Jindal: GOP should ’stop being the stupid party’

““It’s not going to be the last time anyone says something stupid within our party, but it can’t be tolerated within our party. ”

I’m looking forward to him giving this message to Rush … personally …

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You mean saying things like women who are raped should enjoy it or do something about it- heretofore only heard from the likes of Bobby Knight. You mean “self deportation” whatever the hell that means. “Oh honey- grab the kids and grandma- I will call a yellow cab- Mexico City here we come”. You mean we not only shouldn’t raise taxes- we should lower them- brilliant! You mean elect a billionaire to run for office v. a “salt of the earth” person.?

Other than that the RNC was game on in 2012.

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“We’ve got to make sure that we are not the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, big anything,”

There goes his campaign contributions. He just stuck his horn on his forehead… RINO!!!!!!!

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somewhat related …

… speaking of saying stupid things – when Forbes dope-slaps you about your math, you really need to sit down and shut up.

yeah, I’m looking at you (and your crappy pizzas) papa john: http://www.forbes.com/sites/calebmelby/2012/11/12/breaking-down-centi-millionaire-papa-john-schnatters-obamacare-math/

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Power, money and ideology are very important to Republican politicians. However, getting elected and re-elected is even more important. So, Jindal is among the first of his Party to understand this as he gets ready to say and do anything, like Romney, to get re-elected.

When top Republicans start doing 180’s, again like Romney, you’ll know just how sincere and committed to “compassionate conservatism” they really are.

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Good luck with that mr. jindal – once you’ve jumped the shark, it’s pretty hard to get back to where you once belonged…

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“We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

So they should switch to the democratic party?

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I still cannot get over the creepy Mr Rogers response to the State of the Union speech he gave a few years back.

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He said it to Politico. Smart. Did you notice the phrasing? “Stop being the stupid party’? Which means they now ARE the stupid party.

Just the other day Bill Crystal said a tax increase on the rich wouldn’t hurt a thing and asked why on earth the Republican Party would want to fall on its sword to protect a bunch of millionaires, half of whom voted for Obama and half who live in Beverly Hills?

Those top-tier tax rate increases, they are a-coming!

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“only 10% of Americans know what the original Tea Party was”

I imagined that it started out being only the “Taxed Enough Already” party, and then just became the ultra-conservative wing of the conservative party. Am I correct?

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GOP – Grand Old Poopy-heads

Thanks Grover!

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Is Reince Priebus still Chairman of the Republican National Committee?

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USinUK — “… speaking of saying stupid things – when Forbes dope-slaps you about your math, you really need to sit down and shut up.”

I read that. My first thought was that while Schnatter claims that the ACA is going to drive up his costs by 10-14 cents a pie, his douchey comments will probably cost him enough business to keep his revenue flat.

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Oh come on, both parties belittle each other, both parties would rather denigrate the opposing candidate instead of talking issues, both use talking points instead of really elaborating on ideas, both parties scare voters into voting for them than the other guy…….y’all should give Jindal a break. He’s being honest here.

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godless

There are two groups that I think use that name. I can’t do youtube on this PC, but there were links when I did a search for that term. I think one group is out of the Pacific Northwest of all places…

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USinUK — “(but then, I always thought the same about Dominoes – god awful pizzas, the both of them)”

We patronize our local independent shop; they cost more, but they use premium ingredients and they worked with us to tweak some of their ingredients when I was terribly, terribly sick a few years back.

That kind of flexibility and responsiveness builds customer loyalty. And it’s a lesson the GOP could stand to learn.

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makes one wonder why he had the business in the first place

With a name like Smuckers Schnatter, it has to be good?

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JF McNamara — “Ummm, your base is signing secessionist petitions. Good luck with that.”

They seem to have forgotten their tried-and-true old saw, that of “the majority rules.”

I suppose that instead of just building a wall along the Rio Grande, Texans would have to build a wall around the entire state in order to keep damyankeez out as well. (giggling)

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70% of illegals voted?

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Bozoclause

That’s clever. Goodness, with all the vitriol and name calling, I simply can’t understand why Romney lost. Gee, its a big mystery.

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“We patronize our local independent shop; they cost more”

we use a local place, too – and their pizza is OUT FLIPPING STANDING!!! so much better than anything I’ve gotten from a chain – cooked in a wood-burning oven and worth every penny.

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K’Chak — “70% of illegals voted?”

A late-breaking conservative meme.

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Will be interesting to see how Jindal’s comments go over within Republican circles. He seems to be well respected in those circles with the potential for higher office.

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I think you are onto something here. The more the GOP tries to emulate the DEM party the stupider they become. I think that’s what Jindal is saying. Progressives are all about base level emotionalism with a large dose of message manipulation.

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NiN — “Seriously, does anyone pass up a chance to watch Newt on TV?”

He was jabbering up a storm on Morning Joe today.

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Progressives are all about base level emotionalism with a large dose of message manipulation.

The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.

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If the GOP stepped into the 21st century would would all those people who want to say in the 19th centruy vote for?

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Jindal is correct, of course, but we are still dealing with Congress as a whole and I’m reminded of that mark twain quote: “if pro is the opposite of con, then progress is the opposite of Congress.” Just sitting here hoping that Congress will get it together before the first of the year.

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SBinF: abortion is suddenly a distraction, and part of a manufactured “war on women.”

Manufactured my auntie em! Anytime the governor of a state wants to PROBE women who wish to have an abortion, that is not “manufactured”! He almost got away with it too; but for the thousands of women that stood at the state capitol steps every day screaming his name promising retribution.

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They never learn their lessons. Instead of talking about the financial meltdown they will be talking about the generals with their pants down.

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No use crying over spilled ilk.

Stay the course cons.

You give America comedy.

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USinUk, JHM…

Pizza? No thanks, but a good calzone I would sell my soul for… really drooling here…

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K71 — Do you need a hug?

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Or maybe a PROBE?

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Jindal’s statement comes as no surprise. Jindal is about as much of A REAL American as Obama. We’d need his birth certificate too.

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Reasonable people can come to reasonable conclusions under reasonable conditions unless you are a republican.

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JHM – Can’t be tolerated? WTF?

It’s been part of their freakin’ PLAYBOOK for the last 20+ years.

I always said that the party “left me” years ago

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DebbieDoRight – I would like to send you an e-hug for your 10:02 am comment.

Jindal is the voice of extremism in La. politics. It is either his way or the highway. In his comments he is talking out of the side of his mouth. He means lie to the electorate and then we will do something entirely different once in office. This charter school non-sense in La. is meant to destroy and end public education. Please do not be fooled.

I will return to my normal activities of reading your comments.

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Suck, 10:07,

After a brief interlude to lick my wounds, we are back with a fury. As I told a blogger on the last thread, this crow really does taste a lot like chicken. Just goes to show you how wrong a person can be. Hell, you liberals need as many conservatives as possible to keep you honest, if that’s even possible. Keep in mind that 49% of the people in this country simply do not want to live in a Bozo America. Some are calling the Demo victory a mandate, however a true mandate is a 49/1 Reagan victory. You have a long way to go.

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Are cons actually feeling shame?

Nah, just making excuses.

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kayaker 71

“So, now what are the Repubs supposed to do, approve blanket amnesty for all of those illegal Democratic latino voters?”

I turned on Rush right after the election and now here you are, repeating the same thing he said. “What are we supposed to do?” followed by a bunch of silly examples like ‘blanket amnesty.’

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Terrific, the future of the GOP:fiscal conservative and social moderates, this will appeal to the majority of americans (I believe), All “families” will have the crazy Aunt, so we will have to deal with those crazies. Goodbye to “death by primary”. The changing of the guard, this is good news for all who value a viable two party system, exchange of ideas,etc……The liberal have the socialists, the repubs have the Tea partiers, this is great news;’like making sausage…..:

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Zealotry on both sides has hurt both parties. Maybe, instead of some lunatic-fringe third party a REAL third party called the “Common-Sense” party will come into being! As a repub, if you are not fervently anti-abortion-anti government far-right, you do not count anymore. As a Dem, if you are not in gay-pride parades and for sending everybody money you are not quite in, either. What about every-day walking-around common sense? The over-zealous attitudes of both the left and the right are fast becoming a bore.

