Another top general ensnared in Petraeus scandal
I guess if you create a culture in which generals are treated as rock stars, they eventually begin to act like, well, rock stars.
Complete with groupies.
Marine Gen. John R. Allen
As The Washington Post reports:
ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY AIRCRAFT — The FBI probe into the sex scandal that led to the resignation of CIA director David Petraeus has expanded to ensnare Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced early Tuesday.
According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of “potentially inappropriate” e-mails between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close friendship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall. Allen, a Marine, succeeded Petraeus as the top allied commander in Afghanistan in July 2011….
Jill Kelley
The latest development in the unfolding scandal has shaken President Obama’s national-security staff and upended his carefully chosen plans for his military and intelligence team in his second term.
It also further calls into question the personal behavior of two of the U.S. military’s highest-ranking and most respected figures, who apparently ignored concerns about the highly sensitive nature of their jobs as they embraced personal relationships with younger women who were not their wives.
It was unclear whether Allen could be subject to criminal prosecution. The senior defense official said the Pentagon was still reviewing the e-mails and declined to comment on the nature of the relationship between Allen and Kelley. “Gen. Allen disputes that he has engaged in any wrongdoing in this matter,” the official told the Associated Press.
Under the military’s Uniform Code of Military Justice, adultery is classified as a crime.
Apparently, one of the anonymous emails sent by Broadwell had accused Kelley of “inappropriately touching” Petraeus — or “Peaches,” as we now he is called by some — beneath a dining table. Unfortunately, these are just the latest and most high-profile scandals in a string of incidents involving senior military officials. And as the New York Times reports, the way this investigation has unfolded does not exactly inspire great confidence or respect for some of those entrusted with law enforcement in our country either:
“Ms. Kelley, a volunteer with wounded veterans and military families, brought her complaint (about Paula Broadwell) to a rank-and-file agent she knew from a previous encounter with the F.B.I. office, the official also said. That agent, who had previously pursued a friendship with Ms. Kelley and had earlier sent her shirtless photographs of himself, was “just a conduit” for the complaint, he said. He had no training in cybercrime, was not part of the cyber squad handling the case and was never assigned to the investigation.
But the agent, who was not identified, continued to “nose around” about the case, and eventually his superiors “told him to stay the hell away from it, and he was not invited to briefings,” the official said. The Wall Street Journal first reported on Monday night that the agent had been barred from the case.
Later, the agent became convinced — incorrectly, the official said — that the case had stalled. Because of his “worldview,” as the official put it, he suspected a politically motivated cover-up to protect President Obama. The agent alerted Eric Cantor, the House majority leader, who called the F.B.I. director, Robert S. Mueller III, on Oct. 31 to tell him of the agent’s concerns.
The official said the agent’s self-described “whistle-blowing” was “a little embarrassing” but had no effect on the investigation.
Everybody’s human. Everybody makes mistakes. Wearing a uniform or a badge doesn’t endow a person with some kind of immunity to temptation or bad judgment.
But still …
– Jay Bookman
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Whatever
November 13th, 2012
8:37 am
Lord Help Us,
I’m trying to find out. That’s why I’m asking a group with a large mix of left/right. I assume someone would know if it’s valid or not. If you don’t know that’s ok. I was hoping someone would.
I’m not flinging poo at or for anyone.
I can see why our political discourse is hurting so badly. If this is the kind of response one can expect from their community then their community is screwed from both sides.
skipper
November 13th, 2012
8:37 am
@stands for decibels;
I certainly earned that….for real. She still let herself go, though! And what about JFK, FDR, and the MANY others who let that foot slip….and some (definitely not all, but some) were married to beauties!
Welcome to the Occupation
November 13th, 2012
8:38 am
I guess if you create a culture in which generals are treated as rock stars, they eventually begin to act like, well, rock stars. With groupies.
Bingo. So true.
Whatever
November 13th, 2012
8:39 am
Aquagirl,
I’m just not as superior as you are. That’s why I was hoping someone of your stature could shed some light on the issue.
I don’t believe or disbelieve it at the moment. Just heard about it and wondered if it was a junk story or if it was valid. I assumed some on here would know.
