before, I’m sure it’ll wok again……..
———————————————————-
He didn’t tie it around his neck, but it was near his head
Nero
November 15th, 2012
6:28 pm
Semitic as in the Semitic language family. You know, the same two side fighting each other right now. They are the different side of the same coin. Religion is the only thing that separates them.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
6:29 pm
Jefferson,
Did Weezy let you come out to play?
DebbieDoRight - Math has a very strong anti-conservative bias
November 15th, 2012
6:33 pm
josef: I have sympathy for our cousins Up Nawth…they were no more prepared for this than we are for a blizzard…
But josef, they’re acting so…………….uncouth and NORTHERN instead of bearing this fortitude!
Common — you are soooo bad!!! I LIKE it!
DebbieDoRight - Math has a very strong anti-conservative bias
November 15th, 2012
6:34 pm
with fortitude! Sorry.
josef
November 15th, 2012
6:35 pm
NERO
I don’t get it…Hebrew is the national and common language of the Jewish element, but there are still quite a number of the Israeli Jews for whom Ladino, Russian, Kurdish, Persian, English, and any number of other non semitic languages are the home and mother tongue…and religion is not the only thing that separates them…
josef
November 15th, 2012
6:36 pm
DDR
I’m trying to be nice…
Georgia
November 15th, 2012
6:38 pm
Patraeus betrayed himself. We had nothing to worry about. His credibility, then, doesn’t allow us to believe that no classified material was leaked in the writhing it takes to fool CIA director body guards and staff (who claim to be completely surprised). America lost a true stealth ninja. He’s the guy I’d send into Iraq. Geez.
Jay
November 15th, 2012
6:40 pm
“I’m trying to be nice…”
Go easy on him, DDR. He’s out of practice. Or that’s the word, anyway …. :>)
Nero
November 15th, 2012
6:46 pm
Josef,
They are Israeli. They mainly speak Hebrew. A semitic language. The Palestinians speak mainly Arabic. Yet another semitic language. Two different groups of semitic peoples are fighting over the same piece of land. What don’t you get? I realize that you’re trying to bait me with some racial or ethnic construct. That’s wasted energy on your part. They’re both gonna fight until one side wins. Let them fight.
josef
November 15th, 2012
6:49 pm
The world’s ‘poorest’ president…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20243493
josef
November 15th, 2012
6:51 pm
IMAM
Hey, I’ve got my Doddering Old Fool card…
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
6:55 pm
josef
the antiromney
josef
November 15th, 2012
6:55 pm
NERO
Then you are saying that Americans and, oh I don’t know, the Byelorussians are the same people since most of us speak an Indo-European language?
josef
November 15th, 2012
7:01 pm
NERO
Question: am I a semite?
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 15th, 2012
7:01 pm
Josef
Maybe Mitt needs to move there and run for Pres.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
7:03 pm
Only in as far as the Germanic and Balto-Slovic branches have commonality.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
7:05 pm
“The problem with Gaza is that it is essentially a huge DP camp…”
…double penetration? nah, can’t be.
josef
November 15th, 2012
7:06 pm
FROG, COMMON SENSE
I wonder if Mujica takes the three-legged Manuela for a ride atop his VW bug?
josef
November 15th, 2012
7:07 pm
SFD
That’s just plumb baaad…
Nero
November 15th, 2012
7:07 pm
If your native language is Afro-Asiatic in origin, then you could be called semitic.
josef
November 15th, 2012
7:08 pm
NERO
Not Hametic?
Mick
November 15th, 2012
7:08 pm
sink
You speak with forked tongue……ever been to Israel? You fall into that strange category of americans who are more loyal to Israel than they are to the U.S.
If you actually ever made it over there, you might come away with a different picture than just your word of mouth israel pandering…
USA Patriot
November 15th, 2012
7:10 pm
Let’s see, I’ve got tot make a bet tonight…..Israel, Miami, Bills, Virginia. My money….Israel, wipe the idiots out! At least they have more cajones than this administration!
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
7:14 pm
maybe it’s baaad, but I honestly am not getting the abbreviation, sorry!
Nero
November 15th, 2012
7:15 pm
Only if you prescribe your linguistic origins to the sons of Noah.
josef
November 15th, 2012
7:16 pm
SFD
My apologies…Displaced Persons….
Nero
November 15th, 2012
7:16 pm
sorry subscribe
Annie
November 15th, 2012
7:18 pm
What rubbish! It’s not a ‘conspiracy theory’ to question why the administration failed to have the agencies under it respond to an attack on Americans, within its capabilities. Really, the ‘capabilities’ aren’t in question, it’s the failure to enable the response. That’s not conspiracy, that’s hard questions, something your paper and others should be doing.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
7:19 pm
mercy buckets for the uberseztin’.
Sure, double down on conservative crap
November 15th, 2012
7:20 pm
Bubble Boys, considering the waist lines of most old to middle aged white guys out there I am sure you will take it for the team and finish your dinners regardless of the mentioning of female organs. After all, you have more than likely not seem your own organs over those guts in years.
josef
November 15th, 2012
7:21 pm
NERO
The Hametic and Semitic are two related language families…the names were given back in the 19th Century and had more to do with characteristics of linguistical structure and little to do with socio-cultural or ethno-cultural characteristics…
josef
November 15th, 2012
7:22 pm
SFD
Prego…
Old Goober
November 15th, 2012
7:23 pm
Let’s see, I’ve got tot make a bet tonight…..Israel, Miami, Bills, Virginia. My money….Israel, wipe the idiots out! At least they have more cajones than this administration!
Well, Patriot, it’s pretty clear to me you’ve never been a 19-year-old kid aboard a ship when the ammunition is being passed out. I have. It’s pretty easy to be bellicose when you know you won’t have to fight the war. So how are things in the 101st Chairborne?
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
7:24 pm
Unrelated and a little early, but I want to put a plug in for Small Business Saturday. (shopsmall.com)
Support the business in your community. Think globally and act locally, as the libs say.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
7:25 pm
I popped over to the Gallup Presidential Approval center and noticed something new-to-me.
If you stretch out the timescale and follow the “Overall Approval” numbers for a second term–that’d be the average of all the polling they have for all the Presidents since Truman–it dips below 50% somewhere in Quarter 19, and stays there for the remainder. So if Obama’s above 50% after August of 2013, he’ll be doing better than average.
