Mitt Romney, exit stage right. A little quicker, please …
Mitt Romney tried to explain his loss Wednesday to disappointed financial backers by telling them that he would have gotten away with it without that durned 47 percent:
“The Obama campaign was following the old playbook of giving a lot of stuff to groups that they hoped they could get to vote for them and be motivated to go out to the polls, specifically the African American community, the Hispanic community and young people. In each case they were very generous in what they gave to those groups.”
“With regards to African American voters, ‘Obamacare’ was a huge plus — and was highly motivational to African American voters. You can imagine for somebody making $25—, or $30—, or $35,000 a year, being told you’re now going to get free healthcare — particularly if you don’t have it, getting free healthcare worth, what, $10,000 a family, in perpetuity, I mean this is huge. Likewise with Hispanic voters, free healthcare was a big plus….”
“With regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for the children of illegals — the so-called Dream Act kids — was a huge plus for that voting group. On the negative side, of course, they always characterized us as being anti-immigrant, being tough on illegal immigration, and so forth, so that was very effective with that group.”
So let me get this straight: When Romney, in the first debate, promised a tax cut to the middle class, he wasn’t promising them a gift? When he wooed his backers on Wall Street by telling them that he would repeal Dodd Frank, abolish the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau and lower corporate taxes, that wasn’t promising a gift?
When he went to Viriginia to promise to build even more nuclear-powered submarines that just happened to be built right there in Virginia, that wasn’t a gift? When he went to coal country to promise to weaken environmental regulations that protect the air we breathe, that wasn’t a gift? When he traveled to Florida to promise to replace $716 billion in Medicare funding allegedly cut by the Obama administration, that wasn’t a gift?
Or is it only a “gift” when offered to poor African Americans or Hispanic Americans?
All in all, it is quite something to see complaints about pandering from a man who wafted in the political breeze with all the gravity of a dandelion seed.
It’s true that Romney’s political career has now ended, and that his sole remaining function is to sit on the stage during the inaugural ceremonies, his presence required as official recognition of his own defeat. But the mindset that he revealed in that infamous “47 percent” tape, the mindset that he confirms in his latest remarks, continues to be a serious problem for the party he represented.
And once again, Bobby Jindal of all people gets it. Asked about Romney’s remarks in a press conference, Jindal became “visibly agitated,” Politico reports.
“No, I think that’s absolutely wrong. Two points on that: One, we have got to stop dividing the American voters. We need to go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent. We need to go after every single vote.
“And, secondly, we need to continue to show how our policies help every voter out there achieve the American Dream, which is to be in the middle class, which is to be able to give their children an opportunity to be able to get a great education. … So, I absolutely reject that notion, that description. I think that’s absolutely wrong.”
He reiterated the points for emphasis.
“I don’t think that represents where we are as a party and where we’re going as a party,” he said. “That has got to be one of the most fundamental takeaways from this election: If we’re going to continue to be a competitive party and win elections on the national stage and continue to fight for our conservative principles, we need two messages to get out loudly and clearly: One, we are fighting for 100 percent of the votes, and secondly, our policies benefit every American who wants to pursue the American dream. Period. No exceptions.”
– Jay Bookman
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WAW
November 15th, 2012
8:43 am
The American People (for whom NO Republican speaks, acts or a crap about) elected a Democrat not a Plutocrat RINO. Most Republican voters neither understand nor care that their “Moral Issues” do not matter at all to the party blowing smoke (I shan’t say where).
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
8:43 am
‘439K new jobless claims…. Ouch’
And the fact that you leave out the part about the affect from Sandy tells everyone all they need to know about your psychosis…
Barack's the best
November 15th, 2012
8:44 am
Good riddance, Mittens. Hopefully you’ll get lost in one of your bajillion elevator-equipped garages and we’ll never hear from you again.
DannyX
November 15th, 2012
8:44 am
“None of the things you care so deeply about would happen without “the almighty dollar.””
Wasn’t it Jesus who said “Blessed is the almighty Dollar”?
BenDaho
November 15th, 2012
8:45 am
clem
November 15th, 2012
8:03 am
after delivering good concession speech, he reverts to evil mitt. how about releasing your tax returns now to show us how to reform taxes.
