Conservative media betrayed, failed its audience
There’s truth being told in conservative circles today, for those who are willing to hear it.
Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, for example, appears to be throwing his support behind the so-called DREAM Act, which would allow young immigrants brought here illegally as children to attend college and earn citizenship:
“In the next Congress, I am committed to working on upward mobility policies that will ensure people who work hard and play by the rules can rise above the circumstances of their birth and leave their children better off. The conservative movement should have particular appeal to people in minority and immigrant communities who are trying to make it, and Republicans need to work harder than ever to communicate our beliefs to them.”
And Conor Friedersdorf, writing in The Atlantic, asks why so many of his conservative colleagues were shocked and surprised last night, given that the outcome had been predicted for weeks by polls and expert analysis.
His conclusion: Because under the business model employed by the right-wing media at Fox News and elsewhere, it is more profitable to tell conservatives what they want to hear, not what they need to hear.
“But guess what?” he asks his fellow conservatives.
You haven’t just been misinformed about the horse race. Since the very beginning of the election cycle, conservative media has been failing you. With a few exceptions, they haven’t tried to rigorously tell you the truth, or even to bring you intellectually honest opinion. What they’ve done instead helps to explain why the right failed to triumph in a very winnable election.
Why do you keep putting up with it?
Conservatives were at a disadvantage because Romney supporters like Jennifer Rubin and Hugh Hewitt saw it as their duty to spin constantly for their favored candidate rather than being frank about his strengths and weaknesses. What conservative Washington Post readers got, when they traded in Dave Weigel for Rubin, was a lot more hackery and a lot less informed about the presidential election.
Conservatives were at an information disadvantage because so many right-leaning outlets wasted time on stories the rest of America dismissed as nonsense. WorldNetDaily brought you birtherism. Forbes brought you Kenyan anti-colonialism. National Review obsessed about an imaginary rejection of American exceptionalism, misrepresenting an Obama quote in the process, and Andy McCarthy was interviewed widely about his theory that Obama, aka the Drone Warrior in Chief, allied himself with our Islamist enemies in a “Grand Jihad” against America. Seriously?
Conservatives were at a disadvantage because their information elites pandered in the most cynical, self-defeating ways, treating would-be candidates like Sarah Palin and Herman Cain as if they were plausible presidents rather than national jokes who’d lose worse than George McGovern.
How many months were wasted on them?
How many hours of Glenn Beck conspiracy theories did Fox News broadcast to its viewers? How many hours of transparently mindless Sean Hannity content is still broadcast daily? Why don’t Americans trust Republicans on foreign policy as they once did? In part because conservatism hasn’t grappled with the foreign-policy failures of George W. Bush. A conspiracy of silence surrounds the subject. Romney could neither run on the man’s record nor repudiate it.
The most damaging Romney gaffe of the campaign, where he talked about how the 47 percent of Americans who pay no income taxes are a lost cause for Republicans? Either he was unaware that many of those people are Republican voters, or was pandering to GOP donors who are misinformed. Either way, bad information within the conservative movement was to blame.”
The piece gets stronger from there, including language I’m not allowed to publish on this blog. If you’re a conservative seriously concerned about your movement’s future, I highly recommend it. Because if you don’t get this part right, you cannot get the rest of it right.
– Jay Bookman
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Regnad Kcin
November 7th, 2012
3:44 pm
“The voters outside the confederate states are stupid. Nuff said.”
That ^^^^^^ is why you lose…
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“What have I lost that you did not?”
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Only perspective, and, perhaps, dignity…
iBS Aplenty
November 7th, 2012
3:44 pm
Mama -
Kinda like Clarence Thomas wasn’t a serious candidate for the Supreme Court…..
Own it, ‘tard.
moonbat betty
November 7th, 2012
3:44 pm
Debbie, you have a problem with 3 legged dogs?
Have you heard of the Americans with Disabilities Act?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:45 pm
“Morality” — “Hairy Weed said before the election that the Dems would not cooperate or compromise with a Repbub Prez.”
Well, then, it’s a good thing we aren’t going to HAVE a Republican President then, now isn’t it?
josef
November 7th, 2012
3:45 pm
DDR
Hey, Girlfriend…flip that boa, girl!
Travis McGee
November 7th, 2012
3:45 pm
In 2000 Gore had 500,000 more popular votes than Bush but lost in the Electoral College after the SCOTUS stopped the Florida recount.
