An early, disguised hint of Petraeus affair?
UPDATE deserving of a “Seriously?!”
From the Washington Post:
“The collapse of the dazzling career of CIA Director David H. Petraeus was triggered when a woman whom he was having an affair with sent threatening e-mails to another woman close to him, according to three senior law enforcement officials with knowledge of the episode.
The recipient of the e-mails was so frightened that she went to the FBI for protection and help tracking down the sender, according to the officials. The FBI investigation traced the threats to Paula Broadwell, a former military officer and a Petraeus biographer, and uncovered explicit e-mails between Broadwell and Petraeus, the officials said….
The identity of the woman who received the e-mails was not disclosed, and the nature of her relationship with Petraeus is unknown. The law enforcement officials said the e-mails indicated that Broadwell perceived the other woman as a threat to her relationship with Petraeus.”
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Back in July, the “Ethicist” column in the New York Times Magazine published a strange, anonymous letter that in hindsight probably set many a tongue wagging in Washington, D.C., and is doing so again in light of recent news events.
Here’s the letter:
My wife is having an affair with a government executive. His role is to manage a project whose progress is seen worldwide as a demonstration of American leadership. (This might seem hyperbolic, but it is not an exaggeration.) I have met with him on several occasions, and he has been gracious. (I doubt if he is aware of my knowledge.) I have watched the affair intensify over the last year, and I have also benefited from his generosity. He is engaged in work that I am passionate about and is absolutely the right person for the job. I strongly feel that exposing the affair will create a major distraction that would adversely impact the success of an important effort. My issue: Should I acknowledge this affair and finally force closure? Should I suffer in silence for the next year or two for a project I feel must succeed? Should I be “true to my heart” and walk away from the entire miserable situation and put the episode behind me?
NAME WITHHELD
As Chuck Klosterman, author of the ethics column, noted in his perceptive response, “The fact that you’re willing to accept your wife’s infidelity for some greater political good is beyond honorable. In fact, it’s so over-the-top honorable that I’m not sure I believe your motives are real. Part of me wonders why you’re even posing this question, particularly in a column that is printed in The New York Times… I halfway suspect you’re writing this letter because you want specific people to read this column and deduce who is involved and what’s really going on behind closed doors (without actually addressing the conflict in person). That’s not ethical, either.”
– Jay Bookman
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Georgia
November 11th, 2012
11:27 am
Veterans’ Day. My dad. Air Force. Flew Gooney Birds in ‘Nam. Jugs in ‘44. Sabers in ‘51. He said he never landed or took off in Vietnam without someone on the ground throwing up small arms junk at him. Bravest man I ever knew. I could probably take a couple of incidents of flak before I put in for ground duty. He served an entire year in Nam in 1969-1970. He did his duty as God gave him the light to see that duty. He never wavered in his faith in both God and Country. He was conservative. He was disappointed in me, of course, and when I played his nurse for the last six months of his life, he let me know every single day just what a total failure he thought I was/am. But it didn’t matter. It was me or a nursing home, and no veteran, who flew combat missions in three wars, is going to a nursing home if I can help it. It was a privilege to assist him, make him comfortable, cook his breakfasts and dinners, (he rarely wanted lunch), and just plain appreciate him.
Thanks Veterans of America.
DannyX
November 11th, 2012
11:28 am
“Could you imagine Bill Clinton resigning over dishonor to his wife…… 1st of all you have to HAVE morals to have dishonor.”
And yet Newt Gingrich easily won the Republican primary here in Georgia.
Also, the diaper wearing Senator Vitter easily won re-election in La. I guess Republicans have no morals.
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
11:39 am
“I guess Republicans have no morals.”
They don’t practice what they preach
paulo977
November 11th, 2012
11:51 am
MICK …..
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Thought you would like this
http://nymag.com/news/frank-rich/gop-denial-2012-11/
1164 more days
November 11th, 2012
11:51 am
You heard it first here LOL
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
12:06 pm
1164 days for what?
Recon 0311 2533
November 11th, 2012
12:15 pm
Georgia,
You’re certainly no failure. God Bless
Georgia
November 11th, 2012
12:19 pm
Broadwell interviewed Patraeus for her book. Was her first question, “Boxers or Briefs?”
Jefferson
November 11th, 2012
12:32 pm
To make political hay of this solves little.
JamVet
November 11th, 2012
12:39 pm
1164, welcome back. I was wondering where you’d been!
