Georgia’s Tom Price a central figure in D.C. drama

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With the election finally behind us, President Obama and Congress will now try to set partisanship aside and cut a major deal on taxes, spending and entitlements.

Good luck on that, right?

The good news — which is also the bad news — is that they have enormous incentive to succeed. Without a new law, taxes are set to jump by $400 billion at the start of the year and federal spending will be slashed by $200 billion. If allowed to take full effect, those steps have the potential to set off another deep recession. So the future looks much like the past, with weeks of drama, confrontation, intrigue and brinksmanship looming between Democrats and Republicans, between the House and Senate and between Congress and the White House.

The same can be said of two Georgia Republicans, U.S. Rep. Tom Price of Marietta Roswell and U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss. Over the next three to six months, they’ll be watching each other very closely, and their interactions have the potential to directly affect the course of national politics.

Chambliss is a conservative Republican, but on fiscal issues he has been more willing than many of his GOP colleagues to consider compromise with Democrats. Much as he dislikes higher taxes, he seems to fear soaring debt even more. He has taken a leadership role in the Gang of Eight, a group of four Republican senators and four Democratic senators who have been talking and plotting for at least two years to try to reach agreement on how to slash the deficit.

The day after the election, for example, at a moment when the rest of the nation was still trying to digest what happened, Chambliss joined other gang members on a conference call to plot their course once Congress reconvenes on Tuesday. There’s a lot of skepticism about whether they can succeed, but they represent one of the few forums in which Republicans and Democrats are actually trying to reach consensus.

The broad outlines of a deal are no secret. As a matter of politics and simple math, the only way to significantly reduce the deficit is to increase tax revenues and decrease spending. You do both, or you do nothing. It’s as simple as that. Democrats who are protective of entitlement programs and the safety net have to be willing to make cuts in those programs in return for higher tax revenue, particularly from more affluent Americans. Republicans who have refused to consider higher taxes have to be willing to soften that stance in return for entitlement reform.

Which is where Price comes in.

The former physician from Marietta is one of the most conservative members of Congress and continues to reject the notion of compromise with Democrats. Last week, for example, House Speaker John Boehner made the logical point that with the president’s re-election, ObamaCare is now certain to survive. But in an interview on Fox News Sunday, Price refused to make that concession, insisting that Republicans will continue to fight it at every turn.

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Cathy McMorris Rodgers addresses the 2012 Republican National Convention. (AP)

Price has also decided to seek the chairmanship of the House Republican Conference, the No. 4 position in the House hierarchy. There too, he is bumping heads with Boehner, who has thrown his support behind the conference vice chair, Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington.

If elected conference chair, McMorris Rodgers would become the only woman in a major leadership role in the House GOP. (For example, none of the 21 House committees is chaired by a woman.) That’s a major image problem for a party having serious trouble attracting female voters. McMorris Rodgers is also more moderate than Price, who is trying to rally fellow House conservatives to his cause.

The race between Price and McMorris Rodgers — to be decided in a secret ballot among House Republicans — will be watched as a test of Boehner’s strength and influence within his caucus. Price is considered the underdog, but should he win, it would bode poorly for Boehner’s ability to deliver his caucus on important budget votes in the next few months.

However, if Price loses, that too could have a serious impact on the national debate over revenue and spending. If his ambitions are frustrated in the House, Price becomes much more likely to take on Chambliss in the 2014 Republican Senate primary. His strategy would be to hang the dreaded RINO nametag around the neck of Georgia’s senior senator, depicting Chambliss as a sellout to the GOP cause.

So every time Chambliss is quoted in the media over the next few months as seeking a “balanced” approach to our debt problem, Price will take note. Every time Chambliss appears in public alongside Senate Democrats preaching compromise, a potential campaign commercial will be born.

And both men, I suspect, will be keeping very close tabs on things here at home, through polling and phone calls, trying to determine just how much leeway Georgia Republicans are prepared to give Chambliss in the budget debate.

