The GOP’s self-defeating image of minorities as ‘takers’
I’m seeing and hearing a lot of this kind of thing, on this blog and elsewhere, as Republicans attempt to come to grips with Tuesday’s election defeat and try to seek explanations for why they lost.
For those unable to watch video, here’s what O’Reilly had to say on Election Night, as it was becoming apparent that it would be a bad night for Republicans:
“The white establishment is now the minority. And the voters, many of them, feel that the economic system is stacked against them and they want stuff. You are going to see a tremendous Hispanic vote for President Obama. Overwhelming black vote for President Obama. And women will probably break President Obama’s way. People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?”
In one sense, you can understand why that kind of rationalization would be appealing. In effect, O’Reilly is telling his listeners that “We lost by being better than they are. It’s not our fault and there’s nothing we can or should change.” He applies the powerful salve of moral superiority to a open wound, and by doing so he makes people feel better. People like to feel better, so they’ll come back to Fox for more.
But O’Reilly’s wrong. He’s wrong as a matter of politics, he’s wrong as a matter of morality, and he’s wrong as a matter of history. His listeners are equally wrong to believe him. To the degree that they continue to do so, they are likely to experience more tough election nights in the years to come.
Think about it. While older white voters might find O’Reilly’s message reassuring, imagine that you’re black (93 percent for Obama), or Latino-American (71 percent for Obama), or Asian-American (73 percent for Obama). Imagine that you’re flipping through the news coverage on Election Night and you hear O’Reilly make those comments. How do they come across?
They come across as condescending and even racist, because they ARE condescending and racist. The comments equate the fading “white establishment” with all that is good and great in this country, while the rising minority tide is treated as “takers,” as leeches.
It’s not a complicated thing. Hearing that kind of argument, the natural reaction of almost any non-white listener will be to reject the political party from which such sentiments are emanating, regardless of what other affinities you might have with it. Because you and your parents and your cousins and your friends are being insulted.
But is O’Reilly’s formulation nonetheless accurate? Not even close.
To use his term, it was “the white establishment” that created Social Security, and it did so largely for white people, because that’s who dominated this country at the time. It was the white establishment that created Medicare, and it did so largely for white people, because again, that’s who dominated the country at that time. More recently, the white establishment, in the form of President George W. Bush and a Republican Congress, created Medicare Part D.
Who’s on Medicaid, the government-financed health care program that Romney/Ryan proposed to slash? Among the non-elderly, some 43 percent are white, 22 percent are black and 28 percent are Latino. And who’s on food stamps? According to the Census Bureau, 59 percent are white.
And if you really want to get down to it, we can do so.
U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan campaigns at The Villages retirement community in Florida, promising to protect "free stuff" for senior citizens.
When Paul Ryan campaigned in the massive Villages retirement community in central Florida this year, promising to restore the $716 billion in “free stuff” that Obama had cut from Medicare, he wasn’t pitching those remarks to retired black school-bus drivers. He was pitching them to white Americans over 65, 61 percent of whom ended up voting for the Romney/Ryan ticket.
Because let’s be blunt. No demographic group in the country gets more “free stuff” from the government than its senior citizens. In fact, seniors make up roughly half of that infamous “47 percent” who pay no federal income taxes. And a lot of them sat there Tuesday night, watching on Fox and shaking their heads in agreement with O’Reilly.
One final point:
The 2012 exit polls offer further evidence to rebut the notion that Obama’s coalition is motivated largely by the demand for “free stuff.”
For example:
– The 65 percent of Americans who believe that illegal immigrants ought to be given a chance to become U.S. citizens voted for Obama by a 24-point margin. These are people drawn to this country by the opportunity to work to make things better for themselves and their children, and the Obama coalition respects them for it.
– The 49 percent of Americans who believe that gay marriage should be legal voted for Obama by a 48-point margin. (The 46 percent who believe it should be banned voted for Romney by a similar margin.) Younger Americans in particular define that as a basic civil right, and voters in four states confirmed that belief Tuesday.