Georgia, you are a good son. You should be proud of what you did. I don’t even know you and I am…
I have prayed for America, I was made for America
It’s in my blood and in my bones
By the dawn’s early light, by all I know is right
We’re going to reap what we have sown
As if freedom was a question of might
As if loyalty was black and white
You hear people say it all the time
“My country wrong or right”
I want to know what that’s got to do
With what it takes to find out what’s true
With everyone from the President on down
Trying to keep it from you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxKBRVGnfWM
Mary Elizabeth
November 11th, 2012
12:44 pm
In appreciation of all veterans, today, including all of those veterans who contribute to this blog, and in memory of my father, brother, uncles and aunt, cousins, as well as my two husbands, I say, “Thank you. Well done. Much appreciated.”
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 11th, 2012
1:12 pm
Well, it was just a couple years on Guam and I’m awful glad I was there before it was in danger of tipping over, but I served. Anyhow, happy Veterans Day and thanks to my fellow vets. My years were a introduction to getting my azz kicked, and if you’re a solid Republican today, you’re thankful what you got Tuesday wasn’t anything new to you.
Have a good Sabbath everybody and if you’re a man be sure and keep it in your pants. You see what straying from the straight and narrow did for this Petraeus. There’s all kind of tempting women out there and they’ll grab your soul and send you to a dark place quicker than a New York minute.
getalife
November 11th, 2012
1:26 pm
Happy Veterans Day and enjoy the food.
Welcome to the surgery club GMare.
Several here are in that club.
Get well and blog soon.
Carl
November 11th, 2012
1:48 pm
Since this was known for at least two months prior to the election, what wait until after the President is re-elected to resign?
The Most Interesting Man in the World
November 11th, 2012
1:50 pm
Stay thirsty my friend.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
1:54 pm
You knew about this 2 months ago Carl? Why didn’t you speak up?
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
1:56 pm
Is Hillary going to resign? Does anyone know? I don’t recall hearing about her plans for this second term of the Obama presidency. What better job could she get? Maybe she will wait until one of the Senate positions in New York is up for election and toss her hat in then……….
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 11th, 2012
1:57 pm
As a veteran, I would like to sincerely give thanks to all of the working folks who paid my way through colledge, provided food and shelter, and kept me in decent automobiles ………..while I “served”.
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Considering the TSA, the FBI, the CIA, the DEA, the ATF, the NSA, the ubiquitious SWAT teams, warrentless phone tapping, NDAA, the Patriot Act, road checks/radars, Obama/Romney, (and their respective supporters), SOP Nationwide unrinanyliss,Coorporatized HealthCare, empire, Kill-lists, etc……………I would like to apologize for your wasted money.
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Wave that flag until you’re blue in the face,
there’re isn’t any freedom here.
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getalife
November 11th, 2012
1:59 pm
“there’re isn’t any freedom here.”
You are free to post that crap.
getalife
November 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
Fred,
Yes she is retiring from politics.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 11th, 2012
2:02 pm
Fred
She always maintained that she would retire.
She’ll probably stick around to help out her replacement.
getalife
November 11th, 2012
2:04 pm
Fred,
Kerry or Rice will replace her.
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
2:04 pm
“Since this was known for at least two months prior to the election, what wait until after the President is re-elected to resign?”
Well, Patraeus knew about it even longer than that. But the answer to your question seems easy to me: to keep it from becoming part of the campaigning when it had nothing to do with either candidate.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:05 pm
Wave that flag until you’re blue in the face,
there’re isn’t any freedom here.
You need money for a ticket? Luggage? Help packing? A ride to the airport? I’ll happily give you any or all if your traitorous ass will renounce your citizenship and LEAVE never to come back. I’m tired of you traitors bringing down my Country and trashing our President. Go away happy, go away sad, go away mad, I don’t care, just get your traitorous ass out of here.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:06 pm
thanks. Gosh I hope it’s not Kerry. I never liked that little lap poodle for rich women……….
deegee
November 11th, 2012
2:07 pm
I really think that the people that worked closely with Patraeus and witnessed his goo-goo eyes when in the presence of his “biographer” knew exactly what was going on between them. I’m sure it was water cooler conversation for long before the FBI got involved. Trying to understand what goes on in the brain of a four star general that throws away his career and his reputation for a piece of azz is way too much for me.
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
2:08 pm
Fred – you overuse that word traitor until it’s coming to have no real meaning here. Criticizing this country is NOT being a traitor, no matter how much you wish it was.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:10 pm
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
2:08 pm
Fred – you overuse that word traitor until it’s coming to have no real meaning here. Criticizing this country is NOT being a traitor, no matter how much you wish it was.