Tom Middleton
November 13th, 2012
8:39 am
I was reading yesterday where both Generals Eisenhower and Patton had mistresses during WWII. Wonder where we’d be right now if we’d made them resign, better off? I very, very, very seriously doubt it! Just sayin’…
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
8:39 am
Lord Help Us…uhhh, born in this country, proud of their country, not ashamed of their country ( no apology tour), knows Government is NOT the solution…IMPEACH HIM
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:40 am
I certainly earned that….for real.
Acknowledged. Earlier suggestion officially withdrawn. that said…
She still let herself go, though!
You know this how?
Step one: don’t assume sh-t.
Step two: always remember step one.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 13th, 2012
8:41 am
Pretty amazing how this unfortunate, yet bountiful story for many (including People Mag and the like), is twisted into a partisan issue by this crew.
How this could be interpreted as “Obama’s fault”, an issue involving Cantor or another of the borish attacks on the archenemy Fox news..you do realize that news outlets are like small kids, they can’t tell the difference between good and bad attention …both work..
Anyhow, if I were a character in this act, I take the “conduit” part..
TaxPayer
November 13th, 2012
8:41 am
Any con-spirator worth his weight in birther rants knows this whole thing is but a distraction designed to divert attention away from Agenda 21. It’s true. Honest. Really. No kidding. This one’s for real.
We Are Laughing at You
November 13th, 2012
8:41 am
You Republican losers just don’t get it.
-Obama was born in Kenya- Trump told us so.
- Obama is covering up “something” in Benghazi- Fox told us so.
- Obama is for “class warfare” – because he wants billionaires to pay 3% more tax.
- Women can’t get pregnant by rape- Akins told us so.
- Women don’t die in childbirth – yet thousands still do.
In the past 24 years Democrats have won 4 of the last 6 elections and America has elected that “black, Kenyan socialist” twice.
Shouldn’t you right wing losers get a grip and stop listening to the conservative media complex that makes millions by “playing you”.
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
8:42 am
’m trying to find out. That’s why I’m asking a group with a large mix of left/right. I assume someone would know if it’s valid or not.
You’re asking a supposed group of strangers on the internet for confirmation? Sure you are.
What is with cons and their gross behavior? If you gotta do this stuff, go to your room and shut the door.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 13th, 2012
8:42 am
I believe that every military man has had an “Angel” come into his life when she was most needed. A woman who saw the hurt, anger and anguish in a man coming out of combat, and
with no strings attached, took that man in her arms and comforted him. I don’t know if that was the case with Paula Broadwell, but I will say this, God bless the Angels.
independent thinker
November 13th, 2012
8:42 am
Poor Eric Cantor- his boy Romney is getting his butt kicked by Bill Clinton and the cons can’t even manage to get a good sex scandal going before the election and blame it on Obama- how ironic is it fellow dems Ole Bill must be laughing to death.
Lord Help Us
November 13th, 2012
8:43 am
‘uhhh, born in this country, proud of their country, not ashamed of their country’
YOU are part of the GOP’s problem. Thanks for helping to get Obama reelected. Keep on with the stoopid and guess what will happen in 2016?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 13th, 2012
8:44 am
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
8:39 am
Give it a rest.
clem
November 13th, 2012
8:44 am
ahnald, take your tripe elsewhere
Bill Clinton
November 13th, 2012
8:46 am
‘inappropriate touching beneath the dining room table” – Heck I used to do that at state dinners all the time. Its called diplomacy.
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:46 am
I was reading yesterday where both Generals Eisenhower and Patton had mistresses during WWII.
I was reading yesterday that the gender paradigm among America’s professional class was somewhat different 70 years ago.
Whatever
November 13th, 2012
8:47 am
Aquagirl,
I know I don’t post here much and obviously when I do you don’t keep track of my slant on things but I’m not a con. I’m not a liberal. I’m a rare moderate who didn’t vote for Obama or Romney.
My assumption, even though you are strangers, is that you are interested in political issues and therefore might be able to at least point me to legitimate story on the issue.
I apologize for bothering you with it.
Again, I say it’s a sad testament to our society that this is the response someone gets when asking a question like this. We can’t even have civil discourse about it. I’m not even pushing a viewpoint. I’m just trying to find out if any of the stories are valid so I can develop a viewpoint.
alex
November 13th, 2012
8:49 am
@we are ..speaking of play you, see nyt article on how the obama campaign ingeniously used social behavior (or whatever) experts for the campaign, brilliant -no doubt, creepy, mabye… we all get played and I “played ” with my son last night and had a great time, here’s to playing…..