– The 59 percent of Americans who believe that abortion ought to be legal — that such an issue is up to the individual, rather than government bureaucrats — voted for Obama by a 36-point margin.
That’s not “free stuff.” That’s freedom and opportunity, even if the definitions of freedom and opportunity might differ from those of earlier generations of Americans. That’s how it ought to be. Every generation in this country has re-interpreted the American dream in its own way, and nothing is going to stop that process.
– Jay Bookman
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Jefferson
November 8th, 2012
12:25 pm
A party that will run a Romney is just D U M B.
Child, please
November 8th, 2012
12:25 pm
“People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?”
Call me a fool, but I don’t see one thing racist/sexist/ or anything else “ist” about that statement. Hit the election on the head. One candidate promised (he won’t deliver as he has not for the last four years on most of his promises) more to the people than the other. He won. Simple. People like to be told “yes”, not “no”. One candidate promised “yes”, one did not.
The amazing thing is that even after all the broken promises and poor job performance of the last four years, people think the President is going to change or that he has more to offer ? Good luck with that….
Paul
November 8th, 2012
12:25 pm
Stevie Ray
Jay may not engage with what he sees as a clear quote, so I’ll have a go.
““The white establishment is now the minority”
White people were once the majority but are now the minority. So the nonwhites are now the majority.
“And the voters, many of them,”
He didn’t say the majority, he said ‘many.’ But he segued from the previous majority, the whites. He prefaced that remark by saying ‘the demographics are changing, it’s not a traditional country any more.”
Then he continued with ‘many of them feel that the economic system is stacked against them and they want stuff. You are going to see a tremendous Hispanic vote for President Obama. Overwhelming black vote for President Obama. And women will probably break President Obama’s way. People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?”
So it seems pretty plain.
indigo
November 8th, 2012
12:26 pm
The Republican Party is dominated by far-right Tea Party fundamentalist Christians. These people are rigid and narrow minded in their thinking and it’s next to impossible for them to show consideration for any viewpoints contrary to theirs. Because of this, it’s possible we’ll get a lot of lip service comments about change from the Republicans but, in fact, no actual real change.
Maybe, after losing two or three more elections, cold hard reality will trump scripture.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
November 8th, 2012
12:26 pm
Sockpuppet theatre & meltdowns
I see its taking a couple of days to sink in. I expected this yesterday.
a late surge if you will, heheh
STEVIE RAY
November 8th, 2012
12:26 pm
JAMVET
In your view, what makes one talking head more slimeball than another?
Anytime Jay, O’Reilly, and the like make the media news, suggests to me that there isn’t remotely enough real news to report..
Citizen of the World
November 8th, 2012
12:26 pm
If the GOP can direct the angry/fearful white man’s attention toward the poor and minorities as the threat, then that takes their eyes off the true threat, which is often “the man,” whom Romney epitomizes.
One big problem for the GOP is that not all white people are angry and fearful. President Obama was not elected by the poor and minorities alone.
Tom Middleton
November 8th, 2012
12:26 pm
Well, you know how it is, Jay: This current crop of self-defeating conservatives hide behind their ideological walls of extreme selfishness and self-delusion and think their guns and threats of violence will protect them from freedom for all.
But freedom is going to win anyway and there’s nothing they can do about this, except, of course, to get with the program and learn to be free themselves!
Joe Hussein Mama
November 8th, 2012
12:27 pm
E. Cat — “Coming thru on Hartsfield Sunday @ 17:30″
Turn the x-ray mo-sheen up to HIGH and make Cat take a ride on the belt.
Can’t be too safe, you know.
straitroad
November 8th, 2012
12:27 pm
Jay, I don’t know where you’re from or what your background is, but I suspect that you lack the proper perspective to be an authority on the issue of prejudice.
