Mitt Romney, exit stage right. A little quicker, please …
Mitt Romney tried to explain his loss Wednesday to disappointed financial backers by telling them that he would have gotten away with it without that durned 47 percent:
“The Obama campaign was following the old playbook of giving a lot of stuff to groups that they hoped they could get to vote for them and be motivated to go out to the polls, specifically the African American community, the Hispanic community and young people. In each case they were very generous in what they gave to those groups.”
“With regards to African American voters, ‘Obamacare’ was a huge plus — and was highly motivational to African American voters. You can imagine for somebody making $25—, or $30—, or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free healthcare — particularly if you don’t have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 a family, in perpetuity, I mean this is huge. Likewise with Hispanic voters, free healthcare was a big plus….”
“With regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for the children of illegals — the so-called Dream Act kids — was a huge plus for that voting group. On the negative side, of course, they always characterized us as being anti-immigrant, being tough on illegal immigration, and so forth, so that was very effective with that group.”
So let me get this straight: When Romney, in the first debate, promised a tax cut to the middle class, he wasn’t promising them a gift? When he wooed his backers on Wall Street by telling them that he would repeal Dodd Frank, abolish the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau and lower corporate taxes, that wasn’t promising a gift?
When he went to Viriginia to promise to build even more nuclear-powered submarines that just happened to be built right there in Virginia, that wasn’t a gift? When he went to coal country to promise to weaken environmental regulations that protect the air we breathe, that wasn’t a gift? When he traveled to Florida to promise to replace $716 billion in Medicare funding allegedly cut by the Obama administration, that wasn’t a gift?
Or is it only a “gift” when offered to poor African Americans or Hispanic Americans?
All in all, it is quite something to see complaints about pandering from a man who wafted in the political breeze with all the gravity of a dandelion seed.
It’s true that Romney’s political career has now ended, and that his sole remaining function is to sit on the stage during the inaugural ceremonies, his presence required as official recognition of his own defeat. But the mindset that he revealed in that infamous “47 percent” tape, the mindset that he confirms in his latest remarks, continues to be a serious problem for the party he represented.
And once again, Bobby Jindal of all people gets it. Asked about Romney’s remarks in a press conference, Jindal became “visibly agitated,” Politico reports.
“No, I think that’s absolutely wrong. Two points on that: One, we have got to stop dividing the American voters. We need to go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent. We need to go after every single vote.
“And, secondly, we need to continue to show how our policies help every voter out there achieve the American Dream, which is to be in the middle class, which is to be able to give their children an opportunity to be able to get a great education. … So, I absolutely reject that notion, that description. I think that’s absolutely wrong.”
He reiterated the points for emphasis.
“I don’t think that represents where we are as a party and where we’re going as a party,” he said. “That has got to be one of the most fundamental takeaways from this election: If we’re going to continue to be a competitive party and win elections on the national stage and continue to fight for our conservative principles, we need two messages to get out loudly and clearly: One, we are fighting for 100 percent of the votes, and secondly, our policies benefit every American who wants to pursue the American dream. Period. No exceptions.”
– Jay Bookman
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East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 15th, 2012
9:50 am
Mrs RINO got some free stuff from vendors at a convention this week. They must want something in return. Free market capitalism at its’ best.
clem
November 15th, 2012
9:51 am
paul, true armitage first. but i seriously doubt novak would have done his little hit job without corroboration by rove. we know scooter and cheney were working on discrediting joe wilson for telling the truth. to borrow lindsey’s expression “they were up to their eyeballs in it”. i don’t recall if novak called them before story but they sure scrambled after story and scooter fell on his sword.
and georgie said he was gone get to the bottom of it, but didn’t. and he did not pardon scooter.
add this to the fact that cheney leaned on cia and most likely influenced wmd critical thinking. how many lives lost there.
did you call for mcnamara or westmorelands scalp when they covered up viet nam….
i want the truth to come out; but for mccain & graham (two peas in pod & liars to boot about iraq
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2012
9:52 am
Allowing people to keep what is theirs already is not a gift.
The government provides services, if people are using those and not paying, they’re getting a gift.