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Thank you for your input. I don’t know how I have lived without your sage wisdom. I didn’t realize I was supposed to run all my posts past you for editing. I don’t have to pay you for the unwanted service do I?
Until you grow the sense to understand what I am doing, you probably shouldn’t criticize it.
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
“Until you grow the sense to understand what I am doing, you probably shouldn’t criticize it”
Criticizing YOU isn’t traitorous either.
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
2:17 pm
Oh, and BTW “Until you grow the sense to understand what I am doing” reeks of “you’re too stupid to understand my message”
Now…where have I heard THAT before?
getalife
November 11th, 2012
2:23 pm
Good game Falcons.
getalife
November 11th, 2012
2:27 pm
“KRISTOL CAVES: HIGHER TAXES ON RICH ‘WON’T KILL THE COUNTRY’” P
Reality is setting in.
Real Scootter
November 11th, 2012
2:28 pm
Good game Falcons.
The saints may break our streak getalife.But I hope not!
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:28 pm
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
2:17 pm
Oh, and BTW “Until you grow the sense to understand what I am doing” reeks of “you’re too stupid to understand my message”
Now…where have I heard THAT before?
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You have stated that you lack the ability to understand things that shouldn’t be taken literally and don’t see most jokes on this site. Those are your own words, not mine. As such and given your post it would seem that obvipous that no, you really DON’T have the ability to understand what I am doing. I have no desire to ’splain it to you. Target someone else for your daily fight. I’m not interested. I will also continue to post exactly what I want to whether it has your approval or not. Thanks for the concern though, I’m touched.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:30 pm
“Until you grow the sense to understand what I am doing, you probably shouldn’t criticize it”
Criticizing YOU isn’t traitorous either.
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No one said it was. Here you go again putting words in my mouth. You really should stop doing that, you aren’t very good at it. You seem much better at jumping to conclusions so maybe stick to your strong suit……..
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
2:32 pm
“You have stated that you lack the ability to understand things that shouldn’t be taken literally and don’t see most jokes on this site”
So, I got it…whenever I see you call someone a traitor I can take it that your joking. Glad you explained that. Now I can pay even less attention when you say that. Thanks for the explanation.
getalife
November 11th, 2012
2:35 pm
Real Scooter,
It will be a close one.
The Saints are improving with every game.
I think we will win one and the Falcons will win one this year.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:35 pm
Amen getalife, a really good game. I just wish Roddy would catch some TD passes lol, he’s on my fantasy team.
indigo
November 11th, 2012
2:36 pm
Fred
I used to think you were a big pain in the neck. Now, I have a much lower opinion of you.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 11th, 2012
2:36 pm
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:05 pm
Wave that flag until you’re blue in the face,
there’re isn’t any freedom here.
You need money for a ticket? Luggage? Help packing? A ride to the airport? I’ll happily give you any or all if your traitorous ass will renounce your citizenship and LEAVE never to come back. I’m tired of you traitors bringing down my Country and trashing our President. Go away happy, go away sad, go away mad, I don’t care, just get your traitorous ass out of here.
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I’m not going anywhere.
And the future will tell who’s a traitor.
AN Obama/Bush war criminal supporter…………or the decent folks.
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Live it.learn it………know it.
getalife
November 11th, 2012
2:37 pm
Fred,
Look like a tight end scoring game.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:37 pm
So, I got it…whenever I see you call someone a traitor I can take it that your joking. Glad you explained that. Now I can pay even less attention when you say that. Thanks for the explanation.
Nope, you don’t “got it” unless you are talking about an attitude and that you have plenty of. You keep exhibiting that not only can’t you understand, you don’t want to. You just want to fight. Maybe you should invest in a first person shooter to help channel your hostility.
Real Scootter
November 11th, 2012
2:38 pm
I think we will win one and the Falcons will win one this year.
I think you have it nailed getalife.
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
2:41 pm
“Nope, you don’t “got it” unless you are talking about an attitude and that you have plenty of”
Said the pot to the kettle. You more or less quoted me as saying I have a very literal mind and don’t always get jokes. That is true. So why even bring it up if you WEREN’T joking. I will take you at your word. You said I don’t always get jokes, therefore you were joking.
getalife
November 11th, 2012
2:42 pm
Real Scooter,
I am hoping to see the Falcons play in the Super Bowl this year.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:43 pm
I’m not going anywhere.
And the future will tell who’s a traitor.
AN Obama/Bush war criminal supporter…………or the decent folks.
