Petraeus: Resignation has nothing to do with Benghazi

In off-camera and apparently rather poignant conversations with Kyra Phillips of CNN and Headline News, David Petraeus has made it clear that his resignation as CIA director has everything to do with his own personal failings, and nothing whatsoever to do with the tragedy in Benghazi and its aftermath:

As Phillips recounted the conversations:

“He has said this has nothing to do with Benghazi and he wants to testify. He will testify. He has maintained to me all along this was a personal failing, Robin, which, as I said, to me was quite stunning and to many other people. He’s not the type of person that I’ve ever known to fail at anything, knowing [him] as long as I have over the years. And so he has made it very clear that this was about an extramarital affair and not over classified information or Benghazi.”

Of course, there is no expectation that such statements will quell the conspiracy theorists. The hunger to believe overwhelms rationality for some. But there it is nonetheless.

– Jay Bookman

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 15th, 2012
3:25 pm

P.S.

Has Obama “specifically” answered this question:

“When” (what date) did you first know of the Petraeus investigation?

barking frog

November 15th, 2012
3:26 pm

St. Simons 3:22
I think that the’ corporations are people’ originated in a supreme court case in the !800s
allowing an individual to sue a railroad.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 15th, 2012
3:27 pm

Paul — “FYI, we’d already established with the multipage on ‘EVERY federal manager is governed by THE REG on adultery and EVERY OTHER federal manager would have been fired, but oh no, not CLINTON!!”

Given that I didn’t vote for Clinton — either time — I have no idea what you think you just established.

“There is a pattern there – and you nailed it. Thanks.”

Actually, I think what you’ve nailed is your foot to the floor. :D

getalife

November 15th, 2012
3:27 pm

I saw her on the Daily Show and thought there was something different about her.

She was doing the General so he did have sexual relations with that woman.

The only scandal is a republican General.

DownInAlbany

November 15th, 2012
3:28 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 15th, 2012
3:23 pm

It is my understanding his testimony will be “behind closed doors” (pun intended) so we will probably never know exactly what he does testify to.

None of these folks want to comment on that point, there, my multi-digit friend!

getalife

November 15th, 2012
3:28 pm

scout,

When will you stop wanting to get our President?

You look silly scout.

Peadawg

November 15th, 2012
3:28 pm

“he cheated on his wife and everything he says is true?”

Very good point. This guy is a complete scumbag. Not sure I believe anything he says.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 15th, 2012
3:29 pm

Senior Digits seems to be ducking the question about whether he has signed a petition to secede

bookman parrot

November 15th, 2012
3:29 pm

Jay says it,… well, it has to be true then ….

St Simons

November 15th, 2012
3:29 pm

ok, bf, i’ll take your word for it – we were busy back then.

bookman parrot

November 15th, 2012
3:30 pm

forgot to say that Jay is totally unbiased and has no agenda ever…. just the facts ….

Citizen of the World

November 15th, 2012
3:32 pm

This may seem like just so much semantics, but I am so weary of the suppositions and speculations about this and other events that I will parse words nonetheless.

The cat says “I’m convinced his lover is a double agent.” By which expert or by what evidence were you “convinced”?

Or are you just speculating? If that’s the case, say, “I’m speculating his lover is a double agent.”

JamVet

November 15th, 2012
3:32 pm

This bizarre, self-destructive penchant of the right wing is finally paying dividends…

barking frog

November 15th, 2012
3:33 pm

St Simons
just agreeing that it could indeed be the defense that BP will make, that corps
are not people and cannot be held criminally liable.

They BOTH suck

November 15th, 2012
3:33 pm

Was Petraeus supposed to be questioned in a closed or open door forum before this fiasco came to light?

stands for decibels

November 15th, 2012
3:34 pm

None of these folks want to comment on that point

I daresay few of us get much enjoyment from taunting Scout. We’ve most of us been there/done that.

The joke’s only funny a few times, then it’s just kind of sad, because he appears to actually believe the crap he posts.