Should a backlash develop among the GOP base here at home, the senator may be forced to decide whether addressing a major national challenge is worth significant risk to his political future.

It is.

– Jay Bookman

894 comments Add your comment

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
9:02 pm

barking frog – I don’t have any money, but I pay my taxes. Unfortunately all my income goes to Blue Cross Blue Shield of GA.

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
9:02 pm

“Doggone – I know. You don’t have an answer. That’s OK”

Since you already know what I think…what’s my answer?

barking frog

November 12th, 2012
9:02 pm

Nunna,
no they can’t and the government will pay it for them.

barking frog

November 12th, 2012
9:04 pm

nunna
what do you use as a medium of exchange to pay ?

moonbat betty`

November 12th, 2012
9:04 pm

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
9:04 pm

What part of “you don’t have an answer” were you having difficulty with?

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
9:05 pm

Barking frog – float.

moonbat betty`

November 12th, 2012
9:06 pm

^^^^who said the French couldn’t ROCK?^^^^

RF

November 12th, 2012
9:06 pm

evenin’ Josef: I see some of the usual array of folks has wandered onto the verandah. I took a weekend to escape to the beach with my youngest boy one last time before the sand gets cold. Folks still going on about taxes and how AWFUL it is to expect a little more out of those at the top of the food chain again?

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
9:07 pm

“What part of “you don’t have an answer” were you having difficulty with?”

Ahhhh…so you flunked mind reading too. Welcome to the club.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
9:07 pm

RF – nah, just have a problem with freeloaders.

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
9:08 pm

“Folks still going on about taxes and how AWFUL it is to expect a little more out of those at the top of the food chain again?”

Yep!

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
9:08 pm

Doggone – you obviously flunked logic too.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
9:10 pm

My bad Doggone. That was mean of me. I apologize. (Really)

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
9:10 pm

“Doggone – you obviously flunked logic too”

Everytime I’ve been told that…it’s been by someone who TRULY has poor logic. EVERY time.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
9:11 pm

I apologized. Gee.

F. Sinkwich

November 12th, 2012
9:12 pm

“In my 65 years I have seen our flag flying thousands and thousands of times but when you have seen it flying in a foreign land over battleground defended by Americans the emotion is an overwhelming one that forever lives within.”

I feel the same way, DM. But you’re pretty much wasting pixels on this blog.

Most here have turned this country into a euro-socialist cesspool that patriots can’t recognize.

RF

November 12th, 2012
9:14 pm

“RF – nah, just have a problem with freeloaders”

Me too, especially those pesky corporations stashing cash overseas so they don’t have to pay taxes on it here. Nothing like refusing to invest in the country you call your home. Unlike those, the poor that don’t pay income taxes spend every penny they make here and help keep the economic engine running. Funny thing, you take more from them and the economy ends up slowing down more. Consumer economics really isn’t all that complicated if you think about it.

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
9:14 pm

“I apologized. Gee”

Take a look at the posted times before you go all hurt. And nothing you’ve said so far leads me to believe that your apology is sincere. If it is, you owe me about 20 to catch up.

Orange12

November 12th, 2012
9:15 pm

Nunna,

Don’t apologize. It makes them mad. Kind of like kicking them in the balls and then saying you are sorry.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
9:16 pm

I meant it, and tried to emphasize it by adding (Really). Your remarks to me were of a non-insulting nature though?

Josef

November 12th, 2012
9:17 pm

RF

Yep. You didn’t miss anything. Glad you and the young’un had some quality time.

RF

November 12th, 2012
9:17 pm

“Most here have turned this country into a euro-socialist cesspool that patriots can’t recognize”

So when did patriotism and liberalism become mutually exclusive concepts? Is it that hard to accept that people can love this country and ALL people in it? It’s that narrow, disdainful view of everyone else that’s driving the Republican party right off into oblivion. You can, in fact, be moderate or even, dare I say it, progressive and still love this country. In fact, there are even some in uniform that voted for the sitting president. Would you court martial them for it?

