Conservative media betrayed, failed its audience
There’s truth being told in conservative circles today, for those who are willing to hear it.
Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, for example, appears to be throwing his support behind the so-called DREAM Act, which would allow young immigrants brought here illegally as children to attend college and earn citizenship:
“In the next Congress, I am committed to working on upward mobility policies that will ensure people who work hard and play by the rules can rise above the circumstances of their birth and leave their children better off. The conservative movement should have particular appeal to people in minority and immigrant communities who are trying to make it, and Republicans need to work harder than ever to communicate our beliefs to them.”
And Conor Friedersdorf, writing in The Atlantic, asks why so many of his conservative colleagues were shocked and surprised last night, given that the outcome had been predicted for weeks by polls and expert analysis.
His conclusion: Because under the business model employed by the right-wing media at Fox News and elsewhere, it is more profitable to tell conservatives what they want to hear, not what they need to hear.
“But guess what?” he asks his fellow conservatives.
You haven’t just been misinformed about the horse race. Since the very beginning of the election cycle, conservative media has been failing you. With a few exceptions, they haven’t tried to rigorously tell you the truth, or even to bring you intellectually honest opinion. What they’ve done instead helps to explain why the right failed to triumph in a very winnable election.
Why do you keep putting up with it?
Conservatives were at a disadvantage because Romney supporters like Jennifer Rubin and Hugh Hewitt saw it as their duty to spin constantly for their favored candidate rather than being frank about his strengths and weaknesses. What conservative Washington Post readers got, when they traded in Dave Weigel for Rubin, was a lot more hackery and a lot less informed about the presidential election.
Conservatives were at an information disadvantage because so many right-leaning outlets wasted time on stories the rest of America dismissed as nonsense. WorldNetDaily brought you birtherism. Forbes brought you Kenyan anti-colonialism. National Review obsessed about an imaginary rejection of American exceptionalism, misrepresenting an Obama quote in the process, and Andy McCarthy was interviewed widely about his theory that Obama, aka the Drone Warrior in Chief, allied himself with our Islamist enemies in a “Grand Jihad” against America. Seriously?
Conservatives were at a disadvantage because their information elites pandered in the most cynical, self-defeating ways, treating would-be candidates like Sarah Palin and Herman Cain as if they were plausible presidents rather than national jokes who’d lose worse than George McGovern.
How many months were wasted on them?
How many hours of Glenn Beck conspiracy theories did Fox News broadcast to its viewers? How many hours of transparently mindless Sean Hannity content is still broadcast daily? Why don’t Americans trust Republicans on foreign policy as they once did? In part because conservatism hasn’t grappled with the foreign-policy failures of George W. Bush. A conspiracy of silence surrounds the subject. Romney could neither run on the man’s record nor repudiate it.
The most damaging Romney gaffe of the campaign, where he talked about how the 47 percent of Americans who pay no income taxes are a lost cause for Republicans? Either he was unaware that many of those people are Republican voters, or was pandering to GOP donors who are misinformed. Either way, bad information within the conservative movement was to blame.”
The piece gets stronger from there, including language I’m not allowed to publish on this blog. If you’re a conservative seriously concerned about your movement’s future, I highly recommend it. Because if you don’t get this part right, you cannot get the rest of it right.
– Jay Bookman
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Grasshopper
November 7th, 2012
2:54 pm
“A complete rejection of the Limbaugh/Coulter/Hannity/Beck fueled hatemongering.”
Did you mean to say a 50% rejection?
ad
November 7th, 2012
2:55 pm
It’s telling that the GOP’ers complain about the “mainstream media,” when Rupert Murdoch owns Fox News, Fox Financial News, The Wall Street Journal and The New York Post. At least they admit that the stories, as reported by these sources, are not “mainstream” but out in right field. GOP – eject the tinfoil hatted among your ranks and provide some real alternatives, or just go away.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
2:55 pm
Once a month, whether he needs one or not.
Four times a year, tops.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
2:56 pm
Alex — “@ Joe 2:45, agree with a lot you have said, if conservatives do not learn, the libs will overplay their hand, it is the nature of the political beast”
It does seem that both sides overplay their hands eventually. Sooner or later, the Dems will do it, and their supporters — myself included — must remain on guard for that possibility.