Right after Obama releases his college transcripts.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 15th, 2012
8:45 am
Robert Reich has the plan:
A 2% surtax on the wealth of the richest one-half of 1 percent would bring in another $750 billion over the decade. A one-half of 1 percent tax on financial transactions would bring in an additional $250 billion. Add this up and we get $2 trillion over ten years. Raise the capital gains rate to match the rate on ordinary income and cap the mortgage interest deduction at $12,000 a year, and that’s another $1 trillion over ten years. So now we’re up to $3 trillion in additional revenue. Eliminate special tax preferences for oil and gas, price supports for big agriculture, tax breaks and research subsidies for Big Pharma, unnecessary weapons systems for military contractors, and indirect subsidies to the biggest banks on Wall Street. End the Bush tax cuts on incomes between $250,000 and $1 million, and — bingo: $4 trillion over 10 years.
And we haven’t had to raise taxes on America’s beleaguered middle class, cut Social Security or Medicare and Medicaid, reduce spending on education or infrastructure, or cut programs for the poor.
http://www.alternet.org/economy/what-president-should-propose-grand-bargain-reduce-deficit
willie lynch
November 15th, 2012
8:47 am
Once the right has purged themselves of the divisive end of their party, the Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, Ingraham, Liz Cheney, Sarah Palin, well I guess I should just say the FOX crowd, they will be in a better position to start building a more diverse coalition.
As long as these people are seen as spokesmen for the party they are doomed to failure as Romney’s continuing misread of events would indicate.
Bernadette
November 15th, 2012
8:48 am
Mr. Romney can’t seriously believe what he says. It’s so bigoted and untrue. Someone needs to gag him and give him some prozac/lithium. Quickly.
TaxPayer
November 15th, 2012
8:48 am
439K new jobless claims…. Ouch.
President Obama can now give in to the Republican demands to cut unemployment insurance in order to help reduce the deficit.
willydoit?
November 15th, 2012
8:49 am
“Wasn’t it Jesus who said “Blessed is the almighty Dollar”?”
JAY!!!!
Tell DannyX that we republicans are the only ones that can use “Jesus quotes”!!
KChi
November 15th, 2012
8:50 am
Hello Bobby
My American Dream is not to be in the middle class. My dream is an American without a class system.
Thank you.
Verbal Kint
November 15th, 2012
8:51 am
“Romney lost in Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota and several other states with “very low” African American and Hispanic populations.”
News to me. Oh well. Carry on.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
8:52 am
“I woulda won except for all the people who voted against me”
– M. Romney and all political losers everywhere, throughout all of space and time
Gale
November 15th, 2012
8:52 am
I wonder how many of those jobless claims are where Sandy messed with their workplaces.
Georgia
November 15th, 2012
8:55 am
I think Romney “Jeff Gordoned” the GOP. Wow. Jay misses the point. It’s not that building more submarines with screen doors is a gift to the screen door builders, and thus Romney is a hypocrite. No. It’s that he was talking from an Ivory Tower down to and about the voters who cringe everytime he opens his perfectly white mouth. “Those groups….someone making 25…30…35K…..African…..Hispanic……10k worth of free healthcare…….” Patronization is in the GOP’s dna which means it really is a class-gap thing. It’s elitists vs those groups of swarthy unwashed tired and poor masses of grubby hands and mealy mouths…….
If, in defeat, Romney and his pretty wife can only continue their train of thought they left off at debate 3, then this is a symptom of a far, far greater societal ill than just gaffe-gate. It means that the rich have become so out of touch with the electorate that an unbridgeable gap has evolved.( a gap so wide that not even an ironing board/dining table can bridge it). Jindal can point out that the candidate has no clothes, (no tatoos either), all he wants. He’s just a voice in the wilderness of our societies’ infrastructural divide which has become as concretely reinforced as girders on the bridge to nowhere, man.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
8:55 am
Recon 0311
“As we observe the riots in Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece due to austerity brought on by socialism and buying votes we see America’s future under Democrats”
You really ought to read Jay’s comments before you post. That way, you’ll at least sound a little bit thoughtful.
” When Romney, in the first debate, promised a tax cut to the middle class, he wasn’t promising them a gift? When he wooed his backers on Wall Street by telling them that he would repeal Dodd Frank, abolish the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau and lower corporate taxes, that wasn’t promising a gift?
When he went to Viriginia to promise to build even more nuclear-powered submarines that just happened to be built right there in Virginia, that wasn’t a gift? When he went to coal country to promise to weaken environmental regulations that protect the air we breathe, that wasn’t a gift? When he traveled to Florida to promise to replace $716 billion in Medicare funding allegedly cut by the Obama administration, that wasn’t a gift?”
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
8:56 am
Why is anything about Romney (yes, I supported and voted for him) considered “news?” He has been proven to be irrelevant. Oh yeah, anything to deflect from our president’s failure to lead on the economy, unemployment, Libya, 4 years of $1 trillion deficits, etc. He’s meeting with BonJovi while the nation remains in a mess. All the while blaming Bush. Focus on Romney so the light stays off of Obama. Different day, same old tired deflect, deflect, deflect.