I don’t care what you call this victory, but the fact is the American People sent a message to the oligarchs and gazillionaires that they weren’t going to buy the Oval Office to use to their own advantage.
And, I rejoice that the Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelson, Karl Rove et al saw hundreds of millions of dollars circling the toilet being flushed down the sewer. Thanks, Citizen’s United!
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:46 pm
iBS — “Kinda like Clarence Thomas wasn’t a serious candidate for the Supreme Court…..”
I made no comment about Justice Thomas. I spoke only about Mr. Cain. Mindreading FAIL.
“Own it, ‘tard.”
If all you have to offer is name-calling, I’m sure our host can oblige you by barring you from further posting here. Sound good?
Jay
November 7th, 2012
3:47 pm
And how come nobody has mentioned that absolutely always accurate election model from Colorado? You know, the one that gave Romney 350 EVs?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:48 pm
Jay — “And how come nobody has mentioned that absolutely always accurate election model from Colorado? You know, the one that gave Romney 350 EVs?”
I’ve been waiting all day for Kayaker to show up and explain that away, Jay.
josef
November 7th, 2012
3:48 pm
DDR
Elizabeth Warren/Tammy Baldwin 2016!
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
3:48 pm
You got caught in a lie. I did not predict the election. I won’t wait for your apology as you have been wrong many times but, like your savior Obama, you just won’t admit the truth. I’m as calm as the ocean with no breeze.. . little things like you don’t bother me. I don’t sweat the small things.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
3:48 pm
Jay @ 3:47
No kayaker sightings. My guess is that he has looked in today, but not ready to test the waters.
“Count in it”
josef
November 7th, 2012
3:49 pm
IMAM
It’s more in what’s NOT being said! 4-0 and the Wa-do quiet as a closet mouse…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
3:50 pm
My guess is that he has looked in today, but not ready to test the waters.
Maybe he’s hiding in the trees.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 7th, 2012
3:51 pm
KAMCHAK,
Well top of the afternoon to you my very close personal friend…I will keep encouraging you to work on that philosophy book as your logic is simply astounding…
I would have to disagree with your profound logic however…history suggests the government rarely meets cost cutting targets because….here’s the best part……it’s too politically risky…
As far as you becoming a starting quarterback, I suggest you take the Wonderlic Test to make sure your particular brilliance is the type cherished by the NFL
Let me help…here’s a site you can take the test..
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Sports/2011/0104/Are-you-smarter-than-an-NFL-quarterback-Take-the-quiz/Train-travel
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
3:51 pm
And how come nobody has mentioned that absolutely always accurate election model from Colorado? You know, the one that gave Romney 350 EVs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKm5xQyD2vE
DebbieDoRight - Plantation Liberal (In Good Standing)
November 7th, 2012
3:51 pm
Maybe not a candidate in ‘16, but a man to watch, IMO
Nice pick — but it’s time for a woman to win the casa blanca. That’s how the United states works — first black males, then white women, then a latin man, then a latin woman, then a black female.
It’s time!
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For all those who said it couldn’t/wouldn’t shouldn’t happen — this is for you:
Don’t call it a comeback
I been here for years
Rockin’ my peers
Puttin’ suckers in fear
Makin’ the tears rain down like a monsoon
Listen to the bass go boom
Mama said knock you out!! She told me to knock you out!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vimZj8HW0Kg
iBS Aplenty
November 7th, 2012
3:51 pm
Joe Hussein cryin’ to my Mama because my racist tripe arguments don’t carry water.
Your new name. Own it.
moonbat betty
November 7th, 2012
3:51 pm
Kam: “I can guarantee you that I will be the starting quarterback in the Super Bowl.”
Who knew Kam was really Matt Ryan?
Jack
November 7th, 2012
3:52 pm
The House rules. Obama’s gonna have a tough time with his welfare proposals.
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 7th, 2012
3:52 pm
I seriously can’t believe an entire day of posting has passed without a single word from K71, RB From Gwinnett, Mighty Righty, Joseph, Ben Shockley, USMC, Donovan et al. These guys live to tell us how pathetic we are nad how awesome the GOP is. I can only assume that immediately after Obama was announced the winner, they collectively boarded the first Delta flight out bound for destinations unknown.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
3:52 pm
Kamchak
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:52 pm
“Morality” — “You got caught in a lie.”
Afraid not. But go ahead and think that if it makes you feel better.
