It’s time for Karl Rove to float away in a balloon
Ten years ago, Karl Rove was being celebrated as — was celebrating himself as — the architect of what he called a permanent Republican majority.
Today, not so much.
In the 2012 cycle, Rove spent some $300 million of other people’s money and accomplished not a damn thing with it. These are not people who appreciate spending a lot of money and getting nothing in return. They were led to believe that their money would purchase politicians who would return their phone calls immediately. Even more important, they wanted their investment to instill a good healthy fear in those in Washington who otherwise might cross them.
Instead, they got U.S. Sen.-elect Elizabeth Warren.
Of course, the real Wizard of Oz moment came Election Night on Fox, when Rove performed his epic meltdown over the numbers coming out of Ohio. If that did not permanently damage his reputation more than the losses themselves, it certainly cemented it.
You see, a good political strategist has to be willing to listen dispassionately to what the data tell him. He does not yell angrily at that data, like a distraught husband refusing to believe that his wife just left him. In that moment, Rove exposed himself as the petty figure that he is.
As Dorothy Gale, D-Kansas, famously put it, “Why, you’re not a wizard at all, you’re just a man! And you’re a very bad man for pretending to be a wizard.”
And after that, as I recall, the defrocked wizard floated away in a balloon, unable to steer a new direction because “I don’t know how it works!”
– Jay Bookman
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Regnad Kcin
November 9th, 2012
11:11 am
“Or a sand wich? ”
Q: Why can’t you starve in the desert?
A: Beacuse of all the sand which is there…
My wife mis-understood that one for years, wondering what a “sand witch” was…
getalife
November 9th, 2012
11:12 am
” Republicans are trying, for the third time since he took office, to use economic blackmail to achieve a goal they lack the votes to achieve through the normal legislative process. In particular, they want to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy, even though the nation can’t afford to make those tax cuts permanent and the public believes that taxes on the rich should go up — and they’re threatening to block any deal on anything else unless they get their way. So they are, in effect, threatening to tank the economy unless their demands are met” Krugman
Our President will address these facts today.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 9th, 2012
11:12 am
Fleecing gullible people out of money and spewing propoganda.
Rove should just float on over to the Democrat party.
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After swearing alligence to “the one”, Rove could be a valuable tool for the collective/borg.
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Forward Soviet!
paulo977
November 9th, 2012
11:12 am
Kamchak
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Love your dedication!!!
They BOTH suck
November 9th, 2012
11:13 am
Will Jm and Thulsa comment on the market today?
My apologies if it wasn’t you two, but there certainly were comments in regards to the market the last two days.
Fred ™
November 9th, 2012
11:13 am
At least Hannidy knows he’s an idiot. Now he is trying to fip flop. He says he has “evolved.”
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/sean-hannity-john-boehner-gop-tackle-immigration-reform-142212570–election.html
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 9th, 2012
11:13 am
paulo977
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 9th, 2012
11:13 am
“Maybe he should have watched for 16 minutes instead of 15″
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 9th, 2012
11:14 am
“Rove could be a valuable tool for the collective/borg.”
well, you’re half right … Rove is definitely a tool
Fred ™
November 9th, 2012
11:15 am
Well I’m off to see the wizard……….
getalife
November 9th, 2012
11:15 am
Fred,
They think Latinos will vote gop if they cave on immigration.
The gop are still focused on the next election and not the country.
That is the only change we get from the gop after this thumpin.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 9th, 2012
11:15 am
NBC News reports that very soon after Mitt Romney’s loss on Election Night, the campaign’s “massive infrastructure” began to come down:
“Aides taking cabs home late that night got rude awakenings when they found the credit cards linked to the campaign no longer worked.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
November 9th, 2012
11:16 am
Noooo. No. Hell no. Don’t change a THING, cons. heheh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DehrCHlFUTQ
SwamiDave
November 9th, 2012
11:16 am
As I’ve said – Things are rarely as good or as bad as they seem in the moment.
Rove (and many others) have some introspection to perform in light of the results. Frankly, it now appears that a lot of the money spent on advertising would have been better spent on the “hard work” of identifying your voters and the ground game to get them to the polls. As data continues to arrive, that -more than anything else- appears to be the advantage that the Obama campaign & Democrats held.
-SD
Chester
November 9th, 2012
11:17 am
And please take The Donald with you Karl and GO AWAY!!