Now I realize it’s fashionable among conservatives to assume a literate populace, roads, social order, power grids, etc. are simply naturally occurring features. If these people want government to “get out of the way” Somalia is ready when they are. I’ll help them pack their gold-plated luggage.
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
9:52 am
‘Will CNN/AJC find new meanings to words to excuse Obama for lying to America?’
When ‘lying to America’ consists of calling an attack on our consulate as ‘triggered by a spontaneous protest’ vs ‘a terrorist attack,’ you REALLY do not have much…
Mary Elizabeth
November 15th, 2012
9:52 am
Paul Krugman, today:
“Some of us see an increasingly, radically unequal America, with rising inequality actually reinforced by public policy, with tax rates on the rich lower than they have been in many decades and the overall redistributive effect of government down substantially since the 1970s. But the right sees an entitlement epidemic, in which the big problem is that too many people are getting free stuff.
It’s important to understand the roots of this stuff. It began as a deliberate appeal to racism, with explicit condemnation of Those People as welfare moochers. . . .
And I don’t think the Republican party as currently constituted can change this: after 45 years of the Southern strategy, this stuff is what defines the party’s soul.”
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/15/the-moocher-majority/
Ol' Bob
November 15th, 2012
9:53 am
If Romney is to be believed (always a dicey proposition) then he and his team should really be in the running for the 2012 Joseph Goebbels Memorial Believe Your Own Propaganda At All Costs Award. If they didn’t see this loss coming, when most polls in the last SIX MONTHS of the campaign showed him trailing, sometimes by a little, sometimes by a lot, but nearly ALWAYS trailing, then they suffered one of the biggest reality disconnects ever. Honest, guys – you need to watch more than Fox to get a feel for what’s going on in “the real world”, wherever that may be. Well, what the heck could we expect from a candidate who couldn’t even remember his real name..?
lovelyliz
November 15th, 2012
9:53 am
Where was this version of Gov Jindal pre-November 6, 2012?
Jackie
November 15th, 2012
9:53 am
We should look carefully at the “hearings” chaired by Rep Issa(R-CA) and his outing of a CIA agent, an active CIA operation and possibly the death of some of those who supported the operation in Libya.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 15th, 2012
9:55 am
Tim: “How is it a gift when you already own the money?”
The old assumption that all taxation is theft (see my post above).
You’re hopelessly ensnared in capitalist ideology, Tim, if you think that taxation as such is theft.
If taxation per se is theft, then so is private property per se.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
9:56 am
I’ve been trying to figure out what the conservative angle is in sharing this with the world. I could see why a liberal site might release this, but I’m still scratching my head over why a *conservative* site would.
I read some of the comments and I’m still a bit puzzled. Perhaps the simplest answer is also the least interesting one–this online contributor found this factoid interesting and wanted to generate some discussion?
Jay
November 15th, 2012
9:56 am
“Allowing people to keep what is theirs already is not a gift.
The dollars “returned” to taxpayers via a tax cut do not and never did belong to that taxpayer. They are dollars that are being borrowed instead from China and elsewhere. Every dollar in tax cuts is another dollar added onto the national debt. It is a “freebie” handed out to today’s taxpayer and voter that will have to be repaid by that voter’s children and grandchildren.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 15th, 2012
9:57 am
“Ever wonder why he lost ?? Not me….”
nope.
the only thing I wonder is how he did as well as he did
April Carter
November 15th, 2012
9:57 am
Everyone just dying to be offended? How many left wing commentators said the exact same thing. Aren’t weak minded Republicans trying to find ways to cater to these groups as well. Just a simple analysis ( perhaps even a compliment in effectiveness on Obama campaign) is all this was. Worse swipe was that this would cost a lot ( something the media never comments on when the goodies are being promised).
Relax. The empty suit won. What do any of you care what Romney does or say anymore? Enjoy the inevitable success coming our way.
Jerry Eads
November 15th, 2012
9:58 am
I’m not surprised at Romney, and while some of Jindal’s policies on education (my interest) aren’t very smart, glad to see at least one Republican tries to think about everyone. Maybe he even realizes “trickle-down” economics don’t – the data are excruciatingly clear if any Republicans would look at such – and have never done anything except widen the income gap. (But I’ll not hold my breath.)