St Simons
November 7th, 2012
2:57 pm
20 house seats in 2014, that’ll put a fork in em
Pelosi will stay to re-take the gavel
bad century to be a con
gogators
November 7th, 2012
2:57 pm
over 49 % voted for Romney yes they do teach math
Just Curious
November 7th, 2012
2:57 pm
You folks are giving the American electorate way too much credit for weighing the issues like you folks do. Some people do have a political philosophy and follow the campaign positions carefully, but a very large percentage of people (be interested to know how big) treat the election like American Idol. They vote for who feels right or which candidate they connect with on a personal level. It has very little to do with philosophies of socialism or capitalism or even social issues. Social media exacerbates this phenomenon, by the way. So it’s interesting to debate why Obama won, but in the end it’s because voters liked him better. It’s the same reason Bush won twice, Clinton won twice, and GH Bush won only once (over Dukakis mind you). So whoever said Bush was the last Republican president, I don’t buy that. There will be another one when one comes along who can connect to people.
For America’s sake, I hope Obama is successful and I will pray that he is. (BTW, I’m a social and fiscal conservative…just for truth in advertising purposes). Peace.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
2:58 pm
the cat
We can only hope that the Graham family will keep Mormons of their cult list.
Could be a close call since they only took them off after meeting with Romney and not actually meeting with the top leaders of the LDS.
Mick
November 7th, 2012
2:58 pm
Obama ain’t got no G.D. Plan to save America”……
As if romney did?
getalife
November 7th, 2012
2:58 pm
Reid owned mitt.
Our President gave us two gop thumpins.
Thank you President Obama.
Lets govern .
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
2:59 pm
I am wrong? You better hope so. No one is perfect but I was right on the dot.com bubble and right on the real estate bubble and will soon prove to be right on the gub’ment financially, propped up, health care bubble. And as for the finale (really) we have the most massive bubble of all time – the bond market bubble created and destroyed by this huge Fed debt and the nearing fiscal cliff. You better start praying ’cause Obama and the Fed gub’ment ain’t going to save you. Be careful what you ask for…. you got it and in a short while you will be blaming some one else but who is at fault? The voters that put these PARTY LOYALISTS in office.
Peter
November 7th, 2012
3:00 pm
HEY Mike and Thulsa Doom You both are from Georgia I am thinking correct ? Have you been following the local companies ?
Check out Georgia Gulf Corporation TODAY! GGC…. up almost 6% on the day…….. Individual; stocks are doing fine.
Steve-USA
November 7th, 2012
3:01 pm
Maybe tis is the wrong blog but I missed Jay’s earlier articles. So…
The people have voted in a fair election and that should be given great respect.
Congratulations to President Obama and his supporters.
A heard a lot of talk on the radio today that is was the messenger (Romney) and not the message. Republican’s may want to look at the vote breakdown by demographics and revisit that attitude.
Peace.
Splavistic
November 7th, 2012
3:01 pm
6 Reasons Why GOP do not appeal to a majority of modern Americans:
1. Focus on outdated social issues (gay marriage, etc.)
2. General disdain for immigrants and minorities (just read some of the posts on this site!)
3. Overt religiosity (not everybody is an Evangelical Christian)
4. Allegiance to the very rich over the middle/working classes (just coz they’re rich, doesn’t make them good)
5. Lack of climate concern (our Earth is dying, people! Wake up on this issue!)
6. General Bellicosity (pro-guns, pro-war, pro-death penalty)
America isn’t going to go backwards. It has been trending toward a TRUE melting pot for decades, and is getting more liberal to boot. GOP needs to change or fade away. Fiscal conservatism and smaller government is a good thing across all society, but the socially conservative baggage that comes along with this economic policy is ugly and distasteful.
DannyX
November 7th, 2012
3:01 pm
Republican super pac fund contributors…”I gave millions to fund Republican candidates, but only got a stupid Romney/Ryan bumper sticker.”
Steve-USA
November 7th, 2012
3:02 pm
Damn..sorry for the typo’s. Rats.
Oscar
November 7th, 2012
3:02 pm
But their ratings are so high, and profits so good. And they are in the entertainment business. Not the news business. There is money to be made.
Who gets paid well when they only tell the boring truth?
Regnad Kcin
November 7th, 2012
3:02 pm
The Plan:
“The Republican Party “simply has to learn” to appear more inclusive to minorities, particularly Hispanics, Mr. Gingrich says.”
That’s what needs to happen – they need to change what they appear to be…
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 7th, 2012
3:03 pm
Morality – “I AM SAD for the FUTURE FOR THE YOUTH of the USA that you have sold down the river to your PARTY LOYALISTS.”