DownInAlbany

November 15th, 2012
3:34 pm

Something that I think is lost in the fog of dems vs reps is that the FBI apparently spied on Petraeus and his / their emails. If the FBI can do this to Petraeus, they can do it to ANYONE. Does that bother anyone?

Jay

November 15th, 2012
3:37 pm

Yes, DIA, it bothers me. I’m just waiting to get a few things clarified before weighing in on it, however.

Banderson

November 15th, 2012
3:37 pm

Was Petraeus supposed to be questioned in a closed or open door forum before this fiasco came to light?
******************************************************

Don’t know the answer to that question, but it would seem that, if you were going to testify about what the CIA knew, which might give away how they were keeping tabs on things and who might be working for them in Libya, you might want it behind closed doors.

barking frog

November 15th, 2012
3:37 pm

Down in Albany
The FBI can do anything it wants. Whether what it finds can be used in court is a different
matter.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 15th, 2012
3:37 pm

DIA — “If the FBI can do this to Petraeus, they can do it to ANYONE. Does that bother anyone?”

Hell, no.

If anything, I feel sorry for the poor CIA dude who has to listen to my phone conversations with my doctors. Lots of icky medical details. :D

RAMZAD

November 15th, 2012
3:38 pm

My first question is:

Where was Republican outrage when Bush, Cheney, Bolton, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Rove, Libby, Rice and all those intellectual lightweights were lying about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, and Saddam’s foray into Yellow Cake uranium from Niger, Saddam’s complicity with Al Queda in 9/11, and outing a CIA agent for propaganda dividends? Are Republicans truly that disingenuously greasy as to be looking political hay out of Benghazi? Maybe that all that was too long ago and we liberals should forget about it.

Another question is:
Where were the Republican wise men when twenty two bit terrorists came to America and committed a group of massacres like nothing the world has ever seen? Benghazi is in Libya. New York is on the Hudson River.

Constructive Feedback

November 15th, 2012
3:41 pm

Mr Bookman:

Do you notice that you and the rest of the media (on both sides of the bias) have spent more time debating General Patreaus’ “Sexcapades” than you bothed to inspect President Obama’s original claim that the NATO lead hit upon Libya was actually a “Humanitarian Mission” OR ask why the American CIA had operatives in Cuba?

Gone are the days when the American CIA in South America with the coordination of rightwing foreign policy operative Otto Reich drew the attention of you and Amy Goodman of “Democracy Now”.

Indeed you have “Changed”, sir.

DownInAlbany

November 15th, 2012
3:42 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

November 15th, 2012
3:37 pm

DIA — “If the FBI can do this to Petraeus, they can do it to ANYONE. Does that bother anyone?”

Hell, no.

If anything, I feel sorry for the poor CIA dude who has to listen to my phone conversations with my doctors. Lots of icky medical details.

Especially the Urologist and Protologist! :)

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 15th, 2012
3:42 pm

DownInAlbany

November 15th, 2012
3:28 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 15th, 2012
3:23 pm

It is my understanding his testimony will be “behind closed doors” (pun intended) so we will probably never know exactly what he does testify to.

.
.
.
Are you telling the whole blog that you think there should be so much transparency that the government should not keep anything secret?

Got Launch Codes?

Besides, they’ll be GOP legislators in the hearing so if there’s any thing for “you people” to salivate over you can bet your shiney hiney
it’ll be leaked.

JKL2

November 15th, 2012
3:42 pm

joe mama- I’ve always found the best assessment of an officer to come from his or her troops. Ask them, ‘would you go to war with Captain/Colonel/General Hufflepuff’ and you’ll be able to determine that officer’s worth from the collective responses of the troops under his or her command

Evidently you exclude the Commander-in-Chief from your poll…

Jay

November 15th, 2012
3:43 pm

“The FBI can do anything it wants. Whether what it finds can be used in court is a different
matter.