Native Atlantan
November 8th, 2012
12:28 pm
Hmmmm…Nero is sounding more like Ahem every post….or Pee Wee Herman…can’t decide…
Nero
November 8th, 2012
12:28 pm
Dear getalife,
Obama phone!!
Sincerely,
Traitor
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 8th, 2012
12:28 pm
Thanks Fred…. I would like to borrow a statement from Brian Williams who accurately described Trump.
“
Donald TrumpDoomsy, who has driven well past the last exit to relevance and peered into something closer to irresponsible here, istweetingposting.”Jefferson
November 8th, 2012
12:29 pm
The reason the GOP and their supporters spew and rationalize all this chit is because their main character flaws are they know everything and everyone else is stupid. But they are the ones mad and crying.
They BOTH suck
November 8th, 2012
12:29 pm
Jay
This article in my opinion relates to your article from yesterday regarding the conservative media.
My take was slightly different. The conservative media didn’t fail their audience. Their audience let themselves down. Conservative media is just selling what many on the right want to hear and read. Not all by any means, but many of their followers are not looking for any other information that would possibly conflict with the narrative already in their minds. It is an easy sell that is demonstrated by your article yesterday, this article, and some of the websites and “headlines” linked on your blog every day.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 8th, 2012
12:30 pm
Nero — “Sincerely, Traitor”
(whip-crack noise)
(makes “L” hand gesture)
LOSER! Move On!
STEVIE RAY
November 8th, 2012
12:30 pm
PAUL
How do those comments relate to the definition of racist? Both you and Jay should consult your dictionaries..O’Reilly is no more a racist than Jay is..of course any chance to take the victory giddiness and go overboard with such terms is expected
Cheap and unfounded allegations of racism are the thoughts of the weak..you have any idea how often Al Sharpton has appeared on his show? You suppose Al would appear on his show if O’Reilly was racists..?
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!
November 8th, 2012
12:30 pm
It’s part of the Republican mindset; the fear and blaming of The Other. It’s always got to be the fault of some easily identifiable group of people, and skin color and language help to make targeting easier.
Brown people are more easily distinguished in a crowd. Bro can probably tell you that there are a lot of “non-brown” people who are illegally in this country; however, in RINO land, they blend in better.
Winston Churchill
November 8th, 2012
12:31 pm
your GT fellow, angry little bugger needs to recall my expression:” those that are young and vote conservative have no heart, those that are old and vote liberal, have no brain”…but what do I know I played both sides pretty well, I guess it had something to do with serving the Queen and country first…..
As for your President, tough job, Bicker, Bicker, both “sides” sound like me before my 2 nd bottle of champagne in the morning ( I write better after 3 bottles). I see America “coming back” to the rest of the world.. You made us jealous for a while, but welcome back……I wonder who’ll write the Yankee version of “good bye to all that”….Good day all, For those of you inclined to gloat, it’s quite beneath you. For you who need to accept your defeat,work harder and learn, remember, I had to reinvent myself sveral times……
Fred ™
November 8th, 2012
12:33 pm
Child, please
November 8th, 2012
12:25 pm
“People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them things?”
Call me a fool, but I don’t see one thing racist/sexist/ or anything else “ist” about that statement. Hit the election on the head. One candidate promised (he won’t deliver as he has not for the last four years on most of his promises) more to the people than the other. He won. Simple. People like to be told “yes”, not “no”. One candidate promised “yes”, one did not.
The amazing thing is that even after all the broken promises and poor job performance of the last four years, people think the President is going to change or that he has more to offer ? Good luck with that….
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You need a new set of talk radio lies, those ones are old and have FAILED.
They BOTH suck
November 8th, 2012
12:33 pm
quick follow up……..
Many on the left fit into the same mold as I described @ 12:29
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 8th, 2012
12:33 pm
You suppose Al would appear on his show if O’Reilly was racists..?
A variation of the “I can’t be racist, I have friends who are black”?
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!
November 8th, 2012
12:33 pm
The conservative media didn’t fail their audience. Their audience let themselves down. Conservative media is just selling what many on the right want to hear and read.