“I did not predict the election.”
You’ve been raging here about the election for well over a week. Just give it up, okay?
“I won’t wait for your apology”
That is wise on your part.
“as you have been wrong many times”
You know, based on your behavior over the last few minutes, if you can’t prove that, then you’ve ‘been caught in a lie.’ (laughing, pointing)
“but, like your savior Obama”
I’m sure I’ve told you before; we atheists have no savior/s.
“you just won’t admit the truth.”
Well of course not! I’m not receiving the Truth Transmissions from the Mothership like you are! What time does the next saucer leave? (giggling)
“I’m as calm as the ocean with no breeze.. .”
Of course. That’s why you’ve been raging for the last half-hour.
“little things like you don’t bother me. I don’t sweat the small things.”
As long as you keep replying to me, you’re just proving yourself wrong, Punkin.
josef
November 7th, 2012
3:53 pm
DDR
Nope…Warren…EEOC twofer…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 7th, 2012
3:53 pm
JAY
You won and you and all others are in attack mode..why is that? you enjoy kicking the losers when they are down? Perhaps you can materially get some of the Fox sheep to flock to your pasture..lot’s of hate being spewed…and you had such nice things to say the day before..
Jay
November 7th, 2012
3:54 pm
Josef, I figure there must be widespread if sporadic Internet outages that are preventing some of the regulars from posting. Maybe caused by sunspots?
I can’t think of another explanation.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 7th, 2012
3:55 pm
BUTCH
Be nice and give them their day to collect composure..I suggest that if things had been the other way around, things would be much worse but more interesting..:-)
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
3:56 pm
Is Jay your BIG BRO protector…….. Jay is your big gub’ment censor of name calling. “tard”? A little thing like that and you run to Jay. Personally I don’t use that word but I have been called a lot worse on here and never cried to Jay for censorship. Don’t enter the arena if you are a sissy.
moonbat betty
November 7th, 2012
3:56 pm
Krispy Kreeeeme to all his liberal homies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loIUe0iCHBE
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:56 pm
D. DoRight — “Nice pick — but it’s time for a woman to win the casa blanca. That’s how the United states works — first black males, then white women, then a latin man, then a latin woman, then a black female. It’s time!”
Fair enough. Should we not then choose a more . . . seasoned lady? One who’s been in the halls of power longer than Warren?
Pelosi and Boxer would certainly qualify, but I think they’re too polarizing. How about someone from the Midwest? Say, Claire McCaskill of Missouri or Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota? Or perhaps a Democratic Congresswoman of long standing?
Regnad Kcin
November 7th, 2012
3:56 pm
“you enjoy kicking the losers when they are down?”
Stevie, Jay’s just trying to offer helpful advice.
Lord Help Us
November 7th, 2012
3:57 pm
Hill/Bill in 2016!
martin the calvinist
November 7th, 2012
3:57 pm
I would like to say that I’m a fair minded fellow, who tries to listen to both sides, I don’t always get my news from talk radio, I don’t have cable, I don’t watch fox news.
US in UK, I’d go along with a flat tax w/ one deduction (personal deduction). who ever said I don’t understand polling, maybe I don’t…what I was trying to say it that maybe there are 7-13% more Democrats than Republicans…..I found the numbers to be skeptical in my own mind….anyway.
Steve
November 7th, 2012
3:57 pm
I love how people dismissed Nate Silver’s forecast and he was dead on, again.
Jay
November 7th, 2012
3:58 pm
The Democrats had 23 Senate seats to defend. Yet not a single Dem incumbent lost.
That’s pretty startling.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 7th, 2012
3:58 pm
JAY
Remember the “dirty bird”? You may want to take a breather as you appear to be winded…your arms are probably too tired to type…
It’s really just an election..in fact, by winning your patron savior and his flock may actually be losing..BO, due to circumstance he has never had the ability to influence has a great chance of becoming a target of blame by the next occupant…you know Bush?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:59 pm
iBS — “Joe Hussein cryin’ to my Mama because my racist tripe arguments don’t carry water.”
If you wanted to know the basis of my argument against Cain, you could man up and ask me. Clearly, you’re not good enough to take on the challenge.
And as far as calling me a racist goes, I think I have more than enough minority friends on this board to shout your bulldada accusation down.
“Your new name. Own it.”
No can do. I don’t take orders from Irritable Bowel Syndrome.
