Another top general ensnared in Petraeus scandal
I guess if you create a culture in which generals are treated as rock stars, they eventually begin to act like, well, rock stars.
Complete with groupies.
Marine Gen. John R. Allen
As The Washington Post reports:
ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY AIRCRAFT — The FBI probe into the sex scandal that led to the resignation of CIA director David Petraeus has expanded to ensnare Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced early Tuesday.
According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of “potentially inappropriate” e-mails between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close friendship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall. Allen, a Marine, succeeded Petraeus as the top allied commander in Afghanistan in July 2011….
Jill Kelley
The latest development in the unfolding scandal has shaken President Obama’s national-security staff and upended his carefully chosen plans for his military and intelligence team in his second term.
It also further calls into question the personal behavior of two of the U.S. military’s highest-ranking and most respected figures, who apparently ignored concerns about the highly sensitive nature of their jobs as they embraced personal relationships with younger women who were not their wives.
It was unclear whether Allen could be subject to criminal prosecution. The senior defense official said the Pentagon was still reviewing the e-mails and declined to comment on the nature of the relationship between Allen and Kelley. “Gen. Allen disputes that he has engaged in any wrongdoing in this matter,” the official told the Associated Press.
Under the military’s Uniform Code of Military Justice, adultery is classified as a crime.
Apparently, one of the anonymous emails sent by Broadwell had accused Kelley of “inappropriately touching” Petraeus — or “Peaches,” as we now he is called by some — beneath a dining table. Unfortunately, these are just the latest and most high-profile scandals in a string of incidents involving senior military officials. And as the New York Times reports, the way this investigation has unfolded does not exactly inspire great confidence or respect for some of those entrusted with law enforcement in our country either:
“Ms. Kelley, a volunteer with wounded veterans and military families, brought her complaint (about Paula Broadwell) to a rank-and-file agent she knew from a previous encounter with the F.B.I. office, the official also said. That agent, who had previously pursued a friendship with Ms. Kelley and had earlier sent her shirtless photographs of himself, was “just a conduit” for the complaint, he said. He had no training in cybercrime, was not part of the cyber squad handling the case and was never assigned to the investigation.
But the agent, who was not identified, continued to “nose around” about the case, and eventually his superiors “told him to stay the hell away from it, and he was not invited to briefings,” the official said. The Wall Street Journal first reported on Monday night that the agent had been barred from the case.
Later, the agent became convinced — incorrectly, the official said — that the case had stalled. Because of his “worldview,” as the official put it, he suspected a politically motivated cover-up to protect President Obama. The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the agent’s concerns.
The official said the agent’s self-described “whistle-blowing” was “a little embarrassing” but had no effect on the investigation.
Everybody’s human. Everybody makes mistakes. Wearing a uniform or a badge doesn’t endow a person with some kind of immunity to temptation or bad judgment.
But still …
– Jay Bookman
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Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 13th, 2012
6:14 am
Our Top Soldiers really do seem to be dickin’ around…
Granny Godzilla
November 13th, 2012
6:21 am
Hey wait…..I thought it was gonna be the gays who ruined the armed forces.
Heck of a job, heterosexuals!
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
6:22 am
20,000 to 30,000 pages of e-mails? When in the hell was this guy actually doing his job?
RF
November 13th, 2012
6:25 am
“The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the agent’s concerns.”
A rogue “agent” alerts Eric Cantor… interesting move. Sounds like somebody had an axe to grind, a person whose own conduct is questionable at best. All this over a handful of e-mails between jealous women who were attracted to power like Monica Lewinsky. The “crime” is Paula Broadwell sending threatening e-mails, but the blood hounds on Cantor’s leash are trying their best to use this to undermine the administration and foreign policy. When all you have is bitterness, you’ll risk anything to take down anyone you can. Yeah, that’s productive.
Joel Edge
November 13th, 2012
6:27 am
“Wearing a uniform or a badge doesn’t endow a person with some kind of immunity to temptation or bad judgment.”
I don’t think anyone has made that claim, Jay.
clem
November 13th, 2012
6:36 am
have these guys ever heard of saltpeter?
rc
November 13th, 2012
6:43 am
Another selective bashing by a hack AJC writer.
Can’t look into Bengahzi but boy we can investigate every ounce of a sex story.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 13th, 2012
6:43 am
As long as there were no national security breaches occurring then I say no big deal. Let the whole thing should be between their family and God. I don’t understand this Puritan attitude that an American fighting man can only kill. But, bottom line, this does not have to be politicized. It is a matter between the generals, their families and God.
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
6:44 am
It is a matter between the generals, their families and God.
Not as long as they have security clearances.
Rightwing Troll
November 13th, 2012
6:50 am
These generals must’ve been RINOs…
weetamoe
November 13th, 2012
6:52 am
Apparently Eric Cantor did the right thing–notified the FBI boss and kept his mouth shut—but according to Jay’s follower–he has his *bloodhounds* on a string, what—chasing Obama like he’s Eiiza crossing the ice? This bright young congressman–being Jewish and conservative–is understandably detested by the Obama gang but come on! At least he did his job.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 13th, 2012
6:52 am
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
6:44 am
Explain that please. If there were no breaches, what does a clearance matter?
JamVet
November 13th, 2012
6:52 am
Can’t look into Bengahzi…
Do tell?
The Fox-induced hysteria over Benghazi collapses
November 5th, 2012 by Jay
What happens when a lie goes astray?
Don’t be a sore loser, rc. Be the good loser that you were meant to be. (grin)
Jay
November 13th, 2012
6:57 am
By “look into” Benghazi, Jamvet, I think he means “confirm my political fantasies about what happened there and why.”
You know, “unskewed” reporting, a la Fox.
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
6:58 am
Get ready to call FEMA! Will Hurricane Paula destroy the White House’s Benghazi cover-up or will the media successfully flood the American sheep with notions of a complex love affair, deflecting the reason to investigate the mischief and mistakes in Libya away from the picture-perfect President?
clem
November 13th, 2012
6:59 am
jindal to gop….stop being stupid party….
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
7:02 am
If there were no breaches, what does a clearance matter?
If I fire a weapon in your direction a few times but don’t hit you, does that matter? How about driving drunk as long as I don’t wreck?
A breach of security is cause for concern whether anyone exploits that breach or not. For example, it’s bad judgement to take a laptop or briefcase full of classified info home or leave it in your car and that person should get slapped upside the head.
MadMax
November 13th, 2012
7:06 am
Jay will stop writing about this as soon as it starts to look like there was an attempt by his staff to hold this until after the election for political reasons, then we’ll get a column on the obstructionist GOP while the President and Reid continue with their crusade to punish the “wealthy”.
Jay
November 13th, 2012
7:07 am
weetamoe, I agree. From what we’ve seen to date, Cantor handled this appropriately.
The FBI agent, on the other hand ….
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
7:07 am
You should change your political icon from a donkey to a sheep. White House has pulled the wool right over your eyes! It obvious that you are concerned for this President. That’s why you’re trolling the comments over morning coffee.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 13th, 2012
7:09 am
Just wait until the FDA approves the first women Libido enhancing drug…dicagria.
And starts shipping them to our armed forces.
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It’s not gonna be pretty.
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Mormans and Mooslims have it right.
Monogamy is unnatural.
One should have as many wives as one can afford.
It’s nobody’s business but the participates.
JamVet
November 13th, 2012
7:12 am
… punish the “wealthy”.
That claptrap worked so well for you Republicans the past four years, I can see why you are still running with it, Max!
When you fake conservatives start moaning and groaning about punishing working class Americans, you MIGHT just stop getting your arses kicked every four years…
MadMax
November 13th, 2012
7:18 am
JAmvet – and you are your usual arrogant self. Demanding a tax on one group to pay for another group is why this president has failed to bring any form of bipartisan coalition together. If he would instead ask for a revenue increases and let the parties figure out how to get there in private, he might have a chance but he and Reid take every opportunity to play the class warfare card to pandder to guys like you. And you lap it up and drool at the prospect of getting even.
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
7:20 am
Reading about this, I just had crazy idea. We really should guard against the acquisition of undue influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex.
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
7:22 am
Makes me wonder when Obozo really knew about this, hmmmmm prior to the election maybe ?…Stupid is as stupid does
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 13th, 2012
7:23 am
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
6:58 am
Get ready to call FEMA! Will Hurricane Paula destroy the White House’s Benghazi cover-up or will the media successfully flood the American sheep with notions of a complex love affair, deflecting the reason to investigate the mischief and mistakes in Libya away from the picture-perfect President?