Lynnie Gal
November 13th, 2012
8:50 am
Next: Broadwell changes the title of her biography about Petraeus to…”The General’s Genitals”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 13th, 2012
8:50 am
But…but….but… y’all are missing the point. Somehow this must be blamed on a failure of Obama and a reason, now that he has been reelected, to impeach him. These are the same people who want states to succeed from the US and who sign petitions on behalf of Georgia without even asking Georgians if they want succeed.
indigo
November 13th, 2012
8:50 am
stands for decibels
In your ideal schoolboy Christian Academy world, married men and women are always faithful. Married people are always, in your dream world, pillars of fidelity.
Unfortunately, the real world is what we really live in. In this world, some married men and women are just no good and won’t hesitate to hop in bed with any atractive partner they can find.
Someday, when you are a grown man, the harsh, bitter reality of living in the world will stare you in the face and make it impossible to rationalize it away with wishful religious thinking.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 13th, 2012
8:51 am
Whatever
You big silly! Here’s how it works…you read the column and then read the comments…then you pick one you have objections to and go immediately to google to find an alternative view of the issue at hand…you post it with comments..then those who disagree with your disagreement will google and find information counter to your information and question your source and likely call you names in an effort to get you to come around to their way of thinking..the end of the discussion is characterized by when you get labeled gullible CON or lightheaded LIB..whatever the case may be..
This is how it works…its absurd but it gets to be somewhat addictive…and I for one have learned a lot from dancing on issues..sometimes you are the bug, and sometimes you are the windshield..
Recon 0311 2533
November 13th, 2012
8:52 am
Some on here are either incredibly naive or so far politically brainwashed that can’t or won’t recognize serious issues of coverups or incompetence within our federal government that require answers. Indeed pathetic people.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
8:52 am
I’m not even pushing a viewpoint.
Yeah, you are.
I’m just trying to find out if any of the stories are valid so I can develop a viewpoint.
No, you aren’t.
We Are Laughing at You
November 13th, 2012
8:53 am
Ahnald… No please keep it up. watch Fox and Limbaugh and spread your little conspiracy theories.
It’s entertaining and ensures the GOP will only attract low IQ voters.
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:53 am
In your ideal schoolboy Christian Academy world, married men and women are always faithful. Married people are always, in your dream world, pillars of fidelity.
Indigo, who, pray tell, are you talking to?
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
8:53 am
I say it’s a sad testament to our society that this is the response someone gets when asking a question like this.
Oh, so sorry….Jay’s fainting couch is not big enough to accommodate trolls. Would you like a blankie for your swooning fit?
Rush Limbaugh
November 13th, 2012
8:54 am
Dick Morris just clued me in that Obama was pimping these women to the generals and that Kelley and Broadwell got in a cat fight over whose john Petreaus was. Obama was distracted by that Benghazi matter and could not get these women under control.
skipper
November 13th, 2012
8:54 am
stands for decibels……..please expound on the “paradigm” comment…..
Lord Help Us
November 13th, 2012
8:54 am
‘Some on here are either incredibly naive or so far politically brainwashed that can’t or won’t recognize serious issues…’
Someone mistook his mirror for a computer screen this am…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
INDIGO
I agree with your assessment excepting the comment that people who make such mistakes are not good…many factors involved, unhappiness, emotional instability, disease of addiction/substances, insecurities etcetera that fuel some of these poor choices…
I don’t think these are bad people simply for this particular action, they may very well be but sometimes the poor choices that define a bad person are not within control…
Just my opinion, I could be wrong..
Greg
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
2 generals, one housewife, one biographer, and two doctors embroiled in a lurid sex scandal. Yeah, I would watch this Sundays at 10 on ABC.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
Recon plays the Ftroop superiority card….. You posters are just too stupid and pathetic to know how great the Recon is at knowing how much incompetence there is.
Peter
November 13th, 2012
8:55 am
These are the guys Republican’s want to give all that tax payers money too ?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 13th, 2012
8:56 am
Well, none of this would of happened if that Jezabel hadn’t of been rubbing the general’s knee under the table. It’s women that lead men off the Path of Righteousness. You got one that never stopped till the head of the CIA took her up on her brazen behavior. You got one that can’t even set at a table without putting her hands on a guy. And worse, she made a FBI agent, of all things, send her pictures of him bare-chested. And you got one Jezabel setting off the whole thing by sending the other Jezabel a e-mail telling her to keep her hands off of her target.
