Another little temper tantrum from John McCain
UPDATE at 3:05: In his press conference this afternoon, President Obama was quite forceful in his defense of Ambassador Rice:
“Let me say specifically about Susan Rice: She has done exemplary work she has represented the U.S. and our interests in the U.N. with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace. If Senator McCain and Senator Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. And I’m happy to have that discussion with them. But for them to go after the U.N. ambassador? Who had nothing to do with Benghazi? And was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received? To besmirch her reputation is outrageous.”
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This is just stupid.
An increasingly petty and petulant Sen. John McCain has gone off the deep end again, announcing that if U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice is nominated to replace Hillary Clinton as secretary of State, he would attempt to filibuster her nomination.
His reason?
Because Rice, serving as a foreign policy spokesperson for the Obama administration, went on Sunday talk shows shortly after the attacks in Benghazi to say the following, after noting that an investigation was still underway and the details were unclear:
“But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.
We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to — or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in — in the wake of the revolution in Libya are — are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.
We’ll wait to see exactly what the investigation finally confirms, but that’s the best information we have at present.”
That version of events turned out to be incorrect in one relatively small detail. Subsequent investigation has determined that there had not been “a small number of people” protesting outside the consulate before a force of roughly 150 armed men rushed the facility, killing U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens. Three other Americans also died in the attacks.
Some conservatives have attempted to read great importance into that incorrect detail. In fact, McCain and others, including Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, wish to declare Rice unqualified to be secretary of State for having made that statement.
It is truly a ridiculous position to take, for two glaringly obvious reasons:
1.) Compare Rice’s statement to the best then-secret intelligence assessment of the CIA at the time she appeared on the Sunday talk shows:
“The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations. This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and as currently available information continues to be evaluated.”
Clearly, Rice’s statements on ABC and other stations that weekend accurately reflected the best intelligence available to her and others at the time. Trying to declare her unfit to be secretary of State on that basis is nonsense.
And McCain has every reason to know that it is nonsense, which brings us to …
2.) In 2005, at the start of his second term, President Bush nominated Condoleezza Rice to replace Colin Powell as secretary of State. And Rice, as you may recall, had her own rather extensive history of statements on Sunday talk shows that later turned out to be incorrect, with consequences that were far more profound and costly to this nation than the tragedy at Benghazi. More than 4,000 American men and women were to die in a war founded on those statements.
As Condi Rice told Wolf Blitzer on CNN on Sept. 8, 2002, regarding Saddam Hussein:
“We do know that he is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon. We do know that there have been shipments going into Iran, for instance — into Iraq, for instance, of aluminum tubes that really are only suited to — high-quality aluminum tools that are only really suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs. …we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.”
By 2005, the whole world knew that statement by Rice, along with others by President Bush, Vice President Cheney and others had been false. Saddam had no nuclear program; the aluminum tubes had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction. Their explanation for those false statements was that they had merely relied on the best intelligence available from the CIA, and can’t be held accountable if those assessments were wrong. (There is considerable evidence that Rice, Bush, Cheney and others in fact cherry-picked the evidence to suit the case they wanted to build, but we’ll set that aside for the moment.)
Despite these false statements by Rice — again, statements with grave national consequences — Senate Democrats in 2005 did not launch a filibuster in an attempt to halt her confirmation. The vote to approve her was 85-13. Among those voting to confirm her were McCain and Graham.
Also voting to confirm Rice were Sen. Joe Biden. And Sen. Hillary Clinton. And yes, Sen. Barack Obama as well.
The parallels between the two cases are uncanny, right down to the gender, race and surname of the main character. But the differences in how the two cases are being handled is more startling still, and all too revealing of just how unhinged and hypocritical many of today’s Republicans have become.
If President Obama believes that Ambassador Rice is the best person to serve this country as secretary of State, he should not hesitate to nominate her. If McCain and others wish to make the case to the American people why Rice is unqualified, they should likewise not hesitate to do so.
But by doing so, they will be drawing more attention to their inadequacies than to those they imagine in Rice.
– Jay Bookman
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Joe Hussein Mama
November 14th, 2012
5:04 pm
jconservative — “I have no idea what kind of relationship Obama has with him but my nominee for State is Senator Dick Lugar.”
Sounds good to me. Lugar’s got a lot of experience in that area and he’ll be available to take the job, having lost his Senate seat.
I recommend former Senator Chuck Hagel for Defense or else Colin Powell.
josef
November 14th, 2012
5:05 pm
JHM
And which Bund would that be…? I thought my buddy JohnnyReb was a Zionist. Now you tell me he’s a Bundist…hmmm
clem
November 14th, 2012
5:10 pm
“get off my front yard” yells mcnasty
Recon 0311 2533
November 14th, 2012
5:10 pm
“I recommend former Senator Chuck Hagel for Defense or else Colin Powell.”
