The GOP’s self-defeating image of minorities as ‘takers’

I’m seeing and hearing a lot of this kind of thing, on this blog and elsewhere, as Republicans attempt to come to grips with Tuesday’s election defeat and try to seek explanations for why they lost.

For those unable to watch video, here’s what O’Reilly had to say on Election Night, as it was becoming apparent that it would be a bad night for Republicans:

“The white establishment is now the minority. And the voters, many of them, feel that the economic system is stacked against them and they want stuff. You are going to see a tremendous Hispanic vote for President Obama. Overwhelming black vote for President Obama. And women will probably break President Obama’s way. People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?”

In one sense, you can understand why that kind of rationalization would be appealing. In effect, O’Reilly is telling his listeners that “We lost by being better than they are. It’s not our fault and there’s nothing we can or should change.” He applies the powerful salve of moral superiority to a open wound, and by doing so he makes people feel better. People like to feel better, so they’ll come back to Fox for more.

But O’Reilly’s wrong. He’s wrong as a matter of politics, he’s wrong as a matter of morality, and he’s wrong as a matter of history. His listeners are equally wrong to believe him. To the degree that they continue to do so, they are likely to experience more tough election nights in the years to come.

Think about it. While older white voters might find O’Reilly’s message reassuring, imagine that you’re black (93 percent for Obama), or Latino-American (71 percent for Obama), or Asian-American (73 percent for Obama). Imagine that you’re flipping through the news coverage on Election Night and you hear O’Reilly make those comments. How do they come across?

They come across as condescending and even racist, because they ARE condescending and racist. The comments equate the fading “white establishment” with all that is good and great in this country, while the rising minority tide is treated as “takers,” as leeches.

It’s not a complicated thing. Hearing that kind of argument, the natural reaction of almost any non-white listener will be to reject the political party from which such sentiments are emanating, regardless of what other affinities you might have with it. Because you and your parents and your cousins and your friends are being insulted.

But is O’Reilly’s formulation nonetheless accurate? Not even close.

To use his term, it was “the white establishment” that created Social Security, and it did so largely for white people, because that’s who dominated this country at the time. It was the white establishment that created Medicare, and it did so largely for white people, because again, that’s who dominated the country at that time. More recently, the white establishment, in the form of President George W. Bush and a Republican Congress, created Medicare Part D.

Who’s on Medicaid, the government-financed health care program that Romney/Ryan proposed to slash? Among the non-elderly, some 43 percent are white, 22 percent are black and 28 percent are Latino. And who’s on food stamps? According to the Census Bureau, 59 percent are white.

And if you really want to get down to it, we can do so.

U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan campaigns at The Villages retirement community in Florida, promising to protect "free stuff" for senior citizens.

U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan campaigns at The Villages retirement community in Florida, promising to protect "free stuff" for senior citizens.

When Paul Ryan campaigned in the massive Villages retirement community in central Florida this year, promising to restore the $716 billion in “free stuff” that Obama had cut from Medicare, he wasn’t pitching those remarks to retired black school-bus drivers. He was pitching them to white Americans over 65, 61 percent of whom ended up voting for the Romney/Ryan ticket.

Because let’s be blunt. No demographic group in the country gets more “free stuff” from the government than its senior citizens. In fact, seniors make up roughly half of that infamous “47 percent” who pay no federal income taxes. And a lot of them sat there Tuesday night, watching on Fox and shaking their heads in agreement with O’Reilly.

One final point:

The 2012 exit polls offer further evidence to rebut the notion that Obama’s coalition is motivated largely by the demand for “free stuff.”

For example:

– The 65 percent of Americans who believe that illegal immigrants ought to be given a chance to become U.S. citizens voted for Obama by a 24-point margin. These are people drawn to this country by the opportunity to work to make things better for themselves and their children, and the Obama coalition respects them for it.

– The 49 percent of Americans who believe that gay marriage should be legal voted for Obama by a 48-point margin. (The 46 percent who believe it should be banned voted for Romney by a similar margin.) Younger Americans in particular define that as a basic civil right, and voters in four states confirmed that belief Tuesday.

– The 59 percent of Americans who believe that abortion ought to be legal — that such an issue is up to the individual, rather than government bureaucrats — voted for Obama by a 36-point margin.

That’s not “free stuff.” That’s freedom and opportunity, even if the definitions of freedom and opportunity might differ from those of earlier generations of Americans. That’s how it ought to be. Every generation in this country has re-interpreted the American dream in its own way, and nothing is going to stop that process.

– Jay Bookman

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USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
10:53 am

Hey – if the GOP thinks that’s going to work for them … that going EVEN FARTHER to the right is their winning ticket … LET ‘EM!!

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266649-conservatives-lambast-romney-vow-to-take-over-gop

Mr Right

November 8th, 2012
10:54 am

This is a screwed up country now!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
10:55 am

“The 59 percent of Americans who believe that abortion ought to be legal — that such an issue is up to the individual, rather than government bureaucrats — voted for Obama by a 36-point margin”

and in the Hispanic community, that number was even higher.

Do I have to use my real name?

November 8th, 2012
10:57 am

Speaking of freedom………Do you have similar stats for correlating votes for marijuana legalization in CO and WA and votes for Obama?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 8th, 2012
10:59 am

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 8th, 2012
10:59 am

Start now for 2014 and work to turn the house blue.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
11:00 am

“marijuana legalization”

a idea whose time has flippin’ COME. sheesh.

M

November 8th, 2012
11:01 am

The single most common rant I’ve seen on Facebook is the “Well, I don’t have any need to work hard anymore…I’ll just do the bare minimum and get my free stuff from the government, too!!!” crap.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
11:01 am

“Start now for 2014 and work to turn the house blue.”

ack.

can we take the week off, ma’am??

Racism, School Desegregation Laws and the Civil Rights Movement in the United States

November 8th, 2012
11:03 am

This video illustrates the heart of retaliation during the Civil Rights Movement. The South endured so much hate and some would like to see those days return. Beginning at 18:32, the man that is speaking tells how the laws were created by the KKK. For all of those that would like a refreshed Southern History course, please feel free to watch. Some may find the video offensive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ACS4PgDFA

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
11:04 am

But if Fox says it, it must be true? :roll:

The right has created its own bubble world. A massive hole was torn in that bubble on Tuesday and yet rather than deal with reality they world to close up the bubble and patch it.

Midori

November 8th, 2012
11:04 am

I’ll tell you what: I “DO” want stuff.

I want my social security benefits when I’m eligible.

You know, the same benefits I’vecontributed to during my entire life as a working person.

King of Planet Kolob

November 8th, 2012
11:05 am

And the biggest moochers and takers of all are those who make millions but pays 0% – 15% on their taxes while the rest of us pays 30% on a tens of thousand.

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
11:05 am

For those unable to watch video

Given it’s BillO, that really should include 100% of your reading audience.

Michael

November 8th, 2012
11:06 am

As I read yesterday, people will gravitate towards Broadcasters who support their views. We all do that more or less, but until we open our minds up we only take in information that we want to hear and it reinforces our chersihed belief system. Closed mind, closed life. Bill and the rest of the the Repulicans are trying to figure out what hit them and Oreilly is clueless.

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
11:07 am

…oh, it’s the “they ‘want stuff’” a-holery clip? heard that.

Who DOESN’T “want stuff?” I don’t know that this merits much further conversation or exposure. I don’t really care if these ass clowns reform themselves this week, or next year. It will happen by hook or by crook.

That said, I do appreciate your tireless efforts to patiently explain the obvious to the not-very-bright, Jay. You earn double whatever they’re paying you, far as I’m concerned.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

November 8th, 2012
11:08 am

“What an incredible story to tell yourselves,” Stewart said. “We would’ve won if it weren’t for the moral failings of the non-real America. Fox lost because last night, minorities, who feel entitled to things, came and took the country away form the self-sufficient, white, Medicare retirees and upper class tax avoidance experts — or, as they’re also known, your audience.”

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-7-2012/post-democalypse-2012—america-takes-a-shower—karl-rove-s-math

Simple Truths

November 8th, 2012
11:08 am

More peace, love, and positivity today on Jay’s blog.

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
11:09 am

and in the Hispanic community, that number was even higher.

but but “I’m Catholic and I VOTE” bumper stickerz!

Midori

November 8th, 2012
11:09 am

Keep –

did you see Karl Rove’s on camera meltdown on Election Night?

It was comedic GOLD.

Even the anchors called him crazy :lol:

Martin the Calvinist

November 8th, 2012
11:09 am

Yea Granny, just like USinUK said, can’t we take a week off, In fact, can’t we take at least a year off. Geesh.

Now to Jay’s point, what Bill O’Reilly said was just stupid. But, we do hand out a lot of goodies to a lot of people… no matter their race. That’s the problem! That’s a huge part of the reason that we have such a large deficit, the other two is Defense Spending and low Revenue…But I’m not an advocate of a 3 trillion dollar budget or larger at all. We really need to shrink that budget down to about 1.5 Trillion annually.

On a different note, Jamie Dupree on the Radio said at that moment, all votes weren’t counted yet, that 8 million people less people voted for Obama in 2012 than in 2008, about 2.5 million less voted for Romney than who voted for McCain in 08… So turnout was a little less this year than last….

BuckeyeInGa

November 8th, 2012
11:10 am

I mentioned this on Kyle’s thread…sad but the Republicans will continue to lose unless this mindset is changed.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
11:11 am

People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?”

What these morons don’t realize is that we are Americans, black white, hispanic, men, women, all we feel we are entitled to is respect as human beings and the freedom to live our lives without Republican so called ” morality.

We’ve seen what YOU call morality Republicans, and we reject it lock stock and barrel. Your posters here like Doom and others have shown us your so called “honor and integrity” and we reject it. They’ve shown us your lies and we reject them. You are small, sad, scared, pathetic little excuses of humans and we reject you. You have rendered yourselves meaningless except to the minority of talk radio listeners and Fox Bots. There are only a small number of the weak minded you can overwhelm with your lies. The rest of us reject you.

And your response? Double down on the lies and the hate. Please leave you traitors. We, the people, neither want nor need you.

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2012
11:12 am

Things have gotten so bad… how bad are they? They’re so bad, even Ann Coulter has started singing the blues. I think she’s the one in the middle, on the floor.

alex

November 8th, 2012
11:12 am

WAY too simple minded for both you and O’reilly,tell my dad ss is agift and he’ll wonder why he paid into it…….

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
11:12 am

I’ll tell y’all what… and if this sounds racist, then forgive me as that is not my intent.

If you think people want free stuff and you don’t have to work, then quit already dammit!! Move out the way so that those of us who want to do things can get a turn at bat. We’ll turn this place into the real life version of “Trading Places” as many of the young and minority people want to succeed. We just don’t get the same opportunities to do that.

We’re going to take this country. We’re going to take it and keep it going forth as it has always been. America has always been the land of opportunity, and a change in majority/minority groups won’t be the end of this place. My word of caution is to not eliminate minority protections as your current actions are not taken very well with the current minority groups. There’s no guarantee that new minority protections will be enacted to save your asses when you’re on the other end.

Midori

November 8th, 2012
11:12 am

Buckeye — and they deserve to lose.

You can’t build a coalition based on lies and hatred.

Not in today’s America.

Mick

November 8th, 2012
11:14 am

Brilliant colummn, thanks again for so eloquently telling it like it is! However, it will be failing on deaf ears…

Midori

November 8th, 2012
11:14 am

well said Fred.

well said Bro.

Ben

November 8th, 2012
11:15 am

I don’t think minorities are “takers”, I think takers are takers. And takers did swing this election.

The abortion junk was a very successful scare tactic. No one who is paying attention seriously thinks that the SCOTUS is going to overturn Roe v. Wade, but it sure made a lot of fools scared. Funny thing, abortion stuff was not anywhere on Romney’s agenda, the press just decided to attack him on it even though he had no intention of changing anything. And it worked, definitely helped Obama win.

If only they attacked Obama with stuff he would like to do but isn’t going to do because he knows there’s no way it would fly. Then it would have been a fair and open fight. Must be nice for Obama knowing the press had his back and was happy to lie and cover and omit and bias his way back to the White House.

barking frog

November 8th, 2012
11:15 am

Congratulations to the brown majority. I feel since the white minority is no longer
threatened with the loss of their majority status we should tear down that fence
Mr. Obama and have immigration nafta with Mexico and Canada.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
11:16 am

Midori, I saw that meltdown and others. Stewart has a great take on it last night too…Funny but sad.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
11:16 am

“but but “I’m Catholic and I VOTE” bumper stickerz!”

heh.

I’m FB friends with a high school friend’s mother … and i’m telling you, she’s more Catholic than the Pope …

it was ALL I could do not to forward her Rachel Maddow’s opening from last night (here ’tis, if you didn’t see it).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/49736328#49736431

nearly 2/3 of america want abortion to remain legal. deal with it.

Fly-On-The-Wall

November 8th, 2012
11:17 am

I don’t see any real statesmen (statespeople?) in the Republican Party any more. They need someone to lead them out of the desert otherwise they’ll spend the next 40 years wondering around in it.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
11:17 am

helpful hint from de island mon – do NOT play the game where you
listen to AM radio and Drink every time you hear Makers/Takers.

your liver & the DOT thank you (geez, we’ll never clean up this mess)

F. Sinkwich

November 8th, 2012
11:18 am

That’s just what the republicans need, unsolicited advice from Jay and his choir of commie clowns.

Look, you won. You don’t need anything from anyone to do what you want, regardless of its questionable popularity (see Obamacare).

O’bozo said four years ago he would fundamentally change America. I naively believed he couldn’t do that, but he succeeded.

All he had to do was promise free stuff (healthcare, student loans, rubbers and whatnot) funded by undeserving ingrates (the “rich”) and it worked, easily!

RIP USA, 1776 – 2012

“Every generation in this country has re-interpreted the American dream in its own way, and nothing is going to stop that process.”

Indeed.

MANGLER

November 8th, 2012
11:19 am

Waiting in line to vote, the people around me were chit chatting with each other about who they were going to vote for and why (and the rain), as if they all seemed to agree and assume that because of where we were, that everyone in that line thought the same way. The older people were griping about Obama phones but not wanting anything to happen to their Medicaid. They were complaining about food stamps and WIC while lamenting the thought of losing their mortgage deductions or charitable contribution deductions. They were all about “choice” when it pertains to creating an additional layer of Government to oversee and overrule the local Boards to make private charter schools using public education dollars, and yet in the same breath complained about birth control or contraception as part of healthcare practice because that choice isn’t ok. And apparently something happened in a town called Benghazi. I hadn’t heard about that. Had you? They were outraged! Yet they didn’t seem to complain about the 5,000+ troops that have died in the Middle East since 2001 over a war that was started under false pretenses. I did pipe up and start some crap when those comments came around. I may have uttered a sentence with “roses”, “heads”, and “rectum” at that point.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
11:19 am

Before republicans can regain their place as a viable party, they’re gonna have to figure out what to do during the Primary.

Apparently, no republican candidate can make it out of the primary without commtting to stupid, politically unviable positions. Then, they have to try to “walk back” those positions all during the election cycle, leaving them open to (true) charges of “flip-flop”.

I’d be interested in hearing the views of conservative commenters on this situation. Those whose comments reduce to “the electorate is stupid,” please think again before posting – that is not a position that will ever help republicans.

DeborahinAthens

November 8th, 2012
11:20 am

Repugs spin and twist, trying to avoid facing the fact that they lost because they have become a party of nuts. I am white, older, in the next to the highest tax bracket. I have been married to the same man for 42 years. I have two grown sons who are well educated and employed with happy families. I was a Republican until G.W.Bush became the golden child of a party that had come to bend to the whims of the religious nut jobs. They became more interested in growing government to be sure that no one had any liberties, while at the same time screaming about big government. That the bobble heads on Fox News and the ding bats like Palin, Akins, Mourdock, and that pitiful , brainless trash, Paul Broun cannot even see the hypocrisy, makes me marvel at their stupidity. That their followers watch a reasonable middle of the road man like Romney have to contort his values to suck up to the Bible thumpers makes me marvel at their stupidity. The irony of this election is that, had the old Mittens run, the one that is on camera saying he believes in a woman’s right to choose, the Mitt that crafted a fairly decent health care plan for Massachusetts, Imight have voted for him. As a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, I watched in horror as Dubya the Dumb brought this country to its knees with his ludicrous tax cuts, two wars he paid for as an ” emergency” for five years, his Medicare Part D that was a financial windfall for the drug companies. And then we have had to listen to the Republicans refuse to own their mess. So Repugs, keep spinning, keep listening to your ill informed Fox News Bimbette, and listen to Ann (harpy) Coulter, and Sarah (dingbat) Palin (I cannot believe anyone had the idiocy to ask that horror of a woman her opinion on the Obama re-election yesterday) . Keep vilifying Chris Christy, a good, honorable man, for working with Obama to help his people survive a terrible calamity. And you know what? Unless I am dead in 2016, I will vote for Hillary Clinton, who will be our first woman President.

Erwin's cat

November 8th, 2012
11:21 am

let’s be blunt.

yes let’s be :D ….in CO and WA

booger

November 8th, 2012
11:21 am

It’s interesting that you refer to social security and medicare as “free stuff”. I paid into these systems my entire working life. If what I paid is not enough, I didn’t set the amount. The government did. If the amount is wrong, there is nothing I can do about it. Also these old leeches you refer to have no choice.. They get SS and Medicare whether they ask for it or not.

This is not quite the same as someone living in section 8 housing, getting financial assistance, food stamps, 100% free medical care for them and their families, free school breakfasts and lunch even when schools out in some cases, free obamaphones as one lady described them plus service, college loans which do not have to be repaid as long as you stay poor, and numerous free things through community action non profits.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
11:21 am

” No one who is paying attention seriously thinks that the SCOTUS is going to overturn Roe v. Wade, but it sure made a lot of fools scared.”

True dat. However, the republicans kept bringing it up, as in “if elected, I will work to make abortion illegal” type statements. That made the subject fair game, don’t you think?

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
11:22 am

frog: Mr. Obama and have immigration nafta with Mexico and Canada.

We already have that. Between NAFTA, SENTRI, NEXUS, and Global Entry, the only thing that really separates Mexico, Canada, and the US is nationalities. Pretty soon, we’ll be integrated to the point where our economies will likely mirror each other with pinpoint precision.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
11:22 am

Hey Brocephus @ 11:12: PREACH IT BROTHER Tell them, lead follow or better yet, just get the freak out of the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYcqToQzzGY

Mick

November 8th, 2012
11:22 am

**RIP USA, 1776 – 2012

Hogwash…I’ll take this version over 2000-2008 any day plus sunday. Play your cards right and you’ll get another shot…eventually…

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
11:23 am

JAY

You are way out of line suggesting this guy is a racist..being bit dramatic aren’t you …expected better.

Here’s what I see:

“People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?”

How exactly is that racist..you are taking the meaning of “them” in a context that maximizes and sensationalizes you ridiculous point.

Could it be that “them” includes the white establishment minority as well as those other victims as you suggest of racism?

It is unlikely you could hold your own in a debate with this guy…he’s a toad to be sure, and right leaning but at least he attempts to provide an alternative view on all his shows..

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 8th, 2012
11:23 am

USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
11:01 am
“Start now for 2014 and work to turn the house blue.”

ack.

can we take the week off, ma’am??

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If you must…..

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
11:24 am

My wife and I discussed the amazing Latino-Repub disconnect again last night. She still can’t believe that the GOP is trying to run off people like her.

“They’re eating their seed corn,” she said. “If they’d just stop being afraid of brown people and stop talking smack about us, they could get us on their side and have no problem taking the White House and Senate.” But they can’t. They just can’t do it.

It’s part of the Republican mindset; the fear and blaming of The Other. It’s always got to be the fault of some easily identifiable group of people, and skin color and language help to make targeting easier.

There’s never any consideration on their part that *professional* Latinos — who have educations and good jobs, who pay taxes and don’t receive Federal assistance — might get insulted when a GOP candidate slags on Latinos who haven’t come as far up the ladder yet. No, they *invite* the professional Latino into their crowd and then continue to diss poor, working-class Latinos and speculate whether or not that construction crew over there has their immigration documents in order, ha, ha, ha. :roll:

P. J. O’Rourke pointed out once that Cubans will ride a leaky raft — made out of a door and milk jugs — 90 miles through shark-infested waters just to have a chance at getting a job making meals or turning down the bedclothes of wealthy Yanquis. And isn’t someone who’s THAT dedicated to getting a job the kind of person the Republicans say they want? Maybe. Maybe NOT.

Hispanics will bust their tails to make it in this country. Just give them time. And by the time the majority of them are educated and have good jobs — and you’re ready to welcome them into your political party — most of them will remember who was polite and considerate to them when they were just getting started.

And they won’t vote for you.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

November 8th, 2012
11:24 am

RIP USA, 1776 – 2012

Send Sinkwich a fainting couch. I’ll buy. Wouldn’t want him to hurt his widdle noggin.

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
11:24 am

ERWIN

I agree!! Too bad I’m off all blunts..

Erwin's cat

November 8th, 2012
11:25 am

What these morons don’t realize is that we are Americans, black white, hispanic, men, women, all we feel we are entitled to is respect as human beings and the freedom to live our lives without Republican so called ” morality.

actually I think most of the morons on the right and left…just want to be left the hell alone

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
11:25 am

nearly 2/3 of america want abortion to remain legal.

as I pointed out to Mrs. sfd last night as that graphic flashed, that number has remained very stable over the decades. I use this compendium of polling on the topic, others may have better / more recent resources.

http://pollingreport.com/abortion2.htm

at any rate, it is a loser issue for the GOP, and I suspect it will only get worse over the years.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
11:25 am

“RIP USA, 1776 – 2012″

Obviously you have not an ounce of patriotism. Go to some country you consider “still alive,” while the rest of us carry on making America great!

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
11:25 am

EC @ 11:21

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I bet their tourism industry is about to go bonkers. I was thinking about transferring out to Sea-Tac, but that place will be a madhouse with the increase in international traffic pretty soon.

————————-

Fred

That’s all nice and good, but it’s almost time to say goodbye to Mr. Nice Guy and go this route.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw429JGL5zo

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
11:25 am

See Steve take one sentence and ignore the prior context….. but hey, he “didn’t build that” right?

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
11:26 am

yes let’s be :D ….in CO and WA

niiiice.

/drive-by

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
11:26 am

“Start now for 2014 and work to turn the House blue.”

I know, the cons are getting a head start on us making it turn Blue

Jm

November 8th, 2012
11:26 am

O’reilley is a wind bag

This is Mrs. Norman Maine

November 8th, 2012
11:26 am

The GOP has a problem. They have spent the last 4 years calling Obama names, hatching crazy birther conspiracies and stoking the fears of their crazy base that Obama is a socialist and a Muslim. They’ve spent the last 4 years demonizing Blacks, Latinos, Muslims, immigrants, gays and poor people. They’ve focused on personhood amendments, abortion, gay marriage, immigration and social support services and have stated they their sole goal is not to improve this country but to get Obama out of office. Did they think we didn’t notice? Well now they’ve failed and what to do because there are more of “us” than they are of “them” and that is not going to change. You got to stand for something instead of just hating everybody. It’s going to take them a minute to catch on especially down South here but eventually they’ll learn their lesson. I just hope they don’t take the country down in the process.

Commonscents

November 8th, 2012
11:27 am

The Republican party has been highjacked by radio and t.v. personalities. These personalities make money off of people’s emotions. Until true fiscal conservatives step up and reject their entertainment allies, the Republicans will continue this suicide strategy of alienating everyone that isn’t like the extreme right. This is unfortunate because the Democrats will enjoy national success without having to worry about being held accountable because the alternative is so extreme.

Jay

November 8th, 2012
11:28 am

And I in turn am disappointed in you, Stevie Ray.

You excerpt one sentence out of that rant, strip it of context such as “white establishment” and surging black and Hispanic vote, and then try to say “What? Who, me?”

Sorry bud. That’s just too damn transparent of you.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
11:28 am

All he had to do was promise free stuff (healthcare, student loans, rubbers and whatnot) funded by undeserving ingrates (the “rich”) and it worked, easily!

RIP USA, 1776 – 2012
++++++++++++++++++++++

Pack your bags and GIT traitor. We don’t need your scared little whiny soul. We need REAL Americans who are brave and strong minded enough to think for themselves. Go to where ever it is that Neal said he was going to go. As Brocephus said, QUIT, and let a real man have that job.

Jm

November 8th, 2012
11:28 am

They should legalize Mary Jane in GA

Even though it makes people dumb

getalife

November 8th, 2012
11:30 am

Stay the course cons.

You are doing a great job for the Dems.

DannyX

November 8th, 2012
11:30 am

DeborahinAthens and JHM,

Well said!

GT

November 8th, 2012
11:31 am

For months FOX amused itself and audience with the idea that the polls had been monkeyed with by the Democrats, another of the dozens of factious conspiracies they deal out like a machine gun every day. The exact opposite was happening, the Obama machine was making a new science of polling accuracy and the proof is in the reality of Tuesday night. They knew exactly where they were going to land, and then made a perfect landing. This is like the girl who finds her boyfriend is married to another woman but keeps on dating him anyway. Why do people continue to watch FOX? You look at the audience and you began to realize this is like intellectual fake wrestling. This is not reality but what some “get a life” people want life to be. It is political porn, and the people on FOX dealing it, are beginning to look like a loud disrespectful Jimmy Savile, where people overlooked their perversions for the entertainment value. R Murdock specializing in this muck for sale, he knows his audience well and plays them like a game show host making fools of his contestants who then come back begging for more.

Gale

November 8th, 2012
11:32 am

‘xactly, Bro! I was thinking the same thing, only you said it better. Y’all just quit then and try living on the “goodie” handouts. I will keep working, paying my taxes, and saving for my retirement. When I am enjoying that retirement, they will still be living with their hands out.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
11:32 am

“They should legalize Mary Jane in GA

Even though it makes people dumb”
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In GA, how would you be able to tell?

(Sorry, I just couldn’t resist…) :D

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
11:32 am

“All he had to do was promise free stuff (healthcare, student loans, rubbers and whatnot) funded by undeserving ingrates (the “rich”) and it worked, easily!

RIP USA, 1776 – 2012″

aw, bless him … he and his little FOX friends are deep in the doldrums of denial

deegee

November 8th, 2012
11:32 am

So what things did O’Reilly want from Romney that he’s not going to get now? Did Sheldon Adelson and the Koch brothers give Romney millions of dollars in exchange for nothing? What politician goes around telling prospective voters that there’s nothing in it for them?

getalife

November 8th, 2012
11:32 am

Pssst, medical marijuana does work for pain.

Trust me on this one.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 8th, 2012
11:33 am

did you see Karl Rove’s on camera meltdown on Election Night?

Well, all I know is I’d rather be driving a beer truck than be in old Karl’s shoes when he meets up with that big shot in Las Vegas that donated $100 million to 14 races and his canadates lost every one of them. There’s more than one Godfather, you know, and that water around Hoover Dam is mighty deep, I hear.

Anyhow, I’m against the Takers in this country unless it’s me and mine. But these Republican big shots are so into power they’ll be demanding that each of us take one of Those People or a Mexican into our home and support them as family rather than them taking another azz-whooping like they done Tuesday. I ain’t seen a beat-down like that since Luke Snedegar caught Shorty Hanrahan in bed with his woman.

Have a good Thursday everybody.

barking frog

November 8th, 2012
11:33 am

Brosephus

Then the fence should go and let the border guards concentrate on drug
interdiction and terrorist infiltration. Indeterminate visas or work permits
should be the norm.

Jimmy Carter

November 8th, 2012
11:33 am

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
11:34 am

booger

November 8th, 2012
11:21 am

This is not quite the same as someone living in section 8 housing, getting financial assistance, food stamps, 100% free medical care for them and their families, free school breakfasts and lunch even when schools out in some cases, free obamaphones as one lady described them plus service, college loans which do not have to be repaid as long as you stay poor, and numerous free things through community action non profits.
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As you should have seen Tuesday night booger, the number of low intelligence people like you who believe these talk radio/fox news lies is growing smaller every day. We thinking people wish they would grow even smaller FASTER. Please leave. We are tired of you American traitors. Do you need help with your air fare to the pie in the sky place thta Boortz is going to? Luggage? If you pronmise to NEVER come back I’ll buy you either one or both. Leave and denounce your citizenship in this “socialist” kenyan led Country of moochers.

Thulsa Doom

November 8th, 2012
11:34 am

Fred,

What was that about me needing some honor and integrity? You gotta be kidding. You’re the same guy who claimed a year ago that you had a photogenic memory and that you had memorized word for word every page of every book on the high school reading list. And that your teacher quizzed you on random passages from various books and you would tick her off by then reciting said passages word for word. What a load of crap. You were full of it then and you’re full of it now. And then fantastical Fred then told us about his genius math abilities. So what happened? B presented you with a math problem and rather than solve you just whined and called him names post after post. Eventually you just went away since it was clear you couldn’t back up your total BS. Fantastical Fred we called you that night.

You remind me of that 7 foot tall Texan who weighed 300 lbs and they couldnt fit him in a casket when he died. So they did an enema and afterwards he was 5 foot tall and 80 lbs. He was just like you fantastical Fred full of shyte!

Der-Meistersinger

November 8th, 2012
11:34 am

Your title is as misleading as your logic. Takers are not minorities by definition, and never have been. Takers are net receivers of government enforced redistribution. Makers are net contributors under the tax code. Do you deny, can you deny that an entitlement framework exists within specific sub-group classifications that historically vote (post 1964) for the Democratic Party platform? Attacking whites indirectly by tying them to O’Reilly’s viewpoints is merely moral subterfuge – I think they know why the GOP lost the election and I think they are prepared to assess the Party platform to determine which, if any, planks should be revised or replaced. As for your take on the “fading white establishment” let it fade. Conservative values do not need an ethnic moniker. They stand alone on their own merits and they work. You claim that each generation of Americans has the right to redefine freedom and opportunity – I agree with you if that definition remains within the framework of law. If on the other hand, the redefinition of freedom and opportunity is nothing more than to have the arbitrary freedom to seek the opportunity of revenge against your fellow citizens because of some perception of injustice (which by definition I believe is known as prejudice), I completely disagree.

Erwin's cat

November 8th, 2012
11:35 am

Bro @ 11:25
I don’t expect it will have any ill effect in Seattle…except maybe increased tax revenue ($10/pack of smokes as it is)….other than that it’ll be business as usual….it’s no wonder it’s a great foodie town :D

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
11:35 am

Every generation in this country has re-interpreted the American dream in its own way, and nothing is going to stop that process

A great closing Jay and yet so many see adaptation and change as a failure. The only way this country will maintain its leadership status is to evolve, adapt and dream. Going forward and not looking backward.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
11:36 am

“did you see Karl Rove’s on camera meltdown on Election Night?”

as Jon Stewart said, that one will live on FOREVER.

DownInAlbany

November 8th, 2012
11:36 am

Who’s on Medicaid, the government-financed health care program that Romney/Ryan proposed to slash? Among the non-elderly, some 43 percent are white, 22 percent are black and 28 percent are Latino. And who’s on food stamps? According to the Census Bureau, 59 percent are white.

Never mind that whites make up 72% of the the population, blacks, 13%, huh? Spin, spin, spin. Like I said yesterday: there is no such thing as “unbiased media.”

Pete

November 8th, 2012
11:36 am

The GOP is in trouble as a national party. Women voted for Obama by 55-43, and we already know the percentage of votes Obama got from minorities. If the GOP became the party of fiscal responsibility and dropped the divisive, extreme social issues from their platform, they would have a chance to be the majoity party. But they’ve got to get rid of the crazies like Akin, Murdouck, Coulter, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Donnell, Angle, Bachmann, Santorum, etc.etc.etc. Those people turn off a majority of the country with their hateful, bigoted, racist, homophobic rhetoric. Even somebody like Ryan who is perceived as mainstream is against abortion even to save a woman’s life and in the case of pregnancy by rape. Contraception is criticized. These positions are outside of the mainstream and will not bring a majority of women into the party. Immigrants hear the hateful rhetoric about them. Black people hear themselves being called “takers.” Gays hear themselves being bashed at every turn. The GOP needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
11:36 am

Jimmy Carter,

Yes, two gop thumpins by President Obama.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
11:37 am

Watch out Fred, Doomsy is about to lose it and melt down, just as he did last night. :lol: He’s not taking this election loss well at all.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
11:37 am

DeborahinAthens @ 11:20
JHM @ 11:24

I can’t speak from your point of views, but I empathize with your positions 100%. Very well stated!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZRPNISLork

hewhoasks

November 8th, 2012
11:37 am

They live by the rules of fiction, not by the rules of non-fiction (reality.) Understand that and you understand a great deal.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
11:38 am

“photogenic memory”

is it really pretty??

what’s its best side?

do you need to use filters or photoshop, or is it photogenic naturally???

Nero

November 8th, 2012
11:38 am

Jeremiah Wright coined it perfect. G**damn America! I don’t care anymore. Screw this country. It deserves everything it gets as it gradually picks up speed in it’s spiraling decent into obscurity. Rome is burning and nothing will change. I’m gonna sit back and laugh while it all crashes on top of your pointy heads. My only hope is it burns hot and slow. That way all you leeches and charlatans all suffer excruciatingly slow before the end. The fire should be exquisite. I’ll bring the marshmallows.

Lord Help Us

November 8th, 2012
11:38 am

‘a photogenic memory ‘

I want one of those…

Lord Help Us

November 8th, 2012
11:39 am

‘a photogenic memory ‘

I want one of those…I had a couple of beer goggle moments in college that a photogenic memory would really help with…

getalife

November 8th, 2012
11:40 am

The gop can’t self reflect because it is too ugly for them to look at and change.

They will continue to lose until they do.

Forget the gop and focus on our country and middle class.

Ashley Judd Touted as Sen. McConnell Challenger

November 8th, 2012
11:40 am

Movie star Ashley Judd is being touted by Democrats as a potential top challenger to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in 2014, but it’s unclear whether the Kentucky native is seriously considering a bid for public office.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/judd-mconnell-senate-2014/2012/11/08/id/463352

Patrick

November 8th, 2012
11:40 am

Thusla–

“You’re the same guy who claimed a year ago that you had a photogenic memory”

I’m pretty certain you meant “photographic” memory, but maybe you were just saying he had a beautiful mind! :)

Mary Elizabeth

November 8th, 2012
11:40 am

It is interesting that I just posted the following comments on Kyle Wingfield’s blog which are also pertinent to the content of this thread.
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” ‘Republicans have to explain why conservative ideas are good for minorities. . .It will take more than talking, though. It will take action.’
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I believe that, besides explaining and passing laws that are beneficial to minorites, Republicans must look inside themselves and become more reflective regarding their true perceptions of minorities, in order to win minorities to their political party. Republicans must (as a group) begin to see minorities through different eyes, imo. Minorities are very aware of the unspoken perceptions of others toward them.

Republicans, in other words, must begin to see minorities with more of an egalitarian heart and mind, than they have demonstrated that they have seen minorities in the past, in order to increase the numbers of minorities who will join their political party.”

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Becoming more reflective would help conservatives of the South and West also to realize that not only are seniors the beneficiaries of government programs such as VA benefits, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid (of which they point the finger to minorities) but that the entire populations of Red states, composed of people of all ages and ethnic groups, receive more government entitlements for their populations, than do the populations of the more liberal Blue states. Perhaps the cynicism against government programs in the South and West stems from self-dislike projected to others. The solution, then, is neither to judge oneself nor others harshly, as well as to realize that we are all in this “American experiment” together. It is better that we pool our resources for the benefit of all than that we waste energy and time pointing the finger to others regarding their selfishness.

NOTE ASIDE: The choice of Barack Obama for a second term as President of the U.S. has had an impact on this nation for generations that few of us have yet realized. Civil rights, women’s rights including reproduction rights and wages, possibly gay rights, middle class growth and viability, lower class programs for inclusion into the middle class, education and prison programs, safety net programs, energy and global warming programs, Supreme Court Justices, deficit reduction that is accomplished in a sound, prudent way over time, the continuation of universal health care for all, the U.S. as a leader on the world’s stage through diplomacy more than through dominance, and an egalitarian vision of others instead of a hierarchial one for humanity were all on the line in this election – as well as many other issues not listed here – had President Obama not been re-elected. He was voted into the presidency 4 years ago immediately following a financial collapse that few had anticipated. He was voted into re-election immediately following a Perfect Storm hurricane that few could foresee coming. Oh, the mysteries of life and destiny. All who can see, will see.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
11:40 am

Well we see Nero is a “real” american. :roll:

Paul

November 8th, 2012
11:41 am

Sad. Just goes to show how a person who’s educated, who touts his education and teaching of American history, can look at current situations and arrive at such unsupported conclusions.

Just once on Fox I’d like to hear a commentator say ‘it’s white seniors who get more free stuff than anyone. It’s the top 1% who get more free stuff than any welfare mom with five kids ever did.” Of course, the only data-driven response Fox would hear from its audience is “get rid of that guy promoting class warfare.”

All this tell me is the Republican Party will not be establishing a new business model anytime soon. They’ll continue to lose nationally to Democrats.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
11:41 am

nero,

Self deport con.