What, the future youth have no bootstraps?
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
3:03 pm
GLASS HALF FULL
we are only half-way until the end of our LOST DECADE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0hjSaYCRnA&feature=related
*NSFW
That decade ended in 2010, bro. You’re way late in announcing that. There was 0% new job growth between 2000 and 2010.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
3:03 pm
Damn..sorry for the typo’s. Rats.
I getter what you’re saying.
clem
November 7th, 2012
3:04 pm
wall st down as they now realize they cannot legitimately rape middle america
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:05 pm
“Morality” — “I am wrong? You better hope so. No one is perfect but I was right on the dot.com bubble and right on the real estate bubble and will soon prove to be right on the gub’ment financially, propped up, health care bubble.”
You can claim that all you want, but the only EVIDENCE we have of your predictions here is that you’re really crappy at calling elections. So maybe you should just calm the eff down.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:06 pm
B. Cassidy — “What, the future youth have no bootstraps?”
Evolution, don’t ya know.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
3:08 pm
wall st down as they now realize they cannot legitimately rape middle america
The Dow opened at 8279.63 on 1/20/09.
The Dow is now trading at 12960.
Geez….
DebbieDoRight - Plantation Liberal (In Good Standing)
November 7th, 2012
3:08 pm
Reading some of the comments on this blog it seems that a lot of people have not learned their lessons on prejudging and isolating.
Michael Steele tried to make the GOP more inclusive when he took over in 2008 — they kicked him out.
Inclusion doesn’t work for them…………………………..
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
3:08 pm
Dream on… 2014? Many times I have seen the doom of this party or that party predicted. By 2014 you will be very unhappy with Obama and his PARTY LOYALISTS. I am looking for a 3rd party to arise – one that puts the economic future of the U.S. ahead of party loyalty. For you see – I did not vote for Obama or “W” – I am a common sense fiscal conservative that wants to limit the size and reach of the Fed gub’ment and reduce the size of the Fed debt… neither party is the answer at this time. They are both LOYAL to their party 1st and U.S. last. Gub’ment “stimulus” is just pay offs and kick backs to 0party LOYALISTS. $6,000,000,000,000 + in 4 years and what did we get for it? A flat economy at best and a looming Fed debt fiscal cliff disaster.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:11 pm
Senator-Elect Angus King (I-ME) expected to announce which party he will caucus with next week:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/11/07/maines-angus-king-to-choose-party-allegiance-next-week/
If that happens, then King and Bernie Sanders (I-VT), the Senate’s two Independent members (starting in January) would both caucus with the Democrats, giving the Ds a notional 55-45 advantage over the Rs.
godless heathen
November 7th, 2012
3:11 pm
If only the South voted for Romney, what are all those other red states doing on the map I saw?
Good to see Victor Hill ride Obama’s coat tails in Clayton County.
I’d like to see a chart of % of high school drop-outs vs. % of Obama voters.
Living With Open Eyes
November 7th, 2012
3:12 pm
People who vote republican are happy witrh the status quo. This election showed that most people are NOT happy with the way things are now and want things to CHANGE. When the republicans learn we must care about each other and not have to compete for basic human necesssities such as a living wage and really affordable (or free) healthcare, then they might begin to represent the interest of the majority of Americans.
stands for decibels
November 7th, 2012
3:14 pm
The Dow opened at 8279.63 on 1/20/09.
The Dow is now trading at 12960.
Geez….
they’re just wallowing in Drudgey goodness. Take a look at Mattie’s homepage–heck, capture a screenshot, it is the very essence of whiny-assed-teaty-babydom, that should be preserved for the ages.
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
3:15 pm
Show me where I called the election – you just assumed ONCE AGAIN. I knew that a Romney win would be an upset. I expected Obama to win – unfortunately – I was right.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:15 pm
D. DoRight — “Michael Steele tried to make the GOP more inclusive when he took over in 2008 — they kicked him out.”
FWIW, I was still working in Washington when J. C. Watts announced that he was retiring for Congress. I haven’t bothered to look it up, but there was a piece in the Washington Post around that time in which he indicated that he felt that the GOP was treating him like a token and taking him for granted — that they’d call him up when they needed a nonwhite face at a photo op, but when he or his district needed something, the party’s power brokers didn’t respond to him.