Heavens, I actually agree with JHM on something.
kayaker 71
November 14th, 2012
5:13 pm
Joe, 4:59,
Yeah, you are probably right. Nasty is probably too kind. I am in mourning. Officially. I just cannot see, for the life of me, how so many people could be so wrong. But these are the words of an old white guy that just can’t help it. And, for sure, it ain’t over yet, not by a long shot. Anger is not the right word…… sadness might describe it much better.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 14th, 2012
5:14 pm
Recon — “Heavens, I actually agree with JHM on something.”
That’s you and Doom in one day, Recon.
Better watch out; you’ll be wearing Birkenstocks and smelling of patchouli before you know it!
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 14th, 2012
5:14 pm
Josef
I see छोटे मूत मूत है जो छोटी लड़की की तरह रोता is back
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 14th, 2012
5:18 pm
JHM
To round out your foursome all you need is yaker
JamVet
November 14th, 2012
5:18 pm
Hagel for SecDef?!
Hell to the yeah!
A North Platte native and big Husker fan to boot!
And with guts enough to lambaste Bush/Cheney, calling Iraq “the most dangerous foreign-policy blunder in this country since Vietnam.”
lovelyliz
November 14th, 2012
5:19 pm
Anyone who nominates Sarah Palin to be VPOTUS automatically loses athe right to call anyone else unqualified for anything.
Repro
November 14th, 2012
5:20 pm
McCain has outlived his usefulness, and its high time he rode off into the sunset to live in one of his countless mansions. He has entered his second childhood.
clem
November 14th, 2012
5:21 pm
hagel for defense; powell for state; leave kerry in senate. if paul oneal still capable give him a chance since he was so right on tax cuts to begin with.
josef
November 14th, 2012
5:21 pm
COMMON SENSE
Yeah. But give him a break, it does get stuffy in there, ya know…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 14th, 2012
5:22 pm
K71 — “Yeah, you are probably right. Nasty is probably too kind. I am in mourning. Officially.”
Look, the world’s not going to come to an end over the election. I recognize that you’re upset, and that you maybe even feel misled and/or cheated. But frankly, I think the thing to do is to decompress a little bit — maybe even go cold turkey on politics for a little while — if it’s upsetting you this much.
Think of it like this: when you were younger and you got dumped by a GF, did you obsess over being dumped, hang around outside her window or just move along and get on with your life? The obsessing and hanging-on-to-upset part’s not healthy. It’ll lead you to kick the dog and yell at your wife (or worse, yell at the dog and kick your wife); believe me, I know.
And seriously, the more you let on that you’re upset, the more we’re going to needle you. It’s how Doom and I get along; when one of us gets a rise out of the other, we keep pick, pick, picking in order to get a reaction. You hang around in here too long while the pressure cooker’s on in your head, and you’re going to blow your stack and draw a red card.
So seriously, do the constructive thing and decompress a little. Let politics blow over for a little while; Jay’s will still be here when you get back.
Well, that’s my diagnosis and prescription, anyway.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 14th, 2012
5:24 pm
C. Sense — “JHM To round out your foursome all you need is yaker ”
I’m working on him.
We were having some very polite discussions last week, and I’m trying to help him get back to the point where we can pick that back up again.
Moderate Line
November 14th, 2012
5:24 pm
Jay
November 14th, 2012
4:18 pm
Right, Moderate.
Because a measly 13 “no” votes out of 48 Democratic senators (Rice 2005) is exactly like using a filibuster to block a confirmation vote from even taking place (Rice 2013).
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The measly 13 votes were the most since 1825. Were did I compare the use of a filibuster to block a vote to 13 no votes? In fact I don’t believe you can compare the two. How do you compare one person’s threat of filabuster to 13 people voting no. If the best counter you have is to put words in my mouth then your argument falls short. I merely point out that people who voted no in one case and yes in the other are essentially the same. And it may turn out that the Republicans are more hypocritical on this than Dems but that does not take away from the fact that C. Rice confirmation had the most nays up to this point and that Kerry, Boxer and Durbin are no better than McCain. I merely pointed out like most sales people you are only pointing out the characteristics that are convenient and failing to mention some of the contentious statements made by those in C. Rice’s confirmation.
So to answer Right Moderate, Right Jay nice try.
http://www.democracynow.org/2005/1/26/sen_byrd_rice_responsible_for_most
getalife
November 14th, 2012
5:27 pm
Don’t sign a petition cons.