Fred ™

November 12th, 2012
9:17 pm

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
7:57 pm

Look. I don’t watch FOX. I don’t listen to Rush. You can’t think for yourself, thus we get the same old Fox/Limbaugh garbage. Explain it rather than changing the subject.
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Explain what? I won’t justify words I haven’t said. I was against Obama renewing the Bush tax cuts last time. I said he needed to let them expire and let the tax rate increase on EVERYBODY, so how in the hell am I supposed to “clamor” for something i don’t support?

I know you don’t watch FOX or listen to talk radio. They actually follow YOU around so they can get YOUR thoughts and then they steal them which is why you sound exactly like them. I get it…….

RF

November 12th, 2012
9:19 pm

Here’s a little reading for the Republicans here and elsewhere from one suburban white guy who has some suggestions for you:

http://www.ericgarland.co/2012/11/09/letter-to-a-future-republican-strategist-regarding-white-people/

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 12th, 2012
9:19 pm

Is it that hard to accept that people can love this country and ALL people in it?

Yeah, pretty much.

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
9:20 pm

“Your remarks to me were of a non-insulting nature though?”

do you REALLY expect to come here with aggressive statements, insults, and claims to already know what we think…and then expect a polite conversation?

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
9:20 pm

Fred – then they better start paying me royalties.

F. Sinkwich

November 12th, 2012
9:21 pm

“So when did patriotism and liberalism become mutually exclusive concepts?”

It’s by definition, dude.

Just listen to O’bozo.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 12th, 2012
9:24 pm

do you REALLY expect to come here with aggressive statements, insults, and claims to already know what we think…and then expect a polite conversation?

Yeah, pretty much.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
9:29 pm

You guys were insulting cons way before I got here.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 12th, 2012
9:30 pm

Hate to leave this lovely discussion, but I gotta go.

RF

November 12th, 2012
9:33 pm

“It’s by definition, dude.

Just listen to O’bozo.”

Yeah, I have been, and so far it does seem to be possible that you can be a Democrat and love this country. Perhaps we love it even more because instead of pining away for what it “used to be” we see the possibilities for what it COULD be and long for that instead. This country’s greatness is built on its inclusiveness and its commitment to “promote the general welfare” of all, not on promoting the welfare of the rich and corporations to whom we should ever so grateful for a crust of bread. It works when we all work together to support it. As the good book says “For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.” That is what has made this country great, by God’s own definition, IMO.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 12th, 2012
9:34 pm

You guys were insulting cons way before I got here.

Oh look, him can read minds and know what we say before him arrives.

Isn’t that — special.

Bill Orvis White

November 12th, 2012
9:34 pm

Unshackle the chains of big gov’t and we would see small businessmen thrive. I’m not investing. I’m not hiring. I have no idea how much my taxe$ will be going up come January 2013 and beyond. Also, you naive liberal fools have no idea that all of your taxe$ are going up come January 2013. What? You thought King Hussein Obama wasn’t going to rai$e your taxe$? Guess what? They’re going up thanks to this lying “president” and his Socialist buddies Hairy Read and Nanny Pelosi. Have any of you heard about a double dip recession? Well, it’s coming thanks to you libs. If anyone pulls up to my shed with an Obama sticker, “he” will have to leave my property – no less think that you will ever by my employee, customer or business partner. Amen, Bill

oops

November 12th, 2012
9:37 pm

Democrats won the class war.

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
9:39 pm

“Democrats won the class war”

It’s too soon to say that so definitely. Success in one battle does not war win.