Paul
November 15th, 2012
9:58 am
clem
‘did you call for mcnamara or westmorelands scalp when they covered up viet nam….”
Yep.
And Johnson over the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
And I’ve been quite critical of much of the senior military leadership during that era.
” and he did not pardon scooter.”
Have to give Pres Bush credit for that.
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
10:00 am
Ahhhh, memories…
Remember when the Bush Admin, Fox and the usual bullspitters adopted the mantra re: the surplus: ‘The gov’t is taking too much of your money and we intend to give it back.’
During record surpluses…crickets…
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 15th, 2012
10:01 am
“Have to give Pres Bush credit for that.”
and he hired Ben Bernanke. the only 2 things I agreed with in 8 years.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
10:01 am
wow…
Maybe because conservative power brokers want to add LDS to their list of suspect people because they aren’t really as conservative as they were made out to be?
I’m so old I can remember when I was the guy who was willing to occasionally assume the absolute worst of America’s conservatives, and Paul was the guy occasionally reining me in.
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
10:02 am
‘During record surpluses…crickets…’
Oops, meant during record DEFICITS…Mas Cafe, Ahora!
Ronald Reagan Parkway
November 15th, 2012
10:02 am
my November 15th, 2012
8:24 am
correction:
“Romney lost in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota and several other states with “very low” African American and Hispanic populations.”
Correction: Obama lost in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota and several other states with “very low” African American and Hispanic populations.”
Obama won in:
Oregon Population Race White Race Black Race Hispanic
3,871,859 88.6% 2.0% 12.0%
Nevada 2,723,322 77.7% 8.6% 27.1%
Iowa 3,062,309 93.0% 3.1% 5.2%
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/19000.html
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
10:02 am
the only 2 things I agreed with in 8 years.
You forgot off-road diesel pollution regs! and the no-call list!
(and Poland!)
alex
November 15th, 2012
10:03 am
Yes the president offered “gifts”, Yes Romney offered “gifts”, it’s called pork in D.C. and they all do it , end of story.. For the repubs to improve, self evaluation must occur, end of story…
Yesterday someone wanted a good reference regarding the players of the mortgage debacle, on further thought.. I think that “reckless Endangerment ” is an excellent overview of the platers in this story from Fannie Mae to AIG, to the Texans west of Dallas to the Senator from conneticut. They are all there.
midtownguy
November 15th, 2012
10:03 am
The only “gift” I want from the Democrats is a marriage license for me and my partner of twenty years. But I fully expect to pay for it.
Walt Price
November 15th, 2012
10:06 am
The loser is not Mitt, but the American People. We will have 4 more years of the same failed Obama’s policies, with no growth and more taxes. Mitt was right about the 47% of people who are just getting something from the government without caring to pay taxes. It may be shocking for the liberals, but it is true.
gm
November 15th, 2012
10:07 am
Hey Mitt and low informed idiots at fox and viewers
Obama won VT, Iowa, RI, WI,NH Main, these places have a low population of less then 2% of minorties , when will you idiots start blaming Romney job performance in Mass where his state was 47 out 50 in job creation, the people in Mass despise him.
How about Mich were he was born, did not vote for him, only the southern confederates can defend a man who home town and where he worked knew he was a fraud, talking about backwoods southern conservatives, wow
Tired of Stupid
November 15th, 2012
10:07 am
“You can imagine for somebody making $25—, or $30—, or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free healthcare — particularly if you don’t have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 a family, in perpetuity”
Does anyone but me read this with incredulity? 10K for a family earning 25-35K is roughly 30% of what they earn … how else are they going to get health care, they certainly can’t pay for it.
At a macro level there are 3 basic options:
1. We as a country fund it paying for it through our taxes.
2. Its funded by hospital emergency room care, where we who can afford health care pay for it in increased health care costs. Or
3. They die.
People are going to get health care, either we pay upfront and manage it with some economies of scale and resulting efficiencies – or we pay at the back end in our increasing health care costs. But nobody should fool themselves into thinking we won’t be paying for the health care of those that can’t afford it.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
10:07 am
it’s called pork in D.C.