Love it or leave it.
Get somewhere.
Jm
November 14th, 2012
5:27 pm
Obama doing a stellar job inspiring confidence in America, capitalism etc
Dow down a cool 185 more points
Just 680 points since he was elected
Obama, bad for America
As predicted
Recon 0311 2533
November 14th, 2012
5:27 pm
JamVet,
Both Powell and Hagel are former military. Colin Powell at the senior brass level and Hagel a down in the mud and blood combat NCO infantryman. Both are moderate politically and would serve the military and country well in the capacity of Secretary of Defense. Far better picks than John Kerry who if nominated would be challenged down to the wire by Republicans.
getalife
November 14th, 2012
5:28 pm
No, don’t hire a republican because it ends with a stupid gop scandal.
josef
November 14th, 2012
5:29 pm
Aw. Kayaker is a crusty ole curmudgeon on the opposite side of the fence from me on just about every issue that comes down the pike, but he (unlike a few others) is not without redeeming qualities…
josef
November 14th, 2012
5:30 pm
getalife
Just being EOI here, but aren’t those petitions floating around now up to 30 states taking the option of “leaving it?”
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 14th, 2012
5:30 pm
JM
so tell us why the stock market was so high during his first term?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 14th, 2012
5:30 pm
The Dow opened at 8279.63 on 1/20/09.
The Dow closed today at 12,570.95.
Geez….
Joe Hussein Mama
November 14th, 2012
5:31 pm
I know Brosephus agrees with Hagel as SecDef, so we appear to have an early favorite.
How about some other key Cabinet positions? Are some staying on, or is the President cleaning house?
How about Treasury? I think our cons are agreed that Geithner needs to go. Transportation? Agriculture? I could see Energy being important; even if we don’t push green energy, we definitely need to move forward with improving and upgrading the national power grid.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 14th, 2012
5:34 pm
Recon — “Both Powell and Hagel are former military. Colin Powell at the senior brass level and Hagel a down in the mud and blood combat NCO infantryman. Both are moderate politically and would serve the military and country well in the capacity of Secretary of Defense.”
That’s why I like them both. IMO, SecDef and SecVA are positions that really should have a veteran filling them. I doubt he’d take it, but Jim Webb would be a good choice for one of those slots, too. From what i understand, Webb’s tired of and disgusted with politics.
Christopher London, Esq.
November 14th, 2012
5:35 pm
INSANE MCCAIN – The Landslide Loser to Obama STILL Has A Chip on his Shoulder
PTSD Senator on the Warpath In Serious Need of OBAMACARE
Mitt Romney lost the election to President Obama. The Democrats gained seated in the Senate and marginally closed the gap in the House but Republicans like serial opportunist John McCain and Lindsey Graham think that the Benghazi Scandal is their best hopes to hurt President Obama. According to ABC News the President bristled at their threat to ‘Block Susan Rice Nomination Over Benghazi’. McCain, channeling his inner crazy, thinks America needs to convene a Watergate styled panel to investigate the President.
Dr. Larry Hunter (former U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Chief Economist) in 2008 stated: “The Republican Party is a dead rotting carcass with a few decrepit old leaders stumbling around like zombies in a horror version of ‘Weekend With Bernie,’ handcuffed to a corpse.” Now that rotting corpse resembling a U.S. Senator who has had four years to stew over his landslide defeat to President Barack Obama has had to sit back flustered only to witness him get reelected. Angling for a scandal to tar and feather the President with, since we no longer lynch unacceptable black men in America, Insane McCain finally thinks he has found one and members of his Looney Tunes Party who have still not learned any lessons are going along with these two ass clowns. The only problem is that the ‘Benghazi debacle’ is a clear case of over reaching. Mitt Romney tried to take the President out with that one and now he sitting in one of his four homes watching the President on one of his wide screen televisions hoping that McCain and Lindsey can do what he and Paul Ryan could not do, take down a Democratic President.