RF

November 12th, 2012
9:40 pm

Bill: that attitude alone will run you out of business. Might as well go ahead and put back up the “Whites Only” sign while you’re at it. If taxes go up for all of us it will be because your party idiots refuse to negotiate and add a little bit of taxation to those who can afford to pay a little more (quite a number of whom have already said it should happen, btw). It IS possible to discuss revenue increases and spending cuts as a reasonable plan. Why even today some of the Republican talking heads are saying it’s not such a bad idea. But refuse to consider it and we will all, in fact, be paying more and head into another recession. If we do, it’s on your heads, and you can bet folks will remember it come 2014, 2016, and for quite a while beyond.

F. Sinkwich

November 12th, 2012
9:41 pm

“This country’s greatness is built on its inclusiveness and its commitment to “promote the general welfare” of all…”

All together now!

Kum-bye-ahhhhh My Lord, Kum-bye-ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Get a grip.

Face it, dude, your life is pathetic because YOU made bad decisions. Not corporations, not businesses, not the rich, not the guy next door with a newer car, YOU!

Once you can accept that you’ll feel better.

Maybe even move out of your mom’s basement.

RF

November 12th, 2012
9:42 pm

“It’s too soon to say that so definitely. Success in one battle does not war win”

That battle has only begun, when you consider how many states have strong conservative leadership right now. Texas has already filed for secession- I’d say the war is just beginning, but we have a good idea of where the citizens stand at least for now.

RF

November 12th, 2012
9:46 pm

“Face it, dude, your life is pathetic because YOU made bad decisions. Not corporations, not businesses, not the rich, not the guy next door with a newer car, YOU!”

Actually, spittle spewer, my life is pretty good right now. I have a comfortable house, two pretty nice vehicles, and a career I LOVE!!! All that in absolute spite of all your amazing bobble-head in the WH did to destroy the economy in his two terms. I’m part of middle-class WHITE America that doesn’t think you guys have a dang clue what makes this country work.

I’d say your life is pretty pathetic if you get so riled up by the simple mention of what this country can do besides fill the corporate coffers and squeeze the middle class out of existence. We ain’t goin’ down without a fight, I’ll guar-on-tee you that!

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
9:49 pm

“I’d say the war is just beginning, but we have a good idea of where the citizens stand at least for now”

Yes…on both sides.

RF

November 12th, 2012
9:54 pm

“Yes…on both sides.”

And one side a LITTLE uptight at the moment. I wonder how long it will take before the Republican party splits into two parties. I still think we might end up with a strong three party battle in at least the next two election cycles.

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
9:58 pm

“I still think we might end up with a strong three party battle in at least the next two election cycles.”

Stong, maybe…but equal? Not very likely. If it happens it’s more likely to end up the same as when Lincoln was elected to his first term

Fred ™

November 12th, 2012
10:00 pm

Wow. Tiberius called me a felon and a tax cheat on Kyle’s blog. I think that’s a little over the top………..

RF

November 12th, 2012
10:03 pm

“If it happens it’s more likely to end up the same as when Lincoln was elected to his first term”

Very very possible. Sadly, I don’t know if the Republican party can pull it’s right-wing back into the fold, and I hear rumblings from young republicans who don’t have any idea how to deal with them, but want the party to move back towards center some. I have friends, even a few on the social far-right who are tired of the party bickering. A lot of the leadership right now is showing willingness to negotiate and take a more moderate approach. I just wonder how many regiestered party members in the citizenry will support such a move. I suspect the far-right will separate itself and slowly dwindle, but it will take a while.

RF

November 12th, 2012
10:06 pm

“Tiberius called me a felon and a tax cheat”

Seems they’d like to lock us all up for daring to think that their view of the country just might be wrong.