Coming soon to Rock Creek Park?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/wild-pigs-may-become-washingtons-next-big-pest/2012/11/12/03175e2e-130d-11e2-a16b-2c110031514a_story.html
(sorry, but that still kinda wigs me out.)
clem
November 15th, 2012
10:08 am
paul, good for you on standing up to the bs of some of our leaders. at least we can agree on that.
i think obama crazy to pursue afghan war, any idiot would know it is not conventionally winable. of course if there were a draft, i seriously doubt we would have been there in 2008.
every life lost there is total bs.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
10:08 am
Yeah, stands, those were the good old days, weren’t they?
But I do wonder – maybe we haven’t changed all that much and it’s the conservative movement that’s gone warp speed to the right.
Remember when I was the token neocon around here? (grin) Then again, that was before we had the EOI club.
Tom Zarek
November 15th, 2012
10:08 am
Asians voted about 75% for Obama. 4.9% of Asians are on welfare, compared to 5.2% of whites. So how do the Mitts of the world explain that?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 15th, 2012
10:08 am
“You forgot off-road diesel pollution regs! and the no-call list!”
the no-call list was him? I thought that was Clinton
Georgia on my mind...
November 15th, 2012
10:08 am
In case some of you do not know the definition of “DEFEAT”….it is defined below and you will have to deal with it for 4 more years…
NOUN:
The act of defeating or state of being defeated.
“Failure to win”.
A coming to naught; frustration: the defeat of a lifelong dream.
Law The act of making null and void.
You for real
November 15th, 2012
10:09 am
A lot of talk about Romney and his money. Hope you all do not believe Obama’s pockets are not full. Obama could care less about what happens to any of the middle class people of this country. He got his and that is all that matters. We (the working) will all be stuck paying for this guys mess forever.
We do not pick a president anymore we are herded like sheep following what the news and news shows feed us. Shame!
F. Sinkwich
November 15th, 2012
10:09 am
Anybody see the Ramirez cartoon in the dead tree version of the AJC this morning? Absolutely hilarious (as usual) and appropriate to this topic:
http://www.investors.com/editorial-cartoons/michael-ramirez/633207-barack-obama-election-2012-free-stuff
Parenthetically, Luckovich has gotta hate having the Ramirez cartoon so often on the editorial page these days. When contrasted to Ramirez, Luckovich’s crude, third-grade artwork and his dullard editorial wit is exposed for all to see.
midtownguy
November 15th, 2012
10:10 am
How does that “not paying taxes” thing work? When I check out at Walmart do I just tell them I’m part of the 47% that doesn’t pay and they take the tax off my bill?
williebkind
November 15th, 2012
10:11 am
Obama the best president the far left news media can get elected. Now prepare for hard times.
MANGLER
November 15th, 2012
10:11 am
I remember when you simply didn’t discuss sex, politics, and religion in mixed company. The drivel (from all sides) online doesn’t bother me too much, given the ambiguity of the posters, as we all act like kids on here. However, now people around here seem perfectly at ease yelling in restaurants, watering holes, grocery stores, and around the water cooler about these issues and why they seem to have the answer to the worlds ills, and they sure as hell know who’s to blame for everything too. I know you all seem to feel pretty comfy in your local bubbles, but just for a second, pretend that the person or family next to you somewhere A) doesn’t exactly agree with you and B) didn’t work to spend their money to be there just to hear your loud mouth opinions blathering away and C) may be the type looking to quarrel with the first person who steps on their eggshell. The behavior in public lately has been annoying to say the least, and verging on degenerate and irate. But given how our “leaders” have acted over the past few years, it really shouldn’t surprise me.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 15th, 2012
10:11 am
okay, F Sink … I’ll play …
give me one quote where Obama promises “free stuff”
much like the oft-quoted “messiah” complex, this is a myth perpetuated by the right.
fedup
November 15th, 2012
10:12 am
Lee Atwater types all over again. The rich always hates the poor and wants the status quo.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 15th, 2012
10:12 am
“Obama the best president the far left news media can get elected”
OR … Mitt was the best candidate that not even FOX news could elevate above his mediocrity
alex
November 15th, 2012
10:12 am
Obama to GM, “here’s a gift.” Obama to the GM bond holders, sorry sucker, you pay for it>>”
Administration to AIG,”here’s a gift”,Administration to taxpayers: “pay it”.
