Another little temper tantrum from John McCain

UPDATE at 3:05: In his press conference this afternoon, President Obama was quite forceful in his defense of Ambassador Rice:

“Let me say specifically about Susan Rice: She has done exemplary work she has represented the U.S. and our interests in the U.N. with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace. If Senator McCain and Senator Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. And I’m happy to have that discussion with them. But for them to go after the U.N. ambassador? Who had nothing to do with Benghazi? And was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received? To besmirch her reputation is outrageous.”

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This is just stupid.

An increasingly petty and petulant Sen. John McCain has gone off the deep end again, announcing that if U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice is nominated to replace Hillary Clinton as secretary of State, he would attempt to filibuster her nomination.

His reason?

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Because Rice, serving as a foreign policy spokesperson for the Obama administration, went on Sunday talk shows shortly after the attacks in Benghazi to say the following, after noting that an investigation was still underway and the details were unclear:

“But our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo. In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to — or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo. And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons, weapons that as you know in — in the wake of the revolution in Libya are — are quite common and accessible. And it then evolved from there.

We’ll wait to see exactly what the investigation finally confirms, but that’s the best information we have at present.”

That version of events turned out to be incorrect in one relatively small detail. Subsequent investigation has determined that there had not been “a small number of people” protesting outside the consulate before a force of roughly 150 armed men rushed the facility, killing U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens. Three other Americans also died in the attacks.

Some conservatives have attempted to read great importance into that incorrect detail. In fact, McCain and others, including Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, wish to declare Rice unqualified to be secretary of State for having made that statement.

It is truly a ridiculous position to take, for two glaringly obvious reasons:

1.) Compare Rice’s statement to the best then-secret intelligence assessment of the CIA at the time she appeared on the Sunday talk shows:

“The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations. This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and as currently available information continues to be evaluated.”

Clearly, Rice’s statements on ABC and other stations that weekend accurately reflected the best intelligence available to her and others at the time. Trying to declare her unfit to be secretary of State on that basis is nonsense.

And McCain has every reason to know that it is nonsense, which brings us to …

2.) In 2005, at the start of his second term, President Bush nominated Condoleezza Rice to replace Colin Powell as secretary of State. And Rice, as you may recall, had her own rather extensive history of statements on Sunday talk shows that later turned out to be incorrect, with consequences that were far more profound and costly to this nation than the tragedy at Benghazi. More than 4,000 American men and women were to die in a war founded on those statements.

As Condi Rice told Wolf Blitzer on CNN on Sept. 8, 2002, regarding Saddam Hussein:

“We do know that he is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon. We do know that there have been shipments going into Iran, for instance — into Iraq, for instance, of aluminum tubes that really are only suited to — high-quality aluminum tools that are only really suited for nuclear weapons programs, centrifuge programs. …we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.”

By 2005, the whole world knew that statement by Rice, along with others by President Bush, Vice President Cheney and others had been false. Saddam had no nuclear program; the aluminum tubes had nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction. Their explanation for those false statements was that they had merely relied on the best intelligence available from the CIA, and can’t be held accountable if those assessments were wrong. (There is considerable evidence that Rice, Bush, Cheney and others in fact cherry-picked the evidence to suit the case they wanted to build, but we’ll set that aside for the moment.)

Despite these false statements by Rice — again, statements with grave national consequences — Senate Democrats in 2005 did not launch a filibuster in an attempt to halt her confirmation. The vote to approve her was 85-13. Among those voting to confirm her were McCain and Graham.

Also voting to confirm Rice were Sen. Joe Biden. And Sen. Hillary Clinton. And yes, Sen. Barack Obama as well.

The parallels between the two cases are uncanny, right down to the gender, race and surname of the main character. But the differences in how the two cases are being handled is more startling still, and all too revealing of just how unhinged and hypocritical many of today’s Republicans have become.

If President Obama believes that Ambassador Rice is the best person to serve this country as secretary of State, he should not hesitate to nominate her. If McCain and others wish to make the case to the American people why Rice is unqualified, they should likewise not hesitate to do so.

But by doing so, they will be drawing more attention to their inadequacies than to those they imagine in Rice.