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But what about Karl Rove??
http://twitpic.com/bcuhn0
Did he have moles in the service? the CIA? The FBI?
Was this the reason Romney dropped benghazi like a hot potatoe?
Shirtless FBI lover-boy-wannabe hands off to GOP house Rep who hands
off to Eric Cantor….
Who did what? Who did who? and …..what about Naomi.
This one has something for everybody!
Golly I love American politics.
Hey, one crazy lunatic fringe theory deserves another.
Mr Phoenix
November 13th, 2012
7:24 am
It was Bush’s fault!!!!!!
Mick
November 13th, 2012
7:24 am
Generals behaving badly, temptation knows no rank….beware, it can happen to you too but mercifully, it won’t be front page news…
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
7:27 am
Anyone else ready with the popcorn to watch our sadder righties insist that if the public had only known, we’d be looking at a Preznit-Elect Mittens today?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 13th, 2012
7:28 am
stands
that’s what gets me about this….
If the GOP thought that were the case they most certainly would have run with it.
Why didn’t they?
Mick
November 13th, 2012
7:30 am
Class warfare? Over a tax increase of 4%? Some rubes here just don’t make any sense, we managed most of the 90’s with that rate and look what happened? By the way, I say let the tax cuts expire for everyone if we are truly serious about the debt…
Georgia
November 13th, 2012
7:30 am
Broadwell. Surfer. Wine taster. Loose cannon. Kick Boxer. Sex monkey. Troll. Her threats were sent anonymously. Then she told the media that the Benghazi compound was a prison. And that the attack was to free the terrorists we detained there. She may be the greatest loose cannon in the history of the world.
I can’t get enough of this story. And why Jay isn’t digging and reporting everything he can is beyond me. Dig, sir. You’re the one getting paid. DIG!!!!!
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
7:32 am
…and speaking of the (not) Preznit elect, anyone else remember how much stink Obama took from righties for having the temerity to design a logo-seal to cover that period when he was merely a President-Elect?
like, say, this one?
http://obamashrugged.com/?p=202
Only reason I bring it up…
http://timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/screen20shot202012-11-0720at208-16-2820pm-copy.png?w=753
Recon 0311 2533
November 13th, 2012
7:33 am
Congress needs to find out the timelines on this latest Petraeus scandal. When was Mueller informed he would have had to been told when the investigation began. When did Mueller inform Holder and when did Holder inform the president. What linkage if any does this have with the Benghazi tragedy. Too much going on here that points to lies and or coverups and at the very least a serious breakdown of discipline within the Obama administration.
Atlanta Mom
November 13th, 2012
7:33 am
Good lord. As I always told my teenagers, never put anything in an email that you wouldn’t want your Grandmother to see. What’s wrong with these men?
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
7:34 am
If the GOP thought that were the case they most certainly would have run with it.
Why didn’t they?
Their inherent decency and patriotism, of course.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 13th, 2012
7:35 am
Recon,
You’re a hoot.
Georgia
November 13th, 2012
7:35 am
But who could resist a woman like Broadwell? Just take a look at this big beautiful babe. She’s a brunette, she stays fit, her measurements are every high schooler’s dream. Her voice is feminine, yet there’s a friendly, authoritative air to it. Her neck. Her shoulders. Her eyes! Now there’s a photograph of her shaking the CIA Director’s hand in front of a spread of flags. Look at the two closely and tell me that’s not sheet-eating grins, the cats who ate the canaries. This photo was taken in November, 2011, when the affair began. We could be seeing the aftermath of that first tryst. I love history.
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
7:35 am
When did Mueller inform Holder and when did Holder inform the president. What linkage if any does this have with the Benghazi tragedy.
And Recon would also like some pics of Mr. Shirtless FBI for, uh, informational purposes.
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
7:36 am
Impeach Obozo, what an idiot
Emery
November 13th, 2012
7:38 am
Let me see if I understand you. General Allen is, in your eyes already guilty of–just what? You I am sure have less evidence than the FBI however Gen Allen should be court martialed. As for myself, after 30 years in the Marines I believe we should be taking a closer look at our brave Commander in Chief over the Benghazi incident. It was OK for Bubba to nail a 19 year old intern, for which he was impeached for lying but everybody else should be strung up. You gutless SOB..
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
7:39 am
Class warfare? Over a tax increase of 4%?
It’s about the pain. Conservatives can’t bear for their wealthy benefactors to ever feel any pain, without having ordinary Americans absorb even more.
Check out this Meet the Press transcript:
[this is a rush transcript, there might be a few minor errors]
——————
Gregory: should Obama have refused
to accept the Saint’s resignation?
Schumer: no because Petreaus is a true hero
Coburn: face it – women and classified
information don’t mix
Gregory: this is another reason to regard
Benghazi as a scandal isn’t it
Coburn: indeed we must talk of nothing else
Gregory: but the Fiscal Cliff is almost
as frightening as sex
Coburn: that’s a tough call Fluffy
Gregory: the debt is all-important and
therefore we must avoid cutting spending
or raising taxes
Gregory: talk to me about inflicting pain
Coburn: Republicans are willing to cut
raises taxes if we can cut the size of the
federal government in half
Gregory: would you really raises
taxes on rich people like me??
Coburn: yes but the real problem is
greedy old and sick people
Gregory: let’s talk more about painful outcomes
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
7:40 am
GOP lost the election, but will have the last laugh here. Too bad, too. Obama will be remembered for the biggest cover-up in the nation’s history as well as destroying America’s economy and reputation around the world.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 13th, 2012
7:40 am
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
7:34 am
If the GOP thought that were the case they most certainly would have run with it.
Why didn’t they?
Their inherent decency and patriotism, of course.
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You are so damn cute!
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
7:40 am
Emery…dead on regarding Obozo and the Benghazi debacle…Impeach The Idiot in Chief
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
7:41 am
You I am sure have less evidence than the FBI however Gen Allen should be court martialed.
Emery, I have to ask–who are you talking to?
Recon 0311 2533
November 13th, 2012
7:41 am
Aquagirl,
Shouldn’t you be back in your 10th grade high school class.
GT
November 13th, 2012
7:41 am
When you mix a cocktail of politics, military and religion you have explosive situation. I have always been uncomfortable when in a religious setting the speaker will point the audience’s attention to a visiting military personality. There is a unbalanced admiration from the church for men who professionally do not represent the tenants of the church. The military is a necessary evil totally worshipped by a gun toting society not to be confused with church work.
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
7:41 am
Hey, why don’t you guys get right to work on that impeachment thing. It worked out so well for you last time.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 13th, 2012
7:43 am
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
7:40 am
GOP lost the election, but will have the last laugh here. Too bad, too. Obama will be remembered for the biggest cover-up in the nation’s history as well as destroying America’s economy and reputation around the world.
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Or
you’ll have egg on your face, change your blog name again and life will go on.
wonder what the odds are?
alex
November 13th, 2012
7:43 am
@Atlanta Mom, exactly, as for the rest of it, People mag will have a field day, then there’s the brilliant and alluring Jay response:”but, still”, see : slow news day, nothing yet tobash on the right but granny and jamvet are awake and have to entertain the am syncophants…..
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
7:43 am
Ironically, someone referred to as “Peaches” is key to the impeachment.
clem
November 13th, 2012
7:45 am
stewart. remove your head from your a$$
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
7:47 am
clem. but that’s where I keep my foodstamps.
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
7:48 am
Stands for decibels…We will, no worries, COUNTRY FIRST….at least we do not have our hand out waiting for King Obozo to pat us on the head and redistribute OUR $…stupid is as stupid does
AU Liberal in ATL
November 13th, 2012
7:48 am
One thing about this blog, reading it clearly reveals the intellectually challenged who watch Fox Noise and buy into their propaganda.
Stay on that bridge to nowhere, Einsteins. You see where it got you a week ago.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 13th, 2012
7:49 am
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
7:47 am
clem. but that’s where I keep my foodstamps
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even an animal knows you don’t defecate where you masticate.
