Why 2012 election was a message election

In an election year with unemployment hovering at 8 percent and millions of Americans deeply concerned about their future, in a year with no campaign-finance laws to prevent rich conservatives from dumping as much money as they wished into the process, in a year featuring an incumbent who motivated the GOP base by his mere existence, the Republican Party lost.

And it wasn’t just the presidency that they lost. At the beginning of the year, with Democrats forced to defend 23 Senate seats while Republicans defended just 10, GOP leaders were all but certain that they would reclaim Senate control and oust Harry Reid as majority leader. It was an historic opportunity.

Instead, they lost two seats. They lost five seats in the House as well, including, at last count, that of Allen West of Florida and Joe Walsh in Illinois. Michele Bachmann barely survived in a heavily Republican district. (UPDATE: The latest numbers suggest that the GOP will lose seven seats in the House, not five.)

In other signs of a changing America, voters in Maine and Maryland approved measures legalizing gay marriage. In Washington, a measure to legalize gay marriage also appears to have passed. In Minnesota, voters rejected a measure that would ban gay marriage. In Wisconsin, voters elected the nation’s first openly gay person to the Senate. And in Colorado and Washington, voters easily approved the recreational use of marijuana.

Three additional points:

The polls were not skewed. Needing an excuse to explain why the polls were so consistently unfriendly to Republicans, Fox News and the conservative media invented one: The pollsters were conspiring with the mainstream media to defraud conservatives. More specifically, the theory went, polls were showing Democrats outnumbering Republicans by a six- or seven-point margin. There’s no way that could be true, conservatives told themselves.

In one sense, it was the perfect explanation. It appealed to the GOP’s inherent distrust of experts who tell them things they don’t want to hear, and also played to their longstanding anger at the media. Eventually, though, all such explanations get “trued up” against reality. And in reality, Democrats did end up with a six-point turnout advantage over Republicans, just as predicted.

This was not Mitt Romney’s fault. Quite the contrary. From the beginning, Romney was the only GOP candidate who was even faintly plausible as president. Would Newt Gingrich have done better? Rick Santorum? Bachmann? Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Please. The blowout would have been epic.

Yes, Romney did pivot from “severely conservative” to moderate right before the first debate, and some in his party will now try to attribute his defeat to that decision. You know the drill: “He was a RINO, and RINOs always lose.” That easy excuse ignores the fact that Romney made that pivot because his “severely conservative” persona was getting killed in the polls at the time. When he changed, the polls changed. This race was close at the end only because he ditched conservatism and embraced moderation.

But here’s where the evidence gets incontrovertible: Last night, the GOP put up a viable Senate candidate in 17 states; most of those 17 candidates ran well to the right of Romney. If conservatism was a winning message, they should have done better with voters than the moderate Romney did.

The exact opposite proved true. In 12 of those 17 states, Romney outperformed the conservative Senate candidate. In six states, Romney outperformed the GOP Senate candidate by a double-digit margin. In five states, Romney outperformed the Republican Senate candidate by 15 points or more.

And the five GOP Senate candidates who did better in their states than Romney?* Every single one ran as a moderate. Overall, voters rejected conservatism, and “moderate Mitt” deserves great credit for squeezing every vote possible out of a tough situation.

But every vote possible wasn’t enough.

The country has changed; the GOP has not.
Republicans lost badly among Latino voters, black voters, gay voters, Jewish voters and women. They once again did quite well among white voters, who comprised 72 percent of the electorate. But that’s down from 74 percent in 2008, which was down from 77 percent in 2004, which was down from 80 percent in 2000.

Does anybody see a trend in those numbers?

But other numbers are just as daunting. In exit polls yesterday, 74 percent of Republican voters said that they believe illegal immigrants should be deported instead of offered a chance at citizenship. That is clearly a core issue for the GOP base. Yet overall, just 29 percent of Americans share that opinion.

How do you convince that 74 percent of Republicans that their party has to change and change pretty dramatically if it’s to compete in the emerging America? How do you convince them that they have to break out of the lily-white political ghetto in which they’ve confined themselves?