As this case demonstrates, there are many ways of destroying someone short of a courtroom.

skipper

November 15th, 2012
3:44 pm

Whether you are a lib/conservative, or left-handed one-eyed Ethiopian co-pilot it is really kinda simple…..the plain truth is that ole “booger” has claimed another one!! It will bring a man down…..black,white,rich,poor, Dem, Repub, Independent, or whatever!!lol

Jay

November 15th, 2012
3:45 pm

Also, the hearings originally scheduled for this week were closed-door. They only did the previous hearing in open session so they could wring election-day coverage from it.

Paul

November 15th, 2012
3:48 pm

JHM

I was referring to 0311’s penchant for stating opinion as fact, then the segue into what ought to be as that’s how he sees it, also stated as fact.

But good luck. It’s kinda like watching deja vu all over again.

Ben Shockley

November 15th, 2012
3:48 pm

The resignation was about adultery. Not testifying about the Benghazi fiasco is just a freebie. Look for some well-heeled Democrat fundraiser to get Petraeus a highly-compensated “consulting” job in the near future in exchange for making himself scarce during the Benghazi hearings.

josef

November 15th, 2012
3:50 pm

For the love of G-d, Israel and Gaza are on the brink of all out war, flinging missiles at each other so fast they can’t be counted and we are fixated on a pack of sleazeballs. Have we really lost our bearings to this point?

clem

November 15th, 2012
3:50 pm

shame someone could not make you scarce

Jay

November 15th, 2012
3:51 pm

Josef:

And nothing we say or do on this side of the ocean can affect that a whit.

Paul

November 15th, 2012
3:52 pm

DownInAlbany

” If the FBI can do this to Petraeus, they can do it to ANYONE. Does that bother anyone?”

Yeah. My first post on the matter – you have a friend in the FBI, you tell him you got emails that made you feel uncomfortable, that’s all it takes to get an investigation going? Then if it pans out there’s no threat, they keep on digging because of who the person is? What was the basis for issuing a warrant? Where’s the judicial oversight? Those guys didn’t even know enough in this case to know they were required to notify the appropriate Congressional committees?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 15th, 2012
3:52 pm

JKL — “Evidently you exclude the Commander-in-Chief from your poll…”

The CINC doesn’t share the hardships of the troops in the field, regardless of his political party. A company/battalion/division commander does.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 15th, 2012
3:53 pm

Paul — “JHM I was referring to 0311’s penchant for stating opinion as fact, then the segue into what ought to be as that’s how he sees it, also stated as fact. But good luck. It’s kinda like watching deja vu all over again.”

OIC. I can dig it. Thanks much for clarifying. :)

Ben Shockley

November 15th, 2012
3:53 pm

“Something that I think is lost in the fog of dems vs reps is that the FBI apparently spied on Petraeus and his / their emails. If the FBI can do this to Petraeus, they can do it to ANYONE. Does that bother anyone?”

My employer can legally spy on anything I do using company property, i.e. my company-owned laptop. I imagine Petraeus’s employer (the U.S. government) can legally do the same.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 15th, 2012
3:54 pm

Good Fight @ 3:29

Nope ……… have not.

JKL2

November 15th, 2012
3:54 pm

josef- For the love of G-d, Israel and Gaza are on the brink of all out war, flinging missiles at each other so fast they can’t be counted and we are fixated on a pack of sleazeballs. Have we really lost our bearings to this point?

Are you waiting on obama to file civil rights violations against Isreal thru the UN or should he just start bombing them like Egypt and Libya?

skipper

November 15th, 2012
3:55 pm

@Jay and Josef…..
As I said before, if we (mainly LBJ) had left Israel alons during the 6-day war, we would not have all the problems over there now. They had the means and power to handle that cesspool over there.

Paul

November 15th, 2012
3:55 pm

josef

” Have we really lost our bearings to this point?”

FIrst presidential press conference in about 8 months and what did the press lead with?

Doggone/GA

November 15th, 2012
3:55 pm

“Have we really lost our bearings to this point?”