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Live it.learn it………know it.
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I see. Our Commander in Chief, our President, the most powerful man in the world is the traitor. Yeah, you folks have been saying that for almost 4 years now. Does it make you feel like a real man to get on the internet and diminish our President like this? Do you somehow think it makes us as a nation look grand when you and your talk show/fox puppet masters do it all the time? Somehow you are NOT emboldening terrorists? I mean if you have so little respect for our Country and the highest office in our Country, why would a terrorist?
Naw, I’d say it’s YOU who are the terrorist, the one who has done nothing but attempt to destroy our Country and demean us for the last 4 years. You will NEVER do anything to help this Country unless some asshat who is acceptable to your puppet masters is elected, which the way things are looking will be never. Instead you will work against us.
And thanks to our Constitution, your treachery is legal. Ain’t life grand? I think it is, but you are probably too obtuse and filled with hate to see the irony.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 11th, 2012
2:45 pm
I used to think you were a big pain in the neck. Now, I have a much lower opinion of you.
I think you should sit down and have a beer or two with Fred before you reach that conclusion.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:47 pm
You said I don’t always get jokes, therefore you were joking.
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Post the WHOLE quote, not just parts of it. There is a whole world out there that is oblique. Lessons that can be learned by emphasizing the absurd. Look up the definition or Irony.
Here I’ll post it for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:49 pm
indigo
November 11th, 2012
2:36 pm
Fred
I used to think you were a big pain in the neck. Now, I have a much lower opinion of you.
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Thank you. I never gave you a thought at all so I can’t say I’m all crushed or anything.
Real Scootter
November 11th, 2012
2:49 pm
I am hoping to see the Falcons play in the Super Bowl this year.
Me too getalife.I’m keeping my fingers crossed!
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
2:50 pm
Man, couldn’t you Saints wait til NEXT week to get your crap together lol?
It’s funny because there is a lot of animosity between the two teams, but I like the Saints every week EXCEPT when they are playing the Falcons………
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 11th, 2012
2:50 pm
Fred ™ —–
And thanks to our Constitution, your treachery is legal. Ain’t life grand? I think it is, but you are probably too obtuse and filled with hate to see the irony.
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I’ll leave the hate to you mooooslim bashers, neo-cons/progressives, and statists.
The majority of people only want to be left alone.
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And as far as irony………..i never kilt commies like you bragged about..the same commies that are our biggest creditors now.
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I suppose THAT was to protect our freedoms.
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lol
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give it up dude.
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
2:53 pm
“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony”
It’s possible to overuse irony too…until is loses it’s meaning.
getalife
November 11th, 2012
2:55 pm
Thomas,
Your party is to blame on loss of freedom.
Why blame others ?
To make yourself feel better?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
November 11th, 2012
2:58 pm
chin up, cons.
you’ll always have AM radio and Leave It To Beaver reruns on cable.
the rest of us are moving forward.
next time, you’ll listen to the crazy indian.
you ain’t seen nothin – just wait til after December 2012
getalife
November 11th, 2012
2:58 pm
Fred,
We have a conspiracy theory against the NFL not wanting the Saints to play in the Super Bowl because it is in New Orleans.
The NFL stacked the deck against the Saints this year.
Real Scootter
November 11th, 2012
3:01 pm
Fred,
I think the Falcons may have to pull another rabbit out of the hat to get by the Saints today.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
3:02 pm
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
2:53 pm
“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony”
It’s possible to overuse irony too…until is loses it’s meaning.
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It’s possible to over use nagging as well.
Or perhaps one of these “traitors” will see my over use and realize how completely and utterly stupid they sound. One never knows. you try YOUR way, and I’ll stick with mine.
I personally like putting stupid back in the faces of the stupid. I love to see how much more stupid they will use in *defense* of their original stupidity. Look at Thomas for instance. Look at his 2:50. Can you see even a shred of lucidity in that response? If so explain it to me. I see a post so stupid that there IS no way to respond to it. One can only shake a head in wonder……………
getalife
November 11th, 2012
3:05 pm
Real Scooter,
I will not count Ryan out.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
3:05 pm
Real Scootter: It’s gonna take more than a rabbit the way it;’s looking now. And to make things worse, I have Eli Manning as my QB and he just tossed a pick 6 bringing HIS point total for the day down to 3.38. Last week he only gave me 3.0. I lost to the worst team in our fantasy league lol.