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
10:07 pm

“A lot of the leadership right now is showing willingness to negotiate and take a more moderate approach”

I’m afraid I’m more sceptical than you are. All I would say is they TALK like they’re willing to negotiate. I’m witholding judgement until I see what actions they take…in the form of bills presented and how the votes work out on them

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
10:11 pm

“Seems they’d like to lock us all up for daring to think that their view of the country just might be wrong”

Yes, some of them certainly project an instinct of that kind

Doggone/GA

November 12th, 2012
10:13 pm

Got another early day tomorrow…night all

bob

November 12th, 2012
10:18 pm

RF, we are a global economy and corporations have to compete. In case you are not informed. America has the highest corp tax rate in the world. Corporations are making money overseas and can keep the money abroad or pay the obscene tax rates. You can whine all you want but punitive taxes do not help. You want a better economy then quit punishing people for wanting to make money. You may recall when a few years back the democrats came up with the luxury tax on yachts. Dems told us the rich should pay more and how many millions the tax would raise and raised the tax. After many people lost their jobs, congress repealed the tax. Go ahead and whine but corporations owe you nothing. Bring the tax in line with other countries and more money will come home, until then that money will stay overseas.

Jm

November 12th, 2012
10:23 pm

Democrats may just drive America over the cliff

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 12th, 2012
10:25 pm

You want a better economy then quit punishing people for wanting to make money.

Supply side nonsense.

A better economy comes from consumer demand.

JamVet

November 12th, 2012
10:27 pm

RF

November 12th, 2012
10:32 pm

bob: we also have a LOT of deductions,exclusions, expenses, etc. that corporations are allowed to take to “reduce” their actual profits. I do have some working knowledge of what businesses go through to reduce their profits to reduce tax liability, and it’s a messy, complicated ordeal. I’m not talking about punishing people for making money. The tax code needs overhauling, and sooner rather than later. The tax increase I’m supporting is on individual income. And it’s not right that a corporate CEO, via deductions, etc., can end up paying a lower effective tax rate than many of us in the middle class. Either we do the hard work of reforming the code and eliminating some of the elusive means many use to avoid taxation of their individual incomes or we have to raise the rate. Raising the rate is the short-term fix. We haven’t reformed the code in part because too many don’t want to give up the deductions they can take that reduce their taxable income because losing some of those deductions would cost them a LOT more than a simple rate increase. Options you see to that?

getalife

November 12th, 2012
10:33 pm

Our President won so his plans won.

Two thumpins means your plans lost.

Deal with it cons.

RF

November 12th, 2012
10:34 pm

“Democrats may just drive America over the cliff”

Seems we’ve had that discussion many many times, and technically it WAS the Republicans who fast-tracked us into the single worst recession since the 1930’s…and you’ll always own that one.

JamVet

November 12th, 2012
10:35 pm

Democrats may just drive America over the cliff.

Perhaps, but unlike Flip & Eddie at least they’ll get the chance!

And given the recent really bad predictions around here lately (71’s Romney Landslide call…LOL), I might be incline to regroup and keep my mouth shut for awhile…

But hey, we can’t all be damn near perfect like I was this time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL84jPY829I

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 12th, 2012
10:35 pm

I am sure we can close a few more schools to give those poor overburden yacht owners a break…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 12th, 2012
10:37 pm

Seems we’ve had that discussion many many times, and technically it WAS the Republicans who fast-tracked us into the single worst recession since the 1930’s…and you’ll always own that one.

Clinton and his economic team have fingerprints on that as well.

RF

November 12th, 2012
10:37 pm

“A better economy comes from consumer demand”

And for some unexplainable reason, many of the ‘consumers’ posting here LOVE to complain about their god-awful taxes and how much a gallon of gas costs, but conveniently forget that if you give the consumers less to spend, then the whole encomomy slows down at some point. The simple fact is that middle-class incomes have flatlined for decades while the top earners have enjoyed steady, healthy increases. Sooner or later the house of cards falls when those at the base of it spend less.

RF

November 12th, 2012
10:39 pm

“Clinton and his economic team have fingerprints on that as well”

Oh yes they do. That is my one major criticism of his administration. They presided over and perhaps even encouraged the deregulation that ran rampant in the next decade. They helped set the stage and the jesters jumped on it and had a wild time.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 12th, 2012
10:41 pm

lets take this whoopin out for a spin.