– Jay Bookman

571 comments Add your comment

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 14th, 2012
2:54 pm

McCain has become a shadow of the man he used to be. How very sad

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 14th, 2012
2:56 pm

Well Fox also does not like the other hat in the ring, Kerry. They are already back to swiftboating him. More GOP shamefulness

stands for decibels

November 14th, 2012
2:58 pm

Now everyone calm down. It’s possible that Gramps has his Rices confused.

Michael

November 14th, 2012
3:00 pm

I use to like John, but he has proven that he does not have the temperment to be a President. He will now go down in history as the person who made Sarah Palin famous. Ugh.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 14th, 2012
3:00 pm

It’s possible that Gramps has his Rices confused.

Snap, crackle or pop?

Fred ™

November 14th, 2012
3:01 pm

Just damn. He should have retired while he was still lucid.

Logical Dude

November 14th, 2012
3:01 pm

Ben Gazi!!!!

catlady

November 14th, 2012
3:02 pm

He needs a nap!

What is Hillary going to do?

Brosephus™

November 14th, 2012
3:03 pm

Jay

You could have simply saved bandwidth and said that speaking out based on intelligence gathered at the time but later turns out wrong is only ok when you’re Republican. Otherwise, you have to know the truth before the truth even knows itself.

southpaw

November 14th, 2012
3:03 pm

Jay-
Any predictions for how a cloture vote would turn out after the new Senators are sworn in?

Ronald Reagan

November 14th, 2012
3:04 pm

I agree with Senator McCain! Rice lied & people died! She should remain in her current position where she is harmless!

TaxPayer

November 14th, 2012
3:04 pm

The party of stupid has to live up to its namesake. Good job, McCain.

weetamoe

November 14th, 2012
3:05 pm

Wonder what Colin –also a smoking gun is the mushroom cloud–guy thinks about that. Funny how you guys carry that little quote around in your tu quoque lunch bags.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 14th, 2012
3:07 pm

Some posters clearly are clueless…but Reagan was for a good deal of his term.

There is also a difference between lying (see: intent, Cheney, Bush Administration) and providing information believed true based on available evidence but later proves false.

Patrick

November 14th, 2012
3:08 pm

BREAKING NEWS–

In a later press conference on the Capitol lawn, Senator McCain yelled “get the hell off my lawn, you crazy kids”.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 14th, 2012
3:08 pm

I don’t think it’s seemly to suggest that McCain’s somehow mentally deficient in this; it seems pretty clear to me that his objection to Susan Rice is just as ideologically-based as his support of Condi Rice was.

No need to attribute to senility what can just as easily be explained by partisan mulishness.

Jay

November 14th, 2012
3:09 pm

Update posted above.

the cat

November 14th, 2012
3:10 pm

I love an angry President Obama!

Brosephus™

November 14th, 2012
3:12 pm

Jay

I heard part of that press conference. Obama would be much more believable if he used the services of an “Angry Black Man” to deliver messages, such as that one. He’s been too mushy for anybody to take him seriously, that is, unless you see a drone overhead.

fedup

November 14th, 2012
3:12 pm

MaCain has drunk the same Koolaid the “you lie” people did. Boy it hurts when you get spanked.

Jaynie

November 14th, 2012
3:14 pm

I once respected John McCain. I no longer do. Temper tantrums should not be tolerated in little children, much less in adults who are supposeed to running our country. The irresponsible statements from both sides (remember Cynthia McKinney and 9/11) do no one any good and cause much harm to all. McCain is to be commended for his service to this country while he was a military officer. It is time for him to rest on his past performance and retire.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 14th, 2012
3:14 pm

I hope the President watches all of the American President and kicks some more teeth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWRVbWMvi7c

Get Real

November 14th, 2012
3:16 pm

I am still waiting for the media to do their figgin jobs. Now that the election is over there is not more reason to continue to cover for the Great One…and I do not mean Jackie Gleason.

Who told her to go out and blantantly lie??

josef

November 14th, 2012
3:16 pm

IMAM TORQUEMADA

Just being EOI here…but how comes it that McCain doesn’t get one of those Doddering Old Fool cards? I mean, after all, his service record to his country is certainly up there with Helen Thomas and Joseph Lowery. :-)

As for Susan Rice, I suspected she’d take Hillary Clinton’s place. I’ve got my reservations, but she does seem to me to be the best nominee.