Real Scootter
November 11th, 2012
3:15 pm
I don’t know about all that fantasy stuff Fred but see getalife’s 3:05
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
3:24 pm
Tony Gonzales is just awesome. He’s like 300 years old, I think he has grand kids playing in the NFL and he is STILL tough as hell. I’m about to get him on my team I think the guy who has him wants to trade him and Crabtree to me for Gronkowski.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
3:25 pm
RS: This is my first year doing fantasy. I’m only doing so so because I’m a Falcons fan not so much of a pro football fan. I only watch the Falcons consistently. Unlike college where I’ll watch everything i can.
getalife
November 11th, 2012
3:35 pm
“Paula Broadwell, the woman reported to be having an affair with CIA Director David Petraeus, sent harassing emails to State Department official, the AP reported.
Jill Kelley, the woman who received emails from Broadwell that prompted her to alert FBI, reportedly works as a State Department military liaison” AP
All the facts will drip out on this one.
Real Scootter
November 11th, 2012
3:36 pm
Unlike college where I’ll watch everything i can.
Same here Fred.I’m even one of those wierdos that would rather watch the little league world series than the pro series!
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
3:37 pm
“All the facts will drip out on this one”
Indeed they will. CNN is now reporting that Cantor knew of the affair
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/11/us/petraeus-cia-resignation/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
getalife
November 11th, 2012
3:44 pm
“CNN is now reporting that Cantor knew of the affair”
Wow, could have used that to defeat his reelection.
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
3:48 pm
“Wow, could have used that to defeat his reelection”
I’m not sure I get that. Do you mean Cantor’s re-election?
getalife
November 11th, 2012
3:51 pm
“Cantor’s re-election?
Yes.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
3:51 pm
Damn. what a close game. Even IF we score Brees will have almost 2 whole minutes to answer. What a nail biter.
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
3:54 pm
“Yes”
Ok, thanks…and it works both ways. It could have been used to prevent Patraeous being reappointed too. Mutual stand-off, I think.
Real Scootter
November 11th, 2012
3:54 pm
Time to pull that rabbit out Fred!!!!
getalife
November 11th, 2012
4:04 pm
Saints win.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
4:05 pm
Wow. Roddy White quits running on what should have been a TD and Gonzales uncharacteristically misses an easy catch to end the drive and the game.
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
4:05 pm
Great game though.
Real Scootter
November 11th, 2012
4:06 pm
Only the Saints could have broke our streak getalife. Great game wasn’t it? Whew!
getalife
November 11th, 2012
4:12 pm
That was great NFL football.
Real Scootter
November 11th, 2012
4:16 pm
NASCAR time!!!!! Kyle Busch in the lead. Any other rednecks here besides me? lol
getalife
November 11th, 2012
4:19 pm
Alabama lost, LSU won, Louisiana Tech won and headed to a bowl game, Ragin Cajuns almost beat Florida and the Saints win.
Louisiana football had a good week.
josef
November 11th, 2012
4:24 pm
Yow! Bad attitude time on the blog…not that that’s a bad thing when you’re a reactionary like I am.
Now, the word “traitor.” That is patently absurd and hyperbole run amok. Treachery or treacherous? Possibly in the speaker’s opinion, but traitor is a very serious charge and in a country like ours has always had a very, very high bar. Not to bring up the Wah-uh, but even there the charge of treason was not brought to official determination.
As soon as I hear one “side” or the other hurling the charge, my automatic reaction is to put whoever is making the charge on my dumbass list headed, Girlfriend, Please with the sub categories such as silly twit, ignoramus, crackhead, etc.
Otherwise, how the hell are ya?
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
4:27 pm
“That is patently absurd and hyperbole run amok”
but Josef…he’s just being IRONIC. Didn’t you see his explanation?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 11th, 2012
4:29 pm
Otherwise, how the hell are ya?
F*cking fabulous, and yourself?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 11th, 2012
4:29 pm
Before the Benghazi debacle and his affair(s) Petraeus ran to the sound of the guns. Now he runs from them.
HEADLINE: “New details in Petraeus scandal: Woman who received threatening emails revealed”
“A senior military official said the woman is a State Department’s liaison to the military’s Joint Special Operations Command.
The official identified her as 37-year-old Jill Kelley, in Tampa, Fla., according to the Associated Press.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/11/new-details-in-petraeus-scandal-fbi-whistleblower-talked-first-to-house/#ixzz2Bx4i4EyS
getalife
November 11th, 2012
4:31 pm
josef,
What about the petition by the great State of Louisiana to peacefully leave the union?
Are the 2600 Americans that signed that petition traitors?