…for those who care about such things.
Orange12
November 15th, 2012
7:25 pm
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/postal-service-reports-record-15-9-billion-loss-1C7099554
The hits just keep on coming.
USA Patriot
November 15th, 2012
7:26 pm
Goober, grab another beer sir! Been that done that, in a different branch. Am enjoying the Chair now!
Get Real
November 15th, 2012
7:27 pm
It is my belief, yes for what it is worth….that we will never find out the truth about Benghazi….it will be “under investigation” for years and the report (if there ever is one) will never explain why the numerous requests for help went unheeded. The MSM will never again do their job if the president in office matches their ideology. Plain, simple and terribly sad…
getalife
November 15th, 2012
7:30 pm
It is my belief we should get the ones responsible for justice and not our President.
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
7:35 pm
Oh great now if we didn’t need anything else is Israel mobilizing and positioning to wage serious ground war. Netanyahu is looking down his nose at an incompetent newly reelected American president. Israel will now do her own thing apart from any cooperation with Washington. If our economic disaster on the not too distant horizon isn’t enough to be concerned with we now have the real possibility of outright war in the M.E.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
7:35 pm
we should get the ones responsible for justice
why that’s crazy talk.
anyway, aren’t you getting a woodie at the prospect of lots of Pallies gettin’ incinderated? I understand that’s the USA Patriot way.
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
7:35 pm
So if Obama’s above 50% after August of 2013, he’ll be doing better than average.
That will mean that things are going well for the Country and that would be a good thing.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
7:36 pm
Actually Hamitic is the term for the non-semitic Afroasiatic languages. Mostly ancient Egyptian and Berber. Additionally Hamitic is no longer used due to phylogenic inconsistencies. So in as far as Semitic and Hamitic languages derived from the mother Non-Indo Euopean language, I guess you can say they are related.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
7:37 pm
“incinderated?” Guess I picked the wrong week to stop sniffin’ glue.
later…
Skip
November 15th, 2012
7:37 pm
I’m happy to see there are so many things more important than some silly old Cliff. Guess it can wait.
Get Real
November 15th, 2012
7:37 pm
Getalife….I want to know who was responsible for killing 4 Americans and I want to know why the extreme requests for help were essentially ignored. If you do not want to know that as well….then that speaks volumes…
Nero
November 15th, 2012
7:41 pm
But it matters little. The Israelis and the Palestinians are never gonna make peace. Never. So let them handle it their own way. Semitic or Hamitic, it matters very little. We should be more concerned about American problems.
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
7:42 pm
Get Real,
The lefts worship of politics above truth when we have lost four Americans murdered in service to our country is outright treason.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
7:42 pm
ah, one other thing, per Atrios:
there’s nothing brave and bold about making “hard choices” about things happening years from now. Those things can be undone, the same way all the serious people believe the brave and bold sequestration deal they cheered on will be undone.
I wish more people would get that ^^ through their thick skulls.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
7:42 pm
Embrace the Cliff!!! It’s coming.
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
7:44 pm
Given last week’s multiple, humiliating defeats, has anyone heard any good stories of Republicans self-deporting yet?
getalife
November 15th, 2012
7:46 pm
get real,
No, you cons just want to get the president.
Get Real
November 15th, 2012
7:46 pm
Scout……I am not quite there with your statement but it saddens me that there is not an outcry from the population as a whole, let alone the MSM
Nero
November 15th, 2012
7:46 pm
JamVet needs a hug bad. C’mere buddy.
josef
November 15th, 2012
7:49 pm
NERO
Actually, I’m enjoying the exchange…don’t make yourself scarce…you’ll have to forgive me for fading out a bit here…I’m fighting off a cold and this is one of those subjects that I’d want a clearer head to continue….
*************************
Cliff? I got some notes left over from high school…
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
November 15th, 2012
7:50 pm
He has been told to testify in a manner that will clear members of the regime, that is the sole purpose of his testimony. It will be leaked and presented as evidence that nothing criminal was done by members of the regime.
Y’all’s relationship with the guy you used to call General “Betray Us” when he worked for Bush has certainly been interesting, if not downright comical.
josef
November 15th, 2012
7:50 pm
ZamVet
Well, a few of them do seem to be getting ready to make aliyah!
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
7:51 pm
Given last week’s multiple, humiliating defeats, has anyone heard any good stories of Republicans self-deporting yet?
Not here. Somebody has to stick around and fix the country.
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
7:52 pm
Me need the hug?
HUGE LOL!
You just got crushed for the third time in four elections and I need a hug?
Good one, meat!
If I need a hug, you need a dozen hookers!
Stay thirsty, my losers.
They BOTH suck
November 15th, 2012
7:52 pm
godless heathen @ 7:24
Great call and reminder to support local business Saturday and whenever possible.
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
7:53 pm
heathen, you hang around buddy.
We need smart Republicans.
But tell Nero/Ben/whatevermeat bon voyage! (grin)
Nero
November 15th, 2012
7:54 pm
Josef,
I am too. But I have to take the dog out and finish cooking dinner. Another time. Until then.
Get Real
November 15th, 2012
7:54 pm
Getalife….I am using your correct name instead of another name so please DO NOT put words in my mouth. Are you saying that the President ordered no respone? If so, then that will have its own consequences. All I want to know is who ignored the requests for help…
TaxPayer
November 15th, 2012
7:55 pm
I see the republicans are still sore losers.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
7:55 pm
Jellyvet
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
November 15th, 2012
7:55 pm
Hey everybody…I went plumb socialist today. Got myself signed up for Medicare and Social Security benefits today. Come this March, I’ll be double dippin’…Social Security on the third week of the month and Navy retirement on the first week of the month. Ain’t America grand?
——
As to the good General….it might have been best that he resigned…
http://cheezburger.com/6767370752
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
7:56 pm
jonix, LOL!
But I doubt that Eretz Israel wants our gentile losers and lowbrow miscreants!
USA Patriot
November 15th, 2012
7:57 pm
Hey, stands! If the “pallies” want to start something, be careful what you ask for!