AmericaShrugged
November 9th, 2012
11:18 am
Now we get the government 51% of you voted for. I see Obama is talking about some temporary measures to avoid the year-end cliff and having the lame duck congress make any big changes. We’ve had temporary measures, that’s all we’ve gotten from this administration. Extend the tax cuts, add a SS tax cut to it, extend unemployment, increase food stamps, etc. all financed with funny money and more debt to the Chinese. Will we ever actually reduce spending and increase tax revenue?
Brosephus™
November 9th, 2012
11:18 am
Obama, bad for your portfolio…. down 435 points since his election
DJA Jan 20, 2009 …… 8279.63 at opening
DJA Nov 6, 2012 ……. 13,245.68 at closing
That’s an increase of 4966.05 since he was elected. Nov 6th, he was re-elected.
TaxPayer
November 9th, 2012
11:18 am
President Obama will compromise and hike payroll taxes 2%. Republicans will accept elimination of Bush tax cuts for incomes greater than $200k, amongst other things.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 9th, 2012
11:19 am
Frankly, it now appears that a lot of the money spent on advertising would have been better spent on the “hard work” of identifying your voters and the ground game to get them to the polls.
D. English
November 9th, 2012
11:19 am
I guess it is OK for Chris Matthews to say he was so glad we had Hurricane Sandy that has killed people and caused billions in damage. I guess it is OK for the so called Rev Lowery say all white people are going to hell. If you are going to bash Rove and Morris, bash Matthews and the rest of the liberal idiots as well.
Regnad Kcin
November 9th, 2012
11:20 am
“Are you a good witch, or a bad witch?”
I guess he’s Obama’s b… uh, witch, now.
Grasshopper
November 9th, 2012
11:20 am
What are Democrats so upset with Rove for?
Rove’s political tactics mirror Axelrod’s, Burton’s, Goolsbees and others.
Just less successfully — this election cycle anyhow.
Brosephus™
November 9th, 2012
11:20 am
Kam @ 11:10
Beat me to it…
getalife
November 9th, 2012
11:21 am
“I guess it is OK for Chris Matthews”
Same ole con deflection of blame.
Come on cons.
Try something different.
That failed.
Citizen of the World
November 9th, 2012
11:22 am
When Karl Rove floats away in a balloon, let’s hope he takes Dick Cheney with him.
Doggone/GA
November 9th, 2012
11:22 am
“What are Democrats so upset with Rove for?”
Hon, pointing and laughing does NOT constitute being “upset”
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 9th, 2012
11:23 am
“Same ole con deflection of blame.”
yet another reason they lost …
Citizen of the World
November 9th, 2012
11:24 am
Chris Matthews apologized profusely for what he said. Karl Rove makes excuses.
Krystal'sBalls
November 9th, 2012
11:25 am
Long PAST time!
pete
November 9th, 2012
11:26 am
Fred,
“they obviously don’t do much if they were on the golf course during working hours. I never paid MY people to go golfing during the work day, I paid them to WORK. I guess after sending everyone else’s job to China theirs are next. Karma is a BITCH.” – Fred
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It is called enjoying the fruits of your labor. We have worked 20-30 years on the front line PRODUCING jobs for people like you so you can earn a living to put food your table. If it weren’t for people like this, you wouldn’t have a job to go to. You seem to forget that the folks you criticize are the same folks who give you a pay check. Go on and keep knocking ‘em down. Don’t know about you, but I have never worked for a poor man. One day you might see how the business world works, but I doubt it.
Thulsa Doom
November 9th, 2012
11:26 am
They both suck,
You’ve been feeling it. You just didn’t know it. Remember when that economic number came out last month that the avg family lost almost 9% in real purchasing power or $4300 over the last 4 years. Exactly what do you think all that money printing and qe 1 thru 3 is? Its hidden inflation and what is hidden inflation? Its a tax on the economy to pay for the profligate spending. Who does that hidden tax affect the most? Yep. Poor and middle class people. When we discussed this the cons understood this. The libs either did not understand this or didn’t care. They preferred to stick with their bumper sticker sloganeering like “war on women” or “millionaires and billionaires”. When you continue to see purchasing power eroded the next 4 years just remember one thing. You voted for it.
Peadawg
November 9th, 2012
11:26 am
“It’s time for Karl Rove to float away in a balloon”
And take Hannity, Rush, and Coulter with him.