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
8:56 am
It’s worse than I thought…our esteemed GA Rep, Chip Rogers is pushing the ‘crazy’ beyond the bounds of mere human comprehension…the man is a God-like visionary…
‘President Obama is using a Cold War-era mind-control technique known as “Delphi” to coerce Americans into accepting his plan for a United Nations-run communist dictatorship in which suburbanites will be forcibly relocated to cities.’
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/11/georgia-senate-gets-52-minute-briefing-united-nations-takeover
Not even Jindal is gonna bother trying to talk this dude down…
David
November 15th, 2012
8:56 am
Romney’s gift comments just show what he really thinks about the aveage American wage earner. If your not wealthy then apparently you don’t deserve health care.
The worrysome thing is that he does not even realize how jaded his privaleged childhood and life style have made him, and apparently is not alone.
Stonethrower
November 15th, 2012
8:57 am
It’s the GOP base vs minorities. Yep, that’s the winning formula Mitt.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
8:57 am
RB — “Jay, find that cheap substitute for Xolair yet? Or perhaps would you care to admit you were wrong?”
Where are my freight-haulage data, RB?
Paul
November 15th, 2012
8:57 am
Finn, I’m going to lift your 8:45 and post it elsewhere, if that’s okay with you.
Even if it’s not, I’ll do it anyway!
RB from Gwinnett
November 15th, 2012
8:57 am
Bro, “I think one of the reasons why we’re becoming more “dependent” on welfare is due to wage stagnation over the past 40 years.”
I think it’s due more to 2 factors.
1, the economy has become more global in nature as it’s become easier to ship goods made all over the world to your local store for very little added cost. It’s allowed people in 3rd world places happy to make things for a buck a day to do exactly that. Hard to pay Joe six pack $20/hr for the same work Jing six pack will do for $1/hr.
2. We have a class of people who have figured out its easier to work the benefits system than to actually work and we’ve given them a system that allows it. We have some 10+MM Mexicans here doing jobs these very same people refuse to do even though they are the only jobs they’re qualified to do. They will never escape poverty by working the welfare systems. Never. It takes work and they’re unwilling to do the work.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 15th, 2012
8:59 am
BRO
I don’t disagree with a word you said…but if the topic is Romney’s comment, there is no small grain of truth..however, it’s not like it is news…
Romney’s only a victim of himself…he could have won…but…
Regarding Rush, try listening to Big Ed someday…he is clearly the Rush of the left…that Lawrence O’donnell’s bs is only exceeded by John Gibson..
stands for decibels
November 15th, 2012
8:59 am
Paul, Finn…y’all realize that the CPC had a perfectly reasonable plan to reduce the deficit in an orderly fashion already, right?
http://cpc.grijalva.house.gov/the-peoples-budget/
Banderson
November 15th, 2012
9:01 am
So, now the GOP says socialism caused the economic problems in Greece, Ireland, Iceland, Portugal and Spain. I guess the they couldn’t figure out how to blame Jimmy Carter, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank.
jimmymac
November 15th, 2012
9:02 am
For a very long time I’ve considered Jindal a muppet of the GOP , with a clonelike adherence to the W model from neighboring Texas…….but after all that grovelling around the country the past couple of years dumbing himself down to promote their agenda they (the GOP) have shown him very little respect. He’s supposed to be a smart guy, and he sounds like one here. Anybody remember the Reagan democrats? Make way for the Obama republicans.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
9:03 am
DownInAlbany
What about Pres Obama’s actions regarding Libya do you regard as a failure of leadership? You wanted him to what, land ground troops to overthrow Gaddafi?
A Simple Man
November 15th, 2012
9:04 am
Can’t talk about successes. Can’t keep beating on Bush. Might as spend the next four years talking about Romney.
Tom Middleton
November 15th, 2012
9:04 am
If we’re going to be about freedom, Jay, then we have to be about those individuals and, yes, parties that will help us to be just that.
And if we can’t be free without good health, an education, control over our bodies and families, and, of course, jobs and the right to climb the ladder of achievement, no matter what the color of our skin, then we can’t be free, period.
And who is it offering us these viable necessities we need to make it happen, I mean, besides that absolutely insulting “ go borrow money from your parents”? We elected him, sir, and thank holy God we did. With us and him and Him, we can ALL get there from here!