Which, by the way, is *your* new name. So own *that.*
DebbieDoRight - Plantation Liberal (In Good Standing)
November 7th, 2012
3:59 pm
hiya josef and betty!! I am DRAGGING today man!!! I stayed up until 3:00 a.m. relishing in victory (and booze); and now I’m at the jobsite TRYING to stay awake while looking at a bunch of legalese.
betty – i have nothing against 3 legged dogs. Before I was “saved” by Dudley i dated one for about 6 months
josef – the boa is safe!! Thank God! I put it in a library behind a bunch of books on Darwin’s theory of evolution — the cons will NEVER find it there!
Elizabeth Warren/Tammy Baldwin 2016!
Word!! From your mouth to God’s ear!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
4:00 pm
At least now we have irrefutable proof that Fox is not a news organization – it’s just one long infomercial that sells peace of mind.
stands for decibels
November 7th, 2012
4:00 pm
The Democrats had 23 Senate seats to defend. Yet not a single Dem incumbent lost.
I distinctly remember just a few months ago that we’d be very lucky to have a 50/50 tie with Biden coming in to break it if needed.
stands for decibels
November 7th, 2012
4:00 pm
Irritable Bowel Syndrome.
but, enough about the Grand Bargain.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
4:01 pm
josef
Based on that 4-0, are we moving away from 1850, or are we rushing in head first?
martin the calvinist
November 7th, 2012
4:01 pm
btw US in UK, I hate the mandate, that may have come from Newt and the Heritage foundation, but I see that as forced individualism, the gov’t making you be independent….I’m kinda against that because I don’t believe it’s gov’ts role to dictate behaviour whether economic or moral…unless it harms someone else….
josef
November 7th, 2012
4:02 pm
(IM)MORALITY
“Don’t enter the arena if you are a sissy.”
This sissy brought some and’s ready for yores..brang it on, Butch, bring it on!
DDR
I may need to borrow the boa…
Reality
November 7th, 2012
4:03 pm
Democrats increased control of the Senate.
The House members were basically re-elected.
The President is a Democrat and won the electorial college vote by almost 33% and won the popular vote.
Why in the world would republicans think that they can push their agenda? Oh yeah – cause they are hard-headed right wing idiots that don’t listen to the American people but rather to their most wealthy contributors (corporations and individuals).
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
4:03 pm
You replied to me 1st ….. with your lie. You said I predicted the election for Romney. Either you got mixed me up with someone else, which would not be the 1st or 2nd time, or you just made that up.. Sure I voted for Romney because Obama has been a failure with the economy. As Clint Eastwood said when an employee fails it’s time to make a change. You rehired the failure. Totally lacking in common sense to me unless you are just a PARTY LOYALIST.
Lizzie's mom
November 7th, 2012
4:03 pm
If the GOP only moderates their message, but not their far-right convictions about the economy, women’s health issues and pay equality, gay marriage, social safety nets, healthcare for all, taxes, etc., we will end up with them back in control in the future, having lied about their intentions for governing.
moonbat betty
November 7th, 2012
4:03 pm
Let’s have a rumble down at the Frosty Q!!!!
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
4:03 pm
Morality — “Is Jay your BIG BRO protector…….. Jay is your big gub’ment censor of name calling.”
Our host doesn’t care for name-calling. If that’s the kind of posting experience you want, this is the wrong place for it.
“tard”? A little thing like that and you run to Jay.”
No running involved, as he’s clearly looking in this afternoon. If the name-calling gets out of hand, I think he’ll act.
“Personally I don’t use that word but I have been called a lot worse on here and never cried to Jay for censorship.”
Just so you know, “censorship” comes from the government. Jay and the AJC are free to squelch any comment or commentor here without running afoul of that. If you want to post whatever you please, you can always start your own message board and run it however you like.
“Don’t enter the arena if you are a sissy.”
Don’t expect to be taken seriously if all you have to offer is name-calling.
oldguy
November 7th, 2012
4:03 pm
No jay,
You misread my statement yesterday, I said I would leave if I could, but I am too poor and old to relocate. I am sending what resources I have that are portable overseas and getting as much of my family as I can out of the country. (my younger daughter just applied for Canadian citizenship; her husband is already Canadian). I, personally, am working to make myself as invisible as possible to the government, lets just say stealth.