Georgia
November 13th, 2012
7:50 am
Luckovich today! Dangerous Liasons. Fatal attraction. You get the idea that Broadwell could boil a bunny. Can America ever forgive Patraeus? Broadwell will go on to become a superstar. She’ll be a judge at one of the talent shows. Patraeus, though, is starting to look like the incompetent that I suspected when he first took over the surge. I was like, “WTF?” I am a military brat who came into being in a barracks. I was baptised in jet fuel, weaned on SOS, and you can believe I got high on the sound and smell of afterburners. I learned who the phoney brass were early on, when my dad took me to parades and his superiors would come around and ignore me. I am not to be ignored!!!
Now I have Patraeus at my mercy. I alone know his weaknesses. Military prowess extends to the PX, and the Commissary, and the bowling alley, and the base gym. I saw everything. I know everything. I know what a total schmuck Patraeus was, is and forever will be. If Holly doesn’t divorce him after the holidays, then she’s nutz too..
Broadwell: A woman’s scorn? or Frankenscorn????
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
7:51 am
at least we do not have our hand out waiting for King Obozo to pat us on the head and redistribute OUR $
Please, do go right on falsely accusing the people who voted for the other guy as moochers.
That worked so well for you last time.
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
7:52 am
Please answer this. Are Obama’s recent tears over gratitude or remorse? It appears that his final campaign speeches about “trust” were referring to his own behavior. If you were stationed in Benghazi and you hit the distress button expecting immediate support, would you settle for an unmanned, unarmed camera drone to linger overhead? There are humorous accounts of two factual conflicting stories in regards to the President’s actions immediately following the deaths of the Americans in Libya on 9/11 and both are equally disturbing. The President either went to bed and finished watching the massacre commercial-free on his Tivo drive the next morning, or he boarded Air Force One to see one of his favorite rock bands perform at a campaign rally in Las Vegas. Obama supports the use of drones — roughly 200 million of you.
Skip
November 13th, 2012
7:52 am
Other than losing the election the cons didn’t skip a beat.
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
7:53 am
AU Liberal…do NOT watch FOX, is a shame seeing this country go to hell with this moronic President, he could care less about the Economy or our standing in the world, he wants you dependent on his govt…This Benghazi disaster is at his feet.
Hope they make Gen Petreaus testify, how convienent he resigns prior to the hearings, hmmmmm
Lord Help Us
November 13th, 2012
7:54 am
Ms. Kelley was ‘an unpaid social liaison.’
Is that another word for ‘madam?’
AU Liberal in ATL
November 13th, 2012
7:54 am
Using words like “obozo” is juvenile and it totally depletes any shred of credibility you may have otherwise had. It’s not funny, it’s not clever. It’s silly and childish. You got one thing right though, stupid is….
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
7:54 am
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx
1. Click on the pic of Billy-Jeff
2. Check where his approvals were at the time (like, oh, Dec. 19-20) the geniuses in the lame-duck House thought it was a good idea to proceed with impeachment, after getting dope-slapped in the mid-terms.
(just in case someone forgot.)
Georgia
November 13th, 2012
7:55 am
and now it is painfully obvious that Romney would have won the election had this affair come to light. It’s so bad, that the stink would have covered anything Blue. It suggests an adminstration so out of touch and out of control, that no voter could trust Obama. Benghazi was bad enough, and a damn near thing. But this? No, we’d have a Republican Juggernaut in Power. I almost feel sorry for Iran if this story had broke.
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
7:56 am
Stands for decibles….American and Country first, you and your beloved President put those what, third , fourth ??…SEmper Fidelis Ahole !
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
7:58 am
AU Liberal…I love my country…do us a favor….and LEAVE
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
8:01 am
and AU Liberal…just for you..Obozo ! Obozo !…you think his mentor the Rev Wright ( you know, of GD America fame) might be saying the same ?
independent thinker
November 13th, 2012
8:01 am
Paula Broadwell was the female version of Dan Senor – writing glory pieces about one of Bush’s top generals as part of Mission Accomplished strategy. Probably she and Petreaus would have had top jobs like Senor if Romney got elected. After all Rush has not called her a slut -why is that? No stains on her dress?
Maybe she should not have changed the biography’s title from Dangerous Encounters to All In.
I hear she and Petreaus were distracted on the night of the Benghazi attack and Obama was covering for them according to Dick Morris.
JKL2
November 13th, 2012
8:01 am
Clinton proved sex scandals only matter if you have an (R) behind your name.
Make sure not to let any facts get in the way of your witch hunt. It’s the seriousness of the charge that counts.
Jm
November 13th, 2012
8:01 am
Seriously?!
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:02 am
AU Liberal…do NOT watch FOX
I guess they use too many big words.
Rick Patel
November 13th, 2012
8:03 am
Fashionable femme-fatale Jill Kelley fascinates FBI agents and turns top generals into horny, fawning frat-boys. She really rocks!
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:04 am
All we are missing now is Scout to come here with his daily “Have I mentioned how insanely jealous I am of Bill Clinton?”
A nation turns its lonely eyes to you. woo woo woo.
Bill
November 13th, 2012
8:06 am
Enter your comments here
JamVet
November 13th, 2012
8:07 am
Max, as long as you Republicans continue to be trickle-down devotees and soft-on-crime bankster coddlers, the American plutocracy will continue to thrive.
LONG LIVE THE 1%!!
ALL HAIL THE 1%!!
(And like Mr. Romney, long may these great American patriots hide their money overseas…)
Bill Clinton
November 13th, 2012
8:08 am
Heck if this Kelley chick called me during the campaign, I would have investigated and gotten to the bottom of all this. I wonder if she liked cigars.
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
8:08 am
Stands for Decibels…A true American is not currently President, does that not bother you ? He just does not care…oops except for ObozoCare, he wants to tax the “rich” and give to the 47% , oops more like 51.6%…I have given to much and worked to hard for that crap, oops, I guess I did not build my businesses and provide jobs, was not me, was the Govt, WTF…Benghazi you must be kidding, if they actually watched an American Ambassador and others get killed while help was an hour away…just unacceptable
Jm
November 13th, 2012
8:09 am
It’s a ruthless world out there
“Later, the agent became convinced — incorrectly, the official said — that the case had stalled. Because of his “worldview,” as the official put it, he suspected a politically motivated cover-up to protect President Obama. The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the agent’s concerns.
The official said the agent’s self-described “whistle-blowing” was “a little embarrassing” but had no effect on the investigation.”
It’s entirely possible that his conversation with Cantor either finally precipitated this whole thing, or seriously accelerated it.
And that’s supported by the abrupt nature in which this has played out, without even the senate intelligence committee being updated in advance.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist. But if you think the world is 100% chance, you’re a fool.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 13th, 2012
8:11 am
Georgia
November 13th, 2012
7:55 am
and now it is painfully obvious that Romney would have won the election had this affair come to light. It’s so bad, that the stink would have covered anything Blue. It suggests an adminstration so out of touch and out of control, that no voter could trust Obama. Benghazi was bad enough, and a damn near thing. But this? No, we’d have a Republican Juggernaut in Power. I almost feel sorry for Iran if this story had broke.
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Then why didn’t Dave Reichert or Eric Cantor use it?
Seriously dude….
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:11 am
Please answer this. Are Obama’s recent tears over gratitude or remorse?
Why, that’d be gratitude.
I realize it must be difficult sussing out ordinary human behavior, after supporting Chuckles The Robot all those months.
Lord Help Us
November 13th, 2012
8:11 am
‘A true American is not currently President,’
Would love to hear your definition of a ‘true American…’
Skip
November 13th, 2012
8:15 am
I have to give the cons their due, they are entertaining. I’m so glad they didn’t go away after the beat down. Please fellow libs, welcome them with open arms. Cons= cartoons for adults.
Freud
November 13th, 2012
8:16 am
Zee powerful, you see, cannot often resist zee trappings and temptations of dis power.
No matter zee profession.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 13th, 2012
8:17 am
I am surprised that Recon and our other rush-to-judgment cons omitted their demands to know what was discussed at the secret moon base between the generals and the President, what role did the flying submarine have to play, and why was the transformer construction program stopped? What role did the GI Joes play? And don’t we all know that this is a coverup because Obama sank Putin’s battleship?
Mick
November 13th, 2012
8:20 am
Wow, patreaus infidelity is obama’s fault? That’s a stretch even for lowly con standards…
Freud
November 13th, 2012
8:23 am
Mick 8:20
Your ego, interacting with the ego of your manage, vill make you do strange things…..
indigo
November 13th, 2012
8:24 am
Women are attracted to handsome powerful men. And, if you are also tall, that’s just icing on the cake. So, this behavior by the generals and the attractive younger women comes as no suprise whatsoever.