And people are dying of starvation. People are being tortured. People are suffering from natural disasters. What, exactly, would you have us do? If you don’t like the direction of the discussion…you don’t have to participate.

skipper

November 15th, 2012
3:55 pm

p.s. that’s “alone” not “alons!” lol

JamVet

November 15th, 2012
3:56 pm

Evidently you exclude the Commander-in-Chief from your poll…

(2 has the inside scoop, doncha know? That’s what his endless, exhaustive research has gotten him…)

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November 15th, 2012
3:56 pm

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Amid Sandy’s devastation, Long Island union sent written demand to Florida utilities: Pay dues or stay home

Georgia power crew turned away from Sandy-stricken New York for refusing to join union

Cuomo orders investigation of utilities post-Sandy

josef

November 15th, 2012
3:57 pm

JAY

Nor can what we say here about this pail of hogwash…this, imeoiauo, just another of the 1001 games to play while waiting for Armageddon…I guess I just am old fashioned and had rather keep my pornography under the mattress… :-)

Jay

November 15th, 2012
3:58 pm

For what it’s worth, I have no trouble whatsoever with Israel taking out the Hamas commander in retaliation for rocket strikes. Good move. But there is such a thing as overreaction ….

JKL2

November 15th, 2012
3:58 pm

joe mama- The CINC doesn’t share the hardships of the troops in the field, regardless of his political party. A company/battalion/division commander does.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. FWIW, 98% think the CINC is POS.

East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)

November 15th, 2012
3:59 pm

FBI can monitor my emails or text messages all they want. This morning they would have discovered that my household has clean laundry and hoagie rolls.

What creeps me out is that street view feature on Google maps.

josef

November 15th, 2012
3:59 pm

Okay, y’all. then let’s talk about who’s b’ f’ing who.. I mean, if we’re going to do it, then let’s go full tilt boogie with it…

Doggone/GA

November 15th, 2012
4:02 pm

“Okay, y’all. then let’s talk about who’s b’ f’ing who.. I mean, if we’re going to do it, then let’s go full tilt boogie with it”

blogspot.com is ready when you are

Joe Hussein Mama

November 15th, 2012
4:02 pm

JKL — “Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. FWIW, 98% think the CINC is POS.”

I don’t think you’re in a position to speak for troops or veterans. In fact, I think your ‘poll results’ are even less worthwhile than the ones done by that Dean Chambers “Unskewed Polls” dipspit.

So just pipe down until you have something substantive and worthwhile to add, k?

Jay

November 15th, 2012
4:03 pm

and Skipper:

“As I said before, if we (mainly LBJ) had left Israel alone during the 6-day war, we would not have all the problems over there now. They had the means and power to handle that cesspool over there.”

A., it’s probably incorrect to believe that would have changed a damn thing, especially some 45 years later.

B. We pulled Israel off because if we didn’t, the Soviets had made it perfectly clear that they were going to intervene militarily. Which meant that we would have had to intervene militarily. Which meant WWIII.

Maybe you think that would have been a good idea nonetheless. I do not.

barking frog

November 15th, 2012
4:04 pm

Jay

November 15th, 2012
3:43 pm

“The FBI can do anything it wants. Whether what it finds can be used in court is a different
matter.

As this case demonstrates, there are many ways of destroying someone short of a courtroom.

…………………………………………………………………….
True. an op ed column can work just as well.

josef

November 15th, 2012
4:04 pm

DOGGONE

And just where would you suggest I go? I’m not talking just about the blog and us here, I’m talking about the 24/7 on this story with nothing of substance beyond prying into what should have been the peccadillos of any of those of us here today…

Paul

November 15th, 2012
4:04 pm

josef

Bad day at the office?

As long as the non-Israel neighbors do not condemn and move against Hamas and others, peace is a lonnnnnng way off.

josef

November 15th, 2012
4:05 pm

DOGGONE

Ain’t you just full of repeat one liners today! :-)

Paul

November 15th, 2012
4:06 pm

sorry, josef, thought you were still on Israel and Gaza.