Stock exchange down 312 points now. How are your investments doing
BTW, If this election was such a mandate for Obama to rule by decree why did the same electorate return a Republican majority of 40+ members to the House?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 7th, 2012
4:04 pm
STEVE
I certainly have much more respect for his model for reasons you may not consider. His scorecard in 2008 was made easy because most of the states had BO ahead outside the margin of error..this time they were predominantly inside so that’s pretty awesome..
In my circles this guy rocks..and his performance has definitely resulted in a much more favorable opinion than his limited work before hand…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
4:04 pm
“Morality” — “You replied to me”
Yawn.
If you’re so calm, prove it and pipe down.
Regnad Kcin
November 7th, 2012
4:06 pm
“If the GOP only moderates their message, but not their far-right convictions about the economy, women’s health issues and pay equality, gay marriage, social safety nets, healthcare for all, taxes, etc., we will end up with them back in control in the future, having lied about their intentions for governing.”
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Romney tried that the last couple weeks – nobody on either side fell for it.
Iconoclast
November 7th, 2012
4:06 pm
Perhaps the MSM “liberal bias” stems from a greater, daily exposure to political truths, whereas Joe-the-Plumber is consigned to the biased rhetoric of the Heritage Foundation delivered through the heresay of self-annointed pundits on Faux News and the minions of wind-bags with syndicated radio talk-shows.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
4:07 pm
Oldguy — “BTW, If this election was such a mandate for Obama to rule by decree why did the same electorate return a Republican majority of 40+ members to the House?”
It was a “mandate” for Obama the same way it was a “mandate” for Bush in 2004. Obama won more electoral votes and a greater percentage of the popular vote.
So if Bush had a “mandate” in 2004, Obama has one today. QED.
josef
November 7th, 2012
4:07 pm
BROSEPHUS
In a more staid mood, I’m not sure if we’re not plunging in head first…
As for my dream ticket for 2016…
I strongly suspect Baldwin and Warren will have plenty of seasoning by then…as much as Barack had, anyway.
josef
November 7th, 2012
4:10 pm
Is there a G-d in heaven? How could there NOT be with Tammy Baldwin coming in from Ryanland…oh, the irony of it all…
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 7th, 2012
4:10 pm
oldguy – “getting as much of my family as I can out of the country. (my younger daughter just applied for Canadian citizenship; her husband is already Canadian)”
Why do people who complain about socialism always want to go to Canada? It’s like me saying ” I hate snow, therefore I’m moving to the North Pole”. Weird.
DebbieDoRight - Plantation Liberal (In Good Standing)
November 7th, 2012
4:10 pm
How about someone from the Midwest? Say, Claire McCaskill of Missouri or Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota? Or perhaps a Democratic Congresswoman of long standing?
Nope. They’ve been around too long. They’re not polarizing, however, they have a RECORD. One thing I’ve learned from Obama’s rise in power is that the less the cons have on you, the harder it is for them.
With Obama what was the worst they said about his Senate stay? That he voted “Present” a few times? Nothing more. They couldn’t find any illicit funds, (trust me they looked), or any ties to Big Business. They couldn’t find any “outside woman”, (and i bet you $1 they looked really HARD for any hints of an affair; because he was living in D.C. while Michelle and the kids were back in Chicago); so like Biden said, “He’s really clean”.
Warren is the one for me — she’s smart AND she handled herself incredibly well against that race baiting hack she was running against.
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
4:10 pm
Jay, Jay , Jay! Somebody called me a name.. help me help me help me Jay. I got my feelings hurt Jay and you need to call in the Thought Police. You can lie about me if wish but I am definitely in the minority on here as I am not a PARTY LOYALIST and I can defend myself and will respond. You came after me 1st – I told the truth and you could not back up your lie. Embarrassing isn’t it?
TaxPayer
November 7th, 2012
4:13 pm
Anything interesting happening today?
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 7th, 2012
4:14 pm
Wow, in the four hours since Jay posted this, we’ve only hit 5 pages. I guess this is what it must be like over at Kyles blog. I never realized how much space filler the regulars provided.
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
4:14 pm
Mandate spandate! “W” didn’t have no mandate and neither does Obama. But it doesn’t matter. Obama and the Dems are PARTY LOYALISTS – they could care less about a mandate.
Regnad Kcin
November 7th, 2012
4:15 pm
There, there, morality, it’ll be all right. Just relax and get some rest – the world will look better in the morning…
Shhhh……
josef
November 7th, 2012
4:15 pm
DDR
“She spoke well for her people.”