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
7:57 pm
JamVet,
Why should conservative Republicans self deport? Conservatives have defended this country throughout our history, while the cowardly left have only hid in their fear. We’ll stand and fight and that scares the hell out of the hard left cowards because they know if we did leave there wouldn’t be any of their kind to fill the void of patriots who’ll stand and fight for freedoms they themselves have historically never earned. You’ve won a false victory that many in this country won’t allow you to enjoy.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
November 15th, 2012
8:00 pm
Careful Del,
You’re getting into an area you know nothing about. This “Left-ist” did his time and some under fire.
Be cool now.
getalife
November 15th, 2012
8:04 pm
“All I want to know is who ignored the requests for help…”
The gop general was getting “interviewed”.
getalife
November 15th, 2012
8:06 pm
“You’ve won a false victory that many in this country won’t allow you to enjoy.”
Too late.
It was very enjoyable.
TaxPayer
November 15th, 2012
8:08 pm
Some republicans are more than sore losers. They are also bitter angry old losers.
Obama won,
Cons zero.
Get Real
November 15th, 2012
8:10 pm
Generals are generals, you are avoiding my point which tells me you do nor care….so very sad
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
8:10 pm
Corbin,
Then you should really be applauded because your ideological brothers during the 60’s beat feat up to Canada or managed to find ways to become professional students or take advantage of other loop holes to avoid getting shot at. In more recent times with an all volunteer military those on the left for the most part prefer to enjoy the comforts of staying home and pontificating.
getalife
November 15th, 2012
8:11 pm
If you can’t beat him join him.
You are Americans.
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
8:11 pm
Both:
Great call and reminder to support local business Saturday and whenever possible.
It’s always nicer to go into a store where they are glad to see you.
RB from Gwinnett
November 15th, 2012
8:11 pm
Carry the water, Jay, it’s what you do best…
You know absolutely no more than everybody else reading whatever news this adminsitration is willing to feed us and you have deemed it Bengazi free. Thanks, Jay, but we’ll wait for less partisan sources to look into what’s really going on.
So, new unemployment numbers increased more in Ohio and Penn than in storm ravaged NJ. Funny, libs, I wasn’t aware Sandy wiped out Ohio and Penn to that level.
USA Patriot
November 15th, 2012
8:11 pm
Get – key word you used “was” very enjoyable! AFM!
getalife
November 15th, 2012
8:12 pm
get real,
I stand with our President and troops to get the ones that attacked us in Libya.
USA Patriot
November 15th, 2012
8:13 pm
Correction, was buying a car on Mecum – “AMF”!
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
November 15th, 2012
8:13 pm
Del,
Look at Mitt…he took a missionary deferral and spent the war in that hell hole called Paris France writing love letters in the sand to Ann…in other words it was just liberals who ran.
getalife
November 15th, 2012
8:14 pm
USA.
I will enjoy it for the next four years.
What will you be doing?
Hating it?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
November 15th, 2012
8:14 pm
RB,
Do you get off on other peoples misery? It sure does seem so.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
8:15 pm
Getalife,
Please stand in front when you do.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
8:16 pm
Robert Brown is melting down.
Just sayin’.
They BOTH suck
November 15th, 2012
8:17 pm
Recon
Did you vote for either Isakson or Chambliss?
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
8:17 pm
Get Real,
You have me confused with the real Scout who blogs here. Scout is really a nice guy who attempts to blog with leftists in a kindly manner. I myself am not a nice guy, I’ve tried being a nice guy but it’s never worked out particularly well for me. I’m disliked and maybe even hated on here but I’m unaffected and happy.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
8:18 pm
Generals are generals
Repetition is repetition.
Tautology is saying the same thing, only using different words.
getalife
November 15th, 2012
8:18 pm
“but we’ll wait for less partisan sources to look into what’s really going on”
You will swallow every rw media lie like you always do.
RB from Gwinnett
November 15th, 2012
8:19 pm
Tell us how this increase in UE claims is a good thing like you did the week before the election.
You voted for it, libs. Be happy. You’re getting exactly what you voted for. If you thought employers would roll over and fork out 2K fines without a fight, you thought wrong. Own the UE numbers. They’re all yours.
Get Real
November 15th, 2012
8:19 pm
Getalife….what a douche, I gave you opportunities but you chose Summer’s Eve instead…what a loser
USA Patriot
November 15th, 2012
8:20 pm
Get, nah, no problem, been with these idiots “leading” the country before, just gotta weather the storm. Rig the sails down, stay the course, and watch the MF’s shoot themselves in the foot.
LSU has Ole Miss? In TS? Better win that one!
getalife
November 15th, 2012
8:20 pm
Two melt downs.
TaxPayer
November 15th, 2012
8:21 pm
The tax hikes are coming, the tax hikes are coming. – Paul’s Book of Revered Slogans
getalife
November 15th, 2012
8:21 pm
“LSU has Ole Miss? In TS? Better win that one!”
They will.
getalife
November 15th, 2012
8:23 pm
Own it, own it, own it , blah, blah , blah.
USA Patriot
November 15th, 2012
8:24 pm
18 1/2 spread, should be able to pull it off. Enjoy the game! Always good sparring with you champ!
getalife
November 15th, 2012
8:24 pm
You too USA.
Recon 0311 2533
November 15th, 2012
8:26 pm
Corbin,
I was in Cannes France when the Gulf of Tonkin erupted. Prior to that incident it was Oo La La with the ladies the next day after the incident it was OO La La get the hell out of here with the ladies. Six months later back stateside we got our orders for the Nam. The rest is history in some form or another for all who served during that era.
Nero
November 15th, 2012
8:28 pm
getalife need a hug too. C’mere buddy.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
8:29 pm
Princesses are princesses.
RB from Gwinnett
November 15th, 2012
8:32 pm
Misery, Corbin? How can they be miserable when they got exactly what they voted for? They fully anc oompletely supported these companies doing this to avoid the fleecing. Be happy. All is well….
Get Real
November 15th, 2012
8:43 pm
Recon….my apologies, do not let the turkeys get you down…endeavor to pursevere…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
8:47 pm
pursevere?
Would that be Birkin?
Louie Vuitton?
Hermes?
Marc Jacobs?
Only a Princess would know.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
8:49 pm
Heard this today ……………
“Definition of a Jewish Holiday:
1) They tried to desroy us.
2) They failed.
3) Let’s eat !”