RB from Gwinnett
November 15th, 2012
9:04 am
I’m aware the jobless numbers are affected by Sandy. I just wanted to know if ya’ll would call this increase a good thing too like you did the one before the election.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
9:04 am
Banderson — “So, now the GOP says socialism caused the economic problems in Greece, Ireland, Iceland, Portugal and Spain. I guess the they couldn’t figure out how to blame Jimmy Carter, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank.”
I guess it finally sunk in that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae couldn’t have caused the crash, either, sinec neither FHLMC nor FNMA did business in any of the *other* countries where the RE market collapsed.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
9:05 am
stands
Thanks for reposting that. I’m gonna steal your post, too!
See, I’m just one of those lazy libs who wants other people to work for me so I can take what they produce and use it.
Wait… doesn’t that mean I’m a con mindlessly repeating what I hear from Rush, Hannity, Boortz and other assorted… what’s the word? Oh yeah…. ‘ilk’?
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
9:05 am
“My dream is an American without a class system.”
There’s no such thing as a “classless” society. That’s a pipe dream.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 15th, 2012
9:06 am
At least now we know the real Mitt.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 15th, 2012
9:06 am
So let me get this straight: When Romney, in the first debate, promised a tax cut to the middle class, he wasn’t promising them a gift?
For people who despise taxation as such, viewing it as theft, it follows very logically. Nice trick, huh?
But we shouldn’t laugh and gloat too much — the liberal disease — but rather should see Mitt Romney’s stunning arrogance and contempt for democratic rights as perfectly typical of the ruling elite in this country, one that ultimately includes both parties. These people will eventually stop at nothing to ram cuts down the people’s throats without the slightest regard for those people’s wishes or needs.
These people are absolutely ruthless – and without the slightest trace of shame.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
9:08 am
I read this Breitbart post a few days ago, and I’ve been trying to figure out what the conservative angle is in sharing this with the world. I could see why a liberal site might release this, but I’m still scratching my head over why a *conservative* site would.
Anyone want to take a stab at explaining the conservative ‘why’ ot this?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/10/Romney-Got-Smaller-Percentage-Of-Mormon-Vote-Than-George-W-Bush
Pandora
November 15th, 2012
9:08 am
This article was well written. In the end…OBAMA 2012!!!!
I’m so happy he won. May God Bless him, his familly, Biden, his family and President Obamas’ administration. 
OBAMA 2012!!!
Michael
November 15th, 2012
9:08 am
Romney is right. He would have been wise enough as President to only give gifts to the rich. Bye Mitt.
clem
November 15th, 2012
9:09 am
don’t remember conservs clamoring for scooter or cheney’s scalp when the outed a cia agent
RB from Gwinnett
November 15th, 2012
9:09 am
Lets just be honest. ALL of our elections have become little more than a vote buying scheme by BOTH parties. They’re all trotting out laundry lists of “stuff” they’re promising to give each and every voting block in exchange for their vote. Very little of it has anything to do with the betterment of this nation.
DannyX
November 15th, 2012
9:10 am
“I’m aware the jobless numbers are affected by Sandy.”
RB, are you sure you didn’t see the headline then rush over here to deliver your “good” news?
After all, you are the one that saw a billboard and used it to declare the real estate market sound a few years back.
Tall
November 15th, 2012
9:12 am
…”To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. ” -Voltaire, philosopher (1694-1778
Mary Elizabeth
November 15th, 2012
9:12 am
If there is a “real” Mitt Romney, then these remarks reflect who he is and how he sees. He is not in Obama’s league. Romney sees humanity with a hierarchial vision; Obama sees with an egalitarian vision. Many of our top CEOs see with the same hierarchial vision as does Romney.
That is why it will be destructive to America’s egalitarian vision if these same corporate CEOs are given the power to control our public schools, just as some of these CEOs attempted to control their employees’ votes. Vision is fundamental to what America becomes. Romney’s vision of humanity is essentially a petty, small-minded, limited vision, not an expansive, inclusive one. Thank God he was not elected to be America’s President, with the power to represent and to mold our nation to his vision. This election was pivotal. Providence, imo, took a hand in shaping our destiny.
Maria S
November 15th, 2012
9:13 am
I’m totally in favor of splitting up this country into Red states and Blue states. The Red states don’t take in enough revenue to support their own spending anyway so GOOD RIDDANCE!
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 15th, 2012
9:15 am
Louisiana Governor office is term limited and Jindal cannot run after his term is done. Otherwise I bet he would not survive a primary challenge from one of the wing nuts after these statements. Therein lies the problem with the GOP. Now they will label Jindal & Christie RINOs and purge them for the sake of purity.
W Rychart
November 15th, 2012
9:15 am
There is no question that Romney is spot on. Future elections will be a bidding war between the two parties for the Hispanic vote. The truth hurts doesn’t it?