If you are a man but not tall or handsome or powerful, don’t expect to ever get very attractive women. The best men get the best women. That’s just nature and it’s not going to change.
However, there is one hope for average men. You see, there is one thing that attracts women more than height, looks and power. What could it be, you ask? Why sir, it’s MONEY. So, if you want to get those best women and the fickle finger of fate has shortchanged you, then get rich.
MONEY TALKS!! It always has and it always will.
A’int nature just the greatest!!!!!!!!!!
Whatever
November 13th, 2012
8:24 am
Jay,
Not to change subjects but has there been any news on the investigation of voter fraud in Florida? I heard there were several districts with 100%+ participation with one at 158%.
Just curious how that is shaping up and how does a state handle that? You can’t have an honest election when the ballot box is being stuffed. How do they know which votes are invalid now?
Lord Help Us
November 13th, 2012
8:25 am
‘Wow, patreaus infidelity is obama’s fault? That’s a stretch even for lowly con standards…’
Now when you are already convinced that Obama is an America-hating Socialist Muslim…this is all a massive coverup masterfully planned and executed in the wake of the attack on the Benghazi consulate to insulate the President. We CAN’T let them get away with this!!!!
As I said before, this ’scandal’ is quite capable of keeping the cons in zulu land through 2016…if they are dumb enough to let their ‘media’ continue its brainwashing…
Lord Help Us
November 13th, 2012
8:26 am
‘I heard there were several districts with 100%+ participation with one at 158%.’
I heard that Ms. Broadwell AND Ms. Kelley will be showering with me this evening…
skipper
November 13th, 2012
8:27 am
As previously stated……I saw pics of P’s wife, and good Lord she could “hain’t” an eight-story hotel by herself! She is probably 5′1 and field-dresses at 250! No frickin’ wonder he strayed…..make an effort! Hey….it happens; look at JFK, and he was married to a beauty!
Brosephus™
November 13th, 2012
8:29 am
Everybody’s human. Everybody makes mistakes. Wearing a uniform or a badge doesn’t endow a person with some kind of immunity to temptation or bad judgment.
No it does not. The training to get that uniform or badge includes training on how to curtail the urge to give in to temptation and/or make bad judgement decisions. However, as the old saying goes, “to err is human”.
Whirled Peas
November 13th, 2012
8:29 am
Hey, under the Clinton administration these guys would have been protected. All they would have to do is look sincerely at the camera, wag a finger and state “I did not have sex with that woman.”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 13th, 2012
8:30 am
skipper, really? How immature. Be a grown up and leave his wife out of it. What next? Attacking kids?
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:33 am
No frickin’ wonder he strayed…..make an effort!
skipper? from the wiki:
Two months after graduation Petraeus married Holly Knowlton, a daughter of Army General William A. Knowlton, who was superintendent of West Point at the time.[23] Holly, who is multi-lingual, was a National Merit Scholar in high school, and graduated summa cum laude from Dickinson College. They have a daughter and son, Anne and Stephen. Petraeus administered the oath of office at his son’s 2009 commissioning into the Army after his son’s graduation from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.[24][25] His son went on to serve in Afghanistan as a member of Alpha Company, 3rd Platoon, 1st Battalion, 503rd Infantry Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team.[26]
Petraeus’ official domicile in the United States is a rustic property in the small community of Springfield, New Hampshire, which his wife inherited from her family.[27] Registered to vote in that state as a Republican, Petraeus once told a friend that he was a Rockefeller Republican.[28]
So I guess what I’m saying to you Skipper, is this: Go f-ck yourself.
Whatever
November 13th, 2012
8:33 am
Lord Help Us,
I’m not trying to be funny or political. Just curious if all the news about this is real or not. Does anyone know if it’s a real story or just being made up?
Lord Help Us
November 13th, 2012
8:35 am
‘Does anyone know if it’s a real story or just being made up?’
Why don’t YOU find out and then let us know…otherwise, it just looks like more poo flinging and that hasn’t worked…
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
8:37 am
Does anyone know if it’s a real story or just being made up?
If you’re incapable of using the internet to find decent, reliable information then what anyone else says is irrelevant. Your brain has no filter and will take in any junk floating downstream.
Whatever
November 13th, 2012
8:37 am
Lord Help Us,
I’m trying to find out. That’s why I’m asking a group with a large mix of left/right. I assume someone would know if it’s valid or not. If you don’t know that’s ok. I was hoping someone would.
I’m not flinging poo at or for anyone.
I can see why our political discourse is hurting so badly. If this is the kind of response one can expect from their community then their community is screwed from both sides.
skipper
November 13th, 2012
8:37 am
@stands for decibels;
I certainly earned that….for real. She still let herself go, though! And what about JFK, FDR, and the MANY others who let that foot slip….and some (definitely not all, but some) were married to beauties!
Welcome to the Occupation
November 13th, 2012
8:38 am
I guess if you create a culture in which generals are treated as rock stars, they eventually begin to act like, well, rock stars. With groupies.
Bingo. So true.
Whatever
November 13th, 2012
8:39 am
Aquagirl,
I’m just not as superior as you are. That’s why I was hoping someone of your stature could shed some light on the issue.
I don’t believe or disbelieve it at the moment. Just heard about it and wondered if it was a junk story or if it was valid. I assumed some on here would know.
Tom Middleton
November 13th, 2012
8:39 am
I was reading yesterday where both Generals Eisenhower and Patton had mistresses during WWII. Wonder where we’d be right now if we’d made them resign, better off? I very, very, very seriously doubt it! Just sayin’…
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
8:39 am
Lord Help Us…uhhh, born in this country, proud of their country, not ashamed of their country ( no apology tour), knows Government is NOT the solution…IMPEACH HIM
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:40 am
I certainly earned that….for real.
Acknowledged. Earlier suggestion officially withdrawn. that said…
She still let herself go, though!
You know this how?
Step one: don’t assume sh-t.
Step two: always remember step one.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 13th, 2012
8:41 am
Pretty amazing how this unfortunate, yet bountiful story for many (including People Mag and the like), is twisted into a partisan issue by this crew.
How this could be interpreted as “Obama’s fault”, an issue involving Cantor or another of the borish attacks on the archenemy Fox news..you do realize that news outlets are like small kids, they can’t tell the difference between good and bad attention …both work..
Anyhow, if I were a character in this act, I take the “conduit” part..
TaxPayer
November 13th, 2012
8:41 am
Any con-spirator worth his weight in birther rants knows this whole thing is but a distraction designed to divert attention away from Agenda 21. It’s true. Honest. Really. No kidding. This one’s for real.
We Are Laughing at You
November 13th, 2012
8:41 am
You Republican losers just don’t get it.
-Obama was born in Kenya- Trump told us so.
- Obama is covering up “something” in Benghazi- Fox told us so.
- Obama is for “class warfare” – because he wants billionaires to pay 3% more tax.
- Women can’t get pregnant by rape- Akins told us so.
- Women don’t die in childbirth – yet thousands still do.
In the past 24 years Democrats have won 4 of the last 6 elections and America has elected that “black, Kenyan socialist” twice.
Shouldn’t you right wing losers get a grip and stop listening to the conservative media complex that makes millions by “playing you”.
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
8:42 am
’m trying to find out. That’s why I’m asking a group with a large mix of left/right. I assume someone would know if it’s valid or not.
You’re asking a supposed group of strangers on the internet for confirmation? Sure you are.
What is with cons and their gross behavior? If you gotta do this stuff, go to your room and shut the door.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 13th, 2012
8:42 am
I believe that every military man has had an “Angel” come into his life when she was most needed. A woman who saw the hurt, anger and anguish in a man coming out of combat, and
with no strings attached, took that man in her arms and comforted him. I don’t know if that was the case with Paula Broadwell, but I will say this, God bless the Angels.
independent thinker
November 13th, 2012
8:42 am
Poor Eric Cantor- his boy Romney is getting his butt kicked by Bill Clinton and the cons can’t even manage to get a good sex scandal going before the election and blame it on Obama- how ironic is it fellow dems Ole Bill must be laughing to death.