It’s going to take leadership. It’s going to take people such as Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal and Jeb Bush and Chris Christie telling hard truths to a base that has often found ingenious ways to avoid hard truths. It’s going to take a willingness to compromise and a willingness to change and a willingness to confront the talk-radio hosts and special interest groups who see no personal benefit to such change.

Overall, the narrowness of the GOP defeat in the presidential race disguises just how significant this election really was. The ground was prepared perfectly for a major GOP victory — everything was in place — and the opposite happened. And it’s not something new. In the last six presidential cycles, the GOP candidate has won a plurality of votes just once. That was George W. Bush in 2004, riding the fumes of his post-9/11 performance.

This was a message election, in terms of both ideology and demography, and from here on out that message is going to be restated louder and louder and louder until the Republican Party finds a way to respond to it.

– Jay Bookman

*The states in question are Connecticut, Massachusetts, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico.

665 comments Add your comment

stands for decibels

November 7th, 2012
8:23 am

Not that many GOP supporters want to hear this from you, but

It’s going to take people such as Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal and Jeb Bush and Chris Christie telling hard truths to a base that has found often ingenious ways to avoid hard truths.

…lotta truth to that.

Obama

November 7th, 2012
8:24 am

Sweet revenge. I will deliver sweet revenge….

#1 Foxy Lady

November 7th, 2012
8:25 am

to all you out-of-touch deluded conservatives….

SUCK IT, LOSERS!!!!

Mick

November 7th, 2012
8:25 am

Excellent post election analysis…thanks

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 7th, 2012
8:26 am

I hope the message is received but I doubt it. We will hear the same tired claims about the economy and Obama that the people have rejected. And I hope Trump has a nice long visit with the FBI.

Jm

November 7th, 2012
8:27 am

The GOP cannot win the Hispanic vote

Once lost, always lost. It will likely end up like the black vote.

So we will have democrat presidents for the foreseeable future.

Plan accordingly.

Georgia on my mind...

November 7th, 2012
8:27 am

Excellent article!

stands for decibels

November 7th, 2012
8:28 am

Off topic:

Meanwhile, there is going to be some seriously down-and-dirty politicking during the lame duck period to hammer out a budget deal. I assume that a lot of superPAC money will be thrown at purplish Congressional districts to get House members to go one way or another.

I honestly don’t see how Obama, Reid and Pelosi can do anything but not just play along but actively manage it to get a decent piece of legislation passed that doesn’t sell out the legacies of FDR (Social Security) and LBJ (Medicare).

wowzer

November 7th, 2012
8:29 am

I only hope the republican base can accept the facts and not continue the stalemate political tactics of the last four years.

Fred ™

November 7th, 2012
8:29 am

Now thta the Republicans have failed MISERABLY in their main stated goal, to make Obama a one term President, will they actually sit down and do their jobs and fulfill their sacred obligation to this Country?

Does ANYONE hold out hope in the Republicans doing anything other than remaining traitors?

Goldie

November 7th, 2012
8:29 am

Thanks Jay — I got my coffee warmed up before reading this one and you’re brilliant as usual!

:)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 7th, 2012
8:30 am

Time to end the filibuster.

Aquagirl

November 7th, 2012
8:30 am

The GOP cannot win the Hispanic vote

Sure they can. They can stop acting racist and crazy. It’ll take time but regaining your reputation always does.

Ball’s in your court GOP.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 7th, 2012
8:30 am

“t’s going to take leadership. It’s going to take people such as Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal and Jeb Bush and Chris Christie telling hard truths to a base that has found often ingenious ways to avoid hard truths. It’s going to take a willingness to compromise and a willingness to change and a willingness to confront the talk-radio hosts and special interest groups who see no personal benefit to such change.”

Especially well said, Jay, but until more of my generation dies off, I don’t believe there will be any compromise. I just hope the GOP remembers that 2014 is just around the corner and if they don’t play ball now, there may be no game left come ‘14.

Rebar

November 7th, 2012
8:30 am

Now should be a time to come together for the good of the nation; we’ll see how many of the cons can swallow their pride and learn to compromise.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 7th, 2012
8:31 am

Message to Sheldon Adelson:

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Jm

November 7th, 2012
8:31 am

Foxy lady, keepin it classy

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November 7th, 2012
8:31 am

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Old and Angry White Republican

November 7th, 2012
8:32 am

Glenn Beck is crying again

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

November 7th, 2012
8:32 am

Jay thanks for all you do.