Paul
November 15th, 2012
9:16 am
Morning, Joe Hussein Mama
“Anyone want to take a stab at explaining the conservative ‘why’ ot this?”
Maybe because conservative power brokers want to add LDS to their list of suspect people because they aren’t really as conservative as they were made out to be?
You’d have thought that race a couple years back in Arizona, where the LDS guy went down to a flaming defeat in a predominately LDS district (polls showed a majority of LDS thought that extreme conservatism did not reflect practicing their religious values) would have given them a clue.
Then again, there’s always Harry Reid if they’re that clueless.
Michael Dice
November 15th, 2012
9:16 am
Mitt never talks about the ‘gifts’ his own church bestowed on the American people when he hid all his money behind their robes in the 1990’s.
JKL2
November 15th, 2012
9:17 am
kchi- My American Dream is not to be in the middle class. My dream is an American without a class system. Thank you.
All we have to do is get rid of those evil rich people. That will fix everything. The problem with your Demwit utopia is someone still has t clean the toilet.
Liberalism: Not going to be happy until everyone is as miserable as we are!
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
9:17 am
‘The truth hurts doesn’t it?’
Not for people that live in reality…
Franklin Levin
November 15th, 2012
9:18 am
It is so wonderful that this creep is not going to be president. He lives in a dream world and it is best that he stay there. What a whiner. He lost because not enough American were fooled.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
9:18 am
clem
“don’t remember conservs clamoring for scooter or cheney’s scalp when the outed a cia agent”
Maybe because neither scooter or cheney outed a cia agent?
Maybe because it was Richard Armitage who identified what was known at the time – that a person was a CIA employee?
willie lynch
November 15th, 2012
9:18 am
DownInAlbany
November 15th, 2012
8:56 am
President Obama meeting with Bon Jovi? Are you serious (rhetorical)? You supported Romney? Sorry to hear that. Had your party not spent the last four years doing what you continue to do now you might have supported the winner.
Get you head out of your…the sand and come to grips with the fact that people saw the Bush debacle as a legitimate claim for the president to make. They understood the expenditure was necessary to correct prior poor judgment and as our economy continues to improve the Euro zone has slipped back into a recession. A recession that’s fueling riots in Spain and rising right wing violence in Greece. Mind you these countries have instituted the policies championed by those on the right in this country.
Get your head where you can breathe. You might want to start by getting out of Albany.
RB from Gwinnett
November 15th, 2012
9:19 am
“just as some of these CEOs attempted to control their employees’ votes”
I think some of these CEO’s letters to their employees crossed the line, but some of these employees need to understand the realities of the decisions being made and their affect on their employer. I really don’t think most employees are spending any time thinking about where their employer is going to get that $2,000 per employee cash from, but it has to come from somewhere. As you’ve seen since the election, some are getting the message “it’s coming from the paycheck you used to get”. More to come, just wait for it.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
9:19 am
Michael Dice
Did you shop a pre-Thanksgiving sale on tinfoil hats?!!?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 15th, 2012
9:20 am
“The truth hurts doesn’t it?”
Not nearly as bad as the long term effects of truthiness.
Those nearly killed our nation.
JohnnyReb
November 15th, 2012
9:21 am
I see that even though Obama won, many here still are detached from reality.
There was no voter mandate.
Obama won a little over 50% of the popular vote and carried 26 states plus DC.
Yes, he had a big Electoral College number – see popular vote.
The second dillusion is that simply by Obama winning the Right is going to roll over. Not going to happen.
As to Romney’s remarks, I don’t understand why they were necessary even if true. The black vote was Obama’s regardless and would not have changed without Obamacare. See Colin Powell and Oprah Winfrey.
As to Hispanics, they are respected in the white community over blacks not because of color but work ethic. It is disappointing they choose the nanny state over Liberty. As to work ethic – see Obama and golf.
RB from Gwinnett
November 15th, 2012
9:22 am
DannyX, what do you think the AJC’s advertisers would think about the “click counts” on this site being artificially inflated by AJC employees spending their days hitting the site and posting under different name on their blogs? Do you think they’d care at all? Put that on your billboard, Danny, and see if it tells you anything.
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
9:23 am
‘The black vote was Obama’s regardless and would not have changed without Obamacare. See Colin Powell and Oprah Winfrey.’
Dude, you have issues…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
9:24 am
W. Rychart — “There is no question that Romney is spot on. Future elections will be a bidding war between the two parties for the Hispanic vote.”
No, there’s a huge question about it. How many Hispanic people have you discussed the topic with?
“The truth hurts doesn’t it?”