They BOTH suck

November 15th, 2012
4:07 pm

josef

Why the uproar? This is nothing new. It sells every day, all day. Why would it be selling and being bought any less with the head of the CIA being involved? Like it or not, it is going to sell more.

Not saying I totally agree with it, but it is what it is.

Krystal'sBalls

November 15th, 2012
4:07 pm

I say we let Israel and Palestine duke it out and stay the hell out of it. Sibling spat it is and they need to get their differences worked out. If they never do, so be it. Frankly, I’m long past sick of it.

josef

November 15th, 2012
4:07 pm

PAUL
No, actually it was a very good one. Today was our parents day Thanksgiving luncheon…

Paul

November 15th, 2012
4:09 pm

josef

Glad it was a nice one just before the holiday break.

getalife

November 15th, 2012
4:10 pm

Looks like another war in Gaza.

Live airstrike on cnn.

East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)

November 15th, 2012
4:11 pm

I say we let Israel and Palestine duke it out and stay the hell out of it. Sibling spat it is and they need to get their differences worked out. If they never do, so be it. Frankly, I’m long past sick of it.

Second that. I doubt Syria and Egypt are in position to get involved. So long as Iran stays out it, let them settle it amongst themselves.

Doggone/GA

November 15th, 2012
4:11 pm

“And just where would you suggest I go?”

What part of “blogspot.com” did you not understand? Josef…you’ve been around here long enough to know that if you have something to discuss you post and if it sparks interest we’ll discuss it. Berating us for NOT discussing something is just dumb. And just exactly what would YOU have done about what is going on between them?

As I see it there’s a bottom-line limit to what can be done. Sooner or later THEY are going to have to either work it out, or destroy each other because they’re too locked into ideology to THINK.

You know as well as anyone if we intervene on Israel’s side in this, it will just add fuel to the fire of extremists that already hate us for supporting them. And if we intervene on the side of the Palestinians we could very well end up in aother nation building exercise..and I REALLY don’t think we…or the world…is quite ready for us to invade that are like we did Iran.

Ben Shockley

November 15th, 2012
4:14 pm

JHN @ 4:02…

Military personnel call themselves Republican at about 50%, Democrat at about 15%.

http://www.quora.com/United-States-Armed-Forces/Why-is-the-American-military-overwhelmingly-conservative

Guess they’re happy to speak for themselves……..

josef

November 15th, 2012
4:14 pm

As for Israel and Hamas…I really am interested in hearing what y’all have to say about that…

This is, I think, more than just a Gaza-Israel thing…Hamas is on the ropes in Syria and Lebanon and is, as we know, Iran’s surrogate. This may well be a prelude to a much wider set of actions which, as we are hearing already from Washington, pretty much has our government’s seal of approval. I’m not sure if Barack hasn’t turned loose our little feist to do our dirty work for us again. Bibi’s acting awfullly coksure…

Erwin's cat

November 15th, 2012
4:15 pm

I got nothin’

Ben Shockley

November 15th, 2012
4:16 pm

Military Times Poll: Romney bests Obama, 2-1

Economy, not military issues, tops concerns
By Andrew Tilghman – Staff writer
Posted : Sunday Oct 7, 2012 10:34:55 EDT

The professional core of the U.S. military overwhelmingly favors Mitt Romney over President Obama in the upcoming election — but not because of any particular military issues, according to a new poll of more than 3,100 active and reserve troops.

Respondents rated the economy and the candidates’ character as their most important considerations and all but ignored the war in Afghanistan as an issue of concern.

The Military Times Poll is a secure email survey of active-duty, National Guard and reserve members who are subscribers to the Military Times newspapers (see How We Did It, below).

This population is older and more senior than the military population at large, but it is representative of the professional core of the all-volunteer force.

The 3,100 respondents — roughly two-thirds active-duty and one-third reserve component members — are about 80 percent white and 91 percent male. Forty percent are in paygrades E-5 through E-8, while more than 35 percent are in paygrades O-3 through O-5.