Peadawg
November 9th, 2012
11:28 am
Looks like Hannity’s position on immigration “evolved” just like Obama’s position on gay marriage.
Politics as usual.
King of Planet Kolob
November 9th, 2012
11:28 am
English. It is also OK for Chris Matthews to sincerely apologize.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 9th, 2012
11:28 am
President Obama will compromise and hike payroll taxes 2%
I assume you are referring the the bipartisan bill which temporarily reduced SS withholding on employees from 6.2% to 4.2% (the employer still paid in at 6.2%. This was to last 1 year. It was extended a second year with bipartisan support. This is not Obama hiking payroll taxes. It is allowing them to go back to where they were and probably should have stayed. Just like the Bush temporary tax cuts. Trying to frame this as Obama raising taxes is just plain bovine fecal matter.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 9th, 2012
11:28 am
We have worked 20-30 years on the front line PRODUCING jobs…
Ef your effing jobs.
Start PRODUCING careers, then I’ll take you seriously.
Don’t know about you, but I have never worked for a poor man.
I have.
getalife
November 9th, 2012
11:28 am
The speaker is talking about fixing the loopholes they failed to fix in the past.
Still refusing to listen to the majority on raising taxes on the wealthy.
They will lose the next election too.
Brosephus™
November 9th, 2012
11:29 am
I don’t think anybody’s asked this question yet, but how many of you here voted for “Charles Darwin” in opposition to Rep. Paul Broun? Darwin got 4000 votes, so the odds are that we have at least one blogger here who voted for Darwin.
They BOTH suck
November 9th, 2012
11:29 am
Thulsa
Ok little buddy. Thanks for the info
And over Thurston Howell, you damn right I voted for him.
But I voted for Clinton in 08, if you wanted to know.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 9th, 2012
11:30 am
W. Lynch — “President Obama was re-elected by a majority of the voters. These people understand what he is proposing and have said yes. Karl Rove and those who follow his line of thinking are on the way out. The wise among them should help them along.”
Co-sign. ^^^^^^^
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 9th, 2012
11:30 am
D. English – “I guess it is OK for Chris Matthews to say he was so glad we had Hurricane Sandy that has killed people and caused billions in damage. I guess it is OK for the so called Rev Lowery say all white people are going to hell.”
I guess so, Obama won.
jose
November 9th, 2012
11:31 am
Jay: As a “journalist” and blogger, you of all people should recognize the value of free speech. Just because you don’t like what he says, Karl Rove has a right to say whatever he pleases. As for his pac, you yourself say it didn’t make a difference. Why, then, do you care? If it is not simply because you disagree with Rove, then you should include in your criticism George Soros, the various Democratic Super PACs, labor union political campaign programs funded with mandatory worker contributions, and any other funder or fund aggregator…conservative or liberal. It is intellectually dishonest in my view to pick on Rove while ignoring rep and dem funders and the legal situation which enables their sleazy behavior.
Brosephus™
November 9th, 2012
11:31 am
We have worked 20-30 years on the front line PRODUCING jobs for people like you so you can earn a living to put food your table.
That’s where the wheels fall off the wagon. You don’t PRODUCE jobs for people to work. Your customer base produces jobs. Anybody with common sense business logic knows that. Makes me wonder if you really own a business at all or if you’re simply a poser.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 9th, 2012
11:31 am
“Exactly what do you think all that money printing and qe 1 thru 3 is? Its hidden inflation and what is hidden inflation? Its a tax on the economy to pay for the profligate spending.”
oh, FFS … WHAT inflation??? CPI is 2.0% on the year … that’s NOTHING
Doggone/GA
November 9th, 2012
11:31 am
“but I have never worked for a poor man”
And you’ve never worked for a rich man who got that way WITHOUT the money of customers either.
Get Real
November 9th, 2012
11:31 am
I was watching FOX political coverage and saw what you describe as an “epic meltdown”. Not even close Jay, actually it was kind of interesting to hear the back and forth and how the predictions are actually made…bottom line it was informative..
With that said, I have no problem with the ballon idea but it has to include Chris “Woody” Matthews……
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 9th, 2012
11:31 am
H.R. 6535, The Save America’s National Economy Act
H.R. 6535 would amend the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985 to repeal the sequestration added by the Budget Control Act of 2011.