JohnnyReb

November 14th, 2012
3:16 pm

If Obama crapped on the Resolute Desk while on National TV you guys would defend him.

Good for McCain. Good for Graham and Ayotte.

Obama lied. He continues to lie. He is digging the hole deeper. I can hardly wait for the hearing.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 14th, 2012
3:18 pm

I can hardly wait for the hearing.

Sounds like the same chest thumpin you were doing before the election. :lol:

JohnnyReb

November 14th, 2012
3:20 pm

“Temper tantrums should not be tolerated in little children, much less in adults who are supposeed to running our country. ”

Does that include Obama who threw one in the news conference?

Patrick

November 14th, 2012
3:20 pm

MORE BREAKING NEWS–

Lesbian Sen. Lindsey Graham clutched his pearls and whipped out an angry statement in response to the President’s defense of Sec. Rice.

“My, my my–I shoulda known those darkies would stick up for each otha”,

He then stomped away from the press conferance in a pair of sassy lime-green espadrilles.

Jay

November 14th, 2012
3:20 pm

Correct me if I’m wrong, Josef, but Ms. Thomas did NOT escape the consequences of her statement. Her career ended at that moment.

Furthermore, Dr. Lowery does not have the power to, among other things, block the confirmation of a qualified secretary of State.

Stevie Ray

November 14th, 2012
3:20 pm

JAY

I don’t care what she did or didnt’ do, we need a much bigger gun in that particular role. Suggesting she is qualified by suggesting Codolizza Rice wasn’t is silly.

BTW, I heard a guy on POTUS radio this morning suggesting that we may learn that we were holding prisoners in that particular facility..wonder if this will turn out to be true…this issue will turn a few more colors before you can REALLY sweep it under your carpet.

SPC

November 14th, 2012
3:21 pm

The Iraq story didn’t add up, but neither does the Benghazi story. We know the truth regarding the former, let’s get the truth regarding the latter.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 14th, 2012
3:22 pm

J. Reb — “If Obama crapped on the Resolute Desk while on National TV you guys would defend him.”

No, I don’t think so. But I do think if he had a nosebleed in the Oval Office and cons found out about it, y’all would claim that he drinks the blood of virgins in here and HA, libs, prove he doesn’t. :roll:

Jay

November 14th, 2012
3:23 pm

Stevie Ray, we may indeed have been holding prisoners there, I don’t know. But if so, the CIA’s involvement and its wish to keep its role in Benghazi (and probably elsewhere on the ground in Libya) secret probably explains the varying story lines a lot more accurately than the varied conspiracy theories on the right. (You know, Occam’s razor and all).

JohnnyReb

November 14th, 2012
3:24 pm

Hello Good Fight – I made a post the other day admitting my pronostications were wrong. Guess you missed it.

Since you brought it up. How does it feel to have backed the first president to be reelected due to pop-culture and pushing free-stuff instead of his performance?

And not necessarily for you, but any Moonbat trying to turn Obama’s reelection into something it was not. He won just over 50% of the popular vote and 26 states plus DC. Long from a mandate or landslide.

As to Obama’s popularity – see pop-culture.

larry

November 14th, 2012
3:24 pm

I can hardly wait for the hearing.

And when i hear the truth, i’m still going to say he’s lying.

I want my Watergate dangit !!

Regnad Kcin

November 14th, 2012
3:24 pm

Benghazi was invented by Fox to throw the election to Romney. Now that the election is over, Fox has not one word to say on the subject.

It seems the frothier cons on this blog have not gotten the memo…

stands for decibels

November 14th, 2012
3:26 pm

Who told her to go out and blantantly lie??

Ok, let me make absolutely sure I get the Butthurt-Over-Benghazi-Brigade’s lament here.

Obama had Rice lie because it would somehow help his re-election chances if he were to concoct, out of whole cloth, a story about a demonstration, rather than what the State Dept. knew to be true.

And this phony story that was supposed to HELP Team Obama 2012, was that bat-crap crazy Muslims were rioting over an offensive film trailer, with the presumption that such spontaneous outbreaks were bound to happen again, anywhere on the planet.

Help me out here. How would such subterfuge be a smart strategy?

Seriously, I do not get you Butthurts at all. Your lament makes no freakin’ sense. It is actually dumber than the birth certificate “controversy,” if such a thing is even possible.