Lord Help Us
November 13th, 2012
8:43 am
‘uhhh, born in this country, proud of their country, not ashamed of their country’
YOU are part of the GOP’s problem. Thanks for helping to get Obama reelected. Keep on with the stoopid and guess what will happen in 2016?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 13th, 2012
8:44 am
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
8:39 am
Give it a rest.
clem
November 13th, 2012
8:44 am
ahnald, take your tripe elsewhere
Bill Clinton
November 13th, 2012
8:46 am
‘inappropriate touching beneath the dining room table” – Heck I used to do that at state dinners all the time. Its called diplomacy.
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:46 am
I was reading yesterday where both Generals Eisenhower and Patton had mistresses during WWII.
I was reading yesterday that the gender paradigm among America’s professional class was somewhat different 70 years ago.
Whatever
November 13th, 2012
8:47 am
Aquagirl,
I know I don’t post here much and obviously when I do you don’t keep track of my slant on things but I’m not a con. I’m not a liberal. I’m a rare moderate who didn’t vote for Obama or Romney.
My assumption, even though you are strangers, is that you are interested in political issues and therefore might be able to at least point me to legitimate story on the issue.
I apologize for bothering you with it.
Again, I say it’s a sad testament to our society that this is the response someone gets when asking a question like this. We can’t even have civil discourse about it. I’m not even pushing a viewpoint. I’m just trying to find out if any of the stories are valid so I can develop a viewpoint.
alex
November 13th, 2012
8:49 am
@we are ..speaking of play you, see nyt article on how the obama campaign ingeniously used social behavior (or whatever) experts for the campaign, brilliant -no doubt, creepy, mabye… we all get played and I “played ” with my son last night and had a great time, here’s to playing…..
Lynnie Gal
November 13th, 2012
8:50 am
Next: Broadwell changes the title of her biography about Petraeus to…”The General’s Genitals”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 13th, 2012
8:50 am
But…but….but… y’all are missing the point. Somehow this must be blamed on a failure of Obama and a reason, now that he has been reelected, to impeach him. These are the same people who want states to succeed from the US and who sign petitions on behalf of Georgia without even asking Georgians if they want succeed.
indigo
November 13th, 2012
8:50 am
stands for decibels
In your ideal schoolboy Christian Academy world, married men and women are always faithful. Married people are always, in your dream world, pillars of fidelity.
Unfortunately, the real world is what we really live in. In this world, some married men and women are just no good and won’t hesitate to hop in bed with any atractive partner they can find.
Someday, when you are a grown man, the harsh, bitter reality of living in the world will stare you in the face and make it impossible to rationalize it away with wishful religious thinking.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 13th, 2012
8:51 am
Whatever
You big silly! Here’s how it works…you read the column and then read the comments…then you pick one you have objections to and go immediately to google to find an alternative view of the issue at hand…you post it with comments..then those who disagree with your disagreement will google and find information counter to your information and question your source and likely call you names in an effort to get you to come around to their way of thinking..the end of the discussion is characterized by when you get labeled gullible CON or lightheaded LIB..whatever the case may be..
This is how it works…its absurd but it gets to be somewhat addictive…and I for one have learned a lot from dancing on issues..sometimes you are the bug, and sometimes you are the windshield..
Recon 0311 2533
November 13th, 2012
8:52 am
Some on here are either incredibly naive or so far politically brainwashed that can’t or won’t recognize serious issues of coverups or incompetence within our federal government that require answers. Indeed pathetic people.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
8:52 am
I’m not even pushing a viewpoint.
Yeah, you are.
I’m just trying to find out if any of the stories are valid so I can develop a viewpoint.
No, you aren’t.
We Are Laughing at You
November 13th, 2012
8:53 am
Ahnald… No please keep it up. watch Fox and Limbaugh and spread your little conspiracy theories.
It’s entertaining and ensures the GOP will only attract low IQ voters.
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:53 am
In your ideal schoolboy Christian Academy world, married men and women are always faithful. Married people are always, in your dream world, pillars of fidelity.
Indigo, who, pray tell, are you talking to?
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
8:53 am
I say it’s a sad testament to our society that this is the response someone gets when asking a question like this.
Oh, so sorry….Jay’s fainting couch is not big enough to accommodate trolls. Would you like a blankie for your swooning fit?
Rush Limbaugh
November 13th, 2012
8:54 am
Dick Morris just clued me in that Obama was pimping these women to the generals and that Kelley and Broadwell got in a cat fight over whose john Petreaus was. Obama was distracted by that Benghazi matter and could not get these women under control.
skipper
November 13th, 2012
8:54 am
stands for decibels……..please expound on the “paradigm” comment…..
Lord Help Us
November 13th, 2012
8:54 am
‘Some on here are either incredibly naive or so far politically brainwashed that can’t or won’t recognize serious issues…’
Someone mistook his mirror for a computer screen this am…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
INDIGO
I agree with your assessment excepting the comment that people who make such mistakes are not good…many factors involved, unhappiness, emotional instability, disease of addiction/substances, insecurities etcetera that fuel some of these poor choices…
I don’t think these are bad people simply for this particular action, they may very well be but sometimes the poor choices that define a bad person are not within control…
Just my opinion, I could be wrong..
Greg
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
2 generals, one housewife, one biographer, and two doctors embroiled in a lurid sex scandal. Yeah, I would watch this Sundays at 10 on ABC.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
Recon plays the Ftroop superiority card….. You posters are just too stupid and pathetic to know how great the Recon is at knowing how much incompetence there is.
Peter
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
These are the guys Republican’s want to give all that tax payers money too ?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 13th, 2012
8:56 am
Well, none of this would of happened if that Jezabel hadn’t of been rubbing the general’s knee under the table. It’s women that lead men off the Path of Righteousness. You got one that never stopped till the head of the CIA took her up on her brazen behavior. You got one that can’t even set at a table without putting her hands on a guy. And worse, she made a FBI agent, of all things, send her pictures of him bare-chested. And you got one Jezabel setting off the whole thing by sending the other Jezabel a e-mail telling her to keep her hands off of her target.
I swear, this stuff won’t stop till we learn the Pope has about 100 welfare babys by a dozen or so nuns.
Whatever
November 13th, 2012
8:57 am
Kamchak,
What viewpoint am I pushing? I have no idea.
You guys are as paranoid as the cons……and that’s saying something.
I’m out. This is too crazy.
jconservative
November 13th, 2012
8:57 am
Why did Eric Cantor sit on the story 7 days before the presidential election?
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:57 am
skipper @ 8.54, I think it should be painfully obvious that the barely-above-chattle role afforded women in the WWII era meant that such things as discreet affairs were tolerated in a manner quite differently than they are today.
There were unwritten rules for how powerful men were supposed to behave, and I assume Gen.s Ike and Patton played by them.
fair and balanced
November 13th, 2012
8:57 am
I hear Anne Coulter is pissed -none of the generals were interested in her and she is blaming Obama.
Lord Help Us
November 13th, 2012
8:58 am
‘Some on here are either incredibly naive or so far politically brainwashed that can’t or won’t recognize serious issues ‘
I do love reading that from someone that has latched onto every crazy conspiracy theory that the right-wing entertainment complex has ever ginned up…if that ain’t irony, I don’t know what is…
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:58 am
and skipper, for the record, I apologize for blowing up at you earlier. A simple “some respect for the man’s wife and family, sir” from me would’ve sufficed.
/drive-by
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 13th, 2012
8:59 am
We Are Laughing at You
November 13th, 2012
8:53 am
Surely you have a better game than referring to CONS as ignorant and of low mental capabilities…low IQ’s? Like there is any shortage of that on both sides? The gop has not cornered the market on stupid…
Banderson
November 13th, 2012
8:59 am
I was wondering how Ms. Kelly got her own FBI agent to look into anonymous threatening emails when the rest of us can’t get anything done about the annoying, and illegal contacts from Rachel from Cardservices or the robo call telling us we’ve just “won” a free security system. Now I know. You have to hook up with an FBI agent. Now I just have to find an FBI agent attracted to an old white man.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
8:59 am
What viewpoint am I pushing? I have no idea.
Let’s try it like this:
Whatever, is it true that you have quit beating your wife?
I don’t have an agenda here, I’m just trying to get an answer to a serious question.
Peter
November 13th, 2012
8:59 am
” Cost Plus Contracts ” were a great idea……..
I guess after all that free cash to the Military complex, the “Religious Right ” believed they could have anything they wanted. providing they went to church, and confessed their sins every week to a priest who was keeping their secret !
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
9:01 am
Now I just have to find an FBI agent attracted to an old white man
It helps to have a big…..wallet.