Tundra Dude
November 15th, 2012
8:49 pm
Skip:
I’m happy to see there are so many things more important than some silly old Cliff. Guess it can wait
Right, it can wait. It’s also portable, can be moved down the road, or simply erased from the calendar.
This cliff is no more scientific than that Mayan calendar.
Washington’s Fiscal Cliff Notes
http://bit.ly/PPGHGS
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
8:57 pm
Maxine on the military:
“Let me see if I have this correct.
We spend $600 billion a year on the military. We’ve got over 5,000 airplanes, 8,000 tanks and 1.5 million soldiers, and the terrorists murder our ambassador and three of our military in Benghazi, Libya, because we can’t defend one building.”
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
9:02 pm
get, it was not just a defeat, it was a rout. An old fashioned ass kicking. A beatdown, a clobbering, a drubbing, an embarrassment, a romp, a trashing and a thrashing.
And this makes the third time in the last four elections that the GOP has gotten crushed.
And now the neocons are reeling as their fake conservative ideology is in BIG doggy doo trouble.
Hell, even some of the more lucid con leaders themselves are FINALLY starting to acknowledge that if they don’t change their nasty, backwards, bigoted ways and soon, things are going to get even worse for them.
I do not feel sorry for the most intransigent and intolerant of them. At all. The have worked relentlessy for thirty years to get where they are and now they can lick their self-inflicted wounds and stew in their own trickle down, globally cooled bile for awhile.
And blame everybody but themselves for this hopelessly hijacked GOP debacle they have created..
Of course Romney and Ryan were gonna get splattered!
So for me, the most enjoyable aspect of last Tuesday night’s smackdown was how almost every single one of the worst of their extremists and 1950s nutjobs got sent packing – Walsh, West, Mourdock and Akin among others.
And their new motto for 2014?
Keep Hating Obama Alive!
Good times…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
9:05 pm
Heard this today:
Electoral College
Obama 332
Romney 206
Welcome to the Occupation
November 15th, 2012
9:08 pm
Sandwich: “As a result, lib ilk allies Hamas and Hezbollah are in for some hard times.”
Uh, not necessarily there pardner. Israel may have overplayed its hand here very seriously. That is still a real possibility.
appleseed
November 15th, 2012
9:14 pm
Yes and the whole world the size of Texas.I thought Romney a better person.Cryng Obama won with gifts to certain voters.He appealed to every industry,in every swing state promising more jobs,big cry baby.Never did I expect him to be a poor loser.Obama should send him an OBAMAPHONE as a pacifier.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 15th, 2012
9:16 pm
Well, I see the Chinese Commies named a new leader. Turns out he’s alot like Mitt was. You know, him and his wife started out eating on a ironing board and wearing hand-me-downs and in a couple years they had millions of bucks. I just wish this Won Hung Lo, or whatever the heck his name is—nobody can pronounce those Chinese names—would get together with Mitt and write a book called “How to Be a Multi-millionaire in Two Years While Having Five Kids and Living in a Broom Closet.” Dang it, Mitt could of taught us alot!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
9:16 pm
Andy got banned next door at Kyle’s?
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
9:22 pm
Brother Kam, yep. I didn’t see the post, but Daddy Kyle was not amused.
So now Andy Sinkwich is stuck here for the time being.
He also put Lil Barry on a very short leash.
(Methinks he is tiring of the numbskulls!)
Romney blaming Those People for his drubbing was a wee bit off.
Turns out that some really, really white states voted against him too. (As in 5 of the 11 most white.)
The top five:
Maine, 94% white: Obama
Vermont, 94% white: Obama
New Hampshire, 92% white: Obama
West Virginia, 93% white: Romney
Iowa, 88% white: Obama
Keep Hating Obama Alive – 2014!
They BOTH suck
November 15th, 2012
9:22 pm
Heard this one not so long ago:
Reagan / Carter
@alex
November 15th, 2012
9:25 pm
Note to our President, NEVER tell a former POW of the Hanoi Hilton to “Man UP”
As for “The ” General : which head were you thinking with during the interview…No doubt about it,C.I.A. Director having an affair, Army smart, Person stupid.
Man this is great , with this election we can rid ourselves of gender,age , and race quotas- my children will compete on performance and ability, a meritocracy !! No reason not to start this right away…..Man this is great!
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
9:26 pm
So for me, the most enjoyable aspect of last Tuesday night’s smackdown was how almost every single one of the worst of their extremists and 1950s nutjobs got sent packing – Walsh, West, Mourdock and Akin among others.
Me too. That’s why the Republican Party will be around to cause you angst for some time to come.
As I have stated before, I only wish we had nominated a thumper like Santorum this cycle to take an even worse drubbing. Instead, the CCRWR (that’s Conservative Christian Right-Wing Republicans) sect will be out there in 2016 claiming that the reason we lost the WH in 2012 was that Romney wasn’t Christian enough.
http://youtu.be/si0WTCMrksw
@alex
November 15th, 2012
9:29 pm
Jamvet-you support my final point, right on, pass the Mogen David, shalom…..
Great Times…..
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
9:31 pm
As I have stated before, I only wish we had nominated a thumper like Santorum this cycle to take an even worse drubbing.
As it was stated before several times on this site, Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama. Maybe y’all should’ve nominated him instead.
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
9:35 pm
As it was stated before several times on this site, Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama. Maybe y’all should’ve nominated him instead.
Now Kam, I don’t know about Elmer Fudd, but Bugs Bunny, definitely.
@alex
November 15th, 2012
9:38 pm
@Heathen: agree, but let the left-nut nuts gloat, the pendulum will swing and the arrogant party always overplays it’s hand.History speaks, the politicians play deaf.
Obama to GM, thanks for reciprocating for my presents to you (please try to make a decent car,I don’t think any more bond holders are in the mood to give more “gifts”)
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
9:39 pm
alex, sure after we rid ourselves of misogynists, ageists and bigots, we can work on that!
A HUGE win for the Attorney General and we the people. (People are people, my friends.)
BP will plead guilty to manslaughter charges stemming from the 2010 Deepwater Horizon explosion and oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and agreed to pay $4.5 billion in government penalties, Attorney General Eric Holder announced Thursday.