They ALL do it, end of story…” I’m shocked, shocked to find gambling going on……………….
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 15th, 2012
10:13 am
“When I check out at Walmart do I just tell them I’m part of the 47% that doesn’t pay and they take the tax off my bill?”
… and the gas you put in your car and the taxes you pay on your house, etc …
Paul
November 15th, 2012
10:14 am
clem
My take is Pres Obama is on a fast track to get us out of Afghanistan. Yes, his advisors had a blow-out argument and Obama went with a limited troop increase, which is over.
I saw things going downhill when the conventional Army (pre-Petraeus influence) took over from the CIA. I always thought a more realistic approach was go in, kill and depose the Taliban (we did), kill and disrupt most of AQ (we did) then tell the warlords “we’re leaving. Sort it out. But if you arrange power-sharing deals with Taliban or AQ and let them reconstitute, we come back and kill them and then we kill you.”
Sometimes I do get this Genghis Khan streak I have to guard against.
Off to the gym – later.
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November 15th, 2012
10:15 am
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nelson
November 15th, 2012
10:15 am
Actually, Mitt would exit more quickly, however Prez O has asked him to join the prez so that Mitts ideas for the economy can be addressed more fully.
All 50 states have filed petitions for seccession,the only political area content to stay within the union is Austin, Tex. Would I be remiss to say that there is discontent among the citizenery?
Alluding to giveouts only to AfroAmericans is “playing the race card”. Mitt addressed the NAACP in Atlanta to a smattering of boos, when they had invited him to speak. Now, is that rude, I ask you? Give it to me straight.
Aquagirl
November 15th, 2012
10:16 am
Asians voted about 75% for Obama. 4.9% of Asians are on welfare, compared to 5.2% of whites
Tom has uncovered the Yellow Peril Plot where they all aspire to collect welfare and talk on Obamaphones all day.
alex
November 15th, 2012
10:16 am
@stands, Yea, but mabye we can all join for some BBQ
As for Atwater, the guy is dead , give it a break, If there WAS a price to pay-he did with glioblastoma…..Give it up, he’s long gone, tried to make amends …give it up all you perfect people, sheesh
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
10:17 am
Remember when I was the token neocon around here? (grin)
I know Paul’s left, but for the noobs here–Paul and I used to actually *argue.*
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 15th, 2012
10:17 am
“Tom has uncovered the Yellow Peril Plot ”
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 15th, 2012
10:17 am
“Paul and I used to actually *argue.*”
Peadawg
November 15th, 2012
10:19 am
Romney, please go away.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
10:19 am
the no-call list was him? I thought that was Clinton
UnU, the no-call list was signed into law by GW Bush in 2003.
If you’re trying to attribute it to an earlier president, you actually have to go back to GHW Bush’s efforts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_Consumer_Protection_Act_of_1991
Krystal'sBalls
November 15th, 2012
10:19 am
I am afraid that the U.S. for a long time to come (like forever) will not ne able to get past its scapegoating of people of color. It doesn’t matter that there are people out there who are decent and do not allow it to permeate their own lives. As long as it is allowed to remain a part of the larger discourse, the problem will remain.
As for Romney, I think he has a wonderful opportunity to show us ALL just HOW passionate he is about and how much he really “loves this country”. Show us how willing you are to contribute your ideas from the sidelines in service to the country if the President reaches out, which he undoubtedly will given his history for doing such things. Show us your true patriotism, or whether or not you were just seeking the TITLE.
saywhat?
November 15th, 2012
10:25 am
Paul @ 10:14. That is what I think should have happened as well.
Georgia on my mind...
November 15th, 2012
10:25 am
As for Romney, I think he has a wonderful opportunity to show us ALL just HOW passionate he is about and how much he really “loves this country”.
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After Romney made the comments about African Americans and Hispanics, do you think that he is concerned about ALL Americans? In his heart, his intentions were not geared towards people of color nor is the Republican Party!!
DougW659
November 15th, 2012
10:25 am
Bobby Jindal’s analysis seems far to logical for him to be part of the Republican party. he isn’t denigrating those unfortunate enough to be born poor, he isn’t mentioning that the rights of the upper class are ‘God Given’, he isn’t quoting Ayn Rand. Is he considering changing to the Democratic party?