Not at all. Then again, I don’t think the truth is at all what you seem to think it is.
That said, go ahead and keep going with that line of argument. It will serve the opposition well in 2014 and 2016.
AJ
November 15th, 2012
9:24 am
Quite honestly, this man brings out the worst in me. I find myself hoping he will have a nervous meltdown one of these days
Paul
November 15th, 2012
9:25 am
JohnnyReb
“There was no voter mandate.”
How do you define ‘voter mandate”?
Are you making the case that more people did not agree with Pres Obama’s ideas than with Gov Romney’s ideas?
Or are you saying the results don’t count because it wasn’t a wide enough margin? So how wide is ‘enough?’
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
9:26 am
Paul — “Maybe because conservative power brokers want to add LDS to their list of suspect people because they aren’t really as conservative as they were made out to be?”
Hmm. That’s a rather novel take, and one I hadn’t considered. Have you heard it articulated anywhere else?
My wife and I will have to discuss this; as I’ve mentioned before, her family left the LDS when she was a kid.
GT
November 15th, 2012
9:27 am
The Republican Party may understand the need to represent 100% of America, but what they fail to understand is they need to be part of America first. We don’t need an outsider explaining to us our problems. When your support is so cloistered in on part of the country or in one category you are separationists. Jump in get wet or maybe you are afraid you might turn a little left if you get too involved.
willie lynch
November 15th, 2012
9:28 am
W Rychart
November 15th, 2012
9:15 am
“There is no question that Romney is spot on. Future elections will be a bidding war between the two parties for the Hispanic vote.”
That’s ridiculous! The Democrats don’t have to bid for something they already have. The fact that Republicans can only see the Latino vote as all it needs to tip the scales will be seen as disingenuous to that community as it is to everyone else who’s looking at it.
Concentrating solely on the Latino vote is a shortsighted strategy. Jeez, I hope the Republicans get smarter than that. These are minor league ideas on a major league playing field.
GT
November 15th, 2012
9:28 am
Real capitalism is grass rooted like a virus looking for a mutation to enter the body. If the system had been allowed to run its natural course there would have been no need for a car industry bail out. What O had to do is reset the natural process of a hungry industry looking to compete. This was a gift, but not as Romney sees it. Obama saved the working class from the leaches Romney and his type back with bank bailouts that artificially create an economy on the backs of a middle class like a drug dealer.
Tim
November 15th, 2012
9:28 am
See, that’s the trouble with you liberals, Bookman. You think that it’s a “gift” that Romney pledged a tax cut for the middle class. How is it a gift when you already own the money? You’re so programmed to believe the government has a right to everyone’s wallets that you think at tax CUT is a GIFT. This is exactly the ruin of our country–viewpoints like yours. Awaiting the revolution…..
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
9:28 am
Paul — “Maybe because neither scooter or cheney outed a cia agent?”
“Maybe because it was Richard Armitage who identified what was known at the time – that a person was a CIA employee?”
Under the CIA’s rules and regs, Plame was *still* technically considered an agent, even though she hadn’t recently been on an op or been working under cover.
At the time she was outed, the CIA considered Plame *both* an employee and an agent.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 15th, 2012
9:30 am
Committee meeting. Back later today.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 15th, 2012
9:31 am
In bashing Romney’s class-wafare,
Jay Bookman has proved to be……………………..
a good Chuck Schumer tool.
.
lol
GT
November 15th, 2012
9:31 am
The Obama “gift” to the car industry was part of what saved this country from going into a depression. Bush’s bail out of the banking industry saved the rich not this country, and left a weak interpretation of free enterprise. Wall Street reminds me of these antiquated law firms where a young energetic mind is put into the labor pool while a decaying feeble mind of seniority is giving the corner office and supported by the pool. Failure is part of the formula of success but the easy credit of Wall Street allowed for a soft car industry, easy sells, and no accountability, allowed no room for failure. The work force didn’t receive this windfall of entitlement; it was the rich, the investors, and the Ivy League executive with the silver spoon path to the top.
Dirty Dawg
November 15th, 2012
9:31 am
Jay, you nailed it. This is indeed the ‘mindset’ of everyone that identifies themselves as Republican. The ‘makers and takers’…the ‘47%’…the ‘job creators and the moochers’. And whenever I get pushback from my Republican ‘friends’ about this they, with fire in their eyes, give me the whole spiel…then when I point out that we – them and me – are included in the ‘taker’ total according to Mitt because we’re on Medicare and receive Social Security, I get ‘I paid, and am still paying, for those’…exactly my point I say but it just doesn’t matter to them. If it serves to criticize and denigrate Obama, Democrats, Liberals, whatever, they go with it, no matter the truth. I guess the reason I stop short of pointing out to them that the only reason for their hatred thats left is their bigotry, is that I want us to remain ‘friends’…but for the life of me I’m beginning to wonder why.
woodsrocks
November 15th, 2012
9:33 am
What a freakin’ jerk!!!!!