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You have a long way to go.
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And a short time to get there.

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JMH

““We patronize our local independent shop; they cost more””

On the rare occasions we eat pizza, it’s the same with us. One is a sit-down place. Other is a midscale Italian restaurant, do take-out, it’s about a third more than the chains, but I eat for what tastes really good, not for what’s a few buck cheaper.

Besides which, I’d rather support the local businesses.

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“Keep in mind that 49% of the people in this country simply do not want to live in a Bozo America.”

Keep in mind that we can argue all day what a mandate is or isn’t (Charles Krauthammer claimed Bush had one with less EC votes in 04), the election was not close in terms of the Electoral College and more than that 49% you mention did vote for Obama. Joking asides, I’m not one to care much about mandates. The President will have to work with Congress and vice versa. That means each will have to give and take.

I really did think you would be back sooner. Some of your fellow right leaning bloggers are still missing in action or have taken on new names.

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yaker

Ahhh…I remember it well, in 2004 48% of the population didn’t want to live in a bushworld, by 2008 turns out we were correct…

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I would not call it “insulting the intelligence of the voters” if they buy that nonsense hook, line and sinker.

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kayaker 71

You may want to keep up with what your party’s doing on immigration. I didn’t mean Rush’s party. The Republican Party.

“Senate Immigration Talks: Lindsey Graham, Chuck Schumer”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/11/senate-immigration_n_2113658.html

Amnesty, yes.

Blanket, no.

But strawmen are easier to set up on display, aren’t they?

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Jindal is right. The GOP needs a message other than dismantle all government programs enacted since 1932 and lower taxes on the rich. That program just does not sell anymore. Not to the majortiy of people. It plays well out west and in rural areas where they don’t want any type of government. But those people are not in the majority anymore.

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Yea, lets hear some more about seeing Jindals birth certificate!!! I love it when the loyal opposition refuses to let something go that most normal people see thru immediatley. Reminds me of my extremely conservative brother’s viewpoints all the while his grandkids are on welfare with no dad. Seperated from reality.

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Patrick – Hopefully “not being the stupid party” also includes embracing scientific certainties like Evolution and Climate Change.

both have a level of uncertainty

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One last item before I go back to moving markets.

The libs should not get defensive about the term Socialism- laugh it off and rebut with a much needed period of Collaboration- ah the “Age of Collaboration” – the correct recipe engaging gov’t, the employer, and the employee. The RNC needs to back to the age of enlightenment and get back to us.

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“Patrick – Hopefully “not being the stupid party” also includes embracing scientific certainties like Evolution and Climate Change.

both have a level of uncertainty”

So does gravity but you don’t hear a lot of folks denying it on talk radio…

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kayaker

One more on the election. I’m sure you remember 2000 when Gore won the popular vote. I’m confident that you didn’t discount Bush’s victory because he only won the Electoral College. And I’m “counting on it”.

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Brosephus™

November 13th, 2012
10:22 am

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“we need to trust the intelligence of the American people ”

There is no evidence of intelligence in an electorat who just re-elected this President. NONE.

Question for you libs if you care to answer. What message should the GOP stop sending to specific voter blocks as Jindal susggests? For example, what message should we start telling women? Hispanics? Blacks?

And do you believe if we tell them that, they’ll change their vote?

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Thomas

November 13th, 2012
10:29 am

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Socialism works well in the NFL. Falcons want more of it. State and private money to work together for a better future.

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As long as they have racist red-necks in the GOP Party, they will NOT stop saying stupid stuff. They are stupid.

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One does not have to speak a lick of English to become a citizen of the United States

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Of course not. Babies can’t talk and they are all citizens when they are born here.

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Ineptocracy……… A system of govt where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminished number of producers.

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Mr. Sharpe

Hey, I love a good calzone too.

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what’s amazing is that despite the blatant failings as confirmed by Jindal, the GOP still go almost half the popular vote….

Nah, it’s not really amazing if you understand why. It could be that the GOP vote was not FOR the GOP, but rather it was AGAINST Obama.

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kay,

Good for you.

Stay the course.

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And why didn’t Jindal run for President again?

Probably because he felt the way the party was going, and knew he’d be unelectable *in the primaries*. So, now is a good time to come out and say it.
Republicans! Don’t be stupid!

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Jindal is absolutely right. Time for Republicans to stop being the party of stupid. Go over the cliff. Let sequestration happen. Spread the pain around to every one and reset the dynamic. Automatic tax increases across the board. Automatic spending cuts across the board. Tax the hell out of the rich. Make the leeches actually pay income tax. No more deductions period. Institute a national Sales tax for the sole purpose of reducing the debt.

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kayaker 71

November 13th, 2012
10:31 am

“When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing; when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods but in favors; when you see that men get rich more easily by graft than by hard work and your laws no longer protect you against them, but protect them against you, you may know that your society is doomed”

Ayn Rand
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Great, we get a quote from an amped up neth ho. I wonder how high she was when she wrote that? How many days she had been shooting crank?

Why do you worship drug addicts Kayaker?

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getalife @ 10:37

Exactly. No one would have “counted on it” to be any different.

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With a name like Schnatter, it has to be good?

His name will be “Schatter” to me, henceforth.

(And, as many have pointed out, if I’m going to have crappy pizza, there are any number of alternatives that aren’t publicly crapping on their own help.)

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C. Sharpe — “Pizza? No thanks, but a good calzone I would sell my soul for… really drooling here…”

My local independent pizza shop will GLADLY make any pie into a calzone. With parmesan dusted on the outside and a cup of marinara for dipping.

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It’s amazing to see the evolution of some who follow the Republican platform. The belief that they can all of a sudden attract a wider voting block by simply saying we need to rethink our immigration position is so ridiculous it not even laughable. In their epiphany they see the Latino voter as their saving grace. This may be so if the Latino voter see’s themselves as the usable pawn in the game and tries to leverage this position. But the Republicans are still playing a short game and don’t seem to realize that there are Latino women, Latino LGTB groups, and Black Latino’s. I have yet to hear any of them say they need to court the Black voter. Republicans are coming out of the woodwork to draw all of the similarities between them and the Latino voters, like they are both socially conservative and family oriented. How both are church going and hard working. Amazing!!!This mass thought conversion is incredible in that some of the conservatives who have had this epiphany are some of the biggest race pimps in the country. The shortsighted shift of policy that focuses on just one demographic to gain votes instead of a complete rethink of positioning will continue to alienate the voters they seek since the people they are after are not blind to the reasons they are being sought.

This is the arrogance of the white male. It also exposes the lack of long range vision they have for America. It say’s the only way we will survive is if we get this group on our side. There seems to be no thought in their grand idea that we must build a better more inclusive America for everyone.

A wise man once said “Time dictates the agenda and those who don’t know the time are surely lost.” My watch is working just fine.

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“When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing

remind me again–what did the rich trust-fund d-bag you ran as President actually *produce*, again?

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oscar, good point. can you imagine what would happen on a team where the quarterback gets 25% of the income. ryan gets about 12% of the payroll of roughly 40+ players.

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There is no evidence of intelligence in an electorat who just re-elected this President. NONE.

Don’t you have some exploited help who need whipping, RB?

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Yes, I remember trying to drag us repubs into the 20th century, I pulled 23% of the vote and good ole’ Woodrow got elected-still smarting from that academic fraud. Unfortunately, Harding and Coolidge got elected and then all went to Hell.
Yep, history does repeat itself and it’s kind of interesting, I will be DEEEELIGHTED to see my Grand Old Party recapture the stature it once had, we shall see. Gotta go, Wodrow and I are going hunting,……hope he ducks…..heh, heh…..