Simple quick fix and “cliff” goes away.
Still have to fight the battle for the Grand Bargain….
They BOTH suck
November 9th, 2012
11:32 am
“Looks like Hannity’s position on immigration “evolved” just like Obama’s position on gay marriage.
Politics as usual.”
It wont just be Hanitty, watch more than enough Republicans in the House and Senate come around to get an immigration bill signed sometime during 2013.
They can get made all they want when demographic issues are brought up, but at the same time reality is here and they will attempt to adjust accordingly.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 9th, 2012
11:33 am
“Don’t know about you, but I have never worked for a poor man.”
I’ve worked for a millionaire … never again … I’ll always choose to work for someone who is struggling over someone who is not.
Doggone/GA
November 9th, 2012
11:33 am
“Just because you don’t like what he says, Karl Rove has a right to say whatever he pleases”
When did Jay say he didn’t?
woodstockmimi
November 9th, 2012
11:33 am
In reply to “oops” regarding the stock market.
On Dec. 31, 2008, the DJIA was at 8776.
On Nov. 10, 2012, the DJIA is at 12, 843, which is UP 32.14 points and UP from 8776.
Do you mean the DJIA is down 435 points since President Obama’s RE-election?
Because according to math, 12,843 (11/10/12) is more than 8776 (12/31/08) and 12,843 minus 8776 is UP 4067 since President Obama’s FIRST election.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 9th, 2012
11:34 am
Doggone — “Hon, pointing and laughing does NOT constitute being “upset”
I keep telling Doom that, and he doesn’t get it, either.
Get Real
November 9th, 2012
11:35 am
Butch Cassidy (I)
D. English – “I guess it is OK for Chris Matthews to say he was so glad we had Hurricane Sandy that has killed people and caused billions in damage. I guess it is OK for the so called Rev Lowery say all white people are going to hell.”
I guess so, Obama won
I agree, what a sad statement on our society…
Doggone/GA
November 9th, 2012
11:36 am
“I keep telling Doom that, and he doesn’t get it, either”
Yeah, I’ve noticed!
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 9th, 2012
11:37 am
The Cons have decided that they need a ‘whiter’ immigrant invasion
Peadawg
November 9th, 2012
11:37 am
They BOTH suck
November 9th, 2012
11:32 am
I know. I was just picking on Hannity and Obama for using the word “evolved”.
TaxPayer
November 9th, 2012
11:37 am
The only reason Karl even needs a balloon to float away in is because Megyn stuck him with a pin on election night. Poor Karl spewed and sputtered until there was no hot air left in him.
Thulsa Doom
November 9th, 2012
11:39 am
Brocephus,
I spoke with Sean Hanlon last night. He’s the CEO of Hanlon investment research a 3.3 billion dollar professional money management firm. He manages money on an intermediate tend technical analysis basis. He is going to have to check his indicators again but from his comments I gathered that the market is due for a correction. I think its pretty obvious it was triggered in part by the election.
Look before I leap...
November 9th, 2012
11:40 am
Well if the GOP wants to continue down the path of how to keep the brown people from voting, they have 4 years to find figure that out.
Grasshopper
November 9th, 2012
11:41 am
“Hon, pointing and laughing does NOT constitute being “upset””
Quit lying, sweetie.
You’ve been upset with Rove for 12 years now. And will continue to be in the future.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 9th, 2012
11:41 am
Just out of curiosity, did Megyn Fox-person show any signs of being nasty to Rove *prior* to her withering comment about math? Either on election night or before?
I wonder if there was some kind of personal friction there or if she maybe just got tired of him making stuff up.
Peadawg
November 9th, 2012
11:41 am
“I think its pretty obvious it was triggered in part by the election.”
Yeah b/c Democrats kept the Senate/Oval Office while the GOP kept the House. Not many people expect the two sides to work together to avoid January 1st.
They BOTH suck
November 9th, 2012
11:42 am
Peadawg
Got ya and yes both sides will “evolve” when political expediency is needed.
Doggone/GA
November 9th, 2012
11:43 am
“You’ve been upset with Rove for 12 years now”
Got proof? You don’t know me well enough to make that statement.
Regnad Kcin
November 9th, 2012
11:43 am
I wonder in conservatives would react the same if it was Canadians sneaking over the border to “take out jobs”?