Sad. But true…………
Brosephus™
November 8th, 2012
12:33 pm
if he says he’ll meet you, don’t believe him!!!
That’s if you come through on a day where there’s an OB/GYN appointment. I am not about to anger Mrs. Brosephus.
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Jay @ 12:11
Either way FL goes, you’re gonna need to recalibrate as you’re going to be wrong.
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EC
I work the early Mexico flights. I’ll be in front of the tv watching football by the time you touch ground.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 8th, 2012
12:34 pm
S. Ray — “You suppose Al would appear on his show if O’Reilly was racists..?”
Do you REALLY think that demonstrating a lack of racism is THAT easy?
deegee
November 8th, 2012
12:35 pm
My 50 year old Fox News loving sister-in-law that has worked maybe 1 year in her entire adult life has finally posted on Facebook. In anticipation of the onerous tax burden that she and my brother will be facing, she placed us on notice that she is adjusting their household budget and will be pinching all of the pennies that the government will allow them too keep. My brother has worked for 31years for a major oil company that is the recipient of big tax expenditures, and she wouldn’t know a budget if it came up and bit her on the behind.
Nero
November 8th, 2012
12:36 pm
Joe,
Nah, I’d rather watch you burn
Joe Hussein Mama
November 8th, 2012
12:36 pm
Brosephus — “That’s if you come through on a day where there’s an OB/GYN appointment.”
OB-GYN Kenobi! (snicker)
Use the Forceps, Luke! Use the Forceps!
Brosephus™
November 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
Bro can probably tell you that there are a lot of “non-brown” people who are illegally in this country; however, in RINO land, they blend in better.
Yep!! Just as there are many “brown” people who are legal here but are perceived as being illegal because of their appearance.
They BOTH suck
November 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
Stevie Ray
I would not call Bill Oreily a racist. However I will say that for political reasons many folks on both sides of the aisle will exploit an issue with racially tinged language if they think there is something to gain.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 8th, 2012
12:37 pm
Nero — “Nah, I’d rather watch you burn”
Sounds good, loser.
Sit in the back with the rest of the sickos and STFU, then. We’re busy working down here.
DwayneL
November 8th, 2012
12:38 pm
Not all minorities, just mexicans and blacks!
F. Sinkwich
November 8th, 2012
12:38 pm
“LAS VEGAS (CBS Las Vegas) — A Las Vegas business owner with 114 employees fired 22 workers today, apparently as a direct result of President Obama’s re-election.
“David” (he asked to remain anonymous for obvious reasons) told Host Kevin Wall on 100.5 KXNT that “elections have consequences” and that “at the end of the day, I need to survive.””
I sure hope David selected his layoff candidates by first making note of any O’bozo stickers on the cars driven by his employees.
godless heathen
November 8th, 2012
12:38 pm
The GOP wants to dump its responsibilty and stiff Americans.
Who said that?
Nero
November 8th, 2012
12:38 pm
Jefferson,
Tell Weezy to keep warming those beans on the grill.
Sincerely,
Baby Traitor
Joe Hussein Mama
November 8th, 2012
12:38 pm
Brosephus — “Yep!! Just as there are many “brown” people who are legal here but are perceived as being illegal because of their appearance.”
My wife and I have certainly encountered that.
Wonder how racist Hawaii Republicans are? Whites are in the minority there, so how do they handle it?
booger
November 8th, 2012
12:39 pm
deegree,
Be interested in knowing what big tax expenditures oil companies are supposed to be getting.
Brosephus™
November 8th, 2012
12:39 pm
JHM
MadMax
November 8th, 2012
12:40 pm
“Every generation in this country has re-interpreted the American dream in its own way, and nothing is going to stop that process.” One thing might – a full out and out depression when the weight of the accumulating debt comes home to roost. We keep kicking the can down the road but in the very near future we may not have the strength to kick that can. The can is not a white problem or an hispanic problem or an asian problem or a black problem. It is an American problem and when it comes back all will be required to sacrifice. IMO
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!