Reasonable men no longer question John McCain’s manhood, values or character because it is by now clear to all that the “Fiction” of McCain’s legacy is a greater illusion than his testicular fortitude. The selling of the “Maverick John McCain” is a fiction perpetuated by his handlers and friends in the media. “WAR HEROES” do not run around telling anyone and everyone that they can find how how damn heroic that they are. Do they? Ever listen to Bruce Springsteen’s Song Glory Days? Heroes do not live to tell tall tales. Myths do. Heroes die. Liars never tell you how they graduated 4th from the bottom of their class at the Naval Academy, how their legacy admission is the only reason they were not expelled or that they were never promoted to Admiral because McCain was of such low intellect, had little if any intellectual curiosity about flight plan preparation, spent more of his time behind a bar stool and chasing skirts than actually studying, crashed numerous military aircraft and was hardly viewed by anyone at the Naval Academy as a serious Naval Aviator. In fact, he was more enamored with the title “Naval Aviator” then he was in actually becoming a marginally proficient pilot and he was known to have spent most of his time at the Naval Academy in a drunken stupor. McCain was a terrible pilot who crashed and destroyed many planes and probably should not have been given his assignment in Vietnam where he was shot down, briefly tortured and then sung like a canary for the Viet Cong. Ask Ross Perot and what he will tell you is that McCain is a soulless opportunistic fraud who gravitates towards the limelight and rests his laurels on—being shot down and tortured. Now if you want to ask whose incompetence resulted in more military deaths, you need only look at John McCain. If only he spent more of his time at the Naval Academy studying, learning how to fly a plane or giving up his legacy seat for someone more qualified and dedicated, maybe a few lives could have been spared.
John McCain who barely escaped from the Keating Five Scandal was literally the Madoff of his generation of U.S. Senators now thinks Benghazi is that scandal that can do to Obama what the Impeachment hearings did to Clinton. Let me tell Mr. McCain Ben Gazzi is an Italian guy from Brooklyn who wants his name back and that crazy old coot otherwise known as Insane McCain needs to find a retirement home already and get some Obamacare for his PTSD.
Mr. McCain, Ben Gazzi is an Italian guy from Brooklyn who wants his name back. Insane McCain is a crazy old coot who needs to find a retirement home already & get some Obamacare!
josef
November 14th, 2012
5:41 pm
CHRISTOPHER
I actually read what you wrote. You’re so full of sh*t. You sound like the swiftboaters. Have you no shame at all…?
kayaker 71
November 14th, 2012
5:42 pm
joseph, 5:30,
At last count, there were several. When, in recent history, has this happened to the electorate in this country? Not in my memory and I have been around for a long time. Half of the country is not happy, not happy at all. Does that mean that they are wrong and you are right? You liberals might gloat at the Bozo win, however, the gloating hits a dead end when someone asks, ” What the hell do we do now”? What is in store for us? The last four years have not been successful to say the least. Do you really think that Bozo and the gang will come across the isle and embrace the opposite side? You know, the other half of America. He is supposed to the president of all of the people, not just the ones he likes and that go along with his insanity. Half of America is saddened by this sorry excuse for a president…… nearly 50%. But he is too busy being Bozo. He doesn’t have time for detractors….. he is the PRESIDENT!! So gloat all you will…… but it has sort of an empty ring to it. Sort of like winning the battle but losing the war.
Georgia
November 14th, 2012
5:42 pm
Maybe it was naive of Americans to believe that a video would prompt more violence symptomatic of the Arab Spring. But the Salman Rushdie risked death for a novel. And some cartoon drawing of mohammed caused a real outburst not that long ago. Im probably in deep voodoo myself right now for not capitalizing mohammed. No, it’s this Patreus disaster that’s got everyone’s boxers in a bunch. He resigned awfully fast. If there was a classified materials breach, then this is the biggest story of the last five years. More likely it’s just regular old jersey shore life imitating art, and a bunch of horn dogs in high places. Great fun, though. Every new face is more intriguing than the last one, and more beautiful too. The only one rode hard and put away wet is poor Holly Patraeus. I wonder how the good general is fairing, having to weather the woman scorn. Oh, this is no ordinary woman scorn, indeed, this is more like FrankenScorn.
Moderate Line
November 14th, 2012
5:43 pm
If I were Obama I would not nominate Rice because you are going to allow the Republicans to drill her on Benghazi. However, it now becomes a game of chicken with someone who really can’t lose. What does McCain have to lose? He can retire whenever he wants.
Doggone/GA
November 14th, 2012
5:45 pm
“But the Salman Rushdie risked death for a novel”
I don’t think that’s accurate. His life was certainly put in danger because of the novel he wrote, but I don’t think he knew in advance that it would cause such a stir.
Recon 0311 2533
November 14th, 2012
5:45 pm
JHM,
I have a high regard for Jim Webb but he’s a maverick of maverick’s and I don’t think he would fit well in an Obama administration or any administration. His fling as the Sec. of Navy didn’t work out too well and not because he was doing a poor job.
deegee
November 14th, 2012
5:46 pm
Maybe John McCain wants to be Secretary of State. Wouldn’t he be a hoot?