I am starting to think some sort of brain parasite has gotten loose. But maybe you can explain how this allegedly concocted spontaneous batcrap-crazy Mooooslumz-going-ape scenario would’ve been more pleasant for Americans to regard.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 14th, 2012
3:27 pm

St Simons

November 14th, 2012
3:27 pm

this just gives them another opportunity to screech bennnn-gawziii
a million times on the raydio.

as far as the UN, nominate her NOW. Make it the 1st thing.
Nightly televise every filibuster.
Let them select themselves for extinction.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 14th, 2012
3:27 pm

Since you brought it up. How does it feel to have backed the first president to be reelected due to pop-culture and pushing free-stuff instead of his performance

Feels great Johnny…. but you’re still showing complete ignorance about why he was re-elected and why you remain wrong. You may have admitted your pronostications were wrong about one event but your deductive ability, lack of reasoning and pronostication ability remains skewed and off. Guess you have not learned your lessons yet but thump away with the lies and nonsense.

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

November 14th, 2012
3:28 pm

Mclame , Robme , Turtleman , GOP ….really? yawn…LOL

Brosephus™

November 14th, 2012
3:28 pm

how comes it that McCain doesn’t get one of those Doddering Old Fool cards? I mean, after all, his service record to his country is certainly up there with Helen Thomas and Joseph Lowery.

josef

While they may all be doddering old fools, neither Thomas nor Lowery has theu current position, access, or responsibility that McCain has. If he wants to dodder, then he needs to do it as a private citizen. Just my opinion.

Adam

November 14th, 2012
3:29 pm

Ugh.

The cons will never let the Benghazi thing go. I suppose we should let them play with their shiny object for a while. At least then they are distracted….

Recon 0311 2533

November 14th, 2012
3:29 pm

Jay, conveniently omits Obama remarking that Rice had nothing to do with Benghazi but was asked to represent the administration in explaining it to the television network news media. What??? that just doesn’t add up. Also it was interesting to watch Obama dodge the question of not being informed about Petraeus until after the election.

josef

November 14th, 2012
3:29 pm

IMAM

Lighten up, Francis! And, going all serious as you seem wont here, no need to correct you. You’re right. Dull as dishwater and snippy, but correct nonetheless…oh, yeah, and a Plantation Liberal Delusional Lickspittle… :-)

Stevie Ray

November 14th, 2012
3:30 pm

JAY

I hear you…that may also be the reason Romney didn’t bring it up in debate although I doubt it…i think he got security briefing prior to last debate…

Its all posturing…had the GOP been in office and this occurred the storylines would be the same simply flipped..the major networks and MSNBC et all would have been a chorus of FOX’s approach..

East Lake Ira

November 14th, 2012
3:31 pm

Isn’t it time for McCain to follow other failed GOP noms into the world of endorsing boner pills and the like?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 14th, 2012
3:31 pm

J. Reb — “trying to turn Obama’s reelection into something it was not. He won just over 50% of the popular vote and 26 states plus DC. Long from a mandate or landslide.”

Tell it to Dick Cheney. We’re just using the same standard he used to call Bush’s 2004 re-election a “mandate,” and by the both popular vote and electoral vote, Obama outscored Bush on every measure.

Y’all can blame Cheney for the notion of a “peace dividend” as well, since he was the first public figure to use that expression, too.

Lord Help Us

November 14th, 2012
3:31 pm

‘Lighten up, Francis!’

Sergeant Hulka?

josef

November 14th, 2012
3:31 pm

BROSEPHUS

So, now you would deny us Doddering Old Fools our representation in the lawmaking bodies of the land? Bring it on! Doddering Old Fools, arise! Smash the agist oppressors! :-)

Regnad Kcin

November 14th, 2012
3:32 pm

“Also it was interesting to watch Obama dodge the question of not being informed about Petraeus until after the election.’

Unverified-rumor-double-secret conspiracy alert!

JohnnyReb

November 14th, 2012
3:33 pm

Since some here are belittling McCain, let me join in but from a different angle. While I am at it, I will dog Romeny also.

McCain was too nice a guy when he ran against Barry. Instead of exposing Barry for what he is, McCain played the gentleman at the wrong time and Barry walks into the oval office pretty much the way he walked into the Senate seat in Illinois.