I swear, this stuff won’t stop till we learn the Pope has about 100 welfare babys by a dozen or so nuns.
Whatever
November 13th, 2012
8:57 am
Kamchak,
What viewpoint am I pushing? I have no idea.
You guys are as paranoid as the cons……and that’s saying something.
I’m out. This is too crazy.
jconservative
November 13th, 2012
8:57 am
Why did Eric Cantor sit on the story 7 days before the presidential election?
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:57 am
skipper @ 8.54, I think it should be painfully obvious that the barely-above-chattle role afforded women in the WWII era meant that such things as discreet affairs were tolerated in a manner quite differently than they are today.
There were unwritten rules for how powerful men were supposed to behave, and I assume Gen.s Ike and Patton played by them.
fair and balanced
November 13th, 2012
8:57 am
I hear Anne Coulter is pissed -none of the generals were interested in her and she is blaming Obama.
Lord Help Us
November 13th, 2012
8:58 am
‘Some on here are either incredibly naive or so far politically brainwashed that can’t or won’t recognize serious issues ‘
I do love reading that from someone that has latched onto every crazy conspiracy theory that the right-wing entertainment complex has ever ginned up…if that ain’t irony, I don’t know what is…
stands for decibels
November 13th, 2012
8:58 am
and skipper, for the record, I apologize for blowing up at you earlier. A simple “some respect for the man’s wife and family, sir” from me would’ve sufficed.
/drive-by
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 13th, 2012
8:59 am
We Are Laughing at You
November 13th, 2012
8:53 am
Surely you have a better game than referring to CONS as ignorant and of low mental capabilities…low IQ’s? Like there is any shortage of that on both sides? The gop has not cornered the market on stupid…
Banderson
November 13th, 2012
8:59 am
I was wondering how Ms. Kelly got her own FBI agent to look into anonymous threatening emails when the rest of us can’t get anything done about the annoying, and illegal contacts from Rachel from Cardservices or the robo call telling us we’ve just “won” a free security system. Now I know. You have to hook up with an FBI agent. Now I just have to find an FBI agent attracted to an old white man.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
8:59 am
What viewpoint am I pushing? I have no idea.
Let’s try it like this:
Whatever, is it true that you have quit beating your wife?
I don’t have an agenda here, I’m just trying to get an answer to a serious question.
Peter
November 13th, 2012
8:59 am
” Cost Plus Contracts ” were a great idea……..
I guess after all that free cash to the Military complex, the “Religious Right ” believed they could have anything they wanted. providing they went to church, and confessed their sins every week to a priest who was keeping their secret !
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
9:01 am
Now I just have to find an FBI agent attracted to an old white man
It helps to have a big…..wallet.
Paul
November 13th, 2012
9:03 am
Serious lack of leadership, judgment and professionalism in the military and the FBI. I do have to give credit where credit is due – to Cantor. Now for the conspiracy theories about how he was in league with the Obama campaign to keep quiet so he’d get his way on… something… they’ll think of something.
It’s not just how the case was opened that is questionable. The FBI’s actions sounded like they were Special Prosecutors, going where ever the fishing line took them. They knew early on there was no security compromise with Gen Petraeus, yet the still continued digging. Why? What was the basis for the search warrant? Was there a decision to not inform superiors and the Intel Committees, or are the FBI supervisors too ignorant to know their own procedures?
Army head of Africa Command was just relieved and punished. Another Army general’s undergoing an Article 32 hearing. Another one’s in the same fix. Army has a serious problem in how they identify and bring up the chain their generals. They’re in for a shakeup. Might be good to pull an Eisenhower – did down the ranks, get some men and women who are not all ‘hoo-ah’ and give them some stars.
But still… you’ve got a buddy in the FBI so their cybercrimes unit will go after anyone you say made you feel uncomfortable? Yeah, we have a problem.
Banderson
November 13th, 2012
9:04 am
It helps to have a big…..wallet.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
my wallet is big – unfortunately, more in the way of George Castanza’s (old man reference)
Brosephus™
November 13th, 2012
9:05 am
Why did Eric Cantor sit on the story 7 days before the presidential election?