Doggone/GA
November 14th, 2012
5:46 pm
“If I were Obama I would not nominate Rice because you are going to allow the Republicans to drill her on Benghazi”
Somehow I don’t think she’ll disolve in tears and rush out of the room. She works at the UN. She’s tough, she can handle it.
kayaker 71
November 14th, 2012
5:48 pm
John Bolton would be a good choice. Do I see liberal heads exploding?
Cosby
November 14th, 2012
5:48 pm
Rice is just another puppet in the Barry showcase. One would think someone with the credentials of Rice would have a mind of her own..but I guess being a puppet is ok with her. On another note, I am tired of hearing about taxing the rich…CBO, and most financial experts say if you took all their wealthm, the government could run for about a month…now this tax the rich theme seems like small ‘taters when it comes to the real problem..kind of like a snow flake on a ice berg…so why does Barry not address the real problem rather than using a cliche’..but wait, the news media repeats it like it will be a big deal and cut the budget to 0….but then I guess the stupid US citizen and about 2/3rds of the media are really that stupid.
independent thinker
November 14th, 2012
5:48 pm
The ambassador was in Benghazi because with the CIA they were trying to get the bad guys and crazies to surrender and let the US backed new government do its job. I think I remember a period in Iraq war where the government was touch and go with the radicals trying to overthrow it.How it was decided for the Ambassador to do this without further protection remains to be seen but it is clear the US was trying to keep a low profile to gain trust of the locals.
The whole Benghazi craziness was amplified by the cons, Faux News and that crazy broad sleeping with Petraeus. Even Breitbart admits she put out along with Fox false stories about CIA having warnings and holding prisoners based on inside sources. . Yes Breitbart- November 12. Pretty scary when a president has CIA, the Murdoch media and opposition party all ganging up on him. One wonders what would have occured on November 7 if Romney won. Petreaus and the broad probably would have been rewarded handsomely. Maybe Cantor was trying to get slut no. 2 some rewards too.
josef
November 14th, 2012
5:49 pm
kayaker
I will disagree on half the country being saddened to despair. Maybe 20 %, Most of those who voted for Romney are quite capable of living with the outcome. Like I’ve said here before, almost 50% of the electorate didn’t bother to participate. Half the country don’t give a happy sh*t….
Doggone/GA
November 14th, 2012
5:50 pm
“John Bolton would be a good choice. Do I see liberal heads exploding?”
Too soon to ask. Give us some time to quit laughing first.
Jay
November 14th, 2012
5:51 pm
“John Bolton would be a good choice. Do I see liberal heads exploding?”
Laughing, yes. Exploding, not so much, no.
Doggone/GA
November 14th, 2012
5:52 pm
Josef – got something that might make you feel a bit better about being “technologically challenged” My new PC came with 2 plugin devices and try as I might, I couldn’t figure out what they were. So I took pictures and sent them to tech support at HP…and they can’t identify them either!
getalife
November 14th, 2012
5:52 pm
josef,
They should self deport.
Good riddance.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 14th, 2012
5:52 pm
Give us some time to quit laughing first.
Four years sounds about right.
Doggone/GA
November 14th, 2012
5:52 pm
Jay – GMTA?
getalife
November 14th, 2012
5:53 pm
bolton embarrassed our country.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 14th, 2012
5:54 pm
Just did some quick Googling and there’s apparently a female candidate for SecDef or National Security Adviser. Michele Flournoy is a former Undersecretary of Defense.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Flournoy
I know nothing about her, but apparently she’s on the short list.
Romney Blames Loss on Obama’s ‘Gifts’ to Minorities and Young Voters
November 14th, 2012
5:54 pm
A week after losing the presidential election to President Obama, Mitt Romney blamed his overwhelming electoral loss on what he said were big “gifts” that the president had bestowed on loyal Democratic constituencies — including young voters, African-Americans and Hispanics.
In a conference call on Wednesday afternoon with his national finance committee, Mr. Romney said that the president had followed the “old playbook” of wooing specific interest groups — “especially the African-American community, the Hispanic community and young people,” Mr. Romney explained — with targeted gifts and initiatives.
“In each case they were very generous in what they gave to those groups,” Mr. Romney said.
“With regards to the young people, for instance, a forgiveness of college loan interest, was a big gift,” he said. “Free contraceptives were very big with young college-aged women. And then, finally, Obamacare also made a difference for them, because as you know, anybody now 26 years of age and younger was now going to be part of their parents’ plan, and that was a big gift to young people. They turned out in large numbers, a larger share in this election even than in 2008.”
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/14/romney-blames-loss-on-obamas-gifts-to-minorities-and-young-voters/
Lord Help Us
November 14th, 2012
5:55 pm
‘John Bolton would be a good choice. ‘
Allen West is looking for work…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 14th, 2012
5:55 pm
K71 — “John Bolton would be a good choice. Do I see liberal heads exploding?”