John E
November 15th, 2012
10:28 am
Enter your comments here
Tundra Dude
November 15th, 2012
10:29 am
Recon:
“As we observe the riots in Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece due to austerity brought on by socialism
Camelfeathers!
On a Socialism Scale, all these countries rank near the bottom.
In the middle are Germany, France, Austria, Holland.
By far, the most generous Socialistas are the Scandinavians.
The problems in these sub-prime countries are not caused by “Socialism Run Amuk”,
but by “Banksters Gone Wild”.
tip: stop watchin’ that Faux Nuze
alittlecommonsense
November 15th, 2012
10:30 am
“So let me get this straight: When Romney, in the first debate, promised a tax cut to the middle class, he wasn’t promising them a gift? When he wooed his backers on Wall Street by telling them that he would repeal Dodd Frank, abolish the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau and lower corporate taxes, that wasn’t promising a gift?”
No – Giving something to someone is a gift. Taking less from them is not. Liberals seem to have trouble with that concept.
AmericaShrugged
November 15th, 2012
10:30 am
Jay spins and his minions agree. Obama gave, Romney just promised, big difference. Otherwise, Gitmo would be closed, unemployment would never have gone above 8%, only 5,000 additional troops would have been deployed to Afghanistan, and taxes on the rich would have already reverted to pre-Bush rates. That’s stuff Obama promised in ‘08, none of which he delivered.
And after Obamacare the biggest gifts were the 2% SS reduction and the GM bailout, neither of which were mentioned. Obama spent almost his entire first term buying votes for his re-election. Great stregy, ti worked. But at what cost to America?
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 15th, 2012
10:31 am
The President of the U.S.A.
November 15th, 2012
10:15 am
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Schumer Tool.
as well as all deomcrats.
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lol
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
November 15th, 2012
10:33 am
This country needs a GOP enima
zeke
November 15th, 2012
10:33 am
Sorry, but Mitt is correct! When you have a large segment of the population that is given money, free housing, free phones, free cable, free internet, food stamps, aid for having illegitimate children, and, on and on, do you think they will vote for the moron promising them more and more, or, for the person trying to save the country and economy and telling them they will be required to work, look for jobs, and get less redistribution money from the taxpayers!
That was the point of the 47% comment! That is a fact today in the USA! We are almost at the point of being a welfare country! And, not that people who really need help should get it, but, the millions who are scamming the system need to be stopped! How can someone on welfare, food stamps and such afford big screen television and high definition service, new BMWs, smart phones, $200 or $300 sneakers??? That is what is wrong! And democrats do not want that to change, because, just like the plan to make illegals citizens, THEY HAVE TO DO IT TO GET THE VOTES AND TO KEEP THE ALMIGHTY POWER OVER THE REST OF US!
frank burns
November 15th, 2012
10:33 am
During the campaign Romney was against the Dream Act before he was for it, and now I guess he’s against it again. He hasn’t gotten the idea that truth counts. Must come from being a Mormon missionary.
The President of the U.S.A.
November 15th, 2012
10:33 am
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 15th, 2012
10:31 am
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I bet it burns you up inside every time you have to look at his face and know that he is sitting up in Washington and you have the call him President of the U.S.A.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 15th, 2012
10:33 am
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
10:17 am
Remember when I was the token neocon around here? (grin)
I know Paul’s left, but for the noobs here–Paul and I used to actually *argue.*
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Progs don’t “argue”.
They whine.
If you live in Washington…….they whine as they divide the loot.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
November 15th, 2012
10:34 am
CONS YOU LOST TWICE GET OVER YOURSELVES
Jesse
November 15th, 2012
10:34 am
Jay, giving benefits to a low income worker gets their vote, no question. It is a gift because they keep doing what they are doing and get more. Offering a coal miner the opportunity to mine or a boat builder the opportunity to build a boat is WORK. he offered JOBS, the opportunity to possibly achieve more through effort not hand outs. If the difference is not clear to you a person who made the art of language and literature their carer that concerns me. Further to the point if you are suggesting that adding up the votes of submarine builders, bankers, and coal miners out counts the sum of low income American families? its a good thing you went into literature because math is not your strong suite. In my opinion (and I’m willing to admit that what it is) Republicans were not trying to win by targeting Bankers who wanted Dod Frank repealed they were trying to keep and create jobs for more HARD working (key words here) Americans.
zeke
November 15th, 2012
10:34 am
Hey Frank! You think Obama the socialist is truthful? You must have failed kindergarten!