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BRO

Clearly it was to oust BO…but there is something to be said when almost 50% want him out…this whole political scene is SNAFU’ed…better yet FUBAR…yet entertaining..

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“It is necessary for the individual to come to realize that his own ego is of no importance in comparison with the existence of is nation; that the position of the individual ego is conditioned soley by the nation as a whole…… that above all the unit of a nation’s spirit and will are far more than the freedom of spirit and the will of the individual. This state of mind, which subordinates the interests of the ego to the conservation of the community, is really the premise for every truly human culture…… we understand only the individual’s capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow man.

Adolf Hitler

Mein Kampf
1933

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kayaker – sharing your bedtime reading with the class again???

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Paul — “On the rare occasions we eat pizza, it’s the same with us.”

We eat pizza perhaps once every 2-4 months, so when we do, we like for it to be quality stuff.

My wife prefers a veggie-heavy pie with a little pancetta or capicolla, and pesto for the sauce. I prefer something meaty with mushrooms, so we compromise and I get turkey sausage, ground turkey, mushrooms and extra soy cheese, all to keep the fat content down. And we get a seafood pie with shrimp, scallop and fontina (all three are small and not much is left over for the next day).

Try getting those from Papa John.

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JOE

The only difference between calzone and pizza is that the former is folded….and you get a little extra sauce….is almost like the way real pizza nuts fold slices of pizza length wise before devouring..

I’ve never met a pizza I couldn’t find something I like about…I live in NYC, spent time in Chicago and make my own dough for a pizza oven I bought second hand….no snobbery when it comes to any Italian goodies..

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speaking of idiots on the right:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/american-family-association-george-clooney-election-obama

(when asked why women voted overwhelmingly for Obama) ” These women were saying well ‘George Clooney loves President Obama,’ and a fair number of them I’m guessing said, ‘so I love President Obama,’ and the same thing with Sarah Jessica Parker.”

nope.

no idea why the majority of women distrust the right. no idea whatsoever.

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Kayaker–

So far this morning you have quoted Ayn Rand and Hitler.

I think I might see your problem…

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I see they had 90% voter tournout in back precincts in Philly. Amazing. The election proved a couple of things.#1 It’s hard to defeat an incumbent. Done once I believe in the past 80 years or so. #2 Hard to beat the party giving out all the candy when all the sweet tooth addicts are all in the same party. #3 Romney ran a week campaign as far as getting the candy lovers to understand that candy is bad for you and that one day your teeth will rot out if you keep being dependent on it. #4 More candy dependent people just means more dependency on the candy company. A house of cards that eventually has to fall apart when you simply can’t afford to give away free candy. Enjoy it while you can.

Oh by the way did you see where all the doctors have taken to the streets in France protesting their govt pay? That govt ran healthcare system is a wonderful thing, coming to a nation near you. HArd to get a nation back to work when many of the small businesses will just cut hours or layoff workers to avoid Obama care. What a nightmare scenario. Sometimes you get what you wish for. Doesn’t mean it makes the nation any better though. Enjoy libs.

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kay,

hitler.

Perfect.

Don’t change a thing kay..

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Here’s a good pizza recipe…… it would be even better if the damn communist who wrote it would have used AMERICAN measurements……….

http://redskitchendiaries.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/date-night-pizza/

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Sequestration. Dot it now!

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All this blather about which party has the lower collective IQ is stunning…both cover wide demographics which offer similar amount of undeducation voters who vote with their incentives in mind…for the most part..

It’s cyclical..GOP and DEMS trade WH positions with enough consistency to indicate that the pendulum continues to swing back and forth..

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If you visit the local Italian restaurant, there are much better items to taste than pizza and calzones. That is snack food. Cheap and easy to make.

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RB – 10:51 – actually, it’s a fair question – what DID he produce?

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fedup — “USinUK and JHM make your own pizza from goat cheese and cream or any other sauce on pita or nan bread. Put in whatever your heart desires.”

When I do that, my wife gets in the way.

S. Ray — “I’ve never met a pizza I couldn’t find something I like about…I live in NYC, spent time in Chicago and make my own dough for a pizza oven I bought second hand….no snobbery when it comes to any Italian goodies..”

Word. The ideal is simply *fresh.* Whatever you’re putting on the pie, it just needs to be *fresh.*

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“If you visit the local Italian restaurant, there are much better items to taste than pizza and calzones. That is snack food. Cheap and easy to make.”

Try a Muffuletta.

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Patrick, 10:48,

So how about a quote from your favorite president…… “The fact that we are here today to debate America’s rising debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US govt can’t pay it’s own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our govt’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s dept weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here”. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and failure of leadership. America deserves better.”

Senator Bozo
March, 2006

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Patrick – Hopefully “not being the stupid party” also includes embracing scientific certainties like Evolution and Climate Change.

Cat: both have a level of uncertainty

Well Patrick, I see Cat blew that hope right outta the water!

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K71: Ineptocracy……… A system of govt where the blah, blah, blah, blah,…………..selves or succeed are rewarded with goods blah blah blah blah………..confiscated wealth blah blah blah ……..producers.

Republicocracy: A form of government where the members want to keep things as they are, or turn back time. They aren’t as eager for reform or change, and believe that the system shouldn’t be tinkered with, and that government should remain small and out of the picture, unless of course they need government to give them FEMA or to tell them what to do with their bodies, (See Terri Schiavo and Abortion Laws)

This makes the party appealing to some key groups who hold an interest in looking toward the past for inspiration to govern our country like:

** wealthier citizens who adore a time when the government freely allowed them to be wealthy without meddling in things like child labor, unfair hiring practices, dangerous work conditions and things such as fair pay for far work.

***Favors Christian religion ONLY, (all others need NOT apply), and values (e.g. anti-abortion, anti-homosexual, for prayer in schools and posting the Ten Com

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RB — “Seriously, if you still have to ask that question at this point, you need to stop getting your news from “Weekend Update” and MTV News.”

What, can’t you just answer the question without being a Richard about it?

Oh, and I left you a love note a couple of floors down, RB.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/11/12/georgias-tom-price-a-central-figure-in-d-c-drama/?cp=9#comment-1148856

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Paul,

go over the cliff

Nero

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KAYAKER,

NO problem with Rand quote…she had some great things to say despite her ruinous “objectivism” that somehow went from fiction to an attempt to press on reality..

The reference to Hilter is mind-numbing…you may want to refer instead to Margaret Thatcher..you know..”the problem with socialism (or any welfare state like ours) is when you run out of other people’s money..”

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Kayaker–at least that quote is from this century–thanks.

Here is another one for you:

“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it — that that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. … These are people who pay no income tax. … [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”

Mitt Romney 2012

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getalife is right. Change the dynamic. Sequestration now! Make the leeches own it.

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monty

I don’t say this lightly

It beats the racist take on things.

“I see they had 90% voter tournout in back precincts in Philly. Amazing…#2 Hard to beat the party giving out all the candy when all the sweet tooth addicts are all in the same party.”

Really, I had no idea the Republican party was hard to beat because they were all for giving more to the richest sweet tooth addicts in the country.

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Brosephus™

November 13th, 2012
10:53 am

How do you create jobs that will allow people a living wage and the possibility of moving into the middle class? We will not be able to compete with China or India when it comes to wages. We haven’t been able to educate the American public on the jobs now being sourced through our prisons.

The system (Capitalism) is the problem. We’ve been told many times that it too has a limited life span but who’s listening?

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Joe and USinUK: Mitt produced PROFIT, plain and simple. Sometimes good for companies and workers, sometimes bad. He sees things in black and white and is used to being the man in charge. His business acumen didn’t endear him as a candidate or abroad as a potential representative of the nation. All he was intended to be was Grover Norquist’s “pen” in the WH to sign the legislation Congress sent over. All he ever needed to produce was profit as a business man and a signature as president.

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NERO

I couldn’t agree more about simply allowing the cliff to win..we need a wake up call and that may just do it…won’t happen…at the very least, they will figure a way to kick the can down several months or a year…too much of a threat to re-election with is the only incentive that matters to our elected self servers..