–Unmentionable
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
4:15 pm
D. DoRight — “Nope. They’ve been around too long. They’re not polarizing, however, they have a RECORD. One thing I’ve learned from Obama’s rise in power is that the less the cons have on you, the harder it is for them.”
I’m not sure I agree with your plan, but we’ve got some time for you to convince me.
FWIW, I think McCaskill and Klobuchar have served one term each in the Senate. So in 2016, they’d have 10 years in office. I don’t think that’s too much, but YMMV.
getalife
November 7th, 2012
4:16 pm
morality is not taking this second thumpin well.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
4:16 pm
“Morality” — “Jay, Jay , Jay! Somebody called me a name.. help me help me help me Jay. I got my feelings hurt Jay and you need to call in the Thought Police. You can lie about me if wish but I am definitely in the minority on here as I am not a PARTY LOYALIST and I can defend myself and will respond. You came after me 1st – I told the truth and you could not back up your lie. Embarrassing isn’t it?”
Check it, folks. This is how you get ‘em to go into meltdown.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
4:16 pm
josef @ 4:10
The WI Senators and Congressmen should have a dinner and name it “In & Out of the Closet”.
Ryan and Baldwin will be the speakers……..
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
4:16 pm
Yes it would be real NICE to eliminate the name calling punkin!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
4:17 pm
I never realized how much space filler the regulars provided.
Not just the regulars, it’s also the attendant sock-puppets.
Lord Help Us
November 7th, 2012
4:17 pm
Jay, how about a bait and switch to bring in some of your unwashed regulars…
Gen up a post about Climate Change and then, once they arrive change the subject back to this.
They fall for crap like this…
DebbieDoRight - Plantation Liberal (In Good Standing)
November 7th, 2012
4:18 pm
josef — you go girl!! Kick his/her closet butt!! You can always tell the ones that have a crush on you, they’re the ones that are always trying to call you out!! Tell him you’re taken and he’s gonna have to go shopping somewhere else!
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Oh yeah – cause they are hard-headed right wing idiots that don’t listen to the American people but rather to their most wealthy contributors (corporations and individuals).
They NEVER learn. That’s their problem. they had a chance to change their ways when they nominated Michael Steele as party chair. Steele was talking about inclusiveness and bringing more brown to town. They got rid of him and voted that mama’s boy Reice Preibus in.
Cons hate history, so they are DOOMED to repeat it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 7th, 2012
4:19 pm
Morality is claiming someone lied…. The same Morality that claims that FDR was not ELECTED to 4 terms?
Don't Forget - Obama is a two term president.
November 7th, 2012
4:19 pm
DDR – I’m about as big a fan of E. Warren as there is but I doubt she aspires to be president. She’s a tireless advocate for fairness and the middle class but I’ve never heard her say anything about foreign policy or other issues that a president has to deal with. Maybe that will change but that remains to be seen. Hillary, on the other hand, is probably the best qualified candidate in either party.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
4:19 pm
This is way, way off topic. However, I know there are many fans of football here, and I have just gotta share this video. This is what a pure running back looks like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSISzEfmjBA
Staib doesn’t hesitate when asked about the hitting. He says Sam loves to tackle and even goes after Tank whenever she gets the chance. He’s not worried. Brent says only once did Sam get shaken up from a hit. She came out of the game, rested for a few plays, then returned to score a touchdown.
“Some kids, right before the contact, they stop,” Sam told her father. “I don’t. I just hit ‘em.”
“That’s not something I taught her, “Brent says.
Let the recruiting wars begin!!!!
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
4:21 pm
“Melt down” – dream on punkin! At least I didn’t attack you with a LIE – you did though.
DwayneL
November 7th, 2012
4:21 pm
this fools re-election is no reason for celebration. America as we know it is gone and may never return.
TaxPayer
November 7th, 2012
4:21 pm
I was tempted to ask some of the mourners I saw out and about today about the traditional length of time a Republican spends greiving their election loss and also why they were not dressed in black.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
4:22 pm
“Morality” — “Yes it would be real NICE to eliminate the name calling punkin!”
Snicker!
moonbat betty
November 7th, 2012
4:22 pm
Huge LOL.
Isn’t that so sweet?!
The lib regulars miss the con posters.