JamVet
November 11th, 2012
4:32 pm
I just had the most awesome experience.
Ran into the local Kroger and on the way out stopped to give a few bucks to the guys collecting money for veterans. This older gentleman (turns out he was born in 1925, like my mom) and I got to talking and he told me that he served with Patton AND in the Pacific. When I told him that I was a vet (but nothing like him!) he shook my hand and put his arm around my shoulders as I saluted him.
I know the word gets overused sometimes, but to me, he is an American hero!
And my life is richer for having shared a couple of moments of it with him…
josef
November 11th, 2012
4:33 pm
Doggone..
Actually, no, I didn’t see it or even who used it first and in what context, not do I plan to look back and find out. The word itself jumped out and this time it was Girlfriend, Please/subcategory nasty attitude, probably alcohol or drug induced…
getalife
November 11th, 2012
4:36 pm
josef,
How about trump calling for a revolution over the election results?
Is he a traitor.
Or the gop official saying they should “divorce” our government?
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
4:36 pm
“I didn’t see it or even who used it first and in what context, not do I plan to look back and find out”
Well, let’s just say he doesn’t take criticism very well! I don’t like the use of the word cavalierly either. To me it connotes an intent to harm, or actual harm, to this country. There’s nothing in someone criticizin this country, or even vowing to leave it, that comes even close to harm to the country.
josef
November 11th, 2012
4:38 pm
Getalife
Didn’t know about it, but I’ve no real problem with bringing it to public debate since Uncle Sam’s Redheaded step children sure didn’t have a lot of chance to say what they thought in how they came in to begin with…but, then, that was the age of slavery when people were bought and sold as a market product…
Comme les Québécois diraient, je me souviens!
Fred ™
November 11th, 2012
4:40 pm
josef
November 11th, 2012
4:33 pm
Doggone..
Actually, no, I didn’t see it or even who used it first and in what context, not do I plan to look back and find out. The word itself jumped out and this time it was Girlfriend, Please/subcategory nasty attitude, probably alcohol or drug induced…
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You should research it then before you jump to judgement. Doggone lacks the wit to understand, it’s too “subtle” and not literal enough. Two days in a row she has decided I’m her daily bitch at target, I wonder if tomorrow will be a third. Maybe her cycle it off. (THAT will set her off lol, I can hear her head spinning from here).
You could check out my 3:02. Or not. I’m going upstairs now for some girl time and NOT crazy girl time………. sweet little girl child time. SOMEONE has a recipe and school lesson to read lol.
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
4:42 pm
“Doggone lacks the wit to understand, it’s too “subtle” and not literal enough”
See, I’m too stupid to understand his message.
josef
November 11th, 2012
4:43 pm
getalife
As you know, I don’t hold Citizen Trump is very high esteem, but this is, after all, a revolutionary republic lest we forget…one of the reasons that bar is set so high..
A divorce? That’s what Judah P told Jeff Davis to call it…no charge of treason against the latter…that charge, though, was certainly in the works for the scion, of as Andrew Johnson called him, “from a race of traitors.” Was it Cantor calling for a “divorce?” If it was, he might be more careful…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 11th, 2012
4:44 pm
Veteran’s Day Tribute:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pubDy0KOPMI
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
4:45 pm
“but this is, after all, a revolutionary republic lest we forget…one of the reasons that bar is set so high..”
I agree. As I see it, calling for a revolution is not treasonous. Actually starting one would be. But then I’m firmly in the “actions speak louder than words” camp.
josef
November 11th, 2012
4:46 pm
K’chak
In a fine fettle of a mood…
That’s why G-d invented icons…
FRED
josef
November 11th, 2012
4:48 pm
“That’s why G-d invented icons…”
That’s supposed to be addressed to Fred…
josef
November 11th, 2012
4:50 pm
DOGGONE
It’s treason only if you lose…otherwise it’s national heroes!
But one of the things we do lose sight of is that there is revolution against the current regime and there is revolution against the state. Two different balls of wax.
getalife
November 11th, 2012
4:52 pm
“Was it Cantor calling for a “divorce?”
No, but Doggone/GA posted cnn reported he knew about the Patreaus affair.
Doggone/GA
November 11th, 2012
4:53 pm
“Two different balls of wax.”
I would say in attitude, maybe…but if it comes down to actual armed revolution, they they would be the same thing. But definitely not all “revolutions” are armed, by a long shot. (so to speak!)
appleseed
November 11th, 2012
4:54 pm
All In
Broadwell
drip out
You kidding me?