Of the penalties, $4 billion will resolve criminal charges. An additional $525 million will be paid to resolve claims brought by the Securities and Exchange Commission that BP lied to investors by understating the amount of oil flowing into the Gulf.
Separate from the corporate manslaughter charges, a federal grand jury returned an indictment charging the two highest-ranking BP supervisors on board the Deepwater Horizon on the day of the explosion with 23 criminal counts. The two men were charged with seaman’s manslaughter and involuntary manslaughter for each of the 11 men killed in the blast, as well as a criminal violation of the clean water act.
The grand jury also charged BP’s second-highest ranking representative at the company’s unified command post with hiding information from Congress and allegedly lying to law enforcement officials.
The company also will plead guilty to a felony count of obstruction of Congress, a misdemeanor count under the Clean Water Act and a misdemeanor count under the Migratory Bird Treaty.
Holder said the dollar amount of the penalties and the criminal charges against both the company and individuals are unprecedented.
BP reported a $17.2 billion loss in the quarter when the explosion took place. But it has been profitable since then, booking total profits of $43 billion over the course of the subsequent nine quarters. It will not be able to use the fines to reduce the amount of taxes it owes, Holder said.
BP identified the remaining $1.256 billion of the settlement as a “criminal fine.” More than $1 billion of that fine will go to the U.S. Coast Guard’s Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund, to be available for cleanup — and compensation for those affected by — oil spills in the Gulf .
It is single largest criminal fine on record. The previous record was $1.195 billion criminal fine paid by Pfizer.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
9:39 pm
Earlier today it was alex, and now it’s @alex.
Note to alex, it’s always a good idea to check the spelling of your nom-de-blog after doing the sock-puppet thingie.
Shalom……
Great times…..
@alex
November 15th, 2012
9:40 pm
What about Porky Pig: “th.th..that’s all folks……
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
9:41 pm
@Heathen: agree, but let the left-nut nuts gloat, the pendulum will swing and the arrogant party always overplays it’s hand.History speaks, the politicians play deaf.
Yup.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
9:42 pm
The country is divided roughly 49 to 51.
We will fight on !
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
9:44 pm
Jam:
Where are getting this? I’ve read several news reports about 2 BP employees being indicted on manslaughter charges but nowhere other than here have seen that BP has been indicted.
alex
November 15th, 2012
9:45 pm
Kam, buddy,different laptop–my mistake–you can call me Sasha, I too have taken “the long walk’
@jam, we can start now…since you are a confirmed bigot , but we want to keep you around, please change……..
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
9:46 pm
The country is divided roughly 49 to 51.
Unless your world view is based on what you read here. According to our JB experts, it’s 99.9 to 0.1.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
9:48 pm
Kam, buddy,different laptop–my mistake–you can call me Sasha, I too have taken “the long walk’
That’s the best you got?
Next time why don’t you try, “The dog ate my smartphone”?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
9:49 pm
godless heathen:
LOL !
TaxPayer
November 15th, 2012
9:49 pm
I predict republicans will be forced to actually start paying for their unfunded wars and tax cuts and drug company benefits, etc., instead of passing them off for their children and grandchildren to pay as they had hoped to do.
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
9:50 pm
heathen,
http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/15/news/bp-oil-spill-settlement/index.html?hpt=hp_t4
Fight on, Scout. But the Lily White Party is looking more and more like the modern day Whig Party. With a distinctive McCarthyesque aroma.
Keep up the good work; it is very much appreciated!
TaxPayer
November 15th, 2012
9:52 pm
Obama won,
Cons zero.
appleseed
November 15th, 2012
9:53 pm
Warren Buffett,thinks Hillary Clinton 2016.Also he lived well through the higher taxes of past,and the rich can well afford to pay more.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
9:54 pm
“Petraeus: Resignation has nothing to do with Benghazi”
……… but everything to do with “Bengettin”.
Just sayin’ …………..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
9:54 pm
Obama won.
America lost.
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
9:54 pm
Taxpayer: What is an unfunded war? Did the soldiers and suppliers in recent wars not get paid? My recollection is that the Congress authorized the expenditures for the wars.
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
9:56 pm
“start paying for their unfunded wars ”
Not unfunded. Unbudgeted
appleseed
November 15th, 2012
9:57 pm
Breaking from Newsmax.com
Buffett Wants Clinton White House in 2016
Legendary investor Warren Buffett would like to see Secretary of State Hillary Clinton elected president in 2016.
“I don’t see how you could have anybody better qualified,” he told CNN Wednesday. “I like what she believes in. I think she’s extraordinarily able and energetic for that matter in pushing those beliefs.”
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
9:57 pm
appleseed: …and the rich can well afford to pay more.
And so can you. Be prepared to pony up.
The voters have spoken. “Thank you sir. May I have another?”
Mick
November 15th, 2012
9:58 pm
I’d rather be with the majority in this cycle.
Recon has flipped his lid, what he doesn’t seem to realize is that weeks before the election he was spewing garbage faster than a disposal could shred.
In the end all his noise and predictions were just that, yet he continues on as if he should be taken seriously.
All talk is just that – talk. It’s ok if your actually right about an outcome but when your wrong, just a lot of hot air…
JamVet
November 15th, 2012
9:59 pm
Obama won.
America lost.
I LOVE that strategery!
Talk about paying dividends!
Keep Hating Obama Alive!
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
9:59 pm
Not unfunded. Unbudgeted
Tell TaxPayer, he claims they were unfunded.
What is Obama’s budget for a major ME conflict?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
10:00 pm
“Thank you sir. May I have another?”
Who doesn’t want yet another Nutter Butter Peanut Butter Sandwich cookie?
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
10:01 pm
“What is Obama’s budget for a major ME conflict?
All unbudgeted means is that the costs were not included in the normal allocation bills passed by Congress. They were paid for by the medium of supplemental spending bills.
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
10:02 pm
And every time the subject of the debt comes up, we are reminded here that Congress controls the purse strings. The President can’t spend a dime without Congressional approval.
So which is it?
alex
November 15th, 2012
10:03 pm
Kam, sometimes the simplest answers are the most truthful,like Patreus was horny, Kam is a narcissicist, and Jam is a bigot, nothing complicated-I don’t have a hungry dog, glad to humor you…
Jam, beg your pardon, I have a nice , healthy tan and McCarthy was from Wisconsin, a state you happen to like, good cheese and brats. Agree on the smell though, the ketosis is sickly
taxpayer;something about drug company benefits? whoa man, your heading toward the MENTAL cliff to say nothing of the fiscal cliff….