Divide and Conquer

November 8th, 2012
11:42 am

Deborah in Athens,

I agree with every word above, including Hillary being the first woman president. That is, unless the GOP can produce a real smoking gun from Libya. I dumped the GOP after GW’s election. I did vote for him once. My bad.

That being said, as an independent, it is not minorities that are the takers it’s the Democrats and RINO’s that are the takers. The masters of the GOP have just been much more efficient. The worst of the bunch, however, are the younger members of our society. They are the ones are the most entitlement minded. It’s one thing for people who have worked their whole lives to be demanding what they were promised, it’s another for some snot-nosed college kid to be demanding crap he/she has not earned.

Republicans need to do 3 things beside being actually fiscally conservative:
lifted from reason.com
1.Welcome immigrants
2.End the stupid drug war.
3 Get out of the dang bedroom.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
11:42 am

I am sure when Doomsy said photogenic, he was “just kidding”. Can’t you tell? :roll:

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
11:42 am

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
11:37 am

Watch out Fred, Doomsy is about to lose it and melt down, just as he did last night. :lol: He’s not taking this election loss well at all.
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Is he? I wouldn’t know, I put his lying ass on ignore when he showed his stupidity on the Charter school thing. It’s one thing to be ignorant on a subject, we all are ignorant about something, but he showed stupidity in his refusal to educate himself when presented with facts. I have no time for stupid people who have neither honor nor integrity. He can type all he wants, I’ll just be scrolling by it as he has nothing lucid or sane to add to any conversation.

CJ

November 8th, 2012
11:42 am

Great, great piece Jay! (As usual).

(With respect to your previous post, I wish you’d take a look at this analysis by Steve Benen: http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/11/08/15023224-boehner-tells-obama-my-offer-is-this-nothing?lite)

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
11:43 am

frog

We’re already headed in that direction. I joke around with Canadians in that the only difference between them and us are the passports. It’s come about as a business necessity as many of our domestic companies have expanded to Mexico and Canada. There has to be almost seamless transfer of goods and persons between the borders to meet the demands of our just-in-time business models.

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EC

I have noticed that Seattle has a very laid back attitude. You might be on to something there. Right now, they don’t do the international traffic that Hartsfield does, but when the logistics are figured out on how to enact the new laws, I can see Seattle becoming a lighter version of Amsterdam. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CslOIXporo

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
11:43 am

DownInAlbany

November 8th, 2012
11:36 am

Who’s on Medicaid, the government-financed health care program that Romney/Ryan proposed to slash? Among the non-elderly, some 43 percent are white, 22 percent are black and 28 percent are Latino. And who’s on food stamps? According to the Census Bureau, 59 percent are white.

Never mind that whites make up 72% of the the population, blacks, 13%, huh? Spin, spin, spin. Like I said yesterday: there is no such thing as “unbiased media.”
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Do you need plane fare and luggage too?

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
11:43 am

EC

You down in Mexico or haven’t went down yet?

F. Sinkwich

November 8th, 2012
11:44 am

“Pack your bags and GIT traitor.”

I didn’t vote for O’bozo.

Paul

November 8th, 2012
11:45 am

Okay, here’s a photogenic memory for anyone who wants one.

http://tinyurl.com/clu9oa3

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
11:45 am

“Never mind that whites make up 72% of the the population, blacks, 13%, huh? Spin, spin, spin. Like I said yesterday: there is no such thing as “unbiased media.””
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Even if you accept the “con logic,” more white peolple “choose” to take “handouts” than everybody all the minorities out together, right?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
11:45 am

Rove excuse so not to have to step out of the bubble: The president was also lucky. This time, the October surprise was not a dirty trick but an act of God. Hurricane Sandy interrupted Mr. Romney’s momentum and allowed Mr. Obama to look presidential and bipartisan.

Guess he has to come up with a way to get more money from them billionaires.

Cosby

November 8th, 2012
11:47 am

Yep it is the good old white guy’s fault. I have watched in my life as the Government has taken over the lives of primarily the black community and what have I seen. Destruction of the black family, pushed them into living in government subsidixed housing, made them dependent on the government for food etc. It has spilled over into the hispanic community and even , wow, the white community. When you have almost 50% of the population owing their means of living to government handouts, something is amiss. I have yet to hear the NAACP, any black congress person argue for support to bring the black, hispanic and now the white community back into self respect, self dependency and self respect. I look after some catastrophic even fire, wind etc, and I see people of all races and classes yelling into the microphone about “The Governemnt” should make them whole again. nothing about we can do this together and all jumping in helping each other weather the storm – so to speak. Blame the GOP, blame Bush, blame anyone you want but it sure is sad that the leaders, black white, red, pink etc push government dependency and keeps people on the rat infested plantation. Sad, Jay, very sad.

Paul

November 8th, 2012
11:47 am

But if someone says they have an eidetic memory, they probably look like this:

http://tinyurl.com/cfzvqhm

And if they don’t have one, the caption lets us know they’re a conservative on Jay’s blog.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
11:47 am

Nero

November 8th, 2012
11:38 am

Jeremiah Wright coined it perfect. G**damn America! I don’t care anymore. Screw this country. It deserves everything it gets as it gradually picks up speed in it’s spiraling decent into obscurity. Rome is burning and nothing will change. I’m gonna sit back and laugh while it all crashes on top of your pointy heads. My only hope is it burns hot and slow. That way all you leeches and charlatans all suffer excruciatingly slow before the end. The fire should be exquisite. I’ll bring the marshmallows.
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We REAl Americans would actually much rather that traitors such as yourself would just leave. Denounce your citizenship, leave our Country and never come back. i’ll help you pack. Do you need some cash for luggage or air fare? If it were up to me I’d even let you take all your money and possessions tax free just as long as you left and never EVER came back.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
11:48 am

F. Sinkwich

November 8th, 2012
11:44 am

“Pack your bags and GIT traitor.”

I didn’t vote for O’bozo.
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Oh is that traitor humor?

appleseed

November 8th, 2012
11:48 am

The world evolves as the Republicans stand still.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
11:48 am

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 8th, 2012
11:48 am

Brosephus™

We’ll turn this place into the real life version of “Trading Places” as many of the young and minority people want to succeed. We just don’t get the same opportunities to do that.

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I must have been channeling you.

I was looking for the gorilla love scene in Trading Places since it reminded me of how Palin looked on election night.

:-)

Thulsa Doom

November 8th, 2012
11:49 am

Keep up,

I handled the election loss very well as a couple of liberal bloggers noted yesterday. If I had a “meltdown” over it then please point out where. As for Fred I’m just not going to put up with his BS. Especially after the man insulted the intelligence of other people with his ridiculously grandiose feats of genius ability and actually thought some of us would believe that BS. Not Doomy. I’ll call his lying ass out on his BS.

Matti

November 8th, 2012
11:50 am

Know who’s a “taker?” Nathan Deal. Saxby Chambliss is another one. They’re doing very well for themselves and their friends and families. I think that’s because they live on the gubmint payroll year after year, taking our tax money, but yet, their personal bank accounts (and those of their family and friends) are getting HUUUUUUUGE. Nice business model they have going for themselves.

Wanna be a “taker” too? Get elected to an important public office in Georgia. You’ll have more friends shoving favors at you than you can process on your own, so you’ll have to put your family to work juggling it around for you. Sure, you’ll offer a few government favors — our tax dollars and interests — in return, but that’s what makes this country GREAT!

Of course, to be a “taker” in Georgia, you’ll have to become a Republican first. Democrats and working folks need not apply.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
11:50 am

As Aaron Sorkin said it … (the GOP’s) problem isn’t that they don’t get it … their problem is that they can’t sell it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWRVbWMvi7c

Ashley Judd Touted as Sen. McConnell Challenger

November 8th, 2012
11:51 am

Cosby

November 8th, 2012
11:47 am

How do you feel about jobs being outsourced and U.S. citizens placing money in offshore accounts? Do you think that Americans can answer the customer service call that are outsourced to India?

godless heathen

November 8th, 2012
11:51 am

JHM, (from downstairs)

Not sure I follow. If Cooter the Homeless Dude uses a Fed $ to buy a biscuit and a cuppa joe at the Golden Gallon, and Steve The Civilian Submarine Engineering Specialist spends a Fed $ at the same Golden Gallon for *his* biscuit and cuppa joe, what’s the difference?

The subs defend the whole nation and not just Georgia.

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

November 8th, 2012
11:51 am

Jay: “We lost by being better than they are. It’s not our fault and there’s nothing we can or should change.” He applies the powerful salve of moral superiority to a open wound, and by doing so he makes people feel better. People like to feel better, so they’ll come back to Fox for more.

They’ve been doing that for YEARS; not just last night. Their whole platform is “us” against “THEM”. THEY, those takers, don’t want to work — its really funny though that every time, on television, they show those long lines at Job Fairs, there are a whole lot of brown people in them that “don’t want to work”.

But O’Reilly’s wrong. He’s wrong as a matter of politics, he’s wrong as a matter of morality, and he’s wrong as a matter of history. His listeners are equally wrong to believe him. To the degree that they continue to do so, they are likely to experience more tough election nights

Dudley, when I first met him, was a virulent, flag waving, Republican — what turned him to the Independent Party was the rhetoric coming out of his former party. They’re against gays and gay marriage, his sister is gay and married to her partner. They’re against the “brown people”, his wife, his inlaws, niece and nephew are brown. Dudley’s world changed, and with that change his worldview and attitude changed. His reality changed.

Republicans have painted themselves into a corner. If they end up stuck there, that’s THEIR problem.

Mike

November 8th, 2012
11:51 am

Jay, your column today is spot on. I have done a lot of thinking over the last couple of days and, Republicans have got to make changes or they will vanish. They keep blaming some imagined creature that lost them this election. It was not the 10-15% of people they want to point at, it was their own who voted for Obama and they just won’t believe it.

Nero

November 8th, 2012
11:51 am

No thanks. I’d rather watch you all burn

nelson

November 8th, 2012
11:52 am

I feel good. We are headed towards a “feel good” society where all work for the common good of the whole. No more of that traditional capitalism where, striving mightily could land a worker at the top with millions of net worth. Now, we are all for each other,a new society where happiness and tranquility reign supreme. It is great, no more of everyone thinking of themselves and getting ahead of the neighbors. Now, going to a Georgia-Georgia Tech game, the opponent can score all the touchdowns he wants and vicea-versa.

Nero

November 8th, 2012
11:53 am

I can’t wait for the implosion. It’s gonna be magnificent !!!

rightwingextreme

November 8th, 2012
11:53 am

King of Planet Kolob

November 8th, 2012
11:05 am
And the biggest moochers and takers of all are those who make millions but pays 0% – 15% on their taxes while the rest of us pays 30% on a tens of thousand.

I call BS on this….no way you’re paying 30% tax rate on your 1040 form.

Do you know the difference between taxes on income and investments? Doubt it.

Learn your stuff before you show your stupidity. typical obamite.

DownInAlbany

November 8th, 2012
11:54 am

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
11:43 am

DownInAlbany

November 8th, 2012
11:36 am

Do you need plane fare and luggage too?

First of all, I still believe the US is the GREATEST country on the face of God’s earth! But, are you telling me that just because I disagree, just because I point out the spin of the libs, that I’m welcome to leave the country? Thank you, Fred, for once again proving that both libs and cons can be equally hypocrits. And, you stand in the front of the line!

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
11:54 am

Brocephus: One of my favorite lines from that movie comes just seconds after that clip ended. The General yells at his men, “You men go northward, you go southward, I’m gonna walk here around in a circle……….

godless heathen

November 8th, 2012
11:55 am

Midori I want my social security benefits when I’m eligible.

You know, the same benefits I’vecontributed to during my entire life as a working person.

Word. We have a deal with the government. Guv takes 14% of my income for my entire working life in exchange for a pittance to be returned to me after I retire.

That’s a freebie?

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
11:56 am

NoCom

:)

Check the vid I put up at 11:43 because that’s probably going to be the commercial for the Denver and Seattle Tourism Board in the near future. Denver’s going to really be the “Mile High” city now. :lol:

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
11:57 am

“We are headed towards a “feel good” society where all work for the common good of the whole. No more of that traditional capitalism where, striving mightily could land a worker at the top with millions of net worth.”

I see the fine folks of Colorado are joining us on this blog …

Lord Help Us

November 8th, 2012
11:57 am

Sock puppet alert…

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
11:57 am

“I can’t wait for the implosion. It’s gonna be magnificent !!!”

Based on your posts, your “implosion” is already taken place. The wait is over..

:-)

GT

November 8th, 2012
11:57 am

The GOP is in deep trouble, their main support is in the Deep South, not exactly a poster child for success themselves and they can’t see the playing field being so far away from it. The Latino vote that they practically locked the door on this year is growing by double digits every election. Another thing that is happening for the first time in America, those “liberal” young voters, unlike their parents and generation before them, are staying “liberal” now in their late 30s with the new generation in their 20s adding to the numbers coming into voting age.

One of the problems with the right is anything in the middle is described as liberal instead of moderate. Newt even goes as far as calling it socialism to add a little more spin. You cannot insult your way to a presidency or scare your women voters or Latino voters, and then like an abusive husband ask for forgiveness. This will be the closest the GOP ever comes to an election and it was a 2 billion dollar loss. Look how much money your boy Murdock made off your mystery. Don’t you fools ever get tired of being played?

Nero

November 8th, 2012
11:58 am

The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire. We don’t need no water let that mother****** burn!!!!

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
11:58 am

Nero,

Go ahead and leave – America doesn’t need quitters.

Or, are you going to sit around and just “take” without contributing? America needs people who want to build a better future.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
11:58 am

Nero

November 8th, 2012
11:51 am

No thanks. I’d rather watch you all burn
++++++++++++++++++++++

We won’t. DESPITE the efforts of mooching traitorous Republicans, we will over come.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
11:59 am

Sorry Doomsy….. you can find your own name calling meltdown on your own. Your petty insults only demonstrate your inability to deal with your issues. Perhaps you need to address your own dishonesty and lack of credibility. Quit spreading the bull.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
12:00 pm

Fred

I hear Denver’s talking about replacing the bronco statue at the entrance to the airport with one of Mighty Joint. :)

————————-

Guv takes 14% of my income for my entire working life in exchange for a pittance to be returned to me after I retire.

That’s a freebie?

According to the logic of some Americans. It’s an entitlement that deserves to be cut. Nevermind the fact that you’ve paid your hard earned money into that “entitement” over the entire course of your working life. That’s why I despise the term “entitlement” altogether when people talk politics. It’s pure bullsh*t to call something an entitlement when you’ve busted your ass and paid into it the entire time you’ve been working, and that goes double for business owners who have to pay both parts for themselves.

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
12:00 pm

The GOP lost because of Romney, not because who voted. If he was not a radical liar or a real normal American who banks at home, he would have have a good chance considering all the crap the country had to go thru after 8 years of GOP damage and 4 years of the republicans in congress, throwing little chit balls in the fan.

The tragic demise of a once-great country

November 8th, 2012
12:02 pm

In the future, when historians determine the date when the United States went over the cliff into chaos and oblivion, that date will be November 6, 2012, the day the deadbeats and morons took over the country.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:02 pm

Has there been any sigtings of the following?

kayaker, Joseph, Ahem, Ben Shockley, Liberal Pariah, Town Crier, USMC, etc. etc…

I’m sure they have been around, most in disguise or just looking in.

If so, greetings and salutations…

You would have surely been around had the outcome been different. There is no need to be shy now.

:-)

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

November 8th, 2012
12:02 pm

The CONS love this racist B.S. that pinheads like Oreily, Rush Boortz bark out of there stoopid pie hole’s . They are all on the fast track to there own demise…..LOSERS…

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:03 pm

Nero

Come out of the “closet” and tell us who you were before Tuesday night…………

It is ok, little buddy

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
12:03 pm

tragic is full.

Welcome to the Occupation

November 8th, 2012
12:04 pm

Looks like the natives are growing restless. Self-immolation anyone?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/higher-education/obama-re-election-protest-escalates-at-univ-of-mississippi-racial-slurs-2-arrests-reported/2012/11/07/1722d70a-2946-11e2-aaa5-ac786110c486_story.html?tid=pm_politics_pop

Obama re-election protest escalates at Univ. of Mississippi; racial slurs, 2 arrests reported

JACKSON, Miss. — A protest at the University of Mississippi against the re-election of President Barack Obama grew into crowd of about 400 people with shouted racial slurs as rumors of a riot spread on social media. Two people were arrested on minor charges.

The university said in a statement Wednesday that the gathering at the student union began late Tuesday night with about 30 to 40 students, but grew within 20 minutes as word spread. Some students chanted political slogans while others used derogatory racial statements and profanity, the statement said.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
12:05 pm

“The GOP lost because of Romney, not because who voted. If he was not a radical liar…”

===========

1) No republican can run for president without winning the primary.
2) No republican can win the primary without committing to positions that are anathema to most Americans.

The republican nominee HAS to be a liar, or he can’t get elected.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
12:05 pm

“Guv takes 14% of my income for my entire working life in exchange for a pittance to be returned to me after I retire.”

a pittance? it will support you from your mid-60s through the rest of your life – it’s cost-adjusted (401Ks are not) plus, if you die young, will provide benefits for your children. It’s meant to be a SUPPLEMENT to your retirement, not your entire living.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:06 pm

First of all, I still believe the US is the GREATEST country on the face of God’s earth! But, are you telling me that just because I disagree, just because I point out the spin of the libs, that I’m welcome to leave the country? Thank you, Fred, for once again proving that both libs and cons can be equally hypocrits. And, you stand in the front of the line!

You have severe comprehension problems. I never told you to leave the Country. I ASKED you if you needed air fare or luggage like those others who are telling us this Country is done. I’m sick of their traitorous asses and traitorous lies. I merely wanted confirmation that you either are or are not one of them. Since it would seem, despite your poor reading comprehension skills, that you are one of us and not one of them, you might also want to donate to the fund to help rid us of the traitors……..

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:06 pm

Nero — “I don’t care anymore. Screw this country. It deserves everything it gets as it gradually picks up speed in it’s spiraling decent into obscurity. Rome is burning and nothing will change. I’m gonna sit back and laugh while it all crashes on top of your pointy heads.”

And you people call yourselves “patriots.” :roll:

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
12:07 pm

Baby crys about paying SS and the check he gets, but its insurance too — benefits for wifes and kids if you die early, disablility. Its an obligation not and entitlement. The GOP wants to dump its responsibilty and stiff Americans.

Thulsa Doom

November 8th, 2012
12:07 pm

So fantastical Fred regurgitates bookmans post and then claims he’s educated on the subject. Too funny. At least he was able to use that remarable photographic memory of his to rehash Jays column point for point. I guess the photographic memory took precedence over the genius IQ which would have required the man to actually think for a change.

DannyX

November 8th, 2012
12:07 pm

“Now, going to a Georgia-Georgia Tech game, the opponent can score all the touchdowns he wants and vicea-versa.”

Nelson, I see you are a big fan of socialist college football.

godless heathen

November 8th, 2012
12:07 pm

Obama re-election protest escalates at Univ. of Mississippi; racial slurs, 2 arrests reported

Two arrests! OMG it’s a wholesale insurrection. Back in the day we had more arrests than that at a kegger.

Erwin's cat

November 8th, 2012
12:08 pm

BOTH

In Queretaro as I type…a very nice old colonial town….a wide variety of tequila to pass the evenings…My meetings are a little boring today so I’m checkin in here to look busy :D

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:08 pm

Are you kidding?! I’m not going anywhere! This self-immolation is going to be f’ing brilliant!!! Think I may even start mooching a little before the rest of you takers leave the cupboard bare. Hang on let me get the popcorn..

bookman parrot

November 8th, 2012
12:08 pm

you are partially correct jay; “takers” do come in all shapes, sizes, ethnicities, … etc whites included. and i can agree that Repubs did a poor job of convincing people of that; but you and yours did a pretty good job of half-truthing to convince people it was a conspiracy against minorities

you do miss that “illegals” are takers in a way, as they are not paying into the system (income taxes) yet take services; this is not to say that many do not work and work hard and at tough jobs. if you had any backbone you would state that people that have ability to work but have just chosen to stay on the public dole are “takers”. i don’t know how anyone would ever disagree. well anyone but the taker.

lastly you did miss the part that the Dem spin machine falsely stated that the clock would roll back and all latinos would be thrown out and slavery would return. what a crock that was spun. and too many bought the lie. the last Repub was Bush Jr. and i don’t recall a decline in latino population or a concerted effort to remove legal latinos AND i don’t recall slavery during those eight years…

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:08 pm

Paul — “Okay, here’s a photogenic memory for anyone who wants one.”

I’m not clickin’ on that. It’s probably GOATSE or something else disgusting. :)

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
12:08 pm

“And you people call yourselves “patriots.””

fair weather patriots, maybe?

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
12:09 pm

COMMONSENSE
11;27

Couldn’t agree more about GOP but I think it goes beyond media as IMO the big money, on either DEMs of GOPS comes from the fringes..evangelicals, unions et al…

When the media became news, we all got screwed..

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:10 pm

G. Heathen — “The subs defend the whole nation and not just Georgia.”

Point well taken. Thanks for following up. :)

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
12:10 pm

Nero is a baby traitor, in fact.

mm

November 8th, 2012
12:10 pm

Cons even tell lies to themselves and believe them.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
12:10 pm

EC

You flying back through Hartsfield?

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:11 pm

The tragic demise of a once-great country

November 8th, 2012
12:02 pm

In the future, when historians determine the date when the United States went over the cliff into chaos and oblivion, that date will be November 6, 2012, the day the deadbeats and morons took over the country.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Here is another traitor who needs to go. You renounce your citizenship, leave and NEVER come back and I’ll pay your airfare the hell out of our great Country. I’m sick of traitors like you bringing us down. Need luggage? Need help packing? Whatever it takes to be shut of your traitorous ass I’m willing to do.

Jay

November 8th, 2012
12:11 pm

By the way, in the interest of full disclosure, I should admit that the electoral model that I bragged about back in September — http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/09/28/heres-the-math-behind-the-2012-presidential-race — proved to be badly out of whack and will have to be adjusted in future presidential cycles.

My model predicted an Obama win with 331.014 electoral votes. If and when they finally give him Florida, he’ll have 332 EVs, which means that I was off by 0.986 votes. I’m going to have go back, take the model apart and figure out where I went wrong.

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:11 pm

Take your patriotism and cram it! I could care less what you call me. I won’t give two squirts while you all burn. Can’t wait to sift through your ashes.

godless heathen

November 8th, 2012
12:12 pm

a pittance? it will support you from your mid-60s through the rest of your life – it’s cost-adjusted (401Ks are not) plus, if you die young, will provide benefits for your children. It’s meant to be a SUPPLEMENT to your retirement, not your entire living.

It’s robbery for the people that work their entire lives. And if you die young after your children are grown the balance does not go into your estate, it’s just gone.

NTL, not a “freebie”.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
12:12 pm

“You flying back through Hartsfield?”

if he says he’ll meet you, don’t believe him!!!

:-P

Thulsa Doom

November 8th, 2012
12:12 pm

Keep up the sorry fight,

Speaking of issues I see that you’re still consumed with me. In all seriousness you really should see a shrink about these fixations you get with other bloggers. C R E E P Y.

Karl Rove

November 8th, 2012
12:12 pm

I didn’t realize that many stupid people existed? Speaking of existance……where are we on Benghazi? I’ll be watching the View & Letterman for updates!

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:12 pm

EC

Enjoy the libations. I hope the commerce part of the trip goes well. Be safe and enjoy.

Back in 2006, I used to have to go to Guadalajara on business. A week at a time for 5 months. Great times.

SwamiDave

November 8th, 2012
12:12 pm

Joe Hussein Mama: (posted below, but appropriate for this thread as well)

Fair enough. If our Leaders (Democrat & Republican) approach the discussion in the way that you and I just did, there’s a possibility of getting to some resolution.

I’ve got no problem with a property owner (in our case, the U.S. Government) negotiating the royalties it receives from resources that are produced from its land. Frankly, its good business sense because both parties only benefit with the recovery. The alternative (in places like off our Gulf Coast) is simply that other interests tap the same reserves in international waters and we get nothing.

Likewise, implementing policies that promote economic growth leads to year-over-year increases in tax revenues as evidenced by both historical figures from both Kennedy, Reagan, & Clinton.

We disagree on a lot. The current logger-head results from a lack of trust.

In my opinion, American Taxpayers have been lied to in every “budget compromise” in history. Tax increases occur immediately while spending cuts are either “reductions in rates of growth” (aka less of an increase than planned) or ignored altogether (because the recipients of the program / benefit / transfer payment “need” it). Speaking as an individual, I have no interest in another “compromise” that confiscates what I earn, but releases the beneficiaries from their end of the agreement.

The onus is not on America’s Taxpayers; we have done our job. It is up to the beneficiaries of programs, benefits, and transfer payments to accept the responsibility for their own lives and quit expecting others to do for them what they should do for themselves.

If they are willing to work in cooperation to resolve the mess that we are currently in, great – let’s work.

We shall see.

-SD

ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT

November 8th, 2012
12:12 pm

CONS love sucking on the Fox news titty. Enjoy the spoiled milk …LOSERS>>>

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:13 pm

Occupation — “The university said in a statement Wednesday that the gathering at the student union began late Tuesday night with about 30 to 40 students, but grew within 20 minutes as word spread. Some students chanted political slogans while others used derogatory racial statements and profanity, the statement said.”

Gosh, IF ONLY our cons were here to denounce this the same way they denounced Occupy Wall Street!

Yeahrite. :roll:

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
12:14 pm

Jay – just link to Nate, the man of the hour!! :-)

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:14 pm

Jay

Are you the AJC’s Nate Silver or is Nate Silver really Jay Bookman?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
12:15 pm

heading home early tonight … have a good one!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
12:15 pm

Jay, you really need to stop using that Republican Math.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:15 pm

Jay — “My model predicted an Obama win with 331.014 electoral votes. If and when they finally give him Florida, he’ll have 332 EVs, which means that I was off by 0.986 votes. I’m going to have go back, take the model apart and figure out where I went wrong.”

I think that Dean Chambers’ gravitational pull (the “Unskewed Polls” guy) somehow got all up in yr math and discombobulated the cosine from the mean. :D

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:15 pm

Just remember one thing leeches. All Americans were born as traitors. I’ll wear it as a badge of honor.

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
12:16 pm

JAY

Your response was telling…can you explain to me further exactly how those particular comments are racist and how in the verbiage they are directly solely to hispanics and the like?

You above all others should be careful in the use of the term racist…love to see you go on his program and debate his racists ways..

I thought the definition included an amount of control over the subject class as opposed to bigotry..

Pick an appropriate label…your complete mis use of the word is surprising from a professional writer..do you view his comments as animosity or percpetion that one class is better than the others?

You can do better..

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:17 pm

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:11 pm

Take your patriotism and cram it! I could care less what you call me. I won’t give two squirts while you all burn. Can’t wait to sift through your ashes.
++++++++++++++++++++

Don’t hold your breath traitor. We’ll be just fine. Hell, we’ll be better than fine. It’s a great day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4tSE2w53ts

Paul

November 8th, 2012
12:17 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

Me, provide a link one shouldn’t click on?

NeVah!

Just a pic of a brain with various regions in bright, happy colors.

Bright colors. Photogenic. Get it?

JAY

I’m so glad you set the blog example, admit the error of your ways, apologize and show an ability to change when you come up short.

Just couldn’t believe you blew it so badly in the first place. What happened to you, man?!!? Write the thread after a night at Manuel’s?

SwamiDave

November 8th, 2012
12:18 pm

Jay:

I’m going to have go back, take the model apart and figure out where I went wrong.

LOL!

In my younger days, this is about the time I’d get a 15 yard penalty for “Unnecessary Roughness” after that spike of the football. Think I’ll go review the pictures and correct mistakes for the next play instead! ;)

-SD

Welcome to the Occupation

November 8th, 2012
12:18 pm

JHM: “Gosh, IF ONLY our cons were here to denounce this the same way they denounced Occupy Wall Street!”

Great point.

Scout?

Scout?

You there, Scout?

Think these kids had taken baths before their mayhem spree?

getalife

November 8th, 2012
12:18 pm

Nate Silver and Jay Bookman are credible.

cons just ignore them and use pretend math.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:19 pm

Karl Rove

November 8th, 2012
12:12 pm

I didn’t realize that many stupid people existed? Speaking of existance……where are we on Benghazi? I’ll be watching the View & Letterman for updates!
+++++++++++++++++++

You need a new set of talk radio/Fox lies there pal. That one has already FAILED. Man are you slow……..

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
12:19 pm

How funny. When you reply to a specific Doomsy post directed to you….he then whines about you being fixated with him. Guess he is really melting down. He’s taking this whole election loss so very badly.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:20 pm

SD — “Fair enough. If our Leaders (Democrat & Republican) approach the discussion in the way that you and I just did, there’s a possibility of getting to some resolution.”

“We disagree on a lot. The current logger-head results from a lack of trust.”

As I’ve said repeatedly (despite the refusal of some of our con regulars to believe it), I voted Republican for 20+ years of my adult life. I’m *not* insensitive to the conservative position, nor am I ignorant of it.

That said, I’m willing to accept pain in the negotiations to get our national debt under control so long as it’s spread around and both sides show their cards. It’s clear that the Grover Norquist ‘no taxes EVAR’ approach isn’t working and won’t start to, either. So IMO, we need to get both sides serious about the problem.

“If they are willing to work in cooperation to resolve the mess that we are currently in, great – let’s work.”

I’m totally down with that.

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
12:21 pm

The hijacked and hemorrhaging GOP deserves Bill O’Reilly.

And the plethora of their other slimeball talking heads…

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:21 pm

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:15 pm

Just remember one thing leeches. All Americans were born as traitors. I’ll wear it as a badge of honor.
++++++++++++++++

And here he adds liar to the traitor label. Benedict “Pinocchio” Arnold. A proud LYING traitorous moocher.

Thulsa Doom

November 8th, 2012
12:22 pm

Keep up,

Sure buddy. If you say so…

Bill O'Reilly

November 8th, 2012
12:22 pm

Watch tonight we will be explaining free stuff vs. working for your own stuff!

MaJo

November 8th, 2012
12:22 pm

Both conservatives and liberals like to talk about how much they love freedom and choice, but they really mean only the kinds of freedom and choice of which they approve. They want us all to live within the boundaries they set according to their values.

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:22 pm

This whole traitor thing is liberating! I need to get me on of those Guy Fawkes masks. I’ll be able to blend in perfectly with the other leeches and “patriots”.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:23 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
12:19 pm

How funny. When you reply to a specific Doomsy post directed to you….he then whines about you being fixated with him. Guess he is really melting down. He’s taking this whole election loss so very badly.
+++++++++++++++++

Don’t forget to wash when you are done playing with him. I would also suggest penicillin……

getalife

November 8th, 2012
12:24 pm

nero,

The leeches are corporate welfare.

What about those leeches that don’t need our money nero?

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
12:24 pm

Erwin's cat

November 8th, 2012
12:24 pm

Bro – Coming thru on Hartsfield Sunday @ 17:30
you working?

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
12:25 pm

A party that will run a Romney is just D U M B.

Child, please

November 8th, 2012
12:25 pm

“People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?”

Call me a fool, but I don’t see one thing racist/sexist/ or anything else “ist” about that statement. Hit the election on the head. One candidate promised (he won’t deliver as he has not for the last four years on most of his promises) more to the people than the other. He won. Simple. People like to be told “yes”, not “no”. One candidate promised “yes”, one did not.
The amazing thing is that even after all the broken promises and poor job performance of the last four years, people think the President is going to change or that he has more to offer ? Good luck with that….

Paul

November 8th, 2012
12:25 pm

Stevie Ray

Jay may not engage with what he sees as a clear quote, so I’ll have a go.

““The white establishment is now the minority”

White people were once the majority but are now the minority. So the nonwhites are now the majority.

“And the voters, many of them,”

He didn’t say the majority, he said ‘many.’ But he segued from the previous majority, the whites. He prefaced that remark by saying ‘the demographics are changing, it’s not a traditional country any more.”

Then he continued with ‘many of them feel that the economic system is stacked against them and they want stuff. You are going to see a tremendous Hispanic vote for President Obama. Overwhelming black vote for President Obama. And women will probably break President Obama’s way. People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?”

So it seems pretty plain.

indigo

November 8th, 2012
12:26 pm

The Republican Party is dominated by far-right Tea Party fundamentalist Christians. These people are rigid and narrow minded in their thinking and it’s next to impossible for them to show consideration for any viewpoints contrary to theirs. Because of this, it’s possible we’ll get a lot of lip service comments about change from the Republicans but, in fact, no actual real change.

Maybe, after losing two or three more elections, cold hard reality will trump scripture.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
12:26 pm

Sockpuppet theatre & meltdowns

I see its taking a couple of days to sink in. I expected this yesterday.

a late surge if you will, heheh

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
12:26 pm

JAMVET

In your view, what makes one talking head more slimeball than another?

Anytime Jay, O’Reilly, and the like make the media news, suggests to me that there isn’t remotely enough real news to report..

Citizen of the World

November 8th, 2012
12:26 pm

If the GOP can direct the angry/fearful white man’s attention toward the poor and minorities as the threat, then that takes their eyes off the true threat, which is often “the man,” whom Romney epitomizes.

One big problem for the GOP is that not all white people are angry and fearful. President Obama was not elected by the poor and minorities alone.

Tom Middleton

November 8th, 2012
12:26 pm

Well, you know how it is, Jay: This current crop of self-defeating conservatives hide behind their ideological walls of extreme selfishness and self-delusion and think their guns and threats of violence will protect them from freedom for all.

But freedom is going to win anyway and there’s nothing they can do about this, except, of course, to get with the program and learn to be free themselves!

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:27 pm

E. Cat — “Coming thru on Hartsfield Sunday @ 17:30″

Turn the x-ray mo-sheen up to HIGH and make Cat take a ride on the belt.

Can’t be too safe, you know. :D

straitroad

November 8th, 2012
12:27 pm

Jay, I don’t know where you’re from or what your background is, but I suspect that you lack the proper perspective to be an authority on the issue of prejudice.

Native Atlantan

November 8th, 2012
12:28 pm

Hmmmm…Nero is sounding more like Ahem every post….or Pee Wee Herman…can’t decide…

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:28 pm

Dear getalife,

Obama phone!!

Sincerely,

Traitor

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
12:28 pm

Thanks Fred…. I would like to borrow a statement from Brian Williams who accurately described Trump.

Donald Trump Doomsy, who has driven well past the last exit to relevance and peered into something closer to irresponsible here, is tweeting posting.”

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
12:29 pm

The reason the GOP and their supporters spew and rationalize all this chit is because their main character flaws are they know everything and everyone else is stupid. But they are the ones mad and crying.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:29 pm

Jay

This article in my opinion relates to your article from yesterday regarding the conservative media.

My take was slightly different. The conservative media didn’t fail their audience. Their audience let themselves down. Conservative media is just selling what many on the right want to hear and read. Not all by any means, but many of their followers are not looking for any other information that would possibly conflict with the narrative already in their minds. It is an easy sell that is demonstrated by your article yesterday, this article, and some of the websites and “headlines” linked on your blog every day.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:30 pm

Nero — “Sincerely, Traitor”

(whip-crack noise)

(makes “L” hand gesture)

LOSER! Move On! :D

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
12:30 pm

PAUL

How do those comments relate to the definition of racist? Both you and Jay should consult your dictionaries..O’Reilly is no more a racist than Jay is..of course any chance to take the victory giddiness and go overboard with such terms is expected

Cheap and unfounded allegations of racism are the thoughts of the weak..you have any idea how often Al Sharpton has appeared on his show? You suppose Al would appear on his show if O’Reilly was racists..?

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

November 8th, 2012
12:30 pm

It’s part of the Republican mindset; the fear and blaming of The Other. It’s always got to be the fault of some easily identifiable group of people, and skin color and language help to make targeting easier.

Brown people are more easily distinguished in a crowd. Bro can probably tell you that there are a lot of “non-brown” people who are illegally in this country; however, in RINO land, they blend in better. :roll:

Winston Churchill

November 8th, 2012
12:31 pm

your GT fellow, angry little bugger needs to recall my expression:” those that are young and vote conservative have no heart, those that are old and vote liberal, have no brain”…but what do I know I played both sides pretty well, I guess it had something to do with serving the Queen and country first…..

As for your President, tough job, Bicker, Bicker, both “sides” sound like me before my 2 nd bottle of champagne in the morning ( I write better after 3 bottles). I see America “coming back” to the rest of the world.. You made us jealous for a while, but welcome back……I wonder who’ll write the Yankee version of “good bye to all that”….Good day all, For those of you inclined to gloat, it’s quite beneath you. For you who need to accept your defeat,work harder and learn, remember, I had to reinvent myself sveral times……

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:33 pm

Child, please

November 8th, 2012
12:25 pm

“People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?”

Call me a fool, but I don’t see one thing racist/sexist/ or anything else “ist” about that statement. Hit the election on the head. One candidate promised (he won’t deliver as he has not for the last four years on most of his promises) more to the people than the other. He won. Simple. People like to be told “yes”, not “no”. One candidate promised “yes”, one did not.
The amazing thing is that even after all the broken promises and poor job performance of the last four years, people think the President is going to change or that he has more to offer ? Good luck with that….
+++++++++++++++++++

You need a new set of talk radio lies, those ones are old and have FAILED.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:33 pm

quick follow up……..