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 15th, 2012
10:35 am
Mary Elizabeth
November 15th, 2012
9:52 am
Paul Krugman, today:
“Some of us see an increasingly, radically unequal America, with rising inequality actually reinforced by public policy, with tax rates on the rich lower than they have been in many decades and the overall redistributive effect of government down substantially since the 1970s. But the right sees an entitlement epidemic, in which the big problem is that too many people are getting free stuff.
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Schumer tool………………….with passion.
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
10:35 am
willie lynch
November 15th, 2012
9:18 am
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
8:56 am
What does continuing to bash Romney accomplish? He is a footnote to the 2012 election. I can’t see him running for public office again.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
10:35 am
Since the ridiculous petitions to secede will never have enough signatures to amount to anything…
If you are one of those who feels like that, take the only route
dictated by personal responsibility.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2004/08/how_to_renounce_your_citizenship.html
And I bet a pitcher of martinis that not a one of them have the stones to do it.
Wimps.
spiker
November 15th, 2012
10:36 am
It’s long past time to strap Mr. Romney to the roof and drive him off to obscurity.
DannyX
November 15th, 2012
10:36 am
I wish Romney would have won. I was looking forward to my free Etch-a-Sketch.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
November 15th, 2012
10:36 am
Even if the states succeed CONS would still lose….lol
Fly-On-The-Wall
November 15th, 2012
10:36 am
Mitt is nothing more than a salesman which means he’ll say anything to get the sale. A majority of the country wasn’t ready to buy from him. That’s about as simple as we can say it.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 15th, 2012
10:36 am
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 15th, 2012
10:13 am
“When I check out at Walmart do I just tell them I’m part of the 47% that doesn’t pay and they take the tax off my bill?”
… and the gas you put in your car and the taxes you pay on your house, etc …
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Schumer TOOLED.
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lol
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
10:36 am
“Surprise! Jobless Claims Up 78,000 Week After Election; PA, OH Worst Hit”
You reap what you sow !
Stevie Ray
November 15th, 2012
10:37 am
Finn McCool (The System isn’t Broken; It’s Fixed)
November 15th, 2012
8:45 am
Of course Reich has “the plan”…has anyone taken time to compare those benefits (of basically increasing the proportion of taxes paid for corporations and “rich” folks…) versus estimated costs? I submit that those (i agree, screw the defense contractor and reduce DoD by at least 25%) most affected will simply find new means to avoid having to pay for the 30% overage of current spending. He also assumes (as far as I can tell) that the government spending will be flat…is that accurate? To me, it’s simply a simple yet standard approach for DEMS…no country has ever gotten out of such a mess without middle class contributions..Also, I doubt that any jobs would result…likely the opposite..
I came across Stiglitz…one of the 5 most respected economists going..note Krugman is way down the list…who I came across on POTUS…I like his message and will be reading his book the Cost of Inequality soon…
http://ideas.repec.org/top/top.person.all.html
Interesting take on capital gains as well..creative…he suggests eliminating favored treatments on those gains that create nothing..such as land investments..
FlaminioX
November 15th, 2012
10:37 am
Romney lost because he offered jobs to a country that doesn’t want to work!
Tundra Dude
November 15th, 2012
10:37 am
Midtown:
The only “gift” I want from the Democrats is a marriage license for me and my partner of twenty years. But I fully expect to pay for it.
Wish ya luck….
but I’m reminded of something my sis swears a prof once stated:
Marriage *causes* mental illness.
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
10:37 am
Romney is leading the charge over the cliff for the Republican Party.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
November 15th, 2012
10:37 am
seceed the gop
TaxPayer
November 15th, 2012
10:37 am
Mitt Romney, Karl Rove, et al, have found a new scam–promising billionaires lower taxes in exchange for their monetary support. Cons conning cons.