I cant imagine waking up this morning and having to come to work knowing that Mitt Romney would soon be President.

Gonna be a good day.

I SEE RED PEOPLE

November 7th, 2012
8:33 am

Republican pundits lamenting the fact that their candidate was not conservative enough. Tea Party II, coming soon to a theater near you.

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Scrivener

November 7th, 2012
8:33 am

The reason Obama was re-elected was, A, the storm hit, and B, the media refused to cover the bad economy accurately (can be clearly demonstrated by comparison’s to the Bush economy) and virtually no coverage of Fast and Furious or the Benghazi scandal. The scandals won’t be going away, folks, just because the election is over, and it won’t look good for Obama.

mm

November 7th, 2012
8:33 am

You cons better change your ways if you ever want to win another election. In 2014 the house will be blue,

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 7th, 2012
8:34 am

“The country has changed; the GOP has not. Republicans lost badly among Latino voters, black voters, gay voters, Jewish voters and women. They once again did quite well among white voters, who comprised 72 percent of the electorate. But that’s down from 74 percent in 2008, which was down from 77 percent in 2004, which was down from 80 percent in 2000.”

AND WOMEN. AND WOMEN. Ignore those words at your peril, GOP.

you voted against us, against our equality … hell, against our autonomy … and you’ve paid the price. You pretended that the war on women was just a figment of our imagination – it was not. we can smell BS a mile away – and we smelled it on you.

The righties’ reaction on the blog today reminds me of the guys who are shot down when they ask a girl for a date, who then say “bet she’s a lesbian.” Guys – it’s not your country that’s the problem. It’s your party. We’re just not that into extremism or in taking the country back 50 years where civil rights are concerned. Clean your house then we’ll talk.

Brad Steel

November 7th, 2012
8:34 am

It’s going to take people such as Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal and Jeb Bush and Chris Christie telling hard truths to a base that has found often ingenious ways to avoid hard truths. It’s going to take a willingness to compromise and a willingness to change and a willingness to confront the talk-radio hosts and special interest groups who see no personal benefit to such change.

yeah, right. that’s gonna happen. take away these cranky babies’ pacifiers and they will just cry louder.

no way andy of the moderate ‘pubs have the fortitude to take on the blowhards at FOX and on the AM hate frequencies.

expect more of the same form the ‘pubs and more blow-out elections….. and these losers will have to keep sucking it.

LMAO!

November 7th, 2012
8:34 am

“The reason Obama was re-elected was, A, the storm hit”

LMAO!

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 7th, 2012
8:35 am

It appealed to the GOP’s inherent distrust of experts who tell them things they don’t want to hear

Yes, the wingnuts are not going to learn a thing from this.

DannyX

November 7th, 2012
8:35 am

Right on the mark, Jay.

The Republican Party needs an intervention.

Mick

November 7th, 2012
8:35 am

jm

Actually, repubs can get the latino vote but marco rubio is not the answer. Also, please ditch karl rove, enough of him already. Saw him on fox last nite when he pulled his stunt about ohio. Turd blossom, well said W…

Jm

November 7th, 2012
8:35 am

Aquagirl, keep dreaming

GOP won’t sign on for Amnesty, democrats will insist on amnesty

Illegals will be the punching bag and democrats will win the Latino vote in large part like they did this time

When amnesty happens, 12 million new voters will swing the tide even further

It’s over for the near and intermediate future

#1 Foxy Lady

November 7th, 2012
8:36 am

Jm, keep sucking it, loser!!!!

Mike

November 7th, 2012
8:37 am

If they had not run their Teapublicans or as some say the rapepublicans in many of the races they might have won the senate. On social issues they lose every time when their soft sell gets exposed for what it really is. As for the economy, economic conservatism in practice has never worked. It sounds good but when it keeps being taken to it’s extremes and it faces reality it fails every time. Look on the bright side GOP, you no longer have to pretend to like Willard though!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 7th, 2012
8:37 am

Will someone let me know when Rush is leaving the country…. I’d like to waive goodbye to his plane at the airport and say “See ya”.