He’s probably got a knee or two that he’s been rubbing on himself. The last thing you do when you’re having an affair is attempt to out someone else who’s having one. Remember Bob Livingston??? Newt Gingrich??? There is precedence there for Cantor to be quiet.
too little time
November 13th, 2012
9:05 am
It is a matter between the generals, their families and God.
to which Aquagirl replied:
Not as long as they have security clearances.
Bingo. It is not sufficient to allow stuff like this to happen “as long as security hasn’t been breached”. Security is a pro-active effort. It doesn’t help to close the barn door AFTER the cows are out. Security is preventing an action before it happens. Intelligence agencies have LONG used women and sex to entrap and blackmail military, politicians, etc. It is NOT a private matter between the director of the CIA and his mistresses.
indigo
November 13th, 2012
9:06 am
Stevie Ray – 8:55
That is a good point. Sometimes, good people do bad things. And, sometimes, they’re just no good to start with. And, oftentimes, it’s hard to know which is which.
godless heathen
November 13th, 2012
9:06 am
Using words like “obozo” is juvenile and it totally depletes any shred of credibility you may have otherwise had. It’s not funny, it’s not clever. It’s silly and childish.
Is “Mittens” a word like “obozo”?
Tom Middleton
November 13th, 2012
9:07 am
Skipper
I think he’s trying to say, Skipper, that war should be about the rules of romantic propriety and gotcha journalism, not by whether or not we win the damn war. Be patient, Skipper, he doesn’t understand.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:08 am
Is “Mittens” a word like “obozo”?
Is the first lady’s weight like “Mittens”?
indigo
November 13th, 2012
9:08 am
stands – 8:53
I’m talking to YOU, schoolboy.
skipper
November 13th, 2012
9:09 am
@stands for decibels….
10-4. I suppose my neanderthalic side came out. Sometimes, and I’m actually trying to be truthful, when the wife appears (and she may not have, but it DOES APPEAR) to have just “plumb” let herself go and an attractive and in-shape beauty comes along, this kinda stuff will happen. I am not shooting at Mrs. P, and I’m sure at one time she may have looked ok, but she has apparantly gone through “reverse metamorphosis.” These are hard words and terrible thoughts, I know, but unfortunately this stuff can happen. I am not questioning character of anything else…….I promise!
ahnald
November 13th, 2012
9:11 am
So when Obozo has his picture put on all the food stamps he is doling out that will be a shining moment for those who voted for him…y’all set the bar high
Moderate Line
November 13th, 2012
9:11 am
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
6:22 am
20,000 to 30,000 pages of e-mails? When in the hell was this guy actually doing his job?
+++++
Excellent point.
Petraeus and Allen’s next stop; working for a defense contractor? – Ms Sparky
November 13th, 2012
9:13 am
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Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 13th, 2012
9:13 am
BRO
Any remarks suggesting this is Obama’s fault are of course foolhearted…beyond that, could it be that Cantor actually acted in accordance with security policy? Let’s not give him any credit for possibly doing the right (no pun intended) thing…??
I think the last time I saw a poll, a sizable amount…I’ve seen up to 50% or more of men cheat…lack of self control may actually be ingrained in our genes…we are after all seed spreaders..
Sad state of affairs..I imagine if we outed all elected officials who cheat, the government would shut down..
too little time
November 13th, 2012
9:14 am
I was reading yesterday where both Generals Eisenhower and Patton had mistresses during WWII.
In WWII, we did not have digital cameras the size of bugs, the internet, government-proof encryption, etc. We didn’t have flash drives that could store 128GB, or the ability to spread computer viruses via an inside connection. Patten didn’t have to worry about drone strikes on his tank because one of his men sent an email. It was a different world.
Brosephus™
November 13th, 2012
9:16 am
Stevie Ray
It’s plausible that Cantor did the right thing. Given his partisaned past, I don’t buy that idea. Forgive me for being a skeptic. After all, you’ve read Woodruff’s book, and Cantor is no angel. I don’t trust ANY politician. If given the chance, there are probably very few who wouldn’t take the opportunity to try out something/someone new.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:16 am
I think the last time I saw a poll, a sizable amount…I’ve seen up to 50% or more of people say that I will win an Oscar for best director next year.