Romney while smart is too nice a guy to have run against Obama. Obama and his surrogates run the dirtiest negative campaign in American history and we run against him a boy scout. When Romney got Obama down, he then decided to coast. He should have gone for the jugular in the second debate and kicked his ass back to Chicago in the third. The outrage from Graham heard today should have come from Romney in the third debate.

Jay

November 14th, 2012
3:33 pm

“Jay, conveniently omits Obama remarking that Rice had nothing to do with Benghazi but was asked to represent the administration in explaining it to the television network news media. What??? that just doesn’t add up.

Two points, Recon: One, no I did not omit it. It is stated plainly in Obama quote’s above: “But for them to go after the U.N. ambassador? Who had nothing to do with Benghazi? And was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received?”

Two, yes it does add up. It adds up like 2 plus 2 adds up to 4. Are you seriously under the impression that a UN ambassador has operational responsibilities for a consulate in Libya? She was serving as a spokesperson, nothing more.

jewcowboy

November 14th, 2012
3:33 pm

josef

November 14th, 2012
3:34 pm

PATRICK

That was just plain tacky and borderline homophobic…the pc police have been informed…

Regnad Kcin

November 14th, 2012
3:35 pm

Sergeant Hulka?

“Blowed, up, sir!”

Native Atlantan

November 14th, 2012
3:36 pm

@josef — but it really did make me laugh…..

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

November 14th, 2012
3:36 pm

But he’s a maverick!…..please stop it already..

michael

November 14th, 2012
3:36 pm

Johnny Reb, how did you come up with your name? Been watching too much Fox News I bet. There were no WMD when Bush started all of these wars and thousands have died. Get real.

Lord Help Us

November 14th, 2012
3:36 pm

‘ Instead of exposing Barry for what he is, McCain played the gentleman ‘

Oh pray tell, exposed for what exactly? BTW: Gov Jindal wants a word with you…

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 14th, 2012
3:36 pm

If I weren’t creeped out by dentures
I’d tell Senator Mccain to bite my little backside.

Moderate Line

November 14th, 2012
3:37 pm

Despite these false statements by Rice — again, statements with grave national consequences — Senate Democrats in 2005 did not launch a filibuster in an attempt to halt her confirmation. The vote to approve her was 85-13. Among those voting to confirm her were McCain and Graham.
++++++++++++++++
To place this into context Rice received the most negative votes since 1825. Also, note the “petty and petulant” John Kerry and Barbara Boxer voted against her in committee.

In the committee meeting after Wednesday’s hearing, Boxer said she hoped Rice would see the difference between her new job and her old role “where she wasn’t in any way responsible to come before Congress, but went to the American people and sold a war and continues to repeat things that were not so.”
“In the end, I could not excuse Dr. Rice’s repeated misstatements,” Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said of his vote against Rice.

McCain might be petty and petulant but that is not unprecedented. http://articles.cnn.com/2005-01-26/politics/rice.confirmation_1_condoleezza-rice-gathering-threat-confirmation-hearing?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS
http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/20/rice.confirmation/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6862922/ns/politics/t/rice-sworn-secretary-state/

josef

November 14th, 2012
3:37 pm

jewcowboy

:-) :-)

Good to see you…this lot today has been a really dull lot…nice to see someone with some taste show up…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 14th, 2012
3:37 pm

Brosephus™

November 14th, 2012
3:39 pm

And not necessarily for you, but any Moonbat trying to turn Obama’s reelection into something it was not. He won just over 50% of the popular vote and 26 states plus DC. Long from a mandate or landslide.

Only four presidents since 1900 have been elected twice with more than 50% of the popular vote in both elections: Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald W. Reagan, and Barack H. Obama.

Patrick

November 14th, 2012
3:39 pm

Hey Josef. Sorry–I didn’t mean to offend anyone–especially by comparing them to Sen. Graham. :)

He does seem to get his panties in a wad pretty easily, though.

Lord Help Us

November 14th, 2012
3:39 pm

‘It’s November.

Give me the “I told you so” line.’

Oooh, that’s nasty…CLEAN UP! AISLE 1!!!!

Just Wow

November 14th, 2012
3:39 pm

Reading some of the comments/conclusions on here makes a mind wonder if some of the bloggers actually sit in on the security briefings. I do believe that there is an ongoing investigation still in process….