Jm… weren’t you going to Singapore?

Goldie

November 7th, 2012
8:37 am

Question: should the GOP go ahead and rename its moniker as OWP (Old White People)… whaddya think Cons???

:)

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BW

November 7th, 2012
8:38 am

Jay

Mitch McConnell has not gotten the message and he’s up for re-election in 2014 to say nothing about Boehner….this will be a fun ride over the next 90 days

Peadawg

November 7th, 2012
8:38 am

“voters in Maine and Maryland approved measures legalizing gay marriage. In Washington, a measure to legalize gay marriage may also be approved once final votes are counted. In Minnesota, voters rejected a measure that would ban gay marriage. In Wisconsin, voters elected the nation’s first openly gay person to the Senate. And in Colorado and Washington, voters easily approved the recreational use of marijuana.”

I love everything about this paragraph.

Jm

November 7th, 2012
8:38 am

Anybody know what Obama plans to achieve in the next four years other than raising taxes on the wealthy?

It’s pretty clear that’s his only open objective….

vietnam vet

November 7th, 2012
8:38 am

Excellent article, Jay. The GOP will never change as long as Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Karl Rove and Grover Norquist remain the de facto heads of the party. Hate, fear, intolerance and ignorance have been the winning formula for the party for too long. It’s in their DNA, change is not. Today they will load their guns and begin the circular firing squad.

DannyX

November 7th, 2012
8:40 am

“The reason Obama was re-elected was, A, the storm hit, and B, the media refused to cover the bad economy accurately (can be clearly demonstrated by comparison’s to the Bush economy) and virtually no coverage of Fast and Furious or the Benghazi scandal. The scandals won’t be going away, folks, just because the election is over, and it won’t look good for Obama.”

DENIAL is part of the grieving process.

Btw “Scrivener”, new name?

indigo

November 7th, 2012
8:41 am

America is changing, and will continue to do so. Since all the Republican politicians care about is getting elected and re-elected, change will be relatively easy for them.

Trying to change to extreme far-right mindset of their loyal voters, which the Party has done with such ardor,is another matter. It will take some skilled brainwashing and propaganda to pull these tools toward the center.

Watching the Party trying to dig itself out of a deep ideological hole will be something to see. The 180,s, mental gymnastics and lies needed to do this will approach some kind of record.

gm

November 7th, 2012
8:41 am

Mitt the liar lost where he worked(Mass) where he was born(Mich) hey southerner white males, dont you think they knew him better?

bottomline

November 7th, 2012
8:41 am

Bottom line …. we have a divided country. The popular vote shows that 50 million+ people wanted Obama and 50 million+ people wanted Romney. It is the job of the President to bring us together.

Mike

November 7th, 2012
8:42 am

The President and Harry Reid should now point out every day how the GOP house is obstructing, blocking Judge appointments, blocking the Jobs bill, etc.. make the people see how they will continue to try and sabotage this country for their partisan extreme agenda. Then in 2014 things may really get interesting for the GOP out in the wilderness.

Boris

November 7th, 2012
8:42 am

I register and vote Republican. I did not vote for Romney this year. I believe that both major parties need to move in a libertarian direction if they want to grasp the sense of most Americans: stop trying to control our every decision and give us the freedom to choose what we want, whether it is to use marijuana, own a gun, marry an alien, or worship God on Thursday night instead of Sunday morning.

the cat

November 7th, 2012
8:42 am

I would not be surprised if Rush, boortz, hannity et al voted for Obama so they would have something to b itch about.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 7th, 2012
8:43 am

Peadawg – 8:38 – haha … no kidding!

“Will someone let me know when Rush is leaving the country…. I’d like to waive goodbye to his plane at the airport and say “See ya”.”

I’m willing to help him pack. Of course, I may leave the bottle of shampoo open, but that would be an accident. really.