Papa John Shmatterhorn, Shmatterly, whatever cutting workers hrs
and says pizza is going up because of Obamacare – cutting hrs
and benefits, raising your price for pizza, while givin away 2mil of
them on NFL teevee.

Let’s do a Chik-Fil-A in reverse. We’ve about shut em down here
at da beach. NO PAPA JOHNS EVER AGAIN.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 12th, 2012
10:44 pm

NO PAPA JOHNS EVER AGAIN.

Unlike Chik-Fil-A, I have never sampled a Pap John’s pizza.

Am I missing something?

JamVet

November 12th, 2012
10:47 pm

NAFTA, Glass-Steagle, turning a blind eye to one of modern history’s biggest corporate crime waves and reducing disability, old-age and food-stamp assistance for millions of children in working families?

Yeah, no wonder the GOPers think OK of Slick Willy as a prez.

Me? Not so much.

Although at least he knew how to fight a war without screwing it up from beginning to end…

Oscar

November 12th, 2012
10:54 pm

Democrats may just drive America over the cliff.

________

If it happens, will be a joint effort. GOP controls the House.
Will be a bipartisan effort to keep us from going off the fiscal cliff or keeping it from happening.

Oscar

November 12th, 2012
10:55 pm

Am I missing something?

____

Just another bad pizza.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 12th, 2012
10:58 pm

Oscar

Kinda what I figured. I try to buy from local mom and pop pizzerias.

Or make my own.

I let Boboli do the crust, though.

Oscar

November 12th, 2012
10:58 pm

JamVet

November 12th, 2012
10:47 pm

_____

In Clinton’s defense, the House and Congress were GOP. He made the best deal he could.
Glass-Steagle, I think the repeal vote was almost unanimous. Everyone was fooled on that one. It’s repeal may have been one of the worst mistakes of the last fifty years.

RF

November 12th, 2012
11:02 pm

St. Simons: I have to laugh at those blowhards threatening to raise prices or shut down over it. Go ahead and treat your employees bad and raise prices- you’ll be out of business soon anyway. Rather than give up one dime of big-dollar paydays to management and offer something that might encourage employees to work harder and actually want to do well at their jobs and keep their jobs, they’ll settle for cutting hours, lowering morale, and in the end hurting their bottom line worse because they’ll have fewer dedicated employees who will produce an even worse product.

Papa’s not such a bad pizza. Better than Pizza Hut and Domino’s I reckon.

Jm

November 12th, 2012
11:03 pm

“Just another bad pizza.”

Snob

barking frog

November 12th, 2012
11:03 pm

Democrats may just drive America over the cliff.
……………………………………………………..
and Republicans will be on the back of the bus where Obama sent them.

RF

November 12th, 2012
11:05 pm

“It’s repeal may have been one of the worst mistakes of the last fifty years”

I have to agree with that!! That was the beginning of the unraveling that took ten years more or less to complete. But rather than learn from history, folks are sqawkin’ about overregulating Wall St.

Fred ™

November 12th, 2012
11:35 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 12th, 2012
10:58 pm

Oscar

Kinda what I figured. I try to buy from local mom and pop pizzerias.

Or make my own.

I let Boboli do the crust, though.
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That’s a good damn idea. When I finish this remodel I’l have you over and we can do up some pizza’s on the green egg. We’ll either let Boboli do the crust or we can try USinUK’s recipe………
and don’t none of ya’s get stupid over the recipe name lol

http://redskitchendiaries.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/date-night-pizza/

Fred ™

November 12th, 2012
11:37 pm

Jm

November 12th, 2012
11:03 pm

“Just another bad pizza.”

Snob
+++++++++++++++++++++

Not really. I’ve never had a good Papa John’s pizza. I get food from Papa John’s less often than I do from Chik fila and I HATE Chik FilA lol.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 12th, 2012
11:56 pm

I don’t care if its a good or bad pizza or not.
It is a very bad man at the head of it, and I want to use my free speech
to help him crash & burn, and let a decent person running a decent
company fill that niche. If a con can do it, we will do it bettah.
freeeee mahket babeeeee.