Many on the left fit into the same mold as I described @ 12:29

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
12:33 pm

You suppose Al would appear on his show if O’Reilly was racists..?

A variation of the “I can’t be racist, I have friends who are black”?

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

November 8th, 2012
12:33 pm

The conservative media didn’t fail their audience. Their audience let themselves down. Conservative media is just selling what many on the right want to hear and read.

Sad. But true…………

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
12:33 pm

if he says he’ll meet you, don’t believe him!!!

That’s if you come through on a day where there’s an OB/GYN appointment. I am not about to anger Mrs. Brosephus. :)

————————-

Jay @ 12:11

Either way FL goes, you’re gonna need to recalibrate as you’re going to be wrong. :)

————————-

EC

I work the early Mexico flights. I’ll be in front of the tv watching football by the time you touch ground.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:34 pm

S. Ray — “You suppose Al would appear on his show if O’Reilly was racists..?”

Do you REALLY think that demonstrating a lack of racism is THAT easy?

deegee

November 8th, 2012
12:35 pm

My 50 year old Fox News loving sister-in-law that has worked maybe 1 year in her entire adult life has finally posted on Facebook. In anticipation of the onerous tax burden that she and my brother will be facing, she placed us on notice that she is adjusting their household budget and will be pinching all of the pennies that the government will allow them too keep. My brother has worked for 31years for a major oil company that is the recipient of big tax expenditures, and she wouldn’t know a budget if it came up and bit her on the behind.

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:36 pm

Joe,

Nah, I’d rather watch you burn

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:36 pm

Brosephus — “That’s if you come through on a day where there’s an OB/GYN appointment.”

OB-GYN Kenobi! (snicker) :D

Use the Forceps, Luke! Use the Forceps! :D

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
12:37 pm

Bro can probably tell you that there are a lot of “non-brown” people who are illegally in this country; however, in RINO land, they blend in better.

Yep!! Just as there are many “brown” people who are legal here but are perceived as being illegal because of their appearance.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:37 pm

Stevie Ray

I would not call Bill Oreily a racist. However I will say that for political reasons many folks on both sides of the aisle will exploit an issue with racially tinged language if they think there is something to gain.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:37 pm

Nero — “Nah, I’d rather watch you burn”

Sounds good, loser.

Sit in the back with the rest of the sickos and STFU, then. We’re busy working down here.

DwayneL

November 8th, 2012
12:38 pm

Not all minorities, just mexicans and blacks!

F. Sinkwich

November 8th, 2012
12:38 pm

“LAS VEGAS (CBS Las Vegas) — A Las Vegas business owner with 114 employees fired 22 workers today, apparently as a direct result of President Obama’s re-election.

“David” (he asked to remain anonymous for obvious reasons) told Host Kevin Wall on 100.5 KXNT that “elections have consequences” and that “at the end of the day, I need to survive.””

I sure hope David selected his layoff candidates by first making note of any O’bozo stickers on the cars driven by his employees.

godless heathen

November 8th, 2012
12:38 pm

The GOP wants to dump its responsibilty and stiff Americans.

Who said that?

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:38 pm

Jefferson,

Tell Weezy to keep warming those beans on the grill.

Sincerely,

Baby Traitor

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:38 pm

Brosephus — “Yep!! Just as there are many “brown” people who are legal here but are perceived as being illegal because of their appearance.”

My wife and I have certainly encountered that.

Wonder how racist Hawaii Republicans are? Whites are in the minority there, so how do they handle it?

booger

November 8th, 2012
12:39 pm

deegree,

Be interested in knowing what big tax expenditures oil companies are supposed to be getting.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
12:39 pm

MadMax

November 8th, 2012
12:40 pm

“Every generation in this country has re-interpreted the American dream in its own way, and nothing is going to stop that process.” One thing might – a full out and out depression when the weight of the accumulating debt comes home to roost. We keep kicking the can down the road but in the very near future we may not have the strength to kick that can. The can is not a white problem or an hispanic problem or an asian problem or a black problem. It is an American problem and when it comes back all will be required to sacrifice. IMO

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

November 8th, 2012
12:40 pm

Keep: Guess he has to come up with a way to get more money from them billionaires.

HA!! :lol:

You know i LIKE the fact that despite all the SuperPac money that was thrown at the election; Despite all the EMPLOYERS hinting at firing their workers; Despite the FEAR that Romney et al. tried to use as a wedge; Despite the CATHOLIC CHURCH trying to bring moralization, (finally — what happened to their morals during the pedophile abuse scandals), and “the church is being attacked!!” propaganda; Despite black ministers getting into their pulpits and saying “HOMOSEXUALS!!! Obama likes homosexuals!!” loudly and incessantly; despite all that…………

…………………..they all LOST. And AMERICA WON!!!

Take THAT fear mongers!!!

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:41 pm

I sure hope David selected his layoff candidates by first making note of any O’bozo stickers on the cars driven by his employees.

You mean like Neal’s buddy in Florida did? What fine American’s you both are, rejoicing in people losing jobs. No WONDER you are Republicans.

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:42 pm

Let it out Joe. It’s cathartic. You sounded a little constipated. Let me know if I can help some more, I’ll be right here watching you burn. – “Loser” Traitor

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
12:43 pm

Joe,

Ok fair point but can you provide me examples the O’Reilly has animosity toward, controls or otherwise thinks his race is superior?

Suggesting that both parties have their base and both base’s expect something is painfully obvious…

Oh, please provide an example that doesn’t involve blatant interpretation of the comment to serve, in this instance, Jays need to make this a contentious issue on this forum…sometimes you think you already know the answer regardless of credible support..

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
12:43 pm

Watch tonight we will be explaining free stuff vs. working for your own stuff!

BillO, being that I’m a ladies’ man like you, I’m working to buy me some falafel.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:43 pm

Hey Nero, the bridges I burn light my way forward. Gotta match?

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
12:44 pm

TOLD you we’d win Florida, Ohio & Virginia.

We’re 90k ahead with Miami & the Keys to count, whatcha think?

and 7 new wild savage residents soon. All democrats.
like my father/mother before me, and his father/mother before them.

godless heathen

November 8th, 2012
12:44 pm

Do you REALLY think that demonstrating a lack of racism is THAT easy?

Dunno, but you ask Joe Biden.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:45 pm

Fred

How funny these so called business owners forgot about the supply and demand curve they must have mastered at one time to become successful.

All their contracts and clients dried up yesterday?

If these stories are true, those folks were likely going to be laid off any way. It is an excuse to blame Obama.

What was Romney going to do as the President elect to save those jobs?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
12:46 pm

Debbie, I certainly agree that it is nice to see that money cannot buy all Americans. We’re going to have to wait and see how those idiot employers like the CEO clown at ASG respond. He’ll blame Obama for his own impending failure and unfortunately hurt a lot of good employees in the meantime all for his personal greed.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm

nero loves him some trillion dollar corporate and military industrial complex leeches.

Paul

November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm

Stevie Ray

It may be helpful at this point to have you define racism as we’re obviously not on the same page.

I just always thought stuff like lazy blacks, drunk Irishmen, dumb Swedes, Latinos coming here to get on welfare, all those kinds of things were racist – bigoted – labeling an entire ethnic group with negative stereotypes.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm

Stop feeding the sock puppet troll.

He will go away.

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm

Guv takes 14% of my income for my entire working life in exchange for a pittance to be returned to me after I retire.

You know, if I actually believed such a thing to be true, I’d probably be very bitter, myself.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm

Yo St. Simons: The wife is going to Vandy and the child to grandmommies on friday and neither will be back til Saturday night? How’s the weather down there? Any fish running?.

Jeffrey

November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:48 pm

I do. As well as some gasoline. Now hold still. We can all burn together. :)

Jay

November 8th, 2012
12:48 pm

In other words, all over the land, incompetent business people who can’t make a go of it will be blaming their own failure on Obama’s re-election. And all the while, they’ll also complain about people who won’t take personal responsibility.

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

November 8th, 2012
12:48 pm

I sure hope David selected his layoff candidates by first making note of any O’bozo stickers on the cars driven by his employees.

I sure hope David has a good attorney and can afford the class action lawsuit that would result on his targeting a subset of his employees for political reasons. :roll:

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm

BOTH

Thank you…news has become highly valued entertainment…it is very difficult to discern which is which…

I just get miffed when allegations of racism pop up in inappropriate places without any justification except thinking that that particular topic is similar to arguing whos at fault for what..

Sure racism exists but there are many REAL, easily identifiable racists out there than Jays attempt to paint a successful competitor as same..

godless heathen

November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm

You know, if I actually believed such a thing to be true, I’d probably be very bitter, myself.

What part don’t you believe?

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm

Stop feeding the sock puppet troll.

He will go away.
+++++++++++++++++

But Nero is a happy troll.

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm

No getaife. They can burn with the rest of you regular welfare leeches.

Jay

November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm

And folks, let’s calm down. I haven’t had to ban a single person yet this week, to my shock and amazement. I’m just starting to catch up on comments here, and I hope I can keep that record clean.

Thomas

November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm

First, nominate someone electable. Second, drop and fully separate your ideals on abortion and simply state that abortion should be in the hands of the mother and not the Supreme Court. Third, fade your on parties extremist. Fourth, talk about the interplay about all the nation’s problems- from the fiscal cliff to immigration reform. Lastly, for the love of god, grab the Indian/Asian population- a group that the media doesn’t even largely consider a minority.

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm

No Fred. I’m a sad troll.

bucket

November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm

“When you don’t have a record to run on, you paint your opponent as someone to run from.” Who said that? None other than the POTUS himself! All of the numbers were clearly not in the President’s favor. Unemployment: up, debt: rising (you could confiscate the combined wealth of the top 1% and it wouldn’t be enough to run the government for 2 months, gas prices: almost doubled, economy: very slow growth out of the recession ( and we may be headed for another if the incompetents on both sides can’t reach a deal). The “Kill Romney” strategy worked to perfection.

Paul

November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm

Stevie Ray

Just to clarify things: Jay did not say BOR was a racist, which is what I read you as saying. He wrote his comments came across that way.

Welcome to the Occupation

November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm

Nero: “I do. As well as some gasoline. Now hold still. We can all burn together. ”

Can you play fiddle? :)

godless heathen

November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm

BTW, I’m not bitter about Social Security. But like Midori, I’m just saying, when I draw my little check, don’t say I’m getting a freebie.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm

nero,

Well, that will get you kicked out of the gop tiny tent son.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:51 pm

Ok Nero, a SAD troll then. But you aren’t a mean bitter name calling troll. You fully accept your role as a traitor lol which is a plus in my book. I like folks who are self aware.

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:51 pm

I think more Americans need to come over to the Traitor side. It really opens your eyes.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
12:52 pm

What was Romney going to do as the President elect to save those jobs?

Romney was going to give them money to offset the lack of demand. In other words, the business owners were looking for the government to give them something.

Erwin's cat

November 8th, 2012
12:52 pm

JHM…easy on the belt ride….but the heavy X-ray should cure what i come back with :D

Bro – too bad…If i have a problem @ customs I’ll be sure and mention your name…and then be prepared to be handcuffed, strip searched, and relieved of my duty free tequila …. :wink:

getalife

November 8th, 2012
12:52 pm

godless,

SS is a return on your investment.

cons like nero call you leeches .

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
12:52 pm

JAY

So you got one example that may or may not pan out to be true….now it’s “all over the land”? Unemployed business folks are blaming their lack of success on Obama?

Sweeping generalizations…it seems to be the opinion of you and your more faithful sheep to assume that all the ills of this country are at the hands of the successful and the other party..

I wish I had your job, that dope Hannity’s job, or perhaps that dope Lawrence O’Donnell’s job..easy money…simply take all the ills of society and assign blame to others…

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:53 pm

bucket

November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm

“When you don’t have a record to run on, you paint your opponent as someone to run from.” Who said that? None other than the POTUS himself! All of the numbers were clearly not in the President’s favor. Unemployment: up, debt: rising (you could confiscate the combined wealth of the top 1% and it wouldn’t be enough to run the government for 2 months, gas prices: almost doubled, economy: very slow growth out of the recession ( and we may be headed for another if the incompetents on both sides can’t reach a deal). The “Kill Romney” strategy worked to perfection.
++++++++++++++++++++++

Dude, you NEED to get a new set of talk radio/FOX lies. We the people rejected that weak sauce set on Tuesday.

Come on now, I know you haven’t done it in a long time but TRY to think for yourself……….

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:53 pm

getalife,

Not your son, chief.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:53 pm

Nero — “Let it out Joe. It’s cathartic. You sounded a little constipated. Let me know if I can help some more, I’ll be right here watching you burn.”

Isn’t that CUTE!

Lil’ Nero sounds just like Benny! (giggling) :D

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
12:53 pm

Jay: I haven’t had to ban a single person yet this week, to my shock and amazement.

I can remedy that for you if you’re itching to ban someone. :)

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:54 pm

G. Heathen — “Dunno, but you ask Joe Biden.”

When did Joe Biden have a TV show?

getalife

November 8th, 2012
12:55 pm

nero,

Grow up son.

You lost .

Get over it.

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
12:55 pm

BRO

That was his exact platform and predictably, proved to be his undoing..however, putting something out there and actually getting it done, despite hysteria of the other side suggesting so, is silly…no shortage of marco stuff BO was going to do and didn’t even try…he is making the same promises all over again…why should anyone believe him?

Paul

November 8th, 2012
12:56 pm

Stevie Ray

“So you got one example that may or may not pan out to be true….now it’s “all over the land”? ”

It may be helpful to consider the original poster of the story, his history of… sweeping generalizations… conclusions based upon… something…..

to put Jay’s comeback in context.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
12:56 pm

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:51 pm

I think more Americans need to come over to the Traitor side. It really opens your eyes.
+++++++++++++++++++

Eyes wide open? You mean like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwBaS6m3q5c

godless heathen

November 8th, 2012
12:56 pm

I haven’t had to ban a single person yet this week, to my shock and amazement.

I had the under.

independent thinker

November 8th, 2012
12:56 pm

Biggest takers are the cons right here in red state GAwgia.-farmers get subsidies; SBA loans; defense contracts at outrageous pricestc.
Best example was the disclosure that Romneys invested one mil in Delphi with other vulture capital investors, then the investors demanded the government bailout Delphi’s pension and healthcare obligations or they would shut down the automakers by not supplying parts and after the bailout of Delphi, the Romneys in their phony trust made tens of millions off the taxpayers. .Guess where Delphi’s plants and jobs went- China. And that lyin SOB had the nerve to accuse GM and Chrysler of using bailout money to ship jobs to China. No wonder the auto workers filed a grievance!
Yes O’ Reilly, Sean, Rush, Boorts, Coulter and the cons it is all them minorities according to your sick minds who are stealing government money-keep dreaming.You deserved the ass whooping ya’ll got.

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
12:56 pm

What part don’t you believe?

The “pittance”. Should you be of average health and make it to retirement age and have an actuarially average lifespan thereafter, anyway; I don’t think that guaranteed income is a pittance at all, and it’s not exactly a lead pipe cinch that a privately funded annuity would give you a similar return, with COLAs and of course survivor bennies.

(Oh, and just to be nitpicky, it’s actually 12.4% for SS, but if you want to lump in Medicare it’s 15.3, except of course for the last coupla years, but whatevs.)

BTW, I’m not bitter about Social Security. But like Midori, I’m just saying, when I draw my little check, don’t say I’m getting a freebie.

I’m with you(ze) there.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
12:57 pm

S. Ray — “Joe, Ok fair point but can you provide me examples the O’Reilly has animosity toward, controls or otherwise thinks his race is superior?”

I didn’t make or advance the Racist O’Reilly argument. I simply pointed out that your *defense* of him was quite seriously wanting.

Whether he is or isn’t, the defense of ‘he had a black dude on his TV show lots of times’ is really pretty weak; don’t you agree?

Erwin's cat

November 8th, 2012
12:57 pm

Both…I forgot to reply

thanks for askin…I’m enjoying the area and looking forward to a little more central and south america travel..I truly love experiencing different cultures…
sorta ’splains why I post here often eh?

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
12:57 pm

EC

They’ll take real good care of you. ;)

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

November 8th, 2012
12:57 pm

What’s happened with the Republicans is they are, the Republican Party, is a Mad Men party in a Modern Family America. And it just doesn’t fit anymore. — Matt Dowd

Paul

November 8th, 2012
12:57 pm

“Not your son, chief.”

Do we have our first chagrined, post-election conservative blogger returning under a new moniker?

Nero

November 8th, 2012
12:58 pm

getalife,

I didn’t lose anything. This leech country lost. Own it leeches. Watching it all burn down around your heads will be entertaining. :)

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:58 pm

Bro

It is ludicrous and yet sad that people are buying into that crap.

He wouldn’t even take office until Jan. What legislation was going to be pushed through to save these jobs for people whose business owners do not have demand and or cash flow to pay them today?

It goes to my take on the “audience letting themselves down”.

Those buying it are not questioning what they were told right through Tuesday evening. They are doubling down at this moment.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
12:58 pm

Fred, the storm seems to have ran the fish off, and they
haven’t come back yet, with the exception of reds, if you like them.
The freshwater ponds on mainland are doin well, catfish & crappie
with the nip in the air (50deg)
Crabbing is good, shrimpin not good, wind’s up

but hey the margarittas & rum runners are good and most of the tourists
are gone. Overall it don’t suck and its 5 oclock somewhere

Partisay

November 8th, 2012
12:58 pm

USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 8th, 2012
11:32 am
“All he had to do was promise free stuff (healthcare, student loans, rubbers and whatnot) funded by undeserving ingrates (the “rich”) and it worked, easily!

RIP USA, 1776 – 2012″

Dang….student loans are free?? And I’ve been paying mine back all these years!

getalife

November 8th, 2012
12:58 pm

Not one con banned?

Come on cons, up your game.

Disappointing.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
12:59 pm

“sorta ’splains why I post here often eh?”

That was classic

:-)

Safe travels

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
1:00 pm

St Simons

Good call on FL. Thought it would be close, but going to Romney.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
1:01 pm

Damn St. Simons: I just remembered. I have to go fix an oven at noon tomorrow. I was about to call Brother O see if he wanted to do a road trip and start packing……….

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
1:01 pm

Lil’ Nero sounds just like Benny! (giggling)

yeah, took about four posts to suss that one out…

Partisay

November 8th, 2012
1:02 pm

“I wish I had your job, that dope Hannity’s job, or perhaps that dope Lawrence O’Donnell’s job..easy money…simply take all the ills of society and assign blame to others…”

You just described right-wing talk radio and cable!

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
1:02 pm

getalife — “Not one con banned?”

Can’t ban ‘em if they don’t come post.

First, they come back. Then come the meltdowns. THEN comes the banhammer. :D

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
1:02 pm

Stevie Ray

I don’t see a reason to believe in any of them. At the same time, we have to have hope and faith in all of them or we doom ourselves to failure. You seem so intent and focused on your disection of Obama that you seem to completely disregard the 535 who work under the Capitol Dome. Nothing against you personally, but when you continuously rail againt one person, it gives you the aroma of partisaned bitterness. If you’re seriously expecting Obama to do all that you claim, you’re looking more for a dictator than a president, and you’ll always be disappointed in the outcome.

AmericaShrugged

November 8th, 2012
1:03 pm

We’re approaching the cliff because neither side was willing to adapt the recommndations of the bi-partisan committee, which in short recommended balancing the budget at 21% of GDP by 2035. the balancing came from about 3/4 spending cuts and 1/4 increased tax revenues. An the increased tax revenues came by lowering the rates, broadening the base and cutting the spending (credits and deductions like mortgage interest, retirement and charitable contributions, etc.) in the tax code.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
1:04 pm

E. Cat — “sorta ’splains why I post here often eh?”

May your seat upgrades always come through. :)

Tom Middleton

November 8th, 2012
1:04 pm

DDR

They’re self-destructing right now, Deb, mostly out of self-pity. But soon enough, they’ll rise up like the Phoenix and blow stuff out their a$$. :)

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
1:04 pm

Here’s an embarrassing example of racism/racist remarks…they should do time for hate crimes..they probably, in an intellectual sort of ignorance, think they specifically won at Vicksburg and the south….

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/higher-education/obama-re-election-protest-escalates-at-univ-of-mississippi-racial-slurs-2-arrests-reported/2012/11/07/1722d70a-2946-11e2-aaa5-ac786110c486_story.html?tid=pm_pop

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
1:06 pm

I wonder how long USMC is gonna take to sober up and come back and post. Hell If I knew where he was on this bender I’d go join him. Drink a few, buy him a few, it don’t matter…………

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
1:06 pm

The liberal mantra/campaign slogan continues:

“The government is the only thing we all belong to”

getalife

November 8th, 2012
1:06 pm

Joe,

True, many cons are licking their wounds and cut and ran.

Immigration reform will get them back.

Hate for brown people is still too strong for them not to get their hate on.

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
1:07 pm

BRO

I think I’ve been an equal opportunity offender of BO, Congress and the likes of Romney…it is most definitely a group outcome…the system, as preferred by WH, Congress and the like, only allows outcomes that maintain the status quo…I do challenge BO’s leadership capabilities but they are certainly exceed by congressional leadership…

getalife

November 8th, 2012
1:08 pm

Fred,

Are you trying to get drunk with every blogger on this blog?

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
1:08 pm

Catch up Stevie Ray. That’s at least the third time that Ole Miss story has been posted that I’ve seen and I’ve been absent mostly. Hell I’m fixing to go absent now. I have a butt load of squash (different kinds) and I need to figure out how to cook it all. Looking at this recipe for spaghetti squash right now…….

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/spaghetti-squash-i/

Nero

November 8th, 2012
1:09 pm

The cons are just as pathetic as you Dems getalife. You’re just opposite sides of the same faded coin. Now hurry up and burn it all down. I’m bored.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
1:09 pm

getalife

We would have you in the mix if you were closer to the ATL.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
1:09 pm

getalife: It wasn’t a goal until you put it like that. Now it seems like a worthy endeavor lol. I get a few days off and I’ll drive down to the Big Easy and meet you at Pat O’s………

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
1:10 pm

oh and get? I still have to figure out which guy at The Hickory House is Oscar lol. I know he’s got to live within 2 miles of me.

deegee

November 8th, 2012
1:10 pm

Let’s set the record straight. We don’t pay SS taxes now so that we can have a benefit now. We pay SS taxes now so that someone that is retired now can have a benefit. The money doesn’t go into a lock box for you. It’s a socialist program that happens to be very popular. The demographic shift that is causing problems for the program has been on the radar since the 1960’s. If we would stop with the demagoguery we could resolve the problem now.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
1:11 pm

“Every generation in this country has re-interpreted the American dream in its own way, and nothing is going to stop that process.”

You are correct and that’s why we are in such big trouble. No nation is guaranteed true freedom or even its very existance forever.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
1:12 pm

nero,

You are boring.

I did change my registration to Dem because they voted against Medicare vouchers.

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
1:12 pm

JAY

I owe you an apology..lumping you in a category with Hannity and O’Donnell was not appropriate…my bad…it’s difficult to compete with that level of stupid and you certainly are not remotely dopey or the like one of them..

That was wrong..I get a bit overheated when the r word gets tossed around in ways that I think inappropriate..

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
1:13 pm

“We will burn together” – Nero

Anybody remember Tom Lehrer?

Oh we will all burn together when we burn.
There’ll be no need to stand and wait your turn.
When it’s time for the fallout
And saint peter calls us all out,
We’ll just drop our agendas and adjourn

getalife

November 8th, 2012
1:14 pm

Fred,

I like your goal.

Did you buy Jay a bourbon yet?

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
1:15 pm

FRED

I seem to be the last to know everything

What kind of squash? Any type lends itself to soup….many ways to go with that as I’m sure you know..

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

November 8th, 2012
1:16 pm

Tom – Too funny!! :lol: :lol:

Paul: Do we have our first chagrined, post-election conservative blogger returning under a new moniker?

Nah! not even close — there were a few who blogged yesterday, (under a different name). However I wanna give a big shout out to JM, Doom, and __________ (can’t remember the other one); who came on the blog, used their ORIGINAL Blog names, and took it like men.

They were polite, but they threw a couple of punches too. But at least they didn’t slink back like rabbits running from the fox.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
1:16 pm

scout,

Our country is not in trouble.

It might be in your mind but there are meds for that .

Go to the VA scout and tell them about our country in trouble and they will help you.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
1:17 pm

TBS – big fan, thanks. It was easy, you can feel the Fla vibe changing.

Fred – dam that oven, I’m puttin on a trailer hitch, & the toilet has trouble
flushing, but that’s probably ’cause its at sea level.

Paul

November 8th, 2012
1:17 pm

getalife

You do know how to attract them, you know that?

Stevie Ray

If more conservative bloggers followed your lead, Jay wouldn’t have to ban any of them.

But they won’t.

;-)

GT

November 8th, 2012
1:18 pm

I think you will see a different more empowered Obama this time around. The right has tried to beat up the alpha dog and twice have failed. In the coming debacle I see Obama using executive power to pay the bills if necessary. I love how the right thinks this is solely the discretion of the Congress. You have voted these laws in that cost money and if you do not pay them and it is to the detriment of the country the president has the power of executing executive authority.

I think O hesitated last time because he was being trapped by the Tea Party, and really wanted the country to know in its slow learning curve, how the reality of this “do nothing” Congress can damage the country. Now he has proof this kind of gamesmanship by the right will, not could, but will cause damage to the good name of the USA. What FOX and most of us don’t appreciate is Obama is damn near a genius or listens to one anyway. These people don’t make stupid moves and really make their living waiting for the right to make their half dozen a week. Like stealing candy from a baby.

Paul

November 8th, 2012
1:19 pm

DDR

Yeah, I always enjoy watching someone(s) who don’t even realize they’re supposed to be embarrassed!

getalife

November 8th, 2012
1:19 pm

Thanks Both,

I will let y’all know when I am back in Atlanta for a wedding and hopefully no more funerals.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
1:19 pm

Nero, you can only miss 7 days of school this year in Ga.

make this one count dude

unless you go to one of those jaysus-rode-the-dinosaur-for-profit-skools.

disgusted

November 8th, 2012
1:20 pm

Whiny White Boys…..Get over it!!!…We had to send a Black Man in to clean up a White boy’s mess…not once but twice.

HNIC will get things straightened out .No worries there.

Perhaps the Republikkkans in Washington will pay close attention and learn how things are properly done handling the people of the USA’s business and maybe, just maybe we ( Women, Blacks, Hispanics, Gays) will give you another chance at representing us.

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

November 8th, 2012
1:20 pm

Well, since I’m a lazy-feel like i’m entitled-gubmint loving-can’t support myself-EPPI Card carrying-Whole Foods shopping Brown person……………………..I’d better get back to work before my employer sees that Obama sticker on my car and target me for dismissal.

Later gators!!!

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
1:21 pm

R. Kcin — “Anybody remember Tom Lehrer?”

Just sing out a Te Deum
When you see that I C B M

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
1:21 pm

DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!

November 8th, 2012
1:22 pm

Yeah, I always enjoy watching someone(s) who don’t even realize they’re supposed to be embarrassed!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Paul

November 8th, 2012
1:22 pm

stands

In my best Bosch voice: “the stoopid, it burns!!!!”

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
1:22 pm

SSI — ” jaysus-rode-the-dinosaur-for-profit-skools.”

You can go to school to learn how to ride dinosaurs for profit? Hot diggity!

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
1:23 pm

getalife

Saints offense looked good the other night. Hope I am wrong, but I see them beating the Falcons this week. They will have the Super Dome rocking

Tom Middleton

November 8th, 2012
1:24 pm

Regnad Kcin

Genuflect
Genuflect
Genuflect :)

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
1:25 pm

“unless you go to one of those jaysus-rode-the-dinosaur-for-profit-skools.”

Damn………… Going to be difficult to top that post as the funniest of the day.

hahahahaha

:-)

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
1:26 pm

“Genuflect
Genuflect
Genuflect”

The best, of course.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
1:27 pm

They BOTH: It is ludicrous and yet sad that people are buying into that crap.

He wouldn’t even take office until Jan. What legislation was going to be pushed through to save these jobs for people whose business owners do not have demand and or cash flow to pay them today?

All the result of living inside that closed loop information bubble. When you rely on others to think for you, you eventually lose the ability to think for yourself.

booger

November 8th, 2012
1:27 pm

Hey folks! Be happy. Hell, you won. Somehow you seem more pissed off than ever.

And also, as soon as you get through spiking the ball, Maybe you could explain Obama’s blue print fo getting the economy going, and putting the brealks on an unsubstainable national debt.

disgusted

November 8th, 2012
1:29 pm

Klansmen – Crackers in sheets

Tea Party- Crackers in St. John Knits

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
1:29 pm

Booger — “Somehow you seem more pissed off than ever.”

The universe wasn’t created in seven days.

Tax cuts don’t create jobs.

Liberals aren’t pissed off.

Done with this troll now. Jay, can you throw me a new one, please?

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
1:30 pm

“The government is the only thing we all belong to”

I must be a terrible liberal, because I’ve never heard that one before.

However, it’s arguably true of all US Citizens, or at least more true of the government, than of any other entity one might name.

Goldie

November 8th, 2012
1:32 pm

Thank God — She has kept the Wackadoodles away from the White House for another 4 years!!!

It’s a beautiful day, life is good! :)

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
1:32 pm

PAUL

Thanks…I’m moderate conservative on centralized and decentralized government and some fiscal policy but liberal on human issues….

My big beef is that sadly, nothing is going to change in terms of our fiscal direction regardless…systemic IMO..

I’m disappointed in BO’s record but would likely be more so if Romney was in WH…in retrospect…as mentioned, I couldn’t vote for either..

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
1:34 pm

Stevie

You tend to heap more on Obama than any other, or at least that’s how it seems to me. That said, you don’t have to do or say anything here other than what you know, think, or see.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
1:35 pm

“And also, as soon as you get through spiking the ball, Maybe you could explain Obama’s blue print fo getting the economy going, and putting the brealks on an unsubstainable national debt.”

Sure, booger! Continued slow-but-solid economic recovery, and, when the economy is strong enough to handle it without re-tanking, deficit reduction and revenue enhancement.

Glad to help.

JOE COOL........

November 8th, 2012
1:36 pm

Casino mogul Sheldon Adelson gambled more than $54 million on Tuesday’s elections. And he lost.

Yet whine about 4-5% tax increase…. go figure.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
1:37 pm

Both,

We might beat Atlanta once this year.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
1:38 pm

My big beef is that sadly, nothing is going to change in terms of our fiscal direction regardless…systemic IMO..

Your beef is with C-O-N-G-R-E-S-S then. Historical re-election rates between 80% to 90% should be your focus on ranting. When Congress never changes, our trajectory won’t change. It doesn’t matter who’s in the White House. All that person does is sign the legislation. Obama could come out and preach the Ryan Budget (which won’t address our fiscal issues either), but if Congress doesn’t act, we’re still f**ked.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
1:38 pm

Question for cons: Why do YOU think the republicans lost?

So far, I’ve only heard variations on two themes.
1) Peolple are stupid
2) Romney sux

Got any other reasons?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 8th, 2012
1:40 pm

I guess Paul Ryan can go back to being just a normal guy….a normal guy who is faster than a frickin’ cheetah, beeeyatches!

MadMax

November 8th, 2012
1:40 pm

Stands – that was stated by someone on the left (BO or Biden I believe a couple of months ago). Those of us on ther right took offense to it then and still do because we don’t believe we are the property of or owned by the government. We believe we are subject to it’s laws but unless you work directly, we are not part of the government.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
1:40 pm

Debbie, I agree a few came back on under their own monikers (or at least a common sock puppet). I don’t give them much credit for that thought since I don’t think one of them reflected on the losses and what it demonstrates for the GOP. A few like Doomsy did have some meltdown personal insults and more blatant dishonesty. One just signed off completely under that moniker.

I would love to see a few more come on and urge their fellow GOPpers to leave the bubble and come into the real world.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
1:41 pm

Hey, where did “Nero” go? As soon as his “secret identity” was discovered, he vanished!

booger

November 8th, 2012
1:41 pm

regnad,

Really! That’s the plan? Very sad.

JOE COOL........

November 8th, 2012
1:41 pm

indigo

November 8th, 2012
1:42 pm

Jay – 12:11

That’s the same kind of pressure I got from working for Republican managers in different corporations.

Turn out highly detailed and extremely accurate work, do it at a frenetic pace, all day, everyday. And of course, watch them go out of the office to play golf several times a week. And, about every two weeks, be called into the manager’s office and told “you’ve just got to start working faster”.

This is the kind of Corporate mentality that currently owns the Republicans. Believe me, one way or another, and despite changing demographics, they will find a way to keep cheating, gouging and lying to the American people.

pete

November 8th, 2012
1:42 pm

I just peered over that fiscal cliff, and it is not pretty down there. Looks like California will be the first to slide down the hill, who will be next? Man, I hope you dems have a plan. Tick…tock…

You do know you can’t blame conservatives…right? We tried to help, but bi-partisanship is not in the democratic party dictionary.

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2012
1:43 pm

Our local Newspaper:

Headline in big bold print: ROMNEY WINS COUNTY!

Subtitle in smaller plain type: Obama wins nation.

:lol: Republicans are such sore losers. :lol:

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
1:43 pm

“regnad,

Really! That’s the plan? Very sad”

Perhaps. The republican alternative seemed to be “spend more, cut taxes, and hope for the best.” Didn’t really sell, though…

jconservative

November 8th, 2012
1:44 pm

Goodman is correct on this one.

Obama received 55% of the women’s vote. More telling, he received 68% of the unmarried women’s vote.

Do you get that group, women, to vote for you next election by insulting them after this election? Is that the way to win friends and influence people?

Of course, O’Reilly’s job is not to win elections. His job is to win viewers and listeners. And he is really good at it. On the other hand David Plouffe, David Axelrod and Jim Messina’s job is to win elections. And so far they are really good at it. In fact, they may be the best ever.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
1:44 pm

Keep @ 1:40

See my 12:58 with an emphasis on the last part of that post.

Ronald Reagan Parkway

November 8th, 2012
1:44 pm

。☆ 。☆。☆
★。\|/。★
Obama 4 MORE
–Deal with it TroIIs–
★。/|\。★
。☆。 。☆。

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
1:44 pm

Public Service Announcement –
DO NOT drink every time you hear Fox/AM radio say ‘Makers/Takers’
(for the children)

Man, I can hear THAT dog-whistle all the way down heah
at the Lighthouse.

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
1:44 pm

Regarding Big NJ Chris…I can see him as president and riding his cart back and forth to the hill…wouldn’t it be great to see him yelling at Congress to stop being stupid…?

Refreshing at any rate..

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
1:46 pm

“regnad,

Really! That’s the plan? Very sad”
=========

What is it you don’t like about that plan, booger?

hsn

November 8th, 2012
1:48 pm

Jay,

Let them continue living in their own bubble, DENY reality, and when it hits, it is guaranteed these GOP fools will create a new “reality” and try to impose it own us. The sweep of the swing states by O ought to send the message that most Americans are catching on to the right’s foolish fear-mongering. The more they refuse to listen the better the news for the Dems as their base will continue to grow and become larger.

Earlier in the campaign, when the polls showed O up by 5 the cons DENIED reality.
When Romney won the first debate, even the most liberal Dem gave it to him, but when O won the remaining two debates, the cons DENIED reality and either blamed the media or the moderator.
When the jobs report showed unemployment down to 7.8, they DENIED reality.
When polls showed O leading in all swing states, they DENIED reality, and concocted their own poll “reality” to make them feel better.
When polls showed O surging with women and minorities, they DENIED reality, still insisting that Romney will win by a “landslide”. After spending $300M Karl Rove failed to win A SINGLE SENATE seat.
Heck even on election night, when O won Ohio, Rove was DENYING reality live on TV.

Let them continue living in DENIAL.. They will get the rude-awakening when Texas becomes a swing state, and eventually start slowly turning Blue, just like VA. It will be too late for them by then.

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
1:49 pm

BRO

My beef is with the WH, congress, lobbyist, the cash providers, defense contractors, unions and all other influence…I’m definitely beefed at the office president and the executive branch for not spending more time on the hill (Clinton was a master and invested geometrically more time working the phones and walking those halls), politicizing issues, taking credit and laying blame..

My beef is with anyone of influence, including the WH in shaping policy that simply mimics the status quo…

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
1:49 pm

This attitude unfortunately permeates among many in the majority. It’s highly offensive as a minority, and is the reason why the Democratic party will continue for generations to be the Party of today’s minority.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 8th, 2012
1:49 pm

TBS, definitely a lot of doubling down. It will be an interesting battle tween the double downers and the moderates for the heart and soul of the party. I hope the moderates win. It would be nice to have a viable 2 party system with real competition on real ideas and not fictions. We need real answers on climate change, infrastructure.

Stevie, amazing. One second you are in dismay about nothing changing in both parties and how you did not vote and the next you are championing Christie. :roll: How absurd.

Kenyan mother names twins Barack Obama and Mitt Romney

November 8th, 2012
1:50 pm

A young Kenyan mother has named her newborn twin sons after the U.S. president-elect and his defeated Republican challenger.