Rabbit

November 7th, 2012
8:44 am

The “base” of the Republican party needs to be recentered. It left us and swung into angry, teasoaked talk radio land. There is a willing right-middle for the taking, but the alienating social issues are muddling the long standing fiscal message of the party. This doesn’t mean the Ryan/Rand fiscal message, but a message that Richard Lugar and an unchained Mitt Romney can and should help the upcoming leaders sell back to the faithful.
It will be a painful and probably nasty break to leave the far right, but the coalition has failed.

Mr. Snarky

November 7th, 2012
8:44 am

The poll were skewed for the dems, but only the polling yesterday, and it was the only one that counted.

gm

November 7th, 2012
8:44 am

This election shows you can tell a bunch of southerners conservatives white male anything, these gomers continue to live in the 20th century, while the world and nation moved on.

I SEE RED PEOPLE

November 7th, 2012
8:44 am

Obama didn’t take 60% of the national vote or 350 electoral votes because:
a) he snoozed through the first debate and b) Hannity nailed him good many, many times.

See how ridiculous it sounds in reverse?

East Lake Ira

November 7th, 2012
8:45 am

Largest re-election margin since Reagan.

Elections have consequenses.

Let the House take the heat for taxes going up and sequestration.

Keep your feet on the gas Dems!

Fat Old Angry White Republican

November 7th, 2012
8:45 am

Boris:

I married an alien, ain’t all that great actually.

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Morrus

November 7th, 2012
8:46 am

“lily white political ghetto”, my new favorite way to describe them. Cheers! Jay for another gracious rendering of the facts.

Goldie

November 7th, 2012
8:46 am

Mike @ 8:42 — great assessment… it will be very interesting to see who rises to the top of the GOP slate in 2 more years!

:)

Jm

November 7th, 2012
8:46 am

Anyone know obama’s plans for the next four years other than raising the taxes in the rich?

Good times

Jeff

November 7th, 2012
8:46 am

Reading the CONservative media, I see them making excuses. Boortz whinning about the parasites, National Review stating Ohio was going to be tough, yet all before Rush, Beck and the other rightwing nuts were talking about how the dems votes would be depressed. Rush stating how he could not imaging how Obama could get anywhere near the vote turnout from 2008.
Cognitive dissonance is rampant on the right. It is always someone elses fault, nothing of what they are doing or saying. They are incapable of self reflection, and are doomed to failure for a generation unless something changes.

Aquagirl

November 7th, 2012
8:46 am

UK inner @ 8:34….Word E. McWord.

I’m sure we’ve not heard the last of men screaming ‘I’ll tell you when there’s a war on wimmen, b!tch!”

cookie eater

November 7th, 2012
8:46 am

Wait, wait….NOW the msm is saying the polls were actually correct the whole time?

That means that Ron Paul who was beating Obama in a one on one situation in many polls was actually electable. Sucks to be part of the GOP right now.

oh well congrats to mr. obama, would rather have 4 more yrs of him than 8 more years of his white clone.

Goldie

November 7th, 2012
8:47 am

Snarky @ 8:44 — :)

TaxPayer

November 7th, 2012
8:48 am

Republicans should not waste de feet on de nile.

Mick

November 7th, 2012
8:48 am

“One of the many reasons that the conservative movement is in such deep trouble is that those who were wrong here will suffer no consequences and those who knew the truth will receive no benefit.” john zeigler

Boris

November 7th, 2012
8:48 am

Fat Old Angry White American – But at least you still had the choice.

Edward

November 7th, 2012
8:48 am

I wonder if Delta will need to add some planes to accommodate all the people like Jm leaving the country? Maybe some specially chartered flights, so the rest of us can go wave them off.

morgan

November 7th, 2012
8:48 am

I disagree Jay, the Republican party needs to continue doing exactly what they are doing. This at least goes a long way to insuring that we maintain at least a two party system. They need to continue to let the ultra conservatives retain control and make their decision of how they present themselves to the voting public. Heck, I am hoping the will give even more control to the tea party people, ultra right wing religious and the rich white guys. The last thing we need is to have them cloak themselves in sheep’s clothing and rhetoric that people want to hear and perhaps actually believe. We need them to continue to show their true colors of being of the fascist totalitarian’s that want the the top few percent to control everything in the country based on what they think and believe. I am hoping they take this as a warning they need to strengthen the ties to those type of groups, not weaken them!