November 8th, 2012
12:40 pm
Keep: Guess he has to come up with a way to get more money from them billionaires.
HA!!
You know i LIKE the fact that despite all the SuperPac money that was thrown at the election; Despite all the EMPLOYERS hinting at firing their workers; Despite the FEAR that Romney et al. tried to use as a wedge; Despite the CATHOLIC CHURCH trying to bring moralization, (finally — what happened to their morals during the pedophile abuse scandals), and “the church is being attacked!!” propaganda; Despite black ministers getting into their pulpits and saying “HOMOSEXUALS!!! Obama likes homosexuals!!” loudly and incessantly; despite all that…………
…………………..they all LOST. And AMERICA WON!!!
Take THAT fear mongers!!!
Fred ™
November 8th, 2012
12:41 pm
I sure hope David selected his layoff candidates by first making note of any O’bozo stickers on the cars driven by his employees.
You mean like Neal’s buddy in Florida did? What fine American’s you both are, rejoicing in people losing jobs. No WONDER you are Republicans.
Nero
November 8th, 2012
12:42 pm
Let it out Joe. It’s cathartic. You sounded a little constipated. Let me know if I can help some more, I’ll be right here watching you burn. – “Loser” Traitor
STEVIE RAY
November 8th, 2012
12:43 pm
Joe,
Ok fair point but can you provide me examples the O’Reilly has animosity toward, controls or otherwise thinks his race is superior?
Suggesting that both parties have their base and both base’s expect something is painfully obvious…
Oh, please provide an example that doesn’t involve blatant interpretation of the comment to serve, in this instance, Jays need to make this a contentious issue on this forum…sometimes you think you already know the answer regardless of credible support..
stands for decibels
November 8th, 2012
12:43 pm
Watch tonight we will be explaining free stuff vs. working for your own stuff!
BillO, being that I’m a ladies’ man like you, I’m working to buy me some falafel.
Fred ™
November 8th, 2012
12:43 pm
Hey Nero, the bridges I burn light my way forward. Gotta match?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
November 8th, 2012
12:44 pm
TOLD you we’d win Florida, Ohio & Virginia.
We’re 90k ahead with Miami & the Keys to count, whatcha think?
and 7 new wild savage residents soon. All democrats.
like my father/mother before me, and his father/mother before them.
godless heathen
November 8th, 2012
12:44 pm
Do you REALLY think that demonstrating a lack of racism is THAT easy?
Dunno, but you ask Joe Biden.
They BOTH suck
November 8th, 2012
12:45 pm
Fred
How funny these so called business owners forgot about the supply and demand curve they must have mastered at one time to become successful.
All their contracts and clients dried up yesterday?
If these stories are true, those folks were likely going to be laid off any way. It is an excuse to blame Obama.
What was Romney going to do as the President elect to save those jobs?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 8th, 2012
12:46 pm
Debbie, I certainly agree that it is nice to see that money cannot buy all Americans. We’re going to have to wait and see how those idiot employers like the CEO clown at ASG respond. He’ll blame Obama for his own impending failure and unfortunately hurt a lot of good employees in the meantime all for his personal greed.
getalife
November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm
nero loves him some trillion dollar corporate and military industrial complex leeches.
Paul
November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm
Stevie Ray
It may be helpful at this point to have you define racism as we’re obviously not on the same page.
I just always thought stuff like lazy blacks, drunk Irishmen, dumb Swedes, Latinos coming here to get on welfare, all those kinds of things were racist – bigoted – labeling an entire ethnic group with negative stereotypes.
They BOTH suck
November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm
Stop feeding the sock puppet troll.
He will go away.
stands for decibels
November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm
Guv takes 14% of my income for my entire working life in exchange for a pittance to be returned to me after I retire.
You know, if I actually believed such a thing to be true, I’d probably be very bitter, myself.