I gathered from the article that the last straw for Watts came when GOP leaders decided to withdraw their support for some defense project having to do with his district and he only found out about it by reading the paper.
I think you’re right; inclusion doesn’t come easy for them.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
3:16 pm
Morality?
Did you vote yes or no for Amendment 1 here in GA?
Jefferson
November 7th, 2012
3:16 pm
With the GOP there’s a sucker born every minute.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:16 pm
“Morality” — “Show me where I called the election – you just assumed ONCE AGAIN.”‘
And you’re really bad at listening, too. I said “calm the eff down;” perhaps you should consider that.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
3:18 pm
they’re just wallowing in Drudgey goodness.
Yeah, I saw that earlier.
Own it.
As if they will give the same amount of coverage for a 2% rise tomorrow.
Steve
November 7th, 2012
3:18 pm
Living With Open Eyes – this election showed that one group of American are whiney crybabies who want a white man in the White House at all costs. They will never be happy. They live in fear of everyone and everything, and are afraid of minorities.
Jefferson
November 7th, 2012
3:18 pm
The GOP needs to know the next election there will be less people that look like you, since you don’t belive Darwin, you will die.
Goldie
November 7th, 2012
3:19 pm
oh boy, I’m going to get the popcorn poppin’ now!
LUCIFER
November 7th, 2012
3:19 pm
Ann Coulter: “Either we run Chris Christie or Romney will be our nominee and we’ll lose.” Now there’s one smart woman!
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
3:21 pm
When nearly 50 % of eligible voters are receiving some sort of check in the mail from the gub’ment and Obama’s handlers create an atmosphere of fear of them being cut off in a flat economy with little chance of getting a job if Obama is not elected – they are afraid to not vote Obama. That was Obama’s big advantage in this election. Ironically, they just voted for the least chance of them getting of the gub’ment assistance rolls and on the job roll. Just what Obama was counting on. Wake up America – you just got flim flamed.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
3:22 pm
When nearly 50 % of eligible voters are receiving some sort of check in the mail from the gub’ment…
There’s your sign.
Jefferson
November 7th, 2012
3:23 pm
Your brain flim flammed you.
Lord Help Us
November 7th, 2012
3:23 pm
‘When nearly 50 % of eligible voters are receiving some sort of check in the mail from the gub’ment…’
Digit idgit..he is talking about you…funny.
getalife
November 7th, 2012
3:24 pm
We are awake con.
You lost.
Try to deal with it better.
Recon 0311 2533
November 7th, 2012
3:25 pm
You lefty’s are cooing over Obama’s reelection win but he was only one point over Romney in the national electorate vote and that’s down 6 points from his win in 08. Obama hardly won a mandate and the country remains divided. Essentially we are where we’ve been with a divided congress. The politicians from both parties pay lip service to the looming deficit crises but that’s a serious issue our government needs to face. It’s not going away and the can can’t get kicked much further down the road. Obama inherited a mess and one that he now owns. He may end up wishing that he lost reelection.
oldguy
November 7th, 2012
3:25 pm
Ah,
I am so touched. Jay is concerned about “our” media failing us. Save your pity Jay. Now lets see you plan for getting your massive tax hikes through the House. p.s. the House is responsible for all budget/spending bills. You think you have seen gridlock before,
Obama’s definition of bypartisanship is to give him dictatorial powers and then go away.
p.s. I see the business community is voting on the election now on the Stock exchange; down 2+% today alone.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
3:26 pm
Morality? @ 3:21
If that’s true, how do you explain Georgia’s residents favoring Romney but voting for more regulating Big Government in the educational system by an even larger margin?
Also, where do you get the nearly 50% figure receiving some sort of check in the mail from the government? Does that include military pay, military retirement pay, government pensions, social security, fed employee pay, military contractor pay, defense contracts, income tax refunds, or are you just embellishing welfare numbers to try to make a partisaned point?
Williebkind
November 7th, 2012
3:27 pm
The voters outside the confederate states are stupid. Nuff said.
Goldie
November 7th, 2012
3:27 pm
Great link to The Atlantic, Jay — thank you!
Steve
November 7th, 2012
3:28 pm
Recon, I will make another prediction that will come true (I’m good with predictions).
1. the economy is going to turn around
2. This will lead to Democratic gains in the House and the 2016 Election of another Dem President
Lord Help Us
November 7th, 2012
3:28 pm
‘The voters outside the confederate states are stupid.’