Jm

November 7th, 2012
8:49 am

Apparently the liberals on here don’t know obama’s plans.

Figures

Tax the rich! Best platform ever, if you’re a socialist country.

Rabbit

November 7th, 2012
8:49 am

…and Danny.
The claim that the media didn’t cover the issues correctly is weak. Fox is the most watched of all the news channels. If you browse the internet for news articles at any time over the last four years there are articles bemoaning the slow return from the abyss. Of course, rational thinkers understand that some injuries take longer to heal than others.

Jerome Horwitz

November 7th, 2012
8:49 am

Great Day to be an American. Watched the returns with an old friend plus some new ones – a majority who were women. They were quite adamant about the Republicans stomping on the rights of women and it was key in their thinking.

And where is our friend Bill Orvis White. We need his analysis of last night.

Bill

November 7th, 2012
8:50 am

“How do you convince that 74 percent of Republicans that their party has to change and change pretty dramatically if it’s to compete in the emerging America? How do you convince them that they have to break out of the lily-white political ghetto in which they’ve confined themselves?”

Stated more succinctly, how do you open the minds of closed-minded people?

michael

November 7th, 2012
8:50 am

Amen Jay, and Viet Vet you are right on. And Scrivener, just keep watching Fox news for your scandals while the rest of us move on and your stuck in time.

Robert

November 7th, 2012
8:50 am

“Would Newt Gingrich have done better? Rick Santorum? Bachmann? Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Please. The blowout would have been epic.”

Ummm… What about Ron Paul?

Nat Silver

November 7th, 2012
8:51 am

How was my polling results?

Butch Cassidy (I)

November 7th, 2012
8:52 am

Hey, where’s RB, Kayaker, USMC, Mighty Righty, Scout, Donovan , etc… to tell us how awesome Romney is and how “Obozo” doesn’t stand a chance?

H.E. Pennypacker

November 7th, 2012
8:52 am

I will be writing a letter to my two Georgia GOP Senators and my GOP member of Congress and implore them to work with the President for the betterment of our great country. I invite others to join me.

real john

November 7th, 2012
8:52 am

The night is darkest before the dawn…

After Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Schummer destroy the American economy, the GOP will reign for the following decade. Unfortunately it may be to late by the time this train wreck is finished.

Italy and Greece are perfect examples of spineless leaders who over promise things that eventually have to be paid for. The situation in those countries is getting worse and reports are they are taking it out on immigrants because they are sucking up financial resources. Its only going to get worse there. The US is about 4-5 years behind.

Just look at Clayton County, they just reelected a man that has 34 pending felonies against him…Of course this county also voted heavily for Obama. That tells you a lot about the Obama electorate.

JBD

November 7th, 2012
8:53 am

I am a young educated professional and am economically conservative but socially liberal more in line with liberterian beliefs than republican. I dont have any stats to back myself up but I believe there is a large portion of my generation that are the same way. I choose to vote republican because I rate the economic issues more prevalent than the social ones but how many people like me vote democrate because they have a different priority of issues. Im pro choice, pro marijuana if that floats your boat, and I believe immigration reform is needed but the immigration history of America should be embraced. The republicans choose to be the personal freedoms party for the economy but abandon it with social issues that affect many peoples vote.

smike

November 7th, 2012
8:53 am

Would Newt Gingrich have done better? Rick Santorum? Bachmann? Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Please.

*COUGH*Huntsman*COUGH*

Goldie

November 7th, 2012
8:53 am

“Fat Old Angry White American”

Boris — so that’s FOAWA instead of GOP… a little long but very descriptive! :)

JBD

November 7th, 2012
8:53 am

I am a young educated professional and am economically conservative but socially liberal more in line with liberterian beliefs than republican. I dont have any stats to back myself up but I believe there is a large portion of my generation that are the same way. I choose to vote republican because I rate the economic issues more prevalent than the social ones but how many people like me vote democrate because they have a different priority of issues. Im pro choice, pro marijuana if that floats your boat, and I believe immigration reform is needed but the immigration history of America should be embraced. The republicans choose to be the personal freedoms party for the economy but abandon it with social issues that affect many peoples vote.