“THEY LIKE ME, THEY REALLY LIKE ME!”
oldguy
November 7th, 2012
4:22 pm
Butch,
She moved to Canada because that is where she wanted to go (and her husband is Canadian) but in reality Canada is a way less regulated society than the US and she gets to keep much more of her earned income and inherited resources than she did here. . Her older sister is visiting Santiago Chile Christmas and I would be thrilled if she and her husband decided to relocate there; a beautiful place and country.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
4:22 pm
There are two versions of that video I posted. The YouTube link has rap music. The yahoo article has different music for those who prefer rock.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
4:23 pm
SHEETS!
DownInAlbany
November 7th, 2012
4:23 pm
Let’s be honest here, there is no integrity in the media, period. There is no such thing as an unbiased media outlet (present company included). Conservative, moderate, liberal, you name it, they ALL spin it to there advantage. There are few, if any, exceptions. Just saying…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
4:24 pm
KUTGF — “Morality is claiming someone lied…. The same Morality that claims that FDR was not ELECTED to 4 terms?”
DINGDINGDINGDINGDING! We have a winnah!
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
4:24 pm
oldguy
Does she realize that she will have true socialized healthcare in Canada? Also, she will still have to file taxes as a US Citizen living abroad.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
4:25 pm
“Morality” — ““Melt down” – dream on punkin! At least I didn’t attack you with a LIE – you did though.”
I *LOVE* how calm you are, mon petit chou. (giggle)
williebkind
November 7th, 2012
4:25 pm
I guess its time to put all my money in overseas accounts before January. There is always a way to keep libruls out of my paycheck. I have learned that facts and truth dont matter. The next four years the conservatives should compromise and raise taxes spend and demand laws be passed for the most vile disgusting behavior you can think of. And talk to everyone how you will give them free stuff. The northern and western voters want free stuff. The conservatives must start running on this platform…vote for me and get a car!
moonbat betty
November 7th, 2012
4:25 pm
Bro 4:19, that is awesome!
Has Saban invited her for an official visit yet?
williebkind
November 7th, 2012
4:27 pm
We will have to keep an eye on those rich democrats and make sure they pay their fair share plus giving to lots charity.
St Simons
November 7th, 2012
4:27 pm
josef, I think E Warren owes Mr Brown pants one of the great Cherokee
traditions, a “War Dance of Remembrance”
DebbieDoRight - Plantation Liberal (In Good Standing)
November 7th, 2012
4:27 pm
FWIW, I think McCaskill and Klobuchar have served one term each in the Senate. So in 2016, they’d have 10 years in office. I don’t think that’s too much, but YMMV.
Good choices — I’m just partial to Warren. I like ‘em smart and tough.
josef –
Allright, I’m sneaking outta here. I have accomplished NOTHING all day and I’m basically just taking up space and wasting some really good stale regurgitated air.
Later Gators!!
Jay
November 7th, 2012
4:28 pm
That’s astounding, bro.
williebkind
November 7th, 2012
4:29 pm
“There are two versions of that video I posted”
Another video? Oh well no one will see it.
Travis McGee
November 7th, 2012
4:30 pm
@oldguy: So they didn’t have critical thinking back when you were in school?
oldguy
November 7th, 2012
4:32 pm
Hi Josef,
Good to see you are still kicking!
p.s. Taxpayer. Actually I was dressed in black with a black hat (with Russian Copic badges on it). But that was not for the Republicans (who, btw. took over all major state offices in my home state NC yesterday) but for the country for which I went to VietNam and no longer exists.
DebbieDoRight - Plantation Liberal (In Good Standing)
November 7th, 2012
4:32 pm
One more quick one:
Hillary, on the other hand, is probably the best qualified candidate in either party.
I think Hillary is looking to retire. She’s been hinting about it recently…………
nobodyyouknow
November 7th, 2012
4:34 pm
Yes conservative media did not do its job, But the Liberal media did not do its job for the American people. Completely ignoring the administrations bloopers and mistakes. And not following up on the disaster in Libya and that whole mess. Where our people were murdered. Since O,bama was re-elected I will do what I can to support his presidentcy, and not say hateful things. I just wish you people in the media would be HONEST and FAIR on whoever is in the Whitehouse If its a stupid decision call it a stupid decision.
oldguy
November 7th, 2012
4:39 pm
Brosephus,
not if she renounces her citizenship, she already had applied for Canadian citizenship and has a passport. She traveled as a Canadian on a Canadian passport this summer to the Olympic games in London. My family is Welch even though we have been in the US since 1793.