The best way to beat somebody is at their own game.
Trust the indian on that one.

Atlantan

November 13th, 2012
12:02 am

I predict Republicans cave – taxes go up only on $250k or more, cap gains and inheritance. Spending isn’t cut at all, maybe growth of it, but not real cuts. 4 years from now we are looking at $22trillion in debt and left is openly stating the rich aren’t paying their fair share……

Fred ™

November 13th, 2012
12:21 am

Atlantan: You also predicted that Romney would win the Presidential election did you not? You don;thave a very good track record on your predictions. I hope you didn’t quit your day job.

Fred ™

November 13th, 2012
12:24 am

St. Simon’s: I agree. Screw them. “Papa John’ has a net worth of at least a quarter billion dollars.He’s going to screw his under paid employees and never lose a dime. I would boycott him but like I said, I think his product sucks and don’t buy it anyway.

Dr. Price

November 13th, 2012
12:25 am

Liberals are like roaches……you turn on a light & they scatter for cover!
Benghazi 4 Watergate 0

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 13th, 2012
1:00 am

I think they’ll reach a deal before the trade deadline -

for Puerto Rico to become the 50th state, and Georgia will
become a banana republic possession.

Just Saying..

November 13th, 2012
4:55 am

Republicans.
The best thing Democrats have going for them…

stands for decibels

November 13th, 2012
5:58 am

mornin’.

I’m basically on the same page as Atrios who, ’round midnight, posted:

Kind Of Obvious

But I haven’t seen it said yet. Looks like a corrupt abuse of the surveillance state took down the CIA chief.

HILARIOUS

And no, I haven’t seen anyone else come right out and say this yet, either.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 13th, 2012
6:00 am

Joe Hussein Mama

November 13th, 2012
9:24 am

RB — “That ^^^^^^^ pretty much sums up a conversation with little lying Joey.”

Oh, Punkin, I haven’t lied to you *yet.* But I’ll be sure to let you know when I ever do. (giggling) :D

“Here’s a tip for you little lying Joey”

Here’s a tip for you, RB. You’re not *nearly* as smart as you think you are. Nor are you particularly honest. (snicker) :D

“just about everything posted here by everybody is an OPINION.”

Well that’s just your *opinion,* RB. (cackling with glee) :D

“Somehow, IMO, you seem to think your opinions are all valid”

Wrong again, RB. (laughing, pointing) :D

I’ve neither said nor thought any such thing — ever — on this blog or elsewhere.

“while others opinions need to be proven or verified in some way.”

Shrug. If you’re going to make up bulldada thoughts and opinions and then make out like other posters *actually* said or believe the crap you fabricate for them, then *yes,* you certainly *do* need to prove or verify your garbage.

You repeatedly make assertions about what others think, say and believe, and your excuse is ‘well, that’s just my opinion?’ You sound like Doom and is ‘i wuz only jokin’ excuse. :roll:

“Sorry little lying Joey, it doesn’t work that way.”

Well that’s good, dishonest RB, because that’s neither what I think nor expect.

BTW, you weren’t ever in the military, were you? Because you have absolutely LOUSY aim. (giggling) :D

“Big difference….. that’s funny as heck!!!”

Intelligent people can see the difference, which is why it comes as no surprise to me that you don’t. (laughing, pointing) :D

Joe Hussein Mama

November 13th, 2012
9:26 am

RB — “My example didn’t say anything about having 2 kids and a wife or 3 kids. You added those things.”

You’re one to complain about others ‘adding things,’ RB. :roll:

Joe Hussein Mama

November 13th, 2012
9:31 am

Nunna Yobinnes — Interesting that you laugh it off as delusional. How else could you explain it?”

You need to look back at what was said. Let’s go to the tape!