Fred ™
November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm
Yo St. Simons: The wife is going to Vandy and the child to grandmommies on friday and neither will be back til Saturday night? How’s the weather down there? Any fish running?.
Jeffrey
November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm
BRAVO Jay!
Nero
November 8th, 2012
12:48 pm
I do. As well as some gasoline. Now hold still. We can all burn together.
Jay
November 8th, 2012
12:48 pm
In other words, all over the land, incompetent business people who can’t make a go of it will be blaming their own failure on Obama’s re-election. And all the while, they’ll also complain about people who won’t take personal responsibility.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!
November 8th, 2012
12:48 pm
I sure hope David selected his layoff candidates by first making note of any O’bozo stickers on the cars driven by his employees.
I sure hope David has a good attorney and can afford the class action lawsuit that would result on his targeting a subset of his employees for political reasons.
STEVIE RAY
November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm
BOTH
Thank you…news has become highly valued entertainment…it is very difficult to discern which is which…
I just get miffed when allegations of racism pop up in inappropriate places without any justification except thinking that that particular topic is similar to arguing whos at fault for what..
Sure racism exists but there are many REAL, easily identifiable racists out there than Jays attempt to paint a successful competitor as same..
godless heathen
November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm
You know, if I actually believed such a thing to be true, I’d probably be very bitter, myself.
What part don’t you believe?
Fred ™
November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm
They BOTH suck
November 8th, 2012
12:47 pm
Stop feeding the sock puppet troll.
He will go away.
+++++++++++++++++
But Nero is a happy troll.
Nero
November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm
No getaife. They can burn with the rest of you regular welfare leeches.
Jay
November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm
And folks, let’s calm down. I haven’t had to ban a single person yet this week, to my shock and amazement. I’m just starting to catch up on comments here, and I hope I can keep that record clean.
Thomas
November 8th, 2012
12:49 pm
First, nominate someone electable. Second, drop and fully separate your ideals on abortion and simply state that abortion should be in the hands of the mother and not the Supreme Court. Third, fade your on parties extremist. Fourth, talk about the interplay about all the nation’s problems- from the fiscal cliff to immigration reform. Lastly, for the love of god, grab the Indian/Asian population- a group that the media doesn’t even largely consider a minority.
Nero
November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm
No Fred. I’m a sad troll.
bucket
November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm
“When you don’t have a record to run on, you paint your opponent as someone to run from.” Who said that? None other than the POTUS himself! All of the numbers were clearly not in the President’s favor. Unemployment: up, debt: rising (you could confiscate the combined wealth of the top 1% and it wouldn’t be enough to run the government for 2 months, gas prices: almost doubled, economy: very slow growth out of the recession ( and we may be headed for another if the incompetents on both sides can’t reach a deal). The “Kill Romney” strategy worked to perfection.
Paul
November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm
Stevie Ray
Just to clarify things: Jay did not say BOR was a racist, which is what I read you as saying. He wrote his comments came across that way.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm
Nero: “I do. As well as some gasoline. Now hold still. We can all burn together. ”
Can you play fiddle?
godless heathen
November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm
BTW, I’m not bitter about Social Security. But like Midori, I’m just saying, when I draw my little check, don’t say I’m getting a freebie.
getalife
November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm
nero,
Well, that will get you kicked out of the gop tiny tent son.
Fred ™
November 8th, 2012
12:51 pm
Ok Nero, a SAD troll then. But you aren’t a mean bitter name calling troll. You fully accept your role as a traitor lol which is a plus in my book. I like folks who are self aware.
Nero
November 8th, 2012
12:51 pm
I think more Americans need to come over to the Traitor side. It really opens your eyes.
Brosephus™
November 8th, 2012
12:52 pm
What was Romney going to do as the President elect to save those jobs?
Romney was going to give them money to offset the lack of demand. In other words, the business owners were looking for the government to give them something.