For what, Secretary of Bad Temper?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 14th, 2012
5:56 pm
Okay, I’m out. All be well and drive safely.
Doggone/GA
November 14th, 2012
5:56 pm
“Mitt Romney blamed his overwhelming electoral loss on what he said were big “gifts” that the president had bestowed on loyal Democratic constituencies ”
Looks like it’s a good think we didn’t elect that crybaby to be President
TM
November 14th, 2012
5:58 pm
Sargent Rice Schultz—-I Know nothing except what I am told to say. She is either the biggest political hack for the administration or she must be having an affair that has not yet been disclosed.
Doggone/GA
November 14th, 2012
6:00 pm
“I Know nothing except what I am told to say”
Yes, we’ve figured that out about you already. No need for you to brag about it.
josef
November 14th, 2012
6:03 pm
DOGGONE
Confirming my long-held suspicions!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 14th, 2012
6:07 pm
Well, it’s blog posts like Bookman’s here that make me a little sad to be getting older. People ain’t ready to cut old
Cancer FaceMcCain any slack at all. I want to know, what’s wrong with telling a bunch of brats to get off your lawn? So what if you live in Arizona and don’t even have a lawn, just a bunch of sand? It’s the principle of the thing.Anyway, I was about ready to write McCain’s outburst off as just
more ranting by a maniaca little partisan griping when I seen that picture of the Rice woman. Why, she’s one of Those People! Even Obama should have more sense than that.I guess I’d better sign off for the night. Old Ace gets a little jealous of this laptop and starts nuzzling it, wanting his share of the fried pork rinds. Have a good night everybody.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 14th, 2012
6:10 pm
John Bolton for snake catcher maybe
Veteran Observer
November 14th, 2012
6:12 pm
Senator McCain is doing his job of advising the president on his position on Ambassador Rice. Mr Obama would know that if he had any real experience to bring to his job! As long as this man refuses to listen and learn we will suffer as a country! He should stop the posturing as the campaign is over and begin to mend fences with the opposition! Otherwise, he will be a lame duck president without any power or accomplishments!! This discussion is not about Senator McCain, it is about this president and the 50% of the American public he doesn’t represent!
TM
November 14th, 2012
6:12 pm
McCain should just go on the Senate floor and call Rice a liar. Reid has already shown that this is what the senate should do
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 14th, 2012
6:12 pm
Hell Sam Nunn is younger than McCain he would be great LOL
F. Sinkwich
November 14th, 2012
6:14 pm
Much ado about nothing.
Once O’bozo nominates Susan Rice for SEC STATE, his MSM amen chorus will sing her praises in four part harmony, a capella. Then do it again with the Boston Pops just to be sure everyone in America knows how blessed this nation is that she is humbling herself to serve.
She can do no wrong, or has ever done so.
Plus, even if she did, that ho Condy did worse. Right Jay?
Sure, double down on conservative crap
November 14th, 2012
6:15 pm
This….from the man who brought she who shall not be named out of Alaska and into the spot light that showed her to be completely inept and ignorant of basic facts. I use to have respect for John McCain, but after his ridiculous choice of SP for VP I lost all respect for him. He has morphed into an angry partisan old man who needs to retire. Please John McCain, stop making yourself look senile
josef
November 14th, 2012
6:16 pm
VETERAN
Dumb ass…he represents ALL Americans…just like every President from George Washington forward with a brief break in the 1860s…
kayaker 71
November 14th, 2012
6:17 pm
Bozo can’t cover this up with an executive order like he did F&F. This is way out of the park for that sort of chicanery. The public will know the truth. This is too big to hide. And you liberals damn well know it.
Sure, double down on conservative crap
November 14th, 2012
6:20 pm
By reading a few of these comments I see that most of the GOP is still reluctant to recognize that their party is not what the majority of Americans voted for. As my name suggests , they will continue to cling to the belief that they alone know what is best for everyone. YOU LOST……….face facts, leave the bubble.
JamVet
November 14th, 2012
6:21 pm
Bolton for Secretary of Mustaches!
Georgia
November 14th, 2012
6:21 pm
Well, it’s only been one week, but all the talk show hosts on the Right are out of material. Hannity, Rush, Beck, and all the clones have only one word that they use all day long: “REALLY?”
Really is the most overused word now and has been for a long time.. Really is not a point. Really is a self aggrandizing tick where the person saying it kinda leans forward and shakes their head as if they were saying, “I know you din’t”. and then that person thinks they’ve won the argument, or made some game-changing insight, (another overused pos phrase)
That’s all they’ve got one week in: really.
kayaker 71
November 14th, 2012
6:22 pm
joseph, 6:16,
“he represents ALL Americans”……. now that’s about the most inane statement that you have made in awhile. He represents those that support him and his ideology…… nothing else. I am surprised that you would make a statement like that.