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Fred – if you want a truly tasty pizza experience – try making the dough out of ciabatta dough!

http://redskitchendiaries.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/ciabatta/

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Nero,

I am usually right and they will cut a deal

The cuts will have a trigger for when the economy can sustain the cuts.

Cutting in a bad economy puts us back to more layoffs and our economy needs spending right now not cuts.

Just the facts that work.

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RF — “Joe and USinUK: Mitt produced PROFIT, plain and simple.”

So does a bank robber.

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Kayaker–

“Patrick, 11:00,

Looks like Romney was spot on….. he just missed it by a few percent.”

I think that quote had quite a bit to do with the “few percent” of the votes that caused him to lose the election.

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USinUK: I THOUGHT I was going to get a kitchenaide mixer for my birthday and was going to make your Ciabatta bread when I did, but alas, I didn’t get it. I need to see if my neighbor has one………

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Paul,

that’s because you’re with the leeches…

sequestration is the reset that this country needs.

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Notes on the election.

Since the 1904 election Obama is one of 4 US presidents to win two
presidential elections by more than 50% of the popular vote cast.
Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Reagan & Obama. Rare company for a pinko
socialist islamic Kenyan with no birth certificate and a hang up on British colonialism.

Starting with Nixon in 1968 Republicans won the popular vote in 5 of 6 elections. The exception, Carter in 1976.

The Democrats then moved their party toward the center for the 1992 election.

Starting with Clinton in 1992 Democrats have now won the popular vote
in 5 of 6 elections. The exception being Bush in 2004.

Will the Republicans move their party toward the center? Or maybe more important will they “soften” their rhetoric?

If so, it will require not only the national party but the state parties to also join the move. It is hard to ask a Latino to vote for the Ryan Plan while telling them that their Tia Rosa must “self deport” or that Tio Miguel cannot pick watermelons in South Georgia.

It will be difficult to obtain the women’s vote by passing laws requiring vaginal insertions, saying that only some rapes are “legitimate” and calling women “sluts” when they testify before Congress on an issue.

Bottom line is you cannot call me worthless scum on Monday and expect me to vote for you on Tuesday. I would think that would be elementary politics.

And, no one has answered the big question. How in hell did the Republicans lose the election to an incumbent with the worse economy in over 80 years, the highest unemployment in over 80 years, with his Middle East policy in shambles and, if I may, he is black??????

Is it possible the Republican message is a generation out of date?

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Another favorite Hitler quote…..”By the skillful use of propaganda, one can make the people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise”.

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USNUK

I guess we all say things we regret but she is spot on about running out of other peoples money…if those on the left want to deny the trends…LIBS believe religiously in the credibility of man made climate change but remain in denial that we have become a welfare state…despite little evidence to the contrary for the latter…

I’m not sure there exists a solid example of a socialist model today that is successful by our standards…the one’s that allegedly work are restricted demographically and involve government decisions that would never fly here..

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““Joe and USinUK: Mitt produced PROFIT, plain and simple.””

and THAT is the problem with Republicans – people are second to profit.

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THIs past weekend the church I’m a member of had a feed the hungry project-gave away free hotdogs to everyone at a local park. We had many leftover(uncooked) hotdogs, so we gave the leftover ones(150 dogs) to a poor guy and his sister and as they didn’t have a vehicle I gave them a ride home. On the way to their house I said you’ve got alot of hotdogs there you might want to have a cookout and invite some neighbors over. This is what he said,”shoot, I can’t afford to feed the whole world.” Funny how this fundamental idea is engrained in even the poorest of the poor who are dependent on the govt. You just can’t afford to give everyone a free ride. I got mine. You get your’s. Not just a conservative idea, is it?

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kayaker

“See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”

GWB

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Speaking of Republican crazy…

Jim Galloway reported today that Georgia Senate majority leader Chip Rogers hosted a crazy Agenda 21 conspiracy meeting at the state capitol last month.

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No, just a realist. Not a leech like your kind.

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“Question for you libs if you care to answer. What message should the GOP stop sending to specific voter blocks as Jindal susggests?”

Answer: FIRST, when your defacto “speaker” calls a young woman a slut on National Radio, instead of cheering his words, denounce them.

Answer: SECONDLY, when one of your ilk are running for the highest office and goes on National television and says, “If the NAACP invited him to talk, he’d go there and talk about “why the African-American community should demand paychecks and not be satisfied with food stamps.” – denounce those comments.

Answer: THIRDLY, When someone in your party tell 1/10th of the populace to “self deport” — denounce those comments.

Answer: FOURTH, When your Congress has a chance to make history and uphold the Fair Pay For Women Act, don’t parade your 4 women party representatives in front of the cameras and tell them to say, “We don’t need this bill!! This is unnecessary!!”; while hundreds of thousands of women are working two jobs to make ends meet and STILL don’t make enough as their male counterpart. — denounce this sentiment that women are LESS than a man.

These are just for starters, I can think of millions more……………

Stands: remind me again–what did the rich trust-fund d-bag you ran as President actually *produce*, again?

Jobs. In Indian and China……….

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Stevie Ray – the problem is that Americans don’t realize the other half of the issue …

you have liberals with other people’s money … but the Tory’s in Maggie’s day propped up government by selling the family silver. Once they ran out of public entities to sell, they started having problems.

Mick – yes, people in the UK HATE Thatcher – I’m talking with the intensity of a thousand white-hot suns kind of hate. She destroyed the north of England by shutting down the mines AND the shipbuilding – without reinvesting and trying to prop up the area.

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“Better a recession than to continue on the path of the leech”

yay!!!!

I’ll play.

Define “leech” … who is a leech in your pov

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RB from Gwinnett…… I love your rationalizations really funny stuff……. thank you !!!!!……

So is comment intelligent ? ” Deficits don’t matter “

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How in hell did the Republicans lose the election to an incumbent with the worse economy in over 80 years, the highest unemployment in over 80 years, with his Middle East policy in shambles and, if I may, he is black??????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWxztZs_atM

Not quite the same specific message applies to the GOP, but the overall theme does.

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More from the Thatcher era:

When they kick in your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands behind your head
Or on the trigger of a gun?

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BRo @ 11:14

Spot on.

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Nero, welcome!

It is always good to get “new” bloggers here!

(LOL at you gutless name-changers who can’t even deal with one little electoral beat down!)

Methinks, Jindal was referring to you…

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On a totally different subject:

An Arizona woman, in despair at the re-election of Democratic President Barack Obama, ran down her husband with the family car in suburban Phoenix on Saturday because he failed to vote in the election, police said on Monday.
Holly Solomon, 28, was arrested after running over husband Daniel Solomon following a wild chase that left him pinned underneath the vehicle.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/13/15137488-police-arizona-woman-runs-down-husband-with-car-for-not-voting?lite

Anyone else think Republican women might be wound just a WEE bit too tight?

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Suck, 11:13,

“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and, eventually, they will believe it”.

Adolph Hitler

The real winner in this election is the main stream media. Like Bookman, so far up Bozo’s ass that they cannot see the light of day. They have abdicated their duty and responsibility to the American people. Their right to a free press and freedom of expression has with it, responsibilities. The American electorate has been let down….. in the worst way.

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“He looks just like Alfred E. Neuman and talks like Gomer Pyle.”

And that’s the only thing in any way entertaining about listening to him speak most of the time.

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kayaker 71

November 13th, 2012
11:10 am

Another favorite Hitler quote…..”By the skillful use of propaganda, one can make the people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise”.
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Oh your talk radio?FOX news god’s are masters of Dr. Goebbels use of propaganda. Just look in the mirror. Your ideas are based on lies and your philosophy has been soundly rejected, yet you are quoting the same lies that got you in this mess. You have been thoroughly brain washed.

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Jam,
I was looking at my keyboard to see if the “Z” key was close to the “N” key, thinking that Nero might have been Zero, but alas…

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How did repubs lose?