“RB — “I realize you liberals want to punish successful people for having money”

JHM – “Delusional troll is delusional. (laughing)”

Now, who said anything about ‘punishing’ successful people? And it’s not *just* successful people who have money. My wife’s best friend from college is so filthy stinking rich that if I told you his last name, you would *immediately* know how his family made its money — but he had nothing whatsoever to do with it and he doesn’t work in the family business. So how’s he “successful,” exactly?

“I want entitlement programs and I want someone else to pay for it.”

And how’s that ‘punishing,’ exactly?

“Not delusional at all.”

Of course it is. That ‘punishment’ thing is just a dog-whistle for the conservatives to pick up on.

“Democrats hate successful people that don’t need government assistance to prosper.”

And there’s the delusional part. See, now you’ve caught it as well. :D

Joe Hussein Mama

November 13th, 2012
9:34 am

Nunna Yobinnes — “Just like Democrats. Ignore substance, concentrate on semantics.”

If you can’t be specific with your terms, your math, etc., then don’t expect to be treated seriously.

Also known as Thulsa’s Law.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 13th, 2012
9:37 am

Nunna Yobinnes — “Like I saw on one of these discussions, I’ve never gotten a paycheck from a poor employer.”

Really? That’s strange. Because we hear on here all day long that increasing taxes on families making over $250K will be the death of small businesses.

Sounds to me like either those small businessmen are poor-mouthing the rest of us, or else your argument just ran off the rails.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 13th, 2012
10:23 am

Kamchak – No, I don’t read minds, but I can read prior posts. Why would you assume I was trying to read minds?

JHM – Raising taxes on small business holders might result in more unemployment for the workers.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 13th, 2012
4:02 pm

Nunna Yobinnes — “JHM – Raising taxes on small business holders might result in more unemployment for the workers.”

I’m sure you’ve never seen me say it (unless. of course, you’re simply a sockpuppet for an election-embarrassed regular here), but I have no problem at all extending tax breaks to businesses for creating jobs and filling them with *American* workers.

Conversely, I have no problem with *withdrawing* tax breaks from companies that create jobs overseas — even to the point of offsetting *other* beneficial tax breaks they would otherwise receive.

If a business can’t be bothered to create jobs for Americans, then they should have no expectation of receiving tax breaks from those selfsame Americans.

Mick

November 13th, 2012
7:55 pm

**Most here have turned this country into a euro-socialist cesspool that patriots can’t recognize**.

**I’m not investing. I’m not hiring. I have no idea how much my taxe$ will be going up come January 2013 and beyond**

What in the hell kind of Americans are you? Whiners and babbies.

When your buddy the bushman got re-upped, we mourned and moved on. It all ended exactly as everyone predicted – bankrupt! That’s right, four short years ago bush left this country in shambles.

Bill orivis, do you really profit over 250k in your plumbing business? If not, don’t worry and if you do, make more money instead of retreating into your shed and pulling the covers over your head, mommy isn’t there…

Unbelievable….respect needs to be earned, not given.

Truth

November 14th, 2012
3:53 pm

Price will fail in the house and in the Senate if he keeps this up. He was opposed by a no-name Dem in this years election and Mr. No-name garnered a healthy % of the vote… A true mandate on what people think of him and his hard line stances. Price needs to work together to get some things done and stop drawing lines in the sand like a five year old.

jasc77

November 15th, 2012
12:46 pm

What entitlement do Republicans want to delete?

United States Government Entitlement Programs:
529 or Coverdell
Home Mortgage Interest Deduction
Hope or Lifetime Learning Tax Credit
Student Loans
Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit
Earned Income Tax Credit
Social Security–Retirement & Survivors
Pell Grants
Unemployment Insurance
Veterans Benefits
G.I. Bill
Medicare
Head Start
Social Security Disability
SSI–Supplemental Security Income
Medicaid
Welfare/Public Assistance
Government Subsidized Housing
Food Stamps