Not according to test scores…but, hey, those are skewed…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:29 pm
Recon — “You lefty’s are cooing over Obama’s reelection win but he was only one point over Romney in the national electorate vote and that’s down 6 points from his win in 08.”
Obama beat Romney by a bigger margin than Bush had over Kerry in 2004. And Bush spoke of his “mandate” then.
So enjoy the Obama “mandate,” pal.
Billybob
November 7th, 2012
3:30 pm
they are shocked b/c they are so sad to realize that racial politics, class warfare, and big gov’t socialism is what a majority of the voters who are completely entitlement frenzied want…….stuff is more important that our country……these people will get exactly what they want over the next 4 years will the radical leftist who will veer further left and they will eventually will realize their mistakes when his policies bankrupt this union…….unless after 4 more years of economic illiteracy in the white house they are tricked into believing that it is still bush’s fault…..low information voters indeed…..congrats libs, the fundamental transformation is underway……to a big gov’t centered socialist state……hope this is actually what you thought you were voting for, b/c if not, you will regret it
Steve
November 7th, 2012
3:30 pm
The voters INSIDE the Confederate States still think its 1955.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:30 pm
Steve — “This will lead to Democratic gains in the House and the 2016 Election of another Dem President”
Any early bets on candidates?
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
3:30 pm
Charles Krauthammer defines a mandate after Bush’s win in 2004. (Keep in mind that he says Obama doesn’t have one after last night)
I think it was a huge issue that the president was weak in his first term. He had less of the power and strength and capital, as he speaks of, than he does today. And now that he’s been elected with a large majority, or a significant majority, and with a mandate, I think part of that mandate is to get the right judges, by his likes.”
Bush won with 286 electoral votes to John Kerry’s 252, and with a 2.4 percent margin in the popular vote. Obama currently has 303 electoral votes to Romney’s 206, and he’s likely to add to that the 29 votes from Florida, which hasn’t been called yet, for a grand total of 332. It’s to early to tell on the popular vote, but it will be between 2 and 3 percent.
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/the_rights_new_line_obama_has_no_mandate/
moonbat betty
November 7th, 2012
3:30 pm
Here are your signs:
“Living With Open Eyes – this election showed that one group of American are whiney crybabies who want a white man in the White House at all costs. They will never be happy. They live in fear of everyone and everything, and are afraid of minorities.”
“The GOP needs to know the next election there will be less people that look like you, since you don’t belive Darwin, you will die.”
Libs all jacked up on the Haterade.
Wow, what a party! Enjoy.
lol
Williebkind
November 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
Lord Help Us;
dont confuse ignorant with stupid. You can educate the ignorant but stupid is as stupid does.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
Billybob — “…..congrats libs, the fundamental transformation is underway……to a big gov’t centered socialist state……hope this is actually what you thought you were voting for, b/c if not, you will regret it”
Rock.
Under.
Crawl.
josef
November 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
A great day to be an American! Thank you for restoring my faith…
DEL
Hey, Wa-do, care to repost that one you d*mn near wore out about gay marriage having been voted down everytime it was put on the ballot? How ’bout that Lesbian senator from gasp, Wisconscin? And the Indian Princess in Massachusetts…
But, it’s all right, You can come out into the fresh air now…
Jefferson
November 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
Betty is full.
Mike
November 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
just wait till you see how “affordable” this health care mess is folks….we need single payer NOW.
This will be an absolute debacle.
Regnad Kcin
November 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
“The voters outside the confederate states are stupid. Nuff said.”
That ^^^^^^ is why you lose…
iBS Aplenty
November 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
DebbieDoRight -
Totally disagree. The Republican Party put up Herman Cain as a SERIOUS candidate to represent the Party. I’ll repeat that since I’ve heard that racist tripe about: a) Southerners, b) Whites, c)Republicans, et al you put out as truth so often. Herman Cain was a SERIOUS candidate for the Republican Party nomination. If he had won the Republican nomination, and that was clearly possible, I GUARANTEE you he would have carried the South, Mid-west and all other typcially Red states. Even poor, alone Indiana. I can equally GUARANTEE you Herman Cain would not have carried California, New York or any of the other BLUE states.