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
10:04 pm
They were paid for by the medium of supplemental spending bills.
Meaning they were paid for. Included in the annual, never-shrinking deficit spending. Right?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
10:06 pm
Kam, sometimes the simplest answers are the most truthful…
Sometimes I hook up with Candace Swanapoel, at the Holiday Inn Express.
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
10:07 pm
Who doesn’t want yet another Nutter Butter Peanut Butter Sandwich cookie?
I do. And if I can get someone else to pay for it, I’ll take two.
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
10:09 pm
Kam I had to google Candace Swanapoel. You lucky dog!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
10:10 pm
Deficits?
Which brings us to the economic level. The deficits that Bush ran up in the years in which the country was teetering on the verge of a serious recession had the beneficial effect of righting the economy. In that sense, deficits not only didn’t matter, but were a force for economic good.
Translation: IOKIYAR
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
10:10 pm
Enter your comments here
godless heathen
November 15th, 2012
10:11 pm
or don’t. I was try to add a line to my handle.
godless heathen - Support Small Business Saturday
November 15th, 2012
10:14 pm
Kam, And because GWB ran up deficits, Obama should continue to do the same.
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
10:15 pm
“Meaning they were paid for. Included in the annual, never-shrinking deficit spending. Right?”
Spending is spending. But supplemental bills are not included in the official budget. And one of the first things Obama did was put the wars ON the budget, as they should be.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
10:18 pm
Kam, And because GWB ran up deficits, Obama should continue to do the same.
And because it was OK for GWB to run up deficits while teetering on the verge of an economic recession, it’s not OK for Obama to do the same?
alex
November 15th, 2012
10:19 pm
“the” express,,,I AM impressed….
The left is touting the opinion of a lily white old rich guy, Hmmmmm:well if the brilliant one from omaha says so, I say if Hillary were an IPO,I’d buy her………You think she would raise the taxes on her rich old white guy husband, Hmmmmmmmmm
godless heathen - Support Small Business Saturday
November 15th, 2012
10:19 pm
Obama did was put the wars ON the budget, as they should be.
Well goodie for him. If we have another 9/11 we’ll see what happens.
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
10:20 pm
“If we have another 9/11 we’ll see what happens”
Well, we can be pretty damn sure we WON’T invade a country that had nothing to do with it.
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
10:21 pm
And now I’ve got to go. Early day tomorrow.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
10:22 pm
Alright, Lucy Liu is on the small screen playing Dr. Watson to Sherlock Holmes and my attention is divided.
Lucy Liu wins that contest every day and twice on Sunday.
Toodles.
alex
November 15th, 2012
10:25 pm
Wars on BUDGET…something about that just sounds wrong…….I like PEACE on BUDGET! Here’s to getting the hell out of Afganastan, if Alex(ander) the Great couldn’t control the area and the brits (the great game)and the Ruskies,we have no business still being there..))
godless heathen - Support Small Business Saturday
November 15th, 2012
10:25 pm
And because it was OK for GWB to run up deficits while teetering on the verge of an economic recession, it’s not OK for Obama to do the same?
Fine with me. I want to see every penny the Feds spend “on the books”.
Here is a GOA report from March of 2011 outlining ways to control Fed spending a little bit.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11318sp.pdf
Recommendations have been ignored by the Obama administration. Hopefully, now that he is not burdened with campaigning 24/7/365 he can put some effort into these recommendations.
Jm
November 15th, 2012
10:27 pm
Freeeeeeedommmmm!
And Benghazi.
Jm
November 15th, 2012
10:29 pm
“toodles”
Good riddance
TaxPayer
November 15th, 2012
10:30 pm
Tax cuts do not pay for wars any more than they pay for themselves. Republicans will now have the privilege of actually paying for the wars and tax cuts, etc. You can continue to play semantics all you want so long as you pay up. Your children and grandchildren will then be free to create and pay for the debts of their choosing instead of paying for yours.
TaxPayer
November 15th, 2012
10:34 pm
Obama won,
Scout lost.
appleseed
November 15th, 2012
10:35 pm
Private placement probably be better.4 yrs. long time to look ahead.
godless heathen - Support Small Business Saturday
November 15th, 2012
10:35 pm
Well, we can be pretty damn sure we WON’T invade a country that had nothing to do with it.
Post 9/11, GWB identified an axis of evil that he considered a threat to the safety of America. Iraq was one of them. With the bi-partison support from a Democrat Congress and the American people, Saddam Hussien was removed. Picked the low hanging fruit, but it was a fight that was going to be fought one day or another, as Saddam thumbed his nose at UN sanctions imposed after the first Gulf War.
No desire to beat that old horse again, but President Obama should be glad that he doesn’t have to worry about Saddam Hussein.
godless heathen - Support Small Business Saturday
November 15th, 2012
10:37 pm
Republicans will now have the privilege of actually paying for the wars and tax cuts, etc.
And Democrats will have the privilege of actually paying for the welfare state. Have fun.
HoyaLawya
November 15th, 2012
10:39 pm
Right on, Buffett. Clinton/Warren 2016!
TaxPayer
November 15th, 2012
10:43 pm
One trillion dollars to get saddam. Too bad we didn’t get any wmds or bin laden or even any oil or a democracy of bushes making for that yet to be paid for war. Not to worry though. The tax hikes needed to pay for it are finally coming.
TaxPayer
November 15th, 2012
10:49 pm
Democrats passed math. Republicans failed. Democrats know that government expenditures are funded through taxation. Republicans have faith that democrats will eventually gain control and fix the messes that republicans create.
Jm
November 15th, 2012
10:53 pm
“And Democrats will have the privilege of actually paying for the welfare state. Have fun.”
I wish….
Oscar
November 15th, 2012
11:30 pm
I’m beginning to think it may be better to go off the cliff. Raise the taxes back to where they were when Clinton was President. All the cuts were supposed to be temporary in the first place. That was Bush’s plan. And time is up.
Temporary is over.
JKL2
November 15th, 2012
11:33 pm
oscar- Their job is to follow his orders, not to think. There was a reason the writers of the constitution put the civilian government in control of the mili.tary.