Paul
November 13th, 2012
9:03 am
Serious lack of leadership, judgment and professionalism in the military and the FBI. I do have to give credit where credit is due – to Cantor. Now for the conspiracy theories about how he was in league with the Obama campaign to keep quiet so he’d get his way on… something… they’ll think of something.
It’s not just how the case was opened that is questionable. The FBI’s actions sounded like they were Special Prosecutors, going where ever the fishing line took them. They knew early on there was no security compromise with Gen Petraeus, yet the still continued digging. Why? What was the basis for the search warrant? Was there a decision to not inform superiors and the Intel Committees, or are the FBI supervisors too ignorant to know their own procedures?
Army head of Africa Command was just relieved and punished. Another Army general’s undergoing an Article 32 hearing. Another one’s in the same fix. Army has a serious problem in how they identify and bring up the chain their generals. They’re in for a shakeup. Might be good to pull an Eisenhower – did down the ranks, get some men and women who are not all ‘hoo-ah’ and give them some stars.
But still… you’ve got a buddy in the FBI so their cybercrimes unit will go after anyone you say made you feel uncomfortable? Yeah, we have a problem.
Banderson
November 13th, 2012
9:04 am
It helps to have a big…..wallet.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
my wallet is big – unfortunately, more in the way of George Castanza’s (old man reference)
Brosephus™
November 13th, 2012
9:05 am
Why did Eric Cantor sit on the story 7 days before the presidential election?
He’s probably got a knee or two that he’s been rubbing on himself. The last thing you do when you’re having an affair is attempt to out someone else who’s having one. Remember Bob Livingston??? Newt Gingrich??? There is precedence there for Cantor to be quiet.
too little time
November 13th, 2012
9:05 am
It is a matter between the generals, their families and God.
to which Aquagirl replied:
Not as long as they have security clearances.
Bingo. It is not sufficient to allow stuff like this to happen “as long as security hasn’t been breached”. Security is a pro-active effort. It doesn’t help to close the barn door AFTER the cows are out. Security is preventing an action before it happens. Intelligence agencies have LONG used women and sex to entrap and blackmail military, politicians, etc. It is NOT a private matter between the director of the CIA and his mistresses.
indigo
November 13th, 2012
9:06 am
Stevie Ray – 8:55
That is a good point. Sometimes, good people do bad things. And, sometimes, they’re just no good to start with. And, oftentimes, it’s hard to know which is which.
godless heathen
November 13th, 2012
9:06 am
Using words like “obozo” is juvenile and it totally depletes any shred of credibility you may have otherwise had. It’s not funny, it’s not clever. It’s silly and childish.
Is “Mittens” a word like “obozo”?
Tom Middleton
November 13th, 2012
9:07 am
Skipper
I think he’s trying to say, Skipper, that war should be about the rules of romantic propriety and gotcha journalism, not by whether or not we win the damn war. Be patient, Skipper, he doesn’t understand.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:08 am
Is “Mittens” a word like “obozo”?
Is the first lady’s weight like “Mittens”?
indigo
November 13th, 2012
9:08 am
stands – 8:53
I’m talking to YOU, schoolboy.
skipper
November 13th, 2012
9:09 am
@stands for decibels….
10-4. I suppose my neanderthalic side came out. Sometimes, and I’m actually trying to be truthful, when the wife appears (and she may not have, but it DOES APPEAR) to have just “plumb” let herself go and an attractive and in-shape beauty comes along, this kinda stuff will happen. I am not shooting at Mrs. P, and I’m sure at one time she may have looked ok, but she has apparantly gone through “reverse metamorphosis.” These are hard words and terrible thoughts, I know, but unfortunately this stuff can happen. I am not questioning character of anything else…….I promise!
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
9:11 am
So when Obozo has his picture put on all the food stamps he is doling out that will be a shining moment for those who voted for him…y’all set the bar high
Moderate Line
November 13th, 2012
9:11 am
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
6:22 am
20,000 to 30,000 pages of e-mails? When in the hell was this guy actually doing his job?
+++++
Excellent point.
Petraeus and Allen’s next stop; working for a defense contractor? – Ms Sparky
November 13th, 2012
9:13 am
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Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 13th, 2012
9:13 am
BRO
Any remarks suggesting this is Obama’s fault are of course foolhearted…beyond that, could it be that Cantor actually acted in accordance with security policy? Let’s not give him any credit for possibly doing the right (no pun intended) thing…??
I think the last time I saw a poll, a sizable amount…I’ve seen up to 50% or more of men cheat…lack of self control may actually be ingrained in our genes…we are after all seed spreaders..
Sad state of affairs..I imagine if we outed all elected officials who cheat, the government would shut down..
too little time
November 13th, 2012
9:14 am
I was reading yesterday where both Generals Eisenhower and Patton had mistresses during WWII.
In WWII, we did not have digital cameras the size of bugs, the internet, government-proof encryption, etc. We didn’t have flash drives that could store 128GB, or the ability to spread computer viruses via an inside connection. Patten didn’t have to worry about drone strikes on his tank because one of his men sent an email. It was a different world.
Brosephus™
November 13th, 2012
9:16 am
Stevie Ray
It’s plausible that Cantor did the right thing. Given his partisaned past, I don’t buy that idea. Forgive me for being a skeptic. After all, you’ve read Woodruff’s book, and Cantor is no angel. I don’t trust ANY politician. If given the chance, there are probably very few who wouldn’t take the opportunity to try out something/someone new.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:16 am
I think the last time I saw a poll, a sizable amount…I’ve seen up to 50% or more of people say that I will win an Oscar for best director next year.
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
9:17 am
Vote now for next summer’s Benghazi bumper sticker using the Obama symbol as the “O”:
a) COWARD
b) TREASON
c) COVERUP
Karl Rove
November 13th, 2012
9:18 am
If this sex scandal came up before the election we could have blamed Bill Clinton and maybe Obama. If Obama hadn’t gotten to the FBI, Fox and I could have convinced everyone this tramp was an Obama plant to keep Petreaus from telling the truth on Benghazi. Probably an old flame of Clinton’s. Heck he was notorious for coppin a feel under the tableThis would have swung the votes our way and distracted everyone enough for me to get our boys to rig a few states.
alex
November 13th, 2012
9:18 am
@whatever, correct, sounds like this blog could have used your modesty, as to the ballot stuffing or whatever, I have read nothing. Kamchak reads minds and Indigo is a jilted lover and SOMEBODY still uses the term”paradigm” i was hoping we could “shift” from that…
as for Patraeus and the minions,you can’t right this stuff:truth is stranger than fiction..Look there’s a banana….. Whatever the “truth” is I suspect it is as simple a s an arrogant scmuck(read:general), meets alluring, lonely overachiever (read :broadwell),he returns toa 15 year old mentality and then realizes his mistakes, takes his adeu and what do we have:a jilted lover”..fascinating, so novel….Oprah awaits her…
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
9:21 am
when the wife appears (and she may not have, but it DOES APPEAR) to have just “plumb” let herself go and an attractive and in-shape beauty comes along, this kinda stuff will happen.
This wasn’t a drunken one-time encounter where he lost control of the little head for a couple of hours. It happens because men think they’re entitled and can get away with it, not because they just OMG can’t control the trouser trout.
If you’re gonna note Holly Petraeus “let herself go” (presumably with multiple boxes of twinkies) then it’s worth noting her husband wasn’t exactly the paragon of self-control either.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:21 am
….Oprah awaits her…
Oprah, Fox and Friends… whatevs.
Grasshopper
November 13th, 2012
9:22 am
“If you’re incapable of using the internet to find decent, reliable information then what anyone else says is irrelevant. Your brain has no filter and will take in any junk floating downstream.”
Cue mark.
And enter Bookman’s blog.
godless heathen
November 13th, 2012
9:23 am
Whatever,
Don’t come here seeking information. But if you seek ridicule from shrill partisans who do nothing all day but display hypocrisy and attempt to make the same juvenile insults all day, this is the place.
Tom
November 13th, 2012
9:24 am
Any of these guys get a sloppy in the Oval Office?
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 13th, 2012
9:24 am
I love how after the election we got all new ass hats to replace the old ass hats. Any takers as to who Stewart Blewit used to be?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:27 am
Any takers as to who Stewart Blewit used to be?
I have an idea, but it’s still a little early to make that call.