Millicent Owuor, 20, gave birth to Barack Obama and Mitt Romney on Wednesday at the Siaya District Hospital in southwest Kenya, according to the Standard.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/kenyan-mother-names-twins-barack-obama-mitt-romney-132344622.html

Steve-USA

November 8th, 2012
1:51 pm

I watched O’Reilly last night for the purpose of seeing how he would handle Dick Morris. Morris just said he was wrong and I had the fantasy that Billy would say “There is wrong and there is being totally out of touch with reality while being arrogant at the same time, sorry but after this election and 2008 I don’t think you should appear on my show”

Like I said that was my fantasy, the reality was Morris said since he elected Clinton he was elite and beyond criticism and Billy added you can “visit Morris at DickMorris,com”

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
1:51 pm

““LAS VEGAS (CBS Las Vegas) — A Las Vegas business owner with 114 employees fired 22 workers today, apparently as a direct result of President Obama’s re-election.

“David” (he asked to remain anonymous for obvious reasons) told Host Kevin Wall on 100.5 KXNT that “elections have consequences” and that “at the end of the day, I need to survive.””

I sure hope David selected his layoff candidates by first making note of any O’bozo stickers on the cars driven by his employees.”

Well, I just hired 500 employess as a direct result of Obama’s re-election. I would like to remain anonymous for obvious reasons.

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
1:52 pm

Pete is full.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
1:53 pm

Keep

Agreed. That is why I hope Republican outreach in the minority communities actually gains some traction. Will be good for the Republican party to be more diverse and look more like the overall country’s demographics, as well as a wake up call to Democrats. Democrats at times do take minorities for granted.

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
1:53 pm

BRO

Lumping more on BO is accurate as this is a liberal site and I see no value in being part of a gushing mutual admiration society…can you imagine the material Romney would have provided? Both of us would be banging Kyle relentlessly…

We need leaders with stones…they may start intentioned such but the system and a burning desire to become professional permanent politician softens the sack as it were..

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
1:55 pm

The house and senate will be more blue next year. GOP work for americans or be replaced.

pete

November 8th, 2012
1:55 pm

Regnad Kcin ,

I will play your game, but I guarantee you will not like my answer. Ready?

This country has become a majority of moochers, looking for a hand out. Look at your party. Their solution to our problem is to take from the rich, and give to the poor. Your leader said it himself a few weeks ago. What was that comment…”you didn’t earn that”.

We have passed the tipping point where there are more folks taking (51%) then producing (49%). It is sad, and I threw in my towel on Tuesday night. If this is the society that you want, then you got it. My question is this, when there is nothing left to give out, what is next?

Steve-USA

November 8th, 2012
1:56 pm

“Well, I just hired 500 employess as a direct result of Obama’s re-election. I would like to remain anonymous for obvious reasons.”

You hired 500 employees in a day and a half? My BS meter just exploded.

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
1:56 pm

STEVE

I think the best was Brett Baier asking Karl Rove why he was so off base and asking if Fox provided him a slow computer…also, miss piggy took Rove to task as well…clealy they were embarassd as should be the case…problem is not that they were wrong…they were unforgivably wrong and are probably discussing proceeding with both relationships..

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
1:56 pm

… of crap in the highest degree. What a pip.

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
1:57 pm

Has numbers ever earned a paycheck from anywhere but the gov’t. ?

Nero

November 8th, 2012
1:58 pm

I didn’t go anywhere. Lunch was calling. No secret identity here. Long time lurker who has finally decided to speak up and enjoy it all burning down on your leech heads. :)

ad

November 8th, 2012
1:59 pm

Well, he that cannot do math, Lead Financial Reporter Lou Dobbs, and panel were just on Fox discussing how the election was just America voting to get free stuff. I used to think they were just cynically using this narrative to sway the weak minded, but now I think they’ve told it so long that they believe it too.

small disclaimer – I’m sure there were people voting for Obama because they thought they’d get free stuff, just like people voting for Romney because they thought Obama was a Muslim – just not most people.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
2:00 pm

“This country has become a majority of moochers, looking for a hand out. Look at your party. Their solution to our problem is to take from the rich, and give to the poor. Your leader said it himself a few weeks ago. What was that comment…”you didn’t earn that”.”

I understand that you object to the plan – grow the economy, then cuts and revenue enhancements – but your reply above does not appear to speak to that at all. Perhaps you need to read the previous post again?

Thanks for your response, though…

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
2:00 pm

KEEP,

Championing Christie? A bit strong…I think…my fantasy of anyone going into congress and in front of the country suggesting they are being stupid (like those not heeding storm warnings)would be worth the taxes we pay…momentarily at least..

We won’t get that from BO or Romney…

Also I did vote but not for either BO or Mitts…for the record anyway…the weed guy got my vote..

STEVIE RAY

November 8th, 2012
2:02 pm

AD,

Typical business pundit is that Brit..of course the other side wanted freebies as well….more tax reductions…

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
2:02 pm

“You hired 500 employees in a day and a half? My BS meter just exploded.”

Good – then it was working (before the explosion). :)

Just as much proof for my claim as for the other, though (which was my point).

JohnnyReb

November 8th, 2012
2:03 pm

I seldom have time lately to stay on these threads but occassionally drop in to kick the ant hill.

I would have been on sooner after the election but was traveling.

I predicted Romney by a landslide; obviously wrong there. In fact, the election was an F’n disaster for Republicans.

It is however too early to know why. Libs like Jay think they know why, and they could be correct, but for me I will take a while to decide for myself.

It is true, no matter what Jay and his fellow Lefties state, the Democratic Party is where people turn when they want free stuff. You can believe they deserve the free stuff; that’s your choice, but you can’t deny Dems is where to find it.

My biggest question is, what am I going to do with all these crying towels I had lined up for you guys?

Steve-USA

November 8th, 2012
2:05 pm

Regnad-

My apologies, I missed the sarcasm. In defense it’s hard to tell when people are serious here or just plain crazy. :)

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 8th, 2012
2:05 pm

Megyn asking Rove strait up if he was pulling figures out of his arse was a shining moment – one of many!

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
2:05 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
2:06 pm

J. Reb — “My biggest question is, what am I going to do with all these crying towels I had lined up for you guys?”

Give them to your ideological compatriots.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
2:08 pm

I watched fox turn on rove.

That was fun :)

gop civil war is highly entertaining.

Hope it is a long one and they disband.

moonbat betty

November 8th, 2012
2:09 pm

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
2:10 pm

Stevie Ray

Gotcha. I’d say your beef is sorely misplaced, but you’re entitled to your beliefs, and I’m not gonna try to change them.

pete

November 8th, 2012
2:10 pm

Hey JohnnyReb-

Send them to all those folks who lost their jobs yesterday.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
2:11 pm

M. Betty — “Bender said it best:”

Yours is shiny and metal? Hope you’ve got a good dermatologist.

USMC

November 8th, 2012
2:12 pm

“I wonder how long USMC is gonna take to sober up and come back and post. Hell If I knew where he was on this bender I’d go join him. Drink a few, buy him a few, it don’t matter…………”–FRED

psst! psst!

Hey Fred, I’m over here still locked in the WOOD SHED!
Can you please slip the lock and let me outta here?
The moonshine has worn off, and I have a splitting headache! :-)

T. Robert Black

November 8th, 2012
2:13 pm

Mrs. Ann Romney forced us all to subsidize her horse hobby, when she wrote off $72K as a medical deduction. And, Ryan and Romney proposed tax plan called for making virtually all of Romney’s income tax free, while limiting itemized tax deductions for the rest of us to a ridiculous $17K a year and continuing to tax 401K distributions as ordinary income. Talk about true wealth redistribution. No wonder the voters revolted!!! Those who shouted “Let them eat cake!” at the 47% can take the next 4 years to reflect on their ignorance, and why they underestimated the intelligence and education of the general public.

indigo

November 8th, 2012
2:13 pm

pete – “if this is the society you want, then you got it”

Delta is ready when you are.

Write when you get work.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
2:14 pm

“My apologies, I missed the sarcasm. In defense it’s hard to tell when people are serious here or just plain crazy”

Completely understandable (though I’m not expicitly DENYING the “crazy” part…).

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
2:16 pm

can you imagine the material Romney would have provided? Both of us would be banging Kyle relentlessly…

I’d still be here. I post at Kyle’s infrequently, even though I read almost daily.

SteveA

November 8th, 2012
2:17 pm

You guy’s act like this was a landslide for Obama. Considering he won 10 states by less than 100,000 votes each it won’t take much to flip that the other way next time.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
2:17 pm

USMC

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you think your week was bad this week, just wait until the SEC Championship week. ;)

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
2:19 pm

” Considering he won 10 states by less than 100,000 votes each it won’t take much to flip that the other way next time.”

^^^true dat.

However, what are the republicans going to do differently NEXT time to flip all those votes?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
2:20 pm

SteveA — “You guy’s act like this was a landslide for Obama. Considering he won 10 states by less than 100,000 votes each it won’t take much to flip that the other way next time.”

Careful what you wish for, Champ. Emphasis mine.

Americans Actually Voted for a Democratic House

Think Progress: “Although a small number of ballots remain to be counted, as of this writing, votes for a Democratic candidate for the House of Representatives outweigh votes for Republican candidates… 53,952,240 votes were cast for a Democratic candidate for the House and only 53,402,643 were cast for a Republican — meaning that Democratic votes exceed Republican votes by more than half a million.”

moonbat betty

November 8th, 2012
2:20 pm

Go fix me turkey pot pie.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
2:21 pm

USMC

November 8th, 2012
2:23 pm

“If you think your week was bad this week, just wait until the SEC Championship week.”–Brocephus

LOL! :lol: I saw Bama’s weakness in the LSU game last weekend, and I think Bama might have their hands full this weekend with Texas A&M… We shall see.

I am still reeling enough from the election results to maintain the delirious notion of a completely UN-disciplined and NASTY Georgia Bulldog Defense/team UPSET the grand Bama Tide in the ATL for the SEC CG!

LSU has the right idea when playing Bama, they mix it up by playing loosely and throwing the STIFF Bama players off of their game. We shall see! :-)

booger

November 8th, 2012
2:24 pm

regnad,

What you described was not a plan. Be happy with the status quo, and slowly maybe things will get better is the opposite of a plan. I spent my career in business, and I can just imagine coming to the table with a plan like that.

I do concede that times have changed. The age of high hopes and high expectations seems to be over for America. Instead we are progressing toward the European plans of the 1950’s and 60’s. The same plan which they are desperately trying to escape.

This is why I said it was sad.

Carlos

November 8th, 2012
2:24 pm

There is a reason why they are called the GOP. (Grand Old Party)

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
2:24 pm

Limbaugh is pushing the idea that Republican party needs no outreach. Laughable. It will be a glorious day when this POS no longer has a platform.

JOE COOL........

November 8th, 2012
2:24 pm

SteveA

November 8th, 2012
2:17 pm

Still whining I see…. Romney got close to 3 million LESS votes than McCain

moonbat betty

November 8th, 2012
2:26 pm

USMC:

The libs here really missed you yesterday!

Although they talk really bad about some of the right leaning posters here, I think deep down they really do LOVE them.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
2:26 pm

Booger — “What you described was not a plan. Be happy with the status quo, and slowly maybe things will get better is the opposite of a plan. I spent my career in business, and I can just imagine coming to the table with a plan like that.”

Did you ever come to the table with a plan that had deeply flawed math that was easily recognizable as such, as Romney and Ryan did? If so, how was that received?

pete

November 8th, 2012
2:26 pm

indigo,

I am disabled, I can’t work.

moonbat betty

November 8th, 2012
2:27 pm

Gosh, why do the libs here constantly parrot their hero Bill Maher?

Have some originality once in a while, haters.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
2:28 pm

Who will play Alabama for the Championship?

I think they will repeat.

That hurt to type.

USMC

November 8th, 2012
2:29 pm

“The libs here really missed you yesterday!
Although they talk really bad about some of the right leaning posters here, I think deep down they really do LOVE them.”–Moonbat Betty

Bless your heart Betty! I felt the same way.
It’s tough to be locked in the WOODSHED all by myself.
(Mitt, flew outta there on his Lear Jet right after the election) :-)

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
2:30 pm

booger – I understand that the “plan’ is not uber-inspiring, or even much of a plan, as you state. Perhaps this analogy will help:

America is walking a tightrope over the abyss (you’re with me so far, I bet :) ). Before we do anything else, we have to get off the tightrope, right?

Then we tackle the deficits – rainbows & kittens ensue. Simple, really :)

Okay, what’s YOUR plan?

pete

November 8th, 2012
2:30 pm

getalife,

I would like to see Alabama play Oregon.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
2:31 pm

USMC — “(Mitt, flew outta there on his Lear Jet right after the election)”

Also known as Hair Force One.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
2:31 pm

Krystal’sBalls

Actually Limbaugh should always have his platform and his flock free to follow. He is just the sheep herder, but it takes sheep willing to follow. The market has spoken and he has plenty in his flock waiting on their daily direction.

Same can be said for Shultz and other liberal leaning commentators leading their flock around.

moonbat betty

November 8th, 2012
2:31 pm

“Who will play Alabama for the Championship?”

I would love to see Alabama put a huge beat down on Notre Dame.

SteveA

November 8th, 2012
2:33 pm

JOE COOL……..

Not whining at all….Just pointing out how close it really was and that it won’t take much of an effort to swing it the other way.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
2:33 pm

“Mitt, flew outta there on his Lear Jet right after the election”

He was spotted at a road side diner outside of Des Moines yesterday. Overhead saying there was no better time and place to start his 2016 campaign.

“The continual quest continues: Romney 2016″

moonbat betty

November 8th, 2012
2:34 pm

USMC:

If you hurry down to Chik-Fil-A you can still get a free spicy crow sandwich!

They are really tasty!

USMC

November 8th, 2012
2:35 pm

“Also known as Hair Force One.”–Joe

Joe, you need to go ahead and call the Laugh Factory and get a gig, you’re funny, seriously.

I still like the one you threw down on some poor soul when they called you a tool and you replied with something about Home Depot….. :-)

pete

November 8th, 2012
2:35 pm

No,no,no…not Notre Dame. I want to see Oregon. Oregon has the offense to match up with Alabama defense pretty good.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
2:35 pm

“I would like to see Alabama play Oregon.”

I would like to see Oregon play Kansas State in a playoff.

Notre Dame against another defeated team in a playoff

Get the best undefeated team to play Alabama.

JOE COOL........

November 8th, 2012
2:36 pm

SteveA

November 8th, 2012
2:33 pm

Understand this… the GOP is treading DOWNWARD every election, not UPWARD sport.

moonbat betty

November 8th, 2012
2:36 pm

SteveA, you’d be better off to kiss their behinds for a couple more days.

They don’t take to winning very easily.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
2:36 pm

USMC

I had 911 dialed on my cellphone and almost had to hit the call button near the end of that game. We’ll be better prepared for Texas A&M this weekend.

USMC

November 8th, 2012
2:36 pm

“If you hurry down to Chik-Fil-A you can still get a free spicy crow sandwich!”–Betty

I am about to GROW wings from eating so much crow these last couple of days. But if Chik-fil-a is making it, I bets it’s pretty good! :-)

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
2:38 pm

THE ONE HOUSE THEY COULDN’T BUY –

[picture of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave]

best damn ad EVAH

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
2:38 pm

“Mrs. Ann Romney forced us all to subsidize her horse hobby, when she wrote off $72K as a medical deduction”

If I remember correctly…it didn’t work. It was rejected.

SwamiDave

November 8th, 2012
2:38 pm

Having seen the segment with O’Reilly, I disagreed with him in interpretation:

““The white establishment is Based on the distribution of taxes paid, taxpayers (especially at the at higher ends) are now the minority. And the voters, many of them, feel that the economic system is stacked against them and they want stuff. You are going to see a tremendous Hispanic vote for President Obama. Overwhelming black vote for President Obama. And women will probably break President Obama’s way. People in growing numbers across racial & gender lines feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?””

Focusing on the racial or gender aspects of the percentages ignore that the same attitudes exist among many in “White America”. It is easy to point to those demographics when the scale weighs 12-to-1 or 7-to-3, but it fails to resolve the question at the core of those percentages.

Why is it that growing numbers of Americans among those demographics are willing to settle for bureaucrats & politicians doing for them what they can do better for themselves? How is it that they are so divorced from the individual achievement that built the country that they do not see if for themselves or their children?

Specific to the segments that Jay highlighted from more social issues (abortion, gay marriage, etc), the percentages that you highlight only equate to a 2-to-1 advantage among a portion of the electorate. That presents a challenge, but one that a candidate can overcome. The danger (in my opinion) is the growing segment of the electorate who motivation is not issue-driven, but an outgrowth of the entitlement mentality.

The risk (which O’Reilly is correctly highlighting even if he incorrectly labelled it) being that the elections have and are becoming more about confiscating and redistribution to population segments as a means to gain or hold power. In this case, the issues and principles have little bearing to those who become “election mercenaries”. It truly leads to more cases of Americans whose “job” is voting.

-SD

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
2:38 pm

USMC — “when they called you a tool and you replied with something about Home Depot….. ”

That was either Fishy or RB who called me a tool. I said that if I was a tool, then they were an entire Home Depot, all by themselves. :D

USMC

November 8th, 2012
2:39 pm

“Who will play Alabama for the Championship?”

That’s over a year away. We still have to see who the Georgia Bulldogs are going to play THIS year after they KNOCK-off Alabama in the SEC CG! :lol:
(Okay I admit, I still a little punch-drunk from the Shellacking we took Tuesday night!)

pete

November 8th, 2012
2:41 pm

getalife,

I think the playoff starts next year. This would have been a good year for it. I like both Alabama and Oregon, not real sure about Kansas State, and we will see how good Notre Dame is when the play Southern Cal at the end of the year.

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
2:41 pm

“He is just the sheep herder, but it takes sheep willing to follow”

Here’s an interesting fact for you to ponder: herders FOLLOW their flocks, they don’t lead them

Union

November 8th, 2012
2:42 pm

odd.. the whole campaign from obama was all about someone having more than someone else and how it was not fair.. so he was gonna make it right..

USMC

November 8th, 2012
2:42 pm

“I had 911 dialed on my cellphone and almost had to hit the call button near the end of that game. We’ll be better prepared for Texas A&M this weekend.”–Bro

I know. I was sitting in disbelief watching LSU winning the game. I hope the Tide wakes the F’ up and spanks A&M. Fred’s Talkmaster Idol went to A&M. :lol:

USMC

November 8th, 2012
2:43 pm

“That was either Fishy or RB who called me a tool. I said that if I was a tool, then they were an entire Home Depot, all by themselves.’–joe

Yeah Joe, that’s the one! I think it’s your delivery! :-)
(as though we can hear you deliver the joke!)

AmericaShrugged

November 8th, 2012
2:45 pm

“Among the non-elderly, some 43 percent are white, 22 percent are black and 28 percent are Latino. And who’s on food stamps? According to the Census Bureau, 59 percent are white.”
Shame on you Jay. At a minimum this is intellectually dishonest. A more accurate statement would be non-whites participate in Medicaid and food stamp programs at significantly higher percentages than whites. Then you couild go on to explain how LBJ and his Democratic congress in 1965 destroyed the nuclear black family with the creation of Medicaid and Medicare and the expansion of AFDC while cleverly winning their loyalty at the polls.

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
2:45 pm

Seriously…countdown to Limbaugh kicking the bucket. All of this cannot be healthy for such an obese guy with his temperament.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
2:47 pm

S. Dave — “Why is it that growing numbers of Americans among those demographics are willing to settle for bureaucrats & politicians doing for them what they can do better for themselves? How is it that they are so divorced from the individual achievement that built the country that they do not see if for themselves or their children?”

I think you’re deluding yourself if you think that people like Sheldon Adelson didn’t contribute huge amounts towards Romney’s election without an expectation of ‘getting something.’

Thogwummpy

November 8th, 2012
2:49 pm

Gee, the drop out rates and unwed pregnancy stats are astronomical amongst minorities. How T.F. does this translate in Bookman’s mind as a community that is career oriented? Sorry, behavior counts; and until we as a nation have an HONEST discussion about attitudes that saturate these minority cultures (where work ethic is mocked and denounced)…those sectors will continue to put tragically huge swaths upon dependency program roles. It’s just an inescapable fact with the demographic skews. And generationally, as America veers into the culvert of socialism, it’s growing worse instead of better.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
2:49 pm

Doggone

My analogy was incorrect (thanks for the info), but my point is that Rush and others are willingly followed. Selling their followers what they want to hear.

I think he knows he is selling crap the vast majority of time, people follow and the advertisers pay. I’ve mentioned several times that I listen to some right wing talk radio. Some of it is actually funny, especially knowing that much of their core audience thinks they are getting the “news” as opposed to “opinion” package as the “news”.

I do not agree with 90% plus of what they are saying, but they should have that platform unlike the KBs indicated.

They are great salesmen. Same talking points just packaged in a new wrapping each day and it keeps flying off the shelf.

Thanks again for the sheep herder info. Will have to come up with a better analogy.

:-)

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
2:52 pm

““The white establishment is Based on the distribution of taxes paid, taxpayers (especially at the at higher ends) are now the minority. And the voters, many of them, feel that the economic system is stacked against them and they want stuff.

**NSFW graphic

That is probably the funniest steaming pile of bullsh*t that has been posted here today. When you look at the distribution of taxes paid, the average taxes paid from income averages between 20% – and 30% of income across all income brackets.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/files/2012/09/total-tax-bill-income.jpg

Only those who believe the baloney about fed income taxes would believe that crap that was posted there. Anybody who has the common sense to educate themselves on tax amounts paid will see through that BS.

catlady

November 8th, 2012
2:52 pm

And, to quote Monty Python,”If you tell other people that…they won’t believe you!” as the Scottish industrialists sat around and one-upped each other about how poor and pitiful they were growing up.

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
2:54 pm

@They Both

I can agree with you on principle, as I am no fan of a hard left loud mouth personality like Ed Schultz either. Here is the DISTINCT difference between the two though…

Ed Schultz reserve their vitriol primarily for the ESTABLISHMENT, that is the politicians, party leaders, power entities,and similar types to promote their cause.

Rush Limbaugh (also Neal Boortz by the way) primarily direct their vitriol at GROUPS OF PEOPLE, of course on the receiving end most often are Blacks, Mexicans, women, etc. That is what I find particularly repulsive.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
2:57 pm

Thogwummpy — “Sorry, behavior counts; and until we as a nation have an HONEST discussion about attitudes that saturate these minority cultures (where work ethic is mocked and denounced)…those sectors will continue to put tragically huge swaths upon dependency program roles.”

Unless and until you recognize that such behavior is less about race and more about a variety of social issues, all the lectures you’re salivating about giving out will be for naught.

Oh, and stop being so tight-butted about sex education and condom distribution in schools. If you want to fight teen pregnancy, then stop disarming teens.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
2:57 pm

USMC

I didn’t lose faith, but I had almost given in to the idea that we would be a one loss team this year. It’s an almost improbable task to repeat back-to-back on it’s own. To do that by running the table in the SEC is probably almost statistically impossible.

————————–

At a minimum this is intellectually dishonest. A more accurate statement would be non-whites participate in Medicaid and food stamp programs at significantly higher percentages than whites.

And that is completely intellectually and fiscally dishonest there. Percentages don’t mean jack sh*t when it comes to the dollar amount of the budgets. Fed dollars for those programs are not budgeted out based on percentages of demographic groups. When you attempt to focus on percentages versus total numbers, you’ve already acknowledged defeat because the more fed money is spent on the larger numbered group, not the larger percentaged group.

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
2:57 pm

Get someone to feel abused and you can talk them into anything, the FAUX News mo. Limbaugh is a pip.

Union

November 8th, 2012
3:00 pm

soo.. just curious.. it there going to be another 4 years of this cr@p or is obama going to kick out a plan so we can actually move forward and dont end up like greece?

know a plan is not important to most.. as noted by the way the election turned out..

SteveA

November 8th, 2012
3:00 pm

moonbat betty: Obviously Joe Cool…. has a bit of a problem with the little numbers I pointed out. Not much of a SPORT is he. Or is he always that condescending?

Obama won, now what?

November 8th, 2012
3:01 pm

You guys worry about the middle class! Making good financial decisions in life gives you the opportunity to make what you want plus running your own biz makes a difference. You won’t get ahead working in a cubical for some one. Take chances, get ahead!

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
3:01 pm

KB

Thanks for the reply.

JOE COOL........

November 8th, 2012
3:02 pm

AmericaShrugged

November 8th, 2012
2:45 pm

Break your post down in numbers as far as monies, not percentages and get back to us.

Tundra Dude

November 8th, 2012
3:03 pm

Megyn asking Rove strait up if he was pulling figures out of his arse was a shining moment – one of many!

Darn, I missed that….too late now, I’d guess ??

willie lynch

November 8th, 2012
3:04 pm

White males don’t want to except the reality of white male privilege. This privilege is a consequence of numbers and not talent. White males believe since they were the founders of America that they have a special place in the pecking order of who, what, and where things are to be distributed throughout this country and even the world. Unfortunately things are changing and the shock of this reality has the white male running scared. It’s sad but this white male privilege will come to an end with this group trying to establish some apartheid type set up to keep power from the growing minority/majority thereby deepening the already strong divide between white males and the males of other minority groups. This end of white rule doesn’t mean the end of America it only means the end of white rule. If they were smart they would take a look at themselves and study their own psyche to find what it is that drives them seek dominance at the expense of others. Who knows maybe they’ve already done that and have come to the conclusion that it doesn’t matter why only that it is.

The idea that the problems of America can be laid at the lap of minorities is further indication of the psychological analysis needed by a group that makes all the rules and then say’s the problems are the fault of those whom they rule.

The problems facing Black people in America are by design but it is no longer something that can be blamed on white America. It is what is. America can benefit a great deal from a full contribution of all races and that means equal opportunity for all which means an end to white male privilege. I just don’t think they can accept that.

JOE COOL........

November 8th, 2012
3:04 pm

SteveA

November 8th, 2012
3:00 pm

Again, the GOP base is treading DOWNWARD. Do you comprehend that?

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
3:05 pm

” You won’t get ahead working in a cubical for some one”
=================
You need to BLESS those people! Where would YOU be without the cubicle farm inhabitants?

Different people have different temperments, situations, lives. It doesn’t mean you are “better” than them, right?

Union

November 8th, 2012
3:06 pm

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/just-explain-it/why-social-security-running-money-just-explain-133731426.html

our president… ” Obama said. “Social Security is structurally sound. It’s going to have to be tweaked the way it was by Ronald Reagan and Speaker — Democratic Speaker Tip O’Neill. But it is — the basic structure is sound.”

tweaked.. got it..

JOE COOL........

November 8th, 2012
3:06 pm

Jeb Bush: GOP Can’t Be the ‘Old, White-Guy Party’

TOO LATE

Tundra Dude

November 8th, 2012
3:07 pm

“My biggest question is, what am I going to do with all these crying towels I had lined up for you guys?”

Save them for the Falcons playoff game,
after my Packers come down there and beat them again. ;-)

Jack

November 8th, 2012
3:08 pm

Just a reminder to a previous blogger, the KKK membership consisted of Democrats. And the segregationists were all Democrats.

Obama won, now what?

November 8th, 2012
3:08 pm

Willie Lynch?

You can’t be serious with that post! Those comments are disgraceful and racist! What does color ever need to be a point of reference. Please move past this reckless verbiage for the good of all!

emz

November 8th, 2012
3:10 pm

Good article. I overheard a white woman (college-educated and works in a rural, northeast Georgia school system) say that Obama won because people were given cell phones. (I’m also white and college-educated.) Don’t know what world these people are living in these days.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
3:10 pm

Obama won, now what?

November 8th, 2012
3:10 pm

Regnad Kcin
November 8th, 2012
3:05 pm

Not better by a long shot, just wanted more for my family without dependence on anyone.

JOE COOL........

November 8th, 2012
3:11 pm

Jack

November 8th, 2012
3:08 pm

Whats your point?

Mick

November 8th, 2012
3:11 pm

I listened to rush yeasterday and today a bit, he is off his rocker as usual but he knows how to chum the waters, so on and on he will go. He is mostly irrelevent and borderline comic but he definitely knows how to milk his ilk…

newkid

November 8th, 2012
3:13 pm

In the almost 40 hours since CNN forecasted an Obama victory the US air waves have been filled with all sorts of analyses of what Republicans did wrong and what the Republicans need to do in future to ensure the party does not become a relic in the face of 21st century national demographics. WHY? WHY? WHY?

Why should so much time so soon be spent by so many seeking to give advice to party faithful on how to preserve a political party so imbued with 19th century perspectives?

The nation of tomorrow will not be the nation of yesterday. We know not what it will become, but we do know that it is rapidly changing, will continue to change, and perhaps change significantly. Why not concern ourselves FAR, FAR more with how we change and what we become, and concern ourselves FAR, FAR less with prescriptions intended to bring those in the nation who are given to 19th century modes of thought into a 21st century reality? As the nation continues to evolve into its 21st century reality, the 19th century thinkers will either adapt or be lost. Let’s hope they adapt, but let’s not needlessly spend precious time and energy on the subject. The nation does not have that luxury of expending enormous time and energy attempting to pull 19th century operatives into the 21st century. Our children and grandchildren can’t affort us spending our time so foolishly. Enough already. Let’s move on.

The nation faces enormous challenges given how stagnant (relatively) it has been over the past almost 15 years, and given how rapidly some other nations on the planet have pushed forward in that same span of time. We must respect where we’ve been, but we cannot afford to coninuously ‘yearn for yesterday’ as the Beatles did in song. Yesterday is gone; it’s time to build tomorrow. If the Republican Party and others of 19th century persuasion are willing to pick up a shovel, welcome; if not, see ya.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
3:14 pm

“Not better by a long shot, just wanted more for my family without dependence on anyone”

I don’t disagree…as the man said, it takes all kinds, and it sounds you’ve chosen the right one for you and yours – props for that.

USMC

November 8th, 2012
3:18 pm

“I listened to rush yeasterday and today a bit, he is off his rocker as usual but he knows how to chum the waters, so on and on he will go. He is mostly irrelevent and borderline comic but he definitely knows how to milk his ilk…”–MICK

I KNEW IT!

Mick, listens to RUSH LIMBAUGH…. There’s your sign… :lol:

Tundra Dude

November 8th, 2012
3:18 pm

Here’s an interesting fact for you to ponder: herders FOLLOW their flocks, they don’t lead them

Then what do the sheepdogs do…?

willie lynch

November 8th, 2012
3:18 pm

Obama won, now what?

November 8th, 2012
3:08 pm

Reckless verbiage? Reckless behaviors are what need to be addressed.

USMC

November 8th, 2012
3:22 pm

“Obama won, now what?”

Now we are all in for a ride on the USS Obama over the Fiscal cliff! :-)

getalife

November 8th, 2012
3:25 pm

Milk his ilk indeed.

Make him pee in a cup daily.

Realist

November 8th, 2012
3:25 pm

Hey Mr. Black, please tell me how “we” subsidized the horse write-off? All that meant was that the Romneys gave less of their own money for redistributive purposes that particular year. So, assuming a 15% tax rate on a $76K write-off, the Romneys paid $11K less in taxes that year than they otherwise would have. In other words, instead of paying $1,951,000.00 in taxes in 2011, they “only” paid $1,940,000.00.

Indeed, that write-off didn’t cost “us” one cent BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER “OUR” MONEY TO BEGIN WITH. Libs like you think that all things–including money–are originally created and owned by the government. The truth is that the government doesn’t have one dime until it takes it away from someoen who earned it.

We have a system where some citizens contribue millions each year in taxes while others contribute $0, yet the Democrats still assert that the former aren’t paying their “fair share.” In what universe does such an asinine notion even pass the smell test? One in which the takers out-vote the producers, i.e., the current USA.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
3:27 pm

Realist — “Libs like you think that all things–including money–are originally created and owned by the government.”

Okay, hotshot. Let’s see you print your own money and use some of it down at the Wal-Mart. And I want to be there, laughing and pointing, when the cops haul you away.

harvey

November 8th, 2012
3:28 pm

Fine, all the boats will sink together. We can all be grifters and then wonder where the golden goose went.

AmericaShrugged

November 8th, 2012
3:28 pm

Loks like us taxpayers are about to take a $26B hit for buying Michigan and Ohio for Obama’s re-election. I prefer to make campaign contributions vountarily rather than have them ripped from my pocket!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2012/11/08/obama-general-motors-shares-bailout/1692217/

Peadawg

November 8th, 2012
3:28 pm

“Now we are all in for a ride on the USS Obama over the Fiscal cliff!”

Hopefully Republicans and Democrats can work together in the House and Senate. With no bill to sign, what can Obama do?

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
3:28 pm

“Now we are all in for a ride on the USS Obama over the Fiscal cliff”

Yep, thanks to those clowns in Congress who were unable to get on the compromise roller coaster

Oscar

November 8th, 2012
3:29 pm

Now we are all in for a ride on the USS Obama over the Fiscal cliff”

_______

Only if that’s where the majority of congress – read house – wants to go.

middle of the road

November 8th, 2012
3:30 pm

“P. J. O’Rourke pointed out once that Cubans will ride a leaky raft — made out of a door and milk jugs — 90 miles through shark-infested waters just to have a chance at getting a job making meals or turning down the bedclothes of wealthy Yanquis”

Of course, as soon as a Cuban steps foot on American soil, he/she is automatically legal. Mexicans are not. The difference lies (I guess) whether your poor economic conditions are due to Communism, or just to other reasons.

Oscar

November 8th, 2012
3:31 pm

Alabama won’t play anyone for the national championship. They will lose to the Bulldogs in the SEC play off game.

JOE COOL........

November 8th, 2012
3:31 pm

AmericaShrugged

November 8th, 2012
3:28 pm

Still waiting on you to break down your percentages in money.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
3:32 pm

They will cut a deal.

Reid said SS is off the table.

Oscar

November 8th, 2012
3:32 pm

Now the GOP has become the party against “fee stuff.” Well, all groups have to stand for something. They can lead the charge back to 1890. Back to the Gilded Age. Somehow, don’t think many will follow.

stands for decibels

November 8th, 2012
3:33 pm

Just thought this was a cool story, and indicative of how our country is changing:

http://jezebel.com/5958635/americas-first-ever-hindu-congresswoman-will-take-the-oath-of-office-over-the-bhagavad-gita

Last night, Hawaii not only elected Japan-born Mazie Hirono to be the first ever Asian-American woman elected to the Senate, they also elected Democrat Tulsi Gabbard as the first ever practicing Hindu to the US House of Representatives. Hawaii has been declared a Fox News Disaster Zone.

Thirty-one-year-old Gabbard is the daughter of two conservative Hawaii politicians and first ran for office at age 21. After her first term, she voluntarily served on a 12-month tour of duty with Hawaii’s National Guard, and then became the first woman in the history of the Accelerated Officer Candidate School at the Alabama Military Academy to be designated a “distinguished honor graduate.”

When she’s sworn in this January, she’ll take her oath of office over a Bhagavad Gita, a sacred text for followers of Hinduism, or Sanatana Dharma.

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
3:34 pm

@Willie Lynch

What you stated is absolutely true, served up quite RAW but true. There really has been a serious denial of the things you stated, because it is too uncomfortable of a reality for the U.S. to deal with. It has become a bit of psychosis if you will. This is why you are immediately labeled a racist by someone who prefers to not recognize the reality and factual correctness of what you stated, even though it plays itself out in front of us daily. This forms the foundation for:

Being anti “Affirmative Action” / anti “Diversity”
Being against equal pay and opportunity for women
Women’s health issues
Undermining public education
etc.

The bottom line is, each of these issues being as desired by those who enjoy the privilege provide for a common objective – eliminate competition for the economic rewards (and resulting power) to be realized in this country. Period.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
3:34 pm

middle of the road — “Of course, as soon as a Cuban steps foot on American soil, he/she is automatically legal. Mexicans are not.”

It’s not just Mexicans, it’s all non-Cuban Hispanics. Only Cubans are covered by the ‘wet-feet, dry-feet’ policy; a fact which is not lost on other Hispanic-Americans. Most other Hispanic-American subgroups resent Cuban-Americans for that (as well as several other) reason.

This was discussed a lot on Jay’s blog earlier this year; conservatives thought Marco Rubio as the VP choice would help draw Hispanic votes in for Romney, while several liberal posters (myself included) pointed out why that was a mistaken presumption.

USMC

November 8th, 2012
3:35 pm

“Alabama won’t play anyone for the national championship. They will lose to the Bulldogs in the SEC play off game.”–Oscar

OMG! Oscar gets it! That NASTY, Undisciplined DAwg Defense will SHOCK the Tide.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
3:35 pm

“Indeed, that write-off didn’t cost “us” one cent BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER “OUR” MONEY TO BEGIN WITH.”

You know, Realist, that those without enough income don’t have to pay taxes because of deductions, right? Why is the “horse” deduction okay, but not the others?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 8th, 2012
3:35 pm

Some of these are hilarious

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-2012-election-victory.htm

picture of a woman voting: “If a candidate threatens women’s choices, the female body has ways to shut that whole thing down. ”

picture of Romney with a caption: “Game Over. Please insert $250 million to play again.”