Stewart Blewit
November 13th, 2012
9:17 am
Vote now for next summer’s Benghazi bumper sticker using the Obama symbol as the “O”:
a) COWARD
b) TREASON
c) COVERUP
Karl Rove
November 13th, 2012
9:18 am
If this sex scandal came up before the election we could have blamed Bill Clinton and maybe Obama. If Obama hadn’t gotten to the FBI, Fox and I could have convinced everyone this tramp was an Obama plant to keep Petreaus from telling the truth on Benghazi. Probably an old flame of Clinton’s. Heck he was notorious for coppin a feel under the tableThis would have swung the votes our way and distracted everyone enough for me to get our boys to rig a few states.
alex
November 13th, 2012
9:18 am
@whatever, correct, sounds like this blog could have used your modesty, as to the ballot stuffing or whatever, I have read nothing. Kamchak reads minds and Indigo is a jilted lover and SOMEBODY still uses the term”paradigm” i was hoping we could “shift” from that…
as for Patraeus and the minions,you can’t right this stuff:truth is stranger than fiction..Look there’s a banana….. Whatever the “truth” is I suspect it is as simple a s an arrogant scmuck(read:general), meets alluring, lonely overachiever (read :broadwell),he returns toa 15 year old mentality and then realizes his mistakes, takes his adeu and what do we have:a jilted lover”..fascinating, so novel….Oprah awaits her…
Aquagirl
November 13th, 2012
9:21 am
when the wife appears (and she may not have, but it DOES APPEAR) to have just “plumb” let herself go and an attractive and in-shape beauty comes along, this kinda stuff will happen.
This wasn’t a drunken one-time encounter where he lost control of the little head for a couple of hours. It happens because men think they’re entitled and can get away with it, not because they just OMG can’t control the trouser trout.
If you’re gonna note Holly Petraeus “let herself go” (presumably with multiple boxes of twinkies) then it’s worth noting her husband wasn’t exactly the paragon of self-control either.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:21 am
….Oprah awaits her…
Oprah, Fox and Friends… whatevs.
Grasshopper
November 13th, 2012
9:22 am
“If you’re incapable of using the internet to find decent, reliable information then what anyone else says is irrelevant. Your brain has no filter and will take in any junk floating downstream.”
Cue mark.
And enter Bookman’s blog.
godless heathen
November 13th, 2012
9:23 am
Whatever,
Don’t come here seeking information. But if you seek ridicule from shrill partisans who do nothing all day but display hypocrisy and attempt to make the same juvenile insults all day, this is the place.
Tom
November 13th, 2012
9:24 am
Any of these guys get a sloppy in the Oval Office?
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 13th, 2012
9:24 am
I love how after the election we got all new ass hats to replace the old ass hats. Any takers as to who Stewart Blewit used to be?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:27 am
Any takers as to who Stewart Blewit used to be?
I have an idea, but it’s still a little early to make that call.
Tom Middleton
November 13th, 2012
9:27 am
Too little time
It’s a different world for sure, but many of our generals are the same. Apparently with the great ones, we just need to cut them some slack and say thanks.
I mean, it’s our failure of civilization that we had (have) the war in the first place, and we think they’re the ones who should be perfect? Time to get busy, my friend, for that’s your job not theirs!
Brosephus™
November 13th, 2012
9:27 am
Sometimes, and I’m actually trying to be truthful, when the wife appears (and she may not have, but it DOES APPEAR) to have just “plumb” let herself go and an attractive and in-shape beauty comes along, this kinda stuff will happen.
http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/top-10-reasons-why-men-cheat-531881.html
There are many places that have done polls with men who have cheated. I can’t personally recall any poll that claimed the wife’s looks as a reason for them to step outside the relationship. I’m not saying that is not a reason for someone. I just have not personally seen that reason expressed by anybody.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 13th, 2012
9:28 am
Any men go after the 20-somethings anymore? I mean, neither one of these women are a raving beauty and they’re just a little short of drawing Social Security.
I guess the next thing we hear will be the FBI busting into houses and collecting stained housecoats and granny bloomers.
Brosephus™
November 13th, 2012
9:28 am
Any takers as to who Stewart Blewit used to be?
Who cares?!!? Anybody who’s interested in any substantial conversation, whether partisaned or not, will keep the same name and not try to hide who they are.
blackbird13
November 13th, 2012
9:29 am
Maybe all this will at least temper some of the reflexive worship of all things military in this country.
Cosby
November 13th, 2012
9:29 am
Same goes for politicians / elected officials. shame the news media has become the likes of the View and David letterman. wonder how many more scandles will come out of The current administration before the citizens of the USA wake up…what a sad culture we have become in 4 years.