Nearly 50 million on food stamps. Obama scared everyone to death with his rhetoric,”take away” theme, abortions, free contraception, dope, throw grandma under the bus, homosexual marriage,Romney is a tax cheat and a murderer”and we could go all day. People bought it hook, line and sinker. A person will risk their life to stop some thief at night from “taking away” their 20 dollar water hose.

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“Anyone else think Republican women might be wound just a WEE bit too tight?”

not just the wimmen

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Maybe we should become the “Santa Claus” Party like the democrats. That way we could garner more votes from the “takers’ of society. Sorry you liberals don’t like that but it is true.

All you “Obamacare” voters notice what is beginning to happen? Business is beginning to let people go and to cut back on work hours of remaining employees in order to comply with the impending Obamacare rules. What voting block do you think will be hurt the most? The very people that voted this clown back into office. Sorry people, you cut your own throats.

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Politico reports that Romney and other cons were very dissatisfied with the polling company they hired
whose name was POS. I swear -you can’t make stuff like this up! Also their ORCA system for tracking actual votes and getting voters out completely failed. I guess having a businessman in charge did not help. Maybe it was because he did not outsource the work to the Chinese and others..

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Brosephus™

November 13th, 2012
10:26 am
however a true mandate is a 49/1 Reagan victory

Reagan had a mandate??? I guess that’s why he went spend happy and did all those tax increases and such. That second term unleashed the big government hounds and this country has never looked back.
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I like when people talk about mandates. 40% of the eligible voters did not vote while Obama won 30%. In other words more people did not vote than either candidate won. Comparing to Reagan to Obama Reagan won 58.8% to Obama’s 50.6%. Also Reagan won 18% over Mondale. Turnout was 53.1%. Obama won roughly 2% more than Romney.

The voters are very fickled so I think to believe you have a mandate is a mistake.

The year before Reagan took office spending was 21.7% by 1988 spending was at 21.3%. Revenues under Reagan in 1980 was 19 when he left was 18.2. All numbers are a precent of GDP. Reagan neither increase government or increase taxes. However, he did increase the deficit because he lowered taxes without any significant decrease in government spending.

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“Freaking awesome Paul. I’m still chuckling.”

Paul rawks

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WOW. now check out the stealth Republican’s…… They should have done what Obama did, and hire they guys from facebook.

A major source of Romney’s GOTV problems appears to have been the disastrous Project ORCA, an expensive technological undertaking that was supposed to provide the campaign with real-time poll monitoring that would allow Republicans to target GOTV efforts on Election Day.

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Bobby Jindel must be a “drum leader” for peace and justice.

Not familiar with the organizational hierarchy of a marching band are you? A “drum leader” is nothing more than the section leader of the drum line. The leader of the entire band is the “drum MAJOR”. There’s a big difference between those two titles. Either way, I don’t see Jindal even making the cut for either of those positions.

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“Maybe we should become the “Santa Claus” Party like the democrats.”

Lol! Repeating what crazy Rush Limbaugh just said. Republican crazies, you have your daily crazypoint.

What was Kayaker just saying about propaganda and the “mainstream” media!

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Good Old Maggie. Roger Waters loved her as well……

Brezhnev took Afghanistan.
Begin took Beirut.
Galtieri took the Union Jack.
And Maggie, over lunch one day,
Took a cruiser with all hands.
Apparently, to make him give it back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR58Heh-STU

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What did Romney produce through his Bain Company?

“The firm was founded in 1984 by partners from the consulting firm Bain & Company. Since inception it has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino’s Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin’ Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys “R” Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel.”

I know all you do nothing losers will complain he didn’t really do anything, but here’s the key to how this worked.

“Bain Capital was founded in 1984 by Bain & Company partners Mitt Romney, T. Coleman Andrews III, and Eric Kriss, after Bill Bain had offered Romney the chance to head a new venture that would invest in companies and apply Bain’s consulting techniques to improve operations.”

The part you mental midgets want to ignore is most or all of these companies were headed for failure if not purchased, repaired,or repurposed by Bain. This was not a corporate raider firm.

But ya’ll go on bashing them as if you have a dam clue how an actual business works. In fact, go bocott something in protest of people actually managing their own business.

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hmm. I haven’t really posted on Jay’s topic yet, got lost in the weeds responding to this or that comment.

Here’s what I think sane-sounding GOPers like Jindal ought to focus on. I’ll quote from the article:

“The Republican Party is going to fight for every single vote,” he said. “That means the 47 percent and the 53 percent, that means any other combination of numbers going up to 100 percent.”

He’s on to something, but he and others have to be far more explicit. For starters, own up to your own party’s leadership role in creating these tax policies you now pretend to decry. Nobody pointed a gun to your heads and made you vote aye for EITCs.

Second, own up to just how disgusting it is for Americans like me, who have been fortunate enough to have HAD an income tax liability every year of my working life, to hear less-well-off working Americans described as “moochers,” and derided by the latter-day Ayn Randians as being somehow dependent upon “producers”–as if the wealthiest Americans actually produce anything of value (many, perhaps most, do not).

And then, adjust your policies and messages accordingly. It really shouldn’t hurt a bit.

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Right on Bobby Jindal!

The anti-science, anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-Planned Parenthood, pro-stupidity, anit-progress GOP needs to go. And they need to take the Southern Baptists, the Assemblies of God, Tony Perkins, James Dobson, Donald Wildmon, Mike Huckabee, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry and Rick Santorum with them.

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Keep swallowing every lie cons.

“The polls are wrong”.

“The polls oversampled Dems.”

Too funny.

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Joe, you and I can bring the country together over a cuban sandwich…Great place in St Augustiine, a classic (not sure-”Columbia”)?

@FR, absolutely YES and I’ve met a couple and it ain’t pretty….Then there is the Godzilla chick on the left, wound tight would be an understatement…..

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Moderate Line

You should talk to kayaker about the mandate thing. He’s the one who said Reagan had a mandate. I was simply addressing his quote.

As to Reagan, he had roughly the same number of federal employees in the 1980’s as we have now, yet Obama’s called a big government president. Federal employees made up 1% of the work force then vs .5% now. Reagan may have done good in some areas, but in other areas, he’s no different than any other president when it comes to “big government”. I don’t praise him as some kind of superhuman president, nor do I castigate him as a failure. He’s simply human, and he’s done pretty much the same thing that all other presidents have done.

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And we just keep hearing the same old lies from the same old people. They are just too stupid to realize those lies didn’t work BEFORE the election and they aren’t working now.

We REAL Americans are simply going about our business and rebuilding the Country that Republicans and George Bush tried to destroy.

There is a REASON Papa John’s is a DISTANCE third place in the pizza wars and his recent bad decision will drop him back further. He not only screwed his employees with his defeatist FOX crap, but he screwed all his franchisees and investors. But in true Republican Mitt Romney form, he will fill his pockets off the money stolen from others………….

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Don’t listen to that raghead, cons.

You’re doing jus fine. Don’t change a thang.

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Amen Governor!

Someone needs to recreate a party of fiscal sanity. Too many Americans seem to have forgotten nothing is free.

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In fact, Rush is right! You aren’t conservative enough.

Listen to him (like I needed to tell you that)

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Monty — “Yeh, just like some of you guys(girls) like what some foolish(R) senator hopeful said about women and abortion.”

What’s that? Republicans denounced Akin’s and Mourdock’s comments en masse, you say?

Speak up, man, I can’t hear your denials for all the Republicans shouting “slut” in here.

“Pot meet kettle.”

Not even close, monty.

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To avoid having committed political suicide, Jindal will today express to the media certain “code words,” thus assuring the bas that he’s still “one of them.”

Just as Romney did when he “moderated” during the closing days of his campaign: “I’m saying these things (wink, wink), so I can say I said them.”