Realist

November 8th, 2012
3:37 pm

Joe, that was an ingenius and enlightening post. Because of you, I truly understand and appreciate the fact that all government has to do is print money–sort of like magic, huh? With that being the case, can they stop taking mine away from me?

Your inability to comprehend basic economic realities puts you in the same class as the 300-pound welfare recipient thrilled with her recently acquired “Obamaphone” (see youtube for specifics).

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
3:39 pm

Alabama won’t play anyone for the national championship. They will lose to the Bulldogs in the SEC play off game.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Are you blogging from Washington state or Colorado?

AmericaShrugged

November 8th, 2012
3:40 pm

Joe Cool – Stocks selling at $25 a share, we (treasury) bought it at $53 so we’re getting 47% (25/53) of our $49.5B investment back. That’s about $23.3B of the $49.5 leaving us a loss (increase to deficit) of about $26B.
This compares very unfavorably with TARP where we got almost all the money back already. STIMULUS = stimulating voters in Mich and Ohio to vote for Obama with $26B in taxpayer’s money!

getalife

November 8th, 2012
3:41 pm

I wonder if the new AG will do on weed.

The people voted for it and governments should use it for jobs and revenue before cutting.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
3:43 pm

I truly understand and appreciate the fact that all government has to do is print money–sort of like magic, huh?

Obviously you don’t understand what he was saying at all. It’s not that government prints money. The fact that the government backs the money you spend with it’s full faith and credit is what gives that money value. You’re personal faith and credit may appear valuable to you, but any currency you print on your own would be worthless to anyone who doesn’t believe or have faith in YOUR credit.

That’s what JHM was trying to point out to you.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
3:44 pm

Realist — “Joe, that was an ingenius and enlightening post. Because of you, I truly understand and appreciate the fact that all government has to do is print money–sort of like magic, huh? With that being the case, can they stop taking mine away from me?”

If you’re going to post foolish rants here, then don’t be surprised when you get rude comments in return.

“Your inability to comprehend basic economic realities”

Son, given your clueless post of a few minutes ago, you have NO room whatsoever to be calling out others on some supposed “inability to comprehend basic economic realities.”

Slow your roll, back up, repost something that makes some SENSE instead of just being an intemperate rant, and you might actually get an adult conversation.

Or just post more rants and draw some more darts and arrows. Makes no nevermind to me.

Jay. can we get a better class of troll in here, please? :roll:

josef

November 8th, 2012
3:44 pm

Oh, my…just what is a “minority” anyway…? That’s going to be a blessing of our increased diversity. The best any one group can “hope” for will be to be a plurality.

And what about those divisions within the “minority?” JHM makes the point about the Hispanics. Last night Tulsa and I had to have a little “lesson” in the deep divisions within the Indian “minority.” Among Jews, the differences in the different “types” takes a scorecard to keep track of. The same can be said for Asians, Southerners, or any other group we’ve pigeonholed with our comfortable broad brush stereotypes…not always negative, btw…

As an empire, that has always been both our greatest strength and our greatest weakness…

We have reelected as our leader a true African-American with legitimate credentials for SONS OF THE CONFEDERATE VETERANS…is this a great country or what?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
3:45 pm

Brosephus — “That’s what JHM was trying to point out to you.”

Ah, it’s beside the point, Brosephus. Realist is regrettably in possession of an “inability to comprehend basic economic realities” or some such.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
3:47 pm

JHM

I’m with you in that I want to see him print that money and go try to spend it. If you bring the snacks, I’ll bring the beer.

:)

theintelligentdesigner

November 8th, 2012
3:47 pm

It was so much fun watching the Fox News on the big night, that I tuned in today to see if Megan and Brett were still close. All that was on was the Guatemala earthquake and the Nor’easter in NYC. It was, like, a news day. It was hilarious. Sincerity and caring for victims of natural disasters, while just a week ago, all Benghazi all the time. If the Republic was in danger those days, how can the problem have been solved? Obama must be a genius to have cleared up all those civilization threatening questions. John Birch is rolling over onto Stonewall Jackson. After all, they love each other, and who is to say that love should be forbidden?

deegee

November 8th, 2012
3:49 pm

I just don’t understand how the republican party maintains any sense of credibility after what we have seen over the last few months. They nominated a guy that stands for nothing. He attacked Obama on his record but he couldn’t stand on his own record at Bain or as governor of Massachusetts. He insisted on running his own campaign and ran it into the ground. They picked a running mate that they couldn’t even put on the same stage with Mitt in October. They doubled down on Todd Akins. The math in their budget plan didn’t add up. They shifted so far to the middle in the last debate that there was no discernible difference between the candidates. They made the worst, most embarrassing predictions when the polling data was staring them right in the face. They spent hundreds of millions of dollars and got next to nothing for it. And we’re supposed to believe that these guys have the smarts to guide us through what is shaping up to be the next social and economic evolution in the US? Please, if the Romney campaign was a football team, no one would be betting on them again.

Rabbit

November 8th, 2012
3:50 pm

“Start now for 2014 and work to turn the house blue.”

How about a shade of purple. It shouldn’t be too easy for either side. The best outcomes derive from a healthy argument.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
3:50 pm

JohnnyReb

November 8th, 2012
2:03 pm

I seldom have time lately to stay on these threads but occassionally drop in to kick the ant hill.

I would have been on sooner after the election but was traveling.

I predicted Romney by a landslide; obviously wrong there. In fact, the election was an F’n disaster for Republicans.

It is however too early to know why. Libs like Jay think they know why, and they could be correct, but for me I will take a while to decide for myself.

It is true, no matter what Jay and his fellow Lefties state, the Democratic Party is where people turn when they want free stuff. You can believe they deserve the free stuff; that’s your choice, but you can’t deny Dems is where to find it.

My biggest question is, what am I going to do with all these crying towels I had lined up for you guys?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Classy Bro. I nominate you for post of the day. I ever get a chance to meet you I WILL buy you a beer (or beverage of your choice).

Nice way to man up. I for one appreciate it.

Drive by done, now back to cooking. I’m doing two recipes from Kevin Gillespie’s new book, Fire in My Belly. It’s one kick ass cook book. Gives methods not just recipes.

[...] The GOP’s self-defeating image of minorities as ‘takers’ (blogs.ajc.com) [...]

JOE COOL........

November 8th, 2012
3:51 pm

AmericaShrugged

November 8th, 2012
2:45 pm

“Among the non-elderly, some 43 percent are white, 22 percent are black and 28 percent are Latino. And who’s on food stamps? According to the Census Bureau, 59 percent are white.”
Shame on you Jay. At a minimum this is intellectually dishonest. A more accurate statement would be non-whites participate in Medicaid and food stamp programs at significantly higher percentages than whites.
——
Nope, referring to a breakdown in monies regarding your above statement.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
3:51 pm

USMC

November 8th, 2012
3:35 pm

“Alabama won’t play anyone for the national championship. They will lose to the Bulldogs in the SEC play off game.”–Oscar

OMG! Oscar gets it! That NASTY, Undisciplined DAwg Defense will SHOCK the Tide.
+++++++++++++++++

Where the hell have you been you mean old man? if you were on a bender you should have called me so I could have drank with you lol. Gotta split now though for a while.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
3:52 pm

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
3:39 pm

Alabama won’t play anyone for the national championship. They will lose to the Bulldogs in the SEC play off game.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Are you blogging from Washington state or Colorado?
+++++++++++++++++++++

You dis my Dawgs again and I’ll be blogging from the state of my foot up your ass………..

dave

November 8th, 2012
3:54 pm

I thought I’d drop by to see how you and your little group of progressive were acting after the election. No surprise here, you guys won so go ahead and “define” the American Dream in your new way – you own it. Hope it works out for you (and us), I really do. I’ll drop back by in a couple of years and see how you’re doing then..

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
3:55 pm

And that’s REALLY what the U.S. is INTENDED to be @Josef Pluralistic….and really what I believe most sane people strive recognize and strive for.

However, we have to be honest with the fact that the reason that there are “minorities” in what would otherwise be a Pluralistic society is the fact that those in the “majority” are reluctant to yield the sharing of power, influence, and resources to those outside of their group because they have become accustomed to enjoying the privilege and control of said resources, whether they are ill-gotten or earned. That is Sociology 101.

BobFromcobb

November 8th, 2012
3:55 pm

God Bless America.
The great Southern Strategy 48 years later. The republican plan was to polarize the south. It worked. But now the Lilly White republican south is outnumber by a more diverse democratic party. The bigger tent strategy trumps the white sheet.

Eliminating abortion clinics only creates a run on clothes hangers. To prevent abortion you need to prevent the unwanted pregnancy. Yes we call that free and readily valuable birth control. Take a pill, save a life.
200 hundred years ago churches said slavery was a blessing from God.
50 years ago churches said segregation was our salvation.
Today I hear how their black welfare is dragging down our nation.
Lies create ignorance only if you choose to believ them.

Conservatives believe the view that all people,not just rich people, have a right to Life, Liberty and Property(prosperity). Republicans dispise those people apparently.
Yes thats the definition of a Liberal.
A Liberal just like George Washington.
How stupid are you if you think a liberal is a bad thing.
God Bless all Americans, even the ones headed to Canada.

Thomas Heyward Jr

November 8th, 2012
3:55 pm

It’s clear.
The GOP needs to send more free government cheese to more black and brown people.
And s’more free birth control pill to the more women.
.
Bookmans a genius.

willie lynch

November 8th, 2012
3:56 pm

josef

November 8th, 2012
3:44 pm

“…is this a great country or what?”

Not yet.

Realist

November 8th, 2012
3:56 pm

Joe and Bro, you two need to go get a room.

Midori

November 8th, 2012
3:56 pm

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
3:56 pm

So because I am a 55 year old honkey averaging 50+ hours a week on the job, barely squeaking by financially, and I resent the gub-ment taking my tax money and giving it to people who don’t work for it, I am a traitor. Ok, I’m glad to be informed about these things.

josef

November 8th, 2012
3:57 pm

FRED

So, did the Bruin buy you a drink at Manuels?

Midori

November 8th, 2012
3:57 pm

Bookmans a genius.

however, it is all too clear that you’re not.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
3:57 pm

Fred

Your Dawgs might represent the East in the Championship game, but they’re gonna come up short when the clock goes to 00:00 at the end of the 4th quarter. If we make it to Atlanta without getting beat, I don’t think Georgia poses nearly the threat that LSU and Texas A&M does.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
3:59 pm

Realist

Why resort to that type of statement? I simply tried to explain Joe’s position. If you don’t like what I said, then why not respond to me man to man instead of using that kindergarten sh*t? You are a grown up, right?

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:00 pm

willie lynch

“Not yet.”

Okay, I’ll bite. When will it be iyo?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:00 pm

Realist — “Joe and Bro, you two need to go get a room.”

As I said, post something that makes some sense, or else don’t be surprised with what you get.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:01 pm

Brosephus — “If you don’t like what I said, then why not respond to me man to man instead of using that kindergarten sh*t? You are a grown up, right?”

Haters gonna hate.

BobFromcobb

November 8th, 2012
4:01 pm

Thanks officer for reminding me texting and driving is illegal.
If he new I was a liberal with auto correct problems he would have locked me up.

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:02 pm

Krystall Balls

Okay, so what constitutes a “minority?”

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
4:03 pm

Joe, isn’t it funny that anyone who disagrees with you is a “hater”? And the libs condemn the cons for being elitist. Too blind to see your own hypocrisy.

Realist

November 8th, 2012
4:03 pm

Come on boys, you’re really getting moist here. Don’t take it so personal :)

Tundra Dude

November 8th, 2012
4:04 pm

Alabama won’t play anyone for the national championship. They will lose to the Bulldogs in the SEC play off game.

Are you blogging from Washington state or Colorado?

LOL!!! Good Wun!

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:04 pm

BobfromCobb

That auto correct one was funny… :-)

N-GA

November 8th, 2012
4:04 pm

The GOP should have won this election in a walk. All they had to do was shift toward the center….just a little. Instead they went to the right. How stupid can you get? They ended up losing most of the moderates! If they had shifted to the center, what voters would have defected and where would they have gone?

Just plain stupid…..

clem

November 8th, 2012
4:04 pm

what about all the takers on wall st and banks and mortgage companies…..

and since congress is pretty inept how about them

willie lynch

November 8th, 2012
4:05 pm

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:00 pm

In the words of Tommy Boy and I’m paraphrasing:”You don’t have to stick your head up a bulls a** to know a good steak when you see it.”

Realist

November 8th, 2012
4:06 pm

Joe, before you and Bro check-in at the Motel 6, please define the term “hater” for me.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:06 pm

Nunna Yobinnes — “Joe, isn’t it funny that anyone who disagrees with you is a “hater”?”

Rejected, Counselor. You’re assuming facts not in evidence.

“And the libs condemn the cons for being elitist.”

Funny how the confrontation started with a condescending, elitist post from Realist. Of course you wouldn’t mention *that.* :roll:

“Too blind to see your own hypocrisy.”

And you’re too clueless to see “Realist’s” Maybe *you* two should go get a room.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
4:06 pm

Realist

I’m not taking anything personal. I’m just being real. I discuss things as a man, and not a child. If I joke about something, I make sure people are fully aware that I’m joking. That’s just me though.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
4:08 pm

Realist’s rhetoric is depressingly familiar…

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:08 pm

wiilie L

I’m not following that…a good quip I’ll add to my repertoire, but I’m not following it in re my question…

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:08 pm

Realist — “Come on boys, you’re really getting moist here. Don’t take it so personal”

Who’s taking it personally? You’re right off your rant and still not saying anything that makes sense. That doesn’t bother me at all; rather, it just reinforces my initial impression of you.

If you had a serious point to make, you’d have made it by now.

Jack®

November 8th, 2012
4:08 pm

You can slice it anyway you want to, Bookman, takers ain’t producers. Takers elected Obama along with a lot of other misguided folks.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:08 pm

“Realist” — “Joe, before you and Bro check-in at the Motel 6, please define the term “hater” for me.”

Rejected, Ben. You have your orders, and you know what they are.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
4:09 pm

Joe, you forgot that I’m a conservative. I wouldn’t have any interest in getting a room with a man.

Not So Casual Observer

November 8th, 2012
4:10 pm

Matters not the color or race of the leeches, Democrats appeal to leeches, have followed Cloward and Piven for 40+ years and have created a welfare-driven, socialist state simply to garner political power.

Bookman does the MSM’s hit job of making this about race when the actuality is this is about producers and slackers. California and New York instituted additional taxes for the wealthy and the result was the wealthy left those states.

Why do large numbers of British entertainers and business people come to the US? The high level of taxation is the obvious answer.

Jay Bookman is no better than O’Reilly for his divisive (racist?) comments.

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
4:10 pm

“Takers elected Obama along with a lot of other misguided folks.”

Jack – what percentage of Obama voters were “takers,” IYO?

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
4:10 pm

@Nunna Yob

Do me a favor and don’t refer to yourself as a “honkey”. It gets you nowhere. You are not the only person working long weeks and paying taxes you know? I’m not “squeaking by”, so I cannot relate to your anger. Personally I don’t mind my tax dollars being used to fund the country, or support my fellow American where needed (and I pay a healthy share of taxes).

Herman Cain did say though …. “BLAME YO’SELF!!!!” You should try it sometime. I get from your statement you are a conservative. Also, do you realize you are in the 47%??? Dohhhhh!!!!

I kill me.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:11 pm

Nunna Yobinnes — “Joe, you forgot that I’m a conservative. I wouldn’t have any interest in getting a room with a man.”

Response #1) I’m sure Larry Craig or Ken Mehlman wouldn’t mind.

Response #2) What makes you so sure “Realist” is a man?

Response #3) What makes you so sure *you’re* a man?

Realist

November 8th, 2012
4:12 pm

So Bro, you didn’t know I was joking about you and your boy getting a room together? Okay.

Back to the original issue–is the money that you earn yours, or is it the government’s? If your answer is the latter, then we will have to agree to disagree. If it’s the former, then you are in agreement with the premise of my previous “condescending, elitist” post.

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:12 pm

Nunna Yobinnes

“Joe, you forgot that I’m a conservative. I wouldn’t have any interest in getting a room with a man.”

What does one have to do with the other…sounds a bit on the non sequitur side to me…

wreckinball

November 8th, 2012
4:13 pm

You state O’Reilly is wring and then cite a bunch of statistics that prove him right. Whites are the majority receivers of all the entitlement programs you cite. They are also the majority 66+% of the population.

That means proportionally minorities do receive more welfare. It’s not racist . It’s the truth. Kinda of like saying the majority of the NBA is black. Not racist just true.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
4:13 pm

josef

Did you know that 95% of the Republican voters in Ohio were White? I found that little gem when reading about exit poll data. I wonder how many of those who despise 95% of one race voting for a person will voice anger about that…

iBS Aplenty

November 8th, 2012
4:14 pm

I’m listening, Bookman. If O’Reilly’s statement is not factual, let’s hoist him by the petards…But, in the interest of statistically accurate information, what percentage of the populations represented – what percentage of the white, black, hispanic, Asian, single, gay, etc. (you choose the breakdown) are receiving federal government TANF, SNAP or Medicaid.

Do the country a favor and let’s prove O’Reilly’s a racist. Or, is he being factually correct in stating that minorities receive more of the entitlement (apple) pie.?

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
4:14 pm

I thought the 47% didn’t pay taxes? I pay taxes.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:16 pm

Realist — “Back to the original issue–is the money that you earn yours, or is it the government’s?”

The *issue* was that you argued that liberals wrongly thought that money was “created by the government.”

Unless you’re conducting your life on an entirely cash-free basis, then some of the money you’re using most certainly *was* created by the government.

indigo

November 8th, 2012
4:16 pm

BobFromCobb – 4:01

Of course you know that, if pulled over by an Officer, don’t say “you’re not going to look in the trunk, are you?”

iBS Aplenty

November 8th, 2012
4:17 pm

…sorry wreckinball, if I’d known you were making the same argument that I was, I woulda just stayed tuned for Bookman’s answer instead of repeating you. Let’s hope Mr. Bookman responds to your trenchant insight….

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:17 pm

BROSEPHUS

Most interesting point there…

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
4:17 pm

Joe and your alter ego Josef – I replied directly to Joe’s remark. Sorry, I don’t know who Larry Craig and Ken Mehlman are. I suppose realist could be a woman – ok. I know I am a man because I am a man. Any more insults you’d like to hurl my way? After all, I’m just a “hater.”

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
4:18 pm

“Joe, you forgot that I’m a conservative. I wouldn’t have any interest in getting a room with a man”

Does “Log Cabin Republicans” ring any bells?

No Artficial Flavors

November 8th, 2012
4:18 pm

He pretty much right, regardless of race, most people feel entitled to “stuff” now more than ever. Even I am guilty of thinking I am now and then before I slap myself back to reality.

willie lynch

November 8th, 2012
4:18 pm

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:08 pm

I can only tell you what I see. When it gets to be great I’m sure I’ll recognize it.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
4:20 pm

is the money that you earn yours, or is it the government’s?

Depending on how you look at the situation, it’s both. The money you earn is yours because you’ve earned it. In the macro, the money is worthless if it’s not backed by the full faith and credit of the government. For example, would you accept pay from your employer if you were paid in Nigerian Naira or Iraqi Dinar at an equal currency rate? A $40,000 salary in US dollars for 40,000 Naira or 40,000 Dinar?

1.00 Nigerian Naira = 0.0064 U.S. Dollar
1.00 Iraqi Dinar = 0.00086 U.S. Dollar

We tend to look at things from the micro view as that’s what affects us the most. It’s easy to take the macro for granted because of the safety and security we have of living in the United States. That’s why you see foreign immigrants come here and bust their asses. They’ve experienced the micro and macro in ways we could never imagine.

BobFromcobb

November 8th, 2012
4:21 pm

Haters are the negative people around you.
By definition it’s those people who don’t want to play unless they pick the teams and make the rules.
Unwilling to participate unless they can control the outcome.

I’m still old white and educated in the south. I am not mistaken about why may neighbors vote and act like they do. But please think of this one thing……

I voted for a Christian man married to his first wife with two beautiful children.
He was raised by in an extended family. He put himself in position to be the President of the US. You voted for the son of an auto executive\Govenor of Michigan whose financial wisdom is schooled from how not to loose your inheritance.
Conservatives are for status quo. Rich stay rich, poor stay poor.
I wish I just worked 50 hours a week, and I’m glad I want all Americans to have a chance.
If you only new what the rich really think of you.
Mercy
Liberals are for ALL people having a chance to be rich.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
4:22 pm

Josef, since you didn’t catch it, don’t you know – all conservatives are rich, bigoted, gay bashing, insecure little white people. That’s what many on this blog are telling us.

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:22 pm

Bob in Cobb

Just make sure this fella ain’t with you… :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JutCjbmcq7s

Realist

November 8th, 2012
4:22 pm

Joe, I honestly don’t know who “Ben” is–but your post sounded like it should have been directed at Bro. Are y’all not at the hotel yet?

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
4:23 pm

Or, is he being factually correct in stating that minorities receive more of the entitlement (apple) pie.?

The entitlement payout doesn’t allocate dollars by percentages, therefore comparing percentages of a demographic on welfare is misleading. If you really want to look at who impacts welfare dollars more, then you look at the actual numbers not percentages. Looking at percentages is nothing more than looking for a scapegoat to blame instead of staring face-to-face with reality.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
4:23 pm

“Does “Log Cabin Republicans” ring any bells?” No. What does it mean?

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
4:24 pm

Well how do you want to look at it Josef?? Let’s look at it in terms of business..

If I own the majority stake in a franchise or company, whether it be a sports team or traditional corporate entity, what does it mean? If I hold a “minority” stake, what does it mean?

From a socio-economic perspective what does it mean? If you think it’s sheer numbers WITHOUT POWER, you are wrong, although the power and numbers do typically go hand in hand. But that’s where the problem lies. “Minority” doesn’t simply mean color of skin. Frankly in my opinion it is just a politically correct term. Such things are really only an issue though when you have gross disparities in education, economics, justice, etc. People tend to not “feel” their minority status when they are able to compete on a level playing field, and have genuine access for participation on the various levels of any society.

Mark B

November 8th, 2012
4:25 pm

Proud to be a 2 time voter for President Obama, and one of millions of college-educated, gainfully employed “takers” who helped give him a second term. Time to come out of the Rush Limbaugh/Fox News cave and take a look around GOP. “Dick” Morris is absolutely correct, ‘this isn’t your father’s America’. Hasn’t been since around, oh, 1965.(Voting Rights Act)

SwamiDave

November 8th, 2012
4:26 pm

Joe Hussein:

“I think you’re deluding yourself if you think that people like Sheldon Adelson didn’t contribute huge amounts towards Romney’s election without an expectation of ‘getting something.’”

Were I Sheldon Adelson or someone with his resources (which, much to my chagrin, I am not ;) ), I would have contributed to Romney’s election as the candidate most likely to allow me to keep more of what I earn.

The viewpoint that lower taxes are “getting something” is grounded in the opinion that what one earns is not theirs.

Were a group of Obama voters to go to one of Adelson’s casinos and take thousands of dollars from the cashier’s desk, they would rightly be labelled thieves whether they “needed” the money or not. Were a few million Obama voters to simply go the polls and re-elect a President to do it on their behalf with promises to redistribute it to them, that is acceptable under the liberal, collectivist philoso-theology.

Ergo a quote that I repeat often – Liberals do with Legislation what Muggers do with Guns!

Frankly, this underlying point is the source of distrust for so many Taxpayers. It is insulting that so many apparently assume some right to that which I work to earn. Too many have replaced an assumption of entitlement instead of acting upon their opportunity.

-SD

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:27 pm

Nunna Yobinnes

Joe and Josef alter egos? Now THAT is funny…at least “we” don’t talk to “ourselves!” :-)

Willie L

“I can only tell you what I see. When it gets to be great I’m sure I’ll recognize it.”

Was sure looking great to me Tuesday night…and, no, I’m not talking about Obama’s reelection…

Oscar

November 8th, 2012
4:27 pm

I don’t think Georgia poses nearly the threat that LSU and Texas A&M does – Bro

___________

That’s where you mess up. Thinking has never been your long suit. (smile and laugh)

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:29 pm

N. Yobinnes — “Joe and your alter ego Josef”

I can speak for myself and Josef can speak for *himself.* And I’m sure he will.

“Any more insults you’d like to hurl my way? After all, I’m just a “hater.”

That depends. If you’re going to get further involved in the disagreements of others here, probably.

wreckinball

November 8th, 2012
4:29 pm

we do have an entitlement problem, lets face it, what used to be subsistence basic safety net has turned into a lower middle class life if you choose to not work, food stamps are abundant and generous, unemployment is almost nerve ending and section 8 housing is new 100K + townhouses. We are paying folks not to work and of course those folks don’t want that to change. O’Reilly is right.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
4:30 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:30 pm

“Realist” — “Are y’all not at the hotel yet?”

Yes we are, and we’re waitin’ on YOU to show up, Huggums! :D

deegee

November 8th, 2012
4:30 pm

What are you expecting them to say after they made such hideous mistakes? Mitt the Twit had been running for president for 6 years. He only won the states that would have voted for a republican chipmunk. He was the best that they could do and he was a miserable failure. Do you really think that they are going to say that Obama won because Mitt was just inept?

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
4:32 pm

***Here’s a little secret – I’m not necessarily proud to say it, but I voted for Obama. Not because I thought he was the better candidate (or worse), there really were no good choices this election. I voted for him because he never got a chance to see if his ideas might be helpful, due to the lack of any type of good faith attempt at compromise by the repubs. Extremism in either direction is not helping our problems.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:32 pm

S. Dave — “Were a few million Obama voters to simply go the polls and re-elect a President to do it on their behalf with promises to redistribute it to them, that is acceptable under the liberal, collectivist philoso-theology.”

I’m sorry, Dave. Despite our fruitful discussion of this morning, I can’t take you seriously if you’re going to assert this sort of claptrap.

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
4:32 pm

“Nunna Yobinnes
November 8th, 2012
4:14 pm

I thought the 47% didn’t pay taxes? I pay taxes.”

Now I normally don’t do that but in this case it is necessary. I really have to question your education on the issues if are sincere in that last post. Please tell me you were only kidding there. If you weren’t I have to say…that right there is the problem with many people who try to engage others on these issues when they rely on OTHERS to unsnap their craniums and put “stuff” into them rather than be informed from a 360 degree persective. Seriously, how can an individual argue a point when it is fundamentally flawed?

BobFromcobb

November 8th, 2012
4:32 pm

Yes, we are paying for the backward ideas of our parents, grandparents, and on back.
You cant FAIRLY invite a man to a race, shoot him in the leg at the starting line and then claim he had the same opportuniy as you. If our great grandparents had sucked it up 100 years ago and allowed for equal opportunity we wouldn’t be discussing welfare today. I just hope my sons aren’t saying the same thing 30 years from now.

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:33 pm

BOBin COBB

“Liberals are for ALL people having a chance to be rich.”

A couple of years ago I got into a tangle with one of our more party line, but nonteheless cultured, well read and intelligent, conservatives. She was taking me to task for being a plantation liberal since I had it good, so why was I getting so drama queen about the less fortunate. She couldn’t seem to grasp that I wanted everybody to have as good a life as I’ve had…

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
4:33 pm

Whew! All done…I hope! Bought myself an early Christmas present…a new PC. Then I had to buy updated software, as most of what I had wouldn’t run on this new one. Then I had to buy a new printer (got a deal there!) because my old one wasn’t supported for Windows 7. But I think I’ve got everything up and running and working now. Been a project, I can tell ya!

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:35 pm

JHM

And you can speak for yourself, but you gotta admit, calling me and you “alter egos” IS funny…

Realist

November 8th, 2012
4:37 pm

Bob, I would respectfully contend that it is the Democratic leaders who want–and NEED, as this election patently demonstrates–the poor to stay poor. As just one obvious example, under Obama, food stamp recipients have almost doubled (in other words, who has Obama gotten out of poverty in the last four years?)

By definition, and by design, these people stay dependent on governent and are more than reliable voters. That is also why the Democrats state that they are in favor of amnesty–yet, when they have control of the White House and Congress for two full years, they do nothing on the issue. But once again, the Hispanics were a lock to vote Democrat.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:37 pm

josef — “And you can speak for yourself, but you gotta admit, calling me and you “alter egos” IS funny…”

Anyone who thinks we’re the same person is either asleep, drunk or new here.

wreckinball

November 8th, 2012
4:38 pm

well we can’t afford the gov’t to be santa much longer and there are not enough rich people to tax to make up a trillion plus deficit per year. something’s gotta give and BO’s plan is more free stuff to his favored constituents

the saying goes if you rob peter to pay for paul you will always get paul’s vote

AmericaShrugged

November 8th, 2012
4:40 pm

Bro 4:13 – What percentage of the Democratic voters were white? You almost make it sound like all the white people voted for Rmney. If they had he would have won.
Obama in particular and the Dems in general have done a great job forging a coalition of minorities, gays, young, unions, etc. to win almost half of the important political positions in this country.
But most of the conservatives just don’t think that’s necessarily for the overall betterment of the country.

RW-(the original)

November 8th, 2012
4:41 pm

Did you know that 95% of the Republican voters in Ohio were White? I found that little gem when reading about exit poll data. I wonder how many of those who despise 95% of one race voting for a person will voice anger about that

Brosephus,

This is a drive by, but you’re off in the apples and oranges land here. The people that complain/despise/express concern for or what have you are talking about 95% of the entirety of one group going to one party. Your comparison leaves out the white D voters and I’d bet that universe of voters was more than 5% of the total white vote.

It does mean Republicans are screwed if they don’t whiten up Ohio though :-)

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:42 pm

KRYSTAL
@ 4:23

I would tend to agree with that.

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
4:42 pm

Several new “faces” here today. ironically offset by the absence of several old “faces”.

Realist, just settle on the perfect name and stick with it.

Maybe “Coward of the County”? LOL.

For you, Nunna Yobinnes, Joseph, towncrier, RB, Mssrs, Romney, Ryan, West, Walsh, Mourdock, Akin, Brown, Allen, Berg, et al.

And Republican mystery meat bloggers everywhere!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:43 pm

Realist — “Bob, I would respectfully contend that it is the Democratic leaders who want–and NEED, as this election patently demonstrates–the poor to stay poor. As just one obvious example, under Obama, food stamp recipients have almost doubled (in other words, who has Obama gotten out of poverty in the last four years?)”

The increase in SNAP recipients (food stamps have been discontinued for what, eight years now?) was greater, from both a percentage perspective and a raw number perspective, under President Bush. By that measure, Obama’s done *better* than his predecessor, but conservatives won’t admit that.

Liberal initiatives to press for increases in the minimum wage, for labor union negotiation rights, for employee benefits like FLMA, for expanded funding of mass transit system construction and operation *all* fly in the face of your claim that liberals want the poor to stay poor.

Both my grandfathers were UMWA coal miners in Ohio, and both told me that the benefits they received — which increased over time as they gained seniority — helped them *immensely* in raising their families. Both men were solidly middle-class when they died, despite being born in desperate poverty in the Appalachian coal country of southeastern OH.

And who pushed for those workplace benefits? Not conservatives.

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:43 pm

JHM

I know that’s right! :-)

RW-(the original)

November 8th, 2012
4:43 pm

is either asleep, drunk or new here.

Stick around long enough and you’ll realize that isn’t an either/or proposition.

/RW Out

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
4:44 pm

Sorry, I am rather new here. I’m really a moderate, but dang it, I want some free stuff too.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
4:44 pm

“I wanted everybody to have as good a life as I’ve had…”

Sounds like our President.

I think debt reduction and leveling the playing field for the future generations can be done.

We will drag the cons along as usual.

willie lynch

November 8th, 2012
4:45 pm

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:27 pm

“Was sure looking great to me Tuesday night…and, no, I’m not talking about Obama’s reelection…”

That’s one of the niceties of life…appearances.

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:45 pm

ZamVet

“Several new “faces” here today. ironically offset by the absence of several old “faces”.”

I had noticed that, too. Maybe we need to do a who’s who list. :-)

wreckinball

November 8th, 2012
4:45 pm

but the coalition is based on special privilege (with the exception of gays)

affirmative action (i.e. racism) and blocking folks “right to work” is not going to help the economy, it is just going to protect special interests

I agree with O’Reilly that the folks want free stuff. I also think a large number of the folks are just plain dumb. Really raise taxes on the rich and keep spending is your plan.

Ellen

November 8th, 2012
4:47 pm

Gotta love welfare for the 1% and corporations. They are the biggest takers of all…

getalife

November 8th, 2012
4:47 pm

How do you whiten up Ohio?

wreckinball

November 8th, 2012
4:48 pm

and BO is the king of corporate welfare, Solyndra, Fisker to name a few. And these companies took gov’t money and basically just closed. Great 4 more years of that

willie lynch

November 8th, 2012
4:48 pm

Krystal’sBalls

November 8th, 2012
4:24 pm

Very well put.

BobFromcobb

November 8th, 2012
4:48 pm

Although not proportional, whites still rule the welfare roll. We make up at least 39%.

we’re winning, we’re winning.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
4:49 pm

getalife – especially after decades of acid rain?

Regnad Kcin

November 8th, 2012
4:49 pm

Joe & Josef – he don’t know you very well, do he?

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:49 pm

willie L

I wouldn’t argue against that…and it works both ways…

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:50 pm

getalife — “How do you whiten up Ohio?”

I don’t know the demographic breakdown of the various regions, but based on my visits there, I’d say it’s pretty average in terms of how ‘white’ it is.

oops

November 8th, 2012
4:50 pm

Dow down again. Obama, not the best choice for the economy.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:50 pm

R. Kcin — “Joe & Josef – he don’t know you very well, do he?”

No he do not.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
4:51 pm

“getalife – especially after decades of acid rain?”

White strips?

LUCIFER

November 8th, 2012
4:51 pm

Hey, that’s OK with me. Let the GOP double down by becoming even more obstructionist and out-dated. Let the Tea Baggers have more control of the Party. Let’s let the Old White Guys fight every step of the way as they are put out to pasture. We have the Senate, we have the White House, now we need to recapture the House of Representatives and put Boehner and Canter into the trash heap of history. Let the Grand OLD Party continue to destroy any chances of leading this country because of their reluctance to accept the fact the demographics in the nation have changed, and that’s OK with me. Believe me, the incompetence of the Bush/Cheny regime soured me on this Party for the rest of my life. What buffoons!!

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:52 pm

wreckinball — “and BO is the king of corporate welfare, Solyndra, Fisker to name a few.”

Guess those no-competition, no-bid value-plus contracts the Bush Administration cut during the Iraq War escaped your notice, huh?

Billions gone missing and unaccounted for not a problem for you?

getalife

November 8th, 2012
4:54 pm

oops,

I am sure you will give our President credit when it reaches 13,000 again.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
4:55 pm

What percentage of the Democratic voters were white?

About 40%. That still doesn’t help the GOP in their outreach towards minorities. If they don’t expand the base, they will become irrelevant in Ohio. That was the point I wanted to make about that.

People talk about 95% of Blacks voting for one party, but the Black voting percentage increased in this past election cycle, especially in Ohio. That means that both parties will see increased numbers of Blacks voting even if the percentage don’t move at all.

On the other hand, the percentage of the White vote in Ohio decreased between elections. That doesn’t bode well for the future of the GOP, and it may end up switching Ohio from a purple to a diehard blue state. Given that no recent Republican has won a presidential election without carrying Ohio, that statistic should be very frightening to the GOP. It worries me as I think the country is better off if more states were open to go for either party vs always being locked into one column.

————————-

RW

I see your point. I guess I should have expounded quite a bit more as I did above. My bad…

getalife

November 8th, 2012
4:55 pm

cons can stop slobbering over the wealthy.

Even after a collapse, they are doing fine.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
4:56 pm

Oops — “Dow down again. Obama, not the best choice for the economy.”

I’ll take another four years of Obama. At least he didn’t return a 42% plunge from peak to trough like Bush (the younger) did.

If your retirement fund and investments didn’t take a stiff hit in 2008, then either you didn’t *have* those things or you were invested in the stacks of freeze-dried food and toilet paper piled up in your survivalist shelter.

Redcoat

November 8th, 2012
4:56 pm

Right on cue……..who said they are all minorities…….Jay is saying it and so it goes! All this because people just want to be liked……Ron Paul is right, we are too far gone now and they can’t print the money fast enough now. Good Times!

josef

November 8th, 2012
4:57 pm

JHM

“No he do not.”

He at least got us to agree on ONE thing… :-)

pete

November 8th, 2012
4:58 pm

California Voters Approve Higher Taxes
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324439804578104854095658918.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird)

The headline should read,
California Voters Approve Taking Money From Achievers And Hand To Moochers

This is EXACTLY why my brother moved from San Francisco to Yuma,AZ.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
5:02 pm

redcoat,

Is your name thomas?

curious

November 8th, 2012
5:02 pm

For all of us.

We need to stop being so gleeful on bad economic reports because they hurt the other party.

Obama is here for 4 more years and it’ll be to our collective good to work together to make things better.

And no, no party has a monopoly on brains or good ideas.