MANGLER
November 13th, 2012
9:31 am
At least these women are attractive. I mean, there is that. No blue dresses or cigars (yet).
kayaker 71
November 13th, 2012
9:31 am
Aquagirl, 9:21,
“Control the trouser trout”?…… Last time I looked, it takes two to tango. Female infidelity has reached nearly the level of male infidelity over the past several years. Seems that ladies have a hankering for that trouser trout, especially if it belongs to someone else than their husband.
Noneya
November 13th, 2012
9:31 am
Let’s get something straight. This is not indicative of soldiers. Most one stars and higher cease being soldiers somewhere and become politicians. They’d throw their mother under a bus for another promotion or accolade. That said, anyone who believes what the MSM, that’s main stream media for you noobs at political misdealings, has to say about anything since their flip in the 70s to being the blatant spin doctors for the libtards of both parties are fools.
Banderson
November 13th, 2012
9:32 am
what a sad culture we have become in 4 years.
++++++++++++++++++++++++
Calista Gingrich agrees with you.
H. E. Pennypacker
November 13th, 2012
9:33 am
Welcome back Kayaker 320!!!!
If I missed you at an earlier posting, I apologize.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 13th, 2012
9:35 am
“Vote now for next summer’s Benghazi bumper sticker using the Obama symbol as the “O”:”
I vote for NOTHING-BURGER
http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2012/11/12/love-in-the-house-of-spy/
curious
November 13th, 2012
9:37 am
Can we get Andrea Sneiderman to weigh in on this ?
skipper
November 13th, 2012
9:39 am
Aquagirl,
You are right about him, too. He in fact may not be an Addonis, but even though it is tough language, and hopefully “stands for decibels” will understand, this is not an attack on his wife. The fact that somebody is butt-ugly is NOT an attack! Its just the truth. This gal gives Scout Willis a run for the money, quite an accomplishment, by the way.
kayaker 71
November 13th, 2012
9:39 am
Pennypacker, 9:33,
I have been in mourning for the last few days. I must admit, however, that this crow tastes a lot like chicken.
godless heathen
November 13th, 2012
9:40 am
Any men go after the 20-somethings anymore?
Remember the blue dress? Nothing to lose is not a safe street to go down.
Brosephus™
November 13th, 2012
9:40 am
not because they just OMG can’t control the trouser trout.
See, that right there is the problem. Trout will get you into trouble because people want to share their trout with everyone. What you need to do is get some of that Alabama Black Snake. When you’re packing ABS, people get greedy and want to keep it to themselves.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/…term=Alabama%20Black%20Snake
Martin the Calvinist
November 13th, 2012
9:41 am
Aquagirl, Clinton had just as high a clearance…didn’t cost him his job, this shouldn’t be a big deal either for these guys either…..just saying
Paul
November 13th, 2012
9:42 am
Do ya’ suppose if I had a buddy at the FBI and I said I was on this blog and some of the bloggers had bragged on how cybersavvy they were and their posts towards me were, I thought, threatening, do you think the FBI would be able to track down your IP, get into your email account, look for anything threatening, then if they saw something else that caught their eye they could look at that, and if that didn’t pan out they’d keep on going until they found paydirt?
I’m more concerned about that than I am with who a top-level bureaucrat is doing on the side.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:42 am
The fact that somebody is butt-ugly is NOT an attack! Its just the truth.
There’s your sign.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 13th, 2012
9:43 am
Jindal SHEETS!
godless heathen
November 13th, 2012
9:44 am
What you need to do is get some of that Alabama Black Snake
Good name for a band.
hiram
November 13th, 2012
9:44 am
Ted Kaczynski may have been on to something.
Doggone/GA
November 13th, 2012
9:45 am
“The fact that somebody is butt-ugly is NOT an attack! Its just the truth”
No it isn’t. It’s an OPINION, not a fact
Paul
November 13th, 2012
9:46 am
godless
“Any men go after the 20-somethings anymore?”
Ever watch the new Two and A Half Men? Where Kutcher thought the now-grown daughter of his friend was making a play for him and found out the daughter wanted to set him up with her single mom? And Kutcher asked if there was a chance of anything between the two of them and the daughter retched and went ‘ewwwwwwww…..’
Older guys are masters at self-delusion.