Thulsa Doom
November 9th, 2012
11:44 am
Joe mama,
You keep telling me lots of things. And in my wisdom I keep not listening.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 9th, 2012
11:44 am
Doom — “He is going to have to check his indicators again but from his comments I gathered that the market is due for a correction. I think its pretty obvious it was triggered in part by the election.”
FWIW, the market’s been overdue for a correction for months now. I think the election’s beside the point (the correction was coming whether there was an election or not), but I’m sure you and some of our other cons will try to tie it around Obama’s neck the moment it happens.
TaxPayer
November 9th, 2012
11:44 am
East Cobb RINO,
Perhaps you simply lack the negotiating skills needed in order to “work” effectively with the GOP. Obama will raise the payroll taxes and the Republicans will raise the taxes on those making more than $200k. That way everyone gets a tax hike and everyone saves face. And, no real fecal matter was harmed in this face saving approach.
GT
November 9th, 2012
11:44 am
I was captured being the guest in a home Tuesday night, on a trip to the coast, by host who assumed I was one of them. I was forced to watch Fox that night to get any perception of what the election results were. I thought this must be what hell will be like, or that was my first impression as they kept turning the volume up thinking the louder the sound the more their chances of winning. And there on the desk was this little round man with an out of date haircut, Karl Rove, accompanied by a background of people kissing up to the right like they were working their grandmothers to get part of her will. God wanted me to witness this smelt down, I don’t even know the Fox channel number in Atlanta, yet here I was witnessing the full hot aired wind bag that has gotten Bush elected by a minority and then felt like the only blessed human on earth after 9/11 as his short bet on America finally paid off. The man who contributed to the outing of a CIA agent just because she dared tell the truth, and with our man Newt invented money as the third party in politics. Anti intellectuals who in a Charles Manson fashion willed their followers to the lock step of their greed and egomania sicknesses.
As I traveled 16 in South Georgia coming back on Wednesday, I still was stuck in this land of fake reality. Try finding a real radio station on that strip of road; it is like trying to find a cell phone signal. This right wing sickness grows in darkness like bacteria. I finally had to cut the radio off, I was losing my voice yelling at the speaker, farmers were waving at me acting like a nut, they thought I was one of their local politicians.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 9th, 2012
11:45 am
Doom — “And in my wisdom”
Again you make things up. What IS it with you cons this week?
Regnad Kcin
November 9th, 2012
11:45 am
” I think its pretty obvious it was triggered in part by the election.”
*I* think Obama’s re-election is the only thing keeping* your* “correction’ from being twice as bad as *you* think it’s gonna be. Isn’t thinking great?
Brosephus™
November 9th, 2012
11:46 am
I gathered that the market is due for a correction. I think its pretty obvious it was triggered in part by the election.
I don’t know of anybody who has said that this election was not PART of the problem. Where people go wrong is trying to insinuate that the election is THE reason. Europe’s issues and the tax increase/spending cut issue probably weigh much harder on the market now than simply re-electing Obama.
If anything, the Right should be giddy as hell about Obama being re-elected. Based on past performance, he’s rolled over like a well trained circus seal. On the other hand, when you’ve demonized the crap out of someone who’s trying to do good for the country, there’s no telling on how he’ll act once he realizes he doesn’t have to run for re-election again. So, in that vein, maybe Obama’s probably the Right’s worst nightmare becoming reality.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 9th, 2012
11:47 am
GT — “As I traveled 16 in South Georgia coming back on Wednesday, I still was stuck in this land of fake reality. Try finding a real radio station on that strip of road; it is like trying to find a cell phone signal.”
You speak truth. It’s pretty desolate down there between Savannah and Macon.
As you say, strong radio signals are as hard to find down there as strong cell phone signals. Or clean bathrooms at gas stations.
Doggone/GA
November 9th, 2012
11:47 am
“Again you make things up. What IS it with you cons this week”
It’s all they’ve got left? (get it?
)
Thulsa Doom
November 9th, 2012
11:47 am
Rich men don’t get that way without the money of customers? Wow. Truly a deep and thought provoking statement.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 9th, 2012
11:49 am
Brosephus — “If anything, the Right should be giddy as hell about Obama being re-elected. Based on past performance, he’s rolled over like a well trained circus seal.”
Indeed. Given the liquidity that the Obama administration’s been pumping into the economy, Wall Street’s been making out like bandits. Had I been more rapacious and aggressive with my equity trading accounts, I’d have done much better than I have in the last few years (and I’ve done pretty good as it is).