Erwin's cat
November 8th, 2012
12:52 pm
JHM…easy on the belt ride….but the heavy X-ray should cure what i come back with
Bro – too bad…If i have a problem @ customs I’ll be sure and mention your name…and then be prepared to be handcuffed, strip searched, and relieved of my duty free tequila ….
getalife
November 8th, 2012
12:52 pm
godless,
SS is a return on your investment.
cons like nero call you leeches .
STEVIE RAY
November 8th, 2012
12:52 pm
JAY
So you got one example that may or may not pan out to be true….now it’s “all over the land”? Unemployed business folks are blaming their lack of success on Obama?
Sweeping generalizations…it seems to be the opinion of you and your more faithful sheep to assume that all the ills of this country are at the hands of the successful and the other party..
I wish I had your job, that dope Hannity’s job, or perhaps that dope Lawrence O’Donnell’s job..easy money…simply take all the ills of society and assign blame to others…
Fred ™
November 8th, 2012
12:53 pm
bucket
November 8th, 2012
12:50 pm
“When you don’t have a record to run on, you paint your opponent as someone to run from.” Who said that? None other than the POTUS himself! All of the numbers were clearly not in the President’s favor. Unemployment: up, debt: rising (you could confiscate the combined wealth of the top 1% and it wouldn’t be enough to run the government for 2 months, gas prices: almost doubled, economy: very slow growth out of the recession ( and we may be headed for another if the incompetents on both sides can’t reach a deal). The “Kill Romney” strategy worked to perfection.
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Dude, you NEED to get a new set of talk radio/FOX lies. We the people rejected that weak sauce set on Tuesday.
Come on now, I know you haven’t done it in a long time but TRY to think for yourself……….
Nero
November 8th, 2012
12:53 pm
getalife,
Not your son, chief.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 8th, 2012
12:53 pm
Nero — “Let it out Joe. It’s cathartic. You sounded a little constipated. Let me know if I can help some more, I’ll be right here watching you burn.”
Isn’t that CUTE!
Lil’ Nero sounds just like Benny! (giggling)
Brosephus™
November 8th, 2012
12:53 pm
Jay: I haven’t had to ban a single person yet this week, to my shock and amazement.
I can remedy that for you if you’re itching to ban someone.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 8th, 2012
12:54 pm
G. Heathen — “Dunno, but you ask Joe Biden.”
When did Joe Biden have a TV show?
getalife
November 8th, 2012
12:55 pm
nero,
Grow up son.
You lost .
Get over it.
STEVIE RAY
November 8th, 2012
12:55 pm
BRO
That was his exact platform and predictably, proved to be his undoing..however, putting something out there and actually getting it done, despite hysteria of the other side suggesting so, is silly…no shortage of marco stuff BO was going to do and didn’t even try…he is making the same promises all over again…why should anyone believe him?
Paul
November 8th, 2012
12:56 pm
Stevie Ray
“So you got one example that may or may not pan out to be true….now it’s “all over the land”? ”
It may be helpful to consider the original poster of the story, his history of… sweeping generalizations… conclusions based upon… something…..
to put Jay’s comeback in context.
Fred ™
November 8th, 2012
12:56 pm
Nero
November 8th, 2012
12:51 pm
I think more Americans need to come over to the Traitor side. It really opens your eyes.
+++++++++++++++++++
Eyes wide open? You mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwBaS6m3q5c
godless heathen
November 8th, 2012
12:56 pm
I haven’t had to ban a single person yet this week, to my shock and amazement.
I had the under.
independent thinker
November 8th, 2012
12:56 pm
Biggest takers are the cons right here in red state GAwgia.-farmers get subsidies; SBA loans; defense contracts at outrageous pricestc.
Best example was the disclosure that Romneys invested one mil in Delphi with other vulture capital investors, then the investors demanded the government bailout Delphi’s pension and healthcare obligations or they would shut down the automakers by not supplying parts and after the bailout of Delphi, the Romneys in their phony trust made tens of millions off the taxpayers. .Guess where Delphi’s plants and jobs went- China. And that lyin SOB had the nerve to accuse GM and Chrysler of using bailout money to ship jobs to China. No wonder the auto workers filed a grievance!