In the VAST MAJORITY of the Republican Party, it does not matter about race among many, many, many Southern whites. What matters is policy – what matters is political philosophy. If Barry O is lily-white, he does not carry the South. Own it…
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
You failed ONCE AGAIN to answer my question….. show me where I predicted the election. You accused me of something I did not do. If you knew what I know you wouldn’t be so calm. I love this country and I am not selling it out for the Dems or the Repubs like Obama did. Obama is a PARTY LOYALIST 1st. He is not loyal to the economic future of the USA.
Steve
November 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
Senator Reid:
“I do” have plans to change the Senate rules, he added. “I have said so publicly and I continue to feel that way … I think the rules have been abused, and we are going to work to change them. We will not do away with the filibuster, but we will make the senate a more meaningful place. We are going to make it so we can get things done.”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 7th, 2012
3:32 pm
Living With Open Eyes
November 7th, 2012
3:12 pm
A couple of comments per your 3:12 commentary..First, there is and will be no discernable Hope and Change…nothing BO has done is responsible for a better unemployment rate which last month actually went up to the odd cheers of Left. Second, all people that voted for BO, particularly the non-whites, are remotely better off with all in unemployment around 15% and African American unemployment about the same..consistent with typical doubling of posted rate but don’t confuse some of the folks on this forum being better off with the subject ones..
You have reason to be happy as result of the scare you endured..your guy won..The GOP still sucks but suggesting that all of them are insensitive, completely self serving rich folks doesn’t really compare to reality..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 7th, 2012
3:33 pm
Now now Joe…you know there was never a President named Bush, right?
DebbieDoRight - Plantation Liberal (In Good Standing)
November 7th, 2012
3:33 pm
Any early bets on candidates?
Ellizabeth Warren
Peter
November 7th, 2012
3:33 pm
Williebkind The voters outside the confederate states are stupid. Nuff said.
Did your education down in the south, help you to articulate in such a meaningful manner ?
With all that education.please explain this fact …… Thank you !
Obama Wins 8 of 10 Wealthiest Counties in US
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-wins-8-10-wealthiest-154837437.html
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
3:34 pm
The voters outside the confederate states are stupid. Nuff said.
*This williebkind fact nugget has been authenticated by the authorities at http://www.unskewedtestscores.com
Williebkind
November 7th, 2012
3:34 pm
Regnad Kcin
What have I lost that you did not?
crankshaft
November 7th, 2012
3:35 pm
Jay,
This is right on!
Birtherism, Kenyan anti-colonialism, grand jihad against America, food stamp president, apologist! Really? I’m suprised they use the weak on communism card.
I bet the look on Rep. Joe Wilson’s face last night was priceless.
Williebkind
November 7th, 2012
3:35 pm
Brosephus™
We know why those scores are low and you do to. So dont try that with me.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
3:35 pm
Obama inherited a mess
Hey, Con, quit blaming Bush!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
3:36 pm
Billybob
October 29th, 2012
8:10 pm
[...] …..8 days until your ideology is out of power and buried by hussein’s own words for years to come……enjoy lib
Enjoy?
Thank you, I think I shall.
Jefferson
November 7th, 2012
3:36 pm
12 more years.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:36 pm
iBS Aplenty — “Herman Cain was a SERIOUS candidate for the Republican Party nomination.”
No, he wasn’t.
Steve
November 7th, 2012
3:36 pm
I loved how Fox News commentators looked stunned and speechless.
Williebkind
November 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
Yep Obama sure did inherit a mess!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
Cons need to run Christie cause he may get them some blue northeast states – NJ, NY, etc.
Lord Help Us
November 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
‘We know why those scores are low and you do to. So dont try that with me.’
Well then explain, please…
Ol' Timer
November 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
And, the ultimate denial will be when the conservatives conclude that the reason they lost was because Romney wasn’t conservative enough.
Republicans were repudiated because they allowed the Tea Party to take them to the right of Atilla the Hun causing many life-long Republicans, like my wife who had voted Republican since 1964, to bail on the party.
So Right They Ain’t Right. . . .
Alex
November 7th, 2012
3:37 pm
@ Steve:I’m good with predictions: #1 I hope your right , as for cause of
…..#2, Doubt it, as Harry Reed is even worse of a leader than Pelosi and he will overplay his hand and as #1 occurs, the country will Look for continued prosperity and begin to indulge itself and start another bubble….THAT is the cycle that countries go thru since the days of the dutch……
@debbie.., you think we might have standards, well thank you and I’ll have a snack cake, please.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
3:39 pm
In the VAST MAJORITY of the Republican Party, it does not matter about race among many, many, many Southern whites. What matters is policy – what matters is political philosophy. If Barry O is lily-white, he does not carry the South. Own it…
Isn’t that the gist of Jay’s topic? The VAST MAJORITY of the Republican Party appears to reside within an echo chamber and feels that most of America thinks as they do when, in reality, national elections have shown otherwise. The left has it’s own echo chamber members as well, but their soapbox pales in comparison when compared to the size of the right’s soapbox.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:39 pm
“Morality” — “You failed ONCE AGAIN to answer my question….. show me where I predicted the election.”