Spoken like a true coward who never served. No wonder obama’s your hero…
JKL2
November 15th, 2012
11:42 pm
joe mama- Soldiers and veterans are also told and trained to be truthful, even when the truth is difficult or will cast the soldier or his/her fellows in a bad light
So what’s your excuse? Parent’s fault , inability to learn, or are you blaming it on ptsd?
With all this crying and whining you’re going to have to change your name to” joe baby”.
Uh-oh
November 15th, 2012
11:44 pm
It looks like our President is preparing to throw seniors under the bus in this avoiding the fiscal cliff thing,
JKL2
November 15th, 2012
11:49 pm
getalife- You speak for the troops?
Since I am one, every word that comes out of my mouth is “for them”.
getalife
November 15th, 2012
11:51 pm
jk,
Some voted for our President.
You don’t speak for them.
JKL2
November 15th, 2012
11:51 pm
taxpayer- Democrats passed math. Republicans failed
Is that why Demwits always call tax increases “spending cuts”?
Oscar
November 15th, 2012
11:56 pm
Since I am one, every word that comes out of my mouth is “for them”.
____
Like I said, your job is not to think. Good thing, since you can’t manage to.
That’s the reason civilians are in control. To protect the country from people like you.
JKL2
November 15th, 2012
11:57 pm
getalife- Some voted for our President. You don’t speak for them.
What part of “vast majority think he is a POS” do you not understand? joe baby says the way to tell if someone is a good leader is to talk to the people under them. Unless they are the president, then the people are too stupid to have an opinion.
JKL2
November 16th, 2012
12:03 am
oscar- That’s the reason civilians are in control. To protect the country from people like you.
My job is to protect sheeple like you from yourselves. You’re like one of those parents who kills their kid because “they love them too much”.
getalife
November 16th, 2012
12:05 am
jk,
President Obama won.
Move on private.
JKL2
November 16th, 2012
12:05 am
joe- I don’t know if JKL graduated from a service academy, but given his behavior this afternoon, I can’t imagine that he did.
Didn’t graduate there, but I was an instructor.
getalife
November 16th, 2012
12:07 am
“You’re like one of those parents who kills their kid because “they love them too much”.”
That is weird.
JKL2
November 16th, 2012
12:12 am
getalife- obama won
I would call him a lame duck, but I don’t know how he could get any lamer than he already has been. You can only golf so much.
getalife
November 16th, 2012
12:16 am
jk,
Peace and prosperity are coming.
Chin up.
JKL2
November 16th, 2012
12:23 am
getalife- Peace and prosperity are coming.
Keep dreaming. Nothing but rainbows and unicorns here in obamaland…
Oscar
November 16th, 2012
12:28 am
My job is to protect sheeple like you from yourselves. You’re like one of those parents who kills their kid because “they love them too much”.
____
Earlier today you so much as called President Obama a POS.
And you claim to speak for the troops and to wear a uniform. That makes you a disgrace to the uniform and to the country.
I don’t think you have a brain, much less know how to use it.
Oscar
November 16th, 2012
12:28 am
My job is to protect sheeple like you from yourselves. You’re like one of those parents who kills their kid because “they love them too much”.
____
Earlier today you so much as called President Obama a POS.
And you claim to speack for the troops and to wear a uniform. That makes you a disgrace to the uniform and to the country.
I don’t think you have a brain, much less know how to use it.
JKL2
November 16th, 2012
12:34 am
oscar- Earlier today you so much as called President Obama a POS. And you claim to speak for the troops and to wear a uniform. That makes you a disgrace to the uniform and to the country.
No, just embarrassed to have an idiot for a boss. I have lawn furniture that shows more leadership than obama. The great orator doesn’t have any interpersonal communication skills. I would have to kick him out for an honor code violation after that last press conference.
How come Mr Transparency took 8 months to hold a press conference?
appleseed
November 16th, 2012
1:03 am
Ackerman went on to say that Republicans had “the audacity to come here” when the administration requested, for worldwide security, “$440 million more than you guys wanted to provide. And the answer is that you damn didn’t provide it! You REDUCED what the administration asked for to protect these people. Ask not who the guilty party is, it’s you! It is us. It is this committee, and the things that we insist that we need have to cost money.”
Fred ™
November 16th, 2012
2:25 am
No, just embarrassed to have an idiot for a boss. I have lawn furniture that shows more leadership than obama. The great orator doesn’t have any interpersonal communication skills. I would have to kick him out for an honor code violation after that last press conference.
If you really WERE military, you would be subject to disciplinary action under the Code of Military Justice for that statement. But you aren’t military and you have zero honor and integrity.
seabeau
November 16th, 2012
4:59 am
I wish Obama would resign over bengazi,fast and furious,telling the justice dept. not to prosecute the laws of the land(Per his oath of office) .
stands for decibels
November 16th, 2012
5:51 am
mornin’.
>>As it was stated before several times on this site, Elmer Fudd could defeat Obama. Maybe y’all should’ve nominated him instead.
>Now Kam, I don’t know about Elmer Fudd, but Bugs Bunny, definitely.
If memory serves, Bugs Bunny *never* lost to anyone.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 16th, 2012
5:56 am
sfd
Elmer Romney will go down in history along with John McCain as getting their butts kicked by a Kenyan Marxist
Wake up
November 16th, 2012
6:21 am
Who would tie his resignation to Benghazi? You would not resign from something like that until enough damning evidence was put out there. We are still in the coverup and CYA phase of this one. Give it a few months…..
JamVet
November 16th, 2012
6:26 am
Since I am one, every word that comes out of my mouth is “for them”.
What an arrogant, childish little man.
Republicans and their post-election meltdowns are always fun to watch…
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think
November 16th, 2012
6:44 am
Good, good Friday morning all y’all…I do love sleeping in on a Friday morning!
Saw this and squirted coffee out my nose…
http://cheezburger.com/6767471872
Georgia
November 16th, 2012
6:44 am
W just tweeted: Fiscal Cliff: the war tax cuts are set to expire. There’s still a war, aint there? Then keep the war tax cuts which will support the troops, and then we catch the dictator who perpetrated the second 911, Castro. #W
Jay
November 16th, 2012
6:50 am
That’s well-done and witty, Corbin.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 16th, 2012
6:56 am
JAY
You gonna put something out there about the obligatory renewed killing in and around Gaza today?