Tom Middleton
November 13th, 2012
9:27 am
Too little time
It’s a different world for sure, but many of our generals are the same. Apparently with the great ones, we just need to cut them some slack and say thanks.
I mean, it’s our failure of civilization that we had (have) the war in the first place, and we think they’re the ones who should be perfect? Time to get busy, my friend, for that’s your job not theirs!
Brosephus™
November 13th, 2012
9:27 am
Sometimes, and I’m actually trying to be truthful, when the wife appears (and she may not have, but it DOES APPEAR) to have just “plumb” let herself go and an attractive and in-shape beauty comes along, this kinda stuff will happen.
http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/top-10-reasons-why-men-cheat-531881.html
There are many places that have done polls with men who have cheated. I can’t personally recall any poll that claimed the wife’s looks as a reason for them to step outside the relationship. I’m not saying that is not a reason for someone. I just have not personally seen that reason expressed by anybody.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 13th, 2012
9:28 am
Any men go after the 20-somethings anymore? I mean, neither one of these women are a raving beauty and they’re just a little short of drawing Social Security.
I guess the next thing we hear will be the FBI busting into houses and collecting stained housecoats and granny bloomers.
Brosephus™
November 13th, 2012
9:28 am
Any takers as to who Stewart Blewit used to be?
Who cares?!!? Anybody who’s interested in any substantial conversation, whether partisaned or not, will keep the same name and not try to hide who they are.
blackbird13
November 13th, 2012
9:29 am
Maybe all this will at least temper some of the reflexive worship of all things military in this country.
Cosby
November 13th, 2012
9:29 am
Same goes for politicians / elected officials. shame the news media has become the likes of the View and David letterman. wonder how many more scandles will come out of The current administration before the citizens of the USA wake up…what a sad culture we have become in 4 years.
MANGLER
November 13th, 2012
9:31 am
At least these women are attractive. I mean, there is that. No blue dresses or cigars (yet).
kayaker 71
November 13th, 2012
9:31 am
Aquagirl, 9:21,
“Control the trouser trout”?…… Last time I looked, it takes two to tango. Female infidelity has reached nearly the level of male infidelity over the past several years. Seems that ladies have a hankering for that trouser trout, especially if it belongs to someone else than their husband.
Noneya
November 13th, 2012
9:31 am
Let’s get something straight. This is not indicative of soldiers. Most one stars and higher cease being soldiers somewhere and become politicians. They’d throw their mother under a bus for another promotion or accolade. That said, anyone who believes what the MSM, that’s main stream media for you noobs at political misdealings, has to say about anything since their flip in the 70s to being the blatant spin doctors for the libtards of both parties are fools.
Banderson
November 13th, 2012
9:32 am
what a sad culture we have become in 4 years.
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Calista Gingrich agrees with you.
H. E. Pennypacker
November 13th, 2012
9:33 am
Welcome back Kayaker 320!!!!
If I missed you at an earlier posting, I apologize.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 13th, 2012
9:35 am
“Vote now for next summer’s Benghazi bumper sticker using the Obama symbol as the “O”:”
I vote for NOTHING-BURGER
http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2012/11/12/love-in-the-house-of-spy/
curious
November 13th, 2012
9:37 am
Can we get Andrea Sneiderman to weigh in on this ?
skipper
November 13th, 2012
9:39 am
Aquagirl,
You are right about him, too. He in fact may not be an Addonis, but even though it is tough language, and hopefully “stands for decibels” will understand, this is not an attack on his wife. The fact that somebody is butt-ugly is NOT an attack! Its just the truth. This gal gives Scout Willis a run for the money, quite an accomplishment, by the way.
kayaker 71
November 13th, 2012
9:39 am
Pennypacker, 9:33,
I have been in mourning for the last few days. I must admit, however, that this crow tastes a lot like chicken.
godless heathen
November 13th, 2012
9:40 am
Any men go after the 20-somethings anymore?
Remember the blue dress? Nothing to lose is not a safe street to go down.
Brosephus™
November 13th, 2012
9:40 am
not because they just OMG can’t control the trouser trout.
See, that right there is the problem. Trout will get you into trouble because people want to share their trout with everyone. What you need to do is get some of that Alabama Black Snake. When you’re packing ABS, people get greedy and want to keep it to themselves.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/…term=Alabama%20Black%20Snake
Martin the Calvinist
November 13th, 2012
9:41 am
Aquagirl, Clinton had just as high a clearance…didn’t cost him his job, this shouldn’t be a big deal either for these guys either…..just saying
Paul
November 13th, 2012
9:42 am
Do ya’ suppose if I had a buddy at the FBI and I said I was on this blog and some of the bloggers had bragged on how cybersavvy they were and their posts towards me were, I thought, threatening, do you think the FBI would be able to track down your IP, get into your email account, look for anything threatening, then if they saw something else that caught their eye they could look at that, and if that didn’t pan out they’d keep on going until they found paydirt?
I’m more concerned about that than I am with who a top-level bureaucrat is doing on the side.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:42 am
The fact that somebody is butt-ugly is NOT an attack! Its just the truth.
There’s your sign.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:43 am
Jindal SHEETS!
godless heathen
November 13th, 2012
9:44 am
What you need to do is get some of that Alabama Black Snake
Good name for a band.
hiram
November 13th, 2012
9:44 am
Ted Kaczynski may have been on to something.
Doggone/GA
November 13th, 2012
9:45 am
“The fact that somebody is butt-ugly is NOT an attack! Its just the truth”
No it isn’t. It’s an OPINION, not a fact
Paul
November 13th, 2012
9:46 am
godless
“Any men go after the 20-somethings anymore?”
Ever watch the new Two and A Half Men? Where Kutcher thought the now-grown daughter of his friend was making a play for him and found out the daughter wanted to set him up with her single mom? And Kutcher asked if there was a chance of anything between the two of them and the daughter retched and went ‘ewwwwwwww…..’
Older guys are masters at self-delusion.
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
9:49 am
Stewart Blewit used to be a Democrat. Then I hit intellectual puberty, stopped allowing frauds to control me like a puppet, and do what most Americans once did — work for a living! We’ve been scammed into another four years. Voting for Obama is like clicking on a bad link in an email and getting a virus on your hard drive. Benghazi will destroy the President’s “legacy”. Don’t worry, I’m sure there are political contributions remaining and enough money to convert all Obama’s 1,000 campaign offices into grievance workshops.
Jeff Burdick
November 13th, 2012
9:49 am
Coming soon to Bravo: “Real Mistresses of CentCom.” My goodness, this Petreaus sex scandal is getting stickier than a Pooh Bear caught with his hands in a honey pot. Fortunately the Obama Administration is moving quickly to name his successor, and the FluffingtonPost has the funny exclusive details: http://bit.ly/TCAE4b
Scooter
November 13th, 2012
9:54 am
BOHICA
H. E. Pennypacker
November 13th, 2012
9:56 am
Stewart,
Interesting personal story…..you talk about no longer being controlled by frauds and then launch into Benghazi.
Do you mind sharing a few links from where you have pieced together your elaborate theory on Benghazi so we can better understand from where you are coming?
Banderson
November 13th, 2012
10:01 am
The Washinton Post article says that Petraeus had no intention of resigning until it became clear that it couldn’t be kept a secret. If the FBI agent smitten with Kelly had not taken the info to Reichert, who took it to Eric Cantor, it would have stayed quiet and Petraeus would still be at the CIA. I think it would be impossible to run an agency like the CIA once all your employees knew that you had an affair with your biographer, and, even worse, you’d let it become public.
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
10:12 am
Pennypacker,
Umm, umm, hmmm, one second, bear with me…
My outrage allegedly comes from a YouTube video called “Ignorance of Americans.” But, please don’t share this with anyone until after the election. Or, I’ll blackmail you. Thanks.
Jack Hamer
November 13th, 2012
10:19 am
One thing is common among such scandles. Damn capitalism which forces everyone to work harder and harder to the peril of family life, both spouses working longer enough not to be able to meet each others. So! Both find someone other for company. Solution! Cool down don’t run after $$$$$$. Be happy with less of $$$$ and more of family life.
Does it sink through your upper story thick skull?
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 13th, 2012
10:24 am
You know, these generals were probably ROTC nerds in high school who could not get girls to talk to them. This is their revenge. “Look at me, I got 4 stars on my collar. Whatever happened to the jock you went to the prom with?”
too little time
November 13th, 2012
10:40 am
Older guys are masters at self-delusion.