I didn’t fail. I’m just not taking orders from you.
“You accused me of something I did not do.”
If talking bullspit is so upsetting to you, then you should pipe down.
“If you knew what I know you wouldn’t be so calm.”
Either spill it or take a hike.
“I love this country”
I think you’re dangerously unbalanced and I don’t think you have any valuable super-SEEKRIT knowledge at all.
“and I am not selling it out for the Dems or the Repubs like Obama did. Obama is a PARTY LOYALIST 1st. He is not loyal to the economic future of the USA.”
And the cow jumped over the moon. Have another Xanax and calm the eff down.
Jm
November 7th, 2012
3:39 pm
The republican slate of candidates in 2016 won’t matter
But I think some good people will run
I’m not sure Chris Christie is one of them though
DebbieDoRight - Plantation Liberal (In Good Standing)
November 7th, 2012
3:39 pm
If he had won the Republican nomination, and that was clearly possible
HA! You’re probably right. Judging from your party’s past candidates, you guys would’ve voted for a 3 legged dog if it could repeat the pledge of allegiance, wear a flag pin, and say “Damn Obama!!”" while drinking a beer.
Goldie
November 7th, 2012
3:39 pm
“Stock exchange; down 2+% today alone.”
Oldguy– And tell us again how far down the market went back in 2007… you know during that little blip that occurred to our entire economy after 7 years of Bush policies???
Thank you.
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
3:40 pm
Mandate? Obama and the Dems could care less about a mandate. They are PARTY LOYALISTS not voter LOYALISTS. There will be no change ……. Hairy Weed said before the election that the Dems would not cooperate or compromise with a Repbub Prez. That is no surprise. Grid lock will continue as we near the fiscal cliff.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
3:40 pm
We know why those scores are low and you do to. So dont try that with me.
Why not explain it to us? Post some tangible proof if you dare.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 7th, 2012
3:40 pm
MIKE
Spot on about absurd and predictably crap ACA…worst scenario was for government to jump in bed with insurers and large providers…What a formula? As I’ve mentioned, the insurer advised Pelosi that implementation of Pelosi-Care would drive the price of current insured family by $15-20k per year…that’s on top of current premium…she threatened exception to anti-trust so they went away..
I can guarantee you that the “efficiency savings” projected by squeezing doctors and the like will not materialize as they will further reduce an already shrinking supply of docs..
At least with single payer (which will have it’s own problems….like, say…a trajectory of trillions of unfunded (like Medicare and SS…$70 trillion), they don’t share blankets with in order to allow scummy campaign cash from changing hands..
Jay
November 7th, 2012
3:41 pm
What do YOU care anyway, Oldguy? Your patriotism is so strong that you’ve already announced that you’re cutting ties with this country and leaving as soon as possible.
Quite the sense of commitment you’ve got there.
stands for decibels
November 7th, 2012
3:42 pm
And Bush spoke of his “mandate” then.
Why yes, he did. Let’s not forget the infamous “I’ve got political capital, and I’m going to spend it”, uttered just prior to his swan-dive into a pile of bricks (a.k.a. the Social Security Piratization Tour.)
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:42 pm
D. DoRight — “Ellizabeth Warren”
I’m thinking Mark Warner of Virginia. Former popular governor, current popular Senator, self-made millionaire.
Maybe not a candidate in ‘16, but a man to watch, IMO.
Steve
November 7th, 2012
3:43 pm
Hey guys – Robme lost. You are going to have to stop your whining and realize that you live in the greatest country in the world. Go out and do something for someone else instead of whining about how bad your own lives are (when they really aren’t). Grow up and stop being such spoiled babies.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
3:43 pm
I can guarantee you that the “efficiency savings”…
I can guarantee you that I will be the starting quarterback in the Super Bowl.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
3:43 pm
Steve — “I loved how Fox News commentators looked stunned and speechless.”
I liked the part where Romney thought he could actually win.