Yes O’ Reilly, Sean, Rush, Boorts, Coulter and the cons it is all them minorities according to your sick minds who are stealing government money-keep dreaming.You deserved the ass whooping ya’ll got.
stands for decibels
November 8th, 2012
12:56 pm
What part don’t you believe?
The “pittance”. Should you be of average health and make it to retirement age and have an actuarially average lifespan thereafter, anyway; I don’t think that guaranteed income is a pittance at all, and it’s not exactly a lead pipe cinch that a privately funded annuity would give you a similar return, with COLAs and of course survivor bennies.
(Oh, and just to be nitpicky, it’s actually 12.4% for SS, but if you want to lump in Medicare it’s 15.3, except of course for the last coupla years, but whatevs.)
BTW, I’m not bitter about Social Security. But like Midori, I’m just saying, when I draw my little check, don’t say I’m getting a freebie.
I’m with you(ze) there.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 8th, 2012
12:57 pm
S. Ray — “Joe, Ok fair point but can you provide me examples the O’Reilly has animosity toward, controls or otherwise thinks his race is superior?”
I didn’t make or advance the Racist O’Reilly argument. I simply pointed out that your *defense* of him was quite seriously wanting.
Whether he is or isn’t, the defense of ‘he had a black dude on his TV show lots of times’ is really pretty weak; don’t you agree?
Erwin's cat
November 8th, 2012
12:57 pm
Both…I forgot to reply
thanks for askin…I’m enjoying the area and looking forward to a little more central and south america travel..I truly love experiencing different cultures…
sorta ’splains why I post here often eh?
Brosephus™
November 8th, 2012
12:57 pm
EC
They’ll take real good care of you.
DebbieDoRight - Minister Of Propaganda, Gangman Style!
November 8th, 2012
12:57 pm
What’s happened with the Republicans is they are, the Republican Party, is a Mad Men party in a Modern Family America. And it just doesn’t fit anymore. — Matt Dowd
Paul
November 8th, 2012
12:57 pm
“Not your son, chief.”
Do we have our first chagrined, post-election conservative blogger returning under a new moniker?
Nero
November 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
getalife,
I didn’t lose anything. This leech country lost. Own it leeches. Watching it all burn down around your heads will be entertaining.
They BOTH suck
November 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
Bro
It is ludicrous and yet sad that people are buying into that crap.
He wouldn’t even take office until Jan. What legislation was going to be pushed through to save these jobs for people whose business owners do not have demand and or cash flow to pay them today?
It goes to my take on the “audience letting themselves down”.
Those buying it are not questioning what they were told right through Tuesday evening. They are doubling down at this moment.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
November 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
Fred, the storm seems to have ran the fish off, and they
haven’t come back yet, with the exception of reds, if you like them.
The freshwater ponds on mainland are doin well, catfish & crappie
with the nip in the air (50deg)
Crabbing is good, shrimpin not good, wind’s up
but hey the margarittas & rum runners are good and most of the tourists
are gone. Overall it don’t suck and its 5 oclock somewhere
Partisay
November 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 8th, 2012
11:32 am
“All he had to do was promise free stuff (healthcare, student loans, rubbers and whatnot) funded by undeserving ingrates (the “rich”) and it worked, easily!
RIP USA, 1776 – 2012″
Dang….student loans are free?? And I’ve been paying mine back all these years!
getalife
November 8th, 2012
12:58 pm
Not one con banned?
Come on cons, up your game.
Disappointing.
They BOTH suck
November 8th, 2012
12:59 pm
“sorta ’splains why I post here often eh?”
That was classic
Safe travels
They BOTH suck
November 8th, 2012
1:00 pm
St Simons
Good call on FL. Thought it would be close, but going to Romney.