Erwin's cat
November 15th, 2012
10:37 am
you guys sound like Vilma….you won but are still complaining about the other guy’s behavior…get over yourselves and move on…
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
November 15th, 2012
10:38 am
GOP DENIAL PRICELESS
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
10:39 am
….you won but are still complaining about the other guy’s behavior…
Pats by 3.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 15th, 2012
10:39 am
WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) – “As President Barack Obama is set to begin his second term, new statistics on America’s poverty rate indicate that nearly 50 million Americans, more than 16 percent of the population, are struggling to survive.”
That’s with just four years of Obama. Get ready people ………. you get what you wish for !
Ronald Reagan Parkway
November 15th, 2012
10:39 am
Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
10:35 am
If they made every person that signed the petition include a photo, address and phone number, they would not have signed. They all are cowards. If the President comes back and says, that they can personally secede and make arrangements for them to leave the country, they would not want to go.
HDB
November 15th, 2012
10:39 am
I’d say that Obama gave the nation the best gift of all: keeping Romney’s stupid self OUT of the White House!! That’s a gift I’ll GLADLY take!!
Tom in Atlanta
November 15th, 2012
10:40 am
The only hope for this country is to require citizens to be productive – find or create a job and pay taxes, instead of not working, being unable to pay taxes, and thus draining money and resources. Every person that gets off of government assitance, and begins paying into the system instead of taking from the system, helps us meet our current and future obligations. And that is the big difference between the two types of “gifts” described. “Lowering Corporate taxes” is an incentive given to businesses, i.e.employers, entities that give people a paycheck, and thus the ability to pay taxes. Grants to build Nuclear Subs, or ping pong tables for that matter – create jobs.
Giving Healthcare to all is a noble pursuit, but not a practical one. And if Obamacare gives me and others free healthcare, who is paying for it? The people who work and pay taxes pay for those that don’t work and don’t pay taxes. You can call it racism, or paint it as uncaring, or get mad because someone has more than you have – but the bottomline is this country needs more jobs and more taxpayers – not higher taxes.
If you’ve ever worked in sales – how are salesmen compensated? Usually by incentive – the more they sell, the more they earn. If they don’t sell – they don’t earn. It’s powerful motivation. Now imagine you are in sales, and your employer tells you that the more you sell, the more you PAY. That is precisely the type of logic that is prevalent under the current administration and its constituents. And why it will never work.
Create jobs – using incentives to do so, and you get more people more money and the government a larger base of taxpayers to fund their obligations. The color of the person’s skin, or his own individual wealth, should not enter into one’s decison about whose plan is most apt to get this accomplished. But it seemingly is the primary criteria used by a large number of voters.
Fly-On-The-Wall
November 15th, 2012
10:41 am
Even Kyle told everyone on his blog to stop the secession stuff. It is childish and he’s right.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 15th, 2012
10:41 am
Can someone help me….. I think I took a wrong turn. We appear to be deep into Angrywhitemenare stillstupidstan.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
10:41 am
you guys sound like Vilma
Flintstone?
Stevie Ray
November 15th, 2012
10:41 am
GRANNY
Damn, is the pitcher of martini’s for a single “consumer”?
barking frog
November 15th, 2012
10:42 am
When longtime wealthy politicians cannot win an election running against a
foreign born anti-colonialist community organizer they should shut up and
listen to what the people are telling them.
Bloomberg/Trump2016
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 15th, 2012
10:43 am
Create jobs – using incentives to do so, and you get more people more money and the government a larger base of taxpayers to fund their obligations.
Eff your effin’ “jobs”.
Jobs are all we’ve had for a generation.
Start talking about creating careers and then I’ll begin to take you seriously
Stevie Ray
November 15th, 2012
10:43 am
I heard from some late night comedian that the 25,000 votes for Texas to succeed were all from out of state..
DannyX
November 15th, 2012
10:43 am
“you won…”
Wooo-hooo! SPIKE!!! Naa-naa na naa-naa naa!! Lol at the LOSERS. Better luck next time.
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
10:44 am
Giving Healthcare to all is a noble pursuit, but not a practical one. And if Obamacare gives me and others free healthcare
Free healthcare?
Educating yourself about a topic might be a good thing before posting.