Sure, double down on conservative crap
November 14th, 2012
6:22 pm
The big revelations here is MUSLIM CAN ACT LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE, Who Knew??? C Rice allowed thousands of Americans to be blow to bits because she messed up and did not connect the dots. There is your smoking gun you weirdos
Tealiban Party
November 14th, 2012
6:24 pm
Does this mean his Arizona constituants can filibuster John McCain out of the Senate?
“I think we’re doing fine [in Afghanistan]…I think we’ll do fine. The second phase – if I could just make one, very quickly – the second phase is Iraq. There is some indication, and I don’t have the conclusions, but some of this anthrax may – and I emphasize may – have come from Iraq.”
John McCain, on the fall 2001 anthrax attacks in the U.S., October 18, 2001.
“Proponents of containment claim that Iraq is in a “box.” But it is a box with no lid, no bottom, and whose sides are falling out. Within this box are definitive footprints of germ, chemical and nuclear programs.”
John McCain, February 13, 2003.
“I remain confident that we will find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.”
John McCain, June 11, 2003.
getalife
November 14th, 2012
6:25 pm
Yes, Susan Rice replaces Hillary.
You don’t even know the facts yet silly.
Speculation .
Tealiban Party
November 14th, 2012
6:26 pm
Actually, here is the whole article where you can see just how wrong John McCain has been in all matters of foreign policy….
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/28/1095391/-Memorial-Day-Memories-from-John-McCain
F. Sinkwich
November 14th, 2012
6:27 pm
“YOU LOST……….face facts, leave the bubble.”
See my previous posts, whoever you are.
Takers won.
getalife
November 14th, 2012
6:28 pm
Angus King.votes with the Dems.
They should cap filibusters.
josef
November 14th, 2012
6:28 pm
kayaker
Not at all. He is the duly elected President of the republic. He represents US, the citizens and nationals thereof. You may or may not like it, I may or may not like it, but that’s the way the game is played.
clem
November 14th, 2012
6:28 pm
dipwad price lost; there may be hope
getalife
November 14th, 2012
6:29 pm
filky,
Still depressed?
16 is right around the corner.
Chin up American.
getalife
November 14th, 2012
6:33 pm
We need backlash for the senators like mccain running his mouth when he does not know all the facts.
F. Sinkwich
November 14th, 2012
6:33 pm
Shoot, O’bozo can nominate avowed commie Van Jones for SEC DEF and Jay and his minions will swoon.
willie lynch
November 14th, 2012
6:34 pm
Erwin’s cat
November 14th, 2012
4:59 pm
“riiiiight…after all it was only 4 Americans…why all the drama, we lose that many in a Chicago weekend.”
Hell we lose that many in Gwinnett over a weekend.
booger
November 14th, 2012
6:35 pm
A debate moderator comes in to block for Obama and confirms that Obama did call the attack a “terrorist” attack on the first day. Five days later Rice, as a White House spokesman states that it appears to be a reaction to the video on five different broadcasts. I’m sorry but you can’t have it both ways.
It’s also interesting that Generals Petraus and Allen sexual adventures have become the center piece of the main stream media’s attention while Libya, where our soverign territory was attacked, and four people were killed, has died a quite death.
F. Sinkwich
November 14th, 2012
6:35 pm
“He represents US, the citizens and nationals thereof.”
Yep. That’s why America is so over. I get it.
TM
November 14th, 2012
6:36 pm
getalife- what about your guy Reid- does he get a free pass for running his mouth
Jym Allyn
November 14th, 2012
6:36 pm
McCain was, is, and always will be a self-serving hot dog. Those who knew him in flight school knew that his primary reason for becoming a pilot is that it increased his chances of getting laid.
He also left his first wife for the opportunity to marry the rich daughter of a liquor distributor.
He not only thinks that the war in Vietnam was honorable but was wrong about Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya.
The irony of McCain and the Faux Heads is that it was the CIA who screwed up in Benghazi and the confused reports that seem to come from Obama were caused by the CIA misinformation. Obama’s restraint on the matter was his being responsible and NOT causing further damage to the CIA.
HOWEVER, the architect of the sham “surge” in Iraq and our “mission impossible” pacification in Afghanistan is someone named David Petraeus, who is the darling of the Neo-Conned and the Faux Head fools. The sperm and blood on Petraeus’ samurai sword only make McCain and the Neo-Conned look even more foolish.
atljack
November 14th, 2012
6:37 pm
I truly enjoy the right-wing nonsense I see on blogs.