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 9th, 2012
11:49 am
“Just because you don’t like what he says, Karl Rove has a right to say whatever he pleases”
There are limits to free speech. I cannot say you are a draft-dodger, insider trader, child molester, adulterer, wife beater, communist, racist, baby killer, & hates puppies for no other reason to smear your name and claim it is my right to free speech. People who make outrageous allegations towards another should be held accountable for those allegations. I know it is probably dreaming but I believe it would help our political process if this type of so called “free speech” was eliminated from political campaigns by holding those accountable who just plan make things up.
I am fed up with the tactic of “We do not know nor do we have any evidence if insert-name-here is consorting with the devil. But they might be. We are just asking the question because we do not know the answer and somebody needs to find out.” IMHO that is nothing more than slander and libel and should be treated as such. The excuse that it is part of the political process make me sick.
Doggone/GA
November 9th, 2012
11:50 am
“Rich men don’t get that way without the money of customers? Wow. Truly a deep and thought provoking statement”
And yet…I’ve made statements like that before and been told I don’t understand how the business world works.
Mary Elizabeth
November 9th, 2012
11:50 am
Speaker Boehner is on TV right now speaking in terms of not raising taxes on the most wealthy in the nation (the “small”? business owners as he calls them)and in terms of cutting so-called entitlements. I believe that Republicans have very strong ties to the most wealthy barons of industry in our nation and that they essentially do their bidding within Congress. Moreover, I believe that their entitlement cut plan is the Republican’s “Last Hurrah” for getting Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid fundamentally changed from “government” to “private-based” programs that would take away their safety-net status. The 2012 presidential election was the climax of their decades of effort in that direction, and they lost in that effort two days ago through the priorities and voices of the majority of the American people. Boehner’s efforts now is being made to gather whatever he (and they) can for their more Libertarian vision of American, inspired by the Koch Brothers, et al.
I suppose I should state again that I, too, believe that our deficit problems must be addressed both by spending cuts and raised taxes, but as Sen. Bernie Sanders has asserted, this should not be accomplished through not raising taxes on the most wealthy in our nation, while making the elderly, children, poor, sick, and middle/working class bear the brunt of their plan. It is a matter of balance, fairness, and constantly being aware of and highlighting the underlying intent and motivation of Republicans who are aligned with, and perhaps obligated to, the top 1% of wealth in America.
Have a good day, all.
pete
November 9th, 2012
11:52 am
Brosephus,
Never said I owned a business, I have worked for lots of folks who do own a business. If it were not for them, I wouldn’t have a job, and neither would you.
“You don’t PRODUCE jobs for people to work. Your customer base produces jobs.”
And how do you get a customer base if you don’t have a business? You can’t put the cart in front of the horse. Someone HAS to take a chance on opening a business BEFORE you have a business. Small business in this country is taking a HUGE hit in this economy. Most jobs are created by small business, someone who was willing to take a chance.
Mary Elizabeth
November 9th, 2012
11:52 am
Correction: Boehner’s efforts now ARE (not is). . .
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 9th, 2012
11:53 am
“He is going to have to check his indicators again but from his comments I gathered that the market is due for a correction. I think its pretty obvious it was triggered in part by the election.”
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight … riots in Greece??? ongoing recession in Europe?? nah. it’s the ELECTION.
Brosephus™
November 9th, 2012
11:53 am
JHM
Until recently, I was averaging between 15% and 20% return on my TSP. All one has to do is watch the markets. It has little to do with who’s in the WH. I lost about $1500 in all of 2008, and I predicted the climb after the 2nd quarter in 2009 and rode the market all the way back up. Everything was going fine until the GOP went all helter skelter with the debt limit stuff. They really screwed things up for a brother.
Doggone/GA
November 9th, 2012
11:53 am
“There are limits to free speech. I cannot say you are a draft-dodger, insider trader, child molester, adulterer, wife beater, communist, racist, baby killer, & hates puppies for no other reason to smear your name and claim it is my right to free speech”
Actually, you can. if he objects it’s up to him to protest via the courts and THEN you would have to prove your assertions or face the consequences.