Recon 0311 2533

November 14th, 2012
3:40 pm

‘Who had nothing to do with Benghazi? And was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received? To besmirch her reputation is outrageous.”

Sounds to me and probably a lot more than just me that the administration was hiding behind Rice. In fairness to Rice she was probably given false information that the administration knew was false when they sent her out there. It’s murky and it’s not going away anytime soon as it shouldn’t when four Americans lose their lives/

Brosephus™

November 14th, 2012
3:40 pm

josef

No doddering when you’re responsible for protecting state secrets. I don’t care if you’re young or old. I’m against putting young jackasses in that same position too. :)

Joe Hussein Mama

November 14th, 2012
3:40 pm

R. Kcin — “Blowed, up, sir!”

I’m gettin’ too old for this shiiiiiiiiiiii. . .

– Senator John McCain

Mr. Snarky

November 14th, 2012
3:41 pm

What’s next? Is McCain gonna tell her to get off his lawn? #CrankyOldMan

JohnnyReb

November 14th, 2012
3:41 pm

michael

November 14th, 2012
3:36 pm

Johnny Reb, how did you come up with your name? Been watching too much Fox News I bet. There were no WMD when Bush started all of these wars and thousands have died. Get real.
__________________

This is not about W.

My name is an intended contradiction to the bunch of Statists who live here, Jay being the supreme.

Simple Truths

November 14th, 2012
3:43 pm

Jay, with your sweeping abilities, you should take up curling. They play a big role in that sport.

JohnnyReb

November 14th, 2012
3:43 pm

Hello Kamie – I’m a big boy. I can take it. But, I did not write what you posted. Someone must have hijacked my moniker. But, I will take the heat.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 14th, 2012
3:43 pm

J. Reb — “My name is an intended contradiction to the bunch of Statists who live here”

I expect that Ragnar will give you a disapproving lecture when he finds out.

Patrick

November 14th, 2012
3:43 pm

Mr. Snarky–

Please see my post at 3:08. :)

JamVet

November 14th, 2012
3:44 pm

Damn, it is gonna be difficult to wait an entire two years to kick these unhinged hypocrite’s asses again!

L Dude, Ben Gazi was not half bad in Anatomy of a Murder and The Bridge at Remagen

http://tinyurl.com/yr2mrp

stands for decibels

November 14th, 2012
3:44 pm

moonbat betty

November 14th, 2012
3:45 pm

Doesn’t sound like McCain was the one having the temper trantrum…

Al

November 14th, 2012
3:46 pm

Everyone, please help me with something – Why is it that people will say (Insert Democrat Name Here) Lied and People Died but get all upset if someone replies with Bush Lied and THOUSANDS Died – saying that its wrong to blame Bush for anything now that he is out of office – then later along the line make a reference to Jimmy Carter, who was president a full generation ago? Don’t these people get so tired of having the “Do as I say, not as I do” attitude?

Lord Help Us

November 14th, 2012
3:46 pm

‘I’m a big boy. I can take it. But, I did not write what you posted. Someone must have hijacked my moniker. But, I will take the heat.’

You do realize that this is a cop out and is mutually exclusive with ‘taking the heat…’ Oh, why even bother…

jewcowboy

November 14th, 2012
3:46 pm

Howdy josef!

While it is usually fun to watch the unhinged of the right on this blog wax poetic about their fantasies, since the election they’ve been rather pathetic to watch. I’m thinking they might be in need of some Androgel.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/opinion/sunday/is-america-man-enough-to-vote.html?_r=0

josef

November 14th, 2012
3:47 pm

PATRICK

Oh, it was calling him a lesbian I objected to. No need to go insulting them! As for Lindsey…L-rd that queen do go for the drama! While I don’t think his Democrat opponent should have called him “light in the loafers” on the campaign trail, the pundit that termed him the Pink Elephant in the Big Tent was funny… :-)

stands for decibels

November 14th, 2012
3:47 pm

she was probably given false information that the administration knew was false when they sent her out there

my kind offer extends to you as well.

What great benefit would be had to the President’s re-election prospects if the public were falsely led to believe that violent demonstrations were sprouting up across the Islamic world due to an offensive video?