You give too much credit to TV shows.
At 44, I went back to college to qualify for a masters program. I had to take some courses (A&P, biology, microbiology) that would be required to enter, as I had an EE/CS background. These courses were full of 18-to-28 year olds. I am not a pretty person, but I can tell you that there were no shortage of pretty young women willing to go out with me. I was not delusional. I made absolutely no effort to persue any of them. I did end up dating one women… 17 years my junior… and we ended up married (for seven years now) and have two kids.
Older men do not have to delude themselves. There are enough jobless, lazy, deadbeats, woman abusers, etc, etc such that any guy who works hard and is not too socially awkward can find women of all ages (older and younger).
Would a woman rather date an older/married guy who buys them a nice dinner and shows her a good time, or a jobless bum who smokes pot all day and is perfectly happy to live off HER income? I know, I know, the answer is NEITHER. But if those are the only two choices, the older/married guy looks better and better as the incessant stream of bums take their toll. It does not, as Aquagirl implied, take a thick wallet. Sometimes all it takes is gainful employment, and not depending on HER wallet.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 13th, 2012
11:23 am
Funny the book Paula Broadwell wrote is titled “All In”. Kinda writes its own joke.
Jeffrey
November 13th, 2012
12:32 pm
What is the name of that movie with clooney, France’s mcdourmont and John malkovich? This reminds me of that.
appleseed
November 13th, 2012
1:25 pm
Yeah I thought “Fall In” would have been better title for Broadwell book.
atler8
November 13th, 2012
1:43 pm
Where are Stewart, Ahnold & Recon? I want to ask if they have noticed that the major players at the heart of this scandal all appear to be republicans? Petraeus was thought to be in consideration for a while as the vice prez pick by Romney.
Oh…and then there’s that great pic of Broadwell & Rove together from back in June. Go look for it online if you don’t believe me. Rove even tweeeted about the pic.
Dan
November 13th, 2012
1:45 pm
Let me get this right under todays politically correct environment…adultery is a crime in the military, but gathering around the campfire and eating weenies is 100% okay?
blackbird13
November 13th, 2012
1:55 pm
” Petraeus was thought to be in consideration for a while as the vice prez pick by Romney.”
Just speculatin’, but maybe that’s why Cantor kept his mouth shut; he was afraid of bringing down one of the Republican “heroes.”
blackbird13
November 13th, 2012
1:57 pm
“Let me get this right under todays politically correct environment…adultery is a crime in the military, but gathering around the campfire and eating weenies is 100% okay?”
Yes, and now that you’ve got the update you can crawl back into your cave.
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
2:13 pm
It all comes down to YouTube. It’s funny how Denver whooped the President twice in one month. The first debate AND Broadwell’s interview where she announced we are holding hostages in a secret location in Benghazi. That’s the real YouTube video worth seeing, but it has been removed. Just like the top Republicans from our defense department. Perhaps they are not willing to take the heat for the President. I find it amusing that we’re told the affair was discovered in late summer, but late summer includes 10 days after the terrorist attack. Patraeus probably sipped the YouTube cover-up koolaid and then said, “Screw this. I’d rather take the heat for my affair.” You know which one will sell more of his books.
Nothing New
November 13th, 2012
2:15 pm
Spent 20 years in the military, retired over 20 years ago. At one time I assigned to a Battalion that had all female company commanders. The Battalion Commander had his own harem that he shared with the Deputy Commanding General of our higher organization. We even had a majority of the platoon leaders being female. You don’t think the male lieutenants in that battalion caught hell. Additionally, the Battalion Executive Officer’s girlfriend, mistress, worked in the battalion headquarters. I spent 3 years of living hell in that battalion.
Long / short of the story. The relationship Petraeus had is nothing new to the military. It just so happens that the news media place people like Petraeus on a pedestal so the fall is a lot higher. He got what he deserved, karma you know, what goes around comes around. I’m quite sure with Patraeus’ ego he screwed over quite a large number of soliers in he career. And, if you think this relationship began after he retired from the Army, I have a bridge in San Francisco for rent. Now it looks like Allen will get his too. What in the hell is a social liaison? New word for brothel employee may be. LMAO!!!
Me
November 13th, 2012
2:29 pm
If they were gay/lesbian, there would be no problem. They wouldn’t even be questioned.
blackbird13
November 13th, 2012
2:32 pm
Funny that Broadwell made that statement about the prisoners being held in Benghazi AFTER she’d admitted to the affair. Was this some kind of revenge against Petraeus, who’d ended the relationship and told Broadwell to knock off the harassing emails to his friend? I suspect it’s going to come out that somewhere along in the line in all this Petraeus lied under oath.
General Dwight D. Eisenhower
November 13th, 2012
2:56 pm
I am ashamed of my fellow officers lying & acting like Chicago politicians. Benghazi will be the downfall for this corrupt administration.
guy
November 13th, 2012
2:57 pm
Bill Clinton did it in the White House,there are gays and lesbians in the military,gays and lesbians(probably in congress and senate?) so don’t complain or point fingers or judge. At least the generals picked the opposite sex! WOW!
independent thinker
November 13th, 2012
6:04 pm
THE PLOT THICKENS- Benghazi-illicit sex- classified information- false news story about CIA and prisoners -Fox News and everyone involved is a staunch Republican. Can’t get much better!!. I guess the stink was too much for Eric Cantor due to some type of relationship with the jilted no. 2 lady:
“”"”"”"”"”"Paula Broadwell, the former military intelligence officer whose alleged affair with CIA Director David Petraeus culminated in the end of his career, had earlier made some startling, now-revealed claims about the agency’s role in the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi.
In an Oct. 26 speech at the University of Denver, she said that Libyan militants had attacked the post to retrieve some fellow fighters who’d been taken prisoner at the nearby CIA annex. She also seems to suggest that Petraeus himself knew about it, implying that he may have been her source. Here’s the relevant passage from the speech, transcribed in full here by Foreign Policy’s Blake Hounshell.
Now, I don’t know if a lot of you heard this, but the CIA annex had actually, um, had taken a couple of Libyan militia members prisoner and they think that the attack on the consulate was an effort to try to get these prisoners back. So that’s still being vetted.
The challenging thing for General Petraeus is that in his new position, he’s not allowed to communicate with the press. So he’s known all of this — they had correspondence with the CIA station chief in, in Libya. Within 24 hours they kind of knew what was happening.
The CIA is flatly denying this. “CIA adamant that Broadwell claims about agency holding prisoners at Benghazi are not true,” The Post’s Greg Miller tweeted. Fox News cites a single anonymous source saying that the CIA annex had prisoners at the time, and “multiple intelligence sources” as saying that the annex had at different times held prisoners. So why did she say it? I can only imagine three possible explanations, all of which should be taken with many grains of salt:”"”"”"”"”"”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/12/why-did-paula-broadwell-think-the-cia-had-taken-prisoners-in-benghazi/
Of course the cons and Faux News now have turned the whole thing around Karl Rove style and pointed the finger at Obama for a vst conspiracy- go ahead cons . This getting funnier all the time..
Stewart Blewit
November 14th, 2012
9:31 am
Operation Patraeus Distraction in not working, Mr. President. America requests an answer as to why you ordered the armed forces to “stand down” in Benghazi. America would like you to “stand up”, Commander in Chief. A desperate man, outnumbered 100 to 1, stood on a rooftop in Libya pointing a laser at mortar targets awaiting the drone overhead to return fire. Unfortunately, the Situation Room provided the victims air support armed with a camera only. If you accidentally sent the wrong type of drone — regardless of Patraeus and Broadwell being in the broom closet — you could have at least crashed the unmanned aircraft into the target our brave American provided you in the final moments of his life. Or, was that drone too expensive? The White House then pinned the event and deaths on a YouTube video which we now know was a lie. Filmmakers, stand your ground. To me, this hints that Freedom of Speech reform is on the second-term social agenda. Until now, media outlets have been afraid to publish anything but complimentary news about the White House. The YouTube fabrication cleverly pointed the tragedy back to American social issues, which he led in the polls and, therefore, portrayed to the American people that he is capable of handling the sensitive aftermath better than his opponent. Justifying a cover-up implies that he and his team thought the truth about Benghazi would ruin his chance for a second term and they were probably correct. Under these circumstances, I am happy to be classified as a “rightie,” because I feel we should do what is right. “Forward” was a great campaign slogan, but will “Stand Down” be the President’s legacy?