Chip Shirley 'the Dixie Dove'

November 8th, 2012
5:03 pm

RIGHT ON JAY

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
5:04 pm

Thank you curious. Well said.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
5:04 pm

Redcoat — “……Ron Paul is right, we are too far gone now and they can’t print the money fast enough now. ”

So what’s your solution? A rapid contraction of the money supply? Defaulting on national debt? A return to barter? I hear your complaint, but I’m not hearing any recommendations.

BobFromcobb

November 8th, 2012
5:05 pm

REAL numbers here.

4.1% of Americans on welfare costing $193 B
Average % taxes for top 1 million wage earners in America 10.3%

IF……. The top 1 million earning citizens actually paid my 16.5% taxes I paid last year it would be almost $100 B

You’re worried about the wrong thing.
My tree constantly complaining tree cutter gave me 30% off if I paid cash. Why you reckon he did that Barney.

josef

November 8th, 2012
5:06 pm

curioua

“And no, no party has a monopoly on brains or good ideas.”

Pretty hard to have a monopoly on what neither one has an overabundance of.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
5:07 pm

pete — “California Voters Approve Taking Money From Achievers And Hand To Moochers”

My wife’s best friend from college is *filthy* stinkin’ rich. So rich, in fact, that if I told you his name, you’d immediately know how his family made their money.

Assuming my wife’s friend didn’t bother to work (he does work, but let’s assume for a moment that he doesn’t), then exactly *what* has he achieved in his wife, other than being born to the right family?

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think

November 8th, 2012
5:07 pm

Interesting…
——

Breaking from Newsmax.com

Ex Malo Bonum — From Bad Comes Good

By Michael Burns

Being a moderate Republican can be very lonely. I supported Mitt Romney for the simple reason that I believed that he would accomplish more than our current president.

In truth, there is no real Republican Party today. Will Rogers’ famous line, “I’m not a member of any organized political party, I’m a Democrat,” better fits the fragmented state of today’s dysfunctional Republican family.

My father, who landed at Iwo Jima and recently passed away, used to tell me that if your point of view doesn’t upset the zealots on both sides of an issue, then it probably doesn’t come close to solving the problem at hand. I agree with him.

Women and Hispanics voted overwhelming for Obama’s second term, and they should have. I agree whole-heartedly with my dear friend Susan Collins of Maine who told The New York Times recently, “Republicans cannot win with just rural, white voters.” That said, neither Democrats nor our country can win without Democrats reaching across the aisle to actually get something done. And it better be soon.

Immigration

“Self-deportation” has always been a laughable concept and obviously not a solution. When I attended one of Gov. Romney’s exclusive LA fundraising dinners, he spoke both specifically and eloquently of a point system that could be a way for undocumented workers to stay in this country. But sadly, that dialogue disappeared during the campaign.

Our newly re-elected president now has a golden opportunity to get real immigration reform passed this term if he actually garners just a handful of key Republican lawmakers to help with that cause.

George W. Bush made a colossal mistake going back into Iraq, but he was incredibly forward thinking with his “DREAM Act” and his view toward embracing our nation’s undocumented immigrant population. Now is when the president and smart Republicans can band together and make something positive happen here.

Women’s Rights

I do not know where a human life actually begins, but no sane person is ever “pro-abortion.” Although Paul Ryan’s sonogram heartbeat story resonated with me, I do not believe that we can completely deny a woman’s right to terminate a pregnancy.

Instead, I would draw a line in the sand and give that right only in the first trimester. After that date, only a woman’s life being at stake would be a legally sanctioned justification to abort.

As a consequence, it must be our society’s obligation to find adoptive homes for these unwanted children after they are born and their mothers decide they cannot care for them.

Gay Rights

As far as I’m concerned, if gay people want to get married in a state that has deemed it legal, then they should be allowed to do so without federal interference.

How is it that the Republican Party ended up at war with gay people?

The solutions to our economic and geopolitical problems have nothing to do with an individual’s sexual identity.

Iran and Israel

Another terrible consequence of the Iraqi war was that we took out Iran’s “natural” enemy and thereby facilitated their development of nuclear weapons.

In truth, the United States today has very few reliable allies in the world, but Israel is certainly one of them. However, we must stop pretending that the Palestinians are going to settle the conflict without being granted real land.

In much the same way that our country helped launch Israel as it exists today, we must take the same leading position with the creation of the state of Palestine. And yes, we must help fund this initiative and lean on every capable country to do the same.

As part of this plan we must also stop supporting countries that don’t adhere to basic human rights. This list naturally includes a wide range of oil-rich empires that have simply exploited our country’s shortsighted and seemingly never-ending dependence on foreign fossil fuels.

An obvious partial solution here is one which our current president should not hesitate to implement by simply reversing his position on the Keystone Pipeline. Of course conservation and alternative energy policies must be implemented, and I for one believe there is a terrific opportunity in natural gas exploration and exploitation.

Both clear-thinking Republicans and Democrats want to protect the environment for future generations, but we must also focus on creating jobs and finding a way to move toward energy independence.

Entitlement Programs

Every person I count as a friend believes in a safety net. They also don’t believe in a free ride. That being said, the simple fact remains that minimum wage doesn’t cut it for most families, and a lot of people have quite logically come to believe they are better off living on government subsidies.

My simple, and yes, complicated, solution to improving this situation is a two-year matching program for anyone currently on subsidies who finds employment. If that person finds a job at minimum wage, the government will match that wage dollar for dollar over a specified time frame.

The incentive is obvious. If you work, you are rewarded. Of course, this isn’t perfect, but I believe it is a much more promising approach than launching Stimulus III which (as recent history indicates) would be both unmanageable and imprudent.

The status quo. This isn’t about the money, it’s about the money!

A talented director friend of mine and I had an interesting email exchange last week. I wrote to compliment him on his powerful Obama campaign video in which he had very effectively used regular people. In the course of our dialogue, it became clear that we both agreed on one thing for certain: the system is broken.

I believe that money is very much the root cause of this breakdown.

Although money will not necessarily get you elected (as evidenced by the Connecticut Senate race) it certainly influences the outcome of too many bills in Congress. Some independent-thinking friends of mine in New Mexico are spending real money coming up with a constitutional amendment to address this issue.

Although certainly an uphill battle, I applaud my pals for putting their money towards this extremely worthwhile cause.

Most of the reasonable people I know believe that we must do most of the following: Stop printing money, demand China play by the same rules the rest of the world does with regard to their currency, spend less on the military and demand accountability on what we do spend with enormous penalties for fraud, rethink Obamacare, which although passed with good intentions is too flawed to succeed.

A safety net needs to be established, but the system needs to be streamlined without the injection of undue government influence.

I had some fun just before the election and wore a Romney pin while dropping off my 5-year-old son Tiernan to his very Democratic leaning kindergarten. While discussing the upcoming elections the day before, he had announced to his class that although his dad was voting for Romney, he, his mother, and 4-year-old brother were “voting for Obama.”

Upon hearing that story from my son’s teacher, David, I knew in my heart the election was over. I had a similar sinking feeling when I actually took the time to read the Republican convention platform. I, like most of the Republicans I respect, agreed with little of it.

Why, then, I was asked as I walked away from Tiernan’s school, was I still a Republican? It was and is a very good question.

The two presidents I admire most are Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan. Both were very different and both Republicans.

Like President Reagan, who I had the privilege of spending some time with as a young man, I believe the federal government is inherently inefficient, and the more money we give it to spend, the more money it will misspend. Again, I believe most of my friends from both parties can agree on that point.

The United States of America is the most generous country in the world filled with enormously magnanimous people. Whether one is a Democrat or Republican most of us who have the means would gladly pay more in taxes if it were shown that our income taxes were in fact being effectively invested in our country and for the purposes and citizens truly in need of those funds. Doing that, in my view, is this second term president’s biggest challenge.

Michael Burns is vice-chairman of Lionsgate, one of the nation’s leading entertainment companies.

© 2012 Newsmax. All rights reserved

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
5:08 pm

correction to above: ” . . . then exactly *what* has he achieved in his life, other than being born to the right family?:”

Speeling errur :D

bob

November 8th, 2012
5:08 pm

If the GOP want to compete with the democrat party they have to give more stuff away, fairly simple.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
5:11 pm

I wants me some free stuff.

Erwin's cat

November 8th, 2012
5:11 pm

JHM – What makes you so sure *you’re* a man?

I thought you answered that downstairs?

Are we not men? :D

getalife

November 8th, 2012
5:12 pm

bob,

2 trillion to the military industrial complex and trillions in tax cuts and other corporate welfare not big enough for you?

Get a grip bob.

BobFromcobb

November 8th, 2012
5:12 pm

GOA
Defense spending is still number one.
My 401k is up 22% in 3 years. Thanks Prez

The popular vote would have been different but data mining said the election could be won by winning the swing states. Glad I live down here where it doesn’t matter, I didn’t have to miss my railroad commercials.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
5:13 pm

We should listen to the gop but never do what they say because they are always dead wrong.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 8th, 2012
5:13 pm

E. Cat — “I thought you answered that downstairs? Are we not men?”

WE ARE DEVO

D – E – V- O

(staccato guitar break)

:D

josef

November 8th, 2012
5:43 pm

Well somebody say something….

JohnnyReb

November 8th, 2012
5:43 pm

I really love it when a group of old white guys in the liberal press, like MSNBC or little Stephie, tells us the problem with the Repubican party is that it is old white guys. What the heck do they think they are?

One thing for sure – we don’t need the liberal media/pundits telling what is wrong with us. Their solution is to make us like them. That’s not gonna happen.

Another point is, there were more white people who cast votes in the election than any other race. We may be browning, but we are not to the brown majority yet.

If there is a Republican problem it is with white people, not minorities.

JohnnyReb

November 8th, 2012
5:44 pm

hello josef – can you hear me?

josef

November 8th, 2012
5:48 pm

JohnnyReb

Yeah, I hear you…even if my head is WAAAAY up here in the clouds…

Erwin's cat

November 8th, 2012
5:49 pm

josef – can you hear me?

can you feel me near you?

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 8th, 2012
5:50 pm

josef

Hear this one out. Also all you whiners out there LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpHmxxSKBQc

:-)

lynnie gal

November 8th, 2012
5:51 pm

Leave it to the rich guy on TV to complain that poor people want “stuff”.

BobFromcobb

November 8th, 2012
5:51 pm

Liberal. A view that’s embraces everyone’s right to life, liberty and propert(prosperity). It’s better than conservative(status quo), rich stay rich and poor stay poor. Anybody making less than 250k\yr is not voting with they’re pocket book if they vote republican, they’re just dreaming the American dream. Rich men don’t won’t you to get rich, they want you to make them richer. 90% of small business fail after three years, but not until they made someone else richer. Silly wabbits.

Erwin's cat

November 8th, 2012
5:55 pm

90% of small business fail after three years, but not until they made someone else richer.

huh?

Road Scholar

November 8th, 2012
5:56 pm

Johnny Reb: Have you ever heard of the word “listen”? How about “consider”?

josef

November 8th, 2012
5:58 pm

Common Sense

:-)

gm

November 8th, 2012
5:58 pm

What about the all the people in Ohio and Mich, Fl who have jobs and voted for the President are they lazy and want free stuff? untill the right stop listen old white conservatives guys like O’Reilly, scum bags like Rush, Hannity, Neal B. the only votes the rep are going to get are confederate voters.

Have these idiots on the right ever thought young rep voted for Obama? because poor, middle whites dont have the money to send their kids to college and have to use pell grants like every one else. Obama won states where there is a small amount of blacks, VT, RI, Iowa.

News Flash

November 8th, 2012
5:58 pm

Enter your comments here

Ronald Reagan Parkway

November 8th, 2012
6:01 pm

Romney ‘transition’ website briefly appears online

Mitt Romney told reporters aboard his plane on Tuesday afternoon that he had prepared an 1,118-word “victory speech” to give supporters on election night. And it appears the Romney campaign was preparing a website for his transition from candidate to president, too.
The site appeared online on Wednesday and was taken down—but not before Taegan Goddard, a blogger for Roll Call’s Political Wire, captured screenshots, which included a “President Elect” seal, information about the inauguration, a fresh tagline (”Smaller, Simpler, Smarter”) and a quote from the Republican nominee (”I’m excited about our prospects as a nation. My priority is putting people back to work in America.”).
The site also included a page with information on how to join the Romney administration, as well as a section on the president-elect’s process of picking a Cabinet:
President-elect Romney is working closely with his transition team to put together his administration to ensure a smooth transfer of power on January 20th, 2013 and get to work for the American people.
It’s unclear how long the transition site was live or who was responsible for its content. A spokesman for the Romney campaign did not return a request for comment.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-transition-192214963–election.html

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
6:03 pm

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/millions-tax-dollars-diverted-private-schools/nS2by/

A Channel 2 investigation uncovered public tax money diverted so private school students could get a break on their tuition.

The tax credit scholarship program was intended to help Georgia students get out of struggling public schools, but Channel 2’s Kerry Kavanaugh found it doesn’t always work that way.

[...]

The so-called scandal involves a state law that allows people to divert state tax money to private schools. Under the law, Georgians would get a dollar-for-dollar tax credit by donating money to help private schools. Then, that money was supposed to help disadvantaged students who attend those schools.

[...]

Before it was law, state Rep. David Casas said his tax credit scholarship program would help “students transfer from public schools to private schools” and “help parents who can’t afford private education.”

But the law itself had no wording about helping impoverished children. The law also said students must be enrolled in a public school but didn’t explicitly say they had to attend class, allowing private school students to also enroll in public schools to collect the credit benefit.

In a 2011 video, Casas told private school parents the wording of the law was intentional.

[...]

Channel 2 filed an open records request with the Georgia Department of Revenue for audits and other records from the Georgia Student Scholarship Organization, but the department denied the request and said it would be illegal to release the information.

State Rep. Earl Ehrhart, a co-sponsor of the scholarship bill, maintained critics could not prove that the money was misused.

When Kavanaugh asked him if it was possible to identify how many students have benefited from the law and if they are in fact in need, Ehrhart replied, “No, and why should we have to worry about the basic minutia with that respect when what we’re trying to do is benefit these children?”

Just think, Georgians have just given these people even more control over not only their state tax dollars, but their local tax dollars as well. Make way for the “Big Government Express” and watch your tax dollars end up in the pockets of your legislator’s best friends and political campaign donors.

Rightwing Troll

November 8th, 2012
6:04 pm

“well we can’t afford the gov’t to be santa much longer and there are not enough rich people to tax to make up a trillion plus deficit per year. something’s gotta give and BO’s plan is more free stuff to his favored constituents”

Pillbo alert Pillbo alert!!! quick, get this man an oxycodone… before he really starts to believe what his fat, angry, pied piper tells him to believe…

josef

November 8th, 2012
6:05 pm

ROAD SCHOLAR

JohnnyReb did listen and did consider…he’s one of my heroes…jus’ sayin’

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2012
6:09 pm

Are republicans still in mourning?

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 8th, 2012
6:10 pm

somebody out to switch out Rush’s oxycodone with Viagra so he can go fork himself to death LOL

j/k

josef

November 8th, 2012
6:10 pm

TAXI

Looks like they’ve taken a vow of silence… :-)

josef

November 8th, 2012
6:11 pm

Common Sense
@ 6:10

:-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 8th, 2012
6:12 pm

TP

Are republicans still in mourning?
————————————————

No, their families will be when they frighten themselves to death over the election :-)

Road Scholar

November 8th, 2012
6:13 pm

People have complained about the affects of racially diverse impacts on welfare.Check this out:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002144229

It is based off the 2010 census. 63% of all welfare is to whites, 12 % to African Americans, 16% to Hispanics, and 5% to Asian. Sort of destroys the myth that non whites are “lazy” huh?

Georgia

November 8th, 2012
6:13 pm

Conservatives are going through the five stages from grief to acceptance. They’ve blamed every possible group. Blacks. Latinos. Mother Nature. No, All women. No all women’s reproductive systems.

Wait’ll they find out it was Mother Nature’s G(OP) Spot that prevents Birthers what done them in.

Let’s give them some room.

BobFromcobb

November 8th, 2012
6:14 pm

All that capital you borrowed , inherited , or maybe even saved is lost to others as you SPEND SPEND trying to start you business. That’s the risk of living the dream. When you are spending you are growing wealth for others. That’s what 90% of small business co’s do as they’re going out of business.
Why are we complaining. More millionaires are made during a recession than in any other economic climate.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
6:14 pm

“Romney’s top campaign official in Florida conceded that Obama will win the state, acknowledging a vote count that was moving inexorably against the Republicans.”

mitt is gone.

Totally crushed.

Life is good.

BobFromcobb

November 8th, 2012
6:16 pm

39% white. Check your smart box again. Not that it matters unless you’re one of them.

josef

November 8th, 2012
6:17 pm

ROAD SCHOLAR

Interesting, isn’t it, how closely those figures reflect that group’s share of the general population?

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
6:17 pm

If you listen to the language of the GOP right now, they are forecasting their strategy to go forward.
LISTEN UP AND TAKE NOTE, BECAUSE YOU HEARD IT FROM KRYSTAL’S BALLS FIRST!!

They don’t care about bringing Blacks or other ehnic groups into the “tent”. They only care about “Latinos”. So here is the plan – DRAW A WEDGE BY STIRRING UP ANIMOSITY BETWEEN BLACKS AND LATINOS/HISPANICS.

Cynical? Yes….but again you heard it here FIRST.

Krystal’s Balls.

josef

November 8th, 2012
6:20 pm

KRYSTAL

“DRAW A WEDGE BY STIRRING UP ANIMOSITY BETWEEN BLACKS AND LATINOS/HISPANICS.”

Just being EOI here, but they won’t have to stir too hard…

Mick

November 8th, 2012
6:21 pm

usmc

Of course I tune into el flusbo every now and then, it’s basic godfather 101 – “keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer”. The great bloviator has skills and is the ultimate excuse maker, I had to tune in the day after and hear it to believe it, he didn’t disappoint. If you continue to let him lead your party, you are doomed or damned, same result…

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2012
6:21 pm

I think it only appropriate that those of us not in mourning be there for those in mourning. I am here for you guys and gals. Go ahead and grieve. I know that you placed you faith in Karl rove and his faux math and in faux news and their foxy hosts and in rassamatazz polling results, etc. it is okay to feel abused.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
6:23 pm

Krystal’s Balls,

The old divide and conquer strategy.

I think they will pass immigration reform again to try to get them back.

bill copeland

November 8th, 2012
6:23 pm

as for ‘takers’, note that red states (like georgia, the rest of the deep south, and the plains and mountain states) are the ” takers” when it comes to dividing the federal goodies. it is the blue states (like mass, minnesota, new york, connecticut, new jersey, illinois, and california, and the other coastal states) that pay far more in federal taxes than they get back in federal payments. apparently, it is the republican states that ‘want stuff’, in the immortal words of bill o’reilly.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
6:26 pm

Kinda on topic of the GOP’s self-defeating image….

http://gawker.com/5958923/australia-twitter+shames-the-crap-out-of-random-teen-who-threatens-to-move-down-under-after-obama-win

18-year-old Kristen Neel of Georgia thought she would be just another threat in the crowd when she tweeted shortly after President Obama’s reelection that she was “moving to Australia, because their president is a Christian and actually supports what he says.”

However, not wanting to get stuck with someone as ignorant as Neel, the people of Australia quickly banded together and tweet-shamed her into oblivion.

“[O]ur “president” is a prime minister, is a woman, and is an atheist,” responded one of the more than 1,500 Twitter users who retweeted Neel’s remark. “I think you meant Antarctica. Move there.”

I actually feel bad for her in a sense, but that’s what you get for exposing your lack of learning for everyone in the world to see. If only she were under the age of 18, maybe she could enroll in a charter school. :)

Mick

November 8th, 2012
6:26 pm

bill copeland

In the immortal words of scout: Thanks for that…

getalife

November 8th, 2012
6:27 pm

The takers are the military industrial complex (mic) and the coc (chamber of commerce).

The mic and coc get trillions not millions.

Please include these facts in your moocher arguments,

Thanks.

gm

November 8th, 2012
6:29 pm

Obama wins Florida by 55,000 thank God for Florida or Romney would have won the confederate as President.
Wake up conservatives southerners you always have been on the wrong side of history, slavery , civil rights, women rights, Obama, and you wonder why you are the butt of every joke around the world.

saywhat?

November 8th, 2012
6:31 pm

So here is the plan – DRAW A WEDGE BY STIRRING UP ANIMOSITY BETWEEN BLACKS AND LATINOS/HISPANICS.
__________________________________________________
They tried that to some extent in 2000. No doubt they will try again.

F. Sinkwich

November 8th, 2012
6:31 pm

The resident genius on this blog posted a pithy, spot-on observation worthy of review:

“O’bozo said four years ago he would fundamentally change America. I naively believed he couldn’t do that, but he succeeded.

All he had to do was promise free stuff (healthcare, student loans, rubbers and whatnot) funded by undeserving ingrates (the “rich”) and it worked, easily!

RIP USA, 1776 – 2012″

The free lunch crowd now runs the country. I accept that.

By the way, how do I get my Obamaphone?

Common Sense isn't very Common

November 8th, 2012
6:32 pm

Bro

I woulda tweeted the twit back and said come on down.

Except our PM is a woman, atheist and an aborgine :-)

josef

November 8th, 2012
6:32 pm

gm

Yeah, but us Southerners are statistically verifiably way ahead of our Northern kin where it really matters, right SoCoBro? :-)

DawgDad

November 8th, 2012
6:36 pm

Jay, you are off-the-charts intellectually dishonest about the GOP and minorities. Calling us racists is not going to promote domestic peace and harmony in America. I’m not, and I don’t appreciate you or anyone else calling me racist.

The problem conservative voters have with illegal immigrants is they take stuff to which they are not legally entitled and create thorny social and economic problems. I would advise you my MAIN issue with illegal immigration has NOTHING to do with a person’s skin color; it has NOTHING to do with the immigrants themselves and EVERYTHING to do with the politicians in Washington and with rubbish spewed by the mainstream media. The fact is the Democrats and main stream media don’t want to SOLVE the problem of illegal immigration because it would take their pet issue off the table and render the immigrants less dependent on them.

The problem with abortion, by and large, is the right to choose has morphed into the right to force us to pay for it. Call me racist? My position on abortion would promote MORE minority births and voters. That’s an indisputable fact.

Gay marriage? As it stands, working as I do for a Fortune 500 corporation, I can obtain health insurance coverage for a same-sex domestic partner but NOT an opposite sex domestic partner unless that partner is a spouse. Pure nuttiness, foisted on us by the LBGT lobby and Democrats, who I have no doubt would insist this is not discriminatory. Gay marriage is NOT a civil right, despite what any 20-somethings think. Marriage is not a civil right, it’s a civil rite. I guess our leftist schools don’t teach the difference.

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
6:38 pm

RIP Andy.

We Americans will keep kicking ass without you, thank you very little!

indigo

November 8th, 2012
6:41 pm

TaxPayer – “are the Republicans still in mourning”

It’s much more serious than that. Most Republicans flooded God with fervent prayers for Romney to be elected. Most actually felt their “God of love” spoke to them and assured a victory.

Now, they are shaken to their fundamentalist roots, engaging in frenetic bouts of mental gymnanstics and convoluted thinking in order to get their house of faith off the shifting sands of doubt and back on the rock of certainty.

Since blind faith tops any amount of logic and reason, they’ll soon be back to rock solid faith. Unfortunately, they then have to figure what to do about all those pesky women, Black and Latino voters.

josef

November 8th, 2012
6:43 pm

indigo

Logic and reason rest on faith.

liberal hack

November 8th, 2012
6:43 pm

gm, how rude of you! I am always going to be on the other side of large instrusive big gov’t that you so lovingly endorse. I will always love smaller gov’t that doesn’t take tax dollars and distributes to whomever they desire….

RF

November 8th, 2012
6:43 pm

I was reading earlier over on Kyle’s insane blog and he’s already pushing that the Republican party not change it’s platform or stance. The undoing of the party is in full swing if they’re going to stay so far to the right. The best they’ll likely do is try to trot out another Herman Cain to say “see we’re diverse!”

And judging from some of the drivel here, apparently they’re all in agreement about it. Sad because once upon a time I was politically moderate and voted Republican often. Not anymore I’ll promise you that!!

RF

November 8th, 2012
6:46 pm

“Now, they are shaken to their fundamentalist roots, engaging in frenetic bouts of mental gymnanstics and convoluted thinking in order to get their house of faith off the shifting sands of doubt and back on the rock of certainty”

Well, I never thought I’d say this… but I have to agree with you there, indigo. Evidently you’re not a card-carrying member of the Blind Faith club that has taken the Republican party to this sad state. Must say I’m impressed!

F. Sinkwich

November 8th, 2012
6:47 pm

“RIP Andy.”

Hi, Jammie. Do mean me?

I’ve been referred to as Fish Sandwich, Stinkwich, Stinky, Stinkiewich, Frank, Fishy, and other terms of endearment.

I understand the root all of those derivations. Not so with “Andy.”

Puzzling…

josef

November 8th, 2012
6:49 pm

Nyanh…Sinkwich is no Andy. At least ever once in a while Andy said something witty…and could always come up with something novel…

liberal hack

November 8th, 2012
6:51 pm

RF, would you vote Republican if they were true fiscal conservatives but dabbled less in social issues?

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
6:52 pm

NoCom

The article has a few responses on there, and it sounds like the Australians gave her the business. I kinda feel bad for her as she has been embarassed worldwide for her lack of knowledge of world events.

————————-

Yeah, but us Southerners are statistically verifiably way ahead of our Northern kin where it really matters, right SoCoBro?

Yep!!!!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
6:53 pm

Conservative talk radio host Neal Boortz unleashed an astounding array of attacks on President Obama on Thursday, likening him to figures such as Adolf Hitler and serial killer Ted Bundy, as well as terrorist groups Al Qaeda and Ansar al-Sharia.

Boortz, whose Atlanta radio show is nationally syndicated, was addressing a commentary by Herman Cain, in which the former Republican presidential candidate congratulated Obama on his reelection. Boortz replied: “OK, Herman Cain, that’s BS.”

Always the classy one that Boortz.

Billybob

November 8th, 2012
6:54 pm

‘the 65%’ including you jay do not respect the law of our land and disrespect every person who is coming here legally…..you are on the wrong side of this morally…..i feel the illegals pain, but morally they should respect the laws of the land they wish to enter instead of breaking them as their first act to enter this country…..typical liberal ignoring actual sovereignty law

the ‘59%’ that believe it should be up to the individual to decide if they want to kill their baby after they chose to engage in the act where it was conceived…….morally, enough said my friend

the ‘49%’ have always been able to do what they want, but don’t expect that viewpoint to be shoved down my throat when i choose to promote traditional marriage…..morally i have just as much right to my opinion as you and listening to you claiming the moral authority is something you will only have to square with your god…….

RIP USA 1776-2012

when you have a media and dem party that lies every day about someone and attacks their character every day and you have a nation full of people who lack the ability to define what is lie and what is not……i give you the socialist democratic party of the united states led by barrack obama……saul alinsky would be proud of your ilk jay…..your ideology will be held accountable at some point in the future for what has happened the last for years and what is about to happen via the radical leftist dem party……

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2012
6:56 pm

A so-called “true” fiscal conservative would utilize “true” math in their analyses. This is in contrast to our present-day Republican’s use of a faith-based math, a math that simply requires faith in whatever answer they happen to need from any given equation. 2+2=3, for example is perfectly valid in Republican faith-based math so long as you have faith in the answer.

Mick

November 8th, 2012
6:57 pm

sink

I’m with josef, sink has his own signature – mostly wrong and pessimistic. It’s a tough responsibility; he wears it well…

RF

November 8th, 2012
6:57 pm

@liberal hack: I rarely vote party tickets anyway, but I would definitely consider a fiscal conservative with moderate social stances. Back in ‘08, I actually thought Romney, based on his record as governor, would have been a far better candidate that McCain if he had been allowed to run as a moderate. He might have won, in my opinion, even this year if he hadn’t had to pull so far right to get the primaries. I generally prefer moderates across the board in either party. Obama, despite the conservative media assertions otherwise, is actually a moderate. I never have voted further left than Clinton and probably never will.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
6:57 pm

cons think America dies this year.

They have meds for that bilbob.

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
6:58 pm

“RIP USA 1776-2012″

Pretty lively corpse that USA

Billybob

November 8th, 2012
6:59 pm

jay,
one of obama’s last rally’s involved jay z who performed a song that inclused the word ho and bitches numerous times and he decided to put romney’s name in instead of the bitches words…..at a presidential rally obama was actually condoning a performance that ridiculed woman as ho’s and bitches…..please expound on the moral authority here please…….

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
6:59 pm

when you have a media and dem party that lies every day about someone and attacks their character every day and you have a nation full of people who lack the ability to define what is lie and what is not……

So what do you get when you have conservative media and a GOP party that lies everyday about someone and attacks their character, religion, and family every day and you have a nation full of people who lack the ability to define what is a lie and what is not?

RF

November 8th, 2012
7:00 pm

“Always the classy one that Boortz”

Well, at least he’s consistent…crazy, but consistent. I wonder how long the party leadership will cowtow to these guys. Do you think there’s a chance they’ll quit letting the folks like Boortz and Hannity and Limbaugh dictate policy?

Billybob

November 8th, 2012
7:01 pm

long live the united socialist states of america libs……you made it happen, nice work

Mick

November 8th, 2012
7:01 pm

billybob

The truth is obama ran a smarter campaign and outhustled romney. They systematically targeted their base and got them out. It’s a numbers game and democrats far outnumber republicans. Turnout and new registration was the key and they were smarter than romney – think about that. I want the smartest organization running the gov’t, not second best. Read and analyze-

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57547239/adviser-romney-shellshocked-by-loss

F. Sinkwich

November 8th, 2012
7:01 pm

Gotta luv them lib ilks. From CBS NY:

“Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s food police have struck again! Outlawed are food donations to homeless shelters because the city can’t assess their salt, fat and fiber content, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer. Glenn Richter arrived at a West Side synagogue on Monday to collect surplus bagels — fresh nutritious bagels — to donate to the poor. However, under a new edict from Bloomberg’s food police he can no longer donate the food to city homeless shelters.”

Moochelle will ensure this lunacy is propagated nationwide. Count on it.

But hey, the moonbats have taken over this once great country, so that’s the way it is as Uncle Walter used to say.

RIP USA

getalife

November 8th, 2012
7:03 pm

RIP USA.

There is your sign.

Still delusional and refused the meds filky.

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
7:05 pm

Why do I have the feeling that Billbob is having a hard time coping with losing?

Mick

November 8th, 2012
7:06 pm

sink

When I’m out in tahoe next month, I’ll be very thankful I live in the USA, but then,
I’m even thankful for another sunrise…

Billybob

November 8th, 2012
7:06 pm

brocephus,
want some free stuff that i have decided to take from jay and redistribute it……republicans are by far more civic minded than dem voters and actually look at facts instead of believing the vp who states that republicana are gonna put ya’ll back in chains and the republicans are gonna take women and gays and minorities back 50 years to the days of jim crow……many democrat voters actually believed that even though it is blatantly disgustingly dishonest……….kind of like if it was a republican in the white house and he claimed a video caused our ambassador to be killed, conservatives would not accept that and demand answers, but libs like you sweep it under the rug…..

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
7:07 pm

Do you think there’s a chance they’ll quit letting the folks like Boortz and Hannity and Limbaugh dictate policy?

It is so much more than policy. These are the people that created, honed and polished the language of political debate. It is that language where ideas are born and nurtured. Right now that nursery is churning out some little hellions. It is only when we adapt a new language that conservatives and liberals can begin to work together.

josef

November 8th, 2012
7:07 pm

DOGGONE

“Pretty lively corpse that USA”

I wish I’d said that! Good one. :-)

Bitsa

November 8th, 2012
7:07 pm

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha… O’Reilly is likening Obama’s campaign message to something like “get a free toaster with every vote!” … just like in ancient (& more comfortable for him I guess) “white establishment” times when you got one for opening a bank account! That would all be just tooooo effin funny, except for how easy he finds it to dismiss the real concerns of real people & degrade the intellectual & moral capacity of absolutely everyone who didn’t vote for his “more established” politician!

Georgia

November 8th, 2012
7:08 pm

You know, the women really did give it to the Right. I mean, Rove and Fox News truly were set up by the women. They really did think they were gonna win, because all the single, sexually active women were polling early that they had gone full sugar daddy. I was told many times by these same type of women that I was their one and only. I know how conservatives feel. I asked Ms. Coulter, “You gonna make ‘em pay, Ann?”

Oh, is she gonna make em pay………she’s writing a new book as we speak, “Muffed”, but that’s only a working title.

Ronald Reagan Parkway

November 8th, 2012
7:08 pm

。☆ 。☆。☆
★。\|/。★
Obama 4 MORE
–Deal with it TroIIs–
★。/|\。★
。☆。 。☆。

RF

November 8th, 2012
7:09 pm

“republicans are by far more civic minded than dem voters ”

Unless you’re part of that now infamous “47%” in which case you’re on your own. That about right? They don’t even want you voting. How “civic minded” is that?

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
7:09 pm

Thanks Josef!

Billybob

November 8th, 2012
7:09 pm

mick,
congrats you have the smartest radical leftist democrat party led by a redistributionist socialist in the white house who has nationalised car companies, healthcare, student loans and who is in the process of bringing down the capitalist economic system based on what he deems as fairness……way to think that one through…..

RF

November 8th, 2012
7:10 pm

“It is only when we adapt a new language that conservatives and liberals can begin to work together”

Nah, all we gotta do is drop the McCarthy inspired dialogue and tone down the “socialist” and “communist” litany. Fat chance of that any time soon, IMO.

liberal hack

November 8th, 2012
7:11 pm

@Taxpayer, I’d like to think that I am, you are correct that some conservative use fuzzy math..

@rf I think most Americans would be fine w/ a fiscal conservative but socially moderate….

I personally have very Christian views on abortion, gay marriage, ect..but I don’t think it’s gov’ts job to legislate that. I don’t feel my marraige is threatened if two dudes get married. I only want to be able to teach my children my biblical values and I don’t want my church to have to marry two dudes if my pastor opposes doing such, which my church would…..but I don’t see a problem w/ gays being allowed to marry….I don’t want to see abortion banned, but I don’t want to pay for it directly or indirectly for someone else to have one if they choose, I’m okay with limiting how late an abortion is done and I’m completely okay w/ ensuring abortion providers are legitimately educated practicing doctors…..just my take…..I personally would try to sway a female who was thinking of getting one to consider adoption but I wouldn’t make it law….

I want to see a gov’t that spends wisely and stays within budget…I also don’t feel comfortable with a federal gov’t as large as it is, it is somewhere around 20-25% of total GDP I think….it should remain around 12.5-15% of GDP unless there is a true national emergency….

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
7:12 pm

“except for how easy he finds it to dismiss the real concerns of real people & degrade the intellectual & moral capacity of absolutely everyone who didn’t vote for his “more established” politician”

Well…it’s easy to deride what you don’t have and don’t understand.

RF

November 8th, 2012
7:13 pm

“congrats you have the smartest radical leftist democrat party led by a redistributionist socialist in the white house who has nationalised car companies, healthcare, student loans and who is in the process of bringing down the capitalist economic system based on what he deems as fairness”

Kam: see what I mean? Right out of the 50’s and just as stupid now as then…doomed to repeat history, I guess.

Skip

November 8th, 2012
7:14 pm

It’s not right that Jay is the only one to know who the sock puppets are.

Mick

November 8th, 2012
7:15 pm

If you truly believe in capitalism, then you would admit obama is inconsequential. Case in point: If you can sell one of your possessions and make a profit, what on god’s green earth does the potus have to do with it? Taxes you say? So what, it’s found money. Same goes for business, would you turn down a sure thing because of who’s president? If so, china might be the place for you – cheap labor…

RF

November 8th, 2012
7:15 pm

@liberal hack 7:11- very, very good post!!! You’d get my vote if you were running! Morality cannot be legislatively forced and that is not the role of government.

Billybob

November 8th, 2012
7:15 pm

rf,
typical democrat who is clueless, nobody wants to keep people from voting and obama did get overwhelming support from people who want the guv’t to give them stuff…..thanks for proving my point……
fyi,
i accept the results, but it doesn’t change the fact that americans elected a socialist who has already practiced central gov’t planning from the white house, someone who has admitted he supports redistribution and someone who is anti-ccapitalist who has traveled this country for 4 years attacking business and the private sector…..enjoy the ramifications of that libs, me thinks you will realize the err of your vote at some time in the future……or either you will just keep blaming bush or someone else that you can convince people that caused the problems coming

F. Sinkwich

November 8th, 2012
7:15 pm

“at a presidential rally obama was actually condoning a performance that ridiculed woman as ho’s and bitches…”

It’s what they do. Nothing is beneath a lib ilk.

They accused Mitt, the ultimate Boy Scout, of causing a women’s cancer and celebrating her subsequent death as simply a price of doing business.

Pathetic.

saywhat?

November 8th, 2012
7:16 pm

For anybody who doesn’t want to read the Kyle Wingfield’s latest effort in its entirety, here is the shorter version:
The election results show that the Republican Party needs to change in only one way. It needs to reach out more to non-white voters, and convince THEM to change.

josef

November 8th, 2012
7:16 pm

Skip

Yeah, true, but it is entertaining to speculate on who’s who…

F. Sinkwich

November 8th, 2012
7:17 pm

I forgot “filky.”