Please explain how that would make any sense whatsoever.

stands for decibels

November 14th, 2012
3:48 pm

…demonstrations so violent that our State department folks were being targeted.

Tell me how that helps Team Obama get re-elected. Because that’s what’s been alleged over and over and over again by the right.

JamVet

November 14th, 2012
3:48 pm

Let’s see if I have this correct.

Your pitiful, embarrassing candidate – who blamed the embassy personnel themselves for sympathizing with their murderers (!!!) – got his nasty clocked cleaned over this matter.

And your rubes want more?!!

Talk about doubling down on the dumb…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 14th, 2012
3:49 pm

“someone must have stole my moniker”

Jay, can we get any confirmation on that? :roll: That’s better than the “just kidding” card. :lol:

JohnnyReb

November 14th, 2012
3:49 pm

A comment on Rice, then its off to see the Wizard.

The point on Rice which most here, including Jay, are missing. She was complicit in promoting the lie or she does not have the common sense of a goat or will do/say anything she is told. All of which disqualify her going forward.

Bill

November 14th, 2012
3:50 pm

You are right, she’ll make a great pushover for Obama. You really think she wasn’t privy to the real information that is becoming common knowledge now? If she wasn’t at the intelligence security level we are assuming she was, then why is she so strong a candidate for Secretary of State now? She’ll make a great spokesperson. She won’t have to think, and know it for herself, she can just listen and say as she is told to, just like she did… She apparently will work perfectly with this Cabinet. Jay, wake up!

Lord Help Us

November 14th, 2012
3:50 pm

‘All of which disqualify her going forward.’

Which puts her about 50 paces ahead of you and your BS predictions…

JohnnyReb

November 14th, 2012
3:51 pm

Good Fight – I’m not witty enough to write like that.

stands for decibels

November 14th, 2012
3:51 pm

She was complicit in promoting the lie

yes, yes, the “lie.”

You guys can’t even present a plausible explanation for why this “lie” was being uttered. None whatsoever.

JamVet

November 14th, 2012
3:52 pm

John McCain used to be tolerable. Sort of.

And I still very much respect his valor and heroism in combat. (Something sorely and broadly lacking in the GOP for a long time.)

Consequently I have always been inclined to give him a break, but he has definitely gone off the deep end as of late…

classyasalways

November 14th, 2012
3:52 pm

Because Susan Rice is the best option to run the state department without the Bengazi failure. I love how any opposition no matter how sound is immediately met with “Temper Tantrum”. Just more of the sophmoric behavior from the left. When in doubt, start the name calling. Grow up people. Surely there are better choices to run the State Department and surely Susan Rice knew more than she let on that Sunday. To think otherwise would be to have your head in the sand.

deegee

November 14th, 2012
3:52 pm

I think that they all know that the quality of intelligence you get out of the Middle East is not that good. It hasn’t been good since the US lost the power to appoint Middle East dictators. Nevertheless, reality isn’t going to stand in the way of good political theater.

Patrick

November 14th, 2012
3:52 pm

Josef–perfect tag line for Graham!

Thanks! :)

Joe Hussein Mama

November 14th, 2012
3:53 pm

Al — “Don’t these people get so tired of having the “Do as I say, not as I do” attitude?”

As a former con who voted on the GOP side for 20+ years, I can assure you that they don’t. For the most part, they’re pretty impervious to criticism in that area, as they accept it as a point of faith that Democrats are evil and unethical, whereas Republicans are paragons of truth, morality and justice — even when the *same kinds of acts* are in question.

The level of disconnect is about the same as what the Scientologists foist on their ‘parishoners.’

classyasalways

November 14th, 2012
3:58 pm

stands for decibels – 3. EASY REASONS TO MAKE UP A LIE ABOUT THE ATTACKS. 1. It covers up the fact that 1. the state department left one of our own defenseless in one of the most violent places in the world. 2. COVERS up the fact the administration failed to act to support the officials during the 9 hours between when the raid started and the ambassador was killed. 3. COVERS UP the mystery as to WHY the ambassador was in Bengazi in the first place. The embassy isn’t in Bengazi. It’s in Tripoli.

josef

November 14th, 2012
3:58 pm

jewcowboy

That was a fine read! Thanks…

MOONBAT

I guess it must be the day for temper tantrums…right and left! :-)