Paul
November 15th, 2012
9:33 am
JHM
Just occurred to me as I read the piece you linked to and I thought about how the extreme cons always seem to want to have a suspect group to blame their ills on.
straitroad
November 15th, 2012
9:33 am
Brosephus,
“As to giving gifts, every single damned politician that runs for office promises something to whatever group they want to get votes from. What free stuff has Obama given away that no other president has given away before him?”
This is not true. Typically in each election the Republican candidate promises more opportunity and freedom while the democrat candidate promises to seize from one group and give to another. The latter was amplified in this election which probably means good news for you and others on this board. While it’s tempting to take what’s given, in the long run it’s not good for the country or the person on the take. No self-respecting person can feel good about oneself living a life in this manner.
Lynnie Gal
November 15th, 2012
9:34 am
–Ronnie Raygun bears repeating: Let’s not forget that Mooch Romney also wanted to eliminate capital gains taxes so that he wouldn’t have to pay a dime in taxes and could live off of those of us that work for a living.
–My special gift from Obama is Romney’s defeat.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 15th, 2012
9:34 am
Awaiting the revolution….
Better stock up on canned goods – it’s gonna be a mighty long wait.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
9:35 am
JHM
Which is why I said based on what we knew at the time. I believe the CIA never verified her status and gave a record of their reasoning until after the special investigation was concluded.
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
9:35 am
‘I guess the reason I stop short of pointing out to them that the only reason for their hatred thats left is their bigotry, is that I want us to remain ‘friends’…’
Dawg, I have struggled similarly, but, I get bogged down with the bigotry angle when I consider how much these same people HATED Bill Clinton. The hate is similar…the reasons for it seem to be malleable…
Paul
November 15th, 2012
9:36 am
JHM
But the larger issue is still the number of people on the Left who think it was Cheney or Libby who ‘outed’ Plame.
gm
November 15th, 2012
9:36 am
Wow this is the right and there idiots, what about all the people who voted for Obama in Ohio, Mich, who have jobs do they want free stuff two?
How about all people in Paul Ryan District who voted for Obama do they want free stuff? The rest of the country saw what a fake Romney was, only the confederates of the south who receives more assistant from the gov because the south leads in poverty voted for these idiot.
How about all the whites in Iowa, VT, Main, RI, Wi, who voted for Obama? this is why the Rep and the conservatives southern white male are on the decline and no one takes them serious anymore.
Moderate Line
November 15th, 2012
9:39 am
Obama’s campaign strategy was to trash Romney which is exactly the same campaign strategy used against Kerry in 2004. It work for Bush and it worked for Obama. I am sure in the future it will be used again. However, I believe it is time to stop trashing Romney and move on. He was no bigger a liar or a flip flopper than Obama as proven by politifact. Nor was he anymore hypocritical than Obama. They were pretty much equal or different by a few degrees. The reason he lossed are many. My main issue with Romney was we have been cutting taxes since 2000 and our economy has not been the better for it so I don’t believe it is going to work now.
I can point to hypocrisy on both sides. It is a rather easy thing to do. However, I believe Romney lost because he really did not provide much of an alternative. The race was close because the economy is doing rather mediocre.
clem
November 15th, 2012
9:41 am
part of the reason is they have theirs and do not want other to get it…..but what i don’t understand is why most of these middle americans dont rebel against corporate captains. greed at top at all time high. and they think their ship don’t stink
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 15th, 2012
9:41 am
There was no voter mandate.
Please pass that along to Congressional Republicans.
entitled baby
November 15th, 2012
9:42 am
Wah wah wah
SwamiDave
November 15th, 2012
9:42 am
Many of the things Romney promised would have been gifts. Unless tax cuts reduce taxes below the taxes owed, they are never “gifts”. Allowing people to keep what is theirs already is not a gift.
Promising transfer payments and benefits funded by others is a gift. It would be a gift from the earner if given freely – it is likewise when funded by confiscated earnings.
Liberalism – Charity with Other People’s Money!
-SD
Tealiban Party
November 15th, 2012
9:44 am
It’s here! It’s here! UPS just dropped off my Obama gift!!! I love it! Thank you so much President Obama.
Ronald Reagan
November 15th, 2012
9:44 am
We need another President like George W. that can actually run a country! An eight year training program just don’t get it!