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I don’t want to go all Peggy Noonan here, but I sense something brewing here, and that something is…conservative “entertainers” (Limbaugh, etc.), hard-line social conservatives, and the bigots in the GOP are about to get thrown under the bus by the party. It may cost them in the short-term, but better that than to become (remain?) a Southern and fly-over state only party. Of the ten states that Romney carried by the highest percentage, Alabama is the largest. Obama’s ten included California, New York and New Jersey.

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Sinkwich

“Jay and his habitat for hemp-hazed hippies are blogging about.”

” There haven’t been hippies in centuries. Are you freeze-dried or doing hard time? ”

(Corporal Stitch Jones in Heartbreak Ridge)

Personally, I’m betting Jones was right on both counts -

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Gang, before you waste any time debating this little lying Joey HM, just know this is the mentality you’re dealing with.

“Joe Hussein Mama
November 12th, 2012
4:58 pm
Big difference between “taking somebody down” and ‘taking someone down a notch or two.”

Yea, BIG difference Joey…. Geez.

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Thanks Fred. Come jump. Promise the fall won’t be too painful.

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Do I need to show you my hall pass to HamVet?

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bring back ska.

ok then, just one more from that Second Wave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTGemShG6Q0&feature=related

(I can quit any time, really I can.)

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Erwin–

“Paul and Stevie..and Patrick
I get it…I wasn’t the one who said CC and Evolution were scientific certainties…Just pointing out they both have a level of uncertainty which is much different than reasonable doubt…we can never know anything with complete certainty…and I am well aware of the pitfalls of “scientific theory” …just sayin’”

I’m good with that.

Thanks!

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JamVet: “Keep up the good work. And say hi to Alan West for us, OK?”

Don’t joke too soon. There’s always room for another loon — in GOP fever swamp Georgia.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83765.html
http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/11/13/your-daily-jolt-an-invitation-to-allen-west-from-the-ga-gop/?cxntfid=blogs_political_insider_jim_galloway

Your daily jolt: An invitation to Allen West from the Ga. GOP

Though he has yet to concede, U.S. Rep. Allen West, a former Army lieutenant colonel and Republican firebrand, narrowly lost his re-election bid last week.

So what’s in the cards for the coastal Florida congressman after his lame-duck duties are done? Sue Everhart, chairman of the Georgia Republican party, said Monday she would love it if West, an Atlanta native and Grady High School grad, returned to his roots.

“I would be glad to have him come back to Georgia and at some point run here,” Everhart told my AJC colleague Daniel Malloy during a discussion about diversity within the Republican party. “I would certainly try to help him because he has done his job. The way he ran his race didn’t in any way interfere with the job he did. He ran as a Republican, a conservative Republican.”

Everhart called the one-term West “one of the finest congressmen this country’s ever had.”

Returns show that West’s Democratic challenger, Patrick Murphy, edged out the incumbent with a winning margin of less than 1 percent.

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How in hell did the Republicans lose the election to an incumbent with the worse economy in over 80 years, the highest unemployment in over 80 years, with his Middle East policy in shambles and, if I may, he is black??????

Is it possible the Republican message is a generation out of date?

They lost because they SCARED THE SANE PEOPLE. You start talking about letting rapists have custodial rights to children that you are FORCING women to have — that’s scary.

Give people some magic dust and say it’s math and that, “It didn’t work those other times, but THIS time it will!” — that’s scary.
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Paul: And I’m not a leech just ’cause I don’t pay rent ’cause my mom said it’s an advance on my inheritance.

Too funny!! Its a damn shame though that Nero didn’t get the joke!

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Monty: THIs past weekend the church I’m a member of had a feed the hungry project-gave away free hotdogs to everyone at a local park. We had many leftover(uncooked) hotdogs…

Really? You couldn’t think of a better lie story than that?!? I outdo that one:

Last week, my church went to Whole Foods and bought up a lot of canned goods for the poor. We saw this woman who was _______________________ (enter race, ethnicity, and religious affiliation in blank), and she had on this expensive _______________________ (enter either jewelry or expensive shoes here); and was paying for her _______________ (enter steak or lobster here); with food stamps!!!

SEE! That’s how ya do it!

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“Fiscal cliff” is the new “Benghazi”, which was the new “entitlement society”, which was the new “long form birth certificate”, which was the new “socialism president” which was the new “moral equivalency” which was the new…

Republispeak really does crack me up…

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Rb from gwinnet,

Little Joe is lying again. Reminds me of Rick in the movie Casablanca when told that there was gambling going on in his casino. “I’m shocked! Shocked I tell ya!”

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SEE! That’s how ya do it!

You left out the x number of kids all wearing Air Jordan’s talking on their iphones, she went to the parking lot and got into her brand new Caddy with 40″ spinners, and most important of all — she bought PROM DRESSES with food stamps.

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He’s right. The Democrats are the party of big business and bailouts and protecting Wall Street. That’s if you go by their actual actions instead of the rhetoric.

The best cognitive dissonance is when lefties talk about how bad big business is, and then defend the stimulus (a giant giveaway from us to big business). Sorry, you can’t raise a hew and cry about protecting big business while supporting actions that protected big business far more than just about anything else ever.

The real party of stupid is the one that buys into that contradiction 100%. The Democratic Party.

Not that their aren’t plenty of fools in the GOP. If they’d stop pandering to social conservatives, and answer questions about abortion with stuff like, “Changes to our current abortion laws are not and will not be on my agenda” and get with the newer generation on gay marriage then they would dominate. But they are too stupid to see that. In the end ridiculous strawman arguments won this election for Obama, not anything the GOP actually planned to do. There was no war on women, it was made up by the left. Romney wasn’t going to try to change Roe v. Wade, and he never would have.

But the scare tactics from the left worked really well, their sheep believed every word.

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OK dammit. I got a free pass on the dishes yesterday, I’m not wasting it. Time to get off my fat butt, do the dishes and make a killer meal. Heck, I think I’m even going to try make USinUK’s ciabatta bread. My neighbor said she has the kitchen aide and the dough hook. I’ve never made bread before.

Ya’ll have a nice day fighting like hell. Maybe one day the Repubs here will pull their head out of their butts long enough to get some oxygen and start thinking again……… if they don’t and the far left wingers get control we’ll REALLY be in trouble……..

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Looks the GOP base has gotten over their election day loss. They are back to fight Barack Obama’s liberal socialist agenda and the Muslim Brotherhood. Pleaseeeeeeeee keep watching Fox News and drinking the Ru$h Limbaugh kool-aid.

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Cons can’t lead. They like it in the rear too much

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“Reminds me of Rick in the movie Casablanca when told that there was gambling going on in his casino. “I’m shocked! Shocked I tell ya!””

Thulsa – watch the movie again – it was the great Claude Rains that spoke the immortal line to which you refer.

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RB — “I know all you do nothing losers will complain he didn’t really do anything”

Dude, I own some Cisco stock, but that doesn’t mean that *I* produce routers.

Bain *invested* in Sealy. That doesn’t mean that Bain actually *made* mattresses. Try again.

“but here’s the key to how this worked.”

It’s simple investment, RB. Stop trying to make it some sort of Secret Blend of 11 Herbs and Spices.

“The part you mental midgets want to ignore is most or all of these companies were headed for failure if not purchased, repaired,or repurposed by Bain.”

When the government bailed out GM, that was a bad thing. But when Bain bailed out Sealy, that was a good thing? And you wanted Romney to run the government the same way he ran Bain? I *do* wish you’d make your mind up, RB. (giggling)

“This was not a corporate raider firm.”

That’s *exactly* what it was. If Bain saw greater profit in dismantling a company in which it had invested and extracting the capital from the remains, then that’s what they did. There are numerous examples of Bain having done just that.

“But ya’ll go on bashing them as if you have a dam clue how an actual business works.”

Been there, done that, sold out to a larger competitor. What do you think *you* have to teach me there, Cowboy?

“In fact, go bocott something in protest of people actually managing their own business.”