I for one, would like to see a significant change in our postioning with Israel…can we expect another 60 years of killing? If so, we should no longer de facto have any more blood on our hands..
gtt
November 16th, 2012
7:04 am
Mrs. Broadwell is lovely.
sirwinston
November 16th, 2012
7:25 am
John McCain started a fire that he himself did not show up to put out! Then he fail to meet the President challenge by telling him or wanted to accuse him he knew about the accident. Then he went at Susan Rice talking about not support her if she is elected or recommended for the position as Seceretary of State. McCain is like a little wind trying to create a lot of dust but when it start he somehow make excuses and don’t show or fail to deliver. He want to be a big person but the public have seen how he manage to not follow through. McCain cannot brush off his defeat trying to be the president of the US. Really, he want’s to blame Sarah for his lost and but take’s it out on other women. We all agree that it is time for McCain to go and not serve this country again for he is not in his right mind.
Finn
November 16th, 2012
7:29 am
and the attack was all about a video.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 16th, 2012
7:31 am
McCain….When questioned about missing the Benghazi briefing blew a gasket.
He asked the reporter “Who the hell are you …..?”
The reporter, like me, like all of you, pay his freaking salary.
That’s who the hell we are, you (@#^$#^#$$%~~!!!!)
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 16th, 2012
7:32 am
(@#^$#^#$$%~~!!!!)= Mr. Silly Pants
stands for decibels
November 16th, 2012
7:35 am
That’s well-done and witty, Corbin.
“We hold our inability to accept the truth to be self-evident…”
[golf clap]
St Simons - he-ne-ha
November 16th, 2012
7:37 am
Corbin, I know who you were…
my sixth sense took too long. i’ll have to see josef for a tuneup
stands for decibels
November 16th, 2012
7:37 am
He asked the reporter “Who the hell are you …..?”
I thought this might be a joke, but…
http://gawker.com/5961030/john-mccain-explodes-after-cnn-reporter-asks-him-why-he-didnt-attend-benghazi-briefing-who-the-hell-are-you
stands for decibels
November 16th, 2012
7:40 am
Clinton/Warren 2016!
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I was wondering about the next Supreme Court vacancy.
Is Alan Grayson too old?
stands for decibels
November 16th, 2012
7:41 am
jeez, dead-threaded by lunacy SHEETZ.
JKL2
November 16th, 2012
8:31 am
fred- If you really WERE military, you would be subject to disciplinary action under the Code of Military Justice for that statement. But you aren’t military and you have zero honor and integrity.
If I was doing this in public while wearing a uniform you would be correct. Guess that makes you 0-2.
Please continue to lecture me on topics you are totally clueless on. I will keep defending your right to remain uneducated and proud of it.
Jay
November 16th, 2012
8:52 am
Well, this thread has given me a depressing answer to my question. Why don’t GOP leaders denounce — and instead encourage — this kind of nonsense? Because it’s what its base wants to hear.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 16th, 2012
9:20 am
JKL — “So what’s your excuse? Parent’s fault , inability to learn, or are you blaming it on ptsd?”
Since I’m not being dishonest and you are, I require no excuse. You certainly could do with one, though.
“With all this crying and whining you’re going to have to change your name to” joe baby”.
And we’ll change yours to “Stuck Pig,” because a stuck, dishonest pig will certainly squeal its chitlins out, just as you have done. Besides, the only crying I see here is your own, clearly due to the fact that your patent dishonesty and fabulism’s been called out for what it is and you’ve got no defense for it.
When you’re ready to strap on a pair of stones and admit that your 98% figure was total bullspit, I’ll be glad to accept your apology, concession and surrender. (laughing, pointing)
Joe Hussein Mama
November 16th, 2012
9:22 am
JKL — “Since I am one, every word that comes out of my mouth is “for them”.
So am I. And you’re unauthorized to speak for anyone except yourself.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 16th, 2012
9:23 am
JKL — “Didn’t graduate there, but I was an instructor.”
Pugil dummy. (giggling)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pugil_sticks
Joe Hussein Mama
November 16th, 2012
9:25 am
Fred — “If you really WERE military, you would be subject to disciplinary action under the Code of Military Justice for that statement. But you aren’t military and you have zero honor and integrity.”
This. JKL’s military like I’m married to Christina Hendricks.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 16th, 2012
9:31 am
JKL — “If I was doing this in public while wearing a uniform you would be correct. Guess that makes you 0-2.”
Wrong. All that’s necessary is for you to be on active duty or in a Reserve component — which you’ve already claimed to be — and *identifiable by name.* So that makes *you* 0 and 3.
“Please continue to lecture me on topics you are totally clueless on.”
How ironic of you. (laughing, pointing)
“I will keep defending your right to remain uneducated and proud of it.”
I love when cons get caught out lying and go all indignant on you. It’s like one of those Australian hissing lizards with the big ruff that pops out around their neck.
DownInAlbany
November 16th, 2012
1:35 pm
Former CIA Director David Petraeus stoked the controversy over the Obama administration’s handling of the Libya terror attack, testifying that references to “Al Qaeda involvement” were stripped from his agency’s original talking points — while other intelligence officials were unable to say who changed the memo, according to a top lawmaker who was briefed.
And, the saga continues…will we ever know the truth?
JKL2
November 16th, 2012
5:09 pm
jamvet- Republicans and their post-election meltdowns are always fun to watch…
I said for months the 47% and party of handouts would win. Stop trying to project yourself onto me.
JKL2
November 16th, 2012
5:14 pm
joe baby- When you’re ready to strap on a pair of stones and admit that your 98% figure was total bullspit, I’ll be glad to accept your apology, concession and surrender. (laughing, pointing)
You already proved my point as valid. Why are you still whining?
Putting smiley faces behind every line does nothing for your credibility. Do you do that because you get your news from Comedy Central?
JKL2
November 16th, 2012
5:27 pm
joe- All that’s necessary is for you to be on active duty or in a Reserve component — which you’ve already claimed to be — and *identifiable by name.* So that makes *you* 0 and 3.
Completely wrong. I’ll be kind and blame it on your brain injury.