Remember Benghazi! Remember Benghazi! Remember Benghazi! Liberals are good at reciting “one liners!”
DannyX
November 15th, 2012
9:44 am
“How about all people in Paul Ryan District who voted for Obama do they want free stuff?”
I wonder if Paul Ryan voted for Obama? After all, Ryan scored a lot of free stuff for his district using Obama stimulus funds.
Paul
November 15th, 2012
9:45 am
clem
“.but what i don’t understand is why most of these middle americans dont rebel against corporate captains. ”
That is a mystery. As Bill Kristol of the National Review said the other day, letting the top-tier rates expire will not have any negative economic consequences and it’s a mystery why Republicans want to fall on their swords over tax cuts for millionaires so they can keep more of their toys, especially as half of them voted for Obama and half live in Hollywood.
I think we’ve witnessed some pretty effective brainwashing on rank-and-file Republicans.
Either that, or they’re preparing for new careers as water carriers.
Doggone/GA
November 15th, 2012
9:45 am
“Dawg, I have struggled similarly, but, I get bogged down with the bigotry angle”
Bigotry is not only race related. Bigots come in all stripes and colors and have many targets. Party affiliation economic status, education…all can trigger bigotry. And in the case of Clinton, they all did.
Tap Out
November 15th, 2012
9:46 am
We didn’t buy what Mitt was selling during the campaign….ain’t about to start now.
gm
November 15th, 2012
9:47 am
When will the right face the truth, young voters dont listen to scum bags like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Neal B. this works with confederate voters in the south who still live in the 20th century who pretends they hate gov but receive all the gov benefits pell grants, ssi, va checks, medicaid. .
Stand in line Romney with McCain, Rush, Hannity and the rest of the southern conservatives white males who Obama has defeated, the 21st century is hear and there is nothing you can do about it.
Lord Help Us
November 15th, 2012
9:47 am
The ‘free stuff’ excuse is a hoot coming from the red states that are net ‘takers’ of federal monies.
The delusional psychosis of the conned apparently inhibits the acknowledgement of this reality…
Dan Edwards
November 15th, 2012
9:48 am
Romney lost because he reminds working Americans of the boss they hate. Someone more concerned about short term profits or “flips” that they cut everything that provides a stable long term ecosystem.
Even beggars are American; one’s self worth should not be based on how much money they make or IQ. It should be based on the blood, sweat, and tears of the humble and the self sacrifice to raise others up.
I didn’t see sacrifice or sweat with Romney, I saw someone who was just a better poker player.
Government needs to understand about the ecology of being American. You open up free trade with countries that do not have the same standard of living as America does and you only end up lowering your own standard of living to support theirs. And what do you get for it? A .10 cent cheaper bauble or shiny piece of plastic crap.
Logic_101
November 15th, 2012
9:49 am
It is clear that Romney is incapable of realizing that he lose on the merits, or lack of merits in his candidacy. A challenger should get at least a 20% boost from a bad economy, That together with his base, should have produced a victory of the order of 55% of the electorate. Instead, the man who spit on military families and veterans during his 47% speech to rich selfish people and his acceptance speech at the Republicans convention never could connect with Americans. In his world his cowardice, typified by his draft dodging during a war he supported, but echoed in his business dealings that went afoul of the law, seem to be due to someone else. His mocking of the idea that we are all in this together, his delusion that there is such a thing as a self made man, forced him to seem aloof from an electorate that knew better. Detached from reality, this failure as a candidate seeks to find some straw to hold on to to protect the myth that he believes about himself. There in lies the weakness of Mitt Romney. It is the weakness and depression his wife alluded to when she said she only feared what would happen if he did not get his way. It is the fear that comes from admitting defeat, my lot is worse than I think it should be, it must be the fault of someone else. In this case, women, minorities and the people that actually built this country, that actually defended this country, voted for a man who is this country, compassionate, intelligent, multicultural , industrious America. In the end, Joe the Plumber or Mitt Romney view Americans as takers. In th real world,the rest of us know who the takers are.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 15th, 2012
9:49 am
“Yes, he had a big Electoral College number – see popular vote.”
it’s only a landslide when a republican wins 300+ electoral college votes
right?
williebkind
November 15th, 2012
9:49 am
I see in the AJC the news media is giving Obama a year to make things better. So please dont die before 2014 or you will miss out on the good times. Why are you talking about Romney? Have you heard about the cover up by the president where four Americans were murdered?
Will CNN/AJC find new meanings to words to excuse Obama for lying to America?
Jefferson
November 15th, 2012
9:49 am
Ever wonder why he lost ?? Not me….