Almost 80 percent of respondents have a college degree — including 27 percent with a graduate degree and more than 11 percent with a post-graduate degree — while an additional 18.5 percent have some college under their belts.

And they are battle-hardened; almost 29 percent have spent more than two cumulative years deployed since 9/11, while a similar percentage has spent one to two cumulative years deployed.

The Military Times poll shows that Republicans continue to enjoy overwhelming support among the military’s professional ranks.

“There is really an affinity for Republican candidates, even though [troops] say that what counts is character and handling the economy,” said Richard Kohn, who teaches military history at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

Poll results indicate that about 66 percent of those surveyed support Romney, compared with about 26 percent who say they will vote to re-elect President Obama.

When asked about the most important issue guiding their vote this year, about 66 percent of respondents cited either “the economy” or “the character of the candidate.” Less than 16 percent of troops surveyed cited “national security.”

And the war in Afghanistan is barely a blip on the radar: Just more than 1 percent put that conflict at the top of their list of concerns. That’s in stark contrast to troops’ feelings about the war in Iraq in the Military Times 2008 election poll, when 16 percent cited that conflict as their top concern.

josef

November 15th, 2012
4:16 pm

DOGGONE

And you so how quickly “we” did go to discussing it…you’re just being your little snippet self today.

Jay

November 15th, 2012
4:17 pm

Josef, that would certainly be the next step to watch for. If I were an Iranian nuclear worker, I would be very nervous right about now….

Joe Hussein Mama

November 15th, 2012
4:19 pm

B. Shockley — “Military personnel call themselves Republican at about 50%, Democrat at about 15%.”

That may be, but it certainly doesn’t support JKL’s claim that “98% think the CINC is POS.”

“Guess they’re happy to speak for themselves……..”

Indeed. And servicemen, as well as veterans like myself, don’t really care to have others speak for us. We’re perfectly capable of speaking for ourselves.

If you or JKL can establish that 98% figure, then have at it. Otherwise, I — and a lot of other veterans and servicemen — would appreciate it a great deal if you simply let us speak for ourselves.

Paul

November 15th, 2012
4:19 pm

josef

Well, you heard him at the news conference. Reiterated how before the election said he would not let Iran get a nuke, said it during the election and he’s saying it now.

Economic pressure, surrogate pressure – it’s all pressure.

Not saying Hamas is acting as anyone’s proxy. They are crazy and evil on their own. But how Israel deals with this will be instructive.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 15th, 2012
4:20 pm

Jay

Seein’ as how you’re here — is there any data on the I-85 peach pass lanes?

Ben Shockley

November 15th, 2012
4:20 pm

Joe,

Not speaking for anyone…just posting facts. Not my problem if they don’t support your world view.

Doggone/GA

November 15th, 2012
4:21 pm

“And you so how quickly “we” did go to discussing it…you’re just being your little snippet self today”

Damn right. Don’t like it? Don’t read what I post.

Don Abernethy

November 15th, 2012
4:21 pm

Since the election I have become an isolationist and do not plan to get involved with comments concerning our pitiful country.

JamVet

November 15th, 2012
4:22 pm

Barbour: GOP needs a ‘proctology exam’.

Lord knows, they sure do stink!

To wit, read the scurrilous and childish lies about our men and women in uniform by General JKL2 of the 101st Chairborne…

They BOTH suck

November 15th, 2012
4:22 pm

Ben @ 4:20

Sort of like the electorate not voting for the man you said would win. Not anyone else’s problem if they don’t support your world view.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 15th, 2012
4:22 pm

B. Shockley — “Joe, Not speaking for anyone…just posting facts.”

Your facts don’t support JKL’s contention. So thanks for playing.

“Not my problem if they don’t support your world view.”

Actually, they *do* support my world view. I said that JKL’s 98% figure was wrong. Your Military Times piece agrees with me. So thanks very much for the assist.