Mick

November 7th, 2012
8:53 am

jm

Going back to the clinton tax rate of the 90’s certainly didn’t push us into the socialist column. The sky is not falling and 4% will not bankrupt them…

rc

November 7th, 2012
8:53 am

It’s over you can spew your liberal crap as long as you like but the Republic lost and the moochers parasites and looters won.
When the masses learn they can vote themselves largess from the treasury it’s over.

I can’t deal with stupidity!

East Lake Ira

November 7th, 2012
8:53 am

jm – here you go, please read it and stop whining.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blueprint

Fred ™

November 7th, 2012
8:53 am

Jm

November 7th, 2012
8:49 am

Apparently the liberals on here don’t know obama’s plans.

Figures

Tax the rich! Best platform ever, if you’re a socialist country.
++++++++++++++++++

Poor JM is lost. his talk radio puppet masters haven’t told him what to think yet so all he can do is double down on the stupid, repeat and recycle the old bumper sticker lies……….

Jeff

November 7th, 2012
8:54 am

Did anyone see Karl Rove idiocy last night. Way funny. :D

stands for decibels

November 7th, 2012
8:54 am

#1 Foxy Lady is the Reason for the Season!

Dsign

November 7th, 2012
8:54 am

For the first time in my life I am afraid. Not of President Obama, because we will survive him. He is simply the focus. In spite of all the facts indicating that the country is in trouble and that President Obama’s policies are the central reason. In spite of the fact that most people admitted that they did not trust him to fix our problems, he was reelected. We have become a greedy mob without a brain believing the gravy train will never end.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 7th, 2012
8:54 am

Aquagirl

November 7th, 2012
8:54 am

GOP won’t sign on for Amnesty, democrats will insist on amnesty

JM, I’ve asked cons repeatedly for some SANE plan to deal with illegal immigration.

Magic deportation machines and magic impervious fences do not exist in the real world. If the GOP wants to claim some a-hole snottery as moral high ground they’re welcome to it. I don’t think deporting someone who came here fleeing the drug war and extreme poverty is a whoohoo moment of virtue. The same with deportation of a woman brought here by her parents when she was 4 years old.

Watching people who think they’re so damned righteous sink under the waves of history will be a great moment in America. Fright-wingers aren’t morally superior, they’re bitter, angry, creepy a-holes.

Good riddance.

Goldie

November 7th, 2012
8:54 am

“Great Day to be an American. ”

G’morning Jerome! :)

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 7th, 2012
8:54 am

So much for No sock-puppet Wednesday.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Butch Cassidy (I)

November 7th, 2012
8:54 am

real john – “That tells you a lot about the Obama electorate.”

Like what, that their candidate won?

Nat Silver

November 7th, 2012
8:55 am

real john

November 7th, 2012
8:52 am

and Georgia elected Nathan Deal. He resigned before charges could be brought..and look at the issues that is going on in Gwinnett County…what is your point? and Gwinnett went for Mitt Romney!

gm

November 7th, 2012
8:55 am

Obama wins Florida, hey right wing nut jobs anymore ideas to suppress the vote?

Adam

November 7th, 2012
8:55 am

For the record, this would be the “I Told You So” thread. Prepare for deluge.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 7th, 2012
8:56 am

Jm, do you need us to call 9-1-1. You are trapped in a paper bag and can’t find your way out?

Jm is still searching for Obama’s plan…… the one that was posted on Obama’s website? No wonder he has not found those flights to Singapore yet.

Goldie

November 7th, 2012
8:56 am

“I will be writing a letter to my two Georgia GOP Senators and my GOP member of Congress and implore them to work with the President for the betterment of our great country. I invite others to join me.”

Woo-hoo, H.E.P. — now we’re talkin’! “)

Fred ™

November 7th, 2012
8:56 am

Butch Cassidy (I)

November 7th, 2012
8:52 am

Hey, where’s RB, Kayaker, USMC, Mighty Righty, Scout, Donovan , etc… to tell us how awesome Romney is and how “Obozo” doesn’t stand a chance?
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They are here Butch, they just lack the balls to post under their regular names.