Heckle and JayKyle
November 9th, 2012
11:53 am
So Jay is saying that Rove is like the Wizard of Oz? That’s no good, because the Wizard actually did deliver. Rove to Romney: “So you say that you don’t have enough popular votes? That’s no obstacle. Why, I’ve elected presidents who had no more popular votes than you, but they had one thing that you don’t have: a supreme court willing to commit treason and actually perform a coup so that foreign influences could get us mired in decades long wars……So, by the authority vested in me by the military industrial complex, I hereby present you with the presidency, but you’ll have to invade the Islamist Munchkinland of Iran.”
And this isn’t the end of Karl Rove. If anything he’s going to be front and center two years from now when the entire house is taken over by the flying monkeys of conservatism. Gads, Jay didn’t leave us much with the OZ reference. He did it on purpose. The references have been done to death and it’s no fun to try to wring some originality out of it.
Fly-On-The-Wall
November 9th, 2012
11:53 am
Can someone please confirm these messages about layoffs. I had a conservative co-worker post the exact same list yesterday. So is this just right wing noise or is it part of planned layoffs that were going to happen way and just coincide with the election? I can’t believe that companies would start to layoff workers just because of an election. That is just….unAmerican.
Tinkerella
November 9th, 2012
11:54 am
@ Bro -I wanted to vote for Charles Darwin but I’m not in their district.
getalife
November 9th, 2012
11:54 am
cons love being lied to and disrespected.
Sad but true.
They never get rid of their losers like rove.
Doggone/GA
November 9th, 2012
11:55 am
“And how do you get a customer base if you don’t have a business?”
How do you have a business if you don’t have a customer base? There has to be SOME indication that the customers are there before you invest the time and money into starting a business. No one invests all that in the production of geezy widgets…because there’s no customer base to buy them.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 9th, 2012
11:55 am
COMPANIES PLAN MASSIVE LAYOFFS AS OBAMACARE BECOMES REALITY…
drudgey spam.
Peter
November 9th, 2012
11:56 am
oops . You are complaining about the stock market ?
So why do you think 8 out of the 10 wealthiest counties in America Voted for Obama ?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 9th, 2012
11:57 am
Utah company fires 100, blames Obama…
drudgey spam.
King of Planet Kolob
November 9th, 2012
11:57 am
Another thing that is lost on the GOP is that a lot of rich white males, typical 1%-ers, are also scared $#!t of the GOP. Give them a week to start the obstructionism again and prove they are unable to learn anything.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 9th, 2012
11:58 am
Brosephus — “Until recently, I was averaging between 15% and 20% return on my TSP. All one has to do is watch the markets. It has little to do with who’s in the WH. I lost about $1500 in all of 2008, and I predicted the climb after the 2nd quarter in 2009 and rode the market all the way back up.”
I’m a bit more cautious than you; I read the signs right in 2008 and pulled out of equities entirely before the crash; I ended the year with only about an 8.3% loss. But I was slow and cautious in riding the market back up, so I’ve missed several good opportunities that i really should have taken advantage of. Still, I’m nicely up and watching for the signs to back out before the correction. I guess I’m more about preserving my capital than about making the really big scores.
I don’t make a good poker player because I’m too cautious.
Grasshopper
November 9th, 2012
11:58 am
Newsflash to Liberals
Republicans still control the House, have 45 senators, 29 governorships and control 27 state houses.
They didn’t disappear overnight and you still have to deal with them.
Hardy-har-har.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
November 9th, 2012
11:58 am
Double Dowwwwn on da crazy, mon – just now on Faux –
Rove: “Obama succeeded by suppressing the vote.”
no s*
Please please please, cons make this guy your leader.
with the pillhead radio pig and Grover Norquist. trifecta! heheh
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 9th, 2012
11:58 am
“Utah company fires 100, blames Obama”
wait … wait … don’t tell me … it’s “personal responsibility, ltd” that did that
Doggone/GA
November 9th, 2012
11:58 am
“Utah company fires 100, blames Obama”
On the other hand:
UPS To Hire 55,000 Seasonal Workers
http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2012/10/29/ups-to-hire-55-000-seasonal-workers-to-handle-higher-holiday-vol/
Joe Hussein Mama
November 9th, 2012
11:59 am
H & JayKyle — “two years from now when the entire house is taken over by the flying monkeys of conservatism.”
I think your timeline is WAY off.
bleary
November 9th, 2012
11:59 am
Perfect assessment of the man called “Bush’s brain”