You have lost 4 of the last 6 Presidential elections in the past 24 years. And really you lost 5 of 6. Gore beat Bush by 500,000 votes and had only a 535 vote lead (by GOP measure) and the Supremes would not allow a recount)
So keep on with the Benghazi conspiracy, the born in Kenya nonsense, the “show us the college records nonsense ( Obama graduated Magna from Harvard Law School) and basically just wild, accusations over and over and over.
Keep it up. I enjoy it and it keeps a Democrat in the White House.
Banderson
November 14th, 2012
6:38 pm
McCain fights to stay relevant to the party base and here we are discussing him. He knows that the crazies are the GOP primary voters, so he needs to say what they want to hear. Power, folks, just give him the power.
getalife
November 14th, 2012
6:38 pm
The Patreaus scandal is the only scandal.
kayaker 71
November 14th, 2012
6:39 pm
Tamario Wise….. only 19 years old and one of the leaders of the Jack Boys gang……. the gift that keeps on giving.
Georgia
November 14th, 2012
6:40 pm
Besmirch?
Moderate Line
November 14th, 2012
6:41 pm
Current members who voted against Condoleezza Rice. Maybe they are not as bad as McCain who is threatening a filibuster but the fact Jay failed to mention any of these is a convenient omission like selling a used car without informing someone it has been in a wreck. McCain will pay dearly for his partisan attack on on Obama’s nominee just like these Senators.(Sarcasm)
John ‘Jack’ Francis Reed
Frank R. Lautenberg
Mark Dayton
Carl Levin
John Forbes Kerry
Richard J. ‘Dick’ Durbin
Daniel Kahikina Akaka Sr.
Thomas ‘Tom’ Harkin
Personally, I would not have nominated her. I think the Benghazi thing will die down. I think it is more of failure than a cover-up but it does keep the story on the front page.
getalife
November 14th, 2012
6:41 pm
tm,
Reid owned mitt.
Krystal'sBalls
November 14th, 2012
6:44 pm
John McCain is an old crabby coot who craves attention and thinks he should be held up as the standardbearer for military/foreign policy simply because he was unfortunate enough to be captured as a POW. Boy has he ridden THAT gravytrain off the rails long long ago. Still bitter about getting his duff handed to him in ‘08. And his sidekick Lindsay Graham – “Haaayyyy…how YOU doin’?!” *two snaps*. They are both annoying as hell. Retire PLEASE!!!!
TM
November 14th, 2012
6:45 pm
Getalife = he did, but he lied on the senate floor but in your world its okay because he is one of you.
Tealiban Party
November 14th, 2012
6:47 pm
kayaker 71
October 30th, 2012
4:20 pm
Romney…. 320. Bozo…. 218. Count on it.
Hooray! Kayaker is back. I was started to worry would detect a rotting smell until finding him slumped over his keyboard. Welcome back ‘yaker!
Travis McGee
November 14th, 2012
6:51 pm
McCain and Graham are apoplectic and angry because of the trouble General Petraeus got himself in.
These ol’ boys had a bromance with the General and I know they have their feelings hurt. Everyone just show a little patience and compassion for McCain and Graham. It’s tough being dumped!
Georgia
November 14th, 2012
6:52 pm
“Dinner’s ready”, said Holly. “I’ll be right down, dear”, said the man in camouflage. He slunk into the dining room in the few seconds Holly had her back turned adjusting the curtains. Holly turned, momentarily surprised by how slippery the man in camouflage had become. He looked down at the plate and saw the frozen tv dinner, still frozen. “Dear? This dinner is….” “IS WHAT?” demanded Holly. “nothing.” Holly sat down across from the man in camouflage, and began to salt her ribeye.
barking frog
November 14th, 2012
6:55 pm
Glad to see many folks here are affirming my opinion of Crash McCain.
He is an embarassment to Arizona and to the Nation.
jerry
November 14th, 2012
6:59 pm
I lost all respect for McCain when he picked the idiot as his running mate. Now he and Gaham are throwing their little tantrum. Poor little boys.
TM
November 14th, 2012
7:03 pm
Don’t worry Jerry you will have Kerry as your SOD so all will be good and safe
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 14th, 2012
7:05 pm
How exactly is McCain truly any different from the balance of DEMS and GOP in Congress? I’m not getting it…they have much more in common than not..
Also, if Petreas had a mistress and was head of CIA and got outed..maybe he shouldn’t be leading CIA:-) If all elected folks in DC were outed for affairs, who would govern…not like this isn’t generally accepted until you get busted…