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
7:18 pm

I mean.. .the anger is truly insane. I just rode in listening to Mark Levin on Sirus XM. He makes Boortz look like a choir boy.

Again…THIS is the big problem with the GOP. Please hear me GOPers. Most sane people do not label you a racist simply because you are a Republican/Conservative! The point that we try to make to you is that AS A REPUBLICAN/CONSERVATIVE, YOU SIT IDLY BY WHILE THE BOMBASTIC WHO SPEAK LOUDLY FOR THE GOP/CONSERVATIVE CAUSE (like Limbaugh, Hannity, Boortz, Levin, et al) soak you with propaganda all rolled up in racist context – subtle and not so subtle, THEN you parrot the same to the rest of the sane world. It makes you complicit because you in effect condone the attitude and language. It really is that simple, but you seem to confuse things.

josef

November 8th, 2012
7:18 pm

RF

I was thinking much the same thing…

saywhat?

November 8th, 2012
7:18 pm

“at a presidential rally obama was actually condoning a performance that ridiculed woman as ho’s and bitches…”
___________________________________________________________________________
When did Rush Limbaugh hold a campaign rally for Romney, and why was President Obama there?

liberal hack

November 8th, 2012
7:19 pm

‘preciate that RF! but I don’t think little ole me from Grovetown GA is gonna get elected to President anytime ever….but I sure wish some common sense would come into play when a candidate is picked in the primary……

Mick

November 8th, 2012
7:19 pm

billybob

Thanks for the gracious compliments….yes, I’m proud of chevy, have a silverado, runs great. You know what? I’m glad those jobs were saved. All those employees support their local businesses and everyone gains. If thats the price, america can damn well afford it, we are not just the worlds best killing machine…

RF

November 8th, 2012
7:20 pm

“someone who has admitted he supports redistribution and someone who is anti-ccapitalist”

Oh PLEASE prove that!! It is absolutely ridiculous to accuse him of being anti-capitalist. You’re tooooo funny!!!!

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
7:20 pm

Billybob

Bless your heart. I don’t want anything free, nor do I want anything from you. I’m pretty well capable of working and earning my own way. I’ve been doing that for 22 years now, and I think I have it down pretty well.

As to putting me back in chains, you and any other Republican would stand a much better chance at defeating Mike Tyson in boxing. It’s obvious that very few of y’all conservatives understand what a metaphor is or how to use it. Both campaigns used blatantly dishonest language, but partisans like you only focus on one side and never call out your own for being dishonest.

If it were a Republican in office and an ambassador was killed, the country would have not gone bat shiite crazy with all kinds of conspiracy theories hours after it happened. I recall a few embassies being attacked under George Bush, and I don’t recall all kinds of crap being thrown at him like the crap that was thrown at Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_embassy_attacks

You so-called patriotic Americans are nothing but a joke. A true patriot will fight regardless of the conditions instead of coming here posting that RIP garbage. Maybe this election was God telling you to get your head out of the echo chamber and join the rest of the country. Think about that one for a while. By any stretch of the imagination, Obama should have lost this election. However, he racked up over 300 EV’s when every indicator says he should have been easily beaten.

Billybob

November 8th, 2012
7:21 pm

rf,
everything you copied at 7:13 has been actually done or actually said by obama…….if you choose not to hear it that is your problem, but i choose not to ignore it and all you do is call me stupid which is lib 101…..

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2012
7:22 pm

The election results show that the Republican Party needs to change in only one way. It needs to reach out more to non-white voters, and convince THEM to change.

I suppose they could strap folks to chairs and tape their eyes open and force them to watch and listen to Faux News until they are dumbed down to the level of the average long-term Faux News viewer.

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
7:23 pm

Boortz isn’t crazy. Unless one means crazy like a well-paid welfare king fox.

He is depraved. A disgusting little man who is adored by………………… disgusting little men.

Andy, don’t be coy. You UGA Young Republicans (LOL!) are all pinko obsessed and Commie crazy…

RF

November 8th, 2012
7:24 pm

Ah, I see billybob, make the accusations and then say “but you KNOW it’s true.” No, actually I don’t, as I don’t ascribe to the hive mind dictated by Rush and Hannity. I don’t accept it because they say it’s so. Again, got proof???

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2012
7:24 pm

Republicans prayed and God answered. Accept God’s answer, Republicans.

bob

November 8th, 2012
7:26 pm

Taxpayer, you can bash the right for being bad at math but tell me how we can add a half a million a year to Social Security disability, cut the SS tax, add millions to welfare and pay a one trillion dollar a year debt by raising the tax rate back to that under Clinton that will generate 90 Billion a year ? Something does not add up, can you fill me in ? And will anyone bet me that after in four years the poor will be poorer and the rich will be richer ? Hope and change sounds good on paper but in reality Chicago, a city with no repub influence has 87% of public school children living in poverty ? A recent report was issued that showed that 67% of Chicago pub school cafeterias failed health inspections. Chicago, like many other democrat hotbeds graduate half of it’s public school students. The left can whine but the above statement is true, in four years, the poor will be poorer, the rich will be richer and the country will have more debt and the left will blame repubs and the Bush tax cuts. By the way, why does Obama bash the rich for not paying their fair share but campaigns with Bruce Springstein, a one percenter that takes tax breaks put in place for farmers, isn’t that the kind of greed we do not like or is it okay when a lberal does it ?

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
7:26 pm

The Obama Crash in the stock market continues; any young American who voted for Obama deserves the reprecussions they will receive as a result of their decision. A truly sad turn of events for this once proud Republic…..

Obama won, now what?

November 8th, 2012
7:26 pm

We on this blog should be so happy that we live in the great state of Ga. The only way it can get better is that we wouldn’t have state taxes. General Assembly is close to a “super majority” with an independent today planning to move to the Republican side.

As we all know, politics is really at the state level. Whether Obama or Romney, they are just figure heads. The Fed Gov should really be out of lives except for protection from Islamic nut cases!

josef

November 8th, 2012
7:27 pm

TAXI

@ 7:24

Well, there is that…

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2012
7:27 pm

Mitt who. Are y’all talking about the tax cheat Mitt Romney again. He’s such a loser.

RF

November 8th, 2012
7:28 pm

billybob: didn’t call you stupid, I called the wording of that post, a la Sen. McCarthy stupid…and WAY outdated. I think you are actually at least fairly educated. Deluded by partisan politics perhaps, but I frankly don’t know that much about you. You’re allowed your point of view, but if you’re going to throw “socialist, communist, and anti-captialist” into the discussion, you’re gonna have to take the heat for it on an obviously fairly liberal blog. HELLLLLOOOOO.

Obama won, now what?

November 8th, 2012
7:29 pm

Taxpayer, you are funny with that religious reference!

So does that mean Dems prayed to Allah and he answered?

liberal hack

November 8th, 2012
7:29 pm

billy bob may be talking about this….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge3aGJfDSg4

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2012
7:30 pm

The DOW is down about six percent from its high. You folks need to get serious with the panic selling so I can get some more good deals. This sell off of the last two days is pitiful. That Corzine fella caused a much better buying opportunity that this.

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
7:31 pm

BTW Jaybo, you are dead wrong about O’Reilly’s statements, he was spot on….

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
7:31 pm

“So does that mean Dems prayed to Allah and he answered?”

You do know that “allah” just means “god” don’t you? And remember God ALWAYS answers prayers.

But the answer it not always yes.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 8th, 2012
7:31 pm

Well, on the way home I blew a kiss at a couple Mexicans and one of Those People. So I done my part to get the Republican party back on track. I just hope nobody thinks I’m Gay. There’s some things nobody should be asked to do to win the next election.

Karl Rove: Obama Won 'By Suppressing The Vote'

November 8th, 2012
7:33 pm

Mitt Romney lost the election because President Barack Obama engaged in voter suppression, according to Republican political strategist Karl Rove.

“He succeeded by suppressing the vote,” Rove said in an interview on Fox News with anchor Megyn Kelly on Thursday afternoon, “by saying to people, ‘You may not like who I am and I know you can’t bring yourself to vote for me, but I’m going to paint this other guy as simply a rich guy who only cares about himself.’”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/karl-rove-obama-suppressing-vote_n_2094459.html

RF

November 8th, 2012
7:34 pm

“There’s some things nobody should be asked to do to win the next election”

:-) :-) :-)

well, you know what they say….once you go gay, you stay… and have a much better sense of fashion and throw some wonderful parties.

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
7:34 pm

Taxpayer….I plan to take advantage of the Obama reality reaction in the market, war on business for another for years but with that will come numerous equity opportunities…

Mick

November 8th, 2012
7:34 pm

Once upon a time, america’s top tax rate for millionaires was 90%. It was the 50’s and 60’s, I lived there and the wealth was redistributed magnificently. Never heard much complaints about taxes, just a war nobody understood or wanted…

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
7:35 pm

Dichotomy: The most ardent pro-lifers could present the argument that their stance actually promotes bringing more “minorities” into the world.

-However-

Once said minority is IN the world, their chances of being in the “taker”/”moocher”/”parasite”/”non-producer” class is much greater than their not being. We know the pro-lifer do not desire “wealth redistribution”. Thus, they have to suffer the ridicule (and wrath) of the larger society, specifically lack of education and the ever powerful draw of the MILITARY AND PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEXES. Gotta keep the prisons full and the warriors on the front lines!

So then… a critical thinker is somewhat obligated to juxtapose that against the fact that these same individuals and groups just SO HAPPEN to be the same whose demographic numbers are dwindling. Is it far fetched to believe that the reason “minority” abortions are documented more because they are more likely to obtain the service through publicly funded medical establishments rather than private ones? Does outlawing abortion FORCE more women in the “majority” demographic who are more likely to have them done through PRIVATE entities to bear their children and keep the numbers up? Just points to ponder…

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
7:36 pm

@Karl Rove: Obama Won ‘By Suppressing The Vote’
November 8th, 2012
7:33 pm

I heard those clips on the radio. HIlarious!

TaxPayer

November 8th, 2012
7:37 pm

So does that mean Dems prayed to Allah and he answered?

I don’t know. The Dems have not been so vocal regarding their beliefs about God and Obama as Republicans have been. If you would like to share videos, we could go from there.

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
7:37 pm

Mick….a different time and a different place which is no longer applicable

Georgia

November 8th, 2012
7:39 pm

Romney was a lousy candidate. All he had was Debate1. and who was cutting his hair? . He looked a little like Alfalfa, didn’t he? Think about it. There was an Alfalfa factor in the election.

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
7:41 pm

“Mick….a different time and a different place which is no longer applicable”

but I thought the Republicans want to take our country back

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
7:42 pm

This needs to be said.

3 MILLION CONSERVATIVES STAYED HOME BECAUSE THEY DECIDED THEIR PRINCIPLES WERE MORE IMPORTANT THAN DEFEATING OBAMA.

THEY RECOGNIZED MITT ROMNEY AS THE PHONY THAT HE IS.

It became obvious to me when so-called Evangelical church leaders starting pushing for this man EVEN THOUGH their religious beliefs deems his religion a CULT (and I am not saying I personally view his religion in this manner because I don’t).

As the old grannies used to say back in the day: “Somethin’ in the milk ain’t clean!”

Mick

November 8th, 2012
7:43 pm

**a different time and a different place which is no longer applicable**

Why not? Who’s asking to go back to 90%? We’re asking for four points and the republicans are all aghast, still. Your guy lost and the one who wanted the increase won – the majority of americans say – pay up…

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
7:43 pm

Yes…let’s elect a president on coolness, geez we are so doomed as a society

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
7:47 pm

billiebobbi is full.

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
7:47 pm

“geez we are so doomed as a society”

I agree. This election has helped make it clear that the society YOU would like to have IS doomed.

RF

November 8th, 2012
7:48 pm

“Yes…let’s elect a president on coolness, geez we are so doomed as a society”

vs. what, electing a president who flips, flops, and says whatever will get him a vote? A man who can’t even articulate a sensible tax plan, a man who can’t even remember what he’s said “I don’t remember what I said, but whatever it was, I stand behind it…”, a man who believes 47% of the electorate are moochers (including active servicemen and women), a man who espouses “self-deportation”, a man who would sign a personhood amendment, a man who railed against the Affordable Care Act while having created the very plan on which it was modeled? Yeah, that’s a way to elect a president. I’ll stick with “cool”….

bob

November 8th, 2012
7:49 pm

Mick, you are clueless. The rate was high but the deductions were higher. Any rich guy with a good accountant did not pay those rates. In the late sixties congress held hearings that showed the wealthiest sometimes paid zero in taxes, let alone the 90% you mention. If you can, tell me why congress passed the alternative minimum tax ? They did it because the rich didn’t pay the 90%, if they did then we would not have needed a new tax law. And if redistribution was so magnificent then why did we have things like the Watts riots ? Why did Johnson start welfare if redistribution was so magnificent in the fifties and sixties ? Why was poverty so rampant that we needed a war on poverty ? Were those poor people that lived in squalor under democrat rule rioting because of the magnificent redistribution of wealth ? You were right about the wars nobody wanted, democrats gave us a war in Korea that we are still paying for on a credit card and the war in Vietnam paid for with the now extinct Social Security trust fund.

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
7:50 pm

Reasonable people can come to reasonable conclusions under reasonable conditions, unless you support republicans .

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
7:50 pm

“a man who espouses “self-deportation”"

Which was originated as a JOKE, by a comedian

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
7:51 pm

I do not have a fundamental problem with the increase, I do have a problem with where the additional funds will go. The tax increases that will be forthcoming now that Obamacare is here to stay will make for a very shakey 2013 but then again the country will get what it deserves. The debt will double over the next four years and we will soon be Greece Jr…..a very sad time for our once great Republic

liberal hack

November 8th, 2012
7:52 pm

Mick, when the tax rates were that high in the 50’s, there were upteen hundred more deductions you could take, a millionaire never had an effective rate of 90% when it was all said and done…..

that little bit on it’s just four percent, look at it this way…if a small business made 500,000 in total revenue and had to pay 4% more that total would be an extra 20,000 to the federal gov’t….that 20,000 could have gone into savings to potentially be used to grow his business or he could’ve used it to give raises to his employees, instead you want it to go to the federal gov’t which really doesn’t know how to spend wisely…. just a different perspective to think about….

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
7:53 pm

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
7:54 pm

RF….you richly deserve everything coming your way….good luck

Jefferson

November 8th, 2012
7:56 pm

You want fair taxes, well let’s have fair income while we’re at it.

indigo

November 8th, 2012
7:56 pm

josef – 6:43

Logic and reason do NOT rest either on Christian or any other religious faith.

pete

November 8th, 2012
7:57 pm

Hmmm…more than 2 weeks now, and still have folks in the northeast without power and heat.

But…but…but…George Bush blah blah blah.

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
7:58 pm

Forget Morphin’ Mitt and Lyin’ Ryan.

I told you Republirubes many months ago that based on that second straight laughable slate of losers, that whoever won the GOP’s nomination was going to be just another footnote in Barry’s biography.

It was the overall decimation of the lunatic fringe that was most satisfying.

Top five reasons to celebrate this election:

1) Joseph McCarthy’s insane nephew, Alan West got kicked to the curb in Florida.

2) The deadbeat dad from Illinois lost to the first female combat veteran ever elected to the US Congress! Go Tammy Duckworth!!!

3) A second female combat veteran – Tulsi Gabbard – made history when she shocked the Hawaiian political establishment and won election to the US Congress!!!

4) That miserable moron from Missouri – Todd Akin – was politically raped and sent home.

5) His loutish pal in Indiana – Richard Mourdock suffered a similar fate for a similar insane position.

Rock on, America!

We kicked the Uncle Sam haters right in the balls!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZQwKVspiMA

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
7:58 pm

Yes…let’s elect a president on coolness

Yawn.

No different than people voting for a man because he is someone that they could have a beer with.

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
7:59 pm

“Logic and reason do NOT rest either on Christian or any other religious faith”

Not all faith is religious

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
7:59 pm

But…but…but…George Bush Jimmy Carter blah blah blah.

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
8:00 pm

Jammie, just like RF, you deserve evrything coming your way..

josef

November 8th, 2012
8:00 pm

Okay, just remember, a song will help you along the way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TDqvD34hEA

Rockerbabe

November 8th, 2012
8:01 pm

I did something today, I haven’t done in quite awhile. I attempted to listen to Boortz and Hannity for a short while as I was driving from one clinic to another. Their pity party was just too much to take and I had to turn to another station after about 15 minutes. They were using all of the same comments about takers and makers, etc. The very same verbage that turned so many voters off this election season. What a shame; the GOP could be part of a great reniassance in this country, but they just refuse to let others help with making the future brighter for everyone.

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
8:02 pm

Jefferson….fair income??? WTF does that mean, you just sound like the 50% of the New Entitlement States of America…

RF

November 8th, 2012
8:02 pm

“Hmmm…more than 2 weeks now, and still have folks in the northeast without power and heat.

But…but…but…George Bush blah blah blah”

Help me out here: who was it who took nearly a week to even fly over the impact zone much less acknowledge that people were dying as he flew over? How many YEARS were some people without even a house to return to because insurance companies refused to pay while the president remained silent?

Oh and wasn’t it a Republican governor who got slammed by his own party for complimenting Obama for his fast response and desire to help? Obama….blah, blah, blah….

LOSE BABY LOSE!!!

November 8th, 2012
8:02 pm

Way to alienate most of the country. Hard to win an election when you badmouth the electorate.

Quedawg12

November 8th, 2012
8:03 pm

If Rmoney could have told me, in the plan he never discussed, how to pay 14% taxes on over 42 million (After making millions of deductable donations) He would have gotten my vote!!!!!

BTW I paid 28% on way less money!

guy

November 8th, 2012
8:04 pm

You can argue about gays,lesbians,and abortion all you want but you can’t legalize sin.Also,a good % of those on government freebies,regardless of color,are succeding at stealing this government blind.That will end in a blaze and it will be a huge wakeup call.Our political leaders in both parties have done nothing but encourage people that the government can fix all. Ain’t no way!!!!!

josef

November 8th, 2012
8:05 pm

DOGGONE

“Not all faith is religious”

Which seems to be a stumbling block for those who asked G-d for a bicycle, didn’t get one, and have been pissed ever since… :-)

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
8:06 pm

Kammie….there is a gerbil tax in Obamacare, you may go broke….yawn

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
8:07 pm

Jam

St Simons had a funny line earlier today that I thought couldn’t be topped as the funniest line of the day…………. but than I read this one.

“Realist, just settle on the perfect name and stick with it.

Maybe “Coward of the County”? LOL.”

:-)

___________________________________

Dedicate to Thurston Howell and Eddie Monster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8KR-n2fBQ

RF

November 8th, 2012
8:07 pm

“You can argue about gays,lesbians,and abortion all you want but you can’t legalize sin”

Since when was it government’s place to judge “sin”? Well, since the Old Testament anyway….. few thousand years at least, depending on how old you believe Earth is…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
8:07 pm

Hello, princess.

Whatsamatta?

Ashamed of that particular sock-puppet?

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
8:09 pm

Gerbil Tax for Precious

pete

November 8th, 2012
8:09 pm

RF,

Check your history before shooting off. Bush OFFERED the full services of the govt to New Orleans, but Ray Nagan refused it.

Of course you will not believe that.

Let me save you the few remaining brain cells you have left and respond for you;

But…but…but…George Bush blah blah blah.

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
8:10 pm

“You can argue about gays,lesbians,and abortion all you want but you can’t legalize sin”

Sure you can. What YOU define as “sin” doesn’t neccessarily mean EVERYONE defines sin the same way.

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
8:10 pm

You bet you sweet ass I do, Get Bent!

You go on hating America. You go on feeling oh so sorry for yourself, your pathetic political party and your ideology of yesteryear.

And go on feeling oh so superior to the rest of us while you’re at it.

Me? I’m gonna keep on rocking my world, my family and my friends!

I’m gonna keep on giving my time and money to fellow veterans. And to children. And yes, occasionally even to the bum standing there with a cardboard sign.

You can do whatever the hell you want to.

I love this country. The land that has given me everything I have!

And I love my life…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgpBFboxLmQ

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
8:11 pm

“Which seems to be a stumbling block for those who asked G-d for a bicycle, didn’t get one, and have been pissed ever since”

Speaking of praying for a bicycle…have you heard about the kid who prayed for a bike and didn’t get one. So he prayed again and again and again, and still didn’t get one. So he stole one…and prayed for forgiveness!

josef

November 8th, 2012
8:12 pm

pete

Great job, Brownie…

DannyX

November 8th, 2012
8:12 pm

“You can argue about gays,lesbians,and abortion all you want but you can’t legalize sin”

No fault divorce has been legal for years.

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
8:13 pm

I love this country Jammie Poo, but you keep living in Fairy Land, the hard reality is not to far away. Again good luck to you….

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
8:15 pm

Krystal, people didn’t vote because there were no decent candidates. Do you want arsenic or strichnine?

josef

November 8th, 2012
8:16 pm

DOGGONE

:-)

One of my favs…the woman was hungry and had no bread to feed her children. She was on her knees asking G-d to send her bread. Two little heathen younguns saw her through the window. They climbed up on the roof and threw some bread down. The woman began a prayer of thanks. The younguns yelled through the window, “The L-rd didn’t do that. We threw it down the chimney.” She answered, “the devil may’ve brought it, but the L-rd sent it.” :-)

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
8:16 pm

RF – people with flood insurance didn’t get their claims paid?

guy

November 8th, 2012
8:17 pm

RF God gave us His plan to try and live by.It is not our place to try and over rule His laws.That’s just my humble opinion.We humans have a way of trying to make things the way we want them to be.That way we are in control.Ain’t no way in the end!

josef

November 8th, 2012
8:17 pm

DANNY

And you can now buy the devil’s brew on Sunday…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
8:18 pm

Krystal, people didn’t vote because there were no decent candidates.

If only there was a process to select a candidate prior to an election….

We could call this a “primary” election.

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
8:19 pm

Josef – I like that one too!

josef

November 8th, 2012
8:19 pm

guy

“We humans have a way of trying to make things the way we want them to be.”

With all due respect, including G-d.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

November 8th, 2012
8:20 pm

Look, you liberals prevailed, but face it, Bill OReilly was exzactly right with what he said! Twist it all you want but that is now the face of America. There is more takers than payers and it will only continue to grow. That is life and we just have to accept it!

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
8:20 pm

Jam

St Simons killer post earlier today

;-)

_____________________________

St Simons – he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
1:19 pm

Nero, you can only miss 7 days of school this year in Ga.

make this one count dude

unless you go to one of those jaysus-rode-the-dinosaur-for-profit-skools.

nobodyyouknow

November 8th, 2012
8:20 pm

Oh HELL yea. I,m 73 years old and getting my “free stuff”. So. Sec. I paid into since I was 18 years old. Medicare that you and all you Libs, pay into. I,m gonna apply for food stamps. I,m quailified. You know JAY I worked many years and paid off my house, auto loan. Its an 04 with 2 hundred thousand miles on it. My wife and I raised 4 kids and they’re out on their on now. Working 2 jobs mostly. To pay for their homes and other expenses. I,ve advised them to try to get on every gov. program they can. The thing I just don’t understand is how these big fat women in these gettos with 5 children and no husband that are so poor are so damn FAT. I’m not against helping people that need help but there are just too damn many that are taking advantage of these programs. So as I said I,ve told my grown kids get what you can. Hell everybody else is doing it. America is trillions in debt but who cares. Gimmie my STUFF.

Midori

November 8th, 2012
8:21 pm

If only there was a process to select a candidate prior to an election….

We could call this a “primary” election.

:lol:

:lol:

:lol:

:lol:

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
8:21 pm

“RF God gave us His plan to try and live by”

This is a secular nation. You are at perfect liberty to live by the rules your god gave you. You are not at liberty to impose them on others who don’t share your beliefs.

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
8:21 pm

I love this country Jammie Poo…

Wow, not very convincing.

But, whatever.

Fantastic H&O song BOTH.

Back at ya…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZURwQ_wME

pete

November 8th, 2012
8:22 pm

Obama was given 4 years to fix the problems, 2 years with the full support of a house and senate. He did squat, in fact, it got worse. Now, he has been re-elected and has inherited his own mess. Serves him right. He made the mess, he can clean it up. And now I am seeing comments from folks that the republicans need to work with Obama to correct Obama’s problems. Bi-partisanship works both ways. You NEVER worked with Republicans in your first term. After 4 years, there is still no budget, thanks to Harry Reid. Dems had a filibuster-proof senate the first 2 years, and still couldn’t pass a budget.

If the dems do not fix what ails DC in the next 4 years, it could be the end of this country as we know it.

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
8:22 pm

“There is more takers than payers ”

Well, according to Romney the “takers” are 47%. Last time I took math 47% was less than 53%

guy

November 8th, 2012
8:22 pm

Doggone/GA We all need to read God’s word,if we believe God is not a liar,and see what sin is.

Tundra Dude

November 8th, 2012
8:23 pm

cons think America dies this year.

Some been sayin’ that for 4 years.
Bush the Incompetent Engineer crashed the train.
The cons would have us believe it was just a little fender bender….

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
8:23 pm

“2 years with the full support of a house and senate.”

When you have to lie to make your point, you have no point

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
8:24 pm

I don’t recall any decent primary candidates either.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
8:24 pm

get real talks about reality but ignores it like the cons ignore the real moochers getting trillions.

Don’t change a thing cons.

Stay the course.

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
8:24 pm

“Doggone/GA We all need to read God’s word,if we believe God is not a liar,and see what sin is”

Again, not everyone believes in the same God you do.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
8:24 pm

pete

Forget the fiscal cliff, please don’t jump off a real cliff.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
8:24 pm

Hiya, Midori! :wink:

RF

November 8th, 2012
8:25 pm

“RF God gave us His plan to try and live by.It is not our place to try and over rule His laws”

Seems you guys are pretty good at cherry-picking them as you wish. The manipulation of religion for political gain goes WAY back. History and even current life is rife with examples of tyrannical governments that have and do use religion to control and keep people in fear. Based on some of the ridiculousness put forth just by a few US Senate candidates in recent months, one would be inclined to think that the Republican party is trying to use religion now as a means of manipulation and for controlling via fear the general populace of this country. But we wouldn’t call that “radical” would we?

Moon Mullins

November 8th, 2012
8:25 pm

These ol’ boys are convinced that if they had a candidate that was more conservative they’d have won in a landslide. Everything else is A-OK — they just need a 99 44/100 % pure conservative to win in 2016,

And, I hope they continue to affirm this erroneous assumption as it will assure continual Democrat occupancy of the White House.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
8:25 pm

Midori

Greetings. Hope you found the election to your liking and you are doing well.

:-)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
8:25 pm

I don’t recall any decent primary candidates either.

There’s your sign.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
8:26 pm

pete bought all rw media lies.

If you have to listen to bill oreilly to tell you what to think, politics is over your head.

Mick

November 8th, 2012
8:28 pm

bob & liberal hack

I am well aware that accountants knew how to work the tax code but….16 trillion, don’t you all keep reminding us? All I’m saying those four points then should be dedicated to deficit reduction, then, exactly what you espouse cuts and eliminate fraud. Set a realistic goal of ten years and stick to our guns, it’s doable…

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
8:28 pm

If only there was a process to select a candidate prior to an election….

We could call this a “primary” election.

After the play ended, we have an infraction. Unsportsmanlike Conduct. Unnecessary roughness. 15 yard penalty from the spot of the infraction. Automatic first down!!!

:lol: :lol:

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
8:29 pm

“I don’t recall any decent primary candidates either.

There’s your sign.”

I’m sorry, what sign? What do signs have to do with any of this?

Right is Might

November 8th, 2012
8:30 pm

$uck it rats. Face it, we make more money than you, we own the executive level of most of America’s manufacturing firms, we live in zipcodes with the highest standard of living. It matters not who the president is, the conservatives (lying white men by your stereotypes) still run and control what matters – the wealth in this country. Time to stop celebrating and get back to your pitiful insignificant lives –

93% – suckers

Tundra Dude

November 8th, 2012
8:31 pm

“Not all faith is religious”

Which seems to be a stumbling block for those who asked G-d for a bicycle, didn’t get one, and have been pissed ever since

I resemble that remark.
If it were up to me, there’d be Separation of God from Blogs.

josef

November 8th, 2012
8:31 pm

guy

“We all need to read God’s word,if we believe God is not a liar,and see what sin is.”

Which of H-s words. What we in the West would call the Bible? And if so, which version? Which translation? Which language? Whose interpretation?

MIDORI

Hey, old woman! :-)

getalife

November 8th, 2012
8:31 pm

right slobbers on the wealthy.

Sad.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
8:31 pm

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
8:32 pm

…it could be the end of this country as we know it.

You can always hope, pete.

I’m gonna do my part to keep her a light of the world. That city that is set upon a hill and cannot be hidden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yrT0DpvfVI

getalife

November 8th, 2012
8:33 pm

“Separation of God from Blogs.”

I second that motion.

josef

November 8th, 2012
8:33 pm

RF

Jay calls it the “get out of Leviticus free card!” The best and most succinct line I’ve ever heard for that cherry picking!

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
8:34 pm

Midori! How are you these days? I don’t generally speak for others here but we’ve missed ya!

Midori

November 8th, 2012
8:35 pm

Kammy!! :)

Both!! :)

Getalife!! :)

Josef!! :)

I’m having SOOOOOOOOO much fun watching the wingnuts slash their throats.

LMAO :lol:

josef

November 8th, 2012
8:35 pm

TUNDRA…

Separation of G-d from the blog? And deny H-m his fun? :-)

Jack ®

November 8th, 2012
8:35 pm

Dow down another 120 points today. Doggone that Bush.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
8:35 pm

I’ve never been drunk in my whole life. Ahm syure I aint az smart az yoo, but nun of mah techerz or collidge perfessors thunk i wuz that stoopid. I will own up to the fat part (not morbidly obese though). I jes aint smart enuff to understan yur zingy replize.

pete

November 8th, 2012
8:36 pm

Wise azz replies, but you still can’t argue the facts.

This is your economy now, you guys ruined it and now you can fix it. The democratic party is not interested in bi-partisanship. GWB has been gone for 4 years now, and you still blame him. I guess you will blame him in 8 years from now as well.

Rome is burning and you are pouring gas on it.

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
8:36 pm

I don’t agree with O’Reilly. He’s partially correct when he says that there’s a sizable segment of the population who’re content to just survive by free loading on the government and Democrats certainly welcome them aboard. Far more of a majority are those who truly want to succeed and live the American dream, which is certainly in a serious holding pattern but is none the less regainable. Obama did not win a mandate and he’s not a popular president, the libs are kidding themselves if they really believe he holds America’s confidence. The true witching hour of the deficit is coming up soon and it will be on Obama’s watch. You can bet that as much as he wanted to be reelected the deficit and its potentially serious ramifications will be a challenge this president who won’t be able to find a way to dance around and divert blame. This will be all on him and his leadership or lack thereof will be the defining metric of his presidency.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
8:36 pm

“we make more money than you,”

Based on that post, Home Depot cashier is an honorable job. Please continue to work hard, so you can get promoted one day.

You can do it. Stay in school and out of trouble.

Archibald Leach

November 8th, 2012
8:36 pm

i now know what the tea party/republicans mean when they say “we want to take our country back.” They want to take us back to the 1950s, minus the tax rates of course

josef

November 8th, 2012
8:37 pm

MIDORI

I’ve been having the time of my life… They’ve moved from the sixth to the fifth circle of Dante’s Inferno…so there IS progress for them, too! :-)

Midori

November 8th, 2012
8:38 pm

sorry Jamvet — didn’t mean to leave you out of my greetings message :)

Steve-USA

November 8th, 2012
8:39 pm

JamVet-

If you like Todd Rundgren check out the two sessions he did in The “Daryl’s house” series. Here is a sample:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pLTD23l468

The Daryl Hall recording with a variety of top notch talent is amazing and a recent discovery for me. Check out the archives:

http://www.livefromdarylshouse.com/

getalife

November 8th, 2012
8:39 pm

It is awesome Midori :)

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
8:39 pm

“They want to take us back to the 1950s”

Or the 1850’s

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
8:40 pm

@Nunna Yobinnes
November 8th, 2012
8:15 pm

THE “people” DID VOTE, I being ONE of THEM.

3 MILLION CONS didn’t (at least that’s the EXCUSE being floated) LMAO

“you want arsenic or strichnine?”

Nah…I think I’ll pass on each of the poisons you offered. Don’t need it, MY GUY WON!

Have at it oh miserable one.

Midori

November 8th, 2012
8:40 pm

this “pete” fella seems kinda perturbed.

that really must suck.

angry AND fact free?

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
8:40 pm

Jm

What are they saying down there in south FL?

Will your FL and GA for Romney prediction hold. You made that bold GA pick. Keep your fingers crossed for FL.

:-)

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
8:41 pm

Midori

I’m sure “pete” has been here numerous times. He must be using his middle name tonight.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
8:42 pm

Steve

Jam knows about those sessions. He told me about them awhile back.

They are awesome.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
8:43 pm

del,

Who gets free stuff from the gop?

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
8:44 pm

Krystal it’s not good when you play dumb. The “arsenic or strichnine” obviously referred to the poor choices we had to select from in this fine election. (Here I’ll dumb it down for you…neither candidate was too appealing.)

Steve-USA

November 8th, 2012
8:45 pm

BOTH,

Just incredible live music with a collection of varied artists. I am only half way through the archives.

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
8:47 pm

get, I’m terribly sorry but soon the signs get your free stuff here will all be coming down.

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
8:47 pm

@Right is Might
November 8th, 2012
8:30 pm

Eeeevry now and then if pushed hard enough, the devil will yield his horns. I guess RIM thinks he’s telling us something we don’t already now. This is the VERY thing I spoke of as it relates to the whole majority/minority/pluralism thing earlier. They call us whiners, racists and everything else when we tell them that we know and clearly recognize the structure of things. Of course this is why we the PEOPLE will never tire in our fight. They tell us we should not believe our lying eyes, to quote Pres. Bill Clinton.

I guess it’s like drinking too much liquor; anger can become TRUTH SERUM.

Sure, double down on conservative crap

November 8th, 2012
8:47 pm

I watched Carl Rove’s mathematical breakdown Tuesday night live on FOX news. Obama had just been declared the winner, even by a very depressed FOX news, and Rove was frantically crunching the numbers in disbelief. “No Megan! It is too early, Romney is going to win Ohio. (pushing buttons on a calculator). They even made Megan walking around to a fact checking booth in FOX (Now that was almost the biggest headline of the night, that FOX has a fact checking booth) to check Carl’s math, which they declared as 99.95% BS. And Megan says…….”Are you sure about this is not Republican math to make you feel better”

Now there was a truthful moment……….Republican Math That Makes You Feel Better. Yep……And so O’Reilly is using “Republican Explanations That Make You Feel Better” You are the real American, the better man who has morals. Never mind the “free” stuff you get off the government. SSI and Medicare, the two biggest entitlement programs ever. You are superior, even if it is just “Republican Speak To Make You Feel Better”

I really feel I have shown great restraint in not rubbing the loss in to the faces of the people who are posting “Pray for our country” ominous and ambiguous short blurbs on Facebook. As if the entire country is now going to implode at any minute. Relax preppers, you can still hoard bullets and chips in your basement. Get more if it makes you feel better, stimulate the economy. Meanwhile the normal sane people will go about the business of moving forward. Poor John Boehner, he needs to watch more FOX to make him feel better. Cheer up! Rub on tanner will be on sale soon!

getalife

November 8th, 2012
8:47 pm

peter,

The sky is not falling and you need to see the doctor.

We lost a decade of growth because of the w disaster.

We will keep moving forward and fully recover.

You need meds pete.

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
8:47 pm

I wants my free stuff.

alex

November 8th, 2012
8:47 pm

let’s see we’ve got the following collage:jammy poo, gerbil tax,sock-puppet and wingnuts slash their throats-man this is impressive, a bunch of adolescent narcissistic , self impressed fools, get back to work to improve your house, your family and your country. The gloating is over you pathetic chidden of the past……
,.

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
8:48 pm

This is your economy now, you guys ruined it and now you can fix it.

Are you 10 years old?

The economy has been a train wreck for a long, long time.

But only for the bottom 80% of us.

Wake up and crack a few books.

Start with reading Lewis Powell’s 1971 Confidential Memorandum” titled “Attack on the American Free Enterprise System.” It’s a doozy. In which the Chamber of Commerce and others advocated for “constant surveillance” of textbook and television content, as well as a purge of left-wing elements. And it includes all of the juicy precursors to the despicable Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission ruling recently.

Then move up to 1978 when management outspent labor three to one to make it harder to join labor unions.

Then onto Ronnie in 1983 and his Economic Recovery Act in which Social Security taxes were jacked up to the point where payroll taxes made up 70% of income tax revenues.

Then onto the 90’s when Phil Graham and Bill Clinton among others, unleashed the banksters and the Titans of Criminal Negligence and Malfeasance.

And of course, the worst of the worst of the worst, the Bush administration.

Your lack of knowledge about history and your obsession with the past few years as “the reason” for our economic woes is typical of neocon ignorance…

alex

November 8th, 2012
8:48 pm

getalife

November 8th, 2012
8:50 pm

del,

I get free apps for my Obama phone.