Ben Shockley

November 15th, 2012
4:23 pm

“To wit, read the scurrilous and childish lies about our men and women in uniform by General JKL2 of the 101st Chairborne…”

Option 2 – read the facts posted by Ben Shockley at 4:16

Recon 0311 2533

November 15th, 2012
4:23 pm

“When” (what date) did you first know of the Petraeus investigation?

He dodged that question in yesterdays press conference.

Paul

November 15th, 2012
4:24 pm

“Military Times Poll: Romney bests Obama, 2-1″

Well of course.

What do you expect of a group that got promised all those freebies?

Ben Shockley

November 15th, 2012
4:24 pm

After reading the facts I posted @ 4:16, I’m pretty comfortable asserting that JamVet and Joe Hussein don’t speak for their military brethren.

Just sayin’………………………….

josef

November 15th, 2012
4:24 pm

JAY

@ 4:17

I would agree with that. This is the weakest (long range) that Hamas has been in a long while and there is a certain desperation at work, I believe. The line-up has already started, and France and Britain have already, more or less, said “go for it.” Russia is being cautious and Turkey is caught in a bind. Egypt is a wild card here.

Barack is back in and Bibi has his own vote on the horizon. I think this is what they had already worked out and were just waiting for the US elections to be over.

Ben Shockley

November 15th, 2012
4:26 pm

98% of the people living at my house think the C-In-C is a POS.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 15th, 2012
4:26 pm

B. Shockley — “After reading the facts I posted @ 4:16, I’m pretty comfortable asserting that JamVet and Joe Hussein don’t speak for their military brethren. Just sayin’………………………….”

Oh, I feel pretty comfortable asserting that they’d get along with us a lot better than they’d get along with you. (giggling) :D

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 15th, 2012
4:27 pm

Recon @ 4:23

It still needs (and will eventually) to be answered.

So much for “transparency”.

They BOTH suck

November 15th, 2012
4:27 pm

“98% of the people living at my house think the C-In-C is a POS.”

And where is the other 2% of you? Are you not a whole person?

Brosephus™

November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm

@ 4:16

This population is older and more senior than the military population at large, but it is representative of the professional core of the all-volunteer force.”

…..

“The Military Times poll shows that Republicans continue to enjoy overwhelming support among the military’s professional ranks.”

I don’t think there’s anyway to get to 98% based on what that poll says it represents. That said, y’all just continue on with the daily pissing contest.

Redcoat

November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm

“I’m not a crook”

Erwin's cat

November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm

JOSEF
Barack is back in and Bibi has his own vote on the horizon. I think this is what they had already worked out and were just waiting for the US elections to be over.

Very possible…As for Turkey, they always manage to be in that “caught in the middle” bind, but that sorta has made Turkey the Turkey of today eh?

Erwin's cat

November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm

JOSEF
Barack is back in and Bibi has his own vote on the horizon. I think this is what they had already worked out and were just waiting for the US elections to be over.

Very possible…As for Turkey, they always manage to be in that “caught in the middle” bind, but that sorta has made Turkey the Turkey of today eh?

getalife

November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm

Can’t we all just get along?

I think if you live in Syria, Gaza and Israel you are very nervous right about now….

josef

November 15th, 2012
4:30 pm

DOGGONE

Who said I didn’t like what you post? You’re one of those I read consistently. Sometimes I disagree, sometimes I agree. More often it’s the latter. But just like your periodic charges to me of being a drama queen, well, you DO get snippy…

JamVet

November 15th, 2012
4:31 pm

Ben, although you are very, very, very, very, very, very good at it, playing stupid is really not useful in this discussion.

Just grow a pair and say it – JKL2 is a scurrilous liar when he writes that 98% (of the troops in the field) think the CINC is POS.

Or don’t.

Your current cowardice is noted either way…

Jay

November 15th, 2012
4:31 pm

Jamvet, back off the personal attacks.

Ben Shockley

November 15th, 2012
4:32 pm

“Your current cowardice is noted either way”

Easy to say hiding behind that keyboard, Jammypoo……..

yuzeyurbrane

November 15th, 2012
4:32 pm

sometimes a banana is just a banana