No, I think I’ll stay right here and continue correcting you, RB. (laughing)

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Really.. a prom dress…NICE and economical, didn’t know Walmart carried prom dresses, well bust my britches, ya’ll are so helpful, ….MAMA, I need to go to Walmarts, chack the bus schedule and grap the stamps, well bust my brithces……… daddy, you should ahve told me earlier….

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The truely[sic] sad thing is, people this ^^^^^ stupid are actually allowed to vote. Geez…

Oh, the irony. Geez….

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DannyX, “I’m not the one who was so embarrassed that I had to change my blog name.”

Oh really? How many other names do you post under from your office at the AJC, DannyX?

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F. Sinkwich enough of the socialist crap. Do yourself a favor and go look up “socialism” in the dictionary. Then you will know that you CANNOT have a socialist system without the government nationalizing (confiscating) private businesses. Has that happened under Obama? NO. Has he taken steps to seize private businesses? NO.

Obama is an arrogant intellectual and a liberal democrat. That is what Obama is. He is NOT a socialist and he is NOT promoting socialism. No matter how often you blindly regurgitate the Tea Party socialism talking point that will not make it true.

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Thulsa – watch the movie again – it was the great Claude Rains that spoke the immortal line to which you refer.

Just joking/fooling card in 3…2…1….

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if you gon talk to somebody from Austria,
you have speak Austrian, right?

I believe it’s the former Law Professor that is confused about the Austrian language.

http://youtu.be/9Bp5_E39yuc

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The truely (sic) sad thing is, people this ^^^^^ stupid are actually allowed to vote.

Based on last week’s results, you might think about looking long and hard in a mirror.

But I get your point. It’s pretty obvious that you right wing fascists would LOVE to keep a whole bunch of American citizens from voting.

Good luck with that modern day Jim Crow endeavor…

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@lovely liz, so how’s that english degree from north alabama working out for you?

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RB — “Gang, before you waste any time debating this little lying Joey HM, just know this is the mentality you’re dealing with.”

Aww, aren’t you CUTE, RB!

How about we keep you honest and go to the tape instead? Wouldn’t want you to be dishonest and leave anything out that makes your fabrications look bad. (giggling)

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/11/12/georgias-tom-price-a-central-figure-in-d-c-drama/?cp=6#comment-1148378

And folks will find plenty of additional fun reading earlier on that selfsame page.

BTW, did you come up with those freight figures I asked for? Or are your latest emotional pyrotechnics an admission that you can’t find facts to support your raging argument of yesterday?

Oh, and just so you know, I’m quite able to have *polite* discussions with quite a few folks on here with whom I disagree. It’s just you and a few other malcontents that don’t seem to be able to summon up that degree of civility and comportment.

But I’m here to help you, Punkin!

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Uh, oh.

Papa Kyle came home next door and there’s gonna be hell to pay!

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kayaker 71 – 49% of the people in this country simply do not want to live in a Bozo America”

Delta is ready when you and they are.

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indigo — “Delta is ready when you and they are.”

One wonders how serious they are about their secession murmurings.

About as serious as the child who threatens to hold his breath if he doesn’t get the box of breakfast cereal he’s demanding, I’m guessing.

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Bro should see a long line of con self deportations instead of signing some silly petition to leave our country.

Get out cons.

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Yea, littly lying Joey, we all believe Bain bought these failing companies and simply by having money, they all became successful. They were all very successful consultants before they purchased them, but I’m sure you’re right, they just gave them money and no advice.

You go with that little lying Joey.

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Liberal Nightmare! Dude! long time no hear from you!

Seems like it was just seven, maybe eight days ago…

For the geographically challenged, Akron to Cleveland is blue Ohio and it ain’t looking good for the O-dumber. Surprisingly, the number of undecideds in the polls have dropped to below 2%. You’re toast libs. You won’t see this in the media, but stay tuned for Tuesday night. I’ll be around to rub it in…..

Well thanks for coming around to “rub it in!”

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I don’t want to get all Peggy Noonan here, but something is brewing, and that something is…conservative “entertainers” (Limbaugh, etc.), hard-line social conservatives, no compromise tea party types and the bigots in the GOP are about to get thrown under the bus by the party.

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oh, how you did mesmerize us with your uncanny foresight, Liberal Nightmare…

You’re messiah is toast and they now are looking at alternatives that do not include Ohio – which ain’t happening. Stay tuned…I’ll be back to rub it in on Wednesday!

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Lib-turds – up your crack buy at the corner today – it will mellow you into a non-rioting state of mind come Wednesday.

So *which* Wednesday was that supposed to be, again?

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RB

You should take some time and examine Bains entire body of work including current portfolio as well as exited investments over the past 20 years or so…you characterization of these folks being evil, vultures couldn’t be more wrong….they had no more failed (via bankruptcy or divestitures) than companies in general…there is not evidence that any jobs were shipped to china during Romneys watch..they all have deals they regret and are not not-for-profits

I disagree with much of what Romney stood for…when it was possible to clarify, but damning PE’s utility in financial system as part of class warfare and character assasination, suggests you bought everything the DEMs sell…hook, line and sinker..

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Ben – While you say Romney wasn’t going to overturn Roe v Wade, we do have him on video stating that he’d appoint Supreme Court Justices who would overturn it, plus we know his party’s platform supported the Personhood amendment. So, there’s a fair amount of evidence that you’re wrong, or that you believe Romney was simply lying. Compare that to the right’s belief that Obama is going to take their guns, begin drone attacks in the US, take away their 401K’s, etc. These were things, among much more, that were being used by right wing media to frighten people to vote Republican. Was there ANY evidence to support these beliefs, or was it pulled out of someone’s rear? So, there’s your difference (or, at least, a difference) between parties.

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Little lying Joey, “BTW, did you come up with those freight figures I asked for? ”

I do believe I asked you for the percentage of CNG/LP vs. diesel used to move freight long before you came back with your silly request. I still don’t have an answer for that, Joey. Do you really think anybody gives a crap about your requests such as that ^^^^ one when all you provide is piles of BS, a bunch of demands of others you are never willing to meet yourself, and are an arrogant jerk? Not likely little lying Joey.

Why don’t you humor us all and explain the difference between “taking somebody down” and ‘taking someone down a notch or two.”

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CITIZEN

Many folks feel the way I do…climate change certainly is occuring but there is reasonable doubt as to whether it is man-made..or if so, if anything can really be done..

Unlike climate change, an unimpeachable amount of data exists to render those subscribing to the 6000 year concept as the blind leading the blind..

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lefty_316: your reading assignment is “too big to fail”…but your point about socialism is well taken . Also please refer to the Bankruptcy proceedings of GM, really let’s be fair the owners and bond holders may have a different interpretation than you. As for the liberal arrogance, have to agree with you,seen it many times in the academic world: combine intelligence+arrogance+narcissism and you have a volatile brew for ANYONE (dem or repub),….

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Stevie Ray – Not saying that Bain is evil, but here’s an interesting article on one of their businesses and how it has possibly copied (to be determined in court) the design of American made tool and sent it to China for manufacture. The American designer is going to fight this in court, but, in the meantime, he’s having to lay off American workers. So, are they evil, or good, or just businessmen looking out for the bottom line?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/09/business/popular-wrench-fights-a-chinese-rival.html/?pagewanted=all

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Joe mama and piles of crap? Sounds like Joe has enjoyed one too many a Cleveland steamer.

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stands – 12:26

Phallic challenged hunters are a bedrock of the Tea Party Republicans. So, trapping wild pigs and transporting them elsewhere to hunt is just the sort of geek behaviour you’d expect from these yahoos.

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your reading assignment is “too big to fail”…

That would be hedge fund LTCM (Long Term Capital Management) bailed out by meth-head’s #1 randroid acolyte, Alan Greenspan.

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Kyle is having to shut down posts on his blog.

Jeez, just had a peek.

I’d only done an innocuous little drive-by (where I complimented Kyle on his rationality) this morning so it wasn’t me, honest.

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Joe – 12:13

And, their maturity level is about the same as these demanding children.

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Stevie, “suggests you bought everything the DEMs sell…hook, line and sinker..”

I think you have me confused with somebody else. I don’t buy any of the Dem’s crap and know well the value of PE’s. This whole war on producers is going to end up with us producing as much as most of europe at some point in the future. Think about it, libs. Outside of cars, what else comes from socialist europe?

Sounds like a bright future for us doesn’t it….

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RB — “Think about it, libs. Outside of cars, what else comes from socialist europe?”

Ice-queen Russian “brides,” still sticky from the postage stamps that were plastered all over them?

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Kamchak, no it would be the other investment banks that kicked in the cash, read the book, now ..randroid, meth-head, angry ramblings from….now get to the busstop, your daughter is waiting….

@Indigo, the bus awaits you also, (Phallic challenged…just where do you guys get this stuff….)

Jamvet, your simply an angry bigot,plain and simple…..nothing positive, angry ramblings-add something man-build up,give me a reference for your ramblings-please not U-tube, please…I am so happy that this election and the movement of the repubs will move this country out of the simplicity and ignorance of race, gender ,sexual orientation and the like!. No more quota’s,advancement on accomplishment…..the majesty of it all, nirvana…

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RB,

‘Europe in 2010 had a nominal GDP of $19.920 trillion…

Of the top 500 largest corporations measured by revenue (Fortune Global 500 in 2010), 184 have their headquarters in Europe. 161 are located in the EU, 15 in Switzerland, 6 in Russia, 1 in Turkey, 1 in Norway.

“The bulk of the population in Western Europe still enjoys the highest living standards in the world, and in the world’s history.”

Jindal was talking about you.

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….now get to the busstop, your daughter is waiting….

Unmarried with no kids, sport.

Deposit another quarter and try again.

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Robert Brown is having a melt-down.

Just observin’.

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LHU, “Of the top 500 largest corporations measured by revenue (Fortune Global 500 in 2010), 184 have their headquarters in Europe. 161 are located in the EU, 15 in Switzerland, 6 in Russia, 1 in Turkey, 1 in Norway.”

Where do they produce their goods?

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‘Where do they produce their goods?’

In Europe…Duh…

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I tried telling you cons for a decade that you are kooks.

Try listening to Americans that are proven right.

This eliminates most of your media but there are a couple left with credibility.

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There is still a bright spot…..at least that pud-face Gore did not get in…..I’m moderate but would go with Obama in a second over that idiot! Obama is well spoken and intelligent whether one agree’s with his politics or not. Gore, with his “lock-bokth” (yes, that is how he kept pronouncing “lock-box”) did manage to show there is idiocy on BOTH SIDES! Now, since he is Mr. Irrelevant, he gets to blame Repubs and coal for global warming, which is happening in the entire universe! Hopefully there will be some compromise on BOTH sides.

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LHU, “‘Where do they produce their goods?’

In Europe…Duh…”

Yea, and American company Apple produces goods in America, right?

You have no idea where they produce their goods do you? When was the last time you bought anything that said, “made in France”, or Germany, or Spain, or anywhere else in Europe?

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RB — “Well, gee, little lying Joey, why don’t you explain to us all how saying they only “invested” in Sealy wasn’t just giving them money and no advice?”

No. Stop being a butthole, start talking to me like an adult and maybe I’ll play nice with you again. Continue being a demanding and argumentative Richard, and I’ll just keep yanking your chain, chew-toy.

And the first place you can start being polite is by putting up some support for your argument yesterday. Get me some data that supports your argument. The freight data I asked you for yesterday would be a good place to start. So get on it, RB.

“You clearly have absolutely no idea what Bain did or how they did it”

Well, as you said yourself yesterday, everything that gets posted here is just opinion. So that’s just your *opinion,* RB.

“but you go on spouting some more of your misguided lies about them as if you do.”

RB, I don’t need to convince *you* of anything. What *you* think is beside the point. The fact of the matter is that Bain didn’t *produce* anything material, and that they *did* both revive businesses *and* extract remaining value from them, depending on which business case they determined they were dealing with. Either way, Bain could realize profit and make money — but not make anything *material.*

Bain didn’t preserve jobs out of any sort of altruism; Bain did it when they thought they could revive companies and then make a profit from selling them or taking them public.

You need to pay closer attention to what I *actually* say, not to what you *think* I said or what you *imagined* I’ve said.

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‘When was the last time you bought anything that said, “made in France”, or Germany, or Spain, or anywhere else in Europe?’

Last night at Taco Mac. Paulaner Hefeweizen…not saying how many…

Dude, seriously, you are embarrassing yourself…again…

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When was the last time you bought anything that said, “made in France”, or Germany, or Spain, or anywhere else in Europe?

Yesterday.

A Pinot Gris from the Alsace, and a Valpolicella from Italy.

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in full disclosure in reference to LTCM : Too big too fail,;”fed-organized, Wall Street-financed bailout of ….. LTCM…in 1998″

Very good, sport.

Here’s a cookie, and now run along like a good wee bairn — the adults are busy.

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Those that signed the petition should be stripped of US citizenship and encouraged to self deport.

First, do an audit and get money for the deficit.

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Good beer, but I’ll stay with Sam Adams…me and my friend Sam….

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those celebrating the Allen West defeat may, shall we say, regret his defeat in FL, if he moves to GA.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83765.html?hp=l8

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oops — “those celebrating the Allen West defeat may, shall we say, regret his defeat in FL, if he moves to GA.”

Far from trying to rid its ranks of wingnuts, the GA GOP now appears to be actively *recruiting* them from elsewhere.

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Thanks Joe,

I did not know that.

I think they can always self deport but good to know they will have to pay for it.

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Otherwise, good luck trying to physically *leave* the US without a passport.

The last time I checked on going to Canada,I didn’t need a passport.I just couldn’t come back without one!

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Stands for decibels,

A safe urban environment? You musta missed all the riots, train bombings, etc in Europe these last few years. Public transportation in the smaller villages and Towns sucks from what I remember. More Europeans would love to own cars. They just can’t afford to. A Lotta middle class folks in Europe either don’t own a car or a family owns just one. My dads landlord in Germany couldn’t afford a car. His landlord dude. I’ll take the u.s. Where even poor people own cars. Delta flies to Europe when you’re ready.

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‘Public transportation in the smaller villages and Towns sucks from what I remember.’

More ignorance on display…think about it, dude…public transportation/small villages…geez…

‘More Europeans would love to own cars. They just can’t afford to.’

Got a citation for that?

‘My dads landlord in Germany couldn’t afford a car.’

Why bother…

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“Hey hypocrites. I noticed that your grammar correction obsession is prejudiced”

Hey Nunna! In general, we don’t do “grammar correction” here (except possibly in the face of extreme provocation, or if the irony is just too much…).

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Kamspam alert. Looks like the lame ass repetitive post bunny is at work again.

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“Regnad – That was the only kind of response I got last night. Grammar/spelling corrections and endless ridicule for not distinguishing between income tax and other taxes.”

ahh – specificity is another thing altogether…spelling/grammar usually gets a pass, but if you don’t mean waht you say, you’ll probably hear about it – I know I have…

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We do need a party in the US for moderates. There is no legitimate option available.

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Jindal is one of the 8 Republican Governors who refuses or says they will not implement the Affordable Care Act(expand Medicaid) in his state. Our Georgia Governor is another…I would say that’s pretty stupid.

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[...] Jindal: GOP should ‘stop being the stupid party’ (blogs.ajc.com) [...]

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So ends the political career of one Bobby Jindal, here today, the thirteenth day of November 2012. RIP.

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kamchak- Publicly throw Norquist, Fox News and talk-radio under the bus, then we’ll talk.

All propoganda, all the time! 24/7 propoganda coverage of everything you need to know. I think we can fix every problem in the country by the end of the week. Brilliant!

Vote obama: free koolaid for everyone!

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Jindal should stop being a coconut sellout. Happy Diwali.

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