Krystal'sBalls

November 8th, 2012
8:50 pm

Well @Nunna Yobinnes

You should be more clear in your expression. Furthermore, I will reiterate MY GUY WON. I am perfectly fine with him as a leader, statesman, etc. It is you who have the problem with it. Oh you put on a great act as you swing back and forth with the whole “admission” thing *nudge, nudge*. That was a hoot. Even behind a computer one’s substance can become obvious to even the most casual observer.

bob

November 8th, 2012
8:50 pm

Mick, why are you not defending your 90% tax rates that made redistribution magnificent ? Have you ever heard of the alternative minimum tax ? And can you comment on why we needed welfare and why those living in poverty rioted if you were correct about the magnificent redistribution of the 50’s and 60’s ?
It seems you are running from the jest of your original post. Midori, the poor will be poorer in four years and will have less ability to climb out of poverty, but you can make jokes about the wingnuts all you want. They won’t be the ones with their hands out hoping for some change.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
8:51 pm

The gloating is over you pathetic chidden[sic] of the past……

Oh, the irony.

Travis McGee

November 8th, 2012
8:52 pm

Romney wrote off 47% as unworthy. . . .alienated hispanics with extreme immigration proposals. . . .discounted blacks with bigoted and condescending remarks. . . .worried the working class with Bain history of ravaging and pillaging companies and talk about bankrupting the automobile industry. . . .puzzled the middle class with a lack of disclosure of tax returns and reports of huge cash stashes in secret Swiss bank accounts and tax havens. . . .scared the hell out of seniors with social security reforms. . . .confused even his most avid followers by hop scotching all over the map on key issues. . . .mystified the world with militant rhetoric. . . .insulted our allies with mindnumbing comments. . . .hell, there aren’t enough people left that Romney hasn’t pissed-off, alienated,discounted, worried, puzzled, scared, confused, mystified, and insulted to win the election.

And the Republican/Tea Party was so disconnected from the mood of the American People that they were surprised with the results. Talk about having one’s head up their arse!

And, so it goes. . . .it’ll be interested to see if they learn or insist on repeating. My guess is they’ll repeat. . . .because they think they’re the smartest person in the room!

guy

November 8th, 2012
8:53 pm

josef is a liberal smartass!He can kiss mine and I can’t.Therefore,he does have that advantage over me!

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
8:53 pm

Keep speaking in riddles Krystal. “Admission” thing?

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
8:53 pm

alex. your misery is obvious.

Thanks for sharing it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvWj18LeU1g

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
8:54 pm

“I get free apps for my Obama phone.”

I just heard on TV that you can get a free dose of Cymbalta

pete

November 8th, 2012
8:54 pm

Recon 0311 2533

I enjoy reading you posts because you and I think alike. While I do not parrot what Bill O’Reilly says, and am not a fan of his style of debate, he said something the other night that made me take notice. He said that if Obama does not start at least listen to some Republicans and work with them, the democratic party will be toast for a long, long time. If in 2016 the unemployment rate is in double digits like some economists believe it will be, it will not be good for the dem party. I still can’t belive that 51% of folks have no problem with 8% unemployment.

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
8:54 pm

Let the pathetic libs enjoy a false victory. Reality is just around the corner.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
8:55 pm

Gerbils?

That sounds familiar.

Sure,

The rove meltdown was epic and they went to the decision room to tell rove he was dead wrong as usual.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
8:56 pm

del,

Reality?

Tell us your reality del.

What will happen in his second term.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
8:58 pm

What will happen in his second term.

We will make everybody get gay married and then force ‘em all to get abortions.

Sure, double down on conservative crap

November 8th, 2012
9:00 pm

HHHHHHmmmmm……lots of “Republican Excuses to make me feel better” here. PLEASE keep it up, it ensures your party being completely irrelevant for years to come. As the old white guys die out you will shrink and shrink as a party.

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
9:00 pm

get-a-douche, I do not ignore anything. I was raised with a strong work ethic and have done all the right things and as a result have been reasonable successful by most people’s definition. What I now see in this country is a large percentage of people (X%, fill in the number) that feel they are owed something from this country simnply because they are citizens…thus the entitlement society. If it goes unchecked, it will unfortunately be our downfall..all you have to do is look across the pond to see our future….what a shame

getalife

November 8th, 2012
9:01 pm

“We will make everybody get gay married and then force ‘em all to get abortions.”

We will send a free check to everybody like w.

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
9:02 pm

pete, thanks…you’re absolutely correct if Obama doesn’t understand the precarious economic position we’re in and refuses to get serious about doing his job for the American people, we’re all in trouble. The sheep on this blog don’t understand the consequence of our looming deficit crises. They would rather wallow like pigs in their own defecation believing they’ve won a victory.

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
9:03 pm

Bill “I was in a firefight” O’Reilly has been a lying dipsh*t for a long time.

Why would this election change that?

Hell, the man must be thrilled with what happened this week. For him and the other repulsive talking heads that fellate the GOP machinery, this humiliating loss by the neocons is GREAT news!

His ratings are assured as long as there are plenty of lonely old white guys who love their political porn…

getalife

November 8th, 2012
9:04 pm

get real,

My name is getalife .

I agree big oil, defense contractors, the banks and other corporations need to stop mooching.

It costs trillions.

alex

November 8th, 2012
9:07 pm

@Jamvet, it is good to read , but your library of paranoia is, as above, pathetic, there’s plenty of fault to go around, mention your boy B. Frank, and how about that lovely x-senator from Conn. pushing subprimes and now you’ve got a “built up’ Clayton co. You’ve got the great Cali brokers and the Texas boys, wonderful Americans-all. You’ve got the great guys at goldman sacks who bet against their own customers and that great “short”, BS-it was fixed and yet it’s all about the neocons, get off it man, NO good players here, cut the ignorant crap, some of your sycophants may actually believe you and that helps no one . So when did Clinton become a neocon.. Rubbish. This kind of crap has been going on since the dutch tulip days and it WILL happen again. Get off the self-righteous , self absorbed “platform “of a laptop..

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
9:07 pm

The inmates are now offically in charge of the asylum…God help us all

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
9:07 pm

Is it true that Rove attributed Obama’s win to “an act of God” (Sandy)? If it is, it’s quite interesting that such a godfearing man would not be able to follow that through to the obvious conclusion: that God wanted Obama to win

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
9:09 pm

I was raised with a strong work ethic…

I was raised with a strong pack of wolves. I padded on all fours fifteen miles — one way — to school, barefoot in the snow, uphill both ways 365 days a year.

Sure, double down on conservative crap

November 8th, 2012
9:09 pm

There it is again, like you have to be a card carrying member of BS Mountain to have a work ethic. You don’t even understand how insulting that is. You are basically saying people who believe Obama is a better leader than Romney are lazy.

You should get out of you bubble more. I saw lots of people in uniforms, with name tags on their shirts, implying that they have jobs, standing in line for hours to vote. The GOP campaign to stifle voting back fired. It made more resolute voters who would stand there in the cold and rain to be heard. Your time is past, as Bookman noted, when all the women, Blacks, Latinos and Asians vote, you are the minority.

Mick

November 8th, 2012
9:09 pm

recon **This will be all on him and his leadership or lack thereof will be the defining metric of his presidency.**

Amazing how you still prognosticate…I’ve been reading yours the past years and all your predictions about this election fell flat. Your just so sure obama will fail, well try focusing on the congress for a change, they’re the ones who need to step up to the plate…

alex

November 8th, 2012
9:12 pm

thank the old white guy for your job….

Josef

November 8th, 2012
9:12 pm

Guy

Better a smartass than a dumbass. :-)

The point is, though, that no one faith or theological paradigm has a patent on the truth. To make such a claim, imeoiauo, negates the entire concept of the Un-versal…

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
9:14 pm

Kammie Poo…go play with your gerbils, they are lonely

Nunna Yobinnes

November 8th, 2012
9:14 pm

You know, it’s funny. The posters on this blog are no better than the “cons” or “reps” they continue to bash and ridicule. The conservatives are condescending? Your arrogance is off the charts. That’s what I hate. Keep it up hypocrites.

Tundra Dude

November 8th, 2012
9:17 pm

Separation of G-d from the blog? And deny H-m his fun?

Hey, He’s got the whole Bible Belt as His playground. ;-)

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
9:17 pm

“That’s what I hate”

And you are being forced to be here by whom?

Josef

November 8th, 2012
9:17 pm

K’chak
@ 9:09

:-)

And you didn’t get the prom burka you asked G-d for either, did you?

Get Real

November 8th, 2012
9:18 pm

Sure, double down on conservative crap

Not saying that at all, simply saying that there are a lot of folks out there that feel this country owes them stuff for being a citizen. Not saying that is your outlook but if you do not believe that is reality then you are woefully naive

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
9:18 pm

mick, thank you for your interest in my posts, I’d like to be able to tell you that I reciprocate with yours, but I wouldn’t be honest if I did. Have a pleasant evening.

guy

November 8th, 2012
9:18 pm

Josef You are both and in that case you win!

pete

November 8th, 2012
9:19 pm

Recon 0311 2533

Something I learned in a debate class I took some years ago. If you can’t back your statement with facts, you are just bull-$hitting yourself, and that does not mean you won the argument.

I find that statement to be true on this blog. It is like arguing with a bunch of frat boys, not intellectuals. They pop off some wise azz comment, then their frat boy buddies hoot and pat him on the back like they accomplished something. The sad thing is, we handed the keys of the country to these frat boys.

I can’t wait for the mental midgets replies.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
9:20 pm

And you didn’t get the prom burka you asked G-d for either, did you?

No, dammit. But I have high hopes that Sandy Claws will come through.

alex

November 8th, 2012
9:20 pm

@sure…Whose minority,let’s see if you take out all the latinos,blacks, and asians,AND WOMEN, what group COULD be a majority, ……

Josef

November 8th, 2012
9:20 pm

Get Real

What’s with the gerbils?

Tundra

:-)

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
9:21 pm

Well Jay’s tools are Jay’s tools. Not much changes and shouldn’t be expected.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
9:22 pm

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
9:18 pm

mick, thank you for your interest in my posts, I’d like to be able to tell you that I reciprocate with yours, but I wouldn’t be honest if I did. Have a pleasant evening.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Translated: Mick, You aren’t a drug addled asshat like Rush Limbaugh, nor are you an amped up meth ho like Ayn Rand, OR a drug addled DRUNKEN asshat like Glenn Beck NOR are you a closed minded Southern Baptist so I can’t hear you. You aren’t far enough up my ass to reach my head.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
9:22 pm

Jay’s point on the Seniors is correct.

I know the wealthy and corporations making record profits do not need any welfare and it is waste.

That is my point would like to end that in the cuts.

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
9:22 pm

alex, you seem very confused.

The anger part, I get.

If I had just voted for the weakest GOP candidate in 80 years, I’d be kinda bummed too!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
9:23 pm

What’s with the gerbils?

He used to chase me around CT’s with snicker snickers about pvc pipe and gerbils

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
9:24 pm

josef: LOL How did you know I was gonna try to see Jay at Manuels Tavern? I didn’t finish up soon enough and when I drove past it was a madhouse. I was starving to death and didn’t see much hope in getting anything edible much less a seat inside in that mob. I justkept on driving.

Were you there?

Mick

November 8th, 2012
9:25 pm

recon

Yes, only when it suits you, I don’t have a problem with it…

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
9:26 pm

“I can’t wait for the mental midgets replies.”

Pete, you’ll get them because as much as they want to resist from responding, they just can’t help themselves.

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
9:26 pm

The dismay & shock is turning into anger and bitterness.

Who is surprised based on the comments leading up to the election?

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
9:27 pm

…we handed the keys of the country…

You didn’t hand sh*t to anybody.

We took them from you dried out old drunks.

And we’ve been kicking your reactionary asses since the 1960s!

Civil rights, women’s rights, gay rights. Yep, you hate it, but who the hell cares! LOL…

Josef

November 8th, 2012
9:27 pm

Guy

Actually, that’s pretty much the sum of it. I’m smart enough to know I can be dumb as 16 trashcans. And, well, go to the scriptures and review the ass’ appearance. Seems he was one of G-d’s favorites..

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
9:27 pm

pete

November 8th, 2012
9:19 pm

Recon 0311 2533

Something I learned in a debate class I took some years ago. If you can’t back your statement with facts, you are just bull-$hitting yourself, and that does not mean you won the argument.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Why do you lie? You never learned a damn thing. You have done nothing (using your alt because you lack the courage to post under the name you used BEFORE the election) but spout talk radio/FOX news lies. You have YET to post a single fact. I have more respect for a Taliban member. At least we know where they are coming from. They aren’t cowards like you.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
9:28 pm

http://www.officialarturdavis.com/2012/11/the-republican-dilemma/

The Republican Party’s defeat unmasks deep liabilities beyond the expected demographic shortcomings with Latinos and voters under 29 (who against all expectations, maintained their slice of the electorate at 2008 levels in the midst of an appalling job market for new college graduates). The electorate rejected Romney even in the face of exit polls showing that voters trusted Romney to handle the economy better than Obama; that they overwhelmingly viewed the economy as poor or mediocre; that they favored repeal of Obama’s signature healthcare initiative; and that they rejected Obama’s strategy of deficit reduction through tax increases.

The conservative base is smaller than it has been in three decades, with its share falling to 35% while liberals edged up to 24%, a narrowing advantage further diminished by the fact that about a fifth of that conservative base consists of blacks and Latinos who still overwhelmingly voted for Obama. The Republican conservative base seems perilously close to shrinking to white southern evangelicals, senior white males, and upper income Protestants.

That’s gotta be bad for a man to switch parties, have all the hope for better results, and watch everything come crashing down around him. I can’t say that I feel sympathy for Artur Davis, but I guess he’s realizing that the grass isn’t always greener on the other side of the road. Hopefully, he won’t be labled as racist for pointing out the obvious demographic shift.

alex

November 8th, 2012
9:29 pm

@Pete: history will repeat itself, like the conservative repubs of the 80’s they too, will overplay their hand, arrogance reigns supreme: “when will they ever learn…”
Kamchak: ARF….

Mick

November 8th, 2012
9:29 pm

fred

Thanks but – no thanks…

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
9:30 pm

oops there’s Fred looking for friends in all the wrong places but on second thought, where else could Fred look.

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
9:31 pm

Mick

November 8th, 2012
9:29 pm

fred

Thanks but – no thanks…
+++++++++++++++++++++

Me? I was just translating for you what Recon was saying lol.

Josef

November 8th, 2012
9:32 pm

Fred
The Imam let the cat out of the bag here..was I there? Now, would I tell you if I were?

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
9:33 pm

Fred

Don’t get out of hand. Recon will take his grievance to the highest levels of Cox Communications.

That was a riot.

;-)

Mick

November 8th, 2012
9:33 pm

fred

No translation needed…everyone who writes here has a record, you are what you write…

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
9:34 pm

Del: I wouldn’t look at you for a friend. I require people with honesty, integrity and honor to be MY friends. You fail on every count.

You have to be in my opinion the most worthless human being on the face of the planet. There are those who serve a useful purpose and those who steal oxygen from the rest of the human race. In my opinion you are an oxygen thief.

I wouldn’t piss in your mouth if your teeth were on fire.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
9:34 pm

Headline (CBS): “7 Navy SEALs disciplined for role with video game”

” CBS News has learned a group of SEALs has been disciplined for revealing secrets.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57547417/7-navy-seals-disciplined-for-role-with-video-game/?tag=AverageMixRelated

BY THE WAY: Was Vice President Biden ever disciplined for revealing the secret that the SEALs killed B.L. ???

Fred ™

November 8th, 2012
9:37 pm

TDS, Mick, josef: I gotta split. SHE WHO MUST BE OBEYED has summoned me. I tarry at my own risk and I’m not brave enough to tarry. Ya’ll be chilly.

Mick

November 8th, 2012
9:38 pm

**revealing the secret that the SEALs killed B.L. ???**

I think the pakistani’s figured it out…

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
9:39 pm

TBS, the panty waist who can’t handle his/her own battles so he/she jumps into the battles of others hoping to get carried or fairyed.

alex

November 8th, 2012
9:39 pm

@Bro, can’t figure out why anyone would call him a racist, that crap is getting old and inhibits good intellectual discussion to throw that concept in. Race IS part of the equation… Most Blacks (93%) voted for Obama partially because he is BLACK and Some whites (60%) voted for Romney partially because he is white. Done, figure the percentages and then intellectually discard these morons and go to the voting population who actually think about the issues, all 3 of them…….. people, I mean, no Kamchuck you who runs with wolves is NOT one of them, anyway your WAY to busy walking in the snow, 365 days a year, and in school………

alex

November 8th, 2012
9:41 pm

fred, back in the basement, people are watching, slowly…………

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
9:41 pm

“Most Blacks (93%) voted for Obama partially because he is BLACK ”

Got proof?

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
9:42 pm

Recon

How did it go, little man

“Jay has a boss, his boss as a boss and that boss as a boss

I will get some answers.

I’m Recon, damn it”

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
9:42 pm

Anyone buy a bride lately?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
9:43 pm

“I think the pakistani’s figured it out…”

Any knucklehead would have figured out it was our “special forces”. However, identifying them as SEALs was a breach of classified information.

Those was down the chain of command are held accountable ………… while those at the top are not.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
9:43 pm

Excuse me: “way down the chain of command”

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 8th, 2012
9:43 pm

anyway your[sic] WAY to busy walking in the snow, 365 days a year, and in school…

Oh, the irony.

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
9:44 pm

I wouldn’t piss in your mouth if your teeth were on fire.

Fred, you don’t have anything to piss with lad you have to squat. You’re a liar about your military combat experience and that paints you POS in my book. Carry on.

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
9:46 pm

Bro, can’t figure out why anyone would call him a racist, that crap is getting old and inhibits good intellectual discussion to throw that concept in.

Well, I can as I was called racist for basically stating the very same thing. Most Blacks didn’t vote for Obama because he’s Black. He got the Black vote because he was the Democratic candidate. Black America overwhelmingly supports the Democratic Party.

Since the end of slavery, Black America has always supported and/or ran as left-of-center candidates. As the parties become more and more polarized, the vote will become more and more concentrated to one side. I doubt any Republican candidate getting more than 5% -10% of the Black vote unless they run as a centrist. As the GOP is all about being true conservatives, we both know that scenario is highly unlikely.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
9:46 pm

Headline (AJC): “Dunwoody Grapples With Police Shortage”

“Call for a police officer in Dunwoody, and you could be in for a wait.”

Only one answer for this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlOxiwGLAkY

pete

November 8th, 2012
9:46 pm

FRED,

Truth hurts huh b1tch.

Be more than happy to entertain you at a spot of your choice. Tell me where and when.

Mick

November 8th, 2012
9:47 pm

0311

Special forces, who else was going to do it, the CIA? Why does it matter so? Mission Accomplished…

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
9:48 pm

Just another sordid and shameful chapter in recent neocon history.

That endless parade of Republican (ONLY) faketriots who said that the Commander-in-Chief deserved no credit for the go/no-go decision on that perilous mission that sent OBL to the bottom of the Indian Ocean.

He was just the kid in the corner in that famous picture, remember?

Horrible Americans, every one of you who wrote that kind of cr@p…

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
9:49 pm

“Why does it matter?”

Because SEALs were later targeted and killed because they were identified as the ones who killed B.L. That’s why.

Tundra Dude

November 8th, 2012
9:49 pm

Anyone buy a bride lately?

No, but I’m watchin’ my email for any 2-for-1 sales….with a liberal return policy, of course.

Josef

November 8th, 2012
9:51 pm

Both…

Yeah, some guy in Buford…or so I heard.. :-)

pete

November 8th, 2012
9:51 pm

Ooooo…Fred got his panties in a wad. Confront libs with the truth, and watch them come unhinged.

Good night Fred.

Mick

November 8th, 2012
9:51 pm

0311

What seals have been killed as a result of the raid? It’s war, they know the score…

They BOTH suck

November 8th, 2012
9:54 pm

josef

He is kicking and stomping in that “closet”….

He might knock the door down and reveal himself

Tundra Dude

November 8th, 2012
9:55 pm

from Bro’s article:
The Republican conservative base seems perilously close to shrinking to white southern evangelicals, senior white males, and upper income Protestants.

Thank G-d for trailer parks.

Rogue Republican
(snipped)
I have been a card-carrying Republican all my life. A signed picture of President Eisenhower hangs over my desk. I’m a veteran of the regular US army.

But today’s Republican party is no longer my Republican party. Back in the day, the GOP was run by East Coast elite of well-educated, sophisticated internationalists who exercised America’s great power with restraint.

Alas, they have been replaced by rural politicians from the deep South and West with no knowledge of the outside world and no sense of history or culture. America’s closet fascist neocons write the GOP’s foreign policies.

http://bit.ly/TopZQb

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
9:57 pm

well, it took a couple of days for the butthurt to deteriorate to unhinged

didn’t it, heheh

Obama won, now what?

November 8th, 2012
9:59 pm

I am just estastic that I’m not in the middle class. After veining on this earth for 54 years as an old “white” guy as so many Dems say is what the Republican Party is! I just made solid business decisions all my life for the most part so I now have luxury to sit back and keep my 80 employee company moving ahead. I love it when the DOL comes in my company demanding employee records to make sure that I am meeting equally balanced on race. I laughed st the last career government worked they sent. I don’t need to gov to help run my biz and its laughable when they think they can tell me who to hire! I will hire a green pig if I want too. The Luxury of being a private biz owner! I love waking up every morning that if I don’t want to go to work, I turn over and go back to sleep. That is the ultimate American dream, just wish my biz was in Costa Rica!
Happy working everyone!

getalife

November 8th, 2012
10:00 pm

“The president gave an emotional thanks to the staff, tearing up as he expressed his gratitude for their support and dedication to the reelection effort.

“I’m really proud of all of you,” Obama said. “What you guys accomplished will go on in the annals of history.” HP.

Yes, they did.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
10:01 pm

Yep, they “know the score” ……………… ever been there ?

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
10:01 pm

“took a couple of days for the butthurt to deteriorate to unhinged”

The five stages of grief:
Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
10:02 pm

“Alas, they have been replaced by rural politicians from the deep South and West with no knowledge of the outside world and no sense of history or culture. America’s closet fascist neocons write the GOP’s foreign policies.”

You can sadly see the decay in America when you read tripe like this post castigating fellow Americans based on regions of this country in which they live. The left is a slime in this great country that just keeps creeping.

Doggone/GA

November 8th, 2012
10:03 pm

I’m getting tired…time to hit that sack. Night all

getalife

November 8th, 2012
10:03 pm

Unhinged Part II.

“Free stuff” is to blame.

Too funny :)

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
10:04 pm

Newly named mystery meat,

Playing with 80 of those little plastic green army men does not count as running a business…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6mh8SX_sXs

The Incredible Shrinking GOP..Too White Too Old Too Exreme

November 8th, 2012
10:04 pm

@Sure, double down on conservative crap

November 8th, 2012
9:00 pm
HHHHHHmmmmm……lots of “Republican Excuses to make me feel better” here. PLEASE keep it up, it ensures your party being completely irrelevant for years to come. As the old white guys die out you will shrink and shrink as a party.

=====================================

HHHHHHmmmmm……the old white guys die out you will shrink and shrink as a party.

The Incredible Shrinking GOP – Too White Too Old Too Exreme.

GOP – Grand old politics (without principle).

They can’t live forever. :)

getalife

November 8th, 2012
10:06 pm

del,

A republican wrote that not a leftist.

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
10:09 pm

“The Incredible Shrinking GOP – Too White Too Old Too Exreme.”

So says the S.F.R.P. (socialist fascist racist progressive)

RF

November 8th, 2012
10:10 pm

“The left is a slime in this great country that just keeps creeping”

And we’re breedin’ like rabbits, so you best either get busy makin’ babies or get used to us. Roughly 52% of American voted for Obama. That’s five percent of you guys since 47% had to be Dems anyway according to Mitt’s math. Do you really want to accept losing 5% of the population to democratic thought or do you realize there just aren’t as many of you as there used to be?

getalife

November 8th, 2012
10:12 pm

Obama,

What is the name of your company?

The Incredible Shrinking GOP..Too White Too Old Too Exreme

November 8th, 2012
10:13 pm

@Obama won, now what?

November 8th, 2012
9:59 pm
I am just estastic that I’m not in the middle class. After veining on this earth for 54 years as an old “white” guy as so many Dems say is what the Republican Party is! I just made solid business decisions all my life for the most part so I now have luxury to sit back and keep my 80 employee company moving ahead. I love it when the DOL comes in my company demanding employee records to make sure that I am meeting equally balanced on race. I laughed st the last career government worked they sent. I don’t need to gov to help run my biz and its laughable when they think they can tell me who to hire! I will hire a green pig if I want too. The Luxury of being a private biz owner! I love waking up every morning that if I don’t want to go to work, I turn over and go back to sleep. That is the ultimate American dream, just wish my biz was in Costa Rica!
Happy working everyone!

===================================================

Judging from your illiterate rantings and all of your spelling and grammatical

errors………who let you have a business license?

Did you buy it from COSTA RICA?

The Incredible Shrinking GOP..Too White Too Old Too Exreme

November 8th, 2012
10:16 pm

@getalife

November 8th, 2012
10:12 pm
Obama,

What is the name of your company?

===============================================

COSTA RICAN JANITORIAL AND TAXI SERVICE, INC. :)

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
10:20 pm

…the decay in America…

Just another con variation of “America sucks”.

Jerry Falwell would be proud…

Brosephus™

November 8th, 2012
10:25 pm

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
10:26 pm

Recon:

“Too White ……………..” ?

Except when it comes to deaths in our nations wars. Just check out the percentages of white men who have given their lives since the founding of this country versus the rest :

http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/american%20war%20casualty.htm

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
10:27 pm

after this shellacking, do we have -
reflection?
remorse?
self-examination?

oh hell to the naw – so far we got -
‘Makers/takers’ dogwhistle
lazy
free stuff
RIP ‘merka

just go away cons, just go away

Tundra Dude

November 8th, 2012
10:27 pm

Judging from your illiterate rantings and all of your spelling and grammatical
errors………who let you have a business license?

Did you buy it from COSTA RICA?

Probably got it free….when he bought his genuine University degree on the ‘net.

Obama

November 8th, 2012
10:37 pm

Who got bin Laden?

Dats right….

pete

November 8th, 2012
10:37 pm

Hey libs,

How is the clean up going down there in NY and NJ? Wow, Obama really rolled you a big turd on that one. Yeah, looks like he pissed off folks who were willing to help, and left the clean up to a bunch of union folks. Looks like it will be at least a month before power is restored to some places. Dang, and there was a group from Alabama Power & Light that drove all the way down there only to be chased off by those same union thugs. Oh well, maybe some of that hope and change garbage will feed them and keep them warm.

St Simons - he-ne-ha

November 8th, 2012
10:40 pm

Has a political party ever disbanded because

they just creeped people out?

pete

November 8th, 2012
10:41 pm

Yes, Obama got bin Laden, then he apologized to his family. Nice guy.

The Kid

November 8th, 2012
10:41 pm

Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck all together don’t have one-third the education President Obama has; but they are followed by so many of you fools. They get rich off the gullibilty of the lower class white masses that they wouldn’t even associate themselves with. Their children go to private schools and look down on you, who they think of as those beneath them.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
10:42 pm

The weed movement is winning pete so you can buy weed with your liquor at the liquor store.

You need it.

Obama won, now what?

November 8th, 2012
10:43 pm

To all the negative comments.

It’s time to go to bed now so you can be fresh for your JOB!

I will be thinking of all the negative / jealous comments in BED as you will be stuck in traffic!

getalife

November 8th, 2012
10:45 pm

Obama,

Go look for a job moocher.

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
10:46 pm

Bro, thanks.

Once again, we Hebes b*tch slapped the right wing zealots. About 7 out of 10 of us voted against the con’s cowardly candidate.

Speaking of fascistic union busters and anti-Americans, you must be thrilled that Yankees are suffering, huh pete?

pete

November 8th, 2012
10:47 pm

I gots me some mo of dem Obama Bucks today. Ain’t gots to have no job you silly honky.

YouLibs

November 8th, 2012
10:49 pm

pete

November 8th, 2012
9:19 pm

Recon 0311 2533

Something I learned in a debate class I took some years ago. If you can’t back your statement with facts, you are just bull-$hitting yourself, and that does not mean you won the argument.

I find that statement to be true on this blog. It is like arguing with a bunch of frat boys, not intellectuals. They pop off some wise azz comment, then their frat boy buddies hoot and pat him on the back like they accomplished something. The sad thing is, we handed the keys of the country to these frat boys.

I can’t wait for the mental midgets replies.

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pete
November 2nd, 2012
5:06 pm
I find it ironic that the president that the folks on the left thought was so compassionate has tucked his tail between his legs and ran off to campaign in Vegas. Folks in NJ and NY are left holding the bag of sh*t that Obama sold them while he tries to save his own sorry arse. So typical.
Obama will lose Tuesday, and you will be left holding that bag yourselves.

Obama

November 8th, 2012
10:50 pm

I have a job. Its called being prez and I get to do it for four more years. Taking out those who kill Americans.

It’s better than your job.

YouLibs

November 8th, 2012
10:51 pm

We take you very, very seriously here pete. Please, whatever you do, don’t get mad and leave, okay?

pete

November 8th, 2012
10:52 pm

YouLibs,

Yup.

Obama

November 8th, 2012
10:53 pm

Time to rebuild America.

Now that we got Osama.

RF

November 8th, 2012
10:54 pm

“Obama will lose Tuesday, and you will be left holding that bag yourselves”

so THAT explains why he’s so mad. Somebody musta put it on his doorstep and set fire to it and rang the doorbell. He stepped in it up to his better end…

JamVet

November 8th, 2012
10:57 pm

Yes, Obama got bin Laden, then he apologized to his family.

Where do you losers come up with this insane cr@p, pete?

Faux News? Lush Rimjob?

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
11:02 pm

0311/8541,

Without question the facts speak loud and clear. These asinine racist comments disparaging White people who largely built this country with their blood is blood boiling.

Obama

November 8th, 2012
11:04 pm

Crazies may want to discuss conspiracy theories.

I want to go forward.

getalife

November 8th, 2012
11:05 pm

pete

November 8th, 2012
11:05 pm

You guys don’t get it, do you? I am not mad at all, disgusted, but not mad.

This is not the country I grew up in. It has changed for the worse, and some folks can’t see the destruction. This campaign was a scorched earth campaign, burn everything in sight for a victory. What did you win? A narrow 51% win, but what did you lose in the process?

I don’t know why I get so involved with politics. I myself am set, why should I care about anyone else? I don’t have anything to worry about, but I am worried about the country that my son is growing up in.

Sorry if I upset anyone, but this is not the country I grew up in.

Jackson

November 8th, 2012
11:06 pm

The media pundits are giving the minority vote too much credit….the bottom line is that with 69% of the population being non-Hispanic white, Obama would not have won without white voters. PERIOD. I don’t know what the fuss is about increased Hispanic vote, or increased Black vote. White voters elected Barack Hussein Obama.

Obama

November 8th, 2012
11:07 pm

Let’s cut some taxes.

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
11:09 pm

Sorry if I upset anyone, but this is not the country I grew up in.

Pete, don’t give up the country will come back. There’s too much tradition and that’s very hard if not impossible to break.

Obama

November 8th, 2012
11:10 pm

Pete 11:05.

Nothing stays the same. The only constant is change.

Obama

November 8th, 2012
11:12 pm

We’re still America. But we are a different America.

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
11:12 pm

The only constant is change.

Nice cliche but human nature hasn’t changed in thousands of years.

crying

November 8th, 2012
11:12 pm

Obama

November 8th, 2012
11:14 pm

I’m bringing responsibility to America.

You have to take care of your employees with healthcare now. If you don’t have healthcare, now you have to buy it instead of freeloading.

Responsibility. It’s catching on.

pete

November 8th, 2012
11:15 pm

Recon 0311 2533

I told my wife the other night that I am ready to just throw in the towel. Mitt Romney is an honest and good man that doesn’t deserve some of the comments I heard from dems and the MSM.

There is a hard lesson that the dems will learn soon, maybe not in my lifetime, but soon. You reap what you sow.

Thulsa Doom

November 8th, 2012
11:17 pm

Recon,

But its fashionable in liberal circles to disparage white people. Why else do you think redneck convert is so popular with them? But do you think white liberals really want anything to do with the black people that they see as their mascots? Aw hell no. You think white liberals in San Francisco or Berkley, CA. want to live in or near black neighborhoods? Shyte. The most bigoted and condescending racists in the world are white liberals.

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
11:18 pm

Responsibility. It’s catching on’

I certainly hope so but first we’ve got to get beyond the irresponsibility and that been seriously building over the last four years.

Obama

November 8th, 2012
11:20 pm

Pete

Mitt is a good person. But the election is over. Let Mitt go.

Thulsa Doom

November 8th, 2012
11:21 pm

pete,

What goes around comes around. And what these liberals are going to realize one day is what the Greeks are learning today. One day the bill is gonna be due and the piper is going to have to be paid. And when the social svcs system collapses under its sheer weight and all the dependents have no one to give them their food stamps then the idea will finally hit them that they’re going to have to learn self reliance. Their day of reckoning is coming. Its still years off. But its coming.

pete

November 8th, 2012
11:22 pm

Thulsa Doom

I met Joe Biden several years ago when I was working at a TV station up in Delaware. He is nothing but a snake, and everyone there said to stay away from that parasite, far, far away. He is nothing but an a$$ kisser that has never accomplished anything on his own. Everything in his life has been delivered to him on a platter, and one day he will pay for the deeds he has done.

crying

November 8th, 2012
11:22 pm

Mitt has been running for the WH so long, I bet he would crush a marathon.

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
11:23 pm

“The most bigoted and condescending racists in the world are white liberals.”

Doom, you’ve got that right. You could have included stupid in those describers.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
11:23 pm

Recon @ 11:02

As always …………… “kept by better men than themselves”.

I have tightened the perimeter, cared for my wounded and redistributed ammo.

TAPS !

TAPS !

Obama

November 8th, 2012
11:23 pm

Recon, yes. We need more responsibility.

Corporate responsibility. Personal responsibility. And governmental responsibility.

Thulsa Doom

November 8th, 2012
11:24 pm

“You have to take care of your employees with healthcare now. If you don’t have healthcare, now you have to buy it instead of freeloading.”

No they don’t. Employers will simply start dropping group coverage. They’ve already started doing it.

Thulsa Doom

November 8th, 2012
11:25 pm

Recon,

The stupid part I figured was self evident.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
11:25 pm

One more:

I’M SOOOOOOO TOUCHED !

“Obama wipes away tears while speaking to staff”

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-wipes-away-tears-while-speaking-staff-011154137–election.html

Recon 0311 2533

November 8th, 2012
11:27 pm

Doom, I hear you.

Thulsa Doom

November 8th, 2012
11:28 pm

pete,

I believe a man’s actions speaker louder than his words. Apparently it is the opposite with liberals. In Joe Biden’s case when they ran in 08 it was revealed that this millionaire had given a paltry $1,000 to charity the year before. What a horrible POS of a man. Even last year I believe he had given either $1,000 again or 1% of his income which is still just absymal. His actions regarding charitable giving reveal that this man is a terribly selfish and petty POS. I can’t fathom having his wealth and being that damn sorry in terms of charitable giving.

bigbill

November 8th, 2012
11:29 pm

I grew up in Atlanta in the fifties and sixties and this rant by O’Reilly (and the one unleashed by Neal Boortz against President Obama and his re-election victory), trigger for me memories of the arguments, polemics, and rants we, as kids, heard over and over from the Georgia governors, legislators, church leaders, teachers, the parents of our neighbors, and on and on, all telling us that black people were inferior, that the very idea of integration and equal rights for black citizens was immoral, wrong, unthinkable, and how could anyone ever think otherwise. There were wonderful exceptions, of course.

I am just kind of stunned thinking how this all these furious fulminations from these two modern-day bigots – O’Rielly and Boortz – hearken back to what I remember growing up and hearing day in and day out, week in and week out, from Herman Talmadge, Lester Maddox, the church pastors, the newspaper editorials that if one black child was allowed into “our schools” it would be the end of the world! And now,in the twenty-first century, when a black man is elected president and, horror of horrors, re-elected president, we are once again all doomed. I guess that we will always have racist bigots among us. What they say is bad enough. But why does a major radio station – -WSB Atlanta – and a major national TV network – FoxNews – have to give them a platform? Why, at long last, can’t O’Reilly and Boortz be relegated to the fringes of society where they belong: ignored, isolated, howling in the dark night?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
11:29 pm

Oh …………. just “one” more !

Thulsa:

“The most bigoted and condescending racists in the world are white liberals.”

And the most bigoted and condescending people live in our northern states !

Obama

November 8th, 2012
11:29 pm

Mr. Doom,

If companies will not take responsibility, then individuals must take responsibility for themselves.

If your employer drops you, then you may want a new employer. Bootstraps, engaged.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 8th, 2012
11:30 pm

bigbill:

Listen very, very, very carefully.

IT’S NOT OBAMA !!!